Here’s a new one from a tipster in the Clearwater area:
My friend got into an Uber and the driver handed her a scino booklet. See below.
My friend immediately got into it with the driver asking why is she promoting a cult during her Uber experience.
This is all pretty odd.
Flag is NOT a place that wants new public. So, why promote it? As they aren’t trying to recruit, what is the QR code about on the front of this little booklet? Perhaps this is a “goodwill” item trying to get people to come visit the “Community Center” where they can be regaled with videos of the humanitarian works of scientology?
Anyone in the Clearwater area seen a little booklet like this?
The lack of awareness of the local environment is pretty astonishing. Unless the person getting into the Uber was already a scientologist (in which case, why give them the booklet?), I cannot imagine this being well received by anyone. Nobody wants to hear pitches about the wonders of scientology in Clearwater. And certainly not when they are a captive audience sitting in an Uber they are paying for. Catching a ride with Travis Bickle would be much preferred over a scientology-pitcher.
Wonder if Uber is aware of this? I doubt the driver would have a job for long if they do find out about it.
But then again, that would make a terrific piece for STAAD to write about — the bigots at Uber who discriminate against them based on their religious beliefs. Maybe this is the real plan…. It would not be the weirdest thing scientology has ever done. Not by a long shot.
NNGrad says
Flag the Freewinds and every org in the planet are in a very low income situation that they are willing to receive whatever gets them the needed money
You can do online courses in Flag that could be delivered by other orgs, you can do the purif and basic courses at the freewinds, where just OT 7 doing OT 8 should be there with no distraction
The ocupation rate should be at 20 percent, empty academies and clears every week, and they need also money for accomodations
dr mac says
The answer is obvious. The Uber driver was doing lower conditions and part of the condition was handing out promo, irrespective of whether it was appropriate or even ethical. I know, I’ve handed out promo to my neighbors plenty times without giving a shit whether they read it or not.
Imaberrated says
I think I would tell them that it’s cult, and I would cancel the trip and get out. I would report them, and they certainly wouldn’t get a tip. I would want them to know that there were consequences for trying to push this cult on me.
Dotey OT says
In the history of scientology, there have been many, many side jobs, odd jobs, weird jobs that staff and scientologists did/do for income. Being on staff did not pay the bills alone, in fact, just the opposite.
I worked for a year in the 90’s and had a $ 2,200.00 W2 from the choich to show for it, and I you can guess how many hours each week that I worked, the number averaged +70 hours each week. I had to pay rent, all my bills, child support as well.
Uber is not a weird side job, but it’s almost perfect for the “trying to make money for bridge by working every waking hour” scientologist. I have a friend (still in) that has been doing the Uber gig in order to save up for bridge.
Here is a short list of odd jobs/gigs that I can recall:
– Buying and selling mobile home axles
– Selling art by car
– Selling rugs on the roadside
– Food processors in malls
– MLM things (Vitamins, etc.)
There are more than this, I just can’t recall them right now, thank god!!
I did do one of the above. It was a crazy thing that I was doing to fund the crazy big thing that I was doing called scientology.
Chris Shugart says
With apologies to Martin Scorsese:
“You disseminatin’ to me? You disseminatin’ to me? Then who the hell else are you disseminatin’ to? You disseminatin’ to me? Well I’m the only one here. Who the f**k do you think you’re disseminatin’ to?”
Aquamarine says
🙂
Mary Kahn says
:))))
Revolted says
Maybe an Uber driver could hand out entreat from SPs? Now that would be worthwhile!
Laura says
Maybe the passenger could take this opportunity to establish a friendly dialogue with the driver and pass along an Aftermath card – making it a positive interaction. I would think confronting the driver in a negative way would not do anything to encourage them to leave.
Stefanie says
Maybe you should just join the other Freaks!!
KatherineINCali says
Geez, Stefanie. That was a bit unnecessary. And Laura does have a point. Generally speaking, $cientologists don’t respond well to criticism and confrontation.
Being friendly and trying to gently open their minds to a different viewpoint is a better approach — whether it works or not.
Loosing my Religion says
It would be legitimate to think that the international situation with ‘new chickens to pluck’ is such that there is a general order to bring in new people from any org or level.
They are in worse shape than we think.
Fish Swim. Birds Fly says
Why doesn’t Scientology use truth in advertising?
After all, this is the most ethical group of big beans on the planet.
It would be very helpful to the poor victims “curious about it” if $cientrickery told the truth.
The booklets should say:
” Come to the Fraud Scam Base; $ciendollatry’s Mecca of technical extortion, inhumane treatment and mind control deception where once you check in, you will never leave until you are broke and broken”.
Google Lisa McPherson Introspection Rundown Negligent Homicide Fort Homicide room 174 and how David Miscavige and his minions were responsible for the negligent homicide but harassed the medical examiner to get Joan Wood to change the “cause of death” as Joan Wood’s life was destroyed via fair game. She’s dead too.
Jere Lull says
scientology CAN’T advertise honestly. If they did, NO ONE would take the bait. The only truth being told of the enterprise calling itself scientology these days are from the scn-watching sites here, and the documentaries on TV.
Thomas Weeks says
This could be a side hustle to get fsm commissions. You could almost form a narrative about how the driver came to flag looking for super powers, ran out of money and formulated a super theta, tone 40 plan to get that money. Scientology has so many weird tales just like this.
Chukicita says
Maybe it wasnt Flag, but some gung-ho from Tampa org? It’s close enough that an Uber driver could start there and end up in CW. Or Belleair mission.
pluvo says
“Flag is NOT a place that wants new public. So, why promote it?”
Maybe it is on a program to “out-create” the bad PR, probably also in anticipation of Aaron getting into the City Council, and/or after a Miscavige had one of his fits.
Xenos says
Thats something i don’t understand, why wouldn’t flag want new people? I thought the goal of scientoliegy is to get as many people through the organization as possible? Isnt it contradictory to scientoliegys goals or is flag exclusive for the scientology elite ?
KatherineINCali says
Xenos —
Yes, Flag is strictly for “elite” $cientologists who spend a ton of money on courses, etc. Random people (AKA “wogs”) are not welcome.
pluvo says
Flag is mainly delivering the OT levels and is staffed by only Sea Org members. It is not an Organization for new public. Flag gets its new people from other Orgs from other places and from around the world.
There are different levels of organizations, ascending:
– Missions and “Class V” Orgs which are the “normal” Scientology Organizations which deliver services and train till “clear”. These are set up for new public.
– Then there are the Continental Organizations (staffed by only Sea Org) who deliver (and train) till OTV.
– Above it is Flag (Flag Service Organization) in Clearwater which delivers till OTVII.
– On the Freewinds ship the highest level, OT VIII, gets delivered.
These Organizations deliver also other courses, but the hierarchy of the OT levels is set. Theoretically can any higher Org deliver lower level services, but Flag is neither set up for new public nor interested that new people mingle with their OTs and OT-delivery services.
This is the basic structure, but when going into more detail, it gets more complicated. I was looking for a simple chart, but didn’t find one. In case that I stumble over one later or an article or video where it is explained in a simple, understandable way, I’ll let you know here.
Hope this helps you. If you have any more questions, any time. 🙂
Xenos says
Thanks for the reply. Does continental org mean every continent will have at least 1 org that trains OT levels ? For example lets say i train in Melbourne and get to clear if i want to further progress i would then go to the continental org ?
Where does a ideal org sit in all this ? Is a ideal org and class V org one and the same ?
pluvo says
To your first two questions: Yes! But Hubbard created also artificial administrative continents depending on the numbers of Scientology members, e.g. next to the UK was/is Italy an administrative continent.
https://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Continental_Liaison_Office
Yes, an “Ideal Org” is a Class V Org which has reached certain criteria and size. It is an invention from David Miscavige to replace the earlier very much pushed achievement to become a “St. Hill Size Org”, named after the first Org in England which was created and run by Hubbard in England. It has to have a certain size and to fulfill certain criteria, also size a certain standard of architectural appearance and furnishing.
Here a quite extensive article about “St. Hill Size”: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-big-is-st-hill-size/
What are Ideal Orgs really all about: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-are-ideal-orgs-really-all-about/
Scientology’s internal promotions are all about “Ideal” this and “Ideal” that, ad nauseum. Ideal Orgs, Ideal Continents, Ideal USA, Ideal World (“Ideal” — you name it…..).
Basically its all about money, real estate and PR to pretend that Scientology is expanding (and what a successful leader Miscavige is). In reality Scientolohgy was shrinking from about 90,000 members in the 90ies to about 20,000 members today, worldwide.
Excellent and easy understandable explanations by Chris Shelton in one of his videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9MpC8efB7U
Xenos says
Thank you for your reply, very helpful. It takes a big commitememt then to do OT levels, unless you are lucky enough to live in the same city of the org giving OT training you have to move to another city to continue your training !!! Its amazing how much religion (even fake religions) can move people and what people will do for it. Mikes family left Adelaide for Britain (mind you everybody leaves Adelaide), others pack their bags to live in the states all in the belief that they are changing the world for the better when in reality they are doing absolutely nothing. The only good i know that Scientoluegy does is that they help out at some disaster sites by giving people water and comforting them and throwing people in a sauna and cooking them for hours per day in order to detox them (at a hefty price) !!!!
Jere Lull says
When things get desperate enough, the clams will try ANYTHING, it seems.
Jere Lull says
Stats must REALLY suck for them to do this Uber thing for Flag. Desperation seems to be scientology’s family name.
Zee Moo says
No matter where the red headed bastard raises his dead head, it gets smacked down. Thanks to everyone who has raised the vox populis knowledge of $cientology. Of particular help has been South Park, Tom Cruise and everyone who has discussed their past in the $cienoverse.
Ebola Coated kidde porn indeed. Fix that Pr ‘problem’ Mr. Miscavige.
Jere Lull says
Davey would say “There is no PR problem, just a bunch of cics SPs
Joel Bruner says
A little iPhone on iPhone QR Code reading action and the “mystery revealed”: https://www.scientology.tv/Flag
Which is a page for Episode 5, Season 1 of “Inside Scientology” which says it Aired April 23, 2018 (*yawn*)
I think QR codes are allowed in Scn because they are somewhat related to punch cards which was the premiere technology on the ancient planet of Arse-lickus “bill-yuns” of years ago (of course)….
Jill Ellsworth says
I scanned the code from your picture. It promotes What Is Scientology? It prompts the scanner to tune into their cable network channel.
Mike Rinder says
Thanks! I should have thought of doing that…
Pumpkin says
I didn’t want anyone from Sci knowing my location if I scanned to look.
grisianfarce says
Make sure your phone shows you the URL _before_ taking you to the website. No point giving them free clicks, and avoid any obviously phishy websites.
Jere Lull says
If you have an iPhone, I believe you can turn on “iCloud relay”, which double-spoofs your address and location, allowing you to safely browse to scientology sites. I wonder if we can get Apple to include that domain as “spam”, thus automatically avoided as possibly dangerous. THAT would be “an effective blow” against those SPs in what remains of Davey’s fiefdom. Safari users would be thus protected from their deprecation.
Jere Lull says
Mike exclaimed: “Thanks! I should have thought of doing that…”
That’s why you keep all of us around, to waste our time, not yours. I would have thought that the QR code would have pointed to the most basic scn site, not FLAG, the mecca of “standard tech”.
Silly me.😇
Jere Lull says
Flag would highlight the power of Ron’s tech[niques] if it shifted to bringing in and indoctrinating ‘raw meat’
Maria de Jesus Gutierrez says
Is THAT what “tech” is??? I keep hearing members and former members use that term in a way I don’t understand, and even asked on Facebook or twitter, maybe both, what “tech” meant. I assumed it was short for “technology”! “Techniques” never even occurred to me.
Teresa Scott says
LMAO, for the past 8 months I too thought tech was short for technology!
Jere Lull says
Yup, ‘Tech’ was supposed to be short for technology, but since there is no technology working as advertised, only the techniques of indoctrination are important. THEY work exactly as designed.
Susan Harbison says
Thanks! The definition of technology is:
the branch of knowledge that deals with the creation and use of technical means and their interrelation with life, society, and the environment, drawing upon such subjects as industrial arts, engineering, applied science, and pure science.
By this definition the only technology I know of in the cult is the meter. But when people refer to “using the tech” they seem to be talking about applying Hubbard’s principals. Was Hubbard claiming those principal were scientific?
Jere Lull says
Tubby CLAIMED he was doing science from the beginning, but never once showed any actual evidence to back his pronouncements up, only further assurances that it was “science”. The guy never got the memo: “SHOW your work.” He was too paranoid that someone would follow his work up with better research and show him and his results up.
Susan Harbison says
It’s hard to show YOUR work when all you are really doing is plagiarizing the work of others!
To be fair, there was a little bit of science mixed in with Hubbard’s endless BS.
Jere Lull says
ANY excuse to play the victim.
Despite “You are responsible for your condition.”, they LOVE to play that card at every opportunity, much like the sociopath wanting his mark’s pity.
So sad
Peridot says
Agreed, Mike, this is a mystery. If one were to don the deerstalker cap and skills of Sherlock Holmes, an immediate feature that stands out is the frayed, worn condition of the small promotional item. It looks like it has been living on a dirty floor under the passenger or driver’s seat; in other words, not very pretty or inviting. And a QR code to scan and take you to…. what? As you say, unless you are a Scientologist with an approved, scheduled visit to Flag, there is no known rationale to “include,” engage, or invite a stranger (to Flag). You will not be allowed in, not in any grounds or spaces whatsoever. This is odd, unless the driver mistakenly thinks Flag is akin to a “center” where all people are welcome and encouraged to visit—a local attraction to promote, along the lines of the “While you are here, you may wish to explore our famed Clearwater Marine Aquarium.”
Jere Lull says
As long as you’re here, why not visit our world-renown cult center which is dedicated to separating everything of value from any who enter its premises, giving in return only empty promises which will be withdrawn whenever convenient to them.