You can handled ANYTHING with Solo NOTs.
Except your finances.
Connection to your family.
The ever-shrinking orgs of scientology.
The terrible PR scientology has everywhere.
And pretty much anything else.
3 DECADES of bypassed charge handled with his first drilling of a can squeeze! That is really something, especially after saying how wonderful and stable it is to be an “OT V.”
1 Solo NOT’s completion per day. OMG. At this rate, they will have 1000 every 3 years. 10,000 in THIRTY YEARS.
They don’t even seem to notice how bizarre their statements are.
I guess this is the awareness you gain by being on Solo NOTs. Totally oblivious to the real world. That’s worth paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to achieve.
Sad in that this guy has paid so much just for the ability to challenge his thoughts. Getting rid of body thetans is no different than challenging what comes up in your mind, letting it go, and gaining the ability to move on with what you need to do.
Well with that kind of charge global energy crisis should be solved by just a few mighty OTs….. Now that’s something they could do to make mankind saner, less wars, blah blah, ….. I wonder why they aren’t making huge immediate global world stopping headlines? Mankind needs this kind of power
Mike, Would you be willing to comment on what’s going on with Marty and why he may have fired his attorneys (if you can)?
For those of us that supported him, his silence feels like such an FU.
Sorry, I have no idea so don’t have any light to shed.
Mike: Let me shed a little light on the topic. What Warren Tardif is saying makes sense to a point that NOT’s and SOLO NOT’s are so exciting because one is handling the source of the reactive mind. Trying to copy unconscious or dormant mass or make a picture of it can pose problems to a thetan. But, then on the other hand trying to duplicate the confused misleading “mystery” that is the Church of Scientology today at the same time and get desired results can also pose problems to a thetan as well. 🙂
So let me get this straight from this past year’s promos … OT VII handles everything … EVERYTHING!!! … but … “New” OT 8s are REALLY getting to “be themselves” and handling what they haven’t gotten handled before by re-doing their OBJECTIVES!!!!! … makes sense (well, not really) … I’m all for addressing and handling whatever comes up in ANY auditing … it’s all good … except for the fact that you have to bankrupt yourself to do it … and you have to agree to crazy people running every single part of your life, including what you are allowed to THINK and who you are allowed to feel affinity for and to communicate to … other than those little things …….
Joe: People that are indoctrinated into the church and don’t want to leave will do Objectives just to keep themselves out of the Sea Org and keep the Sea Org “in the dark” by saying the Objectives helped them when they really could not have in that context. Neither party wins “but seem like good Scientologists to each other”. Really, really, really, bad news. 🙂
Dear Mr. Hubbard,
Please share with us the means by which you acquired your knowledge of “thetans”. As I’ve never heard anything quite like it before, do you claim to be the only human privy to this information? Also, please show us a demonstration of somebody functioning without need of a body. Or perhaps you think people will just accept this as fact without question.
Sincerely,
A Rational Person
Dear Mr. Hubbard,
How can we independently verify the data that you presented to us?
A Randroid
If you think you observe something contrary to the dictates of L Ron Hubbard, it’s because you’re wrong. Not only that, but you have eeeeevil intentions towards L Ron Hubbard. That’s what the “false purpose rundown” is all about. That’s what being in a cult is like.
On a lighter note, one wonders why the people observing L Rn Hubbard obviously faking remote vision twisted their minds into accepting it…
“Possibly this was my most embarrassing incident to do with LRH. It occured on the Original Class VIII course, in Oct 1968..”
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?1079-Stably-exterior-with-full-perception&p=12193&viewfull=1#post12193
Dear Mr Hubbard
Even just point out to us ANYone you know who manifests your claims as to the abilities of so called OTs. Perhaps you can explain to us why so many of them died of cancer, became bankrupt, became criminal (I personally know two who swindled people out of their hard earning money with a ponzi scheme – after OT 8 and after the Ls), why so many commit adultery and/or became divorced and a good few have very complicated, unsatisfactory situation in their jobs, with their kids, money and health issues. I personally know several.
I look forward to hearing from you from Target 2.
You see, there was a pair of boots sitting there ….
Laughter!
Were these boots made for walkin’? Cuz that’s just what they’ll do…
Dear Rational Person, “thetan” is merely the Scientology word for soul or spirit or the essential being as apart from the body. Now, the idea that you are something OTHER than physical and that “you” are not a body is either an idea that resonates with you or doesn’t. Most atheists (of which I am one as I do not believe in an all powerful supreme being/creator) profess that there is no spirit or non physical entity inside a body. I beg to differ as I do consider my essential self “other than physical.” In his book 8-8008, LRH goes over the idea of what a thetan/spirit is in some great depth. Again, that is an idea that is either “real to you” or it isn’t. If you read that book, you will either consider it “evidence” or you won’t. It rings true to me. I don’t happen to think any of the great artists in Earth’s history created FROM their physical cells, even their brains. I happen to think their creations are evidence of a spiritual nature … BUT … I realize that others, you?, have different opinions on this. And, as always, I celebrate different viewpoints.
Great answer and comment, Joe.
My comment isn’t about whether we should believe in spirit souls, it’s about acknowledging the sources of one’s information especially when one speaks it with authority. Hubbard acted as though he knew a great deal about spirit souls. Where did he get his information? He made it up of course. He was no more of an authority on the matter than you nor I. My point is that nobody ever questioned the legitimacy of his claim to authority. It is all the more remarkable because his thetan theory is riddled with inconsistencies that demand explaining. That is to say, further explanation would be required by a more discerning discipleship than the one he had. Had the right questions been asked, Hubbard wouldn’t have looked so smart as he pretended to be.
You’re dam right he made it all up.And the gullible just eat it up. And emptied there savings. I would have to rank this as the biggest scam in history .Bravo mr. Hubard, bravo.
Carl Sagan has something to say about this in his book, A Demon-Haunted World. He could change your mind.
Another good read about the “I” and what it actually is, is, The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat, by Oliver Sacks, neurologist.
Another one, Lifetides by Lyall Watson.
Between these three books, you may change your minds about what it’s all about.
These three scientist/writers haven’t thumb sucked or made things up. Nor do they claim to have all the answers.
Joe, this soul information is as old as life itself. Ron’s claimings that he’s discovered anything is akin to claiming he’s discovered air.
Ron created his own vocabulary to separate himself from what is known so he can be perceived as unique.
Ron’s singular uniqueness seems to be in his ability to convince people of his fallacious scientism through Altitude Instruction per his writing of the same title.
Hi Joe Pendleton, As you do so well,another spot-on post.For me as the years continue to wind down, I find I have more clarity now in what I believe for me.I am not a member of any organized religion, but I know with total certainly that I am more than just body, brain and nothing else.I feel I will go to a Light when I pass on, but I have no idea how all that is accomplished.I’ll find out ! Laughter.Always Love,Ann.
It might help your understanding to read up on undue influence. Cults do not convince by rational argument, but by appealing to emotional weaknesses. They seek to exploit any weakness which makes you set aside your rational thought process. L Ron Hubbard called this “find their ruin” – that’s the essence of the approach.
Suggested reading: “Cults Inside Out” by Rick Ross, “Combatting Cult Mind Control” by Steven Hassan and/or “opening minds” by Jon Atack.
Oh, and anyone thinks that only cults do this, try reading “Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion” by Robert Cialdini
3 Decades of BPC Blown from a Can Squeeze.
(Sounds like the name of a Bar in Bangkok.)
GAT 2 wins are so fishy . D.M. is desperate.
Truth is the Sandcastle parking lots are empty
No, Can Squeeze is a actual bar in Bangkok. I met some special ops guys there. You’re allowed to squeeze anything you want. And the drinks are killer! I’ve got good memories from the Can Squeeze…
“But from this point forward on your Bridge, it’s no longer about you, it’s about the rest of your dynamics. Needless to say the comm impinged.” Any Sec Checker knows when the screws are being tightened. The thumbscrews were not needed at this time.
Mr. Tardif is an experienced Sec Checker, even Sec Checking his siblings. I wonder how that went.
‘Billy, did you decapitate Suzies Barbie doll?” “No Warren, Xenu did it!”
And you thought your family ‘dynamic’ was bad.
“But from that point forward on the Bridge it’s no longer about you.” It’s about david miscavige and what he wants from you.
Sometimes you just have to jump off the bridge.
It’s the real Code of Honor
Leslie, Best line I have read yet!!
I’ve played bridge but never jumped off one…
Perfect!
Warren,
Speaking as a Randroid, if it’s not about me then why should I care?
Leslie Bates
How one can feel powers he has not ..
Well, since it’s all make believe, they just spin fantasies in their head that they have Pooper Powers.
?
Hi Mike, I have a question that I can’t seem to get an answer to- do some scientologists say they are not scientologists to ppl on the outside of the church? And if so, do you know why?
I am sure there are. They are embarrassed or don’t want to answer the inevitable questions or think it will affect their job/relationship.
Mentioning Scientology cost me many clients and working relationships. So I would recommend not letting anyone know about Scientology unless you are out.
Some say that they aren’t or leave that piece of information out of it (that they are a scientologist) because they know outright or intuitively that admitting it makes one think less of you and/or won’t hire you, do business with you or be friends with you. If you’re good at withholding that even in auditing, then you’re good but if it comes up, you will be “corrected.”
The end of endless, grabbed by nose and dragged ON and ON, and get your money drained out of you, and you either shut up or get out. That’s the eventual way this cycle goes. Until you wake up, and don’t care anymore about their control over you. Be free my friends.
I’m pretty sure the D of P actually said the following but Warren miss heard it. “You CICS, you are a trained auditor and an OT V, it’s an outpoint that you are happy and winning in life. And from this point forward on your bridge, it no longer about you, it’s about the rest of your money.”
Either way, This is truly a look deeply in the bubble. The ‘only way’ talk is so key. It’s the ‘only way.’ It doesn’t matter how many people are hurt or even killed it’s the ‘only way.’ And since were on the ‘only way’ everything we do is ethical and justified not that as OT we need to justify our actions. Don’t look at the effects of your actions just remember “it’s the only way.” Any doubts just remember “It’s the only way.”
3 Decades of bypass charge handled in drill. Wow, all that auditing failed to handle some bypass charge. kind of puts it the whole exact tech that can handle any problem into perspective. Also, shouldn’t he have to redo that auditing since he just admitted it was run on out rudiments?
Who owns the rest of Warren’s dynamics?? Is that David Miscavige? And is he selling them back to him piecemeal?
Regarding Solo NOTs and NOTs in general – miscavige writes issues on it, promotes & then sells it doesn’t he?
That should tell you all you need to know about it. It’ll not only take all your money and put you in serious debt but it also destroys your relationships as well as implanting false hope and goals, but as a real treat for ‘let him die miscavige’ it’ll fuck you up! Just reading those flyers is sickening.
Miscavige needs and wants all financially able scientologists on that level – think about that!
And I’ll guarantee miscavige sure as hell isn’t doing it.
This guy spent how much time and money? Ability gained : can sound like a poorly written brochure in response to questions nobody cares to learn the answers to.
Not about you anymore? Other dynamics? How altruistic of you!
I’d guess that the only people actually reading what they put in their promotion are us!
I’m serious.
When I was “in” I threw everything in the garbage (since I already knew it all), when I was on staff/Sea Org I never read it (since I was already in and knew it already).
This couldn’t be for a brand new person – or if it is they’ve firehosed them with yabber that no one but someone “in” could even understand.
Just read what they wrote with fresh eyes or the point of view that every acronym or code or scientologese word is an actual word.
Read it out loud (video would be fun to see). It’s hilarious. My spouse (never in) does this with our colorful letters, magazines and such.
That’s where I came up with my name, TOOT. Get it?
“I’d guess that the only people actually reading what they put in their promotion are us!
I’m serious.”
That had me laughing out loud. You are probably right.
I think that was a typo: 3 decades of charge blew into view when they started EM Drill 5 RC.
Do they think anyone is going to buy that a flippin can squeeze drill is going to blow 30 years of charge? Really? No, I mean seriously?
What differences have you observed using the Mark 8 meter? “Well, when I touched it it felt different. The case was so much curvier and smoother.” Wow! Totally awesome dude! I can’t wait to get me a couple!!!
What a joke
Hi freebeeing, Your post reminded me, last year Mike posted a picture of a couple who looked like they were on the other side of 60 & I’m sliding rapidly down that slope too Laughter. This pair were beaming as they showed their two new versions of the e-meter.I was howling as I read their success stories.Pieces of wiring costing thousands.Each new version will always cost more and deliver less than all the e-meters before.Love, Ann.
There OTVIIs I know who are in good standing with CO$ and doing well, and there are other in good standing OTVIIs I know who are struggling.
The difference between the former and the latter is that the former are applying common sense to their finances and other dynamics and the latter are not.
In fact, I suspect that the 2 OTVIIs I know who are doing well are to some degree UTR.
Perhaps coincidentally, the OTVIIs I know who are struggling are the koolaid swilling types who blindly follow any order that comes down the pike no matter how unreal and harmful it is.
OT is as OT does. The successful, productive OTs seem to have a clear concept of this.
The struggling OTs seem to operate as if all they can glow things right via the plaques on their wall, while at the same time they are smug and self satisfied as if they have it all together. Meanwhile, they subsist by scrounging jobs here and there, or off of the hard work and products of family members and spouses.
Incomplete Editing Alert: When I edit I should do a thorough job. Sorry.
So Wht the typos. It’s becomining a fixashun.
“Struggling OTs…” now there’s an interesting arrangement of words, similar to slow bullet or cold fire. Sort of self defeating yet impossible at the same time if you believe the hype – just the way the Cof$ likes it.
Or real results…
Good point, Yawn. You’re right; “struggling OT” is, or should be, an oxymoron because if someone IS an “operating thetan” than why would he/she be struggling?
So for that comment I should clarify the definition of “OT” as someone who happens to have a plaque on the wall stating that he is.
Of course, that’s never been MY definition of an OT. Far from it.
In fact, I think there are PLENTY of people who are “OT” who’ve never heard of Scientology. I think that all of us, actually – every last one of us, is, at any given time, to some degree or another, “OT”.
A Mark ultra VIII is supposed to be a summit of technology. Well, it cannot even do 1/100 of what a smart phone can do and they sell it for over 4000 $. I would go for it if I could make coffee, toast and scrambled eggs, while playing a song and cheering me up in the morning. Needless to say for 1/100 of the price they request.
There is a machine that does precisely that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVdqwD_bcPs
“A legacy that will live on for many, many years to come.” Well yes: broken lives, bankruptcy, families torn apart, thousands of people living in total delusion in a parallel reality that has very little to do with the physical universe until they hit the wall. When his happens they’ll be dying of physical ailments that went unaddressed and undetected while they were on solo Nots and they will be discarded like garbage because they have neither money nor energy to feed the blood sucking monster known as the “Cult of Greed” which they pretend to call a “church”.
What would happen if you just said something was a percentage better, like 50% faster, instead of a multiple? Everything has to be 100x faster, a million times better, 50,000x smoother, nineteen billion times more standard. Everything COB touches doesn’t just get better, it goes from 1 to 1,000,000,000 instantly.
I really understand people now. They have these little critters around them making them do stuff. I can banish these critters into the nether lands. Hooray!
Books make booms — um, no unless you poor gasoline on them and enclose them in a confined space and light a match…
“You can handle anything on Solo NOTs. Except your finances. Connection to your family. The ever-shrinking orgs of Scientology. The terrible PR Scientology has everywhere. And pretty much anything else.”
🙂 🙂
Mike, you’re starting my day off right.
Hey, this young fellow should not have any by-passed charged. He was raised as a clam.
Why should anyone care what this almost child has to say. The cherch his hurting.
“…over 200 OTs ‘pounding’ on the door to the courseroom… one of the most memorable experiences of my life.”
Most memorable? You need to get out more Mr. OT5 space traveler. Like to Wal-mart on Black Friday. At least there you stand a chance of coming away with a TV set.
Hummmmm…”over 900 solo 1 auditor completions since the release of GAG II?”
Aren’t all solo auditors REQUIRED to do the new GAG?
Does that mean they have only 900 people auditing VII?
If Warren really did “truly understand people” he would run like hell AWAY from the church.
The basic on those 3 decades of can squeeze bpc is when we used to use soup cans.
Those little grooves just caused all kinds of upset.
Hi Potpie, Yes I echo your post. Those little grooves and my blowing out all the hgc lights quite abit! Laughter,Love,Ann.
“You will understand people on OT Seven” – when you have been spending oodles and oodles of thousands of dollars and auditing off the body thetans and clusters? They are the source of all problems…those pesky little buggars! Oh – okay – fair enough, I get it. LOL
3 decades of charge!? That is not a very good advertisement of the workability of the tech when you admit to building up charge from doing courses as opposed to feeling more causative and Godlike.
Why was none of this charge detected on the e-meter through all those 30 years of auditing and going up the Bridge?
3 decades of BPC!
The carnival barker says.
Step right up and blow your charge here.
With your first drill of the can squeeze, you will be a forever changed person.
Problem here is that when you continue selling the same snake oil to the same people time and time again, they start to see beyond the carnival noises and notice the underlying stench.
Three decades? Ha! When I go surfing, I blow trillions of years of BPC! Then when I go home and have a nice bottle of Chianti, I blow even more charge than that! The guy who blew “decades” of charge is a wuss…..He should ask for his money back. Oh, wait……..
Those ‘still in’ certainly seem able to have a high tolerance for snake oil Valerie. And the MAAs at Flog have truly become the change they wish to see ………….. snake oil saleschildren the likes of which are only surpassed on the rustbucket and int.
Maybe the spell will wear thin before much longer ……….
Would someone as young as Warren Tardif have made it as far as OTVII already?
When I was in, people bought their babies their bipridges rather than give them college funds. If he was born in, he probably started serious auditing around early teens.
Aaack dam autocorrect BRIDGES not bipridges.
All the attention on spelling and stuff in the promo pieces is introverting me since I aren’t that good at grammer.
U get dat rite, Richly.
It’s possible, if he secured the funding. I knew a chick who finished OT 3 at age 13 or so.
Oh! That is so wrong on so many levels!!! My God, 13 or so and done with OT3 already. I wonder what her reaction was….
Yup
Supposedly the youngest person ever on OT7 is a former school mate of mine Alex Wisner. I’m not sure when she got on the level but she definitely on it when she was age 24. I don’t know if she has completed it or not. But she is still in.
Oh crap, I really feel sorry for Warren living in that parallel universe. He’s really brainwashed, probably since birth, by his parents and the cults other-world dwellers. It really was painful to read what he was saying because I felt glimpses of ideas I held at one time when I was a brainwashed believer. The good thing is that we can somehow pull ourselves out of that crazy world eventually if we keep our eyes and ears open.
Yeah man, that really made me laugh for real – 3 decades of BPC blew on a can squeeze drill. Really, really hilarious.
I don’t think we should belittle the can squeeze win. I just went thru my recycling and found two tomato cans and squeezed them. Damn, I feel so good now! It’s amazing!
Wow, CPO, I did the same thing only with tomato cans. I’m telling you I think I may head back to the North Shore of Oahu where the swell is hitting 35 ft! My Super Powers will keep me safe….
Been squeezing my can for a month but it still won’t fit into my size 4 jeans anymore, sheesh!
Can squeeze? Whatever. I can get just as much BPC squeezing an orange. That’s how powerful I am now.
Geez … now if only Ron had been able to audit with the Mark Ultra VIII …
Joe, you talkin’ ’bout the warehouse 8? They left those meters rot for, what, 9 or 10 years? By, hey, they do read 50,000 times faster……
We shall sell no meters before their time (couldn’t help but channel Orson Welles and his Paul Masson wine commercials)
Hi Joe Pendleton, What a picture, love this post.xo Ann.
Thanks Ann. Hope you are having a great day today in Looziana. Drink some Café Du Monde coffee for me, ok? (I live SE Asia, so we just get regular coffee here)
Everything on these promo pieces was approved by DLHDM. I don’t want to belittle those who partake in this “new” OT route, I want to only warn. YOU ARE BEING DUPED!!! Note well: If you do not establish a communication system with your pc and do not get actual answers to your questions you are dubing them in for yourself, which DLHDM wants to occur so he can miss this withhold and drain every last cent from you.
Any OT out there who actually have gotten honest and real answers back are not I repeat not connected to the Church anymore.
And the worse is that any of those “services” can’t do anything for the client – only for his belief, as long as he had not yet understood he was had.
Hence, the Prison of Belief…….
I have achieved the “Golden Age” myself. Little Warren Tardif says, “From this point forward, it’s no longer about you, it’s about the rest of your dynamics.” So, to relieve a little stress from reading his PR BS, I’m off to slam-down a large can of Red Bull and run naked through the woods. It scares the crap out of the bears. How about that for fifth dynamic enhancement!? (What happens in the woods, stays in the woods).
You should video that naked red bull romp through the woods. It would go viral on you tube.
Boggie, you’re absolutely right! What goes on in the woods stays in the woods. No seriously, I had to stay in the woods because I got lost. I was there for months. It wasn’t until a friendly bear showed me the way out. Hey, maybe that’s the ticket! We send in bears to all the orgs to show them the way out!
Hi Bognition, The images I see from the posts today, will keep me laughing all day. Love U,Ann.
Boggie is a funny Dude!
Shh…don’t tell DM about this new epic, mind-blowing, life-enhancing, monumental, never before released GAT II Stimuli Natura Rundown. It’s our little secret…
Hey, I want a GAG 2 stimuli. At my age I’ll take any type of stimuli.
Mike, thank you for this. Yes those guys are totally brainwashed, disconnected from reality. When I got out, after 17 years in the SO, it took me 1 year to reconnect to reality. In fact, I am pleased to have been declared… :):) I could disconnect from them. I sent a disconnection letter to IJC. He did not like it and asked me to come to my senses and do my A to E steps 🙂 LOL now life is beautiful, girlfriend, a little boy, bought a house, great job, great friends… Again thank you.
A disconnect letter to IJC……very creative and very funny.
Did you write back to the IJC and tell them your disconnect was
because you did come to your senses?
Hi emanjamin2007,
I was so glad to read your story and see that you are happy and have a real life. I was not in SO but I was on staff for a short time and I also disconnected from the whole game. There was quite an effort to get me in for “some auditing to help me”, to which I didn’t not respond. They don’t like it when it’s them on the receiving end of disconnection, but it is effective. Enjoy your life!!!
That should read “…did not respond….”
You are so right, Jennifer. Reversing the Disconnection vector on the culties is fun. I highly recommend experiencing what its like to causitively disconnect from anyone who refuses to communicate with you.
Hi emanjamin, Good to meet you. I want to say how genuinely happy I am for not only your escape from the Sea Org, but your life now sounds so good. That is wonderful.Love,Ann.