The Kansas City and Columbus “ideal orgs” are supposed to open over the next 2 weekends.
This is no surprise — Miscavige probably stayed in the UK and is flying directly to Kansas City for the opening, which is why it is one week after the IAS. It is also timed so he could get a double whammy -announce it at the IAS and then show the ribbon yanking as main topics To prove massive international expansion at the New Years Event. He could not have an entire year with NO “ideal orgs.” Back in the good old days he had them at each event throughout the year.
Remember the hullabaloo about “doing it all simultaneously”? That was never meant to be an indication that all ORGS would be done at once. It was an admonition to get all the ELEMENTS done simultaneously. Fundraising. Staff recruitment. Staff Training. Files.
Often these orgs would fundraise for YEARS because that was what was demanded of them. Then they would find they had the money ready for the building but no org. CF was backlogged. There were no staff. They didn’t have tech and executive trained personnel. So, the new battle cry became “Give is your money, join staff and devote time to preparing the org files.”
But they are a LONG way from achieving this objective. Remember the recent post about Chicago needing 268 staff to be ideal? This is apparently the requirement for all “ideal orgs” though none come close to attaining it. Chicago won’t have 268 staff when it opens (or ever).
Hell, Columbus is still trying to round up their first 100 — and they are opening a week from today.
As has been said many times before. The “ideal org” scam is an internal PR campaign to convince scientologists everything is hunky-dory.
They accept that these are “new” orgs. For the most part they can no longer convince the external public of this. There has been no “NEW” scientology org on earth since Harlem and Inglewood. There are LESS scientology orgs today than there were in the 1990’s.
And none of the new buildings they’ve dedicated have anything close to a full complement of staff. They round some up with initial promises of how wonderful things will be when they “go ideal” but reality sets in quickly and those who were conned into joining leave. They even subsidize housing and bring staff in from out of state or even outside the country… You simply need swing by any of these recently opened “ideal orgs” to see just HOW ideal they are. Detroit. Orlando. Salt Lake City. Atlanta. They are back to the struggling shoestring operations they always have been. Scientologists, the supposed masters of “confront” do NOT want to look at these orgs. They would rather buy the fantasy that are sold at the events.
And just as a final capper. Let’s not forget that this is all based on the enormous lie that this is what L. Ron Hubbard said they should be doing “building Ideal Orgs”. But if any of these blind mice actually READ what Hubbard said (now hard to find because they can no longer buy the books that contain the policies he wrote) they would find this policy. Just to highlight the insanity, you will see the ONLY references to the premises highlighted in yellow. And nothing about “information displays” to replace people. Or putting CF into new folders.
Before I left I made about 6 attempts to get staff to read what LRH wrote about the importance of buildings, real estate, about fundraising instead of selling Scientology…forget it! You’d think I was coercing them into reading “Lady Chatterly’s Lover” or something. None of them would read it. And from what Mike has posted here, there still not reading any LRH. I’m surprised they still know who he is.
“they’re” not “there”. Sorry, always these UBER-dumb errors when I’m emotional.
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I’m watching the Xenu Misc Cabbage channel on You Tube. To say that I’m horrified is putting it mildly.
LMFAO Zee Moo but when u think about it, it’s so sad too! Lol
“The ideal org would be an activity where people came to achieve freedom and where they had confidence they would attain it.”
I spent my last five years at Flag including the last two months in HELL on the “Free”winds. I can attest that neither one of these TOP orgs can provide this and they KNOW it. As far as I’m concerned and what I experienced (and I believe what most experience on these levels) were mentally onerous and abusive and 99.9% unnecessary programs, courses, ethics handlings, “briefings,” and sec checks where the only “confidence” I had was the “freedom” I would experience when I was done with Flag and off that ship.
It is a very sad state of affairs in this country and around the world where people who unwittingly find themselves part of this group calling itself a religion have no legal recourse to hold this group accountable for the financial and mental damage it does to individuals and their loved ones.
Mary Kahn, you speak the truth. I experienced the same treatment you did. And on VII there were hobby horses for sec check added questions that everyone got. And ethics “homeowork” that everyone got. In comparing notes once I found out the ethics officers just wrote the same ethics cram for lots of people. That way they didn’t have to spend time looking up references and being original or creative at all. Just cookie cutter it.
ONe of the sec check hobby horses was “do you owe money to the IRS?” When the church finally was recognized as a tax exempt church by the IRS, the deal they worked out was that we would police our own parishoners and make them pay taxes and back taxes. So it showed up on sec checks. The other sec check question everyone got asked was if they masturbated. I think this was either a way to add hours and thus money to the coffers, or maybe it was DM’s obsession about the subject that made it show up on the sec checks.
Anyone happen to catch The Daily Show with Trevor Noah last night? He was talking about the fires in California and he said: “These fires are extremely dangerous and they are spreading across California. It’s like nature’s version of scientology.” Lol.
It would be funnier if not for Noah’s blatant hypocrisy and double standard. He has gone to great lengths defending islam and the demonising of muslims, even so far as labelling critics of islam “racist.” Yet when it comes to scientology, anything goes.
It would be just as funny if the punchline referred to the spread of islam across Europe. The only corporate media host who’s brave enough to make that joke is Bill Maher. At least he’s consistent.
It would be so cool IF the authorities were “waiting to meet him” at either location…..can you imagine the look on his face??”
“David Miscavige, we have a warrant for your arrest. Place your hands behind your back”…then they read him his rights….
Amazing that the scam is still going on, hard to explain the blindness of parishioners.
Hello SILVIA. After watching Mike and Leah’s show, I seem to remember this point was discussed a few times.
People who have been duped into believing this scam is worth something, have almost always been subjected to some form of “mind control”. So, they may see all kinds of criminality on the part of this scam and they may recognize it as such or not. But under this “mind control”, they simply refuse to believe anything other than what they’ve been told to believe.
It’s a long process and often slow. It begins with “love bombing” where most everyone the newcomer meets tells them how wonderful they are and how they are loved like they have never been loved before. From there, it’s a slippery slope that causes people to slide into mind control.
This scam has had a long time to perfect this process of brain washing. They have had a huge number of encounters with the people they dupe and as a result, they have perfected the technique of mind control. It is a terrifying process.
So, to address your concern, “Amazing that the scam is still going on, hard to explain the blindness of parishioners”, I can understand – to some degree – why the dupes behave the way they do. The reason has to do with mind control.
But the thing that is hard for me to understand is just how Law Enforcement and the Legal System have stood by and allowed this terrible criminal scourge to plague so many families for so many years. This scam has been going on for about 70 years now. Other plagues that use “mind control” have been going on for much longer. Almost every government on this planet have strong laws against serious crimes like murder and kidnapping. They have created systems of laws for crimes that were not previously understood or defined – such as the RICO statutes.
There are some governments – like Australia (I think) – that react to this scam by snorting at them and saying words to the effect, “Oh get the Hell out of here. You thing we believe this bullshit?” Get your ass out of our country and don’t ever come back.
My question is why haven’t all the government in this world reacted in a likewise fashion? They all recognize murder as a serious crime. Why have they not enacted some criminal laws against “Mind Control Cults”?
I think a prime reason that the the US government is hesitant to go after the CofS, is that influential religious groups might get ensnared as well, such as regarding how they treat religious workers, particularly those on visas. And when it comes to issues including financial exploitation, quite a few popular prosperity gospel and televangelism ministries would be at risk of trouble on such accounts, including such as inurement of their leaders.
In Australia, as in the US, there was a brief period of pushback against Scientology, followed by governmental acquiescence. Scientology only has tax exempt status in the UK, which has generally taken a pretty no-nonsense attitude towards the group, because of a sort of reciprocity agreement with Australia, where it did get tax exemption.
Sometimes it’s not blindness; it’s a trap.
Thanks Mike!
Another great day to be out of the cult. Every day is a libs day.
I believe I’ll spend the day making soup and do some fall baking.
Apple pie and fresh rolls, anyone?
🙂
Yes. Freedom from this group is amazing. Today I think I’ll take a hike at Lake Tahoe, breath and take in the fresh clean air.
YES yes and more yes to homemade apple pie and fresh rolls! I can smell it now.
I completely agree! I spend the afternoon making lamb stew with moroccan spices – the whole house smells so good! One of the worst things the SciCult steals from people is being able to enjoy the good, simple things – without guilt. Without the mind control that tells them they are Bad if they are interested in or enjoy ANYTHING except the mandated Save The Planet crap. I do pity them – their lives have been stolen from them.
Stop! Its late and for various boring reasons I didn’t eat dinner tonite nor is there anything in the refrig I can cook. Have mercy, please. Apple pie, fresh rolls, Moroccan Lamb Stew – have mercy! I’m dragging myself to the deli!
“without guilt”
Y.E.S.
Hubbard set us up to view all the nicest things in the world as all being TRAPS to keep us stuck here on the prison planet. I now see how a large portion of the cult tek specifically isolated me from the world and made anything but Doing Scientology an overt and waste of my precious little time to get all the way up the bridge in this one short lifetime.
Wired from birth to appreciate and value delayed gratification, I would have all the fun and lazy times after I saved the planet and secured my eternity with fully established OT abilities.
…
Moving through this long experience of shedding the cult influences…
It’s an unforgivable that is very personal for me, goes very deep and is hurtful to me in an extremely singular fashion…
Its unforgivable that he robbed me of so much joy. That he made me feel shame while admiring the world, ….a forest quiet, a pebbled path… stark silhouettes of winter trees against an iron sky…
Every. Single. Scrap. Of. enjoyment.
I experienced with this tandem sense that, “I shouldn’t” .. “It’s Wog, it’s Mest, it’s a trap, it’s all part of the lie.”
……
Cake and Pie and kittens from here on out for little old me. No guilt.
🙂
(I Love the sounds of your stew. I make a mean Moroccan Chicken with my own preserved salted lemons. Zowie!!)
(((Hugs))) I can totally relate. Cake and Kittehs and Pie. IMO Pie fixes everything. That and the fact that we own our lives now. Guilt free.
Reading today’s ‘green on white’ Hubbard policy letter produced a sick feeling in my guts. I read this as part of a staff training checksheet when I was the ‘Hubbard area secretary’ at a mid-sized mission in the early 80s. I got recruited (love-bombed) into the position and was all gung-ho to improve the situation at the local mission so that we would have the results promised in this letter simply by applying the ‘tech’ Hubbard laid out for us. I tried my best to make things go right and get everyone else on board to achieve these aims. It was a soul crushing experience. At the time, I thought that it was my fault for not being able to get my fellow staff members sufficiently enthused to ‘boom the stats’ and expand scientology into the community and beyond. Later, I found that the real problem was that Hubbard’s ‘tech’ simply doesn’t work. At the time is sounded good, but in fact it was nothing but a bunch of contradictory policies and procedures put into place to support and perpetuate the scam. When reading the various critics blogs on the internet, I can’t say that nothing has changed over the years. It has changed, it has gotten worse. I really feel sorry for those still in and guzzling the Kool-Aid as I once did. What a waste of life energy. Sad and depressing. I just want to bitch slap some sense into these people, but that wouldn’t work. Everyone needs to walk their own path to freedom. Some make it some don’t. But I still hold out hope for many of them.
Saw a video of the Ottawa org taken during the day this last week. An unmarked store front in a defunct part of town. NO signage. NO staff. Locked door. Only a couple of people seen walking on the entire street (1/2 mile long).
The “org” occupies the street level window you see from this view. https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4332109,-75.6690673,3a,37.5y,343.43h,88.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0RX60rFZuM5dujeLEBIqvQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
That streetview was probably from the time it was under renos prior to a recent move. It moved from a hole-in-the-wall on Rideau to this location. Now the signage is clear and big. They occupy a walk-in area on the first floor and also the floor directly above it.
There’s basically 2 families running this outfit and they’re all both mad as hatters.
Then every “Idle Org” would eventually purchase all of the surrounding property just like Flag in Clearwater. The IRS needs to seriously wake up to these people.
Yes indeed George! The IRS needs to seriously wake up to these people and to this scam. They have needed to do that for many years now.
This is the serious issue that I just can’t understand as I have explained in my reply to SILVIA’s post above in this blog.
Some people have told us in this blog that we all need to write to our Members of Congress and tell them to get busy criminalizing this scam (as well as other Mind Control Scams). It is so puzzling that it has not yet happened. What will it have to take to get the governments of this world to outlaw this terrible crime against humanity?
Skyler, you are not educated on US const. Congress cannot just “criminalize this behavior”. What behavior? Law doesn’t operate like that. Congress is also loathe to get involved because it passed a VERY unconstitutional law in the tax ode restricting a church’s 1st amendment activities and they DOn’T want that brought to SCotUS or it will be struck down.
I wrote to my Congressman in Florida several times and even requested an interview on the subject of Scientology tax exemption. He never responded.
Check this out:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_status_of_Scientology_in_the_United_States
In reality, the current tax exemption agreement with the IRS
violates a previous Supreme Court ruling against the church.
Beyond that, the church has repeatedly violated a plethora of
rules and stipulations in the agreemenf since its approval by the IRS.
Those are two broad, factual legal issues that could be tackled…
by an alternate-universe IRS with the financial resources, legal acumen,
endurance, political will( with executive branch support; refer to the short list of government executives who have the authority to initiate this kind of review), and high ethical standards necessary to fight this battle to its correct, just conclusion. In short, it probably ain’t gonna happen, but at least there ARE real, available legal avenues that could be pursued to put this cult out of business.
Another, slightly more realistic angle of attack might be tackling the church’s financial fraud vis a vis credit card fraud. The civil cases dealing with sexual abuse, kidnapping, and human trafficking-among other issues-are another line of attack, albeit a slow-moving one…I’m also curious to see if some pending criminal fraud cases with direct scientology connections( see Jeff Augustine’s scientologymoneyproject.com and this blog for examples) create some kind of unforeseen legal blowback for the church…
It is not illegal to pretend to be a real estate mogul in large city. It might even get you elected President.