And this is their write-up. Just sad on so many levels. Not the least of which is that the IAS is so proud of this they turned it into a promo piece so everyone could share this amazing success.
OMG we just did Patron with Honours.
Back story: applied for a loan, loan disapproved, banker says after a couple of impossible solutions, by the way there is a credit card on file here from a long time ago that’s never been activated for the exact amount you are asking for. I had no idea I even had this card. If I get a card like this I usually bin it. We don’t use CCs. To make the cycle happen before Thursday 2pm and it’s now 15 mins before shut off point, I had to activate the card then locate the card for the ccv number. I just thought about where I might have put this and I went straight to it. I’d put it with other similar items. Now the card could be run by IAS office AOSH ANZO. The card was declined so I called the bank and the security Falcon had stopped it as they thought it was a suspicious transaction. He said it would take another 20-30 minutes to be reactivated. We didn’t have that time. We tried the card just a few minutes later and it went through with about a minute to spare. This was due to having done CRRD, Super Power and L11. Tone 40 demonstrated.
We did this because our money goes such a long way to providing truth to the 4th dynamic and boy are they screaming out for it. TBH we are in a much Stronger position because we keep moving up the bridge. I’d like to inspire all Scientologists all over the world to support the IAS. It’s not an easy job to do for all concerned. I understand the beautiful consequences of contribution no matter what level and let’s not forget, many hands make light work.
Our love always Craig N Jan Middleton
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Yeah, like when I opened like 6 credit cards in one day to see if we could scrounge up $10,000 for L11 (which we weren’t able to), and then learning later that hubby couldn’t even DO L11 right away, because he had to pay for and find a Clear twin to do the Survival Rundown with again! Still paying for that one, literally! Credit is in the toilet over it.
The most amazing part of that situation was when I was telling the Org Exec Sec about this problem, my bad credit blah blah, they said that from their understanding from the ED, credit is supposed to fluctuate! WHAT. They said it’s good if your credit score goes down, because it will just come back up again! *SMH*
Umm… Good luck with that! No. Credit doesn’t work like that, and I am sorry that your boss is giving you false data (false data stripping to the rescue LOL). And maybe you should stop giving people money advice when your own finances are in trouble to the tune of $100,000 to the “Ideal Building” and being paid nothing while on staff.
IAS = IRS. Well, that’s how I’ve come to equate it. “Give me your money sucker!”
Mike, if you take town the IAS, don’t forget to take down similar scams…
Very, very sad. Im sure the son is involved in the cult too ?
They look so happy and excited!! (I don’t need to add snark brackets, I?)
No words. The COS ad actually reads like parody. Scrambling to make a payment by 2:00 PM Thursday…no fake high pressure sales tactics with this “religion”. I’ll bet the Middletons had to sign a release before “donating” to their “church”. Does anyone else’s church require them to sign a release before making a donation?
– Scientology…a world class high pressure scam operating since 1954.
Their clothes are probably from second hand store, living on crumbs, tired & overworked…so sad. So very sad.
Q: what is the “prize” at the end? Like Christians it’s heaven (or hell), Nirvana, Eden….what’s the end for Scientologist? Another body to come back & do this all over again in a new body? Do you retain these memories or do you start over again with no past memory? Someone stated ” it’s like Groundhog Day..”.
I’m late on commenting. We are now moving into the realm of the walking dead.
Just look in the eyes of these brainwashed, deluded scientologists. He looks like he is ready to cry. She looks like she is ready to kill. These are not happy people.
Thank you Mike for continuing to expose the masssive fraud being perpetrated by this criminal organization. I witness exploitation of members I know almost every day.
It’s painful to watch. I’m very familiar with how much IAS money is actually used to bring peace and prosperity to this planet. It mostly funds Miscaviges, lifestyle, lawyers, ineffective PR campaigns and occasional property acquisitions.
One thing I noticed. The big lie from regs that the money I donated would come back to me 10x never happened. What happened was more debt and thousands of dollars a year going out to Interest on debt.
Scientology is the organization that keeps on taking and taking and taking until you die.
They look so sad and desperate in this photo. Awful.
This reminds me of being back in the days when I was paying more than $500 a month in credit card payments, not one penny of this was for personal expenditure, it was all for scientology donations, and yet still they tried to come after me for even more money. Every time you felt you created a little bit of a spare money they were hounding you for it, hardly any wonder that I never got much out of scientology, far too much stress at being so deeply in debt the whole time.
I hear you. I’m still paying off credit card debt incurred while in the cult. The interest is really a killer.
Got to wonder….How many of these people commit “Bank Fraud” to….keep scientology working??
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/06/26/can-we-talk-about-bernie-sanders-wife-being-under-fbi-investigation-n2345970
Quick! Someone call the FBI !
Seriously, it’s probably just a fake picture and fake story . Scientology is sinking they’re so desperate that they’re making up stories like people are still interested,,, NOT!!!!
The Internet and social media are working against Scientology now, not to mention what Mike , Leah,Tony and a countess army of people who have shined the light on them!! D.M. Is like a gutter rat staying hidden away,I don’t think his ears could stand to hear the Mighty Roar of the people who want their loved ones back!!!
The brainwashing spell will be broken ,
Mike I’m so proud of you and Leah, you’ve got good caring hearts!!! Thanks for all you do!!!!
OMG! Indeed. Well we all know where they are going…yet another Scientologist heads towards bankruptcy.
Yes it is sad and yes I feel sorry for them, in that they still continue to be tricked into giving it all away…and some more, but seriously…all the millions of people across the planet that now know what a crazy scam Scientology is (thanks to all those that have exposed their crimes to the world – i.e by the likes of Mike, Leah, Tony, Aaron…just to name a few)….
Scientology being one of the biggest Scams that still exists today…you seriously have got to be very very very stupid indeed to financialy fuck yourself over…and with so much enthusiasm to do so!
Annnnd they just confirmed what every victim of COS says COS does in videos on YouTube (re: credit cards) You can’t say people are lying when you inadvertently confirm what they are saying. People do know how to read between the lines.
Well, yes you can continue to say they’re lying, but you exposes yourself futher and look like an even bigger horses ass.
Those poor, poor people. My heart goes out to them, it really does.
The saddest thing about this is that they probably weren’t forced; I mean I could be wrong but to me they just look like two gung ho run o th mill believing Scientologists who were happy to pay. Either that or it’s an invented anecdote with a random photograph to inspire Scientologists to think like that.
Not forced? How about misled?
Nothing would happen if the donation wasn’t given (except they might be in much better financial shape). Nothing would happen to them if the donation did not occur before 2 PM on Thursday. But they believed it would.
Who would invent an anecdote for publication that pretty much spells out a classic high-pressure scam?
“Spreading truth on the 4th dynamic” should take all their money? Pffff.
Exactly. Scam artists don’t force. They mislead and the victim willingly cooperates based on a delusion.
Make no mistake about it Robin, they were heavily pressured to “up their status.” Nobody, but nobody, ever willingly gives to the IAS unless pressured to do so.
If there’s a positive note in this; it appears from their expressions in the photo that they may be open to an intervention about the Church.
Quite true, Carl, but then, these people are also deluded. They give because they are told their gift to the IAS is making a DIFFERENCE in the world. They give because they believe, wrongly, that when they give they are HELPING. In legal terms this is called “fraud” and if it occurs in amounts over $1000 across state lines, the FBI gets it as a case. But the cult gets away with fraud every minute of every day because they are a recognized “religion”.
OMFG indeed. I honestly felt physically sick reading that. I had to read it a couple of times for it to sink in. Looking at the picture of the Middletons is heartbreaking. They look far from happy – he looks broken. They have been well and truly conned. I can imagine the conversation : “sorry, but we really can’t afford this”. “Yes, yes, you can! You must….. Look, look, you have an inactivated credit card! Use that. If you don’t pay the debt off in this body’s lifetime, you still have the next 20 bodies to do so!”
Financial rape at its very best.
One word:
Undue influence.
While we can all agree that this was a stupid thing to do (and with encouraging other victims to be victimised, part of an actively evil scam), I think that it’s the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology which is the perpetrator here. Craig and Jan have been put under all kinds of pressure(1) that would be illegal – even in the US – if any organisation without “church” in the name exerted it.
(1) is this donation the result of an “ethics cycle,” is it something that happens just before they finally get to see their kids in the Damnation Navy, or is it something one of them decided to be better than divorce?!?
OMFX
(Oh My Fucking Xenu)
Just when you think Scientology can’t get any worse….
It does!
Idle Morgue – my exact thoughts…
It is fucking disgusting! The way COS sucks the life out of everyone that joins.
Does anyone find it overly coincidental this couple had and inactivated credit card for EXACTLY the amount they needed? Is this “thing” of an organization actually capable of tampering with your personal finances this way? “OMFG” is actually being polite.
Yeah I noticed that too. That was really embellishing an already sad and effed up situation. How convenient it was the EXACT amount.
There is a small part of me that feels sorry for them.
The rest of me is pure schadenfreude.
Such a sad,sad story…
According to their website they would be in their early 50’s by now(?) so no doubt they will be working well after retirement age to pay for this and all the other extortionate demands placed upon them by the cherch. A lovely little family business ruined by Co$ – let’s just hope it’s not the family that is ruined. 🙁
http://www.middletonscleaning.com.au/
Good Morning All
I just looked at their company website (thanks for the link, KiwiGal) OMG the “scion stare” on their faces, like there were somewhere else, very far away. I hope they can come back before they are completely broke & broken by the Co$
Maybe it’s just that the 1st cup of coffee hasn’t taken effect but what is a Body Corp?
Cheers
Rob
A Body Corporate (or Body Corp) is made up of a collective of unit owners, within a unit title development. Unit titles are a common form of ownership of a multi-unit complex and can include properties like apartments, townhouses, car parks, industrial units, and commercial offices. 🙂
KiwiGal, thanks for the link to their website. This is so so sad. They are a hard-working family business, cleaning windows. They should not be giving their money to the CofS, at this point in their lives, they should be saving for their retirement, or helping their son. I was hoping they were somehow independently wealthy and wouldn’t miss this money, but the truth is sad. To work hard their whole lives and end up broke and in debt, paying off credit cards due to an IAS donation. I only hope they will see the ‘analytics’ on their website, wonder why views are coming from this site all of a sudden, and follow the link back here to Mike’s blog and read these comments. Or maybe someone can email them the link?
For what it’s worth, I did much the same thing because I thought it was for the greatest good. and, years later, I am still paying it off.
Mimsey
In a way so am I, I could have repaid our mortgage by now if it were not for my involvement in scientology, instead I concentrated every spare bit of money we had to getting rid of the scientology debt on credit cards , at least they are gone now.
I don’t think you can ever really wash the stain of Scientology completely off.
The IAS encourages (pressures) people to do stupid and risky financial transactions, as long as the results wind up in the coffers of the IAS. Believe me, when the credit card bill comes due, the IAS reg who got this couple to donate will be long gone, and if this couple asks for the money back or attempts to cancel the transaction, it will result in an SP declare.
The IAS also tells the sheeple that they can’t get up the bridge without making “4th dynamic” (mankind/humanity) contributions such as this one. The IAS tells the sheeple that this is how they should “get their exchange in with LRH”. IAS vulture registrars like Michael Roberts/Jeff Pomerantz/Howard Becker (The IAS Troika) take it one step further and say that the honor statuses make up the “IAS Grade Chart” and that people can make “4th dynamic case gain” just by donating money to the IAS; no need to go in session.
Shades of the Catholic Church! Buy your way to Heaven! GUARANTEED! HA! This really DOES read like SATIRE! > sad <
Like me … she may well temporarily stuff down feelings with food.
If I may judge by appearances.
I’m sorry but to me this story seems like just that a Story for the few who might just happen to be broke but might find a card they forgot about anyway I’m surprised Scn hasn’t come out with there own CC’s & bilk more money from ppl if that’s possible,I’d Love to know what really all that money/donations goes for the Truth…
Mike I hope,wish your family a wonderful 4th hope you have fun…:)
One version of the Sci CC – the regs tell them they have found another Scientologist who will Loan them the money.
The IAS troika! Love it! I also like that you named names. Those vultures should be named and exposed!
I’m sure there was a huge sigh of relief when their loan got turned down. Phew!
Oh well, foiled again, you two.
Funny, I can do the same exact thing without having done Super Power and L11.
Big ole fish in a teeny tiny pond. I guess that’s why they call them whales.
As a never in, this document is almost unreadable, because of all the cult jargon. IAS, AOSH ANZO, CCRD, Tone 40…. I assume the ad is just for the clams…
I wonder if I showed it to my delusional family members if it would snap them out of their LRH comas, or if, like whoever made this ad, they would find it inspiring and convincing….
Hail Mike, Leah, and Tony! May you be empowered and encouraged in exposing the Truth! May you succeed in preventing new membership in the cult of $cientology! May you enlighten the entranced! May you awaken those in delusions of “clarity”! May the cult fail, may it fall, may it crumble to a million pieces! May all minds be free! So Mote It Be!
HAHA! Merry Meet!
“… and let’s not forget, many hands make light”… WALLETS!
There is no spirituality in scientology, none whatsoever.
There is no fun in scientology.
There is no hope in scientology.
There is no kindness in scientology.
All the lurkers still in, look at the four points above and ask yourself if you agree or not. Only you can decide.
If you want out, there is help available to you.
I am a never-in who’s become obsessed with this disgusting “religion” since watching Going Clear and of course Leah and Mikes show Aftemath. This appears to be a mafia like organization that extorts money from people with the threat of disconnection or loss of family, friends , security, job or eternity! I’ve been reading these blogs for awhile now and I am so impressed with those of you who have made it thru the dark and into the light. You are all an inspiration! And Mike, you are a fine man of the highest caliber!
Steven Spielberg has made it a life’s mission to record the stories of Holocaust survivors. I think it would be helpful if there were a site that people could just tell of their experiences in the cult of Scientology.
It’s my first time posting here and all I can say is keep up the great work everyone!
What an awesome idea, Sandy! In fact, I can see multiple ways to utilize such a compilation. It would make a fascinating book. It reminds me of the books I’ve read of interviews with former slaves, that were diligently recorded in the 1920s. First hand accounts are gold for historians….
Also, a brave person might make a pamphlet of just one story, and start handing it out to the SO folks they meet. “I’ll read yours, if you read mine.” Wouldn’t that be an awesome way to help people leave the cult? You wouldnt even have to risk being fair gamed; you could hire PIs to hand them out! … I would be willing to bankroll such an effort.
There are already several websites with recorded tales. Xenu.net, ESMB (ex-Scientologist message board), scientology-cult.com, tonyortega.org, ex-scientology kids, critical thinker at large, surviving scientology, to name a few
If all of America knew of this ongoing drama, they would cancel their Netflix to focus on it. Not only dramatic and compelling reality, but a re-embracing of Reality … which, considering our recent election, America needs desperately!
Oh to apply Chris Shelton level logic to our body politic!
When the people get out of Co$ finally, it seems that only connecting with other exes can help them get a picture of WTH happened!
Being unable to discuss their situations with others EVER until they are OUT!
‘OH! That’s why that happened!’ ‘Oh! She told me the opposite!’
Oh! Wait ’til you hear what I know!’ ‘No, it’s true, I was a witness!’
Sooooo much much … the story … more words than LRH ever wrote might be required to tell this monster of a real story.
After seeing their picture and reading their “testimonial”, the words ‘extortion, coercion and under duress’ immediately come to mind.
It sucks and it is the saddest thing but nobody put a gun to their head (I know they dont need to bec their minds are in prison) to make them pay up. I know mind control is just brutal but there is a hrd sell but nothing more – nothing legally can be done when people say “sure” to putting themsleves in debt.
“OT” Bilking.
Happy Bilked Dupes/”OTs” that wish others to be bilked.
On one hand I feel so sorry for this couple. Their credit was already not good demonstrated by the bank’s refusal of a loan. So now they’ve put themselves into even more debt for what? That money will be used on THEM when they are “fair gamed” after they realize this “church” is nothing but a money making scam.
But on the other hand, in the last paragraph of their write-up they are ENCOURAGING others to do the same thing!
How can the regges NOT see what’s going on and still believe in this shit? Someone said above that there’s even a policy letter saying to not handle finances like this. Aren’t they required to follow policy? KAW – Keep Aftermath Working all!
It’s my understanding that policy is for you to not hold back any wealth. Lucile Bosche, my longtime partner in business before disconnecting from me after I dared question Miscavige, actually did not deny it when I asked was it okay to hide millions from Scientology. She was a preclear after 7 years as a public as they took her thru past lives to g eat her money first, but I was shocked she said scientologists are supposed to be all the way in and be willing to give up everything. Maybe someone can clarify? What is policy?
Diamond, you are correct. Many many years ago “policy” went by the boards if it didn’t support Mi$cavige’s ideas of how to soak money out of the minions. The free Scientology Centers don’t exist anymore, although LRH established them in Div. 6’s to help those who couldn’t pay.
Parishioners are no longer required to go see a legit MD for physical trouble or illness they are seeking help for, although LRH wrote policy on this. (If this one simple policy were applied 100% Lisa MacPhearson might be alive today.) Heaven forbid what if the doctor found a physical ailment that needed to be addressed immediately? That’s right….no immediate income for $cientology. So let’s get rid of that stupid policy, right?
There is NO LRH policy about soliciting donations from parishioners without providing a product or service in exchange, such as courses, auditing or books and other materials. As a matter of fact, he discusses that donations are NOT the way to gain income, and churches should make sure they are delivering excellent service and receive legitimate recompense for those services…not try to do side shows, baby-sitting, raffles, games and other foolishness for income when auditing and training, when done right, does bring very good results and plenty of income.
Additionally the fees charged these days for that auditing and training are out the roof, completely unaffordable for most people. When I started, I paid $1,250.00 for ALL the Academy training. It’s probably over $20,000 now. When I started, one auditing intensive (12.5 hours) was $625 at the MOST, depending on how much you purchased at a time. Now it’s what…$10,000?
This tells you that the Regges around these days were not there in the beginning and have no idea what has gone down and how things have changed. If they were told these things they would say it’s lies, right? And, if there are old-timers still regging and buying into this criminality, they are unfortunately very long gone and fingers and toes crossed that they can figure out a way to escape fast. If they still have half a brain that is thinking somewhat sanely.
Yes….Keep the Aftermath Working! Because this bastardization of scientology sure isn’t!
Gato rojo, it’s not the same group it was say, 40 years ago. Very different. A bizarro version of itself.
Gato Rojo said: “This tells you that the Regges around these days were not there in the beginning and have no idea what has gone down and how things have changed.”
When I became a Scientologist in the late 70’s, regges (registrars) used high pressure tactics to sell The Bridge to Total Freedom. They even helped people get new credit cards or increase spending limits on the ones they had. It’s true that they didn’t have the IAS, Ideal Org projects, etc. to sell but they sold what they had HARD.
Required reading for every registrar was Les Dane’s book, “Big League Sales Closing Techniques”:
https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/big-league-sales-closing-techniques-scientologys-ecclesiastical-sales-manual/
The registrars would go easy on the newbies but once you had a few courses under your belt, they would lean on you hard to buy big dollar packages (e.g., Clear package, OT III package). Flag registrars pushed the notoriously expensive L-10, L-11 and L-12 (special Flag-only rundowns).
Gato Rojo mentioned that he bought his Academy training package for $1,250 but didn’t say when. If bought in 1965, that $1,250 is worth almost $10,000 in today’s dollars. If purchased in 1975, it’s almost $6,000. 1980 dollars would be worth about $4,000 today. Still not cheap.
One thing has changed for sure: The money extracted from Scientology’s parishioners now ends up in Miscavige’s coffers instead of in Hubbard’s.
Craig – the loan was disapproved. Didn’t that tell you something?
Every thing about this is so wrong.
Crediting CRRD, Super Power and L11 as the reasons why they ‘made it go right’ is even sadder. You don’t need any of these to find a credit card and max it out.
Just look at the photo – the guy looks like he’s thinking ‘what the hell have I just done!!’ He does not look like a happy, winning individual in charge of his life.
Thanks for sharing this Mike – always good to see the latest insanities coming out of the CofS…
This promo piece from the “church” will be used as one exhibit in the multiple exhibits as evidence to yank their tax exempt status.
I am happy to see that David Miscavige approved this piece. He might be the ultimate “SP” or counter-espionage agent in helping to bring down scientology. Well done David, I applaud you!
Scientology is simply a money fleecing scheme. The tower is collapsing.
Yes, he looks bullied. He’s forcing that teeny-tiny smile. His wife is better at it than he is. I bet that photo and poster is their “reward” for forking over all that money. Craig N Jan Middleton, GET OUTTA THERE! Just GO, while you still have whatever you do have left. There are many of us out here who will help and support you. You know your gut is telling you that you just f**ked yourselves over…why stick around for more! Your hard-earned money is NOT going to the projects you think it is. Really! A couple hundred of us out here already know that. Some of us even “helped” set up the campaigns to rip you gullible public off. And we couldn’t take it anymore so we got the hell out. WHY stick around for any more??
Scientology died some 35-40 years ago. From then on it has been. Keeping Miscavology Working. Tone 40.
Correction Alex; Scn died LONG before that, right about the SHSBC period. It didn’t start to die with DM, but with LRH himself.
Oh this is so nuts. Destroying your own present and future with crushing debt, at the behest of a group that claims it is looking out for your “eternity”. This is one of the things that opened my eyes that CoS doesn’t follow their own doctrine. There is even a policy letter specifically explaining not to handle finances like this, but the regges constantly push people beyond what they can possibly afford, and into the downward spiral. I wish I could shake these folks back into reality.
OMFG ,so right! They don’t even see this? Absolutely amazing. I would hope a few may spot this as ridiculous and way out-ethics.
My second thought on this comes from Aristophanes: “Youth ages, Immaturity outgrown, Ignorance educated, Drunkedness sobered, But stupid….. Stupid lasts forever.”
great quote…I always say that G-d must love stupid people: He made so many of them! I am no genus; but I started talking about the out ethics of the “wasband” (a reg for LI Org, etc.) and it slowly but surely dissolved our relationship.
Ha ha. Sad??? Dislike me if you must, but I absolutely FREAKING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!
Just woke up at 430 am here in the mountains of northwest Thailand, having my first cup of coffee and already this story MAKES MY DAY! Yeah, I’m a terrible guy. But the stories of these idiot marks just make me feel SOOOOO good that I got out after 35 years in, with … yeah, baby, some money IN THE BANK!
The couple above claim to be Clear, etc etc and are veteran Scientologists, so they are informed as to what “the game” is. THEY are the people who keep this scam alive and well. They are not victims, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.
Now here’s my question … so, how long do y’all think it will be before the Middletons get another phone call? (there is always another status to shoot for, you can always put in a little “flow” towards it and send some moolah to Kim Jung Dave for his daily pompadour touch up).
Craig and Jan – enjoy your new “status” while you can … SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe P. asks:
“Now here’s my question … so, how long do y’all think it will be before the Middletons get another phone call? (there is always another status to shoot for, you can always put in a little “flow” towards it and send some moolah to Kim Jung Dave for his daily pompadour touch up).”
My answer would be about the same amount of time it would take a reg to sell an “OT III” package to a newly minted ‘clear’. Once one attains the exalted state of ‘clear’ they find themselves smack dab in the middle of the scary ‘no interference zone’ and they must get through the ‘wall of fire’ asap or all kinds of bad and nasty things will happen.
Apparently the state of ‘clear’ is incredibly unstable and leaves one very vulnerable to one’s ‘OT case’. In reality ‘clear’, just like all auditing, is just a temporary euphoria that soon fades into the sunset. The reason that one has to get through OT III is that the idea of ‘body thetans’ are introduced to explain away all of the magical abilities a ‘clear’ is supposed to have but doesn’t. Since the number of body thetans is virtually infinite, it’s going to take one hell of a long time to handle them and this will keep the ‘pre-OT’ very busy.
Just so with IAS Statuses. One is regged within an inch of their life savings and a new Status is bestowed. One cannot be allowed to linger and bask in the glory of that Status though. So the mark is quickly regged to the next almost impossible level to get them through this sort of IAS ‘no interference zone’. In other words, the mark is kept very busy and very worried about their finances and they won’t have time to actually look to see if their donations are actually accomplishing what was promised. Just as body thetans are unlimited in number, so are the number of dollars one can donate to the IAS.
If all of this looks like a pyramid scheme or a Ponzi scam it is. Hubbard created one of the most successful cons of all time. Like you say Joe, we weren’t victims, we were responsible. I got sucked in because of personal circumstances and the lack of critical thinking skills, I bought scientology hook, line and sinker. I too was able to get out of the cult with some cash in me purse and haven’t looked back. In hindsight, losing the money that I did almost 30 years ago wasn’t really that big of a deal. It was a steep price to pay for those life lessons, but I learned those lessons well. The part that really cost me was the mind fuck that I had to untangle myself from. Life is good, but I’m still working on that one a bit to tidy up a few loose ends.
Joe, do live in or near Chiang Mai? I love that part of the world.
Anyway, you do have a good point.
Should we feel sorry for these people as victims, or should we loath them as enablers of a sick evil?
It’s a very interesting philosophical debate. I suppose the deciding line could be found in the degree of their ignorance of scientology’s evil.
I do indeed live in beautiful Chiang Mai (six years now). I would not characterize Scientology as simply “evil”: I don’t ever regret my 35 years in the CoS, had many great personal wins and lots of fun too. But I do consider that LRH’s megalomania eventually got the best of him and that the CoS slowly but surely has become a Soviet style fascist organization. And yes, I do think that folks who donate their money and support their policies are prime enablers.
I loved Chiang Mai, I was there in 2006 for awhile.
I am surely on your side that the current members can no longer plead ignorance to the crap of scientology anymore, including the whales and “useful idiots” that are called celebrity scientologists.
At some point, in this connected and exposed world of the internet and social media, those still “in” scientology must make a choice…
1. Either remain sick and cruel bastards who are endorsing a destructive and criminal enterprise, and be remembered in history as such…
OR…
2. Get out of scientology.
I also agree with those who think the Middlestons look sad in that picture. They do. Especially Mr. Middleston. So I guess they didn’t even get that very brief euphoric moment of triumph out of it. This is tragic.
They need the “Criminally OverRegged Repair List” or better the “Quit Fast Rundown” (one step, resign this fake scam “church”, and talk Xenu and “body-thetans” exorcism theory to anyone who tries to “handle” them).
And how on earth are they going to feel once they’ve left CofS? VERY wealthy people have been bankrupted by this organization. It’s like there’s a really brief highly euphoric flush of triumph then at 2:01 pm, the clock starts ticking again.
They are never satisfied. The cult’s financial predation makes me think of the Moloch idol with the fiery furnace in it and they keep feeding people to it and it’s never full/satisfied.
Since they borrowed on a credit card, which is unsecured debt, perhaps they won’t lose their home when they can’t make the payments. I know of one couple who, due to Scientology related debt, lost their home to foreclosure. In their 60’s, they had to move to a rental and start over again.
Who knows how many people’s finances have been destroyed by Scientology’s predatory practices? Once financially ruined they think that they “pulled it in” due to their out-ethics and PTSness, so they keep quiet. Even if disaffected and under-the-radar, they are held back from exposing the financial rape due to self-blame, shame, and fear of losing family and/or job.
What kind of “church” installs a mechanism that triggers self-blame and silence in response to being bankrupted by its rapacious religion-cloaked hucksters?
I gave the IAS $40,000 before I achieved the HIGHEST and BEST status of all: ex-Scientologist
Note: If you have a Facebook account and aren’t staying under-the-radar, you can share your opinions, thoughts, experiences, and stories about the IAS “to help inform the decisions of other donors” at the bottom of the Charity Navigator web site’s IAS page (https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.profile&ein=980136012). The Middleton’s success story would make a good post there. 🙂
Thanks for that link. I added my two cent’s worth.
The HIGHEST, SANEST and BEST status of a Scientologist….
Is An
EX Scientologist
The back story tells how they parted with their money, the photo tells how they really feel about it.
I cannot believe the COS would use this for promo.
Beyond pathetic.
Because they obviously don’t give a shit.!!!!
BUT they’re guaranteeing Scientology for eternity!
Hard to read this story. The artificial emergency imposed on these people is sickening. And since when does using a credit card merit a success story?
Happens all day everyday people.
Ummm… Wow. Quite the “success story”. Good for them for “making it go right”… I guess. Hopefully they can Tone 40 their way out of debt also.
I feel like I just watched these folks have black hoods slipped over their head while the noose was already in place, before the hangman pulled the lever and the floor fell out from their feet. Their bodies hang there, necks broken, legs twitching. The hangman takes off his black coat and hood, only to reveal an IAS representative standing there smiling, saying “Whew. Got my stats up just in the nick of time.”
I hope all the energy going into repulsion of the credit card donation post is duplicated by energy to collapse the ch**rch! Looking for ideas to accomplish so my child is liberated!
This has to be a joke. Really…Come. On. ? ?
I am webber517gdw and I left a message on Marty rathburn site that asked Marty if he liked sucking Dave’s dick and he completely changed my message .
What did he change it to say???
Grasshopper had the same experience, he posted about it in his Facebook page. Please do not post another comment. Now they know who toy are.
Dam Valerie I didn’t even think of that. Fuck me.Scientology knows who I am
Luv2luvem he changed it to something about Tony Ortega. Being involved in some sex ring.
Webber517gdw, is that your foot across the line?
My foot? Across what line? Gravitysucks.
Send this article to Marty! Point out that this the type of church he’s supporting…
Marty is well aware of the type of cult he’s supporting. He was the lead enforcer for years.
Valerie can you post a link to Grasshoppers Facebook post?
Marty put his Scientological Blinders back on with Blood Money
People like the Middletons were bankrupted so Marty and Mosey can be comfortable raising a child who has traitors as parents – absolute Scumbags with no integrity!
How sad there are desperate people in this world who are totally blind and will never experience real life!
*(disclaimer: every single bit of scn is harmful, damaging, and brainwashing. No benefit is possible as any and all of it also serves to keep one enslaved and hoodwinked)
But I still “know” it, so here’s what’s what.
Borrowing money violates hubbtards own policy.
There are HCO PLs which specifically forbid an org to “buy on credit” or go into debt. Each week the income must go through the financial planning committee, this small group of org execs then take up the bills and requests for purchases, (purchase orders) and sets aside money according to finance policy. Percentage for management fees, promotion, staff pay, back bills, and so on.
No purchase orders are approved unless the money is there in hand to pay.
No purchases are allowed without an approved purchase order.
Policy is written that if a staff member buys something without a PO they are held personally responsible for the purchase.
…..
As per various tek and policy writings, all of the policy applies to one’s own life as well as an organization. The Life Orientation Course has one write out their own life’s organizing board. The policies all apply.
Therefore no public person can borrow money without violating hubbtard’s own policy. (policy has the same force as the tek, all must be followed 100 percent)
Telling regges that I won’t borrow money because it violates policy is fun.
…..
Those poor deluded bastards. It’s just shameful.
(oh, if I didn’t have to be UTR, wouldn’t I love to tell a few tales of giving regges a run for their money. bwhahaha)
secretfornow, those kinds of policies would make sense and are pretty much commonplace in the real world, but, as we know, the slurch has nothing to do with the real world.
Being a staff member, I was “excused” from a lot of this BS. But I did see people throw away their kids’ savings, retirement accounts, max out credit cards, etc…all the stuff we hear about every day.
Two of my kids and I are lifetime members…maybe we’ll cash out when payback time comes. LOL 😉
“One cannot spend money unless he has it. Never contract bills or debts unless the money is immediately in sight to pay them.” — LRH, HCO PL 3 JUNE 1959, Financial Management
“But most important, I don’t run up bills if I don’t have the cash in sight to pay them.” — LRH, HCO PL 2 June 59 – A Comment on Finance, OEC Volume 3
“Make it before you have to spend it.” — LRH, HCO PL 28 Jan 65, How to Maintain Credit Standing and Solvency, Management Series Volume 3
“Never borrow any money from a bank. Make it.” — LRH, Creating Time and Space – Responsibility, Code of Honor – Part 16, November 1952, Tape #5211C06B
These are the kind of LRH references I would show, back in the day. They meant nothing to the staff. Reading this stuff moved them not one whit. This lead me to suspect that they had been drilled on this type of interaction with a public a great deal, as one would bullbait someone to get them “flat” on the subject (which means that they don’t flinch or get thrown off or react in any way).
Well, that’s fine, but oooh, the irony – if my suspicions were correct – the IRONY of staff having to be bullbaited on LRH finance policies!
Think about it; doesn’t it blow your mind?
thank you. I can no longer refer to materials to quote exactly, I ripped up, recycled, or burned almost 4 decades of scn material. I even toted out my once beloved meter and simply dropped it in the trash can. My insignia, my certs, the whole lot. And I had not ONE shred of hesitation. It was completely dispassionate.
I wish I could erase it from my mind as easily!
The interesting part of this nuttiness, is that the COS folks see this cycle as a win. As in, “We do this sort of thing all the time.”
Yes, and the other sheeple consider them role models. “Spirit of Play”, and all that. Sad.
They don’t look happy to me, they look scared. I am so sad for them.
How much is patron with honors?
$100,000.00
GAAAAAAAHHHHHHH! You’re kidding! Right? Right???!!!!
It may be more than this, just after I completed the Patron 10+ years ago they put all the rates up, I think $100,000 became the Patron amount and with honors was considerably higher. Of course they don’t publicize the amounts any more due to all the negative press it generates.
patron was 20, then 30, then I thought, 40 – I’ve successfully avoided paying so I don’t know. But 100 grand sounds high. They did used to have the amounts listed in the insert into the IAS mag, not in the mag itself, but just in an insert.
(I once bragged to an IAS reg that I got my lifetime when it was still 2 grand, to avoid the yearly 300. They asked me if I was ashamed, and I said, “heck NO!”. haha!
“I just thought about where I might have put this and I went straight to it. I’d put it with other similar items.”
Crikey!! Now they know she has more cards!
The hollow expression in this man’s eyes must be what “coerced control” looks like. It feels devastating to see that even one more person has been duped into destruction.
Their faces. His eyes. ?
I am totally disgusted by their “success story” of giving to the I.A.S. through a credit card one minute before the 2pm deadline. How ridiculous! Did they stop for one minute to think about this? Why the urgent need to do it before 2pm? What would happen if it was say, ten minutes later, or an hour? What difference could it possibly make? Will the world collapse if their donation isn’t recorded by 2 o’clock?
Did they ask, what exactly is this money going to be used for? Or ask: Could I see a chart that shows where the money goes, what percent to what programs? No, they did not.
They have no clue what is being done with their money. Did they consider that if they were turned down for a loan, there is a reason? They can’t afford to give more money!
Why in the world do otherwise intelligent people, fold under pressure to immediately-rush-rush-rush give more money than they can spare to an organization that doesn’t even provide an accounting of what they are doing with their money? Stupid. Wake up people!
By the way, your donations are going to pay for private investigators to follow and harass former members. To buy and sift through their garbage (true story). And lawyers to fight them in court when they request refunds. They spend more on lawyers than they would to simply refund them. Your ‘volunteer ministers’ are a joke, unhelpful and unwanted at scenes of disaster, and the IAS does not pay for their travel expenses, the members do this themselves. So, where are Your I.A.S. donations going?
Alas, if only those poor people at Jonestown had only stopped and asked ” What exactly is in that vat of Kool-aid? “.
Not trying to be funny but just giving an example of what happens when people won’t take the blinders off.
Yes Jonestown was tragic – and remember a third of the people who died were children, who didn’t have a choice. I’ve researched that cult also and apparently Jim Jones had staged mock ‘koolaide drills’ several times before, so that at first some people didn’t know if this was another Jones-style fake ‘ending scenario’ drill. And the conditioning was already in, Jones had methodically removed choice and free will from his people, much as Scientology is able to condition their members to accept what they tell them and what is expected of them. So this Scn couple has already been conditioned to believe it is imperative that they donate this money. In the case of Jonestown, the average person will not do something so radical, but after month and even years of conditioning to believe that they need to follow what the cult leader says without questioning, this is the tragic outcome. This is why all mind-manipulating cults are dangerous.
T.J.!!!!!!!!! You don’t ask these kinds of questions….EVER! EVER! You’ll be accused of having counter-intention to clearing the planet and possibly even called suppressive! You will definitely be sent to Ethics.
Besides, when I was in, I never doubted that the money was funding the uber-important, life-saving, psych-busting, planet clearing activities that the slurch was doing. The thought never ever crossed my mind that those were lies.
T-Marie, you never asked yourself where the money was going? Or why it was so important to donate by 2pm? Or even if the Reg was getting a commission on your donation? Or did you think it inside your head, but were afraid to voice it? Or did you just self-suppress the questions? Really trying to understand the mind-set, thanks! Happy you are out and freeeeeeee! 🙂
T.J. – No, I never did ask myself those questions. Never. The by 2:00 Thursday thing is a “game” we all played. I knew the registrar got a commission. That too is part of the game. That didn’t bother me either. Because all I ever got was propaganda, I just knew the money was being used in the most ethical/moral manner. Never doubted it.
In our little group, we used the money wisely, delivered what we promised and even had a reserve account with plenty of money in it.
But, I was from a smaller city, where our small staff were truly people of goodwill, with good intentions and “WE” didn’t screw people over on a daily basis (at least not in the magnitude of the large organizations).
It wasn’t until we got new management from the Los Angeles area that things started to get really corrupt and I started to realize that it was all about the money for them. Since they were at the highest levels on the “Bridge”, I figured this must be what it’s like at the top.
Insert the internet and some crazy unreal stuff that happened when a young girl “blew” the Sea Organization in L.A. and went home to her family in New Orleans and I, along with a public Scn. was asked to basically “chase” her and make phone calls that she was a suicide risk… WTH? I had NO idea that such things happened in my “church”. No idea.
THAT was the beginning of the end for me. I didn’t want to be a part of this kind of group.
So, what you see is as long as the slurch can keep information away from you, they can fool you. That’s why they work VERY hard to make sure members get zero information from elsewhere.
But, once you get information about what your slurch is actually doing in real life, then I guess it becomes a matter of whether you think you can live with it, change it, or leave it.
I didn’t have family members in the cult that would disconnect from me, so I left it. That was in 1999.
I can’t sit here and say that I would have left so “easily” if I knew family members would disconnect from me or say, if my ex took my kids and disconnected. I also hadn’t invested hundreds of thousands of dollars into the slurch. I only invested 12 years of my time.
A fool and his money…
It’s just less people in my way when I travel on vacations. Sorry Craig N Jan but my 12 day trip to Italy was worth way more to me and I am happier knowing your money goes to the church. It assures me I will never run into people like you when I am visiting these wonderful places.
You and the IAS are actually proud that you went into financial Emergency possibly Danger. OMFG is right.
Here we see the full power of Scientology “tech” in action. Remember all those “success stories” in the “Advance!” magazine in the 1960s and 1970’s? The ones like “I was late for an appointment and hit a red light. So I went exterior and reached into the control box for the street light and pulled the actuator. 20 seconds later, the light turned green. Thanks, LRH!”
Well, here, someone is doing the same thing “I was desperately searching for my last credit card so I wouldn’t get sent up for another 6 intensives of sec checks in Ethics. I went exterior and discovered the credit card where I had buried it in my garden just so I wouldn’t be able to get suckered into using it. I put a $10,000 IAS donation on the card, which will take me 8 years at 29% interest to pay back, but at least it saved me from $75,000 worth of sec checks. Thanks, LRH!”
If that look on their faces was their happy face, I’d hate to see their sad face.
The only possible escape is to file for bankruptcy NOW before the 90 day clock runs and let the court claw back their huge donation to pay back the credit card company or in most cases companies at pennies on the dollar.
I’d like to see a “parishioner” pull that stunt once just to shut down a few vulture regges.
I’m wondering if they have kids or family and how it may cause conflicts which may ripple on down the line. Just more lives ruined… so sad.
I wonder if their children are being held hostage with the threat of disconnection. They certainly don’t look thrilled with their new debt.
I’m clinging to the sliver of hope that the blatant money grabbing ‘ad’ is a sign that Scientology is feeling the effects of the increasing dissemination of information about them and a lack of new, flush recruits. Cause, really, those people are tragic.
Wow! I feel like I just saw someone jump off a cliff.
Yep
My face –> D:
It’s a good thing I’m home alone and the cats don’t care, because the audible groans of dismay and disgust I made while reading that would have required explaining, and—UUUUUGHHH!
Since watching Mary Kahn’s episode on Aftermath, and hearing her tearful words: “They owned me!” I look at these stories through a different filter. Those two are not smiling with their eyes. How much might they have been praying that they wouldn’t find that card; that the transaction wouldn’t go through? How hard were they pressured to write up their “wins” in such a way that portrayed the CoS in the best light? Do they have children that they are “paying” to keep in contact with? I don’t think it’s fair to belittle them given these possibilities.
This story is really, really sad, imo. I think the OMFG says more about the fact that (as others noted) the church thought this was a great example to share.
It is very sad, and I hope for their sake they have other future financial reservoirs (maybe a paid for house, 401k) to fall back on. They look like average, good people, taken in by the dark force.
So true i feel so sick ready it. ?
***reading
Agreed…to hear sweet Mary Kahn say “they owned me”‘ was a heart cruncher….so was hearing Tom D saying about “if ONLY I hadn’t been in CO$”///
The horrific PAIN all of these people feel is like a hot knife through cold butter……nothing has been given to them that they didn’t PAY FOR in one way or another. Nearly everything has been TAKEN AWAY from them….and now some IDIOTS are saying all of these lovely people basically are “making up stories”
To see the PAIN in all of their eyes and in their voices as they tell their stories. To know most of them have been forcibly separated by CO$ from their family members. THIS is “church policy”????
I know of NO Church that tries to separate families, I know of NO church that wishes to cause pain, harm, discomfort to it members OR former members. People LEAVING churches WILLINGLY for a variety of reasons….I’ve done so myself & was NOT “chased after, harassed, bothered” by that former church.
One would think that in order for a church congregation to GROW and increase membership…that particular church would WELCOME pregnancies to increase the number of babies born into the church, especially to its hierarchy……what better SHOW of affection FOR that church could there be then for those at the TOP of the heap to have children who will be dedicated to that particular church?
Marty R….NONE ARE SO BLIND AS THOSE WHO WILL NOT SEE
I believe it’s only the Sea Org that have to leave their positions if pregnant and won’t abort. Staff and public can procreate from what I’ve read.
Chris, that’s what I was thinking too.
Hi –
May I ask, just for some context for a never in, how much do you have to donate to get Patron with Honours status?
The organization (sorry I just can’t call it a ch**ch) gets the money free & clear and these poor saps get the debt plus interest.
Yeesh!
$100,000; I do not know if it is accumulative over time or required to be a one time fleecing, er, donation.
If I remember correctly it is $100,000. These people look so sad. Too bad they don’t read Hubbard’s caution about never going into debt as then you are owned others and PTS.
Patron with Honors was $100,000 10 years ago and may be still. This reflects their total donations to the IAS over time, so this particular donation may have been $5000, $10000, $20000 – no way to know, but it put them over $100,000.
Thanks to you all for your explanations, I guess that explains why they were turned down for, what was most likely, yet another loan, or a 2nd or 3rd mortgage.
(C’mon, c’mon just another $5,000/$10,000 and you’ll get a nice shiny trophy to show off for all eternity!( ( I hope they’re edible trophies, that might come in handy down the road).
What happens to the sanity of these folks when the banks & credit card companies start pressuring them for payment, payment they are actually entitled to, with just as much force as the ch**ch?
They are between a rock & a very hard, cold, uncaring place.
“I just thought about where I might have put this and I went straight to it. I’d put it with other similar items.”
Wow, Just wow. You found it where you expected to find it. It’s a miracle! When I come into my house, I have a little wicker basket by the door where I dump the contents of my pockets — money, wallet, keys. Then every morning when I get ready to leave, I go looking for my money, wallet and keys, and miracle of miracles, they’re in that dang little basket. Do you know how much I had to donate to the Amalgamated Association of Satan Prince of Darkness Worshipers to make that happen?
I felt the same way when I read that. WTF!!!
I don’t think you really get it, Hgc10 – you must have done something for this to continually be occurring. Think. This kind of thing doesn’t just happen unless you once did a CCRD…..or maybe a Comm Course or something? Perhaps you filled out a few OCAs?
That the church would actually publish this damning promo in a form that could be seen and disseminated publicly shows that they delusional or desperate or both.
I’m saying both.
Oh.Dear.God! The naivety is deafening!
Just hang around for awhile cuz it’s going to get a whole lot worse.
These guys must be in total propritiation towards Scientology and/or their registrar.
It’s pathetic.
Sara, it is called Stockholm Syndrome and it probably applies to all active scienos and staff serving under David Miscavige.
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-stockholm-syndrome-973324
That is quite possibly the most delusional thing I have read in a long time. Just to take up one reading item, Thursday 2pm occurs 52 times a year, right?
Thursday at 2:01 pm also occurs 52 times a year. And 2:02. The lawyers and PI’s who get paid this money don’t care if you’re a few minutes late.
“they thought it was a suspicious transaction” – Yeah I think they were on to something there. So sad 🙁
Ain’t that the truth! First the lender tried to help them by denying the loan and the credit card company by rejecting them at first.
I can imagine what the interest rate is on that card….
I guess I should be thanking Craig and Jan. Because their donation was made before 2:00 on Thursday, this sector of the galaxy is safer!
Hell of a way to avoid staff and SO recruiters – being in too much debt. Want to bet the Cof$ vultures have already done a workout on their assets, mortgage potential etc and are probably zeroing in with solutions to get them into the SO, sell off their assets and reap a bundle of cash at the same time. It’s a long, long, endless path to misery once Scientology operatives know you’re a sucker or an easy mark. Let’s face it, it’s the only game in town for the assholes!
Yep.
A person whose financial situation is so bad that he cannot borrow more HAS NO BUSINESS taking out additional credit in order to give to a supposed charity.
Exactly.
That makes me wonder what reason they gave the bank for needing that loan. They sure as hell didn’t state that they were gonna give it all to that fucking cult.
OMFG is correct. Regardless of anything else going on in scientology and how horrific things are, I just cannot get my head around this fundraising BS and IAS BS. There is NO way that they can claim this is anything to do with LRH and his policies. This is the one thing that is so far off base it is not even funny. I know, since I was with LRH for all those years and believe me when I say, he had no interest in good looking buildings or anything like that, And when they shove KSW (Keeping Scientology Working) policies down the sheeples throats, how can they possibly think that they are following his policies by doing this. These poor, poor, stupid people. It is the ultimate money grab.
Yeah, Lois, it just blows my mind every time. Over and over, it continues to blow my mind. I still can’t really get how dumb these people are.
And I don’t mean ignorance, or cluelessness. That’s understandable.
I mean DUMBNESS, because they’re reading KSW over and over…its mind blowing how dumb they are.
Louise, I am still calling it Stockholm Syndrome. See my post above.
Lois
L Ron was a criminal con man that used mind control to harm people
He spent the last 15 years of his life hiding from the law
There is no state of clear or OT as he promised
He was a liar and a con man
A CRIM
We all were duped
Go CLEAR
Go all the way down that rabbit hole
The truth will set u free
I spend a lot of time on a computer and find Mike’s site a good respite and a good place to go to vent my frustration about the Cof$ and what they have done to my family, life, finances etc. Also, I’ve come to know most of the regular commentators and their personalities and enjoy their commentary, even if I can’t stand what they say sometimes. BUT THIS… OMFG! It puts an underlined and parenthesis on the term, “there’s a sucker born every minute!”
If you’re anything like me and without even thinking about it can compute these people’s future in an instant, plus they are like a spreader of a virulent disease if they influence others to do as they have done – it makes one sick to the stomach.
Please someone, anyone, workout an OFF switch to Scientology and their scams!!
❤️to You.
+100?
The end phenomenon: IAS gets to hoard another few bucks that will never be used to anyone’s benefit. But this poor sap will be paying 18% interest for a long time to come. And undoubtedly this did not buy him any reprieve. Having proved himself a sucker, I’m sure they’re hounding him as we speak, for more, more and more.
OMG Its sad and pathetic. How I bankrupted myself to total freedom.
But, you did get your old life back, Lisa. That’s the most important thing. Walking away from the cult is true freedom. I walked away from the Honolulu mission, back in the mid 70s. The first thing I did was go surfing! It was such a relief to get out of that group!
I’m surprised the COS would publish this. It’s just so plainly delusional. This fellow was able to get a credit card and run it up after being denied a bank loan. Says if he gets a card like this he would ‘bin it’. So we can assume he doesn’t consider using credit cards to be prudent. Yet he gets a credit card and let’s see …. google search … patron with honors = 100,000 USD… runs up his credit card and believes he is being tone 40? wow just wow! And the Church publishes it as if the guy is a hero or something.
This is evil on so many levels, not the least of which is ;
– the techniques used to put a guy in this state of mind.
– that a church would promote a guy who can’t even qualify for a bank loan and has to use a credit card for this kind of sum as being somehow ‘able’ and ‘tone 40’.
– that getting a credit card and running it up is somehow something that requires special Church of Scientology training of CCRD, Super Power and L11.
It’s sobering to think that to those in critical thinking circles or cultic studies this is a clear example of a couple being cruelly victimized, but to those inside the church it is something to celebrate and applaud.
My heart goes out to the couple if and when they realize the ‘beautiful consequences’ of giving the church your money is a fallacy and ‘providing truth on the 4th dynamic’ and ‘people are screaming’ for their truth is again a falsehood by knowing and unknowingly willing conmen.
Believes he’s being Tone 40 thanks to Super Power, L11 and CCRD!
All of which cost him… someone help me out here…would it be safe to assume upwards of 200K?
Hypnotized subjects when given a command to cluck and walk like a chicken cluck and walk like a chicken.
Being proud of going into debt on a credit card as an OT success story is……………..
Cluck cluck
$100,000 is Patron with Honours? These poor people….combine interest and monthly repayment will be as much as their house payment…?
As you wrote Mike, so sad on so many levels.
I read this and got the image of this couple gulping down the sea water in the keel of a sinking ship. Doing their part to keep it afloat, whilst going down with the ship.
Wow..just.. huh. So we are proud we found a credit card, that we never use and hate so much, so at the 9th hour (again cause it never stops) we can give money to the cult. Its sad
Oh, no…
I don’t know whether to cringe or weep. On the whole: weep.
OMFG! These guys are so far under the ether it’s unbelievable. & that’s from a 7 yr Flag reg! I hope they have a close network to catch them when they wake up cause coming out to reality in going to be ruff! I really feel sorry for them.
“OMFG! These guys are so far under the ether it’s unbelievable. & that’s from a 7 yr Flag reg!
But still less so than you were, it seems. It’s one thing to be a victim of fraud, but quite another to be its perpetrator, don’t you think?
And Mike, thanks for all you are doing and have done in the past. I do not know if I could stand the constant attacks against my family as you have. There are any of us who see what is really going on.
One more time, thanks, Mike.
I meant ‘many’ instead of ‘any’ in above comment!
Senior Moment, Mark? I have them on an hourly basis!
I wonder if they’re going to install ATMs in all the Model, Idle Morgues around the world. It sure would make the regge’s job a lot easier…
I’m surprised Scientology doesn’t have its own affiliation credit cards.
Just give ’em time. They’ll get around to it.
OSD, Can you imagine what the yearly fee (donation) will be for that card, maybe 50 large for the “slate” card, $250,000 for a platinum and the IAS gets to keep the skymiles, just because.
And just for cherch members a low, low interest rate of 37%, because they care about you!
OMFG! The trollers are going to pick up on that idea and run with it!
If anyone needed some help, it is the Middleton couple. But after I think about this a minute, it would scare me to death to see this (if I was in and had the least bit of entheta working) and walk right away. I think this will move a more people out than cause a great input from similar people.
The bank refused our loan due to poor credit history…Tone 40 demonstrated.
Wondering if Craig and Jan would be shaken from their delusion if they knew that Miscavige has $8 billion in reserves. Would that even make a dent in their delusion?
Credit card companies love people like the Middletons. Why do you think they still lend to them?
The Middletons have lots of company outside the cult.
High interest, late fees, never ending debt, compulsive spending, emotional, impulse buying – credit card companies LOVE people who are bad with money. So long as they’re not outright deadbeats, these are the people who generate the high profits for them.
If everyone were good with money, were disciplined in their use of credit and in general applied proven financial principles to their spending and savings, these companies would lose plenty of money and might even have to fold.
Also inadequate health care coverage helps the credit card companies because such people frequently pay medical bills with credit cards. I’ve observed a number of people who went into very high debt to pay medical and hospital bills.
The bottom line is the banks who lend this unsecured debt have a vested interest in keeping lots of people in continuing, high interest credit card debt, in one way or another, whether it be out of control impulse spending or a sudden huge medical emergency, pressure from the Cult of Scientology. Or whatever.
Silly fools.
The Middletons make this sound as if they are testifying to a miracle; to a victory snatched from the jaws of defeat. But—and this is probably just me—the messages between the lines struck me as these are desperate and monstrous lies the Middletons are telling to themselves.
And the photograph!
Lordy.
That picture is not of joy or success. I see woe and regret beneath a tissue-thin veneer of “just enough to fool everybody” happiness and health. That is, they’d Downgraded their Statuses and they know it. Plus, they know that we know it.
I feel badly for them.
I certainly wouldn’t promote this out in the wog world!
But that’s just me.
Who was it that said there’s a sucker born every minute? I wonder how many mortgages they have already Now a humongous credit card debt. SMH
That would be PT Barnum who said that. A shrewd crook who was right on the money, pun intended.
PT Barnum was the original reg….
Wow, wow, wow, wow! OMFG is the right heading for this….i specially love how they attribute their getting into debt as being because they had done “CRRD, Super Power and L11″…such a joke…and the fact that the IAS are now straight out using this Modus operandi as a promotional – I mean I know we’ve all pushed the limits on our credits cards – but actually promoting this – crazy shit! Disgusting f ing a** holes!
Why do you think the loan was disapproved?
Because the vultures had already bled them dry to the point that their credit was toast.
So very sad. It sounds as if he/she had a stroke the IAS would pry the card out of their hand to run it before stat deadline and before any aid rendered.
How deluded do you have to be to thank your SRD and Tone 4.0 to scam a credit card you can’t pay back?
Poor people. They’re not young. I hope to God they’ve got something put away for retirement, but from the looks of things I’d guess they haven’t.
Doubtful they have anything stashed away. These people are trapped…and brainwashed. Sad…
Knew a person who had given the cult every dime they had including all savings and retirement funds and then wound up living in a car when they lost their job and the bank foreclosed and kicked them out of the house. Sad, abysmally sad especially for an elderly person.
Hmm – that pressure to donate on an arbitrary deadline is why the donor does not think about it clearly (is fixed on getting it done because he is being hustled and hassled), does not consider the repayment plan, the interest rates or how he is going to deal with the repayment of the loan in the long term. “We don’t use CCs”. So fiscally responsible people just threw all caution to the wind – for Thursday 2pm. (And surprise, surprise the credit card company thought it was suspicious.) What difference to the IAS if they get it at 2 minutes to 2pm or twenty minutes past? No difference except that the arbitrary deadline is what keeps the pressure up – often overt – sometimes subtle – but don’t dare ask the IAS for their books to see what they really use the money for. In Africa a castle was purchased and two buildings in Zimbabwe. So far nothing has occurred there except for illegal occupations. The property and utility rates on the castle must be phenomenal to cover monthly – but still nothing. And even if it the buildings were renovated and used for purpose – they are not attracting new members – witness those orgs that did go “ideal” and the barely functional/probably not functional test centre in Braamfontein. The ideal org strategy failed and no one has the courage to abandon it – oh …wait….the strategy was always a diversion – along with the disaster capitalism projects. The church can try to “dead-agent” whoever and whatever it likes — the truth is still the truth, and is observable to anyone (especially on the inside) who cares to look. The staff and SO get treated extremely poorly, the public are crush regged. And there are NO results.
“but don’t dare ask the IAS for their books to see what they really use the money for.”
That’s for sure! $cilons have to be the most gullible and overly trusting folks on the planet when it comes to the kind of charitable donation accounting procedures and oversight that every single large charitable organization has in place, which the Co$ does not.
What’s wrong with these silly, drain bamage fools? Don’t they understand that they have every right – I’d say, duty – to be informed of where there money is going and how much of it is is being spent for actual charitable giving purposes vs. administrative overhead?
Holy shit.
Correct.
I just threw up reading that. Any public scn who doesn’t connect the dots after reading that is either swimming in the kool aid or just plain challenged. I feel so bad for these people getting taken advantage of but that still doesn’t negate that fact that we are responsible for our own finances. Members of this so called church need to start standing up for themselves and saying enough is enough because this is just plain ridiculous
I’ll bet this promo makes a few more people leave.
Buncha Hokey Poke 🙂
Thank God or whoever your higher power may be that you and Leah are exposing this horrendous cult
Or, in other words, I got into huge debt so that could donate to a multi-billion dollar cult! Plus due to my OT abilities, I managed to get it done before Thursday at 2pm!
Then I only had to search for an hour, looking for my car keys but because I did my L’s, I found them in my pocket.
Further great news is that I’ll get a bowling trophy at the next event!
OMG is right Mike.
“bowling trophy”… LOL.
Those gaudy trinkets of scientology make Trump look like he has extremely good taste.
Cobwebs and dust, that is the future of all scientology crap.
Unreal. So they spent thousand of dollars on CRRD, Super Power, and L11 in order to figure out how to max out a credit card for the IAS that has billions of dollars in various accounts when their loan request was denied. I just don’t even know where to start with these idiots. They are definitely not seeing how badly they are being used by this “church.” It’s kind of heartbreaking.
Loved this bit of goofy, delusional magical thinking: “We tried the card just a few minutes later and it went through with about a minute to spare. This was due to having done CRRD, Super Power and L11. Tone 40 demonstrated.”
No it wasn’t; it was due to the cult’s vulture reges making these two poor duped dingbats think it was important, then hustling the hell out of them for a stat that doesn’t matter to anyone except the poor fools who’d be punished by the cult if they didn’t get it!
I want to know WTF ever happened to the only real stats that track the actual progress (or lack thereof) towards planetary clearing? Buying and refurbishing huge, pricey Ideal Orgs only advances planetary clearing IF they’re filled up with lots and lots of new public getting on the bridge, then getting trained as auditors who actually do the auditing required to clear folks…simple as that!
How is it that all these duped and defrauded cult sheeple can’t see what’s right before their very eyes!!?
With an approximate net increase in the world’s population of 200,000 per day, and the total number of clears ever made in the entire history of the cult standing at less than 70,000 (per the most recent edition of the cult mag, The Auditor), it’s crystal clear that, not only is their NO PROGRESS being made in accomplishing the cult’s most important goal, but it’s actually getting further and further away with each passing day – as the net increase in world population is occurring at a rate that is many times greater than the rate of clears being produced.
Even more disconcerting for this criminal fraud syndicate posing as a religion is the fact that the cult’s major stats are all trending straight down and vertical with no relief in sight. Indeed, after Hurricane Leah makes landfall again this year, there may not even be enough $cilons left in the cult to keep the lights on, let alone any new victims to jump into the cult…Xenu willing 😉
There are no words…….none……
OMFG is right. Stupidity, thy names are Craig and Jan Middleton. And the irony, the supreme irony of their crediting their “Tone 40” intention of getting the payment in a minute before 2PM on Thursday to having done CCRD, Super Power and L11. Really, there are no words for how deluded these people are.
On one hand, they look like nice, sincere, helpful folks and I feel sorry for them.
On the other hand, I think, well, no one has any right to be this stupid. That includes me and how stupid I was, back in the day. Not that its right, but no one has the right to be an adult and be this dumb. PT Barnum was onto something.
All they are guaranteeing is an eternity of credit card debt.
This makes me sick to my stomach. Disgusting!
That’s supremely sad.
“Loan disapproved” Just proves the couple are deeply in debt. But it also raises the question “what will they do when that huge credit card charge comes due?” Oh, yeah, just like so many registrars have always pushed; get another credit card to pay off the first one. Anyway, yes, Mike it is amazing the cult actually published this palabar, but foot shooting is what they’re becoming better and better at though. Maybe they’ll publish a suckess story about that gain. 🙂
Delusional. Very sad. Craig’s eyes tell a different story than Jan’s. She looks certain and a bit smug, he looks like “Awww, shit!”
Wow! And so, so sad ?
Unbelievable how happy they sound about how they just dug themselves deeper into debt.
Well, they need to shore up some admiration, approval and applause from the staff and their fellow culties before the bills start coming in. And you can bet that when the wolves get hungry again and they get hit on and start whining about how much they’ve already given and how much in debt they, the cult will say, “OK, this is how you can help us, get on the horn with your fellow Scientologists and ‘activate’ them”.
When they’re tapped out and exhausted, resentful and belligerent, they’l be used as registrars and as examples of how to do the Spirit of Play thing in a BIG way.
Sad.
But you know something? If what they did, as financially stupid as it is – if going into debt like this were REALLY going to help people, REALLY going to make a difference to their fellow man in the world or at least do some actual good in their immediate area – in brief, if it were REALLY true that this couple had just risked a lot, sacrificed, as it were, for an organization that would do ACTUAL good, my hat would be off to them for their unselfishness and willingness to take on this financial burden.
There are so many ways that 100K could do a great deal of good, not just feeding people but educating them, teaching them a trade or something and thereby lifting them out of poverty…so much good could be done it almost hurts to think about it.
And here they are, just throwing it away.
No words.
God Damn this fucking cult for giving help a bad name, for making help equivalent to betrayal. God Damn them.
Vomit! Sounds just as ridiculous and phony as their promo videos. They really don’t get outside of their culture because to think anyone is persuaded from that story is really clueless.
Reminds me of a late night infomercial. Or the late night church pastor’s asking for donations for their Spring Water that once you buy thiss amazing water & drink it you’ll feel the holy spirit and your life will change forever. I mean really? So fake.
NOW I understand what Tone 40 is!
Now I Really Understand!! Love to You Mary ❤️❤️
When I read this I was rendered speechless …. a rare feat indeed. I remember your heart wrenching segment from season 1 of Aftermath. I look at his face and remember your words. I wonder if they are toeing the line to keep their family together.
Mary my heart bleed for you and everyone else in your situation. I’m sending you the biggest hug in history.
The title says it all …. OMFG indeed!
OMFG is right. What a predatory, POS organization. Also, the arbitrary Thursday 2PM stupidity.
Yeah, as if a few hours or days mattered, like the sick bastards of scientology would shut the window down on the donation…
Such a repulsive group of humans. They are lower than the gut bacteria in farm swine.
“Are you a Scientologist?” should be on every bank loan and credit card application. The bank is never seeing that money again.
OMFG here also. I have not seen a more pathetic and delusional promo piece as this one is. This couple just cannot see that all that happened with their cc in not due to super OT powers just to the idiosyncrasies of the Web. How absolutely horrible The “Church of Scientology ” is and dragging those who are under the spell of David and having them believe they are doing the important work for the IAS. My admiration for all who got out and away from him grows by the second. How this system has crashed and burned and is burning right now the Scientology Tech that when I was first in I thought was a guiding light Forever, has shown it’s true colors. I will never give up trying to help bring this mess down. Dm is a monster. ?
Dave,
Cannibalism Update:
Like you, on your rooftop in Hollywood, your members are in denial are about the decomposing cartilage of your cult’s establishment status quo.
I Love this. Thank you.?
Mike do you have a sample letter we can send to our representatives and senators to urge them to investigate the cult of $cientology? Are there any petitions we can sign? I’m really distressed at the thought of them consolidating their operations in Clearwater. It’s time for them to GO!
I’d love to know if there is anything we can do too.
Getting several thousand (40,000?) on a Petition to the White House requires a response by law. Perhaps Mike and Leah can scroll a link to sign a Petition online, frequently on their TV show.
anyone who was a member should consider telling their stories.
In very particular, those who did small favours for OSA often broke the law at the bidding of the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology.
Little things, like allowing OSA to spy on your neighbour, to infiltrate a volunteer group and leak info, to become a patient at a doctor and steal his mail. All these things may have seemed much less significant when Saving The Planet NOW!!! – i.e. while under the undue influence – but they are are not legal and they are not “church” like…
Here are some step-by-step instructions:
(This is how these things get done… GO GET ‘EM!)
https://whyweprotest.net/threads/tony-ortega-how-to-make-the-irs-re-examine-scientology%E2%80%99s-tax-exempt-status.125622/
Such a sad story. These people are being taken advantage of all of the time. It is hard lenough to survive without the cult of scientology taking advantage of generous people. This will probably go for another suit etc. For the little dictator.
I feel awful for these people. There was no happy ending here.
… and let’s not forget, many dollars make the scam continue.
Right, and its the only thing that does.
I agree with you wholeheartedly —OMFG! The looks on their faces say what they are truly thinking and feeling. What a pitiful photo.
*** Delusion of the Week ***
Yeah it was due to CRRD, SupPow, L11 – sure it was. And your infinite knowingness.
Truth to the 4th dynamic? – excuse me while I throw up.
❤️to you freebeeing.
My Dear freebeing,
I’d rather hold out my cupped hands and catch what you’re vomiting than give one penny to the cos. Admittedly, it would take some doing, but my stomach heaves every time I think about something as sick as this. Tell me when you’re ready and I’ll make sure I don’t eat anything beforehand.
OMFG is right! I just shake my head at the ignorance of these people.
This kind of fixation on getting money NOW NOW NOW and fleecing the public was the main reason I became disillusioned with the Church and eventually left. And that was 10 years ago. Seemingly, it got even worse since then… They don’t even pretend any sort of spiritual or social benefit, just simply giving money to the IAS somehow became an act of charity in their minds.
That is so sad!
Grotesque!
Wow that is indeed sad!
The photo of their faces and body language says volumes. This was just sick to read