Yesterday’s post about the fake scientology tours brought some other interesting things to light.
First, one of the scientology “fronts” that smears whistleblowers announced that the Ft Harrison is “for scientologists only”.
When Aaron Smith-Levin pointed out that Lisa Mansell had lied to the Chamber of Commerce, the “Truth Newsroom” quickly “clarified” that it’s “open” to Non-Scientologists if they “don’t show up unannounced” and “where there are community events being held.”
But things became even more bizarre when someone dug up this EventBrite invitation to the “Tour” (which apparently no longer appears anywhere):
You need to “RSVP” and show up with a photo ID. You would think this was a tour of the White House or the CIA…
It is obvious what they are doing.
Give them your name and they will scour social media for any “bad connections” or “inappropriate friends” or membership in the wrong Facebook groups or comments they don’t like. If they find this, suddenly there will be no availability for the tour. Though I would guess there will be no more “tours” as the Hermit Kingdom shuts down even this limited access.
If you try to use a fake name to avoid scientology delving into your social media persona, they will catch you at the door when you’re screened to enter the building.
It would require a pretty elaborate effort to circumvent their screening process, and they are reasonably confident that nobody will bother to do what would be needed just for the sake of a wasted couple of hours. But who knows, it could be done…
How long will it be before they stop holding any “community events” inside the Ft Harrison out of fear of people asking the staff questions they don’t know how to answer?
That day may already have come.
as scientology is exposed for what it really is they withdraw further into their bubble and th3 remains sheeple become even firmer in their conviction that the “wog” world are losers and intent on destroying their efforts to save mankind. Poor deluded souls.
Siv Lindgren says
Hello!
Im living in Sweden, i just saw Going clear at youtube and Im chocked! Omg! Does this cult exist in Sweden too?? I dont belive this could happend here, we are not a religous country at all.
Im so impressed what You and Leah Rimini done to bringing this fkn shit so people now can see what they are doing to familys. Fuck Im upset!
Im sorry for my bad english.
Please take this shit down!
Take care!
/ S
smokkee911 says
Mike, just popping in to wish you a Happy Birthday! I hope you had an awesome day! 😀
Annie Oakley says
I’m a little late to the party, Mike, but hope your birthday celebration yesterday was most excellent!!
Stephanie Augustinho says
Hello Mike and happy (belated) birthday,
I don’t care one bit in f The Cult of Scientology knows what read and post to this blog. I am originally from Massachusetts. Oh good God help them if they ever try to mess with me. I would entire into a war of words and win because in a war of words, they happen to be unarmed.
Keep doing you Mike. People got your back, brother
jere Lull (38 years recovering) says
Stephanie:” I would entire into a war of words and win because in a war of words, they happen to be unarmed.”
Generally, I’ve seen that expressed as “In a war of wits, they come unarmed, but I’m warming up to your restatement of it.
Skyler says
More than once, Mike and Leah have said the best way to bring down this monstrous criminal cult is to keep publicizing their despicable deeds and keep publicizing the stories of their victims. I think that is completely correct.
Mel Brooks (maker of films like “The Producers” and “To Be or Not To Be” (you should see it if you have not ever seen it) says words to the effect, “The best way to bring down tyrants is to get a growing number of people to laugh at them and their idiocy.” I happen to think that is also correct.
Silly Davie boy is making both these things happen. This site has recently become one of my favorite comedy sites as well as my favorite “heroic” sites. I have always loved a good story where underdogs defeat a big bad asshole.
Cindy says
To add to Skylar’s post, we need to keep publicizing the date rape drug and raping and donkey punching that Danny Masterson, mediocre actor, did to at least 4 women, maybe more. And to bring to light that the Church of Scn knew about 3 of the 4 rapes, and did nothing to investigate Danny , and instead accused the women of pulling it in on themselves. So the church is in effect harboring a rapist.
The fact that the DA is holding on to it and is not charging Danny, nor are they exonerating him, is testament to the fact that the LAPD and now the DA, have been in the church’s pocket for years. Lee Baca, former police chief was paid off by Scn in the form of “donations” to the police division for their pet projects. Leah Remini found that out when she filed a missing person’s report on Shelly Miscavige, and without even going to see Shelly in person, the LAPD got back quickly to her to say that they’d talked to Shelly and she is OK. How do they know that who they talked to really was Shelly? More proof that LAPD is owned by Scn.
unelectedfloofgoofer says
I don’t think anyone has ever infiltrated the Flag Building yet. Or if they did, they didn’t make it out. I want to see photos of the big round running room dammit.
jere lull (38years recovering) says
George, Cults splinter into sub-groups when there’s something of VALUE for the sub-groups. There WAS the “indie scn” movement for awhile, including the self-proclaimed first independent reformed church of scientology, but there’s so little of value in scn that the splinters have dried up and blown away. Only as long as there are bubble-dwellers escaping and wanting scn service could the Indies exist. From what I saw, they weren’t bringing in any raw meat, just feasting on the carcasses that CO$ was spitting out. (or some other bodily function, if you prefer.)
Robert King says
OT9, OT10…… ??? I suspect OT8s are wondering if they even exist.
Jack Ryan says
Does the license as a hotel require Ft Harrison to admit everyone?
jere Lull (38 years recovering) says
Jack Ryan said:”Does the license as a hotel require Ft Harrison to admit everyone?”
seems not, as it’s a religious retreat for scientologists
Danielle Sandoval says
Mike, as always, I am amazed by the deceitful scientology can be. Quick question for you: what is the significance of “th3”? I’ve noticed it in a few of your recent posts and have come to the conclusion that your usage is deliberate. Or not? Just curious ? Wishing you the happiest of birthdays and many more years of love, laughter and continued health! Keep fighting the GOOD fight!
Mike Rinder says
Big thumbs trying to type on my phone ?
I Yawnalot says
The day draws inexorably closer when all media of all persuasions can report ‘what you see is what you get with Scientology’ – nothing! Empty buildings have a story to tell all of their own. Church goers in this present condition trip over the elephant in the room and don’t notice a damn thing. It could be suggested the intelligence level within Scientology is as active and busy as their car parks.
jere lull (38years recovering) says
Yawn:
“It could be suggested the intelligence level within Scientology is as active and busy as their car parks.”
Success! You did suggest it. Wish I could just upvote you, but the software is what it is, and the site settings what they are.
Kat LaRue says
Happy Birthday Mike!
Thank you for doing what you do!
Kat
Deborah Edgerton says
Screening absolutely happens.
Anyone who uses their real name on this wonderful blog has already been checked out and tagged as a SP by COS. Don’t believe me? Just test it at any big or small org. You will find yourself escorted to the curb. (My real experience in Tucson Arizona.)
When I received and unwrapped Mike Rinder bobble head I laughed out loud. It has been a long time since I’ve laughed out loud. It brings me joy every day. Thank you- and…….
Happy Birthday Mike!
jere lull (38years recovering) says
Deborah: Just for curiosity, How long did it take for them to do their check-up?
I’ve been hoping that they might have some sort of automatic comparator system that would find me and deadfile me as an SP in ALL their CFs. No such luck. We still get piles of junk mail from a selection of orgs. They often amuse my wife who earned a M.A. in literature and was a college English & creative writing professor for a couple of decades.
It’s SO fantastic yo laughed at the Bobblehead. Hey, being able to laugh in the face of their so-serious campaign to take over the world may be how to maintain our sanity as we investigate the insanity which is their (alternate) universe.
Kat LaRue says
Woohoo!! I’m an official SP???? Uh oh… should I be hiding in a closet somewhere? Oh wait, that’s what they do.
(Reference to the South Park episode completely intended here)
Kat
Aquamarine says
“As Scientology is exposed for what it really is they withdraw further into their bubble…”
L. Ron Hubbard said, “A being is as alive as he can communicate.”
Less and less ready, willing and able to communicate, continually protecting, withdrawing, hiding from the world at large – what would LRH say about the Church of Scientology now?
I Yawnalot says
What would Hubbard say? He already said it in policy – attack, never defend. But his most important question of all, money? comes first.
It’s pretty obvious Hubbard never cared for anyone but himself. Per his own words, “look, don’t listen.” And he died lonely and in seclusion, a hunted man. That’s his personal legacy, a methodology to join him.
Aquamarine says
Yawn, I know he cared outrageously about money, but I’ve read a LOT of his Green Vol PLs (nearly all of them, actually) and I can’t help but think that if he were alive today, he’d be flipping with rage over the down statistics in Divs 4 & 6. Say what you want about him and I won’t argue. Its just a feeling I have, but a strong one. The auditing, the training, the tech, were his creations, and I believe he was highly invested in them and their being used. I think he cared about the tech far more than he cared about his marriage or his kids, and what do I mean “I think”? I’m sure that no relationship with anyone meant much to him, only the tech he created and its success or failure.. Of course, in his day, the gross income stat was reflective of production, not like today where it comes from “straight donations” with no exchange from the church necessary. Now, if he were here today and saw the billions that Miscavige has amassed, would he be OK with the fact that it wasn’t earned by selling auditing and training? I have no idea. I can’t venture any kind of informed opinion on this. If money was his only goal then, yes, he’d be fine with it, as Miscavige is. But if you read the endless HCOPLs (and I used to like reading them if you can believe that) then its hard to believe he didn’t care outrageously about the tech, its usages and applications. But we’ll never know so its all good, Yawn.
I Yawnalot says
Scientology’s postulated success is all wishful thinking. How long does it take for a true product of its technology to materialize, how does one wait, or to personally experience the freedom promised after all the time, effort , sacrifice and money spent on it? It could be suggested Scientology is very political in nature – promises exactly what you want to hear but delivers something different or not at all. I happen to think the tech has some merit too, I audited for years. But does it do what it is stated to do? Where’s the evidence that it does? Hubbard took an entirely different approach than what he said his tech would do – why did he take on a battle with the authorities he knew he’d never win? He could have just as easily set up his church using the existing religious safeguards to free people quietly and build one hell of a personnel base to operate from & all with the blessing of the Govt if he just kept his social manners sane and followed the law he expects others to follow. He didn’t even respect his own family’s right to sit beside him through good times & bad. Saying that the tech is more important than one’s families welfare – geezes Aqua… I have a serious problem with that being even close to sane, especially with Hubbard’s claim of cause over life and greatest good etc – what about his marriage vows? He lied!
jere Lull (38 years recovering) says
IYAWNALOT said:”…It could be suggested Scientology is very political in nature – promises exactly what you want to hear but delivers something different or not at all.”
Nicely said,Yawn. I’d venture to say it delivers nothing at all. AND as someone who attested to ‘clear’, I’m still WAITING TO SEE A BOOK 1 CLEAR. I certainly had a floating TA for months after, but NONE of the promised super powers, not even with the head-start that having an IQ in the to 2% would give. Not even Tubby, the highest-level OT, was proofed against illness, an NO ONE can successfully combat an SP, not even Aaron’s super “SPdawg”.
Aquamarine says
Bear with me if you don’t mind; I’m in the mood to pile on:
Add to “Less and less ready, willing and able to communicate, continually protecting, withdrawing, hiding from the world, etc., ” – add to that
Scientology Organizations NOT doing their jobs.
* NOT producing Clears
*NOT producing OTs
* NOT training HGC auditors
* NOT bringing in New Public
To continue:
* NOT expanding (Did I say that already?)
* NOT changing society for the better
* NOT having any effect on Psychiatry
* NOT having any effect at all on Big Pharma
More later…
jere Lull (38 years recovering) says
Aquamarine Listed:”….
* NOT producing Clears
*NOT producing OTs
* NOT training HGC auditors
* NOT bringing in New Public
Add:
—–NOT producing ANY auditors,
—–An impossibly-long runway before getting allowed NEAR auditor training.
—–Making it high-on impossible for PCs to get full gains (4-swing “F/N”, MORE wooden TRs, other arbitrary requirements injected into training
jere lull (38years recovering) says
Aquamarine quoted:”L. Ron Hubbard said, “A being is as alive as he can communicate.””
And that describes scientology nicely
If you skip the lying which is NOT actual communication, there’s NOTHING left but the dessicated hulls of former whales, since bled dryer than the Sahara.
Aquamarine says
“…the dessicated hulls of former whales, since bled dryer than the Sahara.”
Grand stuff! You’re in a colorful mood today, jere.
Shirley says
Yikes!! Sounds bad…on another note..
Happy birthday Mike!!
Skyler says
Hey Aqua,
I been thinking about your recent post where you nominated Kat LaRue for president.
I’ve thought about that quite carefully and I have to tell you:
I agree a million percent.
Smoker says
Why is no one talking about the new Anonymous video calling out David Miscarriage and Tom Cruise? I was so excited when I saw it, but no one else seems to be.
Chuckles says
Link?
Kat LaRue says
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VTXAB-RjVaw
Skyler says
That was an interesting video. I especially enjoyed the way they pronounced “Miscavige”.
Skibum says
Link?
Kat LaRue says
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VTXAB-RjVaw
Kat LaRue says
Smoker,
I was! But ive been trapped in a boring conference and unable to communicate until now! I think they wised up on the twitter we were all sneaking yesterday.
Kat
PeaceMaker says
It looks to me like the work of quite possibly just one person, who doesn’t even have a very good understanding of the controversy and gets some important details wrong. So I don’t think it’s actually a very powerful statement, or the key to a new round of Anonymous activism, unfortunately.
Kat LaRue says
Peacemaker,
It may be one person, but I’m happy for any movement in this And there is definitely a larger anonymous presence on twitter. They aren’t all focused on Scientology but it may converge if someone gets it started up…
Kat
Skyler says
When I Google “tom cruise miscavige”, I find two videos on Youtube. The first is one hour long and was last updated on 2018 Aug 8. It is an interview with Chris Shelton and Mark Headly. It’s titled “Scientology, David Miscavige and Tom Cruise ft Marc Headley”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO43lnDh5eI
The second one is much shorter 4:52. It is titled “Tom Cruise and David Miscreant” and was last update 2009 Jan 23. It consists of a series of still photos of the two of them on the ship Freewinds. But the text provides some interesting info about a big fight they had over Nicole and how Cruise was convinced to return to The Scam.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=video+tom+cruise+miscavige
Neither of these can be the video that Smoker refers to. I can’t find it. Does anyone have a link?
Skyler says
I just watched the first video. It’s actually two hours long and I’m sorry to say that I cannot recommend you spend two hours of your life watching it. I just found it terribly boring. But you should probably decide for yourself.
Balletlady says
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIKE RINDER! CONTINUED BLESSINGS IN YOUR LIFE IS MY WISH FOR YOU & YOUR FAMILY!
Aquamarine says
Happy Birthday, Mike!
Christopher Baranet says
Happy Birthday, Mike.
Peter Blood says
Using your science fiction imagination and basing your “religion” on a rock star space lord was never the brightest idea to begin with for a foundation of beliefs. Right out of the gate you look like fools and numbskulls. Any wonder why the contents of OT III was kept secret for so long? And would still be mostly secret if not for the Internet?
Easily available information was something LRH did not count on exposing his shallow, money-grabbing and spectacularly evil cult. I only wish he had lived to see his scam fall apart.
Balletlady says
Hubbard wasn’t the only one into this new meat body scenario Marshall Applewhite Jr. & his friend a Nurse Nettles started their Heaven’s Gate Cult.
Applewhite and Nettles told their followers that they would be visited by extraterrestrials who would provide them with new bodies. Applewhite initially stated that his followers and he would physically ascend to a spaceship, where their bodies would be transformed, but later, he came to believe that their bodies were the mere containers of their souls, which would later be placed into new bodies. These ideas were expressed with language drawn from Christian eschatology, the New Age movement, and American popular culture.
He & 39 of his followers committed a mass suicide to get up to that “spaceship”.
PeaceMaker says
Heaven’s Gate is a better comparison than the People’s Temple of Jim Jones, for what could happen in at least some corner of Scientology – I’m glad you thought to bring that example up.
And it’s even scarier that they all were convinced to carry it out quietly and voluntarily, without the chaos and coercion that took place in Jonestown.
Somewhere there’s video of a session at a freezone annual convention* where the participants are led through a guided visualization of communicating with aliens, framed as if it is some actually “real.” The audience eats it up as if it’s a big “win”; it’s a very bizarre demonstration of the true believer mindset.
* An event that was once reasonably well attended, but appaears to have dwindled to virtual non-existence in recent years, like most of the rest of the indie world.
Ammo Alamo says
Imagine their surprise if a forgiving Lord instead placed them in Heaven, where there are no spaceships, only a virgin mother and a whole crowd of true believers who wouldn’t know a spaceship from a man-eating whale.
Richard says
With a lack of critical thinking most of the concepts on the lower Scn levels might seem “reasonable.” Once someone developed a belief in or at least a suspension of disbelief in reincarnation they would be set up to look at the space opera as, “Maybe in the vastness of the universe over the last 13 billion years something like that once happened.” Thoughts causing reads on the e-meter might give credence to the existence of incorporeal (disembodied) beings called body thetans. I didn’t do the OT levels so I guess everyone who did put it into their own frame of reference.
My guess is that half of the human population has a belief in or suspension of disbelief in incorporeal beings and an afterlife.
Richard says
A fellow who went by the handle “ThetaClear” had gone over every part of Scientology in great and extended depth (years) looking to see if he could salvage what was worthwhile in the subject once wrote, “Most of us were intellectual adolescents when we entered Scientology, having little or no background in science, religion or philosophy.”
jere lull (38years recovering) says
Peter Blood:”Easily available information was something LRH did not count on exposing his shallow, money-grabbing and spectacularly evil cult. I only wish he had lived to see his scam fall apart.”
He DID. though it was somewhat hidden by the clamp on his comm lines that DM installed. He died alone, unable to leave a smaller and smaller shrinking universe that AFAICT was no larger than his bunk in the Bluebird. He HAD to be aware how little control he had over the external world compared to what he had had. The 11 top GO execs, including his last wife(Who was loyal to the end) were jailed, he was indicted in other countries, and he could nothing about it except cower under his covers. No longer could he freely walk the streets attended by his bevy of beautiful young women showing off their newfound beauty in halter tops and hot pants. [And he thought he was being *INCOGNITO* like that?]
Old Surfer Dude says
They just can’t get out of their own way.
Balletlady says
OSD…Changing ANYTHING would put doubt in the minds of the long time true believers. As far as the old timers are concerned….they are DUE a brand spanking new “meat body” when the one they presently “rent” wears out and dies…….
Old Surfer Dude says
“Change ANYTHING would put doubt in the minds of the long time true believers.” I fully agree with you. One little glitch would send all of them spinning.
d lawless says
Interesting – Same photo in the invitation and subsequent press release after the event. Clearly not the work of professionals
Old Surfer Dude says
Clearly the work of idiots.
I Yawnalot says
Work… is that what you call it?
Old Surfer Dude says
Pork…is that what you call it?
SILVIA says
Wasn´t Flag promoted as the friendliest place in the planet, first in the whole history of humanity?
Then, why do they ask you to use the parking lot at Downtown or the one of Garden Av.?
If they were friendly, they will allow you to park at the Fort Harrison´s parking lot and even will provide you with valet parking.
Oops…we caught them on another lie…!
Peggy L says
Not really funny, but maybe amusing, that the cult keeps putting out these wonderful deals and have to know full well that what they think are the hidden caveats will soon be exposed.
Anywhoooo,
This was on my home page this morning. I thought it was interesting.
“I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.”
Source: The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul, Author: Douglas Adams
Roger Larsson says
“Ron Hubbard, that fucking bastard fooled me” makes people up or down. If he’s right there’s plenty of time to make odd even but if he’s wrong there’s only a life-time to go on.
George M White says
When cults decline, they usually splinter and break into sub-groups. This happened at the end of the Roman Empire as society declined and Christianity took hold. It seems that advanced science is taking hold now over Scientology with a myriad of theories. In the end, it is a curse on Scientology from science and that is not expected as reality. Not many choices for Scientology at this point. I think an attack on their sales force (FSM’s) could do real damage as when I was in this held them together – the money not the theory. This is why the Feshbach lady rock slammed on my e-meter. She really wanted the money to be on par with her rich husband.