The “ideal” org in Plymouth is rocking and rolling according to the latest quotes from “church spokespuppet” in The Herald as you can see below.
This spokespuppet is caught trying to explain the unexplainable. Which is why you rarely see ANY quotes from any official church spokespuppets in any media anywhere.
She knows she has to tell “acceptable truths” — she cannot say they “haven’t raised the money” and are not allowed to have their designs done until they have paid in advance, so she has to say the incredible, that after 4 years it’s a “long process” as we “want to get the scheme just right.”
And then she has to give the highest realistic invented figures she can to make things look really flourishing and prospering in this Golden Age of Everything, so daringly says they have “up to 70 people” attending events and Sunday Services “regularly attract between 30 and 40 people” and she is lying awake at night hoping that the reporter doesn’t show up on Sunday to see for himself.
3.5 million pounds for “up to 70 people” is really out there.
70 people to raise 2.5 million is 35,000 pounds per imaginary person. The real figure is probably more like 25 and it means 100,000 per person.
Chance of this happening is zero.
Scientologists ‘still in design phase’ for Plymouth hotel
| Posted: September 03, 2014
By TRISTAN NICHOLS Herald Reporter@tristan_nichols
Royal Fleet Club
But four years on scientologists in Plymouth say there is still “no set date” for either a planning application for the site, or an official opening date.
“We are still in the design phase of the project,” said Lisa Coffey, community affairs director for the Church of Scientology Plymouth.
“It’s a historic building, so it’s important to keep the historical features. Ultimately we want to restore it to its former glory.
“A lot of money is being spent on the design phase, but unfortunately we have no set date at the moment.
“There are about ten stages to opening a new Church of Scientology building, and we are now at about stage five or six.”
Lisa said that the current main focus for the Church of Scientology in the UK was on opening a new site in Birmingham.
“After the Birmingham site is open we’ll be looking at Plymouth and Manchester,” she said.
“Once Birmingham is open, we will have more of an idea of when Plymouth will open.
“We’re desperate to open it soon, but these things take time.”
After buying the Royal Fleet Hotel – formerly the Royal Fleet Club – from Midlands-based businessman Kailash Suri in the summer of 2010, The Church of Scientology outlined ambitious plans for the 114-year-old site in Morice Square.
The plans included a library, chapel, information centre, book store, course and lecture rooms, offices and a cafe.
Weddings could also be hosted at the site.
As well as promising to fully refurbish the premises, the scientologists also said they were hoping to employ 150 staff to run the site, which they believe will be attended by “tens of thousands” of people every year.
Scientologists had been searching for properties in Plymouth for three years before buying the Royal Fleet Hotel.
They said they were looking to open a “bold” and “prominent” new church which would replace the current Church of Scientology base in Ebrington Street, which has is deemed as being “too small” for the needs of scientologists.
It has about 3,000 to 5,000 square feet of floor space. The new Devonport church will have about 40,000 square feet.
Scientology was officially recognised as a “religion” in December last year after Britain’s highest court swept aside 158 years of law to rule that worshipping a god is not essential to religion.
Lisa told The Herald that “attitudes are changing” towards scientology, and that Plymouth scientologists had been “working hard in the community” to help people.
“We have carried out a lot of surveys to see what people are keen for us to work on,” she said.
“There has been a high response to helping deal with drug problems in the city.
“The response has been favourable to what we’re trying to do.”
Lisa said that up to 70 people were now attending scientology events in Plymouth.
Sunday services at the Ebrington Street site regularly attract between 30 and 40 people.
Read more: http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Scientologists-design-phase-hotel/story-22867602-detail/story.html#ixzz3CFu2bYiz
Read more at http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Scientologists-design-phase-hotel/story-22867602-detail/story.html#ik0sQ1vJShiskvsl.99
I live not far from Plymouth ‘Ideal Org’ – and the more modest premises that Plymouth Scientologists currently struggle to pay the rent for.
The picture of the ‘Ideal Org’ building shown in this newspaper article is four years old. Since then, the lack of maintenance is starting to show – I have posted more recent high-res images of the building (and the plants now growing out if its façade) which can be accessed here http://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/06/06/plymouth-uk-ideal-org-a-reality-check-in-bricks-and-mortar/
“We’ve carried out a lot of surveys to see what people are keen for us to work on.” I find this statement to be patently absurd and it makes me want to scream. The wins of pcs/preots and well trained auditors, THAT’S what you’re supposed to do lady, that’s ALL you’re supposed to do. Your group is entirely off purpose and in treason to LRH and you’re surveying the community, so you know what dev-t you can get involved in, so you can take pr points for looking like a charity, when you’re in fact lying like a rug and only interested in generating more funds to make the pile bigger. Ugh!!!
Well said, Hallie Jane. And the truth is that NO, they did NOT do a survey to find out what the wog public want from Scns. They did nothing of the sort. They just claimed that “drug education” or “the drug problem” was the surveyed button so that they could then say that they they are the only ones correcting the problem with LRH tech. It is just a front group wolf in sheep’s clothing scam to make the church look good, win brownie points, make them look like “a real church” doing “real good.” That is all. It’s also a way to white-wash all the evil that has been perpetrated by Dave and the church. And when Narconon had wins, the church and Davie took all the credit for it. Now that Narconon has cost people their lives and is being sued right and left, the church has amnesia and never remembers ever being connected to Narconon. I would have liked that reporter to ask her a question about whether the church is connected to Narconon as long as we’re on the subject of drug abuse. Now that would be the million dollar question!
Right Cindy. That white wash is like a bad paint job with no primer.
Whoa Hallie Jane, talk about kicking the cult’s ass, and I just keyed out reading your comment, so thank you!
My pleasure! 🙂
Off topic, but Auditor’s Day is supposed to be the first week in September, which would be this weekend, and so far as I know there have been no announcements about an event, while at the same time the Easybake and GAGII are trumpeted as the solution to salvaging this sector of the galaxy.
Aquamarine, You are correct and spot on.
Auditors day is a thing of the past. Even Deer know when the first day of hunting is
,likewise Auditors that are still around take to the hills for good reason.
Couple of things:
First, Ms. Lisa calls herself “Director of Community Affairs”, a post title nowhere on the Org Board so I’m assuming its code and she’s the DSA, the only one trained to deal vis a vis with merchant of chaos types like this reporter from a local paper.
Second: I’m thinking the cult had no choice but to grant this interview in that nothing has seemingly happened with this building since its purchase 4 years ago making the locals’ curiosity about it understandable.
Third: She had to have been in a tight spot, needing to fend off any local town censure for the lack of progress while at the same time ensuring that anything she said would not offend Makemerich via any statement that could be interpreted as non-progress.
This is ulcer-producing stuff. Hope she blows soon.
“It’s quite a long process because we want to ensure that we get the scheme just right.”
Yeah..they’re scheming all right!
Alex, when I sit and really look over the damage dave has done, not just the damage he has directly or indirectly caused but when I think of what could have been, its barely confrontable. And Im with you in your rage at that. A pleasure moment for me is the thought of an updated LRH and dave in the same room, for probably 30seconds I reckon would be ample time!
Dave is a fool, Scientology IS the game where everyone wins, and he never got it! Any dig at dave, at whatever point on the tone scale is ok by me, the more holes in that dyke the better.
Im with you 99.9% of your comm, but if a clever comment undermines that bastard just a little bit, Im for it.
Well said 4a! Also Alex, I agree completely with the horribleness of all this and take your point. For me the humor that Mike’s blog offered was an important component of making the serious confront more palatable. Some days it is quite hard to handle someone’s story of personal loss and the humor does help a little. It makes me more able to carry on and add to the effort of exposing truth. I think it’s a good blend. We have the right to have fun and enjoy our lives, which is the opposite of the cruelty and abuse in the current rcs. I believe staking that claim is an important part of our recovery, especially for those who lost it. Thanks for your passion.
Thank you Alex. Point well taken. I’d like to see more people come out on the blogs and shed the UTR status if you can. And I’d like to see us all unite and pull together to get the word out to the KA drinkers and SO members… maybe an ad campaign, billboard campaign, something.
It’s not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog.
Dwight Eisenhower , Supreme Allied Commander on D Day
Hello mike,
Loving the blog,very informative, I just thought I would fill everyone in with the details of the so called Plymouth ideal org for people who dont know what Plymouth is like. I was in Plymouth not so long ago and have been based there for many years. Where the so called future of the ideal org is going to be is not a particularly affluent area of Plymouth, Devonport, they are going to demolish a load of flats around it which how would I say it, are long past their sell by date, it is a few a couple of miles from the town centre and very near to the dockyard. The Royal Fleet Club was initially a hotel set up by a charitable foundation to give cheap accomodation for mainly military wives and families,but as the Navy has contracted so much there was not much of a call for the place and the money dried up. A Birmingham based buisnessman bought it a few years ago for well over a million pounds with the view to making it a luxury hotel, but very soon realised that he was onto a loser due to its location and that Plymouth is not really much of a tourist destination. I think he lost quite a bit of money selling it to COS. I was at a loose end on a Saturday and I thought I would check out the org in Ebrington street. I sat opposite the org in a bar for a couple of hours on a saturday, reading one of Marty’s books and I saw no-one but staff going in and out of the Org. In fact they were advertising for staff, and sat at the desks looking bored. They used to have a free stress test cart down one of the main shopping streets but that disappeared about a year ago!!!
I have fond memories of the Royal Fleet Club, such a shame!!!
Hey, I have an idea: why don’t we all, each of us, anonymously or under our own names, write to the local papers of towns where there are buildings sitting for years that were purchased by the cult, and urge the local newspapers to get an interview? All we would need would be a list of such buildings, like this Plymouth one. We could gen the newspaper people in on the real why for the buildings just sitting there, and then they could go for the interview and ask some interesting questions. I’m game!
Aqua, this is a great idea!
I live in Plymouth, and keep an eye out for the ‘stress test’ handcart. We have had a wonderful summer, and the weather is still gloriously sunny – perfect conditions for ‘dissemination’.
However, the handcart was last deployed about 3 months ago – I saw it through the org’s ‘shop window’, ready to go, along with about 12 people being briefed.
I have seen one or two people occasionally handing out leaflets in the city centre. At first, they were faux cinema tickets, which invited recipients to come to the Org to see a ‘film’. Lately they have been very dated ‘order forms’ for copies of “Dianetics” (no email, no, web address and asking for payment by cheque/postal order).
This lack of activity during an extended period of glorious weather suggests that they simply cannot scrape up enough people to work the handcart – .and can’t even afford new leaflets.
“we are at about stage five or six”
“ABOUT … five or six”
So it could be stage four, or maybe seven.
Translation: “I have no idea what is going on, what will happen next, nor when it will happen, if at all”
Really on top of things there, Lisa.
If an oncologist said they were about stage five or six, that would be all we needed to know.
Good one Bonny! 🙂
Greta
Everyone here is trying to be funny or witty, and there is little mention of the fact that instead of publishing results of the application of the Old Scientology Tech, which so many of you are knowledgeable of, Miscavage focus is on refufurbishing fucking buldings which in the end remain just EMPTY REFURBISHED BUILDINGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing funny about the imbecil kool aid addicts who are biting into David Miscriminal scam. Nothing funny about the the fact that David Miscam is just lining his pockets while staff (deluded willing slaves) are barely making a living while neglecting their own welfare and that of their families for the sake of “clearing the planet” and for the sake of their “eternity”, subjects which are solely David Miscriminal perfect method of keeping people under his control. Nothing funny about those who have lost family members to the “non-existing” disconnection policy.. Nothing funny about those people who are now bankrupt after dedicating many years to “clearing the Planet”. And nothing funny about Lisa having been C/Sed by David Miscavage. LRH may have been anyting bad you can think of today,
but he would have never allowed or condoned what David Miscavige has done since he passed away. In his last days, LRH trusted David Miscavige, just like Mozart trusted Salieri. He didn’tknow Miscavige was looking forward to his death so that he could take over and play his own corrupt game of wealth and power.
The public that reads this blog needs to know the truth. Funny, witty remarks don’t help a lot to the purpose of exposing David Miscavige and his criminal acts. Get serious folks. Publish what you know about the truth and contribute to the demise of the person who betrayed you and made your life miserable at one time or another, all because you were a Scientologist and you wanted to help and be helped.
I am not someone new. I am an old timer going as far back as 1968, having ended my Scientology/SO journey in 1981.
I say again dear bloggers, use your energy in providing information that will help expose this criminal MF David Miscavige for what he is. Wit and clever comments don’t really help.
Alex Castillo
(ex-Flag Management Evaluator-1974-1981)
Well Alex, there is always humor when things may otherwise be somewhat grim.
“Many theories exist about what humour is and what social function it serves. The prevailing types of theories attempting to account for the existence of humour include psychological theories, the vast majority of which consider humour-induced behaviour to be very healthy; spiritual theories, which may, for instance, consider humour to be a “gift from God”; and theories which consider humour to be an unexplainable mystery, very much like a mystical experience.”
And I don’t think Davis Miscaviage is a big fan of it either but to each, his own (expression).
Alex,
You are absolutely correct and humor will not stop Miscavige.
Humor was the only weapon England had prior to the start WW2
to stop Adolf Hitler. It was a start, that all, to get people to confront evil.
Serious work needs to be done to put things right and the Indie
movement is still looking for it’s Winston Churchill.
Long list of names you omitted like Rex Fowler, Biggi Richerct,
many others including staff. I can say this that the A Shaw Valley ,Vietnam
was called the Valley of death not for some whimsical note. Those who lived to
come home had one thing in common, a sense of humor despite everything.
Maybe this helps, plenty of work to do.
Good comment Alex. I’ll support you. I too have been face to face with criminals and I have seen the muzzle fire of the gun pointed at my face and there is nothing funny about that shit at all. And I even chased the motherfuckers down when they ran out of bullets. Anybody with a smile on their face when the real shit comes down and I am all over them.
But I am continually draw by wit and humor in order to relax a little and let others relax. There are some that need to relax a little. And one of my favorite things is to see a person smile. I continually work for that when I’m around others.
Al Brown – Scn since 1972, OEC/FEBC/Exec Status III since 1988
Hey, the Royal Fleet Club is about to become the Royal Fleece Club! Won’t that be special.
Bonny, Was your last name Kincaid during the 1970’s. If so email me at wolfie2@hush.com.
Yea right, 150 staff. Boy that fine line between postulates and not isness is getting so wide you can’t see the other side.
“The idea that things take a long time to build is a FALSE DATUM!”
— David Miscavige, Chairman of the
Board, Religious Technology Center
“We’re desperate to open it soon, but these things take time.”
— Lisa Coffey, Community Affairs
Director, Church of Scientology,
Plymouth
I’m confused.
Not as confused as they are 🙂
Great catch. Wish I had thought of it!
The new empty org buildings throughout the world are indeed very beautiful. They are tons better than the funky quarters we had in the 70s when we were packing ’em in. Is this what in Scientology is meant as an “outpoint”? Probably not; otherwise at least one one of those super highly trained and processed individuals would have noticed it and applied the correct condition formula and fixed it.
So per Lisa, there are 70 people who regularly frequent Plymouth’s church and that they are “desperate” to open up the new one because 3-4,000 square feet of floor space isn’t big enough for them. I doubt that those 70 people are ever there at the same time, except to watch a videoed event possibly.
What really gets me is why would 70 people need a 40,000 square foot space and why the reporter wouldn’t question Lisa on that. It’s such an incongruous statement.
Lisa told The Herald that “attitudes are changing” towards scientology.”
Aha! she told one truth. LMAO!!!
It is really sickening to see all this lying and effort go into this retarded pipe dream of DM. This whole enterprise ONLY hurts people. There is nothing positive in this ideal org bullshit. Even with all the “religious protection” that it is afforded, this dead corpse will collapse in upon itself. And there will be nothing DM will be able to do about it.
Teegeeack, as long as DM “retires” with control of millions of $ (which he most likely will) I don’t think he cares if the “church” collapses.
LRH also spent his last years making sure that his illegally skimmed millions stayed out of the hands of the tax collector and HE out of jail for felony tax evasion. The church and scientologists be damned.
Similar play, different characters.
Yes, but LRH had to go into hiding. If the cherch collapses sooner rather than later then I presume DM would have to go into hiding as well. It is more difficult these days to hide then when LRH did it, and it is not much of a life in any case.
…all this constant lying….” It IS mind boggling, Battlefield. The LYING! About everything! 50 shades of grey in varying degrees of LYING!
Teegeeack, LRH went into hiding from the Gov. DM won’t have to do that. DM will just “hide” from scientologists. VERY easy to do with the amount of money he will still control.
“Retarded pipe dream of dm” is perfect description! Btw, I refuse to capitalize his initials on purpose.
Yes, the ‘attitude toward Scientology is changing”, On that she is right, the people in general are becoming more aware of Scn for what it really is: a fraudulent, criminal scheme to get money, rip off families, taking years to ‘renovate’ buildings, et al while its leader amasses billions of dollars. Tick Tock…..
Yes Silvia, so true. And what is with the buying of absolutely HUGE buildings with tons of square footage? Is this just so he has a way to launder the money he brings in so that the IRS will see that it went for buying spaces for the flock and thus is exempt from taxation?
Or…lining his pockets?
Cindy, huge buildings are his “proof” to the parishioners that Scientology is expanding, so they’ll keep donating to his Ideal (M)org Program, and as Mike R explained in a recent article, huge buildings are also his proof to the IRS that Scientology is providing for its parishioners, and lastly, its mostly not Makemerich’s money that’s being spent so why not buy big?
With all these BIG buildings he’s amassing, do you think he is trying to compensate for something, er, well, small?
Also, as Mike pointed out, the purchase and renovation of huge buildings buys Makemerich MORE TIME, in that he said that OT9 won’t be released until EVERY org is Ideal.
Now, sooner or later in his lifetime he’s going to have to cobble something together and call it OT9, its a safe bet that he’d prefer it to be later – much later.
Think about how Dorothy, the Scarecrow, the Tin Man and the Cowardly Lion, beaming with happiness and full of trust, trekked back to the Emerald City to inform The Wizard of their amazing fait accompli – the Wicked Witch of the West was no more, they did it! And to claim their promised rewards. Wizard: “Uh, yes, well, about those rewards…”
Really, all Scientology orgs going Ideal rapidly would have to be on his top ten list for nightmares.
“Scheme” “3. A plan, esp. a secret or devious one” (American Heritage Dictionary)
That’s probably one of the most honest things they’ve ever said.
But with a whopping 70 in Plymouth, and the other 1711 scattered around the rest of England and Wales, one wonders where the ‘tens of thousands’ will come from. For that matter, whence the 150 staff?
If no whales – look for Orcas!
Greta
I’m not a commercial real estate developer
but one does not need to be to see through
their BS.
How many high rise buildings has Donald
Trump constructed from the ground up and
fully occupied in the past four years?
And how many projects is he working on
that will be completed in the next four years?
I’m not even mentioning all of the building
codes, city councils and unions he has to deal
with.
Good lord, Miscavige has really no major obstacles
in getting these buildings done aside of course, stealing
the money he needs from his parishioners.
Stages?……there is really only one stage…..steal the $.
Just a note: Donald Trump doesn’t build many buildings. He licenses his filthy name out to developers all over the world who want to add some cheeseball cachet to their skyscrapers. But your point stands. Lots of people know how to buy, build and renovate buildings in a lot shorter time than it takes COS.
Mike,
These Potemkin Villages that Miscavige is busily erecting are only fooling those who have already been fooled. No new public, just the same internal public getting fleeced over and over again. And the desperation gets ratcheted up with each hyperbolic pronouncement from the “church.”
Mike, you are 100% spot on! Great post! As Mike Rinder said once, they only people who would go into an Idle Morgue, are those who have never heard of Google. If one goes on youtube and types in “scientology,” it’s about 99% against the cult. It’s overwhelmingly negative infomation. Like a tsunami of bad shit about them. NO ONE new is coming in. I was in Pasadena yesterday checking out the cult. With high powered binoculars, I was a block or more away and I could see the front door clearly. Like every other day, it was dead. When I walked past, the receptionist had his head down. He did look up at me as I passed by. He was not a happy camper.
Mike Leopold, I do have a question for you: Potemkin Villages.” Is this from the old USSR? And what were the villages for?
OSD — Google is your friend 🙂
This is the first para of the Wiki entry:
The phrase “Potemkin village” (also “Potyomkin village”, derived from the Russian: Потёмкинские деревни, Potyomkinskiye derevni) was originally used to describe a fake village, built only to impress. According to the story, Grigory Potemkin erected fake settlements along the banks of the Dnieper River in order to fool Empress Catherine II during her journey to Crimea in 1787. The phrase is now used, typically in politics and economics, to describe any construction (literal or figurative) built solely to deceive others into thinking that some situation is better than it really is. Some modern historians claim the original story is exaggerated.
Mike, I SHOULD HAVE GOOGLED IT! Thanks, though. I knew it had something to do with Russia.
It would really be cool if the place was haunted.
there is a very good chance of that = part of Great Britain’s heritance…
Don’t let any OT clean them out. This could at least be used for tourist tours and get a few British pounds
that way.
Greta
Stages 1 thru 9: beg, steal, coerce “donations” from members
Stage 10: make sure there is a step stool behind the podium for Cob’s speech/ribbon cutting
Every time $camatology attempts a bit of PR all it does is provide opportunities for critics to tell the real story. So far there are only three comments at the foot of the ‘Herald’ article, but each one is critical.
Scientology PR = Automatic Foot-bullet.
I guess this is the “Friday Funnies”. These people make asses out of themselves every time they try to cover up the insanity of the cult. I loved the part about the 10 stages and they are already up to 5 or 6. Dave is probably taking notes for the next international BS event.
I liked the stages thing too Mat.
My first thought….well is it five
or is it six????? Surely our grand
master would not tolerate such wishy
washy responses.
Screw the Internet as Scientology’s “Vietnam”.
They are bogged down in an unwinnable quagmire by simple math and spelling.
Alanzo
Birmingham isn’t going to open any time soon, if ever, which means Plymouth is never going to open.
And what happened to Manchester??? That was the first Ideal Org in the UK it was announced at the LRH Birthday Game Event 2007 to an EXTREMELY shocked Birmingham public (Birmingham had been first in everything and had dominated the UK stats for over a decade) – I didn’t even clap I was like wtf??? How did Manchester do that?….Well it looks like they didn’t.
What means WTF .. I have often asked me
WTF means What the f**k.
You can google any word you don’t understand. Google is your friend 🙂
“What The F**k”
wtf = what the f*ck 🙂
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=WTF&page=2
And, Friend, WTF is a great way to express yourself! Like when you drive by an empty Idle Morgue, you can mutter under your breath, WTF!!!
I thought it meant “why the face?” thanks for clearing up THAT mu, guess I wont be saying wtf to kids at the kindy anymore!
LOLOLOLOL, 4a That is hilarious. Oh I needed that laugh. I think I’m going to start saying, “Why the FACE!” Lol
I’m not laughing at you. It’s priceless.
Wait a minute now…4a, I think you’re on to something! WTF, “why the face?” If you go by or into these Idle Morgues, you see staff with long faces everywhere. These are not happy times for these folks. In fact, the next time I’m in Pasadena checking out their Idle Morgue, I’m going to walk by and stop in front of the door, look at the receptionist, who’s head is always down, and say, “Hey! Why the face???”
Drove past the one on Ebrington Street a few weeks ago early evening. To be fair, I didn’t go inside. But no signs it was ‘bursting at the seams’ either. No one visible through the windows. No one outside. Crappy part of town.
Ever since the 80s the Org in Plymouth has always been the runt of the UK litter. I did two missions there in the early 80s and it was never more than a handful of people each staff and public. The only “upstat” local public I am aware of is Dr Dorothy West who as of 2009 was going through the motions of supporting an Ideal Org in Plymouth with begging letters. But the idea they could service “tens of thousands” of public is so far out in fantasyland I have to wonder what Lisa Coffey is smoking.
The UK does not have the whales that the US has. There is no possible way that any of these Ideal Orgs are going to be completed exclusively by funds from the Scientology public. Which means that either these Ideal Orgs will never be completed or David Miscavige will be forced, due to the pressure of bad PR to buy the buildings and pay for the renovations himself…But if he does that the Orgs won’t even be able to afford their heating bills…Scientology is so screwed.
What’s with the UK not having any whale public? Not one? Obviously the population is much smaller than the US, but the UK does have very wealthy people living in it. Perhaps its a blessing though, less financial power flowed to The Cult Leader.
Scientology: A unique religion in praise of surveys.
hgc10, are you saying: The lights are on but nobody’s home?”
Old Surfer Dude, I wasn’t saying that, but it’s true anyway. I was noting how hilarious it is that the church is so steeped in Blubbard’s “Admin Tech” that a spokesperson would automatically mention that they have conducted some of those all-important surveys to determine what the public wants them to be doing, and that the answer happens to be something that the church likes to claim that they do anyway (drugs!).
Indeed, if actual surveys had been conducted, which I don’t believe for a minute anyway, the public reaction would have ranged between “who the fuck are they” and “get the fuck out.”
Nice, hgc10! There were NO surveys. Of that I’m sure. And…you’re absolutely right about the reaction of “the pubic” to any survey from this cult: Get the fuck out of here!
Well, Hole Gross Cunt to the 10th power …. shove it up your ass.
Mike – I am sorry I cannot help ypu in your life-long quest to destroy Scientology. I really can’t. You fucked it over in the church, and now outside the church, you continue to fuck it over. I forgive you, and I pity you.
Dave,
What stage are you on in your White Elephants Anonymous recovery program?
“Scientology: A unique religion in praise of surveys.”
And don’t forget Sales Quotas.