Here is another in the apparently endless stream of “successes” from people who are OT VIII and then get roped in to do Super Power.
One for one, they proclaim that Super Power “got them into PT” and “handled things I had not handled on OT VII and OT VIII.”
Huh?
Here is what is so strange about this. Hubbard never claimed Super Power was “above OT levels” — in fact, it was specifically designated for “St Hills” as something to sell people who went Clear on NED and thus were not able to be sold Power Processing. This was way back in “Ron’s Journal 30” in 1978 (where he promised it would begin delivery in 6 WEEKS):
Super Power was been made “confidential” for marketing reasons (Power is “confidential” and it could not be “lesser” than Power) – but it contains NOTHING secret or stranger than Grades procedures. Except for the overhyped “perception drills” which like everything in scientology today is all about the MEST. The “drilling” of perceptics is not even a big deal – it is the assessment and auditing that is supposed to be the big deal. Remember when Hubbard announced Super Power would be available “at St Hills” in “6 weeks” there were no “space opera” drill stations for anything. It is all a later invention to make it seem sexy — gyroscopes and oiliness tables. What happened to theta being senior to MEST?
Here is what Super Power is in fact – written by the person who did most of the compiling, Dan Koon. Super Power – The Facts.
It’s a bunch of correction lists and assessments. Resolve your study bugs. Remove false data. Clean up wrong ethics conditions and actions. Much of it taken from 1950’s and 60’s lectures and write ups. Really just a lot of old stuff repackaged for new use. Not nearly as arcane as OT VII or OT VIII.
Isn’t it funny that in their desperation to promote Super Power they constantly diss OT VII and OT VIII? And apparently nobody notices or cares. But this sort of thing does seep into people’s consciousness after a while – the constant barrage of “successes” about how the Student Hat/Purif/Objectives/Basic Books/ACCs/Running Pgm/Super Power exceed the gains and bring stability and whatever else that these OT VIIs and VIIIs have not achieved before.
“I went back to kindergarden/grade school/summer camp and learned so much more than I did on my Master’s Program” – can you imagine this statement? It’s what scientologists say all the time….
And it is probably part of the reason the OT Levels have lost their lustre and they have such a hard time getting people onto them. That and the exposure of the true content of these levels on the internet. But that is NOT what effects scientologists, they do not look at this sort of thing on the internet, and if they do they “know” it is just “squirrel.”
Scientology is doing an effective job of erasing the mystique of the OT levels that has for so long been the carrot that kept people going.
From: markthekeyman
Date: Thu, Jun 30, 2016
Subject: Super Power
Here is the success story I wrote when I attested to Super Power:
Today I finished Super Power. Some of the gains I had include knowing that the gains won’t end after I attest. I am much calmer as a being. I have a great certainty of myself as a spiritual being. I understand why the tech we have works like magic. Because it is magic, the real thing, not card tricks. This is pure magic without relying on tricky, fast finger movements or deceptions. Super Power made it real to me that we really have tapped into the source of life energy. Another benefit is that my perception of present time is greatly heightened. I rehabilitated 57 separate perceptions. I also know that these abilities to communicate with myself and the physical universe will continue to increase whenever I put my attention on them. Super Power was, for me, very light auditing, changing a lot of considerations that impinged on my certainty.
I have done OT VIII and Cause Resurgence and these actions, as powerful as they are, never touched on the areas that I looked at on this action. With the gains of the Super Study Rundown I have a new freedom to study without being affected by considerations that might reduce my reach to learn. I look forward to continuing my study of the 3rd ACC
with a greatly increased ability to duplicate. My auditor , who was obviously a Super Power completion himself, was totally easy to talk to. I admire his persistence and excellent metering. The staff in the perceptic drill area are very validating, to understate it. The case supervisor, who is invisible, was efficient and standard. Also, the fact that I completed this cycle plus 4 days of set ups in less than three weeks speaks of a well drilled, tone 40 theta factory that has no equal. I strongly recommend this Rundown for anyone who is alive. It will put you in a condition where you can expand that aliveness forever.
I am very grateful to all who helped me accomplish this. Without help, none of us would get much of anything significant done. I especially acknowledge all of us who helped put the building there to deliver this service. Also, the Religious Technology Center, COB, all the staff, and my wife. I thank LRH for giving us this priceless gift. I hope you take advantage of it soon.
Garemeister says
In a Scn. envriron, far far away, in the mid 1970’s, I recall a Grade Chart that listed ACTUAL OT Levels 1 thru 7, with specific EPs for each, (albeit no ACTUAL GPMs, as a prior prerequisite , as a Clear) And all the Advance Magazine articles related storied wins of OBEs, and intention projected. Then all was altered, and all “pre-OT” grades were all relegated to the riddance of fleas……..30 + years of ‘research’ and promises of Superpowers, and the Master was at the helm……?
Mike Wynski says
Garemeister, El Con trashed those OT levels (old IV – VII) in favor of NOTS. They didn’t produce any OTs nor the E.P.s stated. But scamology never produced any Clears either so…
Aquamarine says
I haven’t read the comments yet so forgive me if someone else has already said this, but I think that because DM has no OT9 for the 8s to go on TO, that he has to sell them SOMETHING. I mean, he can’t just allow them to be floating around enjoying their wins and thinking, Xenu forbid, that they are now actually OKAY, because, they HAVE TO be sold SOMETHING – ALWAYS. Ergo, he sells them Super Power, if they haven’t already done it. And the only way to convince an OT8 that he still needs something is to subtly – oh so subtly – have the reg DIS what he got out of OT8 – subtly, now! This has to be FINESSED so that the OT8 still feels very satisfied with his OT8 wins but at the same time hungers for MORE – a sort of icing on the cake, if you please – a kind of superb top off for his “first true OT level” – and here it is, voila! Super Power. And I think this principle, this selling principle, is applied to someone anywhere on the Bridge who is qual’ed to do SP. This is just off the top of my head. Super Power has to be sold, pushed, because its nearly all he’s got, and the OTs, particularly the 8s, have to do SOMETHING.
Jerry Whitfield says
Very true. You nailed it. Wanna buy a bridge? They got a bridge to sell to anyone, anywhere, anytime.
Hennessy says
I recall some sort of hoopla that Super Power would “handle governments” by auditing our political representatives. Thus the need for such a grand building. Whatever happened with that? You never hear anything about “auditing people in government” anymore. Actually just prior to the completion of the SP, now Flag Building. This was once a selling point.
Mephisto says
That goal was abandoned when it was discovered that the majority of them were PDHed and connected to psychs, so the target became unfeasible.
roger gonnet says
Yes, Mike, it’s what I thought as soon as I translated the new INEPTITUDES ™ and later, when I read OT VIII explanations from the swiss-french girl who blew after OTVIII and the disiaster of her rich swiss husband Albert.
You know what? as sson as I read what she said later, I thought: okay, not only it’s not a LRH thing, but it has been written perhaps not even by David Mayo.
The thing looks as if someone was forced into L&N -listing and nulling – a grade IV insanity with tons of rules one was forced to know word by word and demonstrate.
But problem: the OTVIII had no items to start onto, so, no L & N was possible unless one invented old old “indidents” from “past lives” one had been “running” for years or hundreds of hours of so-called auditing.
So, OTVIII is not even a Grade IV thing.
How could you become superOT with such illigical “process”?
I’d like to know who wrote it. As a comparison, the happiness RD had its own logic -apart from being run even on people over 0TIII, auditied by oither scientologists obver OT III – which I did, even when you know you’ll get into “engrams”!
But OTVIII is as ridiculous as running over the pole on 6th stair of the SP’s building*. till you’re tired, but till you think you can neverteless progress some more paces. Like marathoniains, you know?
*yes, the 6th stair of THE SP’s Creator DM!
Mike Wynski says
No roger. OT VIII was written by El Con. Remember, HE never finished VII so he probably didn’t finish writing everything he wanted to about it. Not that it would matter.
Out and about says
OT VIII, THE FINAL BETRAYAL. WHAT A NIGHTMARE!
N. Graham says
It’s like “Ok, sit down and write an advertisement to convince all the OT VIIIs that haven’t taken Super Power yet to do it.” And secretly they are thinking that THIS is finally the time that they will actually find all the powers to move clouds and find parking spaces that they’ve always knew they had in them. Finally they will have some OT stories to send to Advance! Magazine.
Joe Pendleton says
“Super Power made it real to me that we really have tapped into the source of life energy” WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That wasn’t made real to him going all the way through OT8???????????????? Had to be made real on another action? As I said … wow.
Joe Pendleton says
Also … “my auditor was totally easy to talk to” … What the fuck were your OTHER auditors like on Flag, Mark? (as if I can’t guess) Geez!!!!!
Attila Sonkoly says
Beside it was promised, that first all the Sea Org member, then the staff and only much later the public would receive the Super Power in that order…. They were promising the Super Power to come out since at least 1995 – that is when I joined. The push was huge – the super power building is really big. The grade chart changed so much that I don’t know what it is any longer. SHSBC might be off the grade chart – even though Hubbard considered it the most important course. The Grades, the Objectives are not the same. Many clear got told they were not Clear. Similar staff on OT VII…. Redoing courses 4-5 times just to get more money out of the public. Crazy book push. Crazy IAS push. Good bye church, welcome Independent Scientology…
Mephisto says
A day in the life…
Joe, a Sea Org member up at Int is thinking to himself how great it is that DM is giving everyone the evening off to enjoy the fireworks, eat sumptuous food and celebrate Independence Day until he feels someone shaking him violently.
Bill: “Dude, wake up, you’re gonna be late for muster. I hear COB is really pissed cuz the stats are down.”
Joe: “F**k!!!”
Sherbertfrog says
Even if there was such a thing as those mystical OT levels, it would be mindnumbingly foolish to think the destroyer of families would let such a thing exist. COBs foray into destroying the mission network as one of his first public actions in office speaks volumes about how OT Scientology wants people to be. The Salvation Army when its asleep does immeasurably more good than Scientology could do on its best day.
The endless chatter about what the the Cof$ advertises and delivers is nothing more than an expose on how to lie for money, yet avoid criminal charges. I know a couple of certifiable OT 8s (they have framed certificates and all, yee ha) and I only found out the other day they are actually reaching for the SRD! Holy crap Batman, more walls to walk up! But I realized they feel safer being stupid, it’s solid ground for them to strive for something they know others around them won’t. They are so conditioned to being introverted the world outside their bubble is just a smudged blur full of ignorant, uneducated & dangerous things that don’t understand them. Plus they don’t have to explain anything to anyone anymore – just the way they like it. But they can’t see others such as their families aren’t interested anyway. We feel sorrow and pity for them. They actually think we are respecting their privacy or something ridiculous like that, honestly, they truly believe that!
Scientology delivery is aiming for being the best of the best at dehumanizing whoever they can get their ugly mitts on.
Doug Parent says
……it would be mindnumbingly foolish to think the destroyer of families would let such a thing exist. COBs foray……. STOP RIGHT THERE…..THAT IS PERFECT. David Miscavige: “Destroyer of families”. Even though it’s not expansive enough it’s short enough to be punchy and stick.
trimurray says
“My auditor , who was obviously a Super Power completion himself, was totally easy to talk to. I admire his persistence and excellent metering. The staff in the perceptic drill area are very validating, to understate it. The case supervisor, who is invisible, was efficient and standard.”
You really have to read between the lines to understand what these success stories are really saying.
This is what he is actually saying about his auditing. “I wanted to blow from this crummy auditing, the auditor didn’t understand a word I said, he obviously didn’t know what he was doing. My auditor put my attention on the meter with the which told me what was wrong with me and I had to agree or the auditing would have continued and cost me a bundle more (I had to go into total propitiation to the Auditor). Every one of those 3 swing FNs were ARC Break needles. I didn’t really feel any gains but the staff kept telling me what great gains I made. The Case Supervisor was invisible and I couldn’t tell him that this stuff doesn’t work or he would have sent me to ethics”.
That is truly how auditing works today, any auditing.
petlover1948 says
you said it!
Karen#1 says
I am reminded of the sad story of the dentist Carl Smudde of Indiana. Lured in by WISE as they do with cash flow professionals, Carl was relentlessy regged and he could not say NO. Eventually the cult got it all. They got his entire retirement savings after he went up to OT 8.
He decided to go back to work after retirement ~ back to work as a dentist as there was nothing to live on.
However, not long after his OT 8 and all their promises, he developed cancer and died off. The wife and children were left penniless.
The predatory cult had sucked all his $$$$ out of him. RIP Carl.
http://www.tribstar.com/obituaries/dr-carl-a-smudde/article_c697a2cb-6dab-58e9-9151-de5dcfe9b5ef.html
Dave Fagen says
He was a really nice guy. He was on the Student Hat in Chicago, and to get him done by 2:00 on Thursday, I had to drive from Chicago to Carl’s home in Terre Haute, Indiana, to get him through the final requirements and the exam for the course.
Since he was working that day, and would be working the next day, he could not drive to Chicago to finish the course by Thursday at 2:00, and God forbid that we would wait two days for the weekend to get him done!
Well, I got there in the early evening, and finished him on the last requirements and the exam and attest, and then he and his wife served me a huge steak dinner, and asked me to stay the night. They had a full furnished guest room with a bed and everything, and they even gave me a new toothbrush and a new set of pajamas to wear. I stayed up a little late and watched a basketball game on a big-screen TV.
He told me that whenever I would wake up in the morning, that he and his wife would probably have been gone for work by then, and he gave me a house key and told me to leave it under the doormat, which I did.
That was one night of living large for a staff member. I was amazed at Carl’s hospitality.
Old Surfer Dude says
Sounds like Carl was a very good soul, Dave. I love running into people like that.
DodoTheLaser says
Yes. I audited his wife through the lower Bridge. She was very nice and positive. Wonder if she did it for him.
Tommy Prophet says
There’s a “super study’ rundown? Why isn’t it on the student hat? I have been cheated.
My power to study could have been unleashed like a pack of hounds. I want my money back.
Oh, wait, the 90 day guarantee on eternal duration study ability has expired.
iForrest says
4 days of setups? An OT VIII spending 4 days to get his Ruds in? Oh my.
Mephisto says
Serves him right for reading this blog. ?
Old Surfer Dude says
I think I heard that Corn on the COB once said he was a natural OT. I guess he never wanted to actually do the bridge as it would be complete waste of time for him. The psychotic dwarf in NOT a natural OT. He is, though, a Natural Asshole. He was born an Asshole and he’ll die an Asshole. And everything he does has ‘Asshole’ written all over it……
Zola says
It was all his natural oiliness that convinced him he was a natural OT.
Mephisto says
Dave could set his sights on starring in a brand new production of Grease.
Old Surfer Dude says
Yeah, but, no one would be able to grab him! His oiliness would be his Super Power…
Mephisto says
OSD, I think you’re on to Slippery Slappy.
Old Surfer Dude says
Once again, I am humbled by your post: Slippery Slappy. It just doesn’t get any better! Now that’s a name for the ages!
BTW, when is SuMP going to start broadcasting? By the middle of this century?
Mephisto says
Stumped at Sump hoping to make a whale out of Trump.
Jose Chung says
There was so much demand to find out Where David Miscavige was
on the Bridge he proclaimed himself a “Natural OT” Being the COB
and all that nobody questioned that, D.M. is the only one and no tech behind it
since he made it up.
Dio says
Re: The asshole disease or personality disorder:
Dianetics and scientology can cure some problems, if done right, …..but they certainly have no cure for the asshole disease or personality disorder.
Of all the people I have met in scn over 19 yrs, I only met two people who did not have that disease or disorder. And they did not have it before they got in.
Just some people have a more severe case than others.
DM wins first prize for his, plus he has many other disorders, such as world’s biggest megalomaniac, psychopath, sociopath, delusionist, liar, bull shitter and con artist and world’s most dangerous and slippery cult leader.
Dio
Tommy Prophet says
I can vouch for that. I was in for 30+ years and i’m still an asshole.
Old Surfer Dude says
LOL!!! However, I don’t think that’s true, Tommy P!
chuckbeatty77 says
On the RPF today (the 1998 reissued RPF issues) have the “Cleared Cannibal” further “handling” which is read Dale Carnegie books on learning how to be sociable.
So, even after doing the whole damned RPF, cleaning up all your whole track evil purp chains, you still need some reading educating yourself to act more social to offset your wholetrack long term dramatizing “Cleared Cannibalness”.
The way I see it today, a person needs a whole lot of outside reading for achieving resocializing to input regular world saner ideas to refill one’s brain cells which were/are still unfortunately full of Hubbard’s “cannibalism” ideas.
Dio says
I wonder how DM can stand himself?
Dio
Mike Rinder says
He is a sociopath. In his eyes he is perfect.
Old Surfer Dude says
A sociopath on steroids…..
Mike Wynski says
Dio, he learned how to from El Con. 😉
Kronomex says
When you say he’s a natural OT you mean that he’s an Overbearing Turd? If so I wholeheartedly agree.
zemooo says
“Scientology is doing an effective job of erasing the mystique of the OT levels that has for so long been the carrot that kept people going.”
There are many long term limits to the moving target type of scam. What do you do when too many of your marks have reached the ‘final’ end of your scam? Why you move the target and so what if some of your marks drop out, you will have enough income from those remaining. And those remaining are your loyal customers, they want to believe and you have to keep their interest up.
Marketing this ‘moved target’ is the most difficult thing any scammer has to do. It takes courage and a deep abiding want of money to try it. Most scammers just pitch the tent and move to another town to try the old scam again. It takes some big brass balls (or ovaries) to try to extend any scam.
Invalidating the earlier part of the scam is one great way to induce that WTF moment that wakes up the scamee. Stupor Powerz is now in that place. I love WTF moments, they often cause critical thinking to start up again.
Mike Wynski says
The last nail. The Cult of Scamology has admitted the truth. The “bridge” is a farce.
BDT says
Duh! Of course OT 8 didn’t touch what you did on Super Power! They each have their own separate
EP’s and handle different things on your case! No Brainer!
Mike Rinder says
I assume this is tongue in cheek.
It is of note that when clear you have no reactive mind. And then once OT VII you have no BT’s and Clusters that are putting “their case” on you.
So, by OT VIII there is no “case” to handle…. you are now supposedly enhancing the powers of the thetan himself. You would think by that point he would have overcome his barriers to studying and would be able to think pretty straight and not have to rely on “body perceptics” like saline in the bloodstream to interact with the physical universe.
McCarran says
And hopefully he’s in present time (but then that’s a reference to the SRD and its OT VIII Success Stories – just as ludicrous).
Joe Pendleton says
Mike, wonderfully put!
rogerHornaday says
My other gains went away after attesting but these gains won’t go away! You know how I know they won’t? I’ll tell you… because now I’m CERTAIN!
MostEthicalPimp says
more like certifiable
Old Surfer Dude says
Because I’m Certain
Clap along if you think that Happiness is the truth
Because I’m Certain
Clap along if you think that Happiness is for you
Because I’m Certain
Clap along if you feel like room without a roof
Because I’m Certain
Clap along if you feel like that’s what you want to do.
Robert Almblad says
Selling OT VIII’s the bottom of the Bridge was doomed from the beginning as it put them in the same course room with newbies who could figure out the squirrel cage Bridge even if a beaten down OTVIII couldn’t. The mystique is gone if the bottom of the Bridge is better than the top.
Mephisto says
When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride
Till I get to the bottom and I see you again
Mephisto says
I thought the Cause Resurgence Rundown, aka the Running Program, was the coolest thing ever. Who knew? So glad he didn’t forget to thank COB (or was he reminded). After all, a success story cannot be considered complete without that most important acknowledgement.
His Scientology ‘win’ reminds me of Al Jolson’s famous line from The Jazz Singer: “Wait a minute, wait a minute I tell yer, you ain’t heard nothin’ yet.”
Old Surfer Dude says
Wait……WTF? He actually wrote his OWN success story? Well I’ll be! And here I thought they always handed the person the proper Success Story. No reason to burden the individual with having to write one.
Mephisto says
He might have had help in the form of a Dan Sherman template.
Old Surfer Dude says
Now that’s what I’m talkin’ ’bout! A Dan Sherman template! Just sign your name and be on your way…..
Mephisto says
Scientology, the cookie cutter religion.
Old Surfer Dude says
Hmnmmmmm…you’ve got something there, Mephisto. We’GEtll market it to the masses…
People can get religion as well as cookies! Now that’s a sweet deal!
McCarran says
Thank you markthekeyman for your beautiful success story on Super Power. I am an OT VIII and am glad to read that you got something even greater out of Super Power than OT VIII. This inspires me to reach for Super Power even more, especially since I am one of those that made the Super Power Bldg happen and even have my little gold shovel I received as a Cornerstone Member when the dig started in 1998. Because I am a Cornerstone Member I get a 45% discount on Super Power (or at least that’s what I was told in 1998) but the process I am looking most forward to is the one that corrects wrong ethics conditions and actions.
Let me know when that little tyrant of a sociopathic leader of yours is removed or in jail or dead.
See you on the other side of that rainbow; I’ll look for the guy holding the pot of gold.
Mephisto says
Alas dear McCarran, it’s a pot of goldenrod.
Old Surfer Dude says
And as of today…I STILL haven’t gotten one! I must be way low on the totem pole! Oh well…being po’ white trailer trash wit page numbers on my toilet, I understanding what my station in life is….
Mephisto says
Perhaps Anderson Cooper can do a piece on ‘Where’s My Goldenrod?’
Old Surfer Dude says
Another outstanding idea, Mephisto! He hates them as much as we do!
Mephisto says
Hate them? Nah. Where else can you get so much good comedy fodder?
McCarran says
Good one. It’s flying around in the church’s whisper campaigns I’m sure. I never got one either.
BUT! I got my little gold shovel in 1998; I guess it’s for shoveling the shitload I got fed for all those years.
Mephisto says
I’m sure it’s not big enough to handle all the manure-vers of Davey.
Old Surfer Dude says
I heard Davy is coming out with anew trophy: The Cow Pie with the fragrance of defeat.
Aquamarine says
Bitter Defrocked Apostate Snark Alert:
McCarran, they gave you little golden shovel, huh? That and a dollar will buy you a lottery ticket. Phony, scheming, scamming cult. Someday when DM drops dead try and be present at his funeral. Bring that little golden shovel, scoop up a clod of dirt and plop it onto his grave as they lower him 6 feet under.
pie_face says
You guys are on a roll!
dr mac says
If CoS is reducing the mystique of the OT levels, good luck to them. If I’d stopped scn before getting onto the OT levels, I’d probably still be raving about it today. I got NOTHING from OT levels, but I got life changing wins from the earlier Bridge (that is, life-changing to the degree that a salary increase can also be life changing).
Cindy says
I know Mark Greison who wrote that Success Story. He completed OT VII in around 2000 to 2002. So except for doing OT VIII, that is a span of 16 years of no more auditing to be had on your Bridge. I think these OT VIII’s jump at the opportunity to do ANYTHING on the Bridge because many of them have had 16 or more years of no auditing and no game so to speak of in Scn. They may be bored and yearning for something else they can do on the Bridge to get the elusive OT Powers they wanted from the beginning. Training used to be a big part of the game, but now there is NO BC and NO Class VIII Course. I don’t even see many completing Class IV Auditor Internships these days. When you read the completions list, it is mostly lower Bridge stuff and Purif and Super Power. So I think this is why the OT’s jump at the opportunity to re-do their lower Bridges: as Ron says, any game is better than no game.
Mephisto says
I would argue that some games are worse than no games.
Newcomer says
I think the reason Cindy has more to do with the fact that unless they are doing ‘something’ on the bridge, then they might be suspect of being disaffected. That leads down the path of MAA interrogations and sec checks …. not good!
The only other option might be major participation on their Ohh Tea Committee or major donos but if you are broke, the cheapest option would be a long drawn out objectives co-audit or even better, a ten or fifteen year cycle of extension courses ………………… to make sure you have your basics on the cult ….. IN.
Oh yes, and it is very important to have a relative that is ill who needs attention ….. esp. during maidan vouerage events.
Cindy says
Good points, New kid on block.
Brian says
To be convinced that the truth is always a rundown away is truly sad.
To be convinced that finding the truth is beyond our personal grasp and only available from Ron’s “findings” is tragic for personal confidence and real personal power.
To assign increased spiritual awareness to an outside source is the absolute antithesis to spiritual knowledge. Which is only found through self effort and following tried and true procedures on a daily basis.
What an intellectual prison. These delusional wins are exactly the same that were in the Advanced Mag of the early 70s.
When delusion are the doctrines sold, learned and agreed to, hocus pocus is the outcome.
Sucker says
Of course he likes Super Power better than OT 8.Of course,Super power is like meat and potatoes grade stuff.Nobody ever complained about the grades.
Ot 8 is just one question:Think of a past identity.Then look at meter: True,False?
It is all false.
So you never had a reactive mind because you were mocking it up(I never was how about you?)
Then you get pushed into past lives and then you discover end of the ride: No past lives.OT8:Truth revealed:You’ve been scammed.
Arnie Lerma says
Re; “Nobody ever complained about the grades”
Why is it that Hypnotic therapies are also noted as “working” best at the beginning of therapy?
And, If one google’s Bad Effects of Hypnosis, that description mirrors the horrors stories of scientology.? https://arnielerma.wordpress.com/2015/10/24/hypnosis-in-scientology-and-dianetics-cliff-notes-for-deprogramming-a-scientologist/
Brian says
Not all auditing is hypnosis. Remembering real moments that have causal relations to present circumstances, then experiencing relief or more understanding is called a discriminating intelligence.
Without it, we can never intelligently resolve or solve anything.
Differenciating and thus becoming more aware of the thought and their interrelations is a human boon not a hypnotic trap.
Arnie Lerma says
Veddy Eenteresting…
I may be mistaken, and I have made mistakes, but I believe I wrote a couple pages a decade ago about what you describe. Google “The Confusion Technique” Top two links are my pages.
Mike Wynski says
Bingo Arnie. I realized that on Grade 0 and bailed. I made a VERY poor hypno subject so it was agony to sit there for hours on end.
Arnie Lerma says
You are a lucky one. I was in for 7 years until shock therapy provided by some guys Mike might know about, whom, with Suzette Hubbard’s help woke me up from Hubbard’s trance. http://tinyurl.com/jopmhw8
T.J. says
Arnie Lerma, thank you for that link! That’s fascinating information. I had never really delved into the subject of hypnosis and subtle mind control before this and I really appreciate your link to this information. It makes a lot of sense to me. It’s especially fascinating how Hubbard incorporated psychological methods and hypnosis into Scientology. Say what you will about Hubbard, like him or dislike him, the man was still brilliant in some of the things he did. After all, he did create a new “religion” with many followers and amassed millions of dollars. Breaking down the strategies he used is really illuminating. I like learning about this, as I really think one should accumulate as much knowledge about the self as possible, it helps to counteract those who would seek to manipulate and influence. Thanks again, T.J.
Arnie Lerma says
Nearly all the things that I had hoped to gain by joining Scientology, I found, to my astonishment, are attainable by deconstructing how the trick was done.
One Ex-Flag Director of Training was so impressed with this booklet when I showed it to him, that he turned it into a pdf because he said all recovering scientologists need to read it. You should pass this one around, it’s ‘free’.
https://www.quora.com/Are-Scientology-rituals-hypnotic/answer/Arnaldo-Lerma
Parting thought: One of the old hypnotists, named Ralph Slater, who played Carnegie Hall several times during the winter of 1949/1950 said that “Intelligent people make the best hypnotic subjects” and all the old hypnotists say in one form or another that this was because “Intelligent people can control their minds better” Yes this information is mind blowing,
PS: Do not try to digest it or read my stuff too quickly, because there are no quickie grades on the bridge out of scientology. Bad habitual thinking digs grand canyon deep furrows in the mind through which later thoughts naturally flow. It takes dedication, self discipline and time to really change one’s mind.