This is a bit old. I had overlooked it and then noticed “No Reging”[sic].
This is a very interesting development. John Alex Wood is still alive and kicking? Who knew?
But more importantly, I think this is an indicator the pandemic is going to have a significant long-term effect on scientology. Not only because people are not coming in and paying for services right now and are instead hiding out at home doing a $20 Extension Course, sending in a chapter every few weeks. But because this break is changing the mindset of the sheeple.
It’s like someone who has had a headache every day for 10 years and then one day it vanishes. They had forgotten what it was like to be without the pain. Now that people have been distanced from the vultures for some time, they are unlikely to go back to how things were. And they are having to say “No Reging” so as not to scare people away. Not everyone is going to follow this pattern. Certainly not the IAS. But it is a trend I am sure we will see more and more as things emerge from lockdown.
There is also word leaking out from inside the bubble that there has been a crackdown on some of the most criminal reg tactics. Taking out credit cards for people or charging to existing cards without their knowledge. Soliciting loans on their behalf. Debiting their accounts for books and services they were unaware of. A number of regges have been busted. Apparently a lot of these practices emanated from the “ideal org training ground” at LA Org: Miscavige’s brilliant strategy for training people from around the world into the criminal stat push methods of the desperate Sea Org drones he installed into LA Org.
Of course, changes like this ONLY come as a result of external exposure and pressure. Graham Berry has played a large role in this.
When some heat began to be generated, I imagine Miscavige quickly “shot” some underlings so he can later say if he needs to, “the minute I found out about it, I dealt with the people responsible.” This is his standard operating procedure. Through threats and intimidation, force staff into doing things they would not ordinarily do in order to increase the stats/income (think back to the “Basics Evolution” which reached monumental levels of insanity), bask in the glory of announcing “more books sold last week than in 50 years previously” and “highest ever, ever 10X orders of magnitude expansion” and then when he sees some possibly personal downside, “I got rid of those criminals.”
Formost says
No reging is achieved by:
A. Staying away from SCN organizations.
B. Reading off the OT III platens to any Sea Org doorknockers or SCN callers.
* You will get a subsequent receipt of your successful efforts in the form of a golden rod.
Tsu Dho Nimh says
It’s very telling when a church has to tell you “You will not be asked to give money” in order to get you to show up for an event. The Catholic parish in my hometown had various public events — everything from yard sales to Bible study groups — and never did the parish have to tell parishioners they would not be asked for money just for showing up.
Goes to show you the culture of Scientology is rooted in cold hard cash.
Renfield says
What is the full story on John Alex Wood and Scientology, Mike? Ghastly little man who currently runs a z-grade PR company called WORLDWIDE PR and former OSA flunky. He is busy trying to affiliate himself with holocaust awareness projects by association having had a father who helped liberate Belsen. John Alex is well documented as a Monty Python obsessive who Eric Idle promptly told to “f#&k off” when he became aware of his Scientology background. A thoroughly nasty man is John Alex and a full, up to date report on his involvement in Hubbard’s circus of freaks by yourself would be most appreciated.
Loosing my Religion says
Scn is structured on the stats. This is its most profound essence.
Any crap was made in the name of the stats.
And although they pretend for a while, we can bet that they will come back. It is their nature.
Certainly in recent years the participants at the events have fallen below an alarmist level. And so they had to realized and ‘accept’ that their public had had enough of being vampirized every time.
So now it’s the “Hey! We’re harmless. Come on” strategy.
But much will not last long. The push on the stats will resume as before.
It is in the DNA of the cult. They will never escape it.
Jethro Bodine says
“No Reging” – one of Scientology’s great lies like “the check is in mail”.
Clearly Not Clear says
I wonder if there was legitly no Regging?
One work around would be to get local FSM’s assigned to people, to just have a chat, about, wouldn’t it be wonderful if they could help out with whatever they got enlightened on during the program instead of using registrars.
On more than one occasion when I was drifting from being a Kool aid drinker, a reg used my best friend to invite me to a dinner and they showed up magically. Another time I was invegaled to go to a particular party and a reg drove 2 hours to come over to me and have a little communication and joke around. Unfortunately, both of the manipulations worked to loosen filthy lucre from my tight pockets.
No pocket is tight enough to resist the 26 methods of breaking down your brick wall of defense. The hard sell technique drilled into anyone who reges money for Scientology is very manipulative and very effective.
Poor Les Dane would roll over in his grave if he realized his helpful sales techniques were used to fleece millions of dollars from people who just wanted to help.
John Doe says
Remember that bit by Hubbard, “If you know the tech of something and use it, you cannot become the adverse effect of it.”?
Well, I read Les Dane’s book, Big League Sales Closing Techniques. Thereafter, I knew exactly what regges were doing and it became much more difficult for them to get me to hand over the money unless I wanted to do so. And I always made them work at it and perfected several pained expressions and such so that they would think they were extracting every bit available.
Looking back at it as I write this, it’s pretty messed up that I put up with any of that!
Aquamarine says
Wait: “No Regging”?
Without regging, how can the cult stay alive?
What – are they going to start selling SERVICES again?
With no staff? Public not just broke but now jobless and broke?
Um…I think not 🙂
Great post, Mike. Great news and great post.
Wynski says
They didn’t Reg DURING the event. AFTERWARDS they called any person who was moronic enough to “attend” the event. 🙂
aquamarine says
I know, yes, that’s correct and I didn’t make that point clear in my comment.
Old Surfer Dude says
We’ll, it looks I’ve been slapped in the face. It was great while it lasted! So long!
Mike Rinder says
Huh?
Old Surfer Dude says
This was a tough one. Like me, he was an avid surfer. And surfing now just isn’t the same. I miss him so very much. I believe it was cancer. I don’t know what kind. But, I’ll see him on the other side when I die. Remember, nothing really dies. We just transform.
Mike Rinder says
So sorry for your loss my friend…
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks, Mike. It’s still hard to think he’s gone.
Aquamarine says
OSD, what are you talking about? I don’t understand your comment. Please explain.
Old Surfer Dude says
It was a bad day for me. I had a friend that passed away. It was just one of those days. My apologies to Mike & Aquamarine. Sometimes I can get into a fuck…ummmm…I mean funk.
Balletlady says
So sorry OSD….one of my BFF’s passed away from cancer 6 years ago…I miss her every day….it’s so sad for those who grieve their loss
When my time comes, I hope at the very least I’d be able to “shoot the curl” through some of those BIG FLUFFY CLOUDS. Hey OSD…I’ll look for you up there way down the road…I’m bringing my decades old ” Long Board”….
aquamarine says
No apology necessary, OSD. I am so sorry for the loss of your beloved friend.
Kronomex says
You’ve been doing the fish slapping dance and lost?
On a serious note however; “So long!”?
Old Surfer Dude says
No. I was just in a funk. But thanks for thinking about me. I appreciate it.
Rip Van Winkle says
Referring to earlier post on making out? Got slapped?
Next time try it with flowers.
Old Surfer Dude says
I’ll probably still get slapped.
Idle Morgue says
We love you Old Surfer Dude. Don’t leave us. It would not be the same here without you. You are a stable datum to Mike’s Blog. LOL 😉
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks Idle. My Surfer pal is gone. When I heard the news, I couldn’t stop crying. He was my best pal.
aquamarine says
God, that’s awful, OSD. What a tremendous loss for you. I’m so sorry.
Chuck J. says
When I see vultures like Tim Edwards and whatzisname Bragin on the RPF I’ll believe the no regging.
Aquamarine says
Bragin…couldn’t stand that guy! What a smug jerk! He even LIKED being disliked. It was almost a badge of honor for him that he was disliked and dreaded.
Tory Christman says
A *huge* reason for “no regging” was Attorney Graham Berry taking
“dave” via Moxon to the cleaners for gross financial crimes. Congratulations to all who helped expose this! Tick Tock! 🙂
Wynski says
Tory, when did Moxon get criminally prosecuted?
Tory Christman says
I did not say Moxon was criminally prosecuted.
The “church” of Scientology has been doing actions that are
financially totally wrong.
They know they are wrong as they have PAID PEOPLE BACK THOUSANDS OF $$$$. Ask Graham if you want more specifics.
They still owe, per Hubbard’s policy, many, many people (self included) skillions of $$$. But that is another issue.
Wynski says
“I did not say Moxon was criminally prosecuted.”
“Attorney Graham Berry taking “dave” via Moxon to the cleaners for gross financial crimes. ”
No one gets taken anywhere for crimes in legal terms except in criminal court. If it was a civil action it was for a TORT.
There are four elements to tort law: duty, breach of duty, causation, and injury. In order to claim damages, there must be a breach in the duty of the defendant towards the plaintiff, which results in an injury. The three main types of torts are negligence, strict liability (product liability), and intentional torts.
Smersh Merch says
Maybe this is a signal for a whole new PR strategy for scientology
No Breaking Apart Families
No Brainwashing
No Pet Murdering
No Protecting Rapists
No Terrorism
No Staff Beatings
No Wife Kidnapping
No Blackmail
No PI Stalking
No Informing
No Government Infiltration
No Slavery
But then, there’d be No scientology
Old Surfer Dude says
Is it ok to make out?
Aquamarine says
Exactly, Smersh!
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Isn’t an event without regging illegal or something? ‘Course, they COULD be lying and registrars will be out in full force.
scientologists lie, must lie, can’t not lie; otherwise the whole house of cards falls dead flat, emphasis on dead.
Todd Cray says
I would have liked to hear the bit about “Revealed — A hidden plan for UK schools.”
I wonder what it means? Is it another tale of evil to be perpetrated on schools by psychs, wogs, media, or the boogie man? In that case, it will hardly be news or even a “revelation” as every possible conspiracy theory has already been trotted out and fund-raised with.
Or were they “revealing” their own “hidden plan” about how to infiltrate UK schools with their “religion?” A new front group, perhaps? Maybe, if we were to fix his teeth and change his name to M Rob Hobbit, would those wogs still catch on? Perhaps, a name change to Diarrhetics would make the book sound like it has an actual practical application and would cover our tracks. No one would ever catch us…
Loosing My Religion says
Todd. Laughing. I think they say no regging. But then they push all possible buttons and in the end ask for your spontaneous contribution. A briefing doesn’t give stats. They will ask money one way or another.
Once in Germany I was told by OSA that I couldn’t reg people from stage because the authorities… I don’t remember.
So I found a smart way to do it, it worked and I wasn’t violating anything.
Poor me for all the times and ways I helped this cult to rise money.
Russ says
I was at LA org a while back, fairly soon after the all-sea-org staff came on. I was downstairs waiting to see ethics, and I noticed a very odd thing on their org’s stat graphs. They had an income in the three to five hundred thousand dollars a week range, going back several weeks. But they had their weekly approved financial planning posted, and it showed they were only allowed one thousand dollars for all the expenses they were allowed that week. i wonder why there was such disparity between those numbers, and the only theory I can think of is this; maybe they are counting all the theoretical income they get from training other org’s staff in their ideal system, but they’re not actually getting those payments from the other orgs?
Cindy says
Yes you hit the nail on the head. DM knows exactly what goes on but if called out on it, claims he didn’t know and that he fired the ones doing those horrible things. He knew and approved and then sacrifices a few heads on a pike and then rinse and repeat.
But I think Flag might be where it started, when the Basic Books thing was pushed. Staff were given unreal quotas and told they couldn’t go home to bed until they met their quota. So out of desperation they became criminal. Selling to dead people who still had money on account, selling to public who had said no and they took money off their account anyway, telling public to buy lots of pkgs and they’d help them sell them to others (never happened), all sorts of criminal stuff. If you can watch the Hy Levy interview about it, he gives a great account of how things were and how he was the only whistle blower at Flag calling them out on their criminal actions regarding basics books pkgs. He was threatened for it too.
Loosing My Religion says
This guy is really a sociopathic.
He doesn’t care about staff who gave for free their lifes to serve a scam for ‘eternity’ .
Scn should increase “affinity” but Dave Michey Mouse has the same affinity of a snake when hunting and the trust that Stalin had for his subordinated.
Sure that he already planned how to save his ass one day things will fall down.
I really hope he gets arrested and sent to jail.
With real ‘wogs’ criminals so he can try to apply some ProTrs stuff and see how it works.
WhatWall says
One of several incidents that put a crack in my Scn bubble. A CLO Basics Book reg called my 17-year old son (cold call). Whe the reg found that my son had no money, she started encouraging him to take out a credit card and started the process. My son had no job and was still in high school!!!
Mary Kahn says
Then there was the additional crime of the torture staff and Sea Org members were put through to make quotas. One Sea Org member ripped off my credit card without my permission because he was so desperate to get some sleep. He paid me back from money his wife had and when I asked him why, he said he was so desperate that at that moment he didn’t care about future consequences.
Ronn S says
Wow. Hard to think back on but yes it was (is) that insane. If you were on finance lines it was a pressure cooker and life generally sucked. Win, good job. Next.
Aquamarine says
Wow. That’s some story, Mary. At least – have to say – at least you were lucky that the SO who did this to you admitted it afterwards, and paid you back. But that’s a low bar, I know. Very low. That he would even think of doing such a thing is so wholly wrong, so not in keeping with the Sea Org’s PR of being The Most Ethical People On The Planet. Still if it had to happen, you were lucky, I suppose. Pathetic that I’m even saying that, certainly, but, then, this is the cult we’re talking about. In this den of thieves he was George Washington 🙂
Skyler says
This is the kind of story that enrages me more than most any other. The only kind that I find more troublesome involves imprisoning someone under the pretense of doing something good.
I sure do hope your son was able to shed some light on this *horrible name calling here* and that he wound up getting both barrels of an effective justice system. Were you able to provide him with some guidance and/or other kind of help to put this bastard behind bars?
ISNOINews says
Tony Ortega has reported that at PAC Base the last two years there has been a “stable and consistent” “change in regging behavior” to, at most, “light” and “respectful” regging at major events. See:
https://tonyortega.org/2018/07/23/eyewitness-report-scientologys-la-orgy-of-praise-for-the-new-tv-network/
https://tonyortega.org/2018/12/24/we-got-a-correspondent-into-scientologys-new-years-event-saturday-in-los-angeles/
https://tonyortega.org/2019/10/29/scientology-threw-its-annual-ias-party-on-l-ron-hubbard-way-and-once-again-we-had-a-mole/
There was no regging at the most recent New Year’s event in Los Angeles:
https://tonyortega.org/2019/12/16/scientology-celebrated-new-years-eve-on-saturday-and-once-again-we-had-someone-there/
There was also no regging at the most recent LRH Birthday event in Los Angeles:
https://tonyortega.org/2019/03/20/an-eyewitness-report-from-scientologys-lrh-birthday-event-saturday-in-los-angeles/
Likewise, there was no regging at the PAC Base Scientology TV season premiere party on L. Ron Hubbard Way:
https://tonyortega.org/2018/10/09/what-it-was-like-last-night-at-scientologys-los-angeles-tv-season-premiere-party/
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Loosing my Religion says
It’s obvious.
All this obsessive regging broke everyone’s boxes and this started to create a situation where people really can’t take it anymore.
Event = regging
Event = regging
EVENT (always) = REGGING! Really
A = A = A!
That’s enough!!!
Skyler says
There is a young man who posts some articles on his own web site as well as other web sites.
He tells the story of insane, viscious reges and how they operated on him. I sure do wish I saved the link. His story was just heartbreaking. Lemme see if I can find it.
Oh darn! I can’t find any links just now. But he is a gay young man who suffered terribly at the hands of several reges and he produced a two hour video on Youtube and he also has a web site in which he calls himself and his husband some thought-provoking name. I sure do wish I could remember his name. I almost broke down in tears after watching his story on Youtube.
Is there any chance that someone here might remember his name? He was about 24 years old when he created that video and his husband was a good deal older. He described in great detail how the reges would torment him endlessl to find a way that he could give them money but all the ways they suggested were essentially illegal and were little more than just finding criminal ways to get money from his credit cards so that he would go into bankruptcy just to get the scam more money?
Would anyone remember his hame?
Fitzroy Lyons says
I believe you’re referring to Steven Mango maybe? https://youtu.be/LfKqOUMrCw8
Cre8tivewmn says
Steve Mango mangotology
RoseMarie says
His name was Steve Mango. FYI
richardb42 (formally secretNonBeliever) says
I was at the New Year’s 2019 event at my local (decrepit) org and there was no regging. The food was ok too!
It was my first (dragged there by my gf) and I was so impressed by all the great accomplishments of that year.
Peggy L says
Loved the analogy about the headaches. I used to get horrible headaches and I told my dr. that the only good thing was it reminded me how good it felt when it was gone. So, maybe this pause in the cause will remind people how good it feels to not be pressured into something they found they sure are better off without. Hopefully they will choose to get rid of the pain.
PS, I found out it wasn’t something I ate that gave me the pain, it was something I was married to.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Peggy L:
1) good for you, releasing your headache back into the wild where he’ll likely hook up with someone not as sweet and forgiving as you were; I had my own episode of that about 30 years ago: As a result,I got myself a real keeper, the Ex-, last I heard(we have friends in common), she wasn’t having much luck in life.
Peggy L says
Well jere, life had a way of giving me so much more than I ever expected to have. No regrets about the ex because I wouldn’t have the wonderful daughter I have, but I have a great life, more than I ever dreamed. I got a real keeper too 🙂 Does it ever seem to you like it was a lifetime ago that you were in that dark place? Really, I rarely think about it. Maybe when I first read here about the fair gaming and I thought geeze, yes, I get what that is!
No, the ex’s life didn’t bring him the $$$$$ he though he would be entitled to with the new gal, and I have heard (from his family who are all really nice to me including his new gal’s family) that he had some regrets, but……BOO HOOO BUTT HEAD LOL. That wasn’t nice was it?
Old Surfer Dude says
I released my headache back into the wild once. But it found me. Those headaches can really be a bitch. You don’t know when they’re pop up on you.
Kronomex says
The following from Mr. Ortega’s latest “Source Code” is guaranteed to give anyone a massive headache.
““I found out that it makes it tremendously easier to run the bank and that on a very few PCs you will be unable to run the bank unless you get an early engramic incident out of the road. And I also found out that if you can run the overt engram that relates to these GPMs just as an engram, that a fantastic amount of charge will come off the implants themselves, naturally, and therefore they run like-very much like hot butter. I had a little bulletin for you. Found a datum here you might be interested in. That particular outfit was down toward the center of this particular galaxy and was founded at 52 trillion, 863 billion, 10 million, 654 thousand, 79 years (52,863,010,654,079), and I can’t give you a much closer than that, because when place get founded is, more or less becomes part of their lies. But it was founded at that time, and it was destroyed on the date 38 trillion, 932 billion, 690 million, 862 thousand, 933 years ago (38,932,690,862,933), by the 79th wing of the 43rd battle squadron of the galactic fleet. It was not the, part of the galaxy. It was a wildcat activity sitting there. They used to drag Magellanic Clouds out of the center hub of the galaxy, let them follow the lines of force and just let them come over a system. Then when they got around to it, they’d send planes in with speakers, and so forth, and give the place the business. But the place very often was totally caved in for thousands of years by these Magellanic radioactive clouds which would just engulf the particular system. You got the idea? I just give you that in brief, just as a matter of interest, because these dates we’re getting are accurate. I have now compared them up the track and squared them around. These are the dates.” — L. Ron Hubbard, May 16, 1963”
It left my eyes hurting and brain throbbing with a headache and desperately wanting to see Gumby Brain specialist (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nedgv). And the sheepbots are expected to believe the rantings and ravings of arguably one of the worst pulp hacks I know of. Even The Donald doesn’t lie as much about himself as did Tub O’Lard.
Zee Moo says
Graham Berry has fought the good fight for a long time, I worship him from afar. While ‘officially’ the hammer has come down, you know that the greedy will just be more careful about who they scam. The scam is not only built in, it is required.
I would so like to see a Berry initiated lawsuit asking for damages in the 3 or 4 cases that have been publicized in the last few years. May my postulates come to pass.
Cindy says
I second your motion! Love Graham Berry too.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Zee Moo:
From your keyboard to Xenu’s screen…. May it come to pass sooner than later.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Zee Moo observed:”The scam is not only built in, it is required.”
There is nothing BUT the scam.It’s “scam” all the way down.
Mary Kahn says
Thank God for Graham Barry.
Mat Pesch says
You stated it EXACTLY.
Belynda says
I have thought about this many times over the past couple/three months, i.e., the effect this pandemic is going to have on cults/religions, in general (to my mind, there’s No difference between them). They both depend on frequent/constant reminders and rituals in order to keep their adherents indoctrinated. Without this structured discipline, it all falls apart . . . . . glad to hear that $’s already feeling the effects! Here’s to many more being similarly affected in the near future.
PeaceMaker says
I wonder what it says that they have to promise no regging, just to try to entice people to log on to a webinar? They don’t even have people in a room where the can have staff block the doors if they want – but are members still intimidated by the threat of ethics punishment if they log off before they’re allowed to?
Every little tidbit out of the bubble is interesting to hear, but I hope we get an insider or defector who can recount more of the details of just what’s going on, before long – and if things are really deteriorating, we should. I’m sure that Scientology is spinnning frenetically, as always, trying to maintain control, but they’re facing all sorts of circumstances not covered in their playbook – particularly no longer having physica (milieu) control of active members, plus many of them (staff included) facing very hard financial conditions that it’s impossible to be wishfully “unreasonable” about.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
The advantage to the clapping clams of a webinar is that the power can mysteriously be interrupted if a reg gets too insistant. AND if it gets too booring, they can duck out without anyone noticing.
For us, it means we have something to mock when the video goes public. It’ll never bring in eaw (raw) meat, and hardly will make any clams more tightly enslaved; viewers will see in it what they believed before, most likely.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Peacemaker, they don’t have to “log out”; their computer need merely ‘act up’, causing the connection to drop. Quitting the program without logging out will cause that effect. They can blame it on the “blue screen of death” in most cases, and they “can’t” replace the DB P.O.S. until they’ve caught up in their IAS levels.
Believe or Else says
“Of course, changes like this ONLY come as a result of external exposure and pressure.”
Thank you Mike for providing a large quantity of pressure to expose this criminal organization. Thank you for providing a comment section where victims of this cult can share their stories of mental, physical and financial abuse.
Today, exposure. Tomorrow, extinction.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
‘Tis amazing that a little site at the “Fringes” of the InterWebZ can bring so much pressure to bear on the “most happenin’ ‘church’ of the 21st Century” (not).
Roger Larsson says
The way to hell can be happy but the arrival is unhappy. The ones engaged in the way to happiness are blind for the arrival to hell.
George M. White says
Very good post, Mike. You have a handle on Scientology’s pulse. I never imagined that this trend in Scientology would happen but I do believe more firmly now that it is a result of Hubbard’s outdated policies. He formed Scientology not knowing about the Internet and now his policies do not work in a virus environment. To use a Wall Street analogy, it is a great time to sell Scientology stock forever.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Did you mean “It’s a great time to short-sell scn stock forever!”, George? It’s “stock” has been declining steadily in value and ‘prestige’, sometimes precipitously.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
For those not familiar with the “biz”, savvy traders will sell a stock they “know”/see is going to decline in value QUITE aggressively, including selling shares they “borrow” (at a cost) from others. Eventually, they have to buy and return the stock, but at greatly reduced cost. The best time to do so is just before the bottom falls out of its value. Sadly, there’s nothing like the SEC to prosecute Lil’ Davey’s propping up scn’s “apparent” value with all his false claims and even falser stats. In the Securities & Exchange (SEC)’s arena, he’d be guilty of a few laws and quite a few regulations, with no defense against the charges. Sadly, his claim of religion isolates him from prosecution in most all instances of his misbehavior and criminality.
It’s GOOD to be “the Pope” and no one can naysay you.
George M. White says
Yes but I thought what do you do when a stock hits zero.