I wrote an earlier article: L. Ron Hubbard on Cancer
It is hard to fathom that this subject does not get more attention. It is a well-known fact in scientology that the answer to any condition or disease is to get a PTS handling and auditing to solve the problem. Unfortunately, because of this, many scientologists only resort to doctors when it is too late.
In order to stave off claims of practicing medicine without a license, Hubbard penned a few policies for PR purposes that say “we are not treating or healing diseases or illnesses,” but those few statements are understood to be for the “wog world.” The rest of what Hubbard said about this remains unchanged.
Here is a collection of quotes — not everything he ever said on the subject, but certainly enough to demonstrate that he sought to sell Dianetics and Scientology with promises that it would cure for cancer. All you need do is turn over your money and miracles of “the tech” would take it from there.
In Dianetics (May 1950):
Arthritis, dermatitis, allergies, asthma, some coronary difficulties, eye trouble, bursitis, ulcers, sinusitis, etc. form a very small section of the psycho-somatic catalogue. Bizarre aches and pains in various portions of the body are generally psycho-somatic. Migraine headaches are psycho-somatic and, with the others, are uniformly cured by dianetic therapy. (And the word cured is used in its fullest sense.)
The common cold comes about, usually, from an engram which suggests it and which is confirmed by actual mucus present in another engram. A number of germ diseases are predisposed and perpetuated by engrams. Tuberculosis is one.
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At the present time dianetic research is scheduled to include cancer and diabetes. There are a number of reasons to suppose that these may be engramic in cause, particularly malignant cancer. This is remarked so that attention may be given to the possibility; no tests of any kind have been made on cancer or diabetic patients, and the thought is purely theory and is not to be taken as any kind of an avowal about a cancer cure. Those diseases which were catalogued above, however, have been thoroughly tested and have uniformly yielded to dianetic therapy.
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The mechanisms involved vary slightly. All can be headed under “physical derangement caused by reduced body fluid flow.”
Class 1 (b) of psycho-somatic ills, magnification of fluid flow, contains such things as high blood pressure, diarrhea, sinusitis, priapism (overactivity of the male sex glands), or any other physical condition resulting from a superabundance of fluid.
Class 2 (a) can cause such things as a withered arm, a foreshortened nose, underdeveloped genital organs or any other underdevelopment of a gland having to do with size (which cross-classes this with 1 [a]), hairlessness (which also like the rest can be part of the gene pattern and therefore inherent), and in short reduction in size of any part of the body.
Class 2 (b) causes such things as oversized hands, a lengthened nose, oversized ears, enlarged organs and other common physical malformations. (Cancer might possibly come under this heading as overhealing.)
April 7, 1972
I think California has laws that nobody can cure cancer. And they’ve just disobeyed that law in England because a doctor up there, who is a Dianetic Auditor, has just cured somebody of totally proven cancer. Has taken him over to the medical association and a big conference and so on, and displayed him complete with the X-rays and so forth. So, gee it’s a good thing he didn’t do that in California. We had an auditor, in 1950s, who was actually arrested for the fact of — proven conclusively, because he’d audited somebody and they had gotten well and it was against the law to cure that disease. He got off, there wasn’t anything happened to him at all, somebody was just making a push on it locally. Pretty crazy, huh? Proved it conclusively. Against the law to heal it and he’d done it.
Lecture: EVOLUTION OF MAN ACCORDING TO THE FACSIMILE, Part II, 26 November 1951
Now, I would not feel any such security or certainty with sinus. Although that’s fairly easy to resolve in Dianetics, I just say you don’t get a patterned package. I mean it’s not the same road to process. Cancer, by the way, there was some discussion last night, I talked with Don. Some possibility of cancer may lie along that line. The individual in cancer you know, is probably, probably in conception or mitosis, as engrams. The one he’s in depends on the kind of cancer he’s got. Embryonic cancer is conception, no, mitosis, pardon me. And malignant cancer is conception, merely because the fluids of the body at that time of generation are such-and-so and such-and-so, and they get into restimulation, then the embryonic cells can start swelling madly, or you start getting mitosis all over the place. Well, fascinating business. You see, you’ve noticed the birth wax on people’s hands, occasionally when they’re stuck in birth. I can tell a person who’s stuck in birth, snap, like that. The amount of wax on his hands.
Well similarly, cancer introduces certain fluids into the system. At the moment of conception there is a certain generation of nutritional growth balances, catalysts, growth catalysts. And at mitosis you have another set of them to produce another effect, so that in either one of these cases you will get a type of cellular mal-or misgrowth. The whole body then starts to produce these catalysts, and some germ cell left around starts to go wild. That at least is a theory behind cancer. Cancer is of little moment to it. There aren’t anywhere near the cancer patients in the United States as there are some others. I say that it’s of little moment us, because this is not a big goal. A lot of good people go by the boards because of cancer. But this is not a major point, and all I’m doing is bringing in the fact it’s not a major answer. All I’m doing is bringing in the fact that cancer may lie along this 1.5 band, and it would be interesting for you as auditors to see whether or not that holds true. I know arthritis does.
Lecture: STRUCTURE/ FUNCTION: SELECTIVE VARIATION OF, 11 December 1952
You’re gonna bust somebody’s reality to glory with this sort of thing. You can already bust their.. if you just took one of these processes here, you could still bust their reality.
“Everybody knows that after a certain age, such and so couldn’t possibly happen and the body couldn’t heal about this and that.” My God! We’ve turned off cancer and diabetes and leukemia and.. and so on. The.. actually auditors have hauled them off of death beds now for two and a half years and braced them up and put a couple of spikes through their hair to hold them up on the wall until a better process came along. But they are still alive!
Actually Dianetics and Scientology have probably saved several thousand lives – I don’t know. I would say so because I kept.. I started keeping a case history on.. a long time ago, and it got too numerous and I couldn’t keep it. Guys would just keep writing in. I wish I had it now, the.. the.. just what letters I had on the subject, and so forth, were once in existence. And they’re not now.
Lecture: Rehabilitating Control of Memory, 3 December 1951
The whole point is why? I understand that there is an $18 billion research program going on at this present time which is going to investigate the enzymes in tobacco so as to stop cancer of the lungs. It is wonderful what people will spend money for. If you were sure that was the cause and you had $18 billion to spend, you wouldn’t be spending it on investigating the enzymes; you would just say, “Well, that’s probably the cause; let’s just stop everybody from smoking.” For $18 billion you could probably clear everybody in the United States of smoking without much trouble. Of course, it would disrupt commerce and the United States Treasury Department wouldn’t like you.
It is highly doubtful if these enzymes have any effect whatsoever upon cancer.
We have worked on cancer a bit in Dianetics. We haven’t specialized on it to any degree, but evidently cancer folds up rather rapidly. It is linked with a couple of very peculiar engrams clear down at the bottom of a bank. Evidently when you knock these things out (just at a guess: we haven’t enough cases to really establish it), the fellow doesn’t have them anymore; it goes away.
Lecture: THOUGHT AND PRECLEARS, 5 March 1952
That’s right. And that’s the way you can get glasses off. People are very interested in getting their glasses off by saying – if you put out a big rumor and said, “Glasses inevitably, 100 percent and all the time are the cause of cataracts. And anybody who wears glasses eventually gets cataracts. And the rubbing of these things on either side of the nose produces cancer. Now, you’ve noticed those little red spots on this pinch, so forth here. That produces cancer because of the enzymes of cigarette smoke that gets under them,” or something. And you would have everybody taking their glasses off, right now! (laughter)
Lecture: THE SCALE OF HAVINGNESS, 29 November 1954
Now, some may say he was just “imparting” his research, and that this is not “current” scientology thinking. But every scientologist knows this is not true: everything ever written or spoken by L. Ron Hubbard is true — this was published in 1990 as “fact” to Solo NOTs auditors. And that in itself is a rather remarkable thing, as it is NOT what Hubbard decreed in his NED for OTs writings (information which is confidential — only those who have studied NOTs are supposed to be aware of this) where he states cancer is a manifestation of Body Thetans (BTs).
Here are a couple of short excerpts about the NED for OTs Rundown steps to be followed on everyone:
The auditor now has the Pre-OT look at the body and in particular any somatic area or area of chronic somatics. [somatic means physical condition in scientology]
Phenomena You are Likely to Encounter on this step:
* BTs/clusters who are being broken legs, misformed arms, cancer, damaged brains, or other non-optimum body parts or conditions.
Cognitions or EPs Encountered on this step:
* Awareness that anything perceived as mass or somatic in the body is not the body, but comes from BTs/clusters.
To be more precise, about what most people concerned, now understand about Hubbard and Scientology:
It was his Life’s Endeavour or ‘Magnus Opus,’ to dig up small pieces of truth, and wrap them in lies, in order to create followers that would prevent THEMSELVES from finding out about his true nature and intentions.
Promising and claiming the opposite, Scientology as ‘The Science of Finding Out The Truth’ (in order to have any success at all), in reality the work of Hubbard was, how to confuse and PREVENT people from understanding – FROM discovering the essential pieces of truth (of what ACTUALLY happened, and when actually, with what actual intention, by whom ACTUALLY). This might be hard to swallow, in face of the many tools included in Scientology, that can be used to find out, that can be used in particular to find out about L. Ron Hubbard himself and his companions.
This thus necessitated the intelligent embedding of a large amount of confusion or “suffocation.”
In such a way then, to spread this “suffocation” around the world, and also then, to provide for himself, (for his own ‘ego’ some might say), a “spiritual and social cage” in which he could convince himself, and be convinced, not to have to look at his own true nature and actual intentions, but, to “admire” himself and to be “admired” – thereby providing such “cages” also to strengthen, protect and support other malignant minds like himself.
This required on his part, considerable ingenuity of “infecting” some pieces of spiritual knowledge that would then still provide – to the spiritually uneducated or spiritually deeply oppressed, or quite on the other side, to the wicked like himself – some improvements and insights.
HOW “the suffocation” took place, is not much described and analyzed, other than simply stating the RESULTS of the suffocation.
Calling it a “Prison of Belief” hardly analyzes the condition itself.
And to top it, unearthing “the suffocation,” is fiercely opposed by some – as it requires deeply to dive into the hurtful unpleasantness that was inflicted on all of us, ultimately by the incomprehensibly sick soul of L. Ron Hubbard himself.
with best possible wishes,
Koos
Good comment. My sentiments completely regarding Hubbard.
This is one subject I have been wanting to be addressed more publicly- the death of Kelly Preston. I do wonder if she would still be alive if they’d taken up wog treatment in the early stages.
How do you know they didn’t take up “wog” treatment in the early stages?
I’d been in scientology for two decades when, in 1999, I got cancer. I had known that my body needed medical attention, yet I kept putting it off, only for the condition to worsen.
At the time, I had been working a short time at Management Success, a scientology front group. I had worked at various such groups. None of them had, to the best of my knowledge, health insurance (if such a plan had existed, I never bought into it). Suddenly, MS announced that they would be getting such coverage, and I signed up lickety-split. I became, most likely, their first employee to see a primary care physician under the plan. During that first appointment, my doctor just couldn’t understand why I had waited so long.
The cancer, Stage 3 Testicular, had already spread to the abdomen. The treatment plan included radiation (I still have the tattoo marks on my stomach), yet the hospital’s Cancer Board suggested chemotherapy instead.
I got only slightly nauseous during treatment, something I grew to detest with a passion. I even gained fifty pounds. During treatment, I’d share the room with other patients. I became friends with one: Annie, who had stomach cancer, and it saddened me when I learned that she had not survived.
After my treatment ended, I asked my medical oncologist: “How much time did I have if I had waited any longer?” He thought about it long and hard, and replied: “Your condition would have become irreversible if you had waited 3 more months.”
So, the question is: just how much of an influence did my association with scientology have on how I handled (or didn’t handle) my medical condition? I’m sure it played a large part. By the time I had begun cancer treatment, I had done the Hubbard Dianetics Auditor Course.
I had known or read about people who had gone the route of “alternative treatments,” and some hadn’t survived. When I received the diagnosis of cancer, I didn’t run to my nearest org for advice or guidance. I decided, instead, to place my trust in science, and to follow my doctor’s orders implicitly.
I’ve been cancer-free for 22 years.
I have my only tattoo too Fred G. Haseney, and fortunately my stage 2 will still be gone. Now waiting for biopsy results for another possible type of this ugly disease, but ever hopeful and will follow through with the advise of a real doctor.
I’m so happy that you are still the type of Clear that means something!
Peggy L,
A message to any and all under-the-radar Scientologists who are reading this:
Real communication, such as the one between Peggy L and I, only happen (or so it would seem) outside the realms of Scientology.
Peggy L, I admire you for your strength (and tattoo). You and I trust real doctors (and may the biopsy results be negative).
Good for you Fred. It shows you were able to think for yourself even though you were in the cult. And you saved yourself by going with Science. I for one am glad you’re here and kicking and providing the beauty and other things that you do for all to see and partake of. Long life Fred!
I had a somewhat similar thing. I had been in Scn for decades when in around 2007 or 08 we found a heart problem and the handle was to get an artificial heart valve put in. The doctor says it is probably hereditary since my dad’s side of family all had heart problems and early death related to it.
I put my faith in science too at that time. But a friend who was drinking the KA big time, worked for some Scn medical guru who was either a chiro or nutritionist or something. She called me and told me I had to get to him cuz he would handle the heart naturally. I said no, it is a life or death thing and is too late for nutrition or muscle testing or chiro or natural pills. She yelled at the top of her lungs to go to her doctor instead of getting the surgery. She acted like the surgery was the worst thing in the world. I ended the conversation and never talked to her again. But this kind of dogmatic thinking was common amongst the Scientologists.
Cindy,
Thank you for your compliments and support.
Did you ever receive that artificial heart valve?
To have a KA-guzzling friend yell at you at the top of her lungs about what treatment you should have sounds like the last thing you needed. I’m glad you stood your ground and didn’t fall for her “big sell.” It sounds as if she might have gotten a big fat bonus/commission if you had walked through that SCN medical guru’s front door.
Maybe so. She is so stupidly a sheeple kool aid drinker. It was a smart move for me to cut ties with her. Yes I got the artificial heart valve and it helped a lot and has allowed me to live. After I had the artificial heart valve put in and was recovering, the cardiologist / surgeon said to me, well when you can climb up a flight of stairs without too much trouble, then you can have sex. So I came back to the follow up visit a month later and said, “I have a bone to pick with you, Dr.” “Really?” he said. “Yes,” I said, “You promised me I could have sex when I could walk up a flight of stairs, and I did and there was no man waiting for me at the top!”
Promises, promises, promises!
I’m happy to hear that you’re getting along just fine after getting that artificial heart valve.
Ha ha ha. Thanks!
Oh my, this brings back memories of reading that stuff years ago. I was somewhat confused then but am horrified now at the dangerous mindset that goes along with believing that Scientology/Dianetics cures not only cancer but anything of a serious medical nature. It does nothing of the sort.
Very sad and bewildering personal circumstances recently highlights the misery that comes with Scientology. I no longer have 2 card carrying, top of the Bridge members of Scientology in the family. One died just under 2 weeks ago. His death could possibly have been avoided if it was not for the stubborn Scientology mindset.
Briefly, he was mid 70s, was not particularly well and contracted covid. Within 3 days he could barely breathe. Reluctantly, he was persuaded to go to hospital. He was in such a dire state the doctors wanted to admit him. He refused, but would accept an oxygen cylinder to take home. He lasted 4 days at home until he passed out when he tried to stand. Finally, he was admitted to hospital but his lungs were 2/3rds congested with covid induced pneumonia. They wanted to drain his lungs but unfortunately he was now past medical help but was put on a ventilator. He presented a “not to be resuscitated request” and sought permission of the C/S to drop the body (go figure??), from what I heard it was granted. After speaking with close family members, per his request he was taken off the ventilator, next morning he passed.
How can anyone think and act that way is beyond me and represents an addiction to cult induced insanity. Scientology is a dangerous institution, cause over financial destruction, social misery & death, not life.
Re: He… sought permission of the C/S to drop the body..
Dear I Yawnalot,
That is almost too much for words. To have guzzled scientology’s Kool-Aid is one thing, but to seek their permission to expire is yet another.
I am sorry for your loss; it is a loss for us all.
Thank you. He was a long term member since the 70s.
What to me, is common among Scientologists is that they have no mind of their own and automatically seek the CofS or Hubbard as their mentor for guidance in all matters. It’s an unbelievable sacrifice of intelligence and ultimately one’s life.
However, there are others in the cult, not necessarily staff, that use that mechanism to dovetail into their egregious pursuit of money and acceptance into the limelight of the cult. They add an extra twist to the dangerous nature of how that cult operates to influence their followers and groom them into being robots.
Such a devastating waste of life.
I Yawnalot,
That whole vicious Scientological cycle–from the sacrifices of intelligence to money-grubbing status seekers–is their own dwindling spiral. A dog-eat-dog existence; a vulture culture. They’re immersed in their own ruthlessness. And it all originated in the take-no-prisoner mind of L. Ron Hubbard.
What a legacy!
I yawn a lot, I am so sorry for your loss. And it sounds like it could have been prevented had he gone to the hospital earlier and done what they said. Scientology kills. And sad that he probably would have survived otherwise.
Thanks Cindy. There’s no doubt in my mind he would have had a high chance of surviving with medical care if he simply allowed himself to be admitted so the doctors could do what needs to be done. It’s not rocket science dealing with pneumonia. But knowing him, he would have gone home and done a PTS/SP handling and assist program. His wife, as devout a Scientologist as he was, is very much anti-medical doctors/hospitals. It’s devastating to imagine what she now must tell herself. She has withdrawn herself from family and doesn’t want to have anything to do with a celebration of life event planned for her late husband, but has to attend.
I’m serious when I say this, when a harsh reality does befall a devout Scientologist, they have a severe disability to contend with first, of their own making.
Nothing good comes from Scientology.
Indeed. If there were an upvote thingie I would have upvoted your comment.
That’s kind of you to say that.
What stings the most, is that these people are at the top of the Bridge. It cost them a fortune, most of their lives to get there as well as disconnecting from many family & friends along their route to nowhere. My often drunk and doped out neighbor up the street has more common sense than these couple of 8s combined. Sheesh…
I hear you, buddy. Another reason we hope the church comes down. If it does maybe some of us will see our kids again.
Oh, that’s so hard to come to terms with, basically impossible imo – disconnection from one’s own family & children; for what? Some stupid belief that your family members are suddenly so toxic, they’ll destroy you? Yet, they loved you, supported you & your very life you lived until Scientology intervened. It’s just devastating what Hubbard did creating that mechanism. It’s as evil as it comes.
Losing your family that way is sort of like a living death.
Yes, the demise of Scientology will be extremely welcomed!
Oh, I feel for you and that’s so hard to come to terms with, basically impossible imo – disconnection from one’s own family & children; for what? Some stupid belief that your family members are suddenly so toxic, they’ll destroy you? Yet, they loved you, supported you & your very life you lived until Scientology intervened. It’s just devastating what Hubbard did creating that mechanism. It’s as evil as it comes.
Losing your family that way is sort of like a living death.
Yes, the demise of Scientology will be extremely welcomed!
You wrote: ” It is hard to fathom that this subject does not get more attention. ”
It is actually dead simple to understand the reason why. If you just stand back and try to look at things like an ordinary member of the public, the reason should be evident to you.
How many OT´s or esp OT8´s has died of cancer?
Any recovered?
I remember being so serious and thinking each NOTs bulletin was this holy trail of magic wisdom. I look at this last OT section and marvel that I was so respectful and kind of scared of the words.
Yet another moment of letting go of something I didn’t know was hanging around in my mind.
Everyone dies, but no one should suffer a premature death from Cancer.
On the replacement of the vessel MV Freewinds.
The vessel was acquired at a time DM wasn’t in control of Scientology. The vessel was employed as a cruise ship by the previous owners. During the pandemic many cruise ship operators retired and scrapped their cruise ships earlier than normal. DM had the golden opportunity to replace the MV Freewinds and could use the replacement of the vessel as a fund raising opportunity.
DM was definitely in control when the Freewinds was purchased an$ oversaw the launch and Maiden Voyage ceremonies.
Be that it may sir, DM did miss a golden opportunity.
Didn’t some of the OT’s who were posted on the Freewinds say it has asbestos?
I vaguely remember reading an LRHED decades ago & he wrote that OT8 was to be delivered at the AOs. I saw it as a tactical move in case one country falls due to take over, war etc the others could still deliver. That’s the concept I grasped. If that was what I read the ship is bullshit and simply a money making scam and holiday hide-a-way for DM to get some scuba time.
I’ve known a few scientologists (even OTs) who have died from cancer. All were drinking the kool aid till the bitter end.
I’ve known wogs who’ve survived because they were treated by real doctors.
What does that tell you about Hubbard’s bullshit?
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Medical research is specialized field which combine medicine with statistical analysis.
All medical research supervised by medical schools,pharma companies and Research firms follow protocols which include details about the location, age, gender of subjects ; doze quantity etc etc
In absence of them ,it’s just a figment of imagination of a delusional mind.
Not to dismiss the negative impact of Scn on cancer survival through delayed medical diagnosis of cancer, but whether or not one survives or whether their fight is relatively easy or hard can vary quite a bit by type of cancer, where it first develops, whether early signs are even spotted, and more.
For some, survival involves decisions around whether the dreadful side effects of chemo, radiation, surgery, etc. allow for a better quality of life. One person might go through 6 months of chemo, get tested annually for five years and be cancer-free for the remainder of their life, while another gets 6 months of chemo, has a recurrence within the year, spend another year on chemo, get pulled off because the side effects are causing more harm than the tumors, and be back on another chemo in 6 months because the tumors are growing aggressively. No Scientology impact in either case.
Again, not disputing that adding Scientology to the mix tends to tilt the scales much more heavily in the ‘not treated in time’ direction. Just pointing out that surviving cancer depends on a lot of other factors.