Things keep popping up showing the desperation within the bubble.
This is one of the strangest in recent memory.
Sharron Weber, the Captain FSSO — the woman responsible for moving every human being on earth through OT VIII, the first “true OT level” has so little to keep her occupied that she is sending out letters begging people to come in to do filing at Valley Org.
This is really what she is spending her time doing? Tells you how many people are moving through OT VIII — I bet they are lucky if they get one a week…
Don’t forget (as if any readers here need reminding…) to watch A&E tonight. This episode focuses on the Bridge and tells the story of Mary Kahn and family (she comments here as McCarran).
I don’t know if anyone has done the math, but 400 man hours a day is 16 people working 24 hours.
So assuming everyone works in 8 hour shifts, that would mean 48 people per day for 8 hours
As if there are 48 active Scientologists in the Valley
And what about people who work full time? They’re supposed to work a full day then go and put in another 8 hours at the Org? Filing?
Talk about optimistic!
Mike,
Thank you for your and Leah’s efforts to expose the abusive practices of the church of Scientology. I know your struggles have been many, but your determination is admired by many many people. I do want to ask one question. How can a non-Scientology church member best help you in your cause?
David – thank you.
Call your Congressman and Senators and ask they do something about scientology abusing people and families.
Watch the show and tell others to do so. SPread the word about it on social media and to your friends.
Continue to support media coverage of the show.
Listen OSA, it’s gonna be a long night, week, month who knows how long. The guy is obviously insane. Come to your senses and just leave. Many of us have been exactly where you are. Get some sleep and something to eat if you can.
Message to McCarren
You are amazing
Notice Captain Webber’s comment that the finance records are all “in PT”. No shit. Of course the money part of this is going to be settled. It wouldn’t be Scientology otherwise.
LRH said that Central Files was the “brain” of the org. If so, every org has a terminal case of organic brain disease, possibly syphilis-related, and is rampantly insane. No amount of filing will correct this. No amount of outflow will ever result in inflow. What kind of rationalization do clams go through when all of the promo they send out and all of the work they do in CF amount to absolutely no one coming through the door, and people walk out, never to be seen again? This is a visible sign of the vaunted Admin Tech being epic fail. The continual cries for help with CF should induce some doubt out there.
And I can’t wait for tonight’s episode. I always love to put faces to names, and I get to see the redoubtable, unsinkable McCarran for the first time. Good times.
Hey SP- Ando Read HCOPL 30 July 1968 OEC Vol 2 page 68 if you know what an OEC volume is.
We know where your brain is, your sitting on it.
It’s a real pain giving references and not the text. I looked it up for you. Not sure what your point is here, but this is the text of the PL you reference. You sound awfully trollish:
GROSS INCOME SENIOR DATUM
THE SIZE NOT THE QUALITY OF AN ORG’S MAILING LIST AND THE NUMBER OF MAILINGS AND LETTERS TO IT DETERMINES THE GROSS INCOME OF AN ORG. IF THIS IS NOT KNOWN AS A SENIOR DATUM TO EXEC SECS AND KEPT IN BY THEM THEIR CONDITION IS TREASON.
L. RON HUBBARD
Founder
Yes, its all so EPIC, Sharron. I almost feel sorry for her.
Start of Session!
Auditor: Dear Diminutive Leader, see that wall?
Dear Diminutive Leader: Yes
Auditor: Very good. See the writing on the wall?
Dear Diminutive Leader: Yes
Auditor: Thank you. Run Davey Run.
Did anyone consider that many of the addresses in central files might have been purposely falsified to avoid follow up correspondence?
Anyone with minimal intelligence would conclude that CF will NEVER be in PT.
I suggest renaming it Central Flies to signify the number of corpses represented in folders.
Sharron’s letter reminds me of the LRH anecdote about the wife continuing to burn dinner to make herself right.
If Steve Jobs were alive today, Dave would have told him he should have built the Apple Store first, instead of starting out of a garage.
Yes! Love this comment. Miscavige’s Have-Do-Be concept is utter insanity and unique to Scientology. No one, anywhere, operates this way when starting, building and expanding a building or an organization!
Edit…”when starting, building and expanding a BUSINESS or an organization.”
Dear Mary,
32 years ago a relative of yours by the name of Josephine Gofukyurself filled out a Personality Profile and mentioned she had a cousin who once bought a Dianetics book in 1953 or 1954.
Anyway the reason we’re writing is that we’re contacting all known relatives of Josephine Gofukyurself to see if you are in fact that cousin and if you read the book and want more information on how to ensure yours and your loved ones eternity.
We hope you’re doing well. We all miss you even though we’ve never met and please contact us as soon as you get this letter. The fate of this sector of the universe depends on it.
Much Love,
Lena
Letter Registrar
Scientology: Thy name is desperation.
JOE PENDLETON,
Probably the same reason the 1965 New York Giants passed on Dick Butkus, Gale Sayers, and Joe Namath in order to draft the incomparable… Tucker Frederickson.
A halfback with the knees of Grandma Moses.
Look guys, you have to understand that CF is THE most important part of the org!
These folders are what the staff members have to use to write those stupid as a doorknob letters to people trying to get them to do some more buying.
If they didn’t have CF then staff couldn’t make their letter writing quotas, they’d be able to go home on time. Shit you can’t have that! Staff need to be controlled and overloaded with voluminous amounts of needless bullshit to keep them happy. I remember the 100 letters a week for each staff member quota – it really made me deliriously happy to do them per policy.
Hope you now understand the vital importance of CF.
And it isn’t 4+ hours a folder, it’s 12.75 minutes a folder on average. And there’s no way in hell they will have it done. Be like Tampa, they’ll be on letter ‘C’ come February it they’re lucky.
And where is double St Hill-sized Tampa now, are they up to ‘F’ yet? lol
Double St Hill sized. Yeah, super-size my fries along with that joke.
No modern corporation in 2016 maintains central records on new paper paper documents the way CoS does. CoS is stuck in 1980s information technology bcoz LRH died then, and anything he didn’t know about is out-tech and will prevent planetary clearing.
Ah but look at it this way, if ever there is a digital melt down they will be way ahead of the game, while the rest of us struggle to remember how to hold a pen.
The rest of the world is scanning all of their files into electronic file and shredding their physical files, and Scientology is still trying to manage an 80,000 files in filing cabinets and need 400 man-hours per day to keep it up to date.
RK, if they went paperless, they would miss the satisfaction of being cooped with some of the other dupes! You know, sitting there for hours next to the people who tried to get out of it. Going electronic? Hog wash! There’s nothing like sitting for hours with the strain on your eyes, slowly pushing you towards blindness…
As near as I can recall, the reason driving all this insanity around files is the ridiculous system of statistics that Hubbard threw together in “Admin Tech.” Apparently, all stats count approximately the same. Some are quite important, like “number of new people coming in” and some are relatively useless like “number of files in central files.”
But if all your stats are supposed to go up every single week, you are going to get the useless stats to go up to cover the fact that nobody new ever comes in to learn about Scientology. So on the one hand, staff have an incentive to create duplicate folders in Central Files because that’s an easy way to get stats to go up. And yet on the other hand, there’s that nasty old rule about keeping “CF” all organized, so they have to pretend to organize the files without really doing anything about them. Otherwise, 80% of the files will be found to be duplicates and have to be discarded, trashing the “files to CF” stat for years to come.
No sane member of the org public who has ever used a computer will want to come in and help with CF organizing because they know deep down that it’s insane to keep name and address files on paper in the year 2016 when a cheap computer could do it so much better and more accurately. People who know about such things are aware of software that links to database services that do a great job de-duplicating names and looking up current addresses for people who moved 30 years ago or figuring out that they’re dead. So even if they don’t know why, public know it’s toxic to be seen around any of the CF projects.
So the possibility that they will get 50 volunteers each of whom will spend two months processing all those files is about as likely as someone winning the lottery. They can barely get 15-20 people to show up for the OT committee meeting, in the richest concentration of Scientologists on Earth.
“No sane member of the org public who has ever used a computer will want to come in and help with CF organizing because they know deep down that it’s insane to keep name and address files on paper in the year 2016 when a cheap computer could do it so much better and more accurately.”
So true, but since finding anyone in $cn who could honestly be called “sane” is a near impossible task, the real question there is, “How many of these crazy fools can we sucker in to do the job that some long-missing CF I/C staff member hasn’t done in years?”
I’m going to put my Suppa OaTy Knowingness to work here and say seven, exactly seven…but they’ll only be available part-time and sporadically, so that’s going to kick the estimated completion date back to, umm, right about the same time that OaTy 9 & 10 finally get released!
Most of the people in CF are running away from $cn, and if contacted would say “How did you get my current address? Don’t EVER call or write me again!” There is one thing that is totally up-to-date in ALL Org CFs: SP names. When someone gets Declared, the torrent of mail stops immediately. I personally have saved dozens of trees from being murdered in cold sap. CF is up to date in the only way that really matters.
JP, good analysis but in fact it is even stupider than that.
Hubbard said something like “the size and not the quality of the central files, and the number of letters written to the persons in the files, determines an organization’s size and income”. He bragged that he could get someone to answer by writing a letter even if he did not sign his name. The “point” of CF is to get people who have expressed some interest to come in for their services. More “bodies in the shop”.
So you have the poor average staff member who has to moonlight just to eat and have a place to sleep. He really needs the org to get big and prosperous “like old Saint Hill”. Or at least big enough for the pay to be above $12 per week on a good week. It is really a matter of life and death.
So he goes to his Hubbard screed and there is the answer! Central Files! Letters! Hand written (according to policy) but it seems they are using computers for that these days sometimes.
Definitely not form letters or the same letter to everybody. You are supposed to read the folder and get the “think” of the person you are writing. If the only thing in the folder is a blue invoice for a Dianetics book from 1973 and the name is “Mickey Mouse” you are supposed to write a killer letter that will get the residents at 666 Mouseville Rd, Mouse City USA to pony up and buy a training package for $12,000! Think BIG.
Our poor hypothetical staff member has a non-negotiable written-in-stone quota of 50 or 100 or 200 letters that he must write each week, stats up or no, rain or shine, enforced by an Ethics Officer with a big stick. He has to do it. The organization will never make any money without this daily sacrifice.
The Central Files folders have to be kept up so he can do this. It is about as hopeless as those islanders that wait for planes to arrive full of food and goodies. Except that the cargo cults are based on true events that actually happened and the Central Files cult is based on pure fantasy.
Good post Bruce I was one of those dumb as a doorknob letter writers & Advance Sceduling Registrars at Sea Org-Asho f.whose post should be done by computer in 2016.In 1974 I wrote a Batman in LA & he came in for some auditing.And I could do a folder & dictate,yes I had to use a Dictaphone machine.What a hoot.I seem to recall a picture of Ron with same I could dictate a letter very much in under 12 minutes.Had to -as you know Thursday @ 2:00.❤️
Only Scientology, who pay their staff next to nothing (and volunteers nothing), can justify spending 17,000 man-hours on such a worthless project. Why? Because the Old Man said so! There’s GOLD in dem dar folders!
So Scnists will do their duty and invest their free time, knowing they’ve done their part in clearing Earth.
God love ’em.
Xenu loves them…
Cannot wait for Mary & Leah.Thinking about Shelly,after all these years,if able,I would think she might want to say that she was alright.In her words.Then she could go do whatever she wanted.Just tell someone she is OK.??
When Shelly is finally free, DM will not be free. And when DM goes to Federal prison, many, many other people will be free. Here’s hoping……… WAAUGN!
Chewkacca, Shelly doesn’t want to be free. The LAPD found that out for themselves.
Did they?
Yes, they did. In person.
This always staggers me. The most efficient people on earth, the ones who plan to CLEAR THE PLANET, can’t keep up with their FILING? I mean, isn’t that, like, a threshold skill? Filing? Isn’t that, essentially, knowing the alphabet? It’s probably beneath them. After all, they’re superior beings.
Why don’t they computerize the files in a database? I’m no computer-knowing-guy but i’m sure even just making a database with microsoft office (or open office) shouldn’t be that hard. Someone (or a few people) at most at their head office could do it, and as a bonus, making and tracking reports would be easier too i think.
jmsr
The problem is when they read something in one of the folders and go past an MU they have to look it up….clear it completely….maybe a clay demo or two…..and don’t get me started about those nefarious word chains. And they’re also probably getting all those nasty semi-colons straightened out.
The alphabet is very confusing to them. I mean, all those letters…..
Always tasted better as a soup.
Always!
This is being “at cause over Matter Energy Space and Time?”
Doing filing??
Maybe these victims of the mind-fuck perpetrated by the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology would not be this stupid if left well alone, but the Co$ has reduced them to the level of utter idiocy.
Of course, this is the “End Phenomenon” of the mind-fuck – being 110% Certain that one is saving the world, while paying fortunes to waste one’s time.
Looks like the descent into obsessive-compulsive disorder is well on its way. When OCD defenses break down, pychologists often expect psychosis to occur.
Dave,
Once Sharron has been put out to pasture in the San Fernando Valley and the Rustbucket has been sold off for scrap, will you be downsizing to a personal yacht?
Why don’t they open a spreadsheet like Access and load all their information into it? Certainly takes up a lot less space than cardboard and paper. Oh well saving the planet doesn’t include saving the forests does it?
They already mail a forest worth of paper to anyone who will allow it in their mailbox every week.
Do these folders contain personal or potentially embarrassing information? If so, doesn’t that go against any promise of confidentiality?
Dear Dave,
The MLO (Medical Liaison Officer here at the IASP (International Association of SP’s) recommends the following process to relieve any stress you may be having over current events:
1. Hold breath for at least 30 minutes or until permanent exteriorization occurs.
2. Proceed immediately to Target Two.
ML,
Harvey
IASP
A bit off topic, Mike, but I caught up on episode two last night – my respect! As to Leah, she is truly a hero too. DM has messed with the wrong Sicilian girl from Brooklyn.
Let’s see… They’ve been raising money for this white elephant for how many years? And they wait til 2 months to go to make an emergency push for 17,000 fucking hours of paper shuffling? That’s no way to run a railroad. It was NOT an unforeseeable requirement. They didn’t just get the word from Hubbard on high yesterday that central files need to be organized in order for the next empty building to properly function. What do they teach at Hubbard College of Administration, anyway?
Oh, and 400 hours per day, at 8 hours per person, equals 50 people! There aren’t 50 public Scientologists on the entire planet who would make themselves available to work full time for two months shuffling papers to get this done. Captain Sharron had better steer her rusting ship over to the Pacific Ocean, to Long Beach Harbor, and up the 405 right away so that she can put her ghost crew to work on this most urgent clusterfuck.
Well, it certainly is a huge task which needs to be accomplished in a very short amount of time. But since many parts of the country are experiencing extremely cold weather, I guess it’s possible that Hell could freeze over too!
17,000 hours of work needed to catch CF to present time is a whole helluva lot of backlogged work load. So much, in fact, that you get the distinct impression that there’s not been anyone on staff doing that job for quite while. So, this isn’t so much of a one-off, all hands project as it is disguised effort to palm off the work of a regular staff member(s) onto the public.
When will these poor $cilon sheeple wise the f*** up and quit propping up a cult which is on its last legs and already on life support!?
It would be interesting to find out the status of the CFs in the Idle Morgues which are complete. Take Sac Org for example: I suspect their CFs would be totally up to date since the staff has not had to worry about servicing new public coming in the doors.
Last time I visited Sac Org was in the evening when course was getting out. I had just been over to SF to watch the premier of Going Clear on March 13th, 2015 and decided to walk by to see the throngs leaving the Org. I think there were three people who came out and I passed by them in the crosswalk. Two were Oh Tea Ates I recognized. I suspect they are still working on GAG II updates or possibly a redo of the Survival Rundown.
It might be time to make another pass by to get a current count on the number of foundation students still on life support!
I can’t wait to see tonight’s episode!! I have a poster of ‘the bridge to total freedom’ and it’s so large that it could probably take up a full wall!! How anyone could reach OT VIII is beyond me!
You’ve got to give them one thing, since they are not allowed to, can’t and hence won’t deliver any services, there remains something they can all still do – file little bits of paper. In any organisation if the minions of it don’t have something to do or something to keep themselves occupied it all goes to hell pretty quick.
It has already gone to hell for Scientology, but that is beside the point. While whatever members are still left and can still mist a mirror they can file.
They think they are in trouble now… just wait and see what happens if by some miracle CF in every org does come up to PT! What members that are left that still have two brain cells to rub together will then see it still doesn’t make any difference, the Org remains empty and lifeless no matter what they do!
Anyway, most CF’s are hovering on being an obituary anyway they are so old.
Scientology has somehow managed to convince its remaining members there is a workable relationship between eternal optimism and sheer stupidity and they call it… I don’t know they must call it from within the bubble now.
So, if Sharon is doing that, what are all the multiple layers (and I mean MULTIPLE) of scamology management doing all day long?
*for people unfamiliar, Sharron Webber is not part of “management” but of “delivery” in the scamology Org chart. There are three distinct management orgs above her.
So, during these clean-up projects, they let any old Joe or Jane Scientologist come in and go through their files? Aren’t those supposed to be confidential?
In other news…Tuesdays are my new favorites! #LeahDay 🙂
These are what they call Central Files, they hold a record of what a person has bought and when, as well as any correspondence with the individual of a general nature. The confidential files you are thinking of are called PC (Pre-Clear) folders, these hold a record of all the auditing action the person does whilst they are there. These are supposed to be confidential but in my experience any member of staff can get their hands on them as well as anyone you ‘twin’ with on auditing courses.
Thanks, Gimpy. I thought I read that the PC folders were part of this task, but now I see I mis-read that part. Even so, what you describe is pretty sh*tty!
I was part of the CF Project of ASHO DAY and FDN in 2004 (I think). This project was going on for decades. CLOWUS was also on it blablabla… It was done daily, at night… Well still not done. I almost got sec check when I told it should be scanned into computer. 🙂
Whaaaaaaat? You mean those allnighters the whole staff pulled in 1975 at ASHO were not enough to get it all caught up? (Who’da thunk?)
You expect miracles from just one all nighter, Valerie? Did you start drinking early? They need more like 100 all nighters to just put a dent in CF…
I had two friends who worked for months on the CF Project because they were being “paid” in training awards and I think it was about $10 per hr in training awards. My friend accumulated enough to start on the Briefing Course. Right about then they cancelled the paying them and no one got training awards. What a scam. LRH’s “Deliver What You Promise” and Way to Happiness about keeping your word mean nothing to them. So LRH’s scripture is not followed unless it benefits them to follow it, such as doing Fair Game on people who leave the church.
The “we need to get Central Files done by this deadline” is part of the overall strategy to keep the illusion alive that scientology is in full operation. Those files could stay just as they are and nobody would be any the wiser. Those files could be dumped in the trash with equally excellent results. As a staffer, what matters now is just to keep busy and try not to think about the inevitability howling in the distance.
Dumping them in the trash would be an excellent idea, many of the addresses are 30-40 years old and the person most likely has moved or died and clearly has no interest in scientology what so ever.
Given how ancient so many of those files are, and how long it’s been since any given individual last purchased anything or paid for a course, I can’t help but wonder what it must be like for a dedicated, well-intentioned public Scieno to keep going through dead file after dead file after dead file after dead file–before finally experiencing the thrill of coming across one created (or at least most recently updated) in this millennium.
They’ve got 80,000 files? If they have a shredding service come out to deal with anything that hasn’t been active in over 20 years, that’ll probably get them down to about 800 files–and that? That they can probably manage to do by February.
Let’s see – 80,000. Now, if we apply the 47x factor in reverse and divide instead of multiply (since expansion in Scientology is PR for contraction) it comes to about 1,700. Sounds like about the number of Scientologists in the Greater Los Angeles area.
COB David Miscavige told the sheeple that the Central Files were the MIND of the Orgs.
He was right – the Central Files are a hot mess and contain information about people that are old, out dated, non existent, dead, SP’s, DB’s, PTS, Psych Cases, Not interested, UTR and “OUT OUT”!
The Central Files are Type III and need to be discarded, along with Scientology, without sorrow.
The OT Ambassador Program aka the SP Miscavige Whore Program.
Maybe her thinking went like this.I see no people here.
So bypass!!!!!!
If Valley Org gets their mailing list in order people will magically flood in.
Then soon they will show up at my Fleecewinds.
Scientologists forever chasing the next carrot.
Screech….wait a minute… OTVIII is the first true OT?! I mean, wow! I’m not going to ask how they get away with this, because I understand how brainwashing works. But, anyone hearing that who is NOT under the influence would cry foul. The next thing, then the next thing, the next thing…ad nauseum
Tee shirt proposal: I Became a Scientologist to save myself and the world, and all I got was 100s of volunteer hours filing other people’s blackmail files.
This is such a major testament to how Scientology is messed up. They’re stuck in 1950s paper mentality and what real church keeps records like this!? If they did this correctly, all the sessions would be computerized. In 2016 no one should be spending all this time shuffling paper. I say, recycle it all.
Looking forward to another historic piece by Leah Remini, a true superhero if ther ever was one.
Sharron … Sharron … just take the stuff and burn it all and start again in the new building … no one will know the difference or be the wiser, believe me … they’ll buy it … just say it was all completed, you know, like we’re clearing the planet …
To add a somethingness… triple exclamation dots should not be used . This is a mania I’ve known under Guillaume Lesevre, ex ED Int, ex CO EU etc, he was a fan of telexes with many times the “xclaim” since there are no exclamation dots in telexes!
Hilarious! Do you think that he avoided using the much more appropriate abbreviation, “exclam,” because it was just a little too much of an unconscious reminder of what everyone really yearns to be who’s in the Sea Orgy…an ex-clam?
Sharron told me shortly after we were married in 1992 that her doctor told her that she had only 6 months to live. Oh well, I guess I lied too when my next wife was afraid to do to the store for fear that I would be dead when she got back and asked me to give her a heads up so she could be there when I died and I told her it would be over in 3 weeks. 3 doctors and 1 Captain Freewinds told her that I was going to die. Sharron was like that; doing other peoples posts. She once was cleaning a bathroom and mixed bleach and limeaway together and it almost killed her. She said that she, being an OTVIII told her doctor things about her bad back that us mortals would need an x- ray to see. I was showing her how to play blackjack and she took 2 cards for an 18 and told her she should stand so as not to go over 21. She said “Give me another card anyway”. The next card was a 3. She is a powerful being. Powerful beings can do a lot of good and a lot of bad. She did both. She was doing ethics cycles for DM. She came home one night certain that DM was going to have her RPFed.
If getting blackjack by getting 21 (even with hitting on an 18) means you are a powerful being, then I must be a prior life OTVIII
I have managed to do that many times. It’s called luck
Of course I have also busted out by doing that
Again, that is called (bad) luck
I figure someone who really was an OT VIII in a prior life must be smart enough to not join Scientology this time round and save the $500,000 it would cost.
She can’t be that powerful if she was so wrong about her own demise
And she needs help filing? Seems you should just be able to gather a bunch of OT VIIIs and they would get the work done in an afternoon
I doubt that she was OT VIII in a prior life. She was born in Oct 1950.
Sorry I wasn’t clear in my last post.
I was referring to myself being an prior life OT VIII because I have also hit on 18 and scored blackjack
My point was that being lucky at cards (or even card counting) is not evidence of super OT powers
But you bring up a good point I have always wondered about….how are there ANY past life clears if Scientology wasn’t ‘discovered’ (invented?) until the 1950s?
Yes, Joseph Smith had whole track clearing well in hand until he got distracted by finding that buried book. LRH picked up the ball. The point being, there were several people cleared at that time before Smith went squirrel.
Bill S, if you ever write a book I will read it!
Of course a guaranteed audience of one does not make for a New York Times best seller, but I can’t be the only one that is alternately appalled and astonished by your stories.
Best bet is to get a really good editor or co-author, like Dan Koon.
“Ship of Slaves – shocking adventures on the high seas”. Can’t wait.
My guess is Sharron is “doing a training project” in LA (that is, BUSTED).
I’ll bet you are right. Either that or she didn’t even write it. But I believe it is more likely that you are correct. IN 1993 when we were married she used to tell me often that she was doing ethics cycles for DM. Nobody can stay on DMs good side for long; its inevitable that she would get busted sooner or later.
I may well write a book. I should probably do it soon in case they decide to finish their cycle of action (of finishing me off).
I am in LA. Maybe I’ll go down to Valley Org and see if she is there. I was thinking of calling the book “Dead men tell no tales” but I should probably get the title surveyed.
Bill Straass ~~ more about
Bill Straass served as a hard working “Sea Org Member”. The “church” called them “CLERGY”. When a Sea org member needs medical treatment, (there are approximately 4000 of them world wide,) the “CHURCH” makes the Tax payer pay for medical treatment in all countries. Scientology Inc is Tax Exempt and does not pay its fair share of taxes, under *religious cloaking*. Not only does it not contribute its fair share of taxes but expects the State to pay for medical while it hoards money for its expensive Lawyers and Private Investigators. Bill Straass suffered greatly for 13 years with the HIV virus after being finally sent to a Chiropractor (for no money) trading of Freewinds accommodations !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0S-lVQBXdg
Thank you for adding this Karen. It fills in some of the blanks of the deplorable things the CoS will do. Many are worse.
You were married to Sharron Webber? I knew a Sharron Webber from Minnesota in the early 80s. Is it the same one?
Bill, you have seen so many people who were sent to the bilges as a punishment. A list of who you remember, especially executives and senior executives, somewhere posted on the Internet would be good.
I do not remember many, but my ex-wife Alison Williams who was the I and R of the watch told me that she used to run Ray Mithoff in the bilges after I left.
The bilges thing started., I believe, when DM was unhappy with the performance of the Gold Crew during Maiden Voyage Anniversaries. He would send some of them down “Until they had a cognition”. Soon more and more were sent.
Spent many happy weeks in the bilges. It was relief to be down there with the Engineers who were less interested in politics than other areas of the SO. I didn’t mind the work or the sludge. Being away from the insanity of Miscavige (who never wanted to dirty the soles of hand-made shoes in the ER) was a massive relief.
I get so many letters and emails every day from various individuals companies that most don’t even merit a quick skimming before they are discarded. More than half my snail mail at work and more than half my email at work and home is discarded when I see who it is from. Some snail mail or emails get opened and get “level 2” inspection – a scan of the subject line, a check for relevant dates. Probably only 10% of my mail or email gets a thorough reading, the rest is a waste of my time.
I would like to believe if I was still in that this redundant redundancy would hit the trash without a second glance. How any people still read one of these bloviations?
Cheapened communication, the flood of the 21st century. Mind numb takes on a whole new meaning because of electronics.
When your grandchildren forward you irrelevant forwarded texts and you cringe but know they love you and mean well … yeah, cheapened communication. I still prefer one-on-one, face to face.
Sometimes too much communication is too much.
Made me think of when Miscavige was all fired to have AVUs do all the communicating in Div 6, it sure cleaned the place out of people. There were a lot of stunned looks on the faces of the techies at that time but not long after that the techies were all thrown off post anyway with GATs and other things. Miscavige and his cheap & demeaning communication systems. Intentionally installed to remove the human element out of the Scientology equation.
A civilization without critical thinking, without government and without transparency, where our fundraising is prosperous and where those opposed to us have no rights, and where Dave is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology.
Ok…ok. I’ll meet you at Hollywood & Vine and figure out which restaurant we want to go to. I’ll even treat!
Air fare too?
(Big Sigh). Ok…but you need to bring the wine!
Wait wait me too? I will bring wine too. Sheesh, go away for a few hours and dinner arrangements are made without me. I’m coming I’m coming. You’re paying my airfare too, right.
Me too. I’ll bring the nachos. Luckily I’m local so you save on airfare.
I’m have never been in so hopefully this is not a dumb question, but what is it about the central files that takes so much time? What are they, What’s in them and why does it seem that no org can keep up with them if there is so little else to do?
Jo, it’s essentially the org’s customer base going back to the beginning, anyone who purchased anything. even the cheapest book. Each customer’s folder also contains a record of everything they’ve bought, their success stories and all correspondence. The idea is that you can stay in touch with these people and keep selling them more and getting them more involved in Scientology, or develop them as customers or “recover” them as customers if they are at all upset with Scientology.
And as for why can no org keep up with them if there is so little to do? (my org started its project in 1971, no kidding) … well … there are certain enduring mysteries of life, Jo … why didn’t the Portland Trail Blazers draft Michael Jordan when they had the chance? … why do they call it Grape Nuts when it doesn’t have any nuts or grapes in it? … Yes, we can speculate on these mysterious questions looking for answers … but will we ever really find them?
All good questions!!! 😀 Thank you for clearing that up!
I have one more question, way off the CF subject, that I’ve been dying to ask:
Do you think DM believes in Scientology or is it a con/business for him?
Again, I have never been in the church, so I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks Joe!
Well, Joe, let me clear up your mystery questions:
1) The Fail Blazers didn’t draft MJ because they had Clyde Drexler as their shooting guard and they needed to go big, so they took Sam Bowie. Thus, Our Lord and Savior came here to Chicago. Thanks, Portland. We owe you forever for that one.
2) The reason why Grape-Nuts is named as it is is because a) it tasted sort of nutty and b) the original formula contained maltose, which was also known at the time as “grape sugar”. Hence, “Grape-Nuts”.
See, Joe, despite being a total asshole when it comes to Scientology, I have my occasional uses.
Thanks for the info Espiando – it’s obvious to me you’re not a cereal killer.
We always called him Cryed Drexler. Best flop fouler in the league.
Ah, I did not know that about Grape-Nuts. I do know that I used to like them, and my dentist loves them, because they are responsible for a couple of those crowns on my back teeth!
” or “recover” them as customers if they are at all upset with Scientology.”
Good luck with that! What are the chances they ARE NOT upset with $cientology? I’d say just about ZERO!
Jo, the folders get damaged, or the labels fall off or are unreadable. Files get out of order. Central Files covers anyone who ever bought a book, or even inquired about Scn and gave their contact information. The folder information is suppose to be updated. The orgs never get rid of these folders. They are suppose to be the lifeblood of the org. Mostly they are antiquated and useless. However policy requires that they be kept. A total waste of time.
And why the files cannot just be kept in PT is the strangest of all considering the Cult says it has the keys to life and life apparently is living in PT and not in a constant re-review of the events in your mind. Or worse yet, in your horrid reactive mind!
Yo Sharron,
Do the math babe……………….you say there are 80,000 files that need attention. Did someone count them? (That was a fricking waste)
More to the point. You say there are 80,000 so we will go with it. If your estimate is that it will take 17,000 man hours to achieve PTness, then I assume you have decided it should take 4.705 hours per folder to get it into PT????!!!!!!!!!
I suggest you consider subcontracting to wogs. Certainly they can git-er-done much faster. I mean what the fuck are you doing with this folder exactly that takes over four hours and 42 minutes to ‘get each one into PT’? Gheesch
How long would it take to dump them into a present time trash bin, especially if it were cleaned with a toothbrush with SO staff?
FOUR.SEVEN O FIVE HOURS/ I have spent less than that on organizing and scanning five or six entire file boxes into they system. That says so little for the admin tech. What ever happened to that beauty I learned on SS1 (that I discovered later he stole from someone else) “never touch a piece of paper more than once”?
I think he was referring to toilet paper.
I can confirm that.
Toilet paper, the ideal Scio filing system.
Toilet paper: it’s not just for wiping anymore.
Ew ew ew ew ew. Unfortunately even in the 70s there was a chronic toilet paper shortage. I’d tell,stories but this is a family blog.
No shit!
I think you meant that they can do 4.7 per hour?
Math correction note: Sharron would never give any duped minion, err, generous volunteer that much time to do anything! She’s estimating that these volunteers can crank out more than four folders per hour.
In order for 80K folders to be filed in an estimated 17K hours means that they would have to be working at a pace faster than one per hour or they’d only get 17K folders done in 17K hours. So, you have to divide the smaller number (17k) by the bigger number (80K), not the other way around. Thus, 17,000 divided by 80,000 = .2125 of an hour per folder or a little less than one folder every 13 minutes.
Good job Harpoona … I stand corrected. My math needs a retread of course. Still, stare at the folder for 12 minutes and chuck it in the bin.
I’ll add that cults like to give their victims busy work.
I was never in Scientology, but I was in a Jesus cult in the late 1970s. Our leader who told us he was the reincarnation of the prophet Elijah, had us color coding every word in the bible because he told us only he could discern the true messages from God with this method. (Never mind translations, bad transcriptions, misunderstandings, etc)
So, getting everyone involved in a useless busy-work project keeps people from having a thought to themselves.
CF is their physical collection of contact info for members and potential members, collected from anyone who’s ever interacted with the org at any time over the decades. As per their policy, they assume that everyone who hasn’t actually died or been declared is still open to becoming a member, so they spend hours trying to track down every single person in their files who took a stress test in 1973 or whatever. They absolutely don’t want to accidentally throw away a potential lead, so every file they’ve got is scoured and cross-checked by hand. It’s a whole lot of effort spent on every file for no payoff at all.
Look at it this way, it doesn’t take up their time, it produces it. They have nothing else to do, the mind games they play only go so far, then you have to back it up with something physical. Observing stupidity isn’t easy, we all try to find logical reasons for what we see. Good luck trying to piece Scientology together, that gig saw doesn’t have all the bits and they lost the cover of the box decades ago. As you’ve never been in… geezers, strange hobby you’ve got, best of luck with it. I’ve always maintained, never take Scientology seriously, the abuses yes, the subject no. Any game of the spirit has to involve fun. The older I get the more sane that becomes.
Jo, central files could be kept in order if there was actually a reasonable sense of order, but, in my experience, central files is the most ignored part of the organization. If one person worked one hour or less a day and actually filed only the useful pieces of paper in the proper files in every organization in scientology, there would be no CF backlog IMHO. There are policies (some contradictory) written on how to file in proper order and in order to even file a piece of paper, they have to be “properly hatted” to do so. I have spent entire nights after being on post all day with the entire staff at ASHO pulling an all nighter with the rest of the staff in an attempt to organize central files.
Two of the largest problems with central files are that it is considered a “suppressive act” to ever remove anyone from the mailing list, so people who refuse communication from you must still have their file. Therefore, there are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more files than people who wish communication from anyone in scientology.
LRon also had a policy that said “outflow equals inflow” so lots of worthless communication is always being sent out of scientology organizations to people who don’t want it but who are still stuck in the endless hell of having been somehow put on the mailing list. I would be willing to place bets that scientology gets more return mail than any other organization in the world.
When I get a piece of return mail at the office here, I open it immediately, check to see if I can update the mailing address, update it in the court system if I can, update my computer file, scan in the return mail, then forward the return mail. If unable to forward, it goes in the circular file and the address is marked undeliverable both on mine and the court’s system. In scientology, if a piece of mail is returned, the envelope must be filed and more mail is still sent to the same address ad infinitum. It took SIX months of marking envelopes “RETURN TO STALKER” for me to get off the mailing list. I ended up using their return envelopes and enclosing autopsy photos of Lisa McPherson to actually get them to get me off the mailing list.
Because they are so “certain” that the person on the other end must hear from them, they waste much more paper and effort than any sane organization would, therefore causing their filing system to be in a constant state of disarray.
You have to really look at some of these mailings don’t you? Most of us wouldn’t notice that the CO FSSO was sending out notes like this which really have nothing to do with her, for my part I would have junked it as soon as I spotted it was from scn, not bothering to look who had sent it.
Once again it also makes the point that CF clearly doesn’t work, if they need 17,000 hours to bring everything up to date what have they been playing at all this time? I bet just about every org has a dual filing system – those they think are worth bothering with and CF, why would you go digging through 30,000 address files to find the 50 or so people you think might still be interested?
A lot if times it’s the CF Officer who allows CF to go out of PT. This was the case in my org. CF works well if it is kept in PT which, from the looks of all these filing projects, doesn’t appear to happen very often.
The org I was in had at last count 7 staff, half of these are part time, ‘the field’ consists of roughly 50 people only a dozen of these could be counted on to be on course or getting in session, there was simply no one there to worry about CF so it just got left. Management would stamp their feet every few years and demand it was brought up to date so the inevitable filing parties occurred – often when you were trying to go home after course. A CF officer for them is and always had been a pipe dream. What they do now is to send a list of valid names and addresses to a central mailing unit who prepare a monthly cooky cutter magazine on their behalf, strangely even this basic level of computerization is more effective than the old fashioned CF.
I always get a little sick to my stomach when I read about “OT AMBASSADOR Program.” One of those things I never could but always wanted to tell anyone imposing this on me to shove it up their ass. Another big “SUPPOSE TO.” I can’t tell you how many times I heard, “As an OT VIII, you need to ….”
Another OT VIII once said to me, “I have never been so invalidated in my life as an OT and the things I need to be or do because I am now OT VIII.” Of course, she has disconnected from me.
Hopefully she will enjoy her time reviewing 30 year old files looking for a fellow that supposedly purchased a cult booklet.
I think Sharron just wants to get a count on how many of her cause over life comps are still clinging to the life rafts of the cult!
EP of OT VIII: Cost over Life.
Actual status of OaTy 8’s within the cult: Goat for all eternity
I’ve got 2 OT8s in my family – yep, 2 of the damn card carrying, in good standing representations of epic proportionness of nothing, who never attend an Org but rave about the virtues of a tech they don’t use.
They hate my guts with a passion, they aren’t game enough to communicate to me directly but do so with snide, cheap and trivial backstabbing. The disconnection they imposed on me is entirely cowardly and is representative of the operating basis the Cof$ enforces on all its members. They had me fooled for a long time thinking that they always had the best interests of the family at heart. It was the other family members that told me they are very embarrassed with their antics and it greatly saddens the rest of the family that they are now so disjointed because of the Scientology angle enforced upon their lives. There is no handling I’ve come across for externally influencing a Scio’s mindset, it has to come from them somehow. This Leah Remini stuff is very promising and what’s on Ortega’s site this am is staggering in its ramifications. Go Leah!
400 man hours per day??? Are they out of their teeny f*ing minds???
Uhm … well … let me put it this way … the answer to your question is not “no” …
:)))) Plus, CF is such bullshit. Mostly returned letters.
I walked out of the Orange County org without attesting to Clear. So you know they’re looking for me.
When will you be attesting to full SP?
🙂
I just waiting for their call…
I’m senior to them – you have my okay.
Bitchin’! Hey world!! Say it loud! I’m suppressive & proud!
So glad you’ve come out of the closet!
It would take 40 people 10 hours a day to meet that goal. Do they have room for 40 people in the filing room? It is just another ‘nose to the grindstone’ tactic to keep the minions away from real life and to prove their fealty to Miscavage. Do they actually have 40 active clams to do this pointless task?
Proper filing did not win WW 2 or any other conflict. It won’t ‘clear the planet’ either. It will just piss off the self satisfied OTs and point out the absurdity of the whole clam scam. Only the most loyal OTs will help out and therefore get some measure of ‘ethics protection’ for themselves. Everyone else will get that much closer to an expensive sec check.
Hahahahahahahahahah! Exactly! 😉