I was coerced into signing onto mission staff when I was just 3 years older than these girls. They’re going to hate it. I hope they change their minds.
I was 15 when that f***ing scumbag ED in my city’s small org sweet-talked me into joining staff. My Scientology parents didn’t want me to join staff, because it was a failing org, and our purpose was to make money to go up the Bridge. I wasn’t of age, so they vetoed it. That f***er knew my birthday, and when I turned 16, he changed tack: “You made the commitment, you have to honor it.” I was guilted onto staff, and my parents couldn’t say anything, because that would be going against the organization. I curse that manipulative son of a bitch. He was an actual bad guy.
This just goes to show you that the machine the old man setup is still operational. It also goes to show you how fragile humans can be when their own frailties and the frailties of their parents are used to enslave.
It does get less and less.
We have never been as close as we are now to seeing it stopped.
Sad…..a worthless document Forbidden to accept employment outside the bubble of COS belief & indoctrination because an outside the bubble employer or coworker might fill their heads with the TRUTH.
Critical Thinking nonattainable, must OBEY without question the inane nonsensical babble of the Wizard of Lies….Lron Tubbard.
I was surprised to learn the Bellaire Mission had moved to a much larger building 3 years ago. County records show they paid Largo Medical Properties LLC $1.2 million for it! Their prior location was a small storefront. Now they’re operating from a 15,000 square foot monster. The prior building was a mere 6,000 square feet. Has the Diminutive Midget’s compulsion/thirst for mega palaces infected the mission network now?
The prior location was at a major crossroad and in a prime shopping area. Many, many stores, shops restaurants etc. all around it. In other words, lots of public. Now it is across the street from a shabby trailer park. Don’t the Feshbachs know those folks don’t have the wherewithal to be able to afford their outrageously expensive services???
Their website says they’re open only 7 hours a day 5 days a week. Not surprisingly Google Maps Street Views show no cars in their parking lot for all the dates the Street View drivers passed by.
Hubbard died in January, 1986. I remember because I was on the Freewinds in 1988 looking back. After the disaster called OT VIII I had a plan. Imagine that Hubbard was still alive living in Creston in his Blue Bell Motor home. I went through the mental motions of going to California and finding him in the motor home. As exchange for OT VIII, I would beat him to a bloody unconscious pulp and throw his technology at him. This would also make a great display in the new L Ron Hubbard hall in Clearwater. Perhaps these girls could see it along with millions of others.
nearly 50 years ago, *I* was one of those who thought scientology was a career path. Sadly, that didn’t work out; primarily because the ‘tech’ didn’t work as advertised. If it did, I’m sure I would still be in there, slogging away.
More likely, that stroke I had 13 years ago from years of chain-smoking would have left me completely incapacitated or dead. As it was, it was a near thing, even WITH my lovely wife who ignored my protests and called Emergency Services. who wasted no time getting me to the Emergency docs who had me airlifted to the best stroke center in the region. People like me aren’t afforded much medical care and even less accommodation for my disabilities. If I’m not a fully functioning and productive person, THEY aren’t going to help. Most likely, I’m sure they would have shuffled me off to some sort of hospice care, and been *annoyed* if I didn’t promptly “end cycle” and go get a new body. scientologists don’t care about //*PEOPLE*, only their almighty STATS.
And it’s a further tragedy in the making. Smart money is that at some point down the road, either these kids or their parents (presuming they ARE kids of Scientologists) will decide to leave the Church… and whoever is left behind will be forced to disconnect.
Their signatures probably set events in motion that will tear their families apart.
Today, I read these verses from Psalms & I “saw” Miscavige & LRH in the words. This was written circa 1440 BC – 538 BC. I am in NO WAY trying to change anyones religious beliefs. These verses struck a cord with me regarding scientology. I thought you would find this interesting & applies to the girls above.
The words weak & helpless apply to ANYONE & SHOULD NOT be taken as negative. They represent those born into scientology & those seeking something.
Psalms 10:2-11, 15
In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak, who are caught in the schemes he devises. He boasts about the cravings of his heart; he blesses the greedy and reviles the Lord. In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.
His ways are always prosperous; your laws are rejected by him; he sneers at all his enemies. He says to himself, “NOTHING WILL EVER SHAKE ME.” (Emphasis is mine.) He swears, “NO ONE WILL EVER DO ME HARM.” (Emphasis is mine.)
His mouth is full of lies and threats; trouble and evil are under his tongue. He lies in wait near the villages; from ambush he murders the innocent. His eyes watch in secret for his victims; like a lion in cover he lies in wait. He lies in wait to catch the helpless; he catches the helpless and drags them off in his net.
His victims are CRUSHED, they COLLAPSE; they FALL under his strength. (Emphasis is mine.) He says to himself, “God will never notice; he covers his face and never sees.
Break the arm of the wicked man; call the evildoer to account for his wickedness that would that would not otherwise be found out.
A “Break the arm” – destroy the power to oppress.
B “Call the evildoer to account” – humble such arrogance with your righteous judgment.
The last verse applies to all of the ex-scientogists who are exposing the truths about this cult. Miscavige will be held accountable for ALL his actions. Persistent exposure of the REAL TRUTHS will prevail.
I applaud your dedication to bring these truths to light.
The OT (Old Testament–not the other one) has a lot of insightful narratives on the human condition–not unlike Shakespeare. I find it revealing that human behavior hasn’t changed much over the centuries.
Once youth raised in Urban environment ,used to of mobile phone , internet , social media etc etc are pretty smart to check things happening in their surroundings.
Long gone the days , when they can be make-believe subject.
They are from that generation whp Google every thing and sought reply from Google as well.
Two lovely young girls, no doubt with the best of intentions to help friends, families and loved ones in particular; mankind and the planet in general. Its a shame and a waste, alright, but the bright side is that its only staff and not Sea Org – yet. Possibly they’ll hate being on staff and not renew their contracts. Or better yet – blow! Fingers crossed they only waste at most a couple of years of their precious youth. Fingers also crossed that that being on staff opens their eyes to what they’re actually enabling.
Well, OK, a girl can dream.
And then, let us not forget; WE woke up. WE were all drinking the KA and woke up. If we could do it, others can too.
O/T. Senator Ron Wyden (D Oregon) touts the endorsement of the FAMILIES Act by the Church of Scientology National Affairs Office, among many others.
The Finding Alternatives to Mass Incarceration: Lives Improved by Ending Separation Act (FAMILIES Act) would allow federal judges to divert parents and caregivers from incarceration into a comprehensive program that would better serve them, their families and society by offering resources, services and training to meet their unique needs.
Nah. These girls very likely are living at home and supported by their koolaid drinking parents who are either OTs or angling to be accepted to the OT levels by donating their children to slave for the cult.
Its win win for the parents.
Let the kids drop out of high school. Encourage them to join staff. Applaud them for doing this.
Don’t clue them in that dropping out or merely graduating from high school pretty much assures they’ll never get a decent job and be self supporting.
But never mind, (think the brainwashed little dears) Dad and Mom think we’re great for doing this and Scientology staff all say we’re and superior big beings so to hell with what Wog Society thinks of us, and as for earning a living, why, we’ll make it go right!
And then, look at all the dough that the parents save not sending their kids to college. At least half a million per kid. Why, that money could pay for the parents’ OT levels! A much better use of their dough, for sure.
Yes, its win win all the way for parents and cult, and lose lose for the kids.
But again, on the brite side, its a few years…much can happen in a few years.
Of course this antagonistic rant of mine is based on the presumption that these girls are 2nd or 3rd generation with devout in good standing cult parents.
Which may not be the case with these 2 girls.
But from my observations it has almost always been the case with cult kids who join staff or SO while the parents proudly beam and say, “This is the best place for them!”
I really, really hope these girls somehow, in some way, wake up, and blow.
Yes Aqua…that IS the COS “game plan”………do NOT allow them to obtain a High School Diploma or GED….that ASSURES they will NEVER find gainful high paying employment & become self supporting/financially independent.
Their ONLY choice is to remain inside the bubble of fakery, attached at the hip to all that garbage they’re being spoon fed. Mom & dad are drinking the Kool Aid, it makes the LIE easier to swallow.
So sad…..as I’ve said before…held back from obtaining CRITICAL THINKING….they know nothing about the outside world…which according to COS will “damage their souls & fill their heads with lies”……………takes one to know one.
Until they are mature enough to decide for themselves if they’ve got the guts to walk out when they’re 18 & leave, knowingly “disconnecting” themselves from their parents…..wow, that’s a bitter pill for anyone to swallow, let alone teenagers.
Its tragic and a travesty of justice, what is perpetrated on these kids. And yet, the parents believe they couldn’t in a million years steer their kids in a better direction. Unless they’re rich, or have themselves some kind of business where the kids can work and that they eventually take over – barring these exceptions, the Scientology parents condemn their own kids to economic hardship and all the rest of the struggle and lack of respect that goes with being uneducated and unemployable in this country. And these parents do it with the best of intentions. Therein lies the tragedy. The road to hell, etc., etc.
The parents are blindly loyal, like in many other religions where you are “taught to obey without question”…………….I’d mention ultra conservative types of religion thru “mega churches”…………where you follow the “tenets & indoctrination”……….OR ELSE.
Many don’t have the strength to leave all they’ve ever known, like the FLDS women who are still fully bound to their “supreme leader” who now sits in prison BUT is STILL running the show from his prison cell.
The US Government made an attempt to “SAVE” these women from being under the control of their husbands. What happened was a HUGE FLOP as the women demanded to be returned to the only life they’ve ever known.
I’ve said it here many times: “You cannot save someone who does not want to be saved”…………….the minor children are under the control of their parents. Only when they reached 18, can they ATTEMPT to leave…& then be disconnected/cut off from the ONLY THING THEYVE EVER KNOWN.
Under educated with little to no viable job skills……no outside contact on how to LIVE in the world beyond the bubble of belief….it’s a frightening prospect many cannot handle., especially when you have been monitored daily your entire life.
No CRITICAL THINKING on how to handle life outside is terrifying…………KUDOS to all of you who have managed to make your way in the world & survive.
I hear you, Jere. But here’s another way of looking at it:
If you believe that we live again and again – and I do, what can I say, I do believe that, so sue me 🙂 – if its true that we are immortal beings who reincarnate lifetime after lifetime – then I wouldn’t want to be the being that this lifetime has the nametag David Miscavige. God no. Imagine what he has to “clean up”…I’m shuddering. OMG, what he has done, the people he has killed, harmed…all of this, someday,to be confronted…OMG.. I wouldn’t want to be the being that is him, uh uh. Underneath the perfect hair and the capped teeth and the immaculate Egyptian cotton shirts, there’s filth. Real, yucky, gummy, filthy filth. Many layers. Endless layers. Ugh.
Sometimes you get back back you give out…….what goes around comes around….
David M wants to know: “what ARE YOUR CRIMES………………..
.
in reality, he’s got a few more decades to live if what has been reported to be his high intake of alcohol doesn’t kill him first…………….then……………….
Balletlady, I don’t really know, but I’ve always had the belief that we ALWAYS get back what we give out, eventually, in some way 🙂 Appearances frequently to the contrary though 🙂
Well Aqua, I have to relate a little words someone said (sorry can’t remember who)) it went something like this:
When you die & go to Heaven
You Will be Shocked to see who IS there
You will MORE Shocked to see who ISN’T……
I keep those words stored in my “memory banks” (hopefully I won’t lose that)……it makes thinking about it quite funny.
Also along the same line:
The BEST parents can have the WORST kid
The WORST parents can have the BEST kid
Is it the luck of the draw,
Fate
A spin of the wheel
OR perhaps the “old standby”
“God doesn’t give you more than you can handle”……….Well, in all honesty God has overshot the field for me on several occassions.
Yet I muddle through…..sometimes you just HAVE to count on yourself as the ones you THINK you can count on, well they don’t want to be there for the problems & some have their own problems & sometimes simply “disappear”….only to return when the “good times do”…….
Ahhh….as they say….Life Goes on….so we make the best of it.
I feel David M is ALREADY being punished in a way….just WHO can he REALLY TRUST……..NO ONE really. He has to constantly look over his shoulder, drink himself into oblivion to get through a day.
Does he sleep well at night, only if he drinks himself into a stupor….his dreams must be horrific. To lay there staring at the ceiling wondering when “THEY” will come to get him….lock him up, throw away the key……..
JUSTICE SHALL BE SERVED…IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!
Stay well my friend, my best to you & your family!
valboskisays
Frankly, nobody gives a crap about “past life” overts……….at least, I don’t see anybody doing conditions or amends for anything they did that came up in auditing from a “past life”………….except, of course, victims of rape or abuse by $cientologists who had “pulled it all in…..”
So……the homunculus is safe from retribution. But…..if you believe in Karma……………that’s a different story…….
To clarify, valboski; I don’t have any definite reality on past lives. It SEEMS to make sense to me that we live again and again – after all, the leaves come back, the flowers die and come back – why not us, you know?
No reborn flower is the SAME flower because that flower withered and died but it sure is similar when it comes back in the spring, you know?
Anyway, as re past lives, and living again and again, and us being immortal beings, this is a mere belief of mine because I have no proof that its true and I don’t actually KNOW.
Therefore, my conviction that “what goes around comes around” is limited to THIS lifetime.
I won’t say, I can’t say, that what I might have done wrong in some other life is being revisited upon me in this lifetime. I have no reality on that.
But in THIS lifetime I have definite reality that things I did that were wrong, decisions I made and actions I took that hurt other people have come back to me, and not in a good way.
And conversely I also have reality that decisions I made and actions I took that I knew were the right decisions and actions to take, decisions that at the time were difficult or emotionally painful, or inconvenient or just plain boring, decisions and actions that I KNEW were the correct decisions that I made myself adhere to and do – these came back to me later, sometimes quite suddenly and unexpectedly and sometimes from an entirely different area or from different people- in a good way.
Just my experience in my own life, that’s all. For whatever its worth, I’m somebody who can’t get away with ANYTHING. Seriously.
I was coerced into signing onto mission staff when I was just 3 years older than these girls. They’re going to hate it. I hope they change their minds.
poor girls, wasted youth and wasted lives ahead. god love them
I was 15 when that f***ing scumbag ED in my city’s small org sweet-talked me into joining staff. My Scientology parents didn’t want me to join staff, because it was a failing org, and our purpose was to make money to go up the Bridge. I wasn’t of age, so they vetoed it. That f***er knew my birthday, and when I turned 16, he changed tack: “You made the commitment, you have to honor it.” I was guilted onto staff, and my parents couldn’t say anything, because that would be going against the organization. I curse that manipulative son of a bitch. He was an actual bad guy.
I never get used to seeing this.
This just goes to show you that the machine the old man setup is still operational. It also goes to show you how fragile humans can be when their own frailties and the frailties of their parents are used to enslave.
It does get less and less.
We have never been as close as we are now to seeing it stopped.
Sad…..a worthless document Forbidden to accept employment outside the bubble of COS belief & indoctrination because an outside the bubble employer or coworker might fill their heads with the TRUTH.
Critical Thinking nonattainable, must OBEY without question the inane nonsensical babble of the Wizard of Lies….Lron Tubbard.
They aren’t safe even in a mission. The SO came regularly to gut missions by stealing their staff.
I was surprised to learn the Bellaire Mission had moved to a much larger building 3 years ago. County records show they paid Largo Medical Properties LLC $1.2 million for it! Their prior location was a small storefront. Now they’re operating from a 15,000 square foot monster. The prior building was a mere 6,000 square feet. Has the Diminutive Midget’s compulsion/thirst for mega palaces infected the mission network now?
The prior location was at a major crossroad and in a prime shopping area. Many, many stores, shops restaurants etc. all around it. In other words, lots of public. Now it is across the street from a shabby trailer park. Don’t the Feshbachs know those folks don’t have the wherewithal to be able to afford their outrageously expensive services???
Their website says they’re open only 7 hours a day 5 days a week. Not surprisingly Google Maps Street Views show no cars in their parking lot for all the dates the Street View drivers passed by.
It’s an “ideal” mission. It, like Tampa Org survives on Flag public and kids trying to avoid Flag regges.
Hubbard died in January, 1986. I remember because I was on the Freewinds in 1988 looking back. After the disaster called OT VIII I had a plan. Imagine that Hubbard was still alive living in Creston in his Blue Bell Motor home. I went through the mental motions of going to California and finding him in the motor home. As exchange for OT VIII, I would beat him to a bloody unconscious pulp and throw his technology at him. This would also make a great display in the new L Ron Hubbard hall in Clearwater. Perhaps these girls could see it along with millions of others.
That’s sad!
nearly 50 years ago, *I* was one of those who thought scientology was a career path. Sadly, that didn’t work out; primarily because the ‘tech’ didn’t work as advertised. If it did, I’m sure I would still be in there, slogging away.
More likely, that stroke I had 13 years ago from years of chain-smoking would have left me completely incapacitated or dead. As it was, it was a near thing, even WITH my lovely wife who ignored my protests and called Emergency Services. who wasted no time getting me to the Emergency docs who had me airlifted to the best stroke center in the region. People like me aren’t afforded much medical care and even less accommodation for my disabilities. If I’m not a fully functioning and productive person, THEY aren’t going to help. Most likely, I’m sure they would have shuffled me off to some sort of hospice care, and been *annoyed* if I didn’t promptly “end cycle” and go get a new body. scientologists don’t care about //*PEOPLE*, only their almighty STATS.
And it’s a further tragedy in the making. Smart money is that at some point down the road, either these kids or their parents (presuming they ARE kids of Scientologists) will decide to leave the Church… and whoever is left behind will be forced to disconnect.
Their signatures probably set events in motion that will tear their families apart.
It also marks the beginning of another cycle of abuse and oppression.
Today, I read these verses from Psalms & I “saw” Miscavige & LRH in the words. This was written circa 1440 BC – 538 BC. I am in NO WAY trying to change anyones religious beliefs. These verses struck a cord with me regarding scientology. I thought you would find this interesting & applies to the girls above.
The words weak & helpless apply to ANYONE & SHOULD NOT be taken as negative. They represent those born into scientology & those seeking something.
Psalms 10:2-11, 15
In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak, who are caught in the schemes he devises. He boasts about the cravings of his heart; he blesses the greedy and reviles the Lord. In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.
His ways are always prosperous; your laws are rejected by him; he sneers at all his enemies. He says to himself, “NOTHING WILL EVER SHAKE ME.” (Emphasis is mine.) He swears, “NO ONE WILL EVER DO ME HARM.” (Emphasis is mine.)
His mouth is full of lies and threats; trouble and evil are under his tongue. He lies in wait near the villages; from ambush he murders the innocent. His eyes watch in secret for his victims; like a lion in cover he lies in wait. He lies in wait to catch the helpless; he catches the helpless and drags them off in his net.
His victims are CRUSHED, they COLLAPSE; they FALL under his strength. (Emphasis is mine.) He says to himself, “God will never notice; he covers his face and never sees.
Break the arm of the wicked man; call the evildoer to account for his wickedness that would that would not otherwise be found out.
A “Break the arm” – destroy the power to oppress.
B “Call the evildoer to account” – humble such arrogance with your righteous judgment.
The last verse applies to all of the ex-scientogists who are exposing the truths about this cult. Miscavige will be held accountable for ALL his actions. Persistent exposure of the REAL TRUTHS will prevail.
I applaud your dedication to bring these truths to light.
Keep up your good work.
Linda
The OT (Old Testament–not the other one) has a lot of insightful narratives on the human condition–not unlike Shakespeare. I find it revealing that human behavior hasn’t changed much over the centuries.
Yes, it’s very sad to see youth wasted on such a disastrous cult. I can only hope they wake up sooner than later.
Once youth raised in Urban environment ,used to of mobile phone , internet , social media etc etc are pretty smart to check things happening in their surroundings.
Long gone the days , when they can be make-believe subject.
They are from that generation whp Google every thing and sought reply from Google as well.
Two lovely young girls, no doubt with the best of intentions to help friends, families and loved ones in particular; mankind and the planet in general. Its a shame and a waste, alright, but the bright side is that its only staff and not Sea Org – yet. Possibly they’ll hate being on staff and not renew their contracts. Or better yet – blow! Fingers crossed they only waste at most a couple of years of their precious youth. Fingers also crossed that that being on staff opens their eyes to what they’re actually enabling.
Well, OK, a girl can dream.
And then, let us not forget; WE woke up. WE were all drinking the KA and woke up. If we could do it, others can too.
O/T. Senator Ron Wyden (D Oregon) touts the endorsement of the FAMILIES Act by the Church of Scientology National Affairs Office, among many others.
The Finding Alternatives to Mass Incarceration: Lives Improved by Ending Separation Act (FAMILIES Act) would allow federal judges to divert parents and caregivers from incarceration into a comprehensive program that would better serve them, their families and society by offering resources, services and training to meet their unique needs.
https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-jayapal-reintroduce-legislation-to-provide-alternatives-to-incarceration-for-parents-and-caregivers-to-keep-families-together-children-out-of-foster-care
Letter listing the Church of Scientology National Affairs Office as an endorsing organization:
https://www.wyden.senate.gov/download/families-act-of-2021-stakeholder-letter&download=1
Memorialized with screenshots on ESMBR at:
https://exscn2.net/threads/senator-ron-wyden-d-oregon-touts-the-endorsement-of-the-families-act-by-the-church-of-scientology-national-affairs-office-among-many-others.3662/
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The eyes of both women say, ‘what have I done???’
Well, thankfully it is a mission so the “contract” is only 5 years at the worst.
Interesting they are the only ones in the photo. Is the only other staffer the one taking the picture?
Little does she know that soon she will never be able to afford fluffy keychain collections ever again.
Nah. These girls very likely are living at home and supported by their koolaid drinking parents who are either OTs or angling to be accepted to the OT levels by donating their children to slave for the cult.
Its win win for the parents.
Let the kids drop out of high school. Encourage them to join staff. Applaud them for doing this.
Don’t clue them in that dropping out or merely graduating from high school pretty much assures they’ll never get a decent job and be self supporting.
But never mind, (think the brainwashed little dears) Dad and Mom think we’re great for doing this and Scientology staff all say we’re and superior big beings so to hell with what Wog Society thinks of us, and as for earning a living, why, we’ll make it go right!
And then, look at all the dough that the parents save not sending their kids to college. At least half a million per kid. Why, that money could pay for the parents’ OT levels! A much better use of their dough, for sure.
Yes, its win win all the way for parents and cult, and lose lose for the kids.
But again, on the brite side, its a few years…much can happen in a few years.
Of course this antagonistic rant of mine is based on the presumption that these girls are 2nd or 3rd generation with devout in good standing cult parents.
Which may not be the case with these 2 girls.
But from my observations it has almost always been the case with cult kids who join staff or SO while the parents proudly beam and say, “This is the best place for them!”
I really, really hope these girls somehow, in some way, wake up, and blow.
Yes Aqua…that IS the COS “game plan”………do NOT allow them to obtain a High School Diploma or GED….that ASSURES they will NEVER find gainful high paying employment & become self supporting/financially independent.
Their ONLY choice is to remain inside the bubble of fakery, attached at the hip to all that garbage they’re being spoon fed. Mom & dad are drinking the Kool Aid, it makes the LIE easier to swallow.
So sad…..as I’ve said before…held back from obtaining CRITICAL THINKING….they know nothing about the outside world…which according to COS will “damage their souls & fill their heads with lies”……………takes one to know one.
Until they are mature enough to decide for themselves if they’ve got the guts to walk out when they’re 18 & leave, knowingly “disconnecting” themselves from their parents…..wow, that’s a bitter pill for anyone to swallow, let alone teenagers.
Its tragic and a travesty of justice, what is perpetrated on these kids. And yet, the parents believe they couldn’t in a million years steer their kids in a better direction. Unless they’re rich, or have themselves some kind of business where the kids can work and that they eventually take over – barring these exceptions, the Scientology parents condemn their own kids to economic hardship and all the rest of the struggle and lack of respect that goes with being uneducated and unemployable in this country. And these parents do it with the best of intentions. Therein lies the tragedy. The road to hell, etc., etc.
The parents are blindly loyal, like in many other religions where you are “taught to obey without question”…………….I’d mention ultra conservative types of religion thru “mega churches”…………where you follow the “tenets & indoctrination”……….OR ELSE.
Many don’t have the strength to leave all they’ve ever known, like the FLDS women who are still fully bound to their “supreme leader” who now sits in prison BUT is STILL running the show from his prison cell.
The US Government made an attempt to “SAVE” these women from being under the control of their husbands. What happened was a HUGE FLOP as the women demanded to be returned to the only life they’ve ever known.
I’ve said it here many times: “You cannot save someone who does not want to be saved”…………….the minor children are under the control of their parents. Only when they reached 18, can they ATTEMPT to leave…& then be disconnected/cut off from the ONLY THING THEYVE EVER KNOWN.
Under educated with little to no viable job skills……no outside contact on how to LIVE in the world beyond the bubble of belief….it’s a frightening prospect many cannot handle., especially when you have been monitored daily your entire life.
No CRITICAL THINKING on how to handle life outside is terrifying…………KUDOS to all of you who have managed to make your way in the world & survive.
FREEDOM IS A GOOD THING
Superb comment, Balletlady. Sums it up.
Right, Aqua. Another example of scientology being the game where EVERYONE loses. Except Dwarfenführer®, of course.
I hear you, Jere. But here’s another way of looking at it:
If you believe that we live again and again – and I do, what can I say, I do believe that, so sue me 🙂 – if its true that we are immortal beings who reincarnate lifetime after lifetime – then I wouldn’t want to be the being that this lifetime has the nametag David Miscavige. God no. Imagine what he has to “clean up”…I’m shuddering. OMG, what he has done, the people he has killed, harmed…all of this, someday,to be confronted…OMG.. I wouldn’t want to be the being that is him, uh uh. Underneath the perfect hair and the capped teeth and the immaculate Egyptian cotton shirts, there’s filth. Real, yucky, gummy, filthy filth. Many layers. Endless layers. Ugh.
Sometimes you get back back you give out…….what goes around comes around….
David M wants to know: “what ARE YOUR CRIMES………………..
.
in reality, he’s got a few more decades to live if what has been reported to be his high intake of alcohol doesn’t kill him first…………….then……………….
A “higher power” will be asking HIM:
“David M……………..” WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES…….”
Balletlady, I don’t really know, but I’ve always had the belief that we ALWAYS get back what we give out, eventually, in some way 🙂 Appearances frequently to the contrary though 🙂
Well Aqua, I have to relate a little words someone said (sorry can’t remember who)) it went something like this:
When you die & go to Heaven
You Will be Shocked to see who IS there
You will MORE Shocked to see who ISN’T……
I keep those words stored in my “memory banks” (hopefully I won’t lose that)……it makes thinking about it quite funny.
Also along the same line:
The BEST parents can have the WORST kid
The WORST parents can have the BEST kid
Is it the luck of the draw,
Fate
A spin of the wheel
OR perhaps the “old standby”
“God doesn’t give you more than you can handle”……….Well, in all honesty God has overshot the field for me on several occassions.
Yet I muddle through…..sometimes you just HAVE to count on yourself as the ones you THINK you can count on, well they don’t want to be there for the problems & some have their own problems & sometimes simply “disappear”….only to return when the “good times do”…….
Ahhh….as they say….Life Goes on….so we make the best of it.
I feel David M is ALREADY being punished in a way….just WHO can he REALLY TRUST……..NO ONE really. He has to constantly look over his shoulder, drink himself into oblivion to get through a day.
Does he sleep well at night, only if he drinks himself into a stupor….his dreams must be horrific. To lay there staring at the ceiling wondering when “THEY” will come to get him….lock him up, throw away the key……..
JUSTICE SHALL BE SERVED…IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!
Stay well my friend, my best to you & your family!
Frankly, nobody gives a crap about “past life” overts……….at least, I don’t see anybody doing conditions or amends for anything they did that came up in auditing from a “past life”………….except, of course, victims of rape or abuse by $cientologists who had “pulled it all in…..”
So……the homunculus is safe from retribution. But…..if you believe in Karma……………that’s a different story…….
“Homunculus”…I had to look that up 🙂
To clarify, valboski; I don’t have any definite reality on past lives. It SEEMS to make sense to me that we live again and again – after all, the leaves come back, the flowers die and come back – why not us, you know?
No reborn flower is the SAME flower because that flower withered and died but it sure is similar when it comes back in the spring, you know?
Anyway, as re past lives, and living again and again, and us being immortal beings, this is a mere belief of mine because I have no proof that its true and I don’t actually KNOW.
Therefore, my conviction that “what goes around comes around” is limited to THIS lifetime.
I won’t say, I can’t say, that what I might have done wrong in some other life is being revisited upon me in this lifetime. I have no reality on that.
But in THIS lifetime I have definite reality that things I did that were wrong, decisions I made and actions I took that hurt other people have come back to me, and not in a good way.
And conversely I also have reality that decisions I made and actions I took that I knew were the right decisions and actions to take, decisions that at the time were difficult or emotionally painful, or inconvenient or just plain boring, decisions and actions that I KNEW were the correct decisions that I made myself adhere to and do – these came back to me later, sometimes quite suddenly and unexpectedly and sometimes from an entirely different area or from different people- in a good way.
Just my experience in my own life, that’s all. For whatever its worth, I’m somebody who can’t get away with ANYTHING. Seriously.
These people may cause my death due to the shaking of my head due to their antics.