A Special Correspondent (clearlypissedoff) sent this to me.
They did a lot of work to compile this information and it deserves to see the light of day as it is an invaluable resource for those looking for a summary of problems and sources of data. It seems like a perfect posting to get the New Year started with something both memorable and useful.
clearlypissed off sent me this and asked me to put it at the top of this posting:
“Thank you very much Mike, for editing this document and posting it.
I would like to make the comment that this was assembled with the viewpoint of having a one-stop-shop for someone who still believes in the tech and believes in LRH, to view the atrocities of SCN.
From here, one could click on the various other excellent websites that I referenced and study the insanity in further detail. It may seem pro-LRH and pro-LRH tech, but that was done intentionally, for
the desired public. It would be a first step for a doubtful, person that is still in.
And to further clarify, I am not pro-LRH or pro SCN tech…”
1. DISCONNECTION & STORIES OF FAMILIES DESTROYED BY SCIENTOLOGY’S DISCONNECTION POLICY:
The Church says it does not have a disconnection policy and yet, there is an enormous amount of documentation on the internet of this horrible policy. This policy destroys families. Mothers, fathers, sons, brothers and sisters are crying daily due to these insane policies.
What organization, other than the Church of Scientology, stops people from communicating with their families and friends?
From a Scientology point of view, this policy is a curse and could very well be their downfall. It causes, parents, siblings, aunts, uncles and friends to view scientology in a VERY unfavorable light and this alone would be something that a normal person would not want to be a part of and they would prohibit all of their loved ones from participating in the church. Plus, currently, the way people are connected through Facebook and the internet, I would suggest that the levels of connection are very small – it seems everyone has mutual friends on Facebook. The internet along with disconnection policies will be the church’s downfall.
Is this the way LRH wanted to have families behave? No longer communicating with fathers and mothers? Is this logical behavior? Is this behavior something that promotes Scientology’s greatness, kindness and ARC? I would say NO. The disconnection policy destroys families.
Here is a site that contains a lot of information on the subject: EX-SCIENTOLOGY KIDS
….Interestingly enough, some Scientology spokespeople regularly insist that Disconnection does not exist in Scientology. Others quote the policy listed above, and say that Disconnection is a last resort, only undertaken under extreme circumstances. Others tell us that Disconnection is an individual choice that is entirely the decision of the Scientologist. Some say that every group has a right to protect itself from harm….
First of all, this is a complete lie – the disconnection policy is fully in force and any Scientologist will admit it.
…Some spokespeople actually liken disconnection to excommunication, though the two are not the same at all. Though people who are excommunicated are not permitted to take any of the sacraments or receive blessings, their families and friends are not pressured to abandon them. In fact, an excommunicated person does not cease to be Christian, as their baptism is not affected…
True Stories of How Scientology Destroys Families
These are all true stories of families that have been torn apart by the church’s disconnection policy. These are just a selection easily found on the internet. I know there are 100s more, no thousands, that never published their stories on-line.
– A son whose OT VIII parents kicked out of their home as he was “associated” with “bad people” and was reading the internet about the Church. He grabbed a gun and was drunk. His step-father was attempting to get into the home.
Scientology clergy force a mother to choose: son or daughter
“Open the door,” he said.
Lister freed the latch, crying. And drunk.
“Dude, I can’t do it any more,” he said.”I can’t live this life. Please explain to me what I live for because I can’t find it.”
“Give me the gun,” Sheldon said…
– A mother is forced to disconnect from her 14 year old daughter.
…Christina was shipped off to Coldfoot, Alaska. I didn’t talk to her again until January 2003 when her father died. At that time I was informed, more than a year later, that “it was never meant for me to be totally disconnected — the disconnection was just a ‘disciplinary’ action on Christina.” Oh yeah, and then I, her mother, am not told this until a year later?
The years following were very rough for Christina. She moved from Alaska to Tennessee, turned 18, couldn’t hold a job, had no money and eventually walked out of my life altogether. I did not know where she was or how to contact her. Every day I was desparing and the only “handling” I was allowed to do was to work with ethics staff. Yet these staff usually didn’t know what to do either and were too busy handling the “out ethics particles” on David’s plate.
I got to the point that I didn’t know what to do anymore. My hands were tied at that base so I resolved that the only way out, was to take matters in my own hands and somehow get free. I already knew that I would never be allowed to just walk out of there – I have seen too many times what others have gone through to leave.
– A daughter disconnects from her mother
…After all this, I am very happy that I did get out of Scientology but leaving my daughters behind has been very difficult. The 1st year was horrible, all I could do was cry, cry and cry some more. Every birthday, Christmas, Thanksgiving, Father’s Day and Mother’s Day is painful. The first Christmas, we did not celebrate. We did not put up a single decoration. So many times when we have some good news we want to share, I start to call Kara and then I forget, she will NEVER speak to me again. And the pain just hits me again because it is sooo painful to not see or talk to my daughter…
…I found out last week that you were Engaged. When I had first heard the news, my heart dropped with the thought of not being able to share with you in this special time of your life and I felt very sad. Scientology has ripped apart our family for the past 5 years because of their enforced disconnection policy and now we can’t even be together during this memorable time. I cried for days thinking about how you and I are missing out on all the exciting mother-daughter things we could be doing together such as planning a fabulous engagement party, picking out your beautiful dress, the wedding invitations just to name a few. I will miss this time with you, Jessica…. I really will!…
– An entire family disconnects
…Two days after I left, all my immediate family who were scientologists disconnected from me and will no longer communicate to me.
This included by mother, step father, brother, two sisters, uncle and two cousins.
My mother has never met her only grandchildren, my three sons, ages 7, 5 and 4 months…
– His whole family disconnected
I have four children who are Hollywood stars – but they are dead mentally to me
…He said: ‘I love my kids. Maybe I’ll bump into them one day. They’re probably going to be shocked. But I’m just going to say, “I love you. I hope you do well. I’ll miss you for the rest of my life. I’ll always be your dad.”
“Because I can’t hoodwink them, I can’t kidnap them and I can’t convince them because they’re brainwashed…”
There are numerous examples of the “non-existent” disconnection policy of the Church all over the internet. Here are a few more:
…I was a former scientologist, married to Joanna Young. We have one daughter and her name is Ashley Brooke Young. I believe they are in Vancouver BC. I am seeking to see and hear from her. Life was full of hell for me in scientology. I broke free and living happily ever after…..Just one thing….I need to see and hear from my daughter and tell her that I love her and never wanted to depart from her. It was her mother’s decision to stay, not mine!
If you know anything about the whereabouts of Ashley Brooke Young, please contact “Antoine Young”…
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…Then, on my one-month wedding anniversary, my brother informed me that he and my parents had all discussed disconnecting with me and were planning to do so if I did not change my mind. Many tearful, long conversations later, I received the following email from my brother:
“I just don’t want you to hold Scientology in a bad light. If you’re not willing to look at it in a new unit of time and see the truth of it I’m afraid I don’t want you to be a part of my life. I love you and I want you to do well but if you’re so hard headed that you won’t look at facts and compare them to what you believe are the facts, I believe that’s insane and just being stupid. When you decide to be open to the truth let me know and I’ll be there but until then don’t write me or call me as I don’t wish to be in comm with you if you won’t make an effort. The ball’s in your court.”
That was the last I heard from him, over 2 years ago.
I miss my brother so much, and I don’t know if I will ever see him again…
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…I have not seen or spoken to my father and uncle in over 17 years. This has torn our once close knit family apart. I started my A-E steps in the early 90’s. I even paid a bit on my freeloader debt. But the IJC would never give me a dollar amount so I stopped paying on a bill with no total.
The funny thing is that my father and I got into $cientology in order to communicate better.
Also I think it is LRH that said, “Communication is the universal solvent.”…
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…What I didn’t know was that Mission staff was telling him that, unless he could persuade me to join Scientology, he would have to divorce me. Even though I was not opposing his involvement with Scientology, they apparently saw me as a “Potential Trouble Source” and it was either recruit me or leave me…
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…I was separated from my own family for over a decade. I saw my family only a few days in all of that time. They lived in Los Angeles only a couple hours away from where I was working. And at that time, the Gold Base (in Hemet, California) was a confidential location and not many people actually knew where it was at the time. Thanks to the internet, knowing where the Gold Base is just a click away.
As well, I was separated from my then wife Melanie for 4 years who was a fellow Sea Organization member. She became an RTC Representative and was sent to AOLA and then Flag. I only saw her couple of days out of 4 years. This was by order of David Miscavige.
When I chose to leave the Sea Org, she divorced me and was forced to disconnect from me as well. In the meetings we had while I was undergoing my leaving process (only a couple of times) she had an RTC handler with her to ensure that I didn’t say anything that would get her to change her mind about being there or talk her into leaving with me. She is still at Flag as an RTC Representative as far as I know. I haven’t heard much about her since I left the Sea Org in May of 2000…
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…Most stayed in the cult and disconnected from me. My best friend, my best pal for many years, visited me to see if I would accept the Church’s decision and perform the arduous steps (called “A to E”) to no longer be suppressive and to return to good standing.
He knew I wouldn’t do this, but he tried anyway. We both knew he would never be allowed to have any communication with me again. My pal left and we have never met again to this day, thirty years later….
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…I was “discovered” and followed by OSA agents. I was fired from my job. The Church of Scientology called my sister and told her that if she remained in contact with me, then she would be declared and her husband would be made to disconnect from her, destroying her marriage. She told them to go to hell and so did my brother in law.
The Church of Scientology also called my 82 year old father in the few months before he died and harassed him about his own son. It left him confused, very troubled, and suspicious of me. (Take a win on that one, Scientology!) …
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…In 2004 I got SP declared and my mother does not and has not talked to me since then. She is still a member of the Church of Scientology. I tried calling her last week and I left a message. She did not call me back.
Also my brother does not talk to me because I am declared suppressive. He is afraid they will take his daughter away from him (a child he has from a previous marriage where the mother is a die-hard Scientologist) if he talks to me…
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…In about 2001, his (second) wife made it known that she was leaving the Church, and wanted nothing more to do with the official organization. Within a few weeks, they were declared Suppressive Persons, and we could no longer speak to them, write to them, or have anything to do with them. This continued for 4 years, until I left the Church in 2005, and contacted my Father shortly thereafter. It was his first contact with one of his 6 children in 4 years. I was the prodigal Son returning. My Father had contracted the esophageal cancer which ended his life, and he passed away in June of 2007. We had several good visits together in that time, and he told his story to one journalist.
Also during his last few months, I attempted to get my brother and sisters to visit him, to no avail. I am cut off from my Mother, and over 20 nephews and nieces. I also am estranged from my own two children, a Son and Daughter….
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…I want you to know I miss you very much. I am sorry I couldn’t be totally honest with you when your brother blew from Gold. I was honoring his request to keep all information about him confidential. You should know he and his wife are doing very well and have two children now! Your aunts, uncles, cousins and brother also miss you. They all would like to see you again soon. It has been three years since we last spoke and I just can’t understand how you can put the church before your father and family. I hope it isn’t really your choice. If you would like to contact me be assured it would be most welcome!
Again, we all miss you and love you and hope your return is forthcoming…
2. DECLARES
On-line documentation and testimony of old SO members makes it evident that there has been a HUGE increase in declares since 1981 or so. In the 70’s there was a declare list of about 9 people or so. Now there are thousands and thousands and it is growing at a rapid pace.
This is actual documented information of the first 100 Clears that LRH helped go Clear.
- 53 of the 100 have been declared (most probably by DM)
- 28 of the first 100 are dead
- 9 of the deceased are also declared.
Does it strike you as odd that 38 out of 50 staff members from the last organization that L. Ron Hubbard personally ran in St Hill, England (known as “Old Saint Hill”) have been declared “suppressive persons” and kicked out of Scientology forever? LRH said 2 1/2 percent of the population is suppressive. But according to the evidence 76% of the population is suppressive.
This link shows that most of the declares occurred after LRH died (represented by *** so one cannot blame him but DM).
So, were the original Saint Hill staff that worked directly with LRH mostly SP’s???? I doubt it.
Again, should one join staff with a 76% chance of being declared?
Miscavige has systematically gotten rid of everyone who knew LRH. Of the 12 original ship messengers from the 70s MOST are declared and ALL are no longer part of DM’s top management. DM has had 5 of these original messengers declared. 3 of them are dead (all at a young age). David’s own wife (Shelly) is no longer with him but has been sent to a remote church property – completely away from her husband. Apparently, LRH loved these first messengers, worked with them daily for YEARS and completely trusted them. Yet David Miscavige thought of them as SPs. Apparently, from all I can deduce, all of LRH’s original, trusted, messengers are now completely off any connection to management and most are declared and/or dead.
Most of LRH’s original Apollo crew that worked closely with LRH for many years are also declared or no longer part of Scientology. Again, no doubt, most of these declares happened from 1980 onwards. LRH trusted and worked with these people for years but apparently most were actually suppressive people??? These people all worked a minimum of 6 days a week, 16 hours a day. Were they working that hard because most of them were suppressive?
Part of the declare policy is to have all Scientologists that are in good standing, disconnect from those that are declared.
3. ABORTION
I understand that in the book LRH wrote – Dianetics – that aborting a child is a terrible thing and that a thetan is in the fetus from conception. Apparently, the Sea Org has a policy that any woman who gets pregnant needs to have an abortion.
This is from Dianetics.
…”Anyone attempting an abortion is committing an act against the whole society and the future; any judge or doctor recommending an abortion should be instantly deprived of position and practice, whatever his ‘reason.’ “….
LRH considered abortion to be a crime. So much so that questioning if one had an abortion is part of his sec-check list of questions.
HCOB 24 DEC 72 THE BASIC INTEGRITY LIST
Have you ever raped anyone?
Have you ever been involved in an abortion?
Have you ever committed adultery?
Have you ever practiced homosexuality?
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This is what former Sea Org executive Mat Pesch said about this:
…The Sea Org has a whole drill in place to handle women who get pregnant, which happens quite a bit. The first step is to separate the husband and wife so they can’t see or communicate with each other. The woman is told the husband wants the abortion to occur and will leave the woman if she doesn’t get the abortion. This is said whether true or not. The couple is told that unless Scientology succeeds in its “mission” to save the planet then everyone, including the thetan of the baby is screwed for eternity. What is best for everyone, including the baby, is to kill the baby. That is what is droned into the woman while she is put under guard and made to do very hard manual labor while sleep deprived and fed left overs. It usually takes days or weeks to break the couple down and push through the abortion. That’s Sea Org 101. Sad but true. I know Sea Org woman who came on staff as children and had as many as 3 abortions. Done at the free clinics, of course. Realize that birth control is not provided to Sea Org members. They have to pay for it themselves. It is not uncommon for Sea Org members to receive NO pay for weeks or even months at a time….
This is from a sworn affidavit of former Sea Org executive Astra Woodcraft:
42. Approximately 1½ years before I left, a new rule came out stating that if you got pregnant, you had to either get an abortion, which was heavily pushed, or leave. The rule had previously been that if you got pregnant, you had to get an abortion or be sent to a small and failing lower organization where you had to fend for yourself and your baby…
- It took a lot less time for me to leave because they didn’t want any of the other staff to know I was pregnant, so they were trying to get me out quick. A staff member from the Religious Technology Center (The Sea Org’s highest organization) came up to me one day while I was in the process of routing out and asked me what I was doing. I told him that I was pregnant and leaving and he said to me “Oh, too late for an abortion?” I personally knew of three other girls who got pregnant and were convinced to get abortions.
One was my sister-in-law who was 16 weeks pregnant when she was convinced to abort her child although she was strongly against it. My mother told my sister and I that it was good that she got an abortion….”
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America and the state of Florida that the foregoing is true and correct.
This is a media report covering the topic: No kids allowed
…She said Saccomanno tried to calm her. “(She) just was like, ‘Chill, Laura . . . the baby is just tissue at this point.’ . . . She’s basically saying that an abortion is the right thing to do and that it wouldn’t be that big of a deal because it’s not that far along yet.’
4. TECHNOLOGY & POLICY
I am not going to go into the details of the technology and church policy as I have never trained on Scientology. However, there are MANY articles and blogs that discuss this topic.
I feel that the main issues currently with the church is that what LRH wrote is NOT being followed and in fact is being altered by Miscavige. The following are some excellent links that describes how LRH wanted things to be done and what is now being done.
This is from Debbie Cook. She was the Captain of the FSO for 17 years and in the Sea Org for 30 years. I understand that the church sued her and apparently paid her off and dropped the suit and she hasn’t published anything since. Who knows how much the church paid her to keep quiet. Both parties of the lawsuit denied any money from either side was paid to settle the lawsuit. I very much doubt that.
This is from Debbie Cook’s email.
…Out Tech:
Over the last few years we have seen literally hundreds and hundreds of people who were validated as clear using the CCRD as developed by LRH now being told they are not Clear. This included hundreds of OTs who were then put onto NED as a “handling”. LRH clearly forbid any Dianetics to be run on OTs in HCOB “Dianetics Forbidden on OTs”. This is out tech. This entire technical “handling” was directed personally by COB RTC and was done on thousands of OTs. But it was based not on an LRH HCO Bulletin, but rather based on a single C/S instruction where LRH C/Sed one pre-OT who had not achieved the state of clear but was mid OT III and not making it. LRH directed a solo handling that the pre-OT was to do to get himself to achieve the state of Clear. This LRH C/S taken out of context was then used to implement a technical handling that was in direct violation of an LRH HCOB…
This is from the Tampa Bay Times regarding the Cook court case.
This link provides LRH’s policy versus how things are currently being handled by DM.
Here is an example. This is a quote from an LRH Policy.
“If the org slumps…don’t engage in ‘fund-raising’ or ‘selling postcards’ or borrowing money.
Just make more income with Scientology.
It’s a sign of very poor management to seek extraordinary solutions for finance outside Scientology. It has always failed.
For orgs as for pcs ‘Solve It With Scientology’.
Every time I myself have sought to solve financial or personnel in other ways than Scientology I have lost out. So I can tell you from experience that org solvency lies in More Scientology, not patented combs or fund-raising barbeques.”
HCO P/L 24 February 1964, Issue II
Org Programming
(OEC Vol. 7, p. 930)
This is how DM’s church is conducting itself. Yes, some of these are outdated, but the same fund raising is going on today and per IRS documents the Church is worth billions just based on this Ideal Org Building Fund Raising. I found this quote from an LRH lecture and you can even listen to the tape online in his own voice:
“We own a tremendous amount of property. We own a tremendous amount of material and so forth, and it keeps growing. But that’s not important. When buildings get important to us, for God sakes, some of you born revolutionists will you please blow up central headquarters”. L Ron Hubbard Lecture 31 Dec 1960
“Barbeque and Bingo!”
Nashville Celebrity Centre bulk e-mail for its latest fund-raiser, 5 August 2008
“A day of beauty and pampering at the Tamara Dahill Salon!”
Your Ideal Org News, OT Committee Newsletter; January, 2008
“Pre-Labor Day BBQ to help get an Ideal Org soon!”
Promo piece from Orlando Org; August, 2008
“Win a 2009 Prius!
An excellent way to help the OT Committee Build Our New Church in the San Fernando Valley and win this planet-friendly, fun-driving vehicle!!
Raffle will be held at the Valley Org, Nov. 22 (2008)”
Bulk e-mail, August, 2008
(Similar raffle just held at Miami Org)
LRH’s original tech (books and HCOBs) that he published and trained people on since 1950 ALL had to be rewritten as apparently the tech was wrong. How can any Scientologist that is dedicated to the writings of L. Ron Hubbard believe that he spent 30 or 40 years writing books, technology that were wrong? Is David Miscavige saying that LRH didn’t know what he wrote or what was published over this 30 year period? Apparently, he had faulty tech all of these years.
This article provides some insight into the current alteration of the tech. Scientologists: Was LRH Stupid?
That isn’t my opinion, that’s David Miscavige‘s opinion. Is Miscavige right? Was LRH really stupid?
Let me clarify.
LRH declared, in “Keeping Scientology Working”, that the technology was complete and was as perfect as it was ever going to get. He said don’t mess with it, don’t change it, and stop others from altering it.
Hubbard, over the years, personally taught many people how to apply the tech. He trained people on how to audit and supervise. He worked out all the training methods and content. When he trained the Flag auditors and supervisors, he declared their training to be “perfect“. He personally developed and approved all the auditor training courses, checksheets, etc.
Yet, only a few years after Hubbard’s death, Miscavige completely rewrote the technical training – methods and content, and dubbed it the “Golden Age of Tech”. He then canceled all the certificates of everyone trained under Hubbard‘s methods. Even those who had been personally trained by Ron. Personally trained by Ron!…
5. FAIR GAME POLICY AND DIRTY TRICKS
Alex Castillo writes an open letter to DM:
…It was not nice, David Miscavige, to have government agents showing up at my auto repair shop, putting a gun to my head and arresting me on the charge of being a “dangerous, armed criminal escaped from justice”. Me, I neither was nor armed (they searched my shop and all they could find was a lot of auto repair tools and equipment-the most dangerous “weapons” being screwdrivers), and clearly not an escaped criminal. Still, these people arrested me and took me straight to LA and dumped me into a holding cell.
An hour later the agents came back, took me out of my cell, guided me to a quiet corner and said (verbatum):” We know exactly how much the Church of Scientology paid to get you here. Here is a LA Times reporter business card. Call him and tell him your story. We are sorry but we had to follow up on their report about you. We have checked and you are not a wanted criminal”. (Anyone interested can read about that Op in Nancy Many’s book “My Billion Year Contract”)…
…The exact moment that changed was the day Scientology sent Child Services to our house. I remember that moment as if it’s frozen in time. To this day, I can remember the thoughts that ran through my head as I closed the front door of our house after our “visit” in April 2008.
My boys were 2 years old and 8 weeks old at the time.
The Child Services representative was extremely apologetic and told us that, by law, they were required to make a house visit because of an anonymous tip they’d received. He told us they’d looked into the claim and it was clearly false and invented, but that we needed to watch our backs since someone was obviously trying to make trouble for us…
From the book Inside Scientology by Janet Reitman.
The church’s attacks against Paulette Cooper.
Church operatives tapped her phones, broke into her apartment, posted her number on bathroom walls, and handed out fliers to her neighbors, alleging that she was a prostitute. They also stole Cooper’s stationery; then they framed her. Using her stationery, they sent several bomb threats to the New York Church of Scientology in 1973. As a result, Cooper was arrested and indicted on three counts of felony; she faced fifteen years in prison if convicted.
For months, my anxiety was so terrible I could taste it in my throat,” Cooper later wrote. “I could barely write, and my bills especially legal ones, kept mounting. I couldn’t eat. I couldn’t sleep. I smoked four packs of cigarettes a day, popped Valium like M&Ms and drank too much vodka…
Dirty tricks against Tom Devocht
On Friday afternoon, two narcotics officers with the Burbank, Calif., police department reportedly showed up at Tom DeVocht’s door on an anonymous tip—complete with dubious photographic evidence—that the former Scientology executive was selling drugs in the area….
Below are actual accounts of Marty Rathbun of the dirty tricks played on an attorney that was handling numerous lawsuits against Scientology.
Affidavits by four church defectors…allege that church members have conducted numerous acts of harassment against Flynn for the ultimate purpose of undermining him and his cases. Included in the affidavits were assertions that, in addition to rifling his trash, church members had:
— Contacted some of Flynn’s non-church clients and told them that he had cheated them out of money.
— Telephoned the Internal Revenue Service with false financial information about him, hoping to spur a tax probe.
— Monitored Flynn’s activities closely by watching and photographing visitors to his office and by calling his bank regularly to determine how much money he had deposited in his account, the number of which had been found in his trash.
— Tried repeatedly to plant operatives in his office.
The church are now attacking Marty Rathbun’ wife Monique Rathbun (she has never even been a Scientologist).
….From 2010 to the present, the Scientologists have targeted me specifically for harassment. They have worked to drive a wedge between me and my husband, family, and co-workers. Scientology investigators have visited my mother, my father, my former husband, my friends, and my co-workers. The investigators have falsely claimed to all of these contacts that my life is at risk as long as I remain with my husband. These malicious allegations are hateful and distressing.
Presumably because I am a woman, the Defendants seem obsessed with my sexuality. They sent a sex toy to me at my workplace, which was very embarrassing. With their constant surveillance of me, they knew when I was away from the office, at which time they sent flowers to one of my female co-workers with a “romantic” message purporting to be from me. Of course this was distressing to me.
Scientology websites have published bizarre and sometimes vile allegations against me, including false claims that I am a sexual pervert. They have even alleged that I am not even a woman, but a man who has had a secret sex-change operation. So, I have even had my womanhood questioned as part of this sick campaign to inflict maximum emotional distress on me…
6. DAVID MISCAVIGE/COB
Most of Miscavige’s own family are kicked out of the church and have no communication with David. His own father is out and is writing a book about David and the church, David had him followed by a private investigator. His wife – Shelly doesn’t have a husband-wife relationship. She lives in another property away from him and his management and has lived there for many years. His brother Ronnie is out of the church and has NO kind words to say about David. DM’s niece (Ronnie’s daughter) who was brought up in the church has left and written a book about her experiences in the church and David’s ruthless behavior.
David does have his twin sister that is still in the church – recently arrested though on a drug charge.
This is from the Tampa Bay Times:
“Her marijuana arrest is messy for the church because Scientologists have zero tolerance for mind-altering substances. They believe street drugs and psychiatric medicines make spiritual growth impossible…
This is from the LA Times about the PI by the name of Powell. The article also relates the story of the PI (Powell) speaking to DM on the phone telling him it looked like his dad is having a heart attack and DM said “let him die” or words to that effect.
For 18 months private detectives tracked every move made by the father of David Miscavige, leader of the Church of Scientology, as they eavesdropped, spied on his emails and planted a GPS unit on his car, according to police records….
…The church paid the two detectives $10,000 a week through an intermediary, the records indicate, all because Miscavige feared that his father would divulge too much about the organization’s activities….”
…Powell initially declined to name his employer. But at the police station, he told Det. Nicholas Pye that he was hired by the Church of Scientology to conduct “full-time” surveillance of the elder Miscavige, now 79, who lived in a nearby town, the records state…
Further in the article…
Once, while tailing Miscavige on a shopping trip, Powell and his partner watched him grasp his chest and slump over while loading his car. After his arrest, Powell told police he’d thought Miscavige was having a heart attack and might die. He said he phoned his intermediary for instructions.
Two minutes later a man who identified himself as David Miscavige called him back, according to records.
David told him that if it was Ron’s time to die, to let him die and not intervene in any way,” the records state, noting that the apparent emergency passed “and nothing further happened.
David Miscavige’s abuses
There are many sources who have testified to the abuses of David Miscavige. This story in the Tampa Bay Times covers some of them:
…men and women who joined Scientology as children, teenagers or young adults and spent decades laboring to advance the mission envisioned by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.
Morehead, who drives a tow truck in Portland and spent almost a decade as security chief at the church’s sprawling base outside Los Angeles, described how Miscavige struck a church executive in the chest so hard, “I could hear the hollow thump and see (him) lose his breath from the impacts.”
“You end up waiting a long time. Nobody f—— breathes, no one says anything. It’s dead quiet. You could hear a pin drop. Everybody’s just … waiting. Then finally COB walks in.
“He starts walking amongst us. Never says a word. Just stops and glares at each person. Sometimes he stops and sometimes he doesn’t stop. When he got in front of me he stopped, he looked at me, I looked back at him, careful not to seem to be resisting or whatever.
“He took a step forward. He stopped. He looked back at me again. He backed up, he looked at me even closer. He said, ‘He’s out-ethics. That son of a b—- is out-ethics,’ ” he’s breaking the rules of Scientology.
“Then he walked on, he walked down the aisle, looked at a couple other people, turned to start going down the next aisle right where Marc Yager was sitting on the end. And then suddenly, without warning, he starts slapping the bejesus out of Marc Yager, open-handed.”
There were as many as 10 head slaps. Yager didn’t resist, just put his arms up and took it.
For Hall, the last straw came in November 2003. Hall wrote scripts for Scientology videos and had been assigned to work under Mike Rinder, the church’s chief spokesman. Hall says he had creative differences with Miscavige, which was a problem, because nobody is to question the COB.
Miscavige came by to see an edited video. “He ordered Mike and me stand shoulder to shoulder. … So Rinder and I are pressed up against each other, and right up in front of us is DM … and he says, ‘Play the video.’ ”
The video over, Miscavige drew close. “We’re standing there sort of at attention. He looks at me, he looks at Rinder. He looks at me, he looks back at Rinder. And then suddenly, with violence, he flashed his arms up and grabbed Mike Rinder’s head and body-slammed his head into the cherry wood cabinets.
“He lifted Mike Rinder nearly off of his feet and smashed his head into the wall, and he banged his head into the wall three times, just BANG, BANG, BANG!”
A dozen others watched. “But everybody’s afraid to move, because anything you did would be like, ‘Are you making me wrong?’ Don’t make COB wrong. So if you showed any kind of reaction or upset, you would be, ‘making COB wrong.’ ”
Miscavige left the room. “Rinder stood there with his hair mussed, his shirttail out and red marks on his face.”
“It so could have been me,” Hall said. “And that was the message I got was that you’re next.”
Rinder said Miscavige abused him so often that his recollections of specific attacks sometimes run together. Asked about Hall’s account, he said, “That happened more than once.”
Though long disillusioned with his life in the Sea Org, Hall said he didn’t want to leave his wife, who was also a staffer. He finally accepted that he had to give her up and everything else.
His last day, church security went through his belongings and confiscated photos of his wife. They videotaped a lawyer posing questions and Hall taking blame for any problems he had with the church. He also promised never to sue the church.
“I had one last goodbye with my wife. … They told me she doesn’t want to go with you and it was her decision, we didn’t influence her in any way. They said you could talk … they led us to rooms.”
In tears, they hugged. “She told me all the rooms were bugged. She whispered all the rooms were bugged and they could probably hear it.”
He worked more than 15 years at the base, mostly in marketing and design. His TV spot featuring a rupturing volcano promoted Dianetics, Hubbard’s megaselling book.
Hawkins recalled the day in 2003 when he and a group of senior staffers toured one of Miscavige’s prized construction projects, Building 50, a colossus of buffed metal, chrome and marble.
Leading the pack from room to room, Miscavige was every bit the voluble docent, extolling the unique features.
“I was standing by the door and as he’s walking out and without any warning, he rabbit punches me right in the gut. … Just a quick punch to the stomach, right under the rib cage.”
Another time, a meeting of Hawkins’ marketing team, Miscavige turned angry. “He gets pissed off at me for whatever reason. I was usually the punching bag. And he wails on me and knocks me to the ground.”
“I stand up and he notices my cheek is bleeding. So, he called his assistant (Laurisse Stuckenbrock). He says, ‘Lou,’ and points to my face. She rummages in her purse and gets out a bottle of antiseptic that she carries with her, believe it or not. And she daubs that on my face. So, it’s like she knows the drill. If there is a visible mark, then that’s got to be taken care of.”
Before leaving, Miscavige turned to Hawkins. “He says to me, ‘Do you know why I beat you up?’ ”
“I say, ‘No, sir.’ ”
“He says, ‘To show you who’s in charge.’ ”
Church executive Amy Scobee previously told the Times about a day she was working in her office cubicle at the edge of a conference room when a Sea Org member landed at her feet, with Miscavige on top of him. It was Hawkins underneath.
Hawkins said dozens of Sea Org members had been summoned to the international management conference room. The leader did not like the latest infomercial script.
“He was reading out sections of it with great sarcasm. And then he started pointing at me and saying, ‘Look at how he looks at me.’ ”
Hawkins tried to explain himself, which only got him in deeper.
“You see that disrespect?” he said Miscavige shouted to the group. “You see how he talks to me?”
Miscavige jumped onto the conference table, Hawkins said. “He’s like crouched in the middle of the table, and then he launches himself at me.”
Hawkins fell back off his chair and landed in Scobee’s work cubicle.
Two other defectors who attended the meeting confirmed Hawkins’ account. Two current executives who were there say it didn’t happen.
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In August 1990, he was up on a scaffold painting the inside of a garage when in came Miscavige, assistants in tow.
Miscavige told Fisher to come down.
“He put his hands around my throat,” Fisher said, and shouted, ” ‘You want to sue Scientology?’ ”
Fisher said he collapsed and curled up as Miscavige kicked and punched him and pulled the hair on the back of his head.
Fisher stood, touched the back of his head, showed his bloody palm and told Miscavige: “You notice I did not lay one finger on you.”
That was the end for Fisher. “I didn’t join Scientology to see people get beat up.”
Morehead said he witnessed this, as did defector Marc Headley. But Yager said he was present and, “at no time did Mr. Miscavige strike or otherwise harm Fisher.”
…
Miscavige poked his head in the office, Hines recalled, and said: “There he is.”
Without another word, Hines said, “He hit me in the head. He just hit me in the head, in the side of the head,” an open-handed blow.
“It did sting and it did knock me back. And then he got right up in my face and was kind of yelling at me. Then he walked out. The next thing I knew, I was on the RPF.”
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In 2004, Headley led Miscavige on a tour of the A/V area. Miscavige asked about a timetable on a project, and Headley said he made the mistake of answering in a “smart-aleck” tone.
He said Miscavige pushed him against a shelf unit and started punching him. He fell onto a countertop, and Miscavige continued to slug him in the chest.
When it ended, Headley said, senior Sea Org member Greg Wilhere pulled him aside and explained that Miscavige had come from a difficult meeting. Wilhere said in a written statement that Headley’s entire account is “a complete lie.”
7. PAST TOP EXECS – NOW TURNED AGAINST THE CHURCH
The reason for listing just a few of the current critics of Scientology is to make the point that they were mostly ALL involved with the SO or Scientology for decades and were either working at one time directly for LRH or for David Miscavige. The Church calls them disaffected and bitter and yet they were at the top of their fields for many years. Again, questioning how were they for 20 or 30 years the right hand men of the leaders of the church and now all of a sudden horrible, “liars” and “cheats” and “did a terrible job at their posts”. Did they change or did the Church. Also, why didn’t the church “handle” their problems over the 20 or 30 years if they were such bad players.
There are many, many others that I could have listed as the church has so many critics but this sampling should suffice as an example of major players in the church, now “insane liars”.
Marty Rathbun: Wrote 3 books against Scientology Has an anti Scientology blog. His wife is currently suing the Church.
Became a Church staff member in 1978, and joined the RTC board in 1987. Played a major role in various Church victories, including the negotiation of the Church’s tax exemption agreement with the Internal Revnue Service in 1993. In 1998, Florida newspaper the Tampa Bay Times described Rathbun as “top lieutenant” to Scientology leader David Miscavige. Was one of the highest trained auditors and even audited Tom Cruise.
Mike Rinder: Has a very successful anti-Scientology blog. Has been on numerous TV news and talk shows speaking out against Scientology.
Joined the SO at 18 years old where he worked on the Apollo with LRH.
From 1982 to 2007, Rinder served on the Board of Directors of CSI and also held the post of Executive Director of its Office of Special Affairs (OSA).
Debbie Cook: Wrote an email to 17,000 Scientologists revealing the off-policy actions of Miscavige and Int Management.
…”Although I am not in the Sea Org right now, I served in the Sea Org at Flag for 29 years. 17 of those years were as Captain FSO. I am a trained auditor and C/S as well as an OEC, FEBC and DSEC….”
Jesse Prince: Interviewed for “Going Clear”. Published many articles and videos on the internet.
Class IX auditor. Deputy Inspector General RTC. In Scn for 16 years. DM’s Auditor & Sec Checker
David Mayo: Started a squirrel Scientology Organization
Read LRH books in 1957. Joined Auckland org in 1959 for 8 years. Did the Briefing Course under LRH in 1962. Joined the SO in 1968. Snr C/S directly under LRH on the Apollo. 1978 called to INT to audit LRH. LRH appointed him Senior C/S International.
Hana Whitfield: Outspoken critic of Scientology. Spoke on the movie “Going Clear”.
Joined Scientology in 1965, at 24 years old. Clear #60, Class 7, Captain of 2 of LRH’s ships, the Avon River in 1967 and also the Apollo. LRH appointed her Deputy Commodore. In the SO for 22 years.
Claire Headley: Wrote an anti-Scientology book.
Raised as a Scientologist. Joined the SO in 1991, as a teenager and worked for 14 years at Int (Gold).
Marc Headley: Wrote best selling anti-Scientology book.
Raised as a Scientologist. Joined the SO in 1989 as a teenager and worked for 16 years at INT.
Jenna Miscavige: Wrote an anti-Scientology book
Niece of David Miscavige. Born into the Sea Org at Int. In Scientology her entire life until blowing the Sea Org and later writing a book about life at the INT ranch for SO children and being torn from her parents.
Bitty Miscavige: Mother of Jenna Miscavige who wote an Anti-Scientology book.
Joined the SO as a child of 16 and worked on the ship Apollo in the early 1970s. In late 1980s was C/O CMO. Then promoted to Inspector General. Married to DM’s brother – Ronnie Miscavige Jr.
Karen de la Carriere: Has an Anti-Scientology Blog. Quite outspoken.
Class XII C/S – LRH signed all of her certs on the Apollo. …”After 6 months of hell at INT BASE, courtesy of Miscavige, I was sent to audit NOTS at AOLA and routed out of the Sea Org in 1990.
Nancy Many: Wrote an anti-Scientology book
For more than two decades she worked at all levels of the organization, from serving as a personal aide to the founder of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, who placed her in charge of the religion’s worldwide expansion to becoming the head of Celebrity Center, the organization that caters to its celebrity members.
Tom Devocht: Worked closely with David Miscavige for years. Became a friend of Miscavige & unwittingly, one of his henchmen. Worked on a project that spent many millions of dollars in parishioner donations on a roughly 40,000-square-foot building at the International Base near Hemet, California.
It was “Building 50,” or the headquarters of the Religious Technology Center, the controlling entity of Scientology, which Miscavige runs as its Chairman of the Board. (Hence, the name he’s called by lowly parishioners, “COB.”
This is a list published on the Why We Protest Scientology Wiki
…The following is a list of people that have left the official Church of Scientology organization and have spoken out publicly against it. Although some of them still believe in the validity of the core precepts and practice them outside of the Church of Scientology, all of them have denounced the legitimacy of the organization itself. The names are listed alphabetically by last name. As of the last count, there are 2637 names on this list.
There are thousands more who left, and have yet to come forward to tell their story, and there are also hundreds more who spoke out who did not want their names known. We hope that the courage of those named here empowers more people to come forward with their stories of abuse to ultimately prevent such abuses from ever taking place again…
Note: That is a very outdated list.
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The only real criticism I could level at this write up is that it is light on the financial side. It mentions some violations of policy concerning fundraising, but doesn’t cover the lies, false promises, bankruptcies, manipulations and greed that are the stock in trade of scientology.
There is an enormous amount of information out there concerning the criminal rip-off scientology and its related entities are engaged in. A summary of it would be a useful addition to this.
At the very least one can start with the Letter From Garcia.
Peter, Post script: I want to add a few words to my post of suggestions above, in particular to number 4: Some statements of Hubbard’s such as:
keeping scn free,
and as Mike quotes on this blog,
“We own a tremendous amount of property. We own a tremendous amount of material and so forth, and it keeps growing. But that’s not important. When buildings get important to us, for God sakes, some of you born revolutionists will you please blow up central headquarters”. L Ron Hubbard Lecture 31 Dec 1960
and any others that support this point,
have to be enforced.
And have demonstrators sell books, which are critical of Hubbard and the cos such as by Jon Atack and others too numerous to mention, to the public, where ever possible.
Thank you clearlypissedoff, an excellent article. I will be using this to help someone who has **finally** admitted that something is wrong within the CoS, and that the abuses should not be overlooked and tolerated.
Whew, this one was a tough nut to crack but the crack has formed. 🙂
I love the picture of the herd of sheep; they are such docile and meek creatures. Sheep need a shepherd.
U know, I’ve always wondered, since SO are required to come back after 21 years off once they drop their body, how many have come back? Obviously they have the super powers to that, right? So how many have reported for duty? How many have showed up and said I was so & so? Did anyone come back? Or, after they died, did they think, “Alright!!! Now I’m finally REALLY out! Hey suckers! I’m not comin’ back! Just wondering…
A person would have to be in the Sea Org currently, or someone that came back, re-joined Org and left in order to know. I did overhear a Sea Org member at Flag acknowledge that she was in the Sea Org for the rest of this life “…and a couple of more lifetimes to come…”. I think she is still in there.
But, as far as disconnection, declares, abortions, tech & policy, fair game, David Miscavige and former church leaders goes; a good example of the truth is Leah Remini. She left Scientology and her WHOLE FAMILY (all Scientologists) left with her PUBLICLY rather than wait for disconnection miracles to kick in.
That is real ARC. Real KRC. Real TRUST. Instead of severing relations with people and then fair gaming them. So there is more than 1 side to this coin of critics on the subject. 🙂
And in addition. I was Leah Remini’s mother Vicki Ferrara’s word clearer when she was on her Hubbard Standard Dianetics Course in New York. So that gives you an idea of how long some of us have been watching this game play out. I will be dropping my body in the future, but I am already sure, I will be joining the Sea Org or staff anytime soon. Rather than live this life with the truth about Scientology and then come back and return to that chaos. I would rather remain Independent for the time being.
And Vicki was a VERY dedicated Scientologist. I knew this when I met her. She did after all get her whole family involved in it. Oh, and incidentally, I meant I will NOT be joining the Sea Org or staff any time soon. My apologies for the typo in my response before this to your comment.
Hi OSD, You know this spirit has put The Sea Org in the rear view mirror forever.Where I’ll be playing is so much more infinite and sparkling than any return to slavery could ever hope to be.Love your posts, you always make me smile and laugh about it all.Ann.
So far back that the ONLY way to see it is to squint. It’s almost like it’s not even there anymore…..
Hi OSD, Love your post! So far back we have to squint! However Miss Annie now has eagle eyes lens implants and I do not need to squint anymore. So my SO pix is clear but getting more distant by the second.
Can you feel the train whistle piecing the fog and darkness as we speed toward the Oscars?! No matter what I am so f###### proud of Mike and All who got this game-changing film into the light.The candle I lit in my heart for Going Clear… will explode to a celebration Bonfire if it gets the nod, and if not I will still have it burning in me for all of you and the Truth! Love U Both, Ann.
I know I keep beating a dead horse here, but I want to keep beating it so that maybe our dear friend, Heber, can get free before he passes away. To me, this is one of the most inhumane injustices that I have seen David Miscavige commit.
Please, folks, ask about Heber within the Scn community, send information to media, etc. so that maybe Heber won’t be right about what he said to his brother – “I’ll probably never get out of here alive”.
Here’s a post that Mike Rinder made in 2010 on Marty Rathbun’s blog. It’s been 5 years since then. Heber is now 80 YEARS OLD. I would like to see my friend released from his prison before he dies.
Please share Mike Rinder’s post (and these others’): https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/04/04/
Tony Ortega in 2012: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/scientology-president-heber-jentzsch-told-his-brother-ill-never-get-out-of-here-alive-also-alex-jentzschs-last-phone-call-6711825
Images. Take your pick to send along to the media: https://www.google.com/search?q=heber+jentzsch&biw=1665&bih=827&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjy6aiYl43KAhVY3WMKHR0DDPIQ_AUIBygC
Last known picture of Heber at his son’s memorial service in 2012. Not looking so great: http://images1.villagevoice.com/imager/u/original/6705927/hebergerson.jpg
Tony’s article about Heber and Alexander: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/scientologists-told-that-alexander-jentzsch-died-of-reaction-to-prescribed-painkiller-6705930
Please make this an issue, deserving of the press’ time, because it is. It is elder abuse and felony kidnapping. And he is our friend.
Happy New Year, dear Heber. We want to see you again, this year, with a lot of life left in you.
Are you reading this, DM? Let him out, now. Safe. Call Heber’s brother and make him take Heber off your hands. If he dies up there, at the base, you’ll be in deep sh*t. Capiche? Save yourself. Look like a hero. Let him go. ASAP.
Hi indie8million, You are one of my heroes. But Heber will float into my mind now and then. I knew Yvonne by name and she me from my letters to her. And she did quire a few shining brilliant briefings at Asho I will never forget.The sweetest, strongest soul!! But I did see Heber once or twice and always had a good feeling from him then.All imprisoned should be allowed to leave if they want. Shelley too if she is not too physically ill.No-one should have their Spirit hijacked from them forever.No-0ne should ever be in The Hole or the morgue for that matter in the name of Religion or Spirituality ever. Love X Infinity, Ann.
Brilliant post indie8. I didn’t know Heber very well but I read one of the links you provided. Makes one almost cry to think of a man, now in his 80’s, being treated the way DM treated him and no doubt is to this day. Someone should do what Leah Remini did and file a missing persons report with the LAPD, or whatever it is she did for Shelley. Maybe forcing DM to produce him to a cop could result in something good. I’ll take this up with a few people I know that have a vested interest in his safety and could be motivated to do this.
Where is Heber? Is he alive?
Why does this question have to be asked????
This is SO heinous. It is incomprehensible to me that Scientology is getting away with kidnapping in addition to all of their other crimes.
In WHAT religion do family members disappear?? In WHAT religion do you have no idea whatsoever whether or not your friend is alive?
Keep Asking Indie8million. We have to keep asking. Where is Heber??
I am one of the Anons working on the big list.
I beg to differ on the phrase “That is a very outdated list.” regarding the big list of exes speaking out. By now there are 2659 names on the list.
Exactly because of the more often than sometimes harsh retaliation we Anons tend te be careful when adding. We MUST have PROOF of a person:
– having been in Scientology, e.g. by being in completions, or having a well know ex confirm him/her having been in.
– speak out somewhere on the net, on tv, in a paper etc. using his/her FULL own name, as in full first name and full last name.
The proof of both must be available on an open website, which means FB-posts don’t count because they are (mostly) behind a login. (I myself have copied a lot of FB-posts to WWP, as that board is open for everyone. You don’t need an account.)
Only when we have both we add a person.
This has more than once led to confusion. But we DO know there are far more people out there who were in and are no longer. Those people may speak out amongst friends and so, but again, we need more.
It is very simple: Anons don’t want to be responsible (even not indirectly) for COS breaking up families and what else.
Another (small) problem is that by now adding names to the big list is a job done by just three WWP-users: RightOn (who started the list), Incredulicide (does wiki) and me. There used to be more people helping.
I hope this clears up things a little.
If you want to be on the list, please make sure to speak out on an open forum, AND provide evidence that you were in. Check the “Additions” note on the big list page for more info.
My apologies Trev. I didn’t know the list was still being maintained. I am very grateful however for the work you do and thank you.
I wasn’t aware of your strict policy about how one makes the list. I appreciate the care you take to not be responsible for causing a family breakup.
(Guess I was clearly pissed off, LOL! No, of course not really/ 😛 )
You’re most welcome! 🙂
Thank you TrevAnon for your work on this. IIRC there is no ‘last updated’ note and I also thought it was outdated last I looked. I did get a response however when I sent links to get someone included about a year ago 🙂
I read you all almost every day….. and love it.
Let us (perhaps) give LRH this credit…….. whether knowingly or unknowingly he has brought us to this point where……. As Virgil says…….. ” Happy WE ARE for having learned the cause of things and to some degree this has put under our feet all fears, and the inexorable fate, and the noisy strife of the hell of greed”
Thanks Mike for your generosity of being.
Happy new year to all…..
Mike Moretti
Hi Mike Moretti, Happy 2016 to you and good to meet you. I liked your post. I read all here too.Learn, laugh, and love, Ann
Thank you for posting this, Mike. As you know, I believe that we all should be planting seeds to let people know, at the proper gradient, what is happening with this squirrel entity of current “$cientology”. This is a great reference to keep on hand to fill in the new stable data, once the truth has shaken the still-in’s old stable data.
Most people have been wronged in some way or have experienced one or more of the four flows of abuse at the hands of this current ‘church’. These points will show those good souls that they are not the only ones.
Hi indie8million, You are so kind and caring. I never thought I would get on a blog and bare my soul to any who wanted to read my posts. Mike has a way of gently pushing one off the fence and right into the mix and here I am. I so agree with you about still ins and trying to help them out. I so want all sheeple to leave the ties that bind so tightly, some may never get out! How I wish they would peek once out into the Sunshine and let their hearts guide them out, instead of sacrificing their bodies, minds and spirits on dm’s twisted altar.Love, Ann
Being in the SORG was kind of like having cats I liked the cats but I didn’t care much for having to eternally clean out the catbox. Prior to that experience I had good wins with the tech, the auditors, Cs’ at the local org and at Flag. I still have KAD friends in both places but I won’t go near them or open a real dialog because I don’t want to get regged or politely interrogated. The orgs creep me out and I perceive a certain pathos hanging over them. I have saved a few lives with the tech so that’s cool. I have a few close UTR’s
that I can freely communicate with as well as nons and that is just fine. I will say this about LRH. I think he did discover why the human race can’t seem to fix society but that’s another story,amnesia, denial maybe?…
Did not have the time to read all the way through, because we are moving (yes Gavino & OSA), but I get the post.
A very well put-together piece of work. It’s most helpful. I for one, will use it.
Thanks for the author and to Mike for posting it.
Dave,
Re: Problems
You have more civil complaints against you than Cosby. The judge has ruled that his WIFE will testify.
This is what happens when people worship ideas. Ron Hubbard had a great vision! Adolph Hitler had a great vision! (That’s just naming two) People became entranced by those ideas and lost sight of reality. If scientology were only about making YOU a happier person and not about the idea of saving mankind, it wouldn’t be necessary to sacrifice things of value to fulfill its aims.
We need some humor…
A Psychlo’s Guide to Dealing with the Enemy
issued by Teeny Whopper
High Marcabian Command of Farsec
First, when dealing with Scns in a confrontation, smile. Take a few deep breaths. Imagine a sunflower radiating from your solar plexus. Act as if you’re the most wonderful, most loving, most positive thing you can think of. If you can summon it in yourself, love them, if only as silly little children who can’t understand life outside the Church. You’re not evil, who has to be negative, they are. They expect negativity. They expect hatred and opposition. They wish you should be the worst of the worst. So….
Always remember, truth is on your side. They have only the word of a charlatan.
Think of the TOS Star Trek character Gorgon: his power only holds sway on children who don’t remember what life was like with their families. In Westville, I’d ask when they’ve been out to walk in the park, about the Art Fair coming up, whether the food in the House of Chao is as good as they say.
Expect insults. Don’t wisecrack back. Instead, have a canned, noncommittal answer, such as “I understand.” or simply “Interesting.” (This is basic TR’s, and will make them wonder what you know.)
Don’t throw memes around, or OT material. They probably won’t know what you’re talking about. Instead, make references to the TR’s, as shown above and to the book “Dianetics”. Memorize a few passages, and their page numbers. Ask what they think about them, what’s “their take”.
If they get angry, and start throwing around phrases like “my religion”, immediately shut down. The angrier they get, the more like a good nanny you should be: you’re so sorry, are their feelings hurt, it must be very frightening and harsh to deal with a big, cruel world that doesn’t understand them. Act as if you’re soothing a fretful child: your attitude of calm authority is something familiar, and will help them regain their composure. Pull apart what they think about the Inquisition or the Crusades. Point out that most Christians don’t believe in Jonah and the Whale, literally, but how can Jesus be so bad, if he could advocate a little kindness, now and then?
If at all possible, do a small, kind act for them. If they are Sea Org, see if they want something to eat or drink. Don’t talk about their working conditions, just feed them, preferably a luxury item like hamburgers.
They might try to turn the discussion around, to try to convert you. Agree — up to a point. No, you don’t have any extra money right now. Yes, you already have a Dianetics book — and have studied a few of the others, as well. Wonder aloud whether Ron really understood physics: after all, he liked Einstein, but the “MEST” formula directly contradicts Special Relativity. You read “A History of Man” but didn’t think much of his theory of evolution. But of course, you’re just a gollywog (look up the toy reference, and use the whole word), and so if you could discuss one of these books with me….Now, what does he mean when…
Every other religion on earth enjoys discussing the Sacred Scriptures. To a Scientologist, this is “Word Tech” and can’t be tolerated. Emphasize this fact. This is one of the things that religion is all about, along with family, the love of community, and ties to the greater good, especially outside the Faith. Talk about the Good Samaritan, what it meant in the first century Palestine to obey the laws of hospitality, even if they were different than you. (If they are second-generation, this will be an utterly alien (athem) concept.) It should be understood that you should never, ever sign anything.
Have fun. Be silly. Carry a cell phone at all times. And our love to all of you….Mmm…my catamite lover…let’s have a joint…Ooh, those cakes look go-ood….
It’s funny, teleny. Many a true word is spoken in jest
And don’t bogart that joint, either talent!
I mean relent. Aging eyes…
Crap! I Meant teleny!!! Damn autocorrect.
I was going to make a humorous comment on the image at the top but I can’t.
I will say that I would never defile a cesspit by dropping the sorry carcass of DM in it.
Excellent compilation! Dovetails, incidentally, very well with the “Arrows in the dark” book I’m currently reading and which I highly recommend. Not only a great read but it fills in many gaps left by other writings on Scn. and how it’s arrived at its current state. More and more the light of truth is being shone on the darkness of Miscavige and his clones.
From my own personal viewpoint, there are sociopathic elements that hobby horse on “ethics” and re stimulating people with invalidation using “ethics”.
The folks that lean on this the most, I have found one for one, to have serious ethics issues of their own and histories of criminality. Or of being attracted to criminal elements in various capacities.
Always with some hugely synthetic air of “holiness”, the person glares and snorts about others “ethics”. This being part of their own ATTITUDES pain emotion and sensation pool of darkness. People use this as a ser fac and to introvert others. Most Scientologists have no idea of ethics as being something hugely enforced on people by attitudes, and make decisions frequently in the “ethics” office they come to deeply regret as their own personal integrity is violated.
The flagstone for obtaining money for the super power building was telling customers Scientology was failing “because all of the OT’s were “out ethics”. This was cleverly used to obtain billions of dollars for which no exchange was given. How fkn criminal and dark is that?
By the 1970’s Hubbard himself was so remorseful of the ethics policies he had issued that in LRH ED 119 Int 27 Aug 70, MY OWN OBJECTIVES, Hubbard wrote: “I am working to cool off ethics. a) Man can’t really be trusted with justice. b) My own reality is dismayed as to why all the stir ups in Orgs and areas. Why don’t people just get on with it?”.
To decide is to be responsible. When you do not let people decide for themselves, you are taking responsibility away from them. How “ethical” is that?
Who is just itching crazy to get into a cop valence and police others, if not people that have lingered on the other side of that in criminality?
Yes, all over the Internet the subject of Scientology is littered with testimony of how people have been set up for losses with Scientology. How ethical is it to go with your tail between your legs and sit before someone that has never walked a mile in your shoes, does not carry any of the burdens you carry, does not have your goals or purposes, your destiny, your education, your personal aims, your obligations, or your eternity, and have that person over ride you and enforce ideas, choices and purposes on you that align with THEIR goals and ambitions? THEIR duties. THEIR self interests? And THEIR F.P.? These kind of events are nothing but DEGRADES. The ethics officers make degraded beings. That is exactly what they do.
Hubbard begged people in 1970 to knock it off. But the police force he mocked up had already taken on a force of it’s own he could no longer control. It chewed him up and now it is chewing any redeeming value and has become a whirl of anti magic filled with dark forces incapable of elightenment.
The Church is incapable of issuing anything but false reports in it’s literature and flyers now, and Mike Rinder dedicates his time to translating, so factual information can be forwarded to someone, anyone! And look at how he is fair gamed for being HONEST!!!!!!
Why don’t people just get on with it? This baffled even Hubbard in 1970. Now the Church sells status’ and begs as it’s primary purpose.
I have my own theories, but these are things people should decide for themselves. I do not think it is possible to “get on’ with anything in the Church of Scientology today, except throwing money at it. And it is spilling all over the sidewalks. Don’t think it is contained over there. It spills out here into little groups that claim to be “the most ethical” and “dedicated to putting ethics in”.
That given, we are exploring the invisible and the supernatural. And if people don’t have their own codes and morals, the ones they make for themselves, not the ones borrowed from someone else’s mind, they are standing on fragile bubbles that go pop.
P.S. I think mainly, “Other people’s out ethics”, is the only thing Scientologists can comfort themselves with, about the long term nightmare Scientology has been for the past three decades.
This may be my all time favorite post. THANK YOU.
Touche.
There’s 2 Che? Huh…I thought there was only one. Never mind
Hi The Oracle, One of your best posts! All you wrote danced like crystals or sparks of insight. I also feel dm and cos is out for money only & mad to get more, to the point of total absurdity. Your part about ethics officers putting their own valence onto the one in ethics, that is carved in titanium in my memory. Very True and it does screw a person up. Did me after a year of it. Shine On, XO Ann
Personally, I think it is ethical to make your own rules, the ones that you choose. It is only unethical in a group, when you fail to disclose those rules to others and/or have hidden agendas. Then, it is treasonous. There is nothing wrong with people living life on their own terms. If they want to live homeless on the street and those are their terms, that is fine with me.I don’t have attitudes about homeless people. Hell, maybe they need some space.
P.S. But your average Scientologist passing a homeless man on the street, do you know what kind of attitudes they would mock up?
“He’s so out ethics because he isn’t locked into a mortgage at 3.6 interest rate.”
“He’s so out ethics because he isn’t locked into a lease agreement.”
“He’s so out ethics, he hasn’t taken his vitamins.”
“He must have lots of overts, he isn’t driving a lease car paying Bank of America.”
“He must have lots of overts, he doesn’t even eat organic.”
“He’s in confusion, he isn’t even sitting at a designated work place.” etc etc etc.
And these attitudes just roll out. And people think their attitudes are “ethics”. They are just attitudes. They are not ethics and in fact, handicap people in invisible ways. The Scientologist who walks by a homeless man on the street , will be of no value to that homeless man. All the while smugly thinking to themselves, they are the only real value on the street.
And this is exactly what you are dealing with, in ethics and justice cycles in the church, attitudes. To sit and watch Tom Cruise on that video talk about Scientologists being the “only ones that can help”, and watching him with that attitude, has to be one of the biggest out P.R. flaps the church has ever had. .
You forgot to mention one classical statement from Scientologists , dear Oracle : “He totally pulled it in”. :-)))
Laughter!
@Theta Clear .. you are so right as you can be right .. he totally pulled it in per scientologese .. only that he founds never out how he did it .. we should say he pushed it in .. making someone guilty for overts ist per LRH the greatest overt ..
You know, that is what “ethics” means in the outside world.
It concerns those decisions which fall outside the power of the law that you take based on your personal values. It has nothing to do with laws or rules. If you can justify a decision based on the values you hold dear, then that decision is ethical for you. Sometimes it might mean doing something that is illegal or against the rules or mores or the time, like an old black lady who decides to sit in front of a bus.
If you take these decisions based on other people’s or an organization’s values, and these values contradict your own, then by definition those decisions are not ethical.
Ethics cannot be imposed from outside, it’s your own conscience of what is right and wrong.
Well said.
Nicely stated viewpoint Oracle. I see much to agree with and indeed the “getting on with it” is a matter of what part of what game you’re in or are playing imo. Intelligence in relation to survival can be measured in such a manner. Aberration seeks to survive too (this is it’s universe), so at what point does separating who or what’s survival matters most? I believe the auditing chair, properly convened and strictly by the code is the only place such decisions can be made or to set up an individual for their own decision making process in matters of the survival of their dynamics, the rest is just a game of randomity or survival of the fittest etc.
Concerning scientology, ethics will always be a failed subject if auditing (and that involves both giving and receiving auditing, that is most important) is not worked concurrently. Both of those activities have been gradiently and systematically destroyed within Scientology Organisations. How something is done is just as important as the tech of it.
Miscavige’s survival is paramount in that organisation presently, it is only others who place the value of time upon it.
Group think nearly always comes down to the individual who can influence or is in charge of it or at worst an automation. Sanity is a luxury hard won and quite foreign to most.
I agree with you, in that arena. Back in the day, when Scientology was in a boom, and the org I was at, was packed wall to wall. There was no Flag Land Base, No I.A.S., No sauna, no vitamins, and yes, not even an ethics officer. If you could breath on a mirror, you could audit. If you could breath on a mirror, you could get a session. People didn’t even have to have metab. At least, I do not recall any of that in my early auditing. All you had to do to be session able was to be straight, (not stoned). It was all about the auditing.
You go to Flag now, it is all about the donations and the beggars. You become a “member”, it is all about the events, the real estate, the “idealness” of it all. Which Ideal scenes are so far south on the admin scale it isn’t even funny. The Church is in, “must be contributed to”. And when the auditors land there, they can not audit. And I’ve seen some funny things happen with auditors that leave the Church that are in “must be contributed to”. Auditors that hold the cans instead of giving them to the P.C.. Auditors that run a session and the entire time, they are the only ones talking.
The people that are “getting on with it” are the sub cultures distanced from all Miscavige has mocked up. The Russians (independents) and the Nation of Islam. The underground in the U.S.A.. A few Independents that can ask a question, shut up, and wait for an answer. Those are the people just getting on with it. Everyone else is busy busy busy doing all kind of motion around fixed ideas, emotion, and attitudes. Generating more attitudes. Those attitudes spread like a virus and are more deadly than any reactive mind. They are more covert in seeping under a person’s skin. People think they are harmless.
What is CCHR but a group of people with mutual out ruds because of their bad attitudes about other people in the mental health industry?
What is OSA but a group of people with mutual out ruds because of their bad attitudes?
These “social betterment groups”….they are all grouped together with mutual out ruds held in place with bad attitudes. Bad attitudes about drugs, education, mental health, crime etc etc.
They all have the same stat in the org, INCOME. CCHR too, along with the IAS. And when they can get a Scientologist to have the same bad attitude AGAINST something or someone, they have a donation cycle. They actually make money by getting people to mock up similar bad attitudes. That is exchange.
Scientologists were supposed to audit. Not reduce crime, eradicate this and that, stomp out this and that, booby trap systems, and all the other madness Miscavige has entered into the mix as purpose. But if he can get someone to mock up a bad attitude, he is into their bank account and they are on board of the “Mutual out ruds” club. His power is to re stimulate. The power of these “social betterment groups” is to re stimulate!
“Scientologists were supposed to audit. Not reduce crime, eradicate this and that, stomp out this and that, booby trap systems, and all the other madness Miscavige has entered into the mix as purpose”.
That says it all really and could easily be used as a definition as to what is a Scientologist.
Do you audit? No = not a Scientologist (yet).
If yes – is that part of the Bridge? Not miscavge’s but Hubbards.
Quite a list of questions around this could be conceived but that is what ethics truly is, removing the barriers to actual auditing, not the reverse as miscavige does and uses it to stop auditing and steal money.
It’s a simple system when applied without weird attitudes invading it and does result in caring people.
There was a time when people really did care. It was all very sincere. The people were sincere. I was in the right place at the right time. I wish it could go on and on for others. It is not easy all of the time, to keep on walking and not look back. Survivor’s guilt , can be a challenge.. But I am learning to overcome it.
Hi The Oracle, Excellent post. Yes that old Survivors Guilt ! just when I think I have wrestled that duo to the ground,after midnight,up they pop! Back we’ll get em together! XXOO Ann.
I’m over it. Because I have recently become aware of “collateral damage”. There are winners and losers, and makers of the game. True. There is also collateral damage in between. I have come to see that as a missing datum. There is a lot of collateral damage in this theater. People that are neither winners or losers, just collateral damage. People parked in treason. People parked in blindness. People who could not see. People who could not hear or calculate. They just became road kill or collateral damage. It is a real shadowy type of player that floats like a substance on the pond and is long gone as a vital influence and hangs in a nebulous gray. It does nor think of itself as a winner or loser and neither commits itself. It is just collateral damage that is not even aware that it is.
People that have gone to the dark side, and don’t even know they are there. That is collateral damage.
Hi The Oracle, Thank you, I never thought of it that way. There is always a sliver of wiggle room for anyone to change if they really want. I just ran into some dark masses all the way round. Love, Ann
Yep, it’s toughie sometimes… but such is the nature of reversing most flows.
Caring is good and is on the right side of the ledger, so is doing what is right.
The journey has only but started…
I see it the same way. It is not the end of the world, we are still in the cradle.
Hi I Yawnalot, A nice post and I do agree. Not all thetans I knew in Sea Org had horns, hooves and tails. Your last line does make sense in that Indies can be caring people, I do not doubt some of them are.Where I get tangled up in silly string, is because how the non-auditing ( sec- checks from my first full day in SO and all the auditing I had thru Grade 4 was upside down and inside out.Then when I finally had a class 8 OT I can’t recall but an amazing C/S and auditor who had trained on Apollo, just when I felt I was going to be able to train as an auditor as well,I was told you are a DB and all was ripped away from me.So I still feel the application of tech in my case had to be known about.In other words if the tech was totally out as applied to me, why not kick me out and be done with me? Why keep me for a year and a half under total duress, for what purpose? Like a huge cat toying with a mouse, to me what happened was cruel.But I am out and Love is my weapon.Always Love, Ann
That’s a hard lesson in life Ann. Out tech has ever colour of human screw up and some of them are indeed cruel.
I spent a number of years at boarding college as a teenager and some of the episodes of callous inhumanity dealt out within that period parallel the Cof$’s treatment of you. Intentional cruelty is not nice at all to experience.
In scientologiese it’s called a games condition (amongst other things) and there are times it pays to get a little angry at certain things and never allow yourself to drop lower in tone about it, higher yes, but not lower.
There was a great line in a Young Indiana Jones movie when some big guy takes the artefact off young Indie but says something like, “kid, you don’t have to like this,” (the fact he had the item stolen off him).
Love is good but not for everything imo.
Take care…
Well, no offense to dear Clearlypissedoff , but the fact is that I got terrible bored after the first 6-12 parragraphs. This write-up has just too many out-points for me , but I know he/she meant well by writing it , and I very much validate his/her efforts.
This write-up attempts to make a bad case for DM (which is exact and accurate) , and a good case for LRH. The article is slanted in that it assigns DM authorship for all the Disconnections (because LRH was dead, of course) , emphatizing in it many times, “LRH was dead” , as in trying to disseminate the idea that LRH is inocent in all of this : HE ISN’T.
Of course that LRH didn’t order most of those disconnections , for Christ sakes, he was dead!!! ; how could he ? This is just silly.
And then attempting to build around the “logic” that because LRH “trusted those terminals” they were , by “logical consequence” , “good people” , is silly as well. I am not implying that they were bad at all (I am sure that most of them are and were ok) ; I am only pointing out to the gross, huge out-point of assigning LRH the quality of being a great judge of character, and that if he okayed something, then it must be all right then. That’s just bull-shit.
And then the writer comes again and assign LRH the quality of being a correct judge of what ought to be considered “moral” or not. “If LRH wrote that it was an ‘overt act’ on a Confessional list, then it is an overt act” , see ? “He wrote, ‘has you ever attempted an abortion’, so it is an overt act then”. That’s just bullshit. The writer apparently forgot to look 2 items down that list where there is a Confessional list question that reads, “Have you ever practiced homosexuality ?”. Wow!!! , LRH the great moralist. Horse shit!.
This article is only about how bad DM is, and INSIDIOUSLY about how INOCENT LRH was. That’s ALL this article is about ; obviously written by a KSW follower. It is enough to notice his/her comment “Created a ‘squirrel’ organization” when he referred to David Mayo , to understand where he/she is coming from.
No, dear Clearlypissedoff, I fully validate your efforts to bring those disconnection stories into the open ; you even made me cry, and that is not an easy thing. But you are too slanted towards LRH, and as most KSW followers , are too blind to his destructiveness which started all this in the first place.
You really want to do something EFFECTIVE about all this ? Start by recognizing the inherent harmfulness that many parts of Scn possesses in a unadulterated state, but exactly as written by LRH. Then we can talk about what can be done about it.
All this whining about DM just bores me to death. I discussed a possible solution to all this madness, a few months ago, and the 2-3 replies I did got was mere counter-intentions and how my strategy was not workable and impossible, blah, blah, blah, yawn, yawn, yawn. It was obvious to me then, than many are willing to participate in blogs like this one, but not in actively participating in ACTUAL physical actions in the real physical universe that requires sacrifices, time and money investment , and being exposed to attacks. So I said , “Fuck it ; if they don’t bother why should I ?”.
Anyway, I very much validate your efforts, but you must drop the blinders.
TC
I just added a note to the top of the article sent to me by clearlypissedoff. I was going to make a similar comment in response to yours above.
The public this was directed to are those that cannot right off the bat accept much (or any) criticism of LRH. It is a gradual process extracting oneself from inside the bubble. The first step is being willing to find ANYTHING wrong in scientology and acknowledge it. That is almost always attributed to anyone other than LRH. But it is a first step. Most people move beyond that. Some stick to the idea that LRH was perfect and it is only incompetents, evilly intentioned and those too stupid to standardly apply the tech that are at fault. But most move on and are then willing to begin looking beyond the blind faith in every word uttered by LRH.
That’s what I was thinking too — written for a target audience, first phase of an awakening. That was very much my own transition.
PHASE I: There was a fairly long period where I would say “the tech is good and has lots of good ideas and successes, but the organization is horrible.” (Before that, it was everything Hubbard said was good and write — though I always cringed inwardly at his butchering of science.)
PHASE II: The next phase was “yes, the organization is nearly evil, but you know, the tech is not perfect; a lot of the tech does not stand up to scrutiny or scientific validation.”
PHASE III: The next phase was “crap — Hubbard stole and plagiarized most of what did seem to work, he was scientifically and factually wrong again and again, and made up stuff out of whole cloth.”
PHASE IV: Today, “Hubbard was a deeply damaged, narcissistic sociopath, and possibly schizophrenic, who plagiarized good ideas to make his made-up space opera themes seem to have some meat to them so his concocted religion would thrive to his glory, who shamelessly lied about his past and his accomplishments, and who could not have been more unscientific despite his false claims to being one of the world’s first “atomic” physicists.”
I would assert that the above phased transitions represented, for me, a lot more progress on a road to freedom and self-determination than the grade chart, clear, or OT levels all combined ever did.
So through that lens, perhaps today’s article might aim at true believers who might be nudged up to Phase I or Phase II above. I do agree with Theta Clear though that for the article to be more effective it should not have insinuations that Hubbard was right about anything, for that would be reinforcing a lie that ultimately has to come undone.
Somehow, the human race has to embrace reason over faith of any sort, or we will be annihilated by one or another sect of true believers who not only do not fear their own death, but sometimes cherish death as as passport to their fantasy postmortem kingdom. If we can figure out how to do that with Scientology and religions in general, maybe we might just survive as a species.
Great description of the phases , FOTF2012 ; we apparently have similar wavelenghts.
” I would assert that the above phased transitions represented, for me, a lot more progress on a road to freedom and self-determination than the grade chart, clear, or OT levels all combined ever did.”
As I said , we definitively operate in similar wavelenghts. :-)))
Understood and fully agreed upon Mike ; thanks for the clarification.
Peter
Yes, the first move is out of the cherch. Then one discovers the REALLY bad things about the cherch, not just the poor service, for example.
And THEN, one starts to face the fact that Hubbard is the charleton of the piece.
Miscavige had a good mentor. And Miscavige is destroying scn which is great, actually.
Mike answered your post perfectly. This was written to use as a tool to help those “still ins” to open their eyes.
I actually wrote it to try to make a few of my disconnected children wake up to the cult and it’s abuses and come back to us. The next step would be to realize the tech is just as faulty as the founder was.
Even if it doesn’t help with my situation, maybe it could be useful for others with lost family members.
Hi clearlypissedoff, I was heartbroken reading about disconnection between parents, children, families in the post.I was spared that kind of pain, but I feel for those who live with it each day.And I was sad that all the Commodore Messenger Org members were gone and being able to read about wonderful SO members before me was nostalgic. As far as Ron goes in my experience with him, he was a spinner of dreams and stories, and a spinner of hearts minds and souls into his world which turned out to be not what he said it was.This messianic need to control at all costs was part of his situation at the end.brcause it appears he could not control illness & aging. And I see now how the mantra that he dropped the body to research new OT Levels is very clever.He turned spirits into slaves and now dm adds his spin to cos and that is a whole different twist he puts to the tattered bridge. I hope your post helps those who may have a small spark of wanting to know more about life outside. For me I can never go back to the time when I would have done anything for Ron & The Sea Org.I have seen too much and I know outside in freedom is so precious. Thank you.Love, Ann
Yes, I just saw Mike’s reply ; thank you. My apologies for having made assumptions about you in such a hurry. Your intentions are VERY honorable, and I thank you for that. I am really sad about your kids. I’ll pray for their safety and well being.
Please don’t lose hope. I really want to do something about this madness ; this is just driving me crazy. I made a proposal some months ago in this blog about two strategies to end these abuses once and for all. At that time, it was dismissed and ignored by most except Mike. I was just beginning to post here, so perhaps I was just thought of as a crazy KSW idealist. So I will briefly discuss them again to see what reaction it gets in a new unit of time. Regardless of that , may be we can get together and plan something effective, you and me. I can be reached at :
thetaclear68@yahoo.com
My name is Peter Torres . I don’t care about OSA or the CofS. They represent nothing to me but a bunch of cowards. I fear no evil, no harassment, no detectives, no character assassination . In fact, I lived a very disorderly life, and committed many things that I am not proud of. So any detective can have a field day with me. But I face the world head on with courage, and I am very much willing to face my ghosts. Therefore, I fear no evil, and may be, just may be I can finally be worthy of redemption if I help others recover from this madness. Right now, I am not worthy of it.
Now to go directly to the strategies , they are two ; one involving the ONU’s Human Rights Commission (now known as the “Human Rights Council”) , and the other involving a huge massive 7-days protest at 5 key locations (at least 1,000 at each location) : Flag , Saint Hill , LA , The UN’s Human Right Commission chapter in NY, and The IRS building . Both strategies requires ample participation of those that have been harmed in any way by Scientology (disconnection, harassment, fair-gaming, etc) , and of those who are against Human Rights abuses. W/out that ample participation , this won’t work. We are now at a “Make Break Point” in the fight against the CofS thanks to all those freedom fighters that requires an entire post just to mention them all. A “Make Break Point” in that all the efforts by others to expose the many crimes that the CofS have committed are finally paying off , and the public opinion is massively against the cult with more and more individuals being willing each day to confront the Church and publicly criticize their abusive practices w/out fearing the Church’s methods at “Attacking the critics and dissenters”.
Today is more easy to attack the CofS , and more easy to broadly expose them thanks to all those freedom fighters , Mike Rinder being the top one. This blog, many others, many books, and the recent HBO doc , have planted the needed seeds which can ignite an international coordinated event to finally force the CofS to publicly (and for real) change its strategy about handling critics and dissenters , and to end each and every disconnection order that they have ever issued. We now have the means to force them to do just that. This battle will not be won in courts ; it’ll be won in the Public Relations arena , and its incredible power to bring about social changes.
The emotional pain that hundreds of families are going through due to being disconnected from their love ones , is just too inhuman. Every time I read a new disconnection story my heart breaks in a thousand pieces. I can’t even bear the thought of being separated from my child , and seeing so many people spending these special family holidays w/out their family is just something very hard to confront ; it just breaks my soul.
I beg you all, I implore you to please let’s do something about this now. Enough is enough. Many victories have been won along the way , but we can’t wait years and years for this to end. We must take advantage of the created momentum to deliver an effective blow that will force the CofS to act now to reform itself. The time has come to take a stand , to make sacrifices , to reevaluate priorities. Many of us are drown at work with many financial PTPs and other life problems. And involving yourselves in time-consuming activities besides work and family might not be what is on your minds right now. Getting out of the routine is not easy and comfortable. But I am not asking of you weeks or years of your time. I am only asking you for 7 days of your life ; just 7 days , and probably traveling away from your home those 7days.
7 days that might mean the reconnection of a family ; the deprogramming of one soul from the cult. How much sacrifice is worth the happiness of a family that have been brought together again ? How much sacrifice is worth to know that , while you are celebrating your next Christmas with your love ones , a family that had been separated is finally celebrating it together just as you are ? If being totally broke means that I helped others regain happiness again, then I happily accept bankruptcy . If getting harassed and back PRed translate into others having woke up from the grip of a cult , then I happily accept that destiny .For there is no greatest happiness in life that helping your fellow beings to have theirs as well.
I only ask you 7 days , that’s all , and traveling where you are needed those 7 days. I’ll see what I can do to find affordable lodgings, and food for everyone. I’ll handle all the logistics of it all, including coordination with the applicable government agencies including the police , so that we can be distraction free and protected in this massive protest that I want to coordinate . I’ll coordinate transportation from the hotels to the protest places and back. I’ll find bulk discount prices. I’ll do everything I can to make it as affordable as possible, and as comfortable as possible for you all.
Many great social changes were brought about by massive non-violent protests. From Gandhi to Dr. King , they both achieved many victories with just being there pacifically protesting. Just 5 years ago millions of Egyptians showed the world what a common coordinated purpose and courage can achieve for a whole country in the “2011 Egyptian Revolution”. A suppressive regime was defeated in a matter of a few weeks because others had the courage, determination, and the willingness to make sacrifices in the name of Freedom.
Many reforms in the Rights of LGBT sector were brought about by massive protests like the one in front of the American Psychiatric Association where Homosexuality was eliminated as a mental disorder from the book in 1974. Now that sector has gained rights at legally getting married at many parts of the world , and thus defending the right to be legally protected as a family unit , including health care and economic rights. Many, many battles were won in courts, but the most important ones were won in the Public Relations arena through the use of coordinated massive protests. It were those protests that forced courts and governments to act and reform themselves.
And then we have many more examples of the incredible changes that a coordinated effort based on prosurvival purposes for the common good is capable of bringing about. Here are some of them taken out of a website on “Non Violence Protests” :
1. 1905-1906 — In Russia, peasants, workers, students, and the intelligentsia engaged in major strikes and other forms of nonviolent action, forcing the Czar to accept the creation of an elected legislature.
2. 1913-1919 — Nonviolent demonstrations for woman’s suffrage in the United States led to the passage and ratification of the Constitutional amendment guaranteeing women the right to vote.
3. 1920 — An attempted coup d’etat, led by Wolfgang Kapp against the Weimar Republic of Germany failed when the population went on a general strike, refusing to give its consent and cooperation to the new government.
4. 1955-1968 — Using a variety of nonviolent methods, including bus boycotts, economic boycotts, massive demonstrations, marches, sit-ins, and freedom rides, the U.S. civil rights movement won passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
5. 1986 — The Philippines “people power” movement brought down the oppressive Marcos dictatorship. This one, you must read about ; it is VERY inspirational indeed :
http://www.superconsciousness.com/topics/society/people-power-revolution-philippines
And these brave Philippines did it again in 2001 :
6. 2001 — The “People Power Two” campaign, ousts Filipino President Estrada in early 2001.
7. 2004-05 — The Ukranian people take back their democracy with the Orange revolution.
There is a a lot of good information and resources on the uses of non violent protests on a website created by Dr. Michael Nagler , called , “Metta Center for Nonviolence” :
http://mettacenter.org/
You can learn from him in this video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDeesTDEKk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Do not underestimate the power of non violent coordinated massive protests in bringing about great social changes.
As part of this strategy, and actually BEFORE it , I planned to file a formal complaint against the CofS on the UN’s Commission of Human Rights now called the “Human Rights Council” :
“The Human Rights Council is an inter-governmental body within the United Nations system responsible for strengthening the promotion and protection of human rights around the globe and for addressing situations of human rights violations and make recommendations on them. It has the ability to discuss all thematic human rights issues and situations that require its attention throughout the year. It meets at the UN Office at Geneva.”
The Human Rights Council has a “Complaint Procedure” for those whose Human Rights has been violated either by the government (or any of its agencies) or by individuals.
“On 18 June 2007, the Human Rights Council adopted resolution 5/1entitled ‘Institution-Building of the United Nations Human Rights Council’ by which a new complaint procedure was established to address consistent patterns of gross and reliably attested violations of all human rights and all fundamental freedoms occurring in any part of the world and under any circumstances.”
“The complaint procedure addresses communications submitted by individuals, groups, or non-governmental organizations that claim to be victims of human rights violations or that have direct, reliable knowledge of such violations.”
Now, there are some criteria for a communication (complaint) to be accepted for examination in the first place . I have studied that criteria in detail and we meet ALL of them. Anyone interested can look directly at the Human Rights Council’s website here :
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/ComplaintProcedure/Pages/HRCComplaintProcedureIndex.aspx
Any individual, such as myself, can file a complaint in behalf of another or others, which is what I intent to do. Now, for this to work at all, I need hundreds (yes, you heard me well) of sworn affidavits from those whose Human Rights have been violated by the CofS, including all the possible evidence at hand. The complaint itself can’t exceed the 8-10 pages, but many documents are allowed as attachments and evidence which is where all those sworn affidavits come into play. I can’t go there with 30-50 affidavits even if only one is important enough (which IS to me) to protect the rights of that person. For they to take me seriously enough, and for me to be able to exert enough pressure on them to accept my communication for examination, I need (more , would like) no less than 200 but preferably as close to 500 as it can get. And from EVERY country, not just the USA.
This means that most of you will have to let go of any feeling of being harassed or attacked by the CofS, and be 100% willing to put up a fight. If I am, and I don’t have any close friends nor any family inside the CofS , and even have a bad past to serve as the perfect target to attack , then I expect no less from any of you. Gee , I am not even SP declared. I have never been personally hurt by the CofS to amount to anything [ not this life-time , :-))) ]. I am a lonely man who like to keep to himself. I don’t like crowds nor any publicity. So why on hell would I want to do something almost suicidal ? Simple ; because I CARE ENOUGH.
If I have enough support this time – as opposed to the first time I mentioned this in this blog months ago which got 3 criticisms (one for the already gone John Locke , one from dear Espiando but it seems he likes me now ; I hope , and another one) , and 3 supports ; Mike Rinder , Mark Marco , and my dear Ann – then I’ll play. If not , I guess that I would have to wait for you guys and gals to be ready. I am a VERY patient man.
There is absolutely no reason why we can’t have at least 5,000 protesters ; no reason at all, and I want no less than that. The list of Scientologists who left the CofS and publicly spoke against them is now around 2,650 more or less. We have more Scientologists (KSW followers and Ex(es) ) out-here than inside the CofS. We have many, many Never-ins that I know support this cause. I want them all. I want all those freedom fighters enlisted ; ALL of them, I don’t care if they are no longer Scientologists , if they love it or hate it , or are indifferent to it. I don’t care. I just want them all.
This fight is not about the workability or lack thereof of Scientology. This fight isn’t about if LRH was a good man or just a con artist. This fight isn’t about “Saving the Tech” but NEITHER about destroying it. This fight isn’t about putting DM behind bars. This fight isn’t about vengeance or hate. This isn’t about destruction but only about creation. This fight has only ONE purpose in mind : THE PROTECTION OF THE FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS with the following valuable final products :
1. A Church that has ceased to use any methods to attack its critics and dissenters. They can talk about their disagreements with us, of course, and we must be willing to accept criticism. The Freedom of Speech right works both ways ; it is a 2 flow manifestation.
2. A Church that has publicly (even if only to its members) cancelled the Disconnection practice.
3. A Church that has cancelled any and every disconnection order that it has ever issued.
4. A Church that has handled to reunite all those disconnected families allowing them to FREELY talk about anything w/out any interference or attacks of any kind neither for the parishioner nor for his family member outside the CofS.
5. A Church that will allow others to freely practice Scientology outside their control should any parishioner wish to , even if they strongly advice against it and attempt (w/out force, ethics, or harassment) to convince them to do otherwise.
Impossible goals ? So was the abolition of slavery, the equal rights for all genders and races, the LGTB rights, etc, etc. Only this time, our goals are more easier to achieve than those mentioned ; much, much easier, IF , and only IF we achieve massive participation and agreed upon goals. I can not force you to do this, but I can implore you to give me your hand on this. I need 5,000 people and 200-500 sworn affidavits, 7 days of your life and your willingness to be away from home those 7 days. I’ll take care of the rest of the details with the help of volunteers. Is that so much to ask to reunite those hundreds souls that have been driven apart, and suffer daily the loss of a love one ? I hope your answer be “NO”.
Anyone agreeing to this just send me a short email to :
thetaclear68@yahoo.com
I am Peter Torres.
UTRs with families still in, stay off the email lines for right now. Use instead an email address that you opened with another name and no personal details, and from a computer NOT your own. Do not use yours. I don’t want more families separated. I rather have you off this fight , but the decision is entirely yours. Each of you are very much welcome.
KSW followers ; I seek no destruction. I am against LRH, yes, and I am against many things form Scn. But I fully grant you the right to practice your religion w/out my undue influence. These strategies are about the goals mentioned above, and about nothing else. In this fight we should be friends as we share a common
goal. I can not promise you that I will stop alerting others about the inherent destructiveness of many parts of the Scientology’s scriptures , and about what I feel were destructive intentions from LRH. But I do promise you, that these 2 strategies are NOT about that. This is only about Human Rights. So you all are very much invited and welcome to join the fight. I expect your full participation.
Obviously, these strategies has many details that I am not discussing right now, like the use of lawyers as observers video taping everything ; the participation of the Media , the participation of other Human Rights activists ; a special song that I am composing (just the letter, I am no musician) to be played and sang by volunteers ; several key well-known speakers (I am a lousy one) ; etc, etc.
But the first step of this program is to ascertain first how much agreement of participation do I have at all. That is step ONE (Target one) of the program ; a Conditional Target for those of you familiar with the Admin Tech. Once I ascertain that , then I can start working on the rest of the Program steps. I like to work with prediction ; that’s how I handle life. I don’t deal in uncertainties. So just e-mail me with a very short note if you are in. That’s all it takes. Do it from any email account you want (a protected one) if you feel uneasy ; do not use your name if you don’t want to at this point. Just tell me whether or not I have your agreement to participate.
I’ll leave you now with a very inspirational quote from Dr. Martin Luther King :
“Me must accept finite disappointment but never lose infinite hope”.
Ok then, I have written enough for one night. Now let’s see the responses.
Best regards,
Peter Torres
Peter,
I am in! Tell me when this will happen and where you need me most. Thanks for coordinating this big movement. My email is: cindyplahuta@msn.com
Thanks Cindy ,
I wrote you an e-mail. Let’s wait first to see how much response from others I have on this. Unfortunately , w/out ample participation and full willingness to come forward this won’t even get to second base. I’ll keep you posted of any development. Take care.
Best regards ,
Peter
Theta Clear,
Thanks for saying what you said. You are correct.
I want to go further and say, that LRH and scn are such an enigma, such a bunch of contradictions, that I doubt that anyone will ever figure out why?
I also don’t think there is any one who knows everything there is to know about scn and Hubbard, because there was so many things going on in different orgs and other places around the planet at the same time.
There is also so much going on behind the scenes too. Helen O’Brian was one of the first people to expose some of the truth in “Dianetics in Limbo”.
Hubbard and scn is probably the biggest, most complex, most enigmatic, most contradictory, and multi sided story in the history of the earth.
Hubbard was right, when he said “Foolishly perhaps, but determined none the less, I have high hopes of smashing my name into history so violently that it will take a legendary form even if all the books are destroyed.
That being said, I want to say that, mixed in with all the corruption, all the BS, all the insanity, there is much useful data.
I have searched everywhere high and low and there is no other body of data on earth that has anything close for resolving the problems of the mind and spirit, that scn has. So any one doing any worthwhile commenting on the subject has to be honest and objective. And to do that with scn is a huge task.
I actually hypothesize that some entity was channeling that useful data via Hubbard. And I don’t feel good about giving Hubbard any credit at all, except for being a via. There are a few hints of that throughout scn.
I operate on the data, that every datum has to be evaluated on it’s own merits and that any datum is only as good as the number of problems it solves. Use that data intelligently and you can glean a lot of good data from scn. Data that you will not find anywhere else on earth. It is the only data that has the ability or potential to “save” a person. When it comes to “saving”,…… what does a person actually want to get saved from? A person only wants to get saved from the problems of the mind and the spirit. In principle scn contains that data.
That data has to be gleaned from scn and build a better bridge.
If you can’t build a better bridge you flunked scn.
If you can’t realize that the existing bridge in principle is a great idea, but it is full of bad planks, and missing planks, false and limiting data, BS data, and booby traps, insanity, and that the products of the bridge are generally still fuck ups, and flaunt KSW, then you are pretty low on theta units.
It means that you cannot associate or differentiate properly. That is def 4 of insanity in the tech dictionary. And it is a good definition.
Either way, if you condemn scn lock stock and barrel, or argue to defend it lock stock and barrel, that is argue to KSW, argue to defend and promote standard tech, or think that everything that LRH said was gospel, you are pretty low on theta units.
No one is guilty of breach of contract, or hypocrisy, or heresy, or blasphemy, if they disagree with criminal acts, or false and limiting data, or call a spade a spade.
Also, consent cannot be coerced.
Dio
So those of us who believe that man is not a spiritual being and that Scientology is a complete waste of time, money, trees, and blank CDs (not to mention actively and passively harmful) are insane? How wonderfully insulting.
We Anons have a term for people like you, Dio, but I can’t use it because if I do, Mike will shit-can this immediately. Ditto if I try to be insulting in return. But you keep believing your Bronze-Age book of fairy tales and your Silver Age third-rate hack science-fiction writer if it comforts you in some way. Just don’t push it on us, because some of us push back.
Thanks, Espiando. You said it better than I could have.
I pushed back once. But I hurt my back & never did it again…
Thanks Dio for your post, You saved me a lot of writing. I too believe that LRH channeled the data and could type fast enough to keep up with the rate of live streaming in the process. Hubbard didn’t have to plagiarize because he tapped into the theta band just like a million other holy men have been doing for many thousands and thousands of years. The tech saved me from eventual ruin so I’m not bitching,”moreover” (I stole that word from the tiny ass hole) I have achieved some great abilities that make me a saner and more valuable individual to the human race. As an aside I’m not compelled to personally insult others, I even grant some beingness to people I don’t like, so thanks Cock On a Box for causing the early death of my wife because she was trying to help the church by doing the right thing. He couldn’t have done it without a little help from some rabid management suffering from Stockholm syndrome. DM remember “Karma”.
You know, I didn’t do better because of scn. I was doing better, at least financially, before I started scn.
So for twenty years I lived a broke and unhappy life. It was only after I left that I immediately had this surge of new business, my income went up; and I started to wake up happy in the mornings. It’s ongoing.
Living a normal life as an ordinary person again is special. And I trust people again.
Ron, I have no recollection of Hubbard attributing his knowledge to the tapping of a “theta band”. He attributed his knowledge to himself as “Source”. He did acknowledge help from a few others like Freud and the Buddha but he claimed he had surpassed them. No mention of a “theta band” as far as I know.
Other “holy men” throughout the ages who also, according to you, tapped into that THETA BAND, offered radically differing cosmologies from what Hubbard offered. For instance, space travel, evil spirits clinging to you or the importance of remembering past lives are not central themes in the teachings of the Buddha, Jesus, or anybody else renowned for having holy knowledge. Also, nobody else ever suggested individual spirit-souls created the universe they reside in as a sort of group effort. The list goes on.
The “theta band” is your invention but if you want to offer it as a valid possibility there are some kinks that need to be worked out theory-wise. Same with Hubbard’s cosmology. Both look attractive from a lovely distance like a mirage but they don’t hold any water upon close inspection.
And even if he did, does anyone actually still believe anything he said? It’s his word against “ours”. He did no research. He was anything but “OT”. The only thing I can think of that he reached was for the money and his pills.
Hi Dawn, Good post! May I add two more items? His Kools and his pen…Love,Ann.
Ron Dolittle,
Thanks for your reply.
I was never a member of the cos.
Very long story short, I was in the cos for only a days before getting declared, basically for asking them, if scn was so good why they were all still coo coo after all these yrs?
And when I was asked what I thought of DM after being showed a video of him, I said I think there is something wrong with him. That did not go over well. That was back in 97.
Again much longer story short, I read dianetics and got a dianetics demo, and got a good release. Therefore I did see value in the dianetics and a few months later, learned about the fz and acquired all the books and got auditing in the fz.
I read all the books and most more than once.
Dianetics and scn saved my life more than once.
I am much better now that I was before I got into dianetics and scn.
So my viewpoint is based on experience and good results, not beliefs like Espiendo.
A belief is a confession of ignorance.
I am sure I would not be alive if it were not for the good data in dianetics and scn.
I am able to see and realize that there is a right way and a wrong way to do almost everything. And many shades of grey in between.
I am sane enough and intelligent enough to evaluate and differentiate data,
and align it in order of significance and improve it where necessary.
Espiando evidently isn’t.
I am looking for a co auditor and if you are interested, please email me at:
diogeneseii at yahoo.ca
Dio
PS: I like your use of the phrase; “Stockholm syndrome”. That describes the condition succinctly. Better than any other I have heard.
It redefines or expands the definition, but it is certainly appropriate.
I never thought of using the phrase.
Kool aid drinkers is similar.
I now see the connection or similarity between the two phrases.
TC–would you mind repeating what your strategy was to “I discussed a possible solution to all this madness,…”? I missed it but am interested in hearing what you think could be done.
thanks
Thank you for putting this all in one place. Very illuminating.
Laurisse Stuckenbrock should be held accountable for all that she has seen and likely covered up.
No one would want her job (likely).
What’s her story?
Where is she from?
There were PLENTY of people from other countries working under a visa unethically (according to the ethics of following the actual law of the land – not the insane translation of ethical by scientology).
I wish it would hurry up and implode then explode – I wish that all of the people that were actually hurt get compensated for it. I wish that all of the people having money held hostage would be given it back.
god how i love that phrase: Blind Faith, two words that say it all.
I know that can be an unsettling thing, to ponder,
that faith is blind,
that the true innate quality of faith is that it is willfully not demanding proof.
I can not claim to possess a settled mind, certainly wouldn’t brag about it,
but let me repeat, despite the embarrassing absence of authority here,
God is good.
God is.
Scientology works, and all it requires is faith and a willingness to believe in a single man.
The originator.
The self-proclaimed Source.
It that isn’t enough to reject him right there, go ahead and look him up, that actual guy.
There’s a book or two.
After The Bare-Faced Messiah there isn’t too much to talk about, but I just watched Lawrence Wright, talking in Alex Gibney’s movie and let me tell you this, THAT was a very satisfying and settling experience. I don’t wanna get mushy here but I almost cried, and I’ve seen the movie before, for crissakes, I was so happy just to listen to a lucid person make sense about being honest , or not. There’s been such a long absence of that, reason, despite the ceaseless chatter, people talking in a simultaneous void, a hidden silence, missing cog in the continuum.
A study of the real person, the first wife to L. Ron Hubbard, would be a study of the real person Himself.
Please do check that out, if you should be so blessed as to possess a particle of doubt.
Reason,
and a walk in the woods is about all I need, just give me truth and reason. See you tomorrow
(metaphorically)
See you tomorrow, keep talking and
Thank God.
Barefaced Messiah did it for me, too. Just his life before he decided on a “religion” to make money, was immoral, cruel and criminal. He stole from people who trusted him. He beat his wives. Yes, just knowing how he treated Polly should have been enough said!
Excellent article, correspondent! This should be one of the blue links on the right side of Mike’s blog. Thanks for sharing this with the world.
Excellent “tip of the iceberg”! Thank you for posting.
The only thing that I would add is that “for every policy there is an equal and opposite LRH advice” – also known as the “hidden data line” that supposedly doesn’t exist but everyone who has been in the Sea Org knows that it does.
Hi nomnom, Oh yes, you are spot on. Always right next to me in Sea Org, that ” hidden ” Hidden Data Line.Love, Ann
Thanks Ann.
And the fact that there are two contradictory LRH writings allows Miscavige/RTC to have absolute power since he gets to say which one is “Standard Scientology” at any particular moment.
Hi nomnom, Thank you! My old brain! Yes you filled in a gap there for me nicely! Laughter, as I sure had contradictory policies of Ethics & auditing run on me a lot! Look forward to your posts.Love, Ann
The compilation is an excellent reference.
Oh my…
It’s good to see such a succinct reference made for this most unsavoury aspect of organised scientology. It appears to have an instantly recognised solution of “get rid of miscavige” and handle the fallout from there – I have come to recognise that’s too simplistic. There are inherent flaws in that system, especially policy interpretation and the fact some policy was ever written in the first place. There is a distinct shortage of any common sense in scientology organisations. But miscavige and his thugs brought to justice would be a wonderful thing.
I’ve fought this crap for too long & am sick of it, since ’96 I was dumped by good friends and my org fought a bitter battle with me because I rejected the out-tech, but I knew about it since the late 80s. Two family members from 2002 turned into two of the biggest assholes I’ve ever known after I loaned (gave) them money so they could get accoms on the Freewinds. Haven’t spoken to ’em since except for a couple of arguments, yet their effect ripples through two entire families in two countries – they are not sane people and refuse all communication regarding scientology with anyone from outside their “agreement” group. The rest of the family are actually scared of them and dare not disagree with them on a range of subjects, they are self professed experts on many things.
I still feel the stigma of being “known as a scientologist” by life long friends who were never in and they give me a wide berth sometimes – that really sux!
Thanks Clearlypissedoff and Mike, good luck dealing with this type of human tragedy!
(Scientology, the way it is applied to groups actually enhances the problems of man, it doesn’t solve them, no matter what they say or is written in their texts).
Hi Mike, I cannot thank you and that special correspondent enough for the piece today. Very enlightening for me and I will archive it so I can take time reading.Love, Ann.
Just thought of my first time lying in scn. My mother didn’t like scn and how it was changing me. Of course I mentioned it and was told by ethics to handle her. Well, I just lied from there and never brought it up or lied that all was well. Meanwhile our relationship was ever strained. The lies and withholds continued for years, and regrets after she had gone, of never telling my mother the truth, even after I left. However I didn’t disconnect but our relationship was spoiled.
I understand. All my relationships with my family deteriorated once I became a scientologist. I’m lucky now though because they know I’m out and I’ve told them why, in bits and pieces. I’m very close to them all now, thanks to getting out.
Funnily enough, none of them asked, “What took you so long? We’ve known it was a scam all along.” They may have thought it but no one said it.
Hi Dawn, Very happy for you that you are out and close to your family. Yeah! In my case when I joined Sea Org my family 3 younger sibs my Mom already was showing signs of Alzheimer’s @ a very young age so she had no clue about much,my Dad was married to his financial world and did not care back then what I did,plus my late parents got divorced all during 74 when I went in.My siblings have never wanted me in their lives after 74. In 80 when I made the effort to re-connect and did I ever,sent bday & Xmas $ to my nieces & nephews each year til they turned 18.etc.But all is for naught. The fact that I went to Cali where ironically 2 of my sisters have lived for yrs,was unforgivable to them and cos even worse.So in a different sense my family walked away from me because of cos.I am ok now because I know I walk my own path and am responsible for my actions.But cos really threw out that all was love within it’s walls,yet the actions of the cult speak different volumes.Love,Ann.
Thanks Dawn. I too have told all relatives left and they also didn’t make it a big deal. Some lost years of love lost, and we do continue on and all is well as possible now. Happy New Year!
Thank you, this is in fact a a factual written account of important or historical events and, as any other past criminal organizations, it will cease to exist sooner or later.
This information could be used to narrate scientology, not as an example of compassion, care and help, but as a past organization of deception, abuse, rip off and greed.
Very Good summary Mike.
I bailed out in 2012 and knowing what I know now
I cringe at WHY I did not leave much earlier.
There is no question that David Miscavige will fall on his own sword.
Mmmmm….Ok, how about him falling on his sword…..from 10′ up?
Just sayin’
I have seen plenty and my guess is that the forces of Nature
will catch up with David Miscavige.
The forces of nature vs. the Darth Vader (dm).
Hi Jose Chung, So glad from my heart that you left in 2012! So glad you post here.Love, Ann
Our lives will be changed forever, due to Scientology’s Disconnection policy. It has been 4 1/2 years since my daughter, Kara Landry and Step daughter, Cara Plahuta disconnected from my husband and I. Another Holiday season without them was tough. So much has happened in our family, that once missed, will never happen again. They have missed so much and been missed so much.
My family has been ripped apart by “The Church”. For what, one persons sick pleasure???? But I have Great Expectations for this year.
Thanks for your compilation of the horrors of the real meaning of Scientology.
Dear Cindy , I am really sorry for your family. I strongly feel that this nightmare will soon end in less than two years. I’ll be proposing something as a reply to dear Clearlypissedoff some time tonight or tomorrow as it is a little long and I am VERY slow on my cell phone keyboard. I think that a team effort is needed to end this thing. The solution is very much under our hands, but we must act now. I’ll explain later on.
Best regards,
Peter
I look forward to your proposal. There are many families that have been separated by disconnection. A solution would be great!
I’m very curious.
Yes. I understand completely Cindy. It’s been over two years since my disconnected from me and it doesn’t get easier. Your whole post is a big, “ditto.”
I too am curious about Theta Clear’s ideas.
An amazing read. When will these abuses end? In 2016, because something is being done about it.
Could not stop reading this. Thank you to the guy who compiled it and Mike I am so glad you are alive. Anyone who has not already done so can go to Steve Hall’s blog, Scientology-cult.com and sign his anti-disconnection list. I checked this week and I don’t think it’s over 500 yet—-Thank you, Jill
Guy or Gal
Thank you very much Mike, for editing this document and posting it.
I would like to make the comment that this was assembled with the viewpoint of having a one-stop-shop for someone who still believes in the tech and believes in LRH, to view the atrocities of SCN. From here, one could click on the various other excellent websites that I referenced and study the insanity in further detail. It may seem pro-LRH and pro-LRH tech, but that was done intentionally, for the desired public. It would be a first step for a doubtful, person that is still in.
And to further clarify, I am not pro-LRH or pro SCN tech.
Thanks for the clarification , Clearlypissedoff ; my apologies for having assumed things so hurriedly. You did good. Those compilations of disconnection stories help rekindle courage in others , and a willingness to look a little further ; thanks.
Peter
Not a problem TC and thank you. Now if it could help free a few people, I would be happy.
You are most welcome, dear Clearlypissedoff ; and I won’t help to free a “few” , I’ll free hundreds , and we’ll do it together.
Peter
I sincerely look forward to that Theta Clear! It has to be done!
I agree, I think in time it will reach many but honestly, if it were to only reach one, allowing one family to be “whole” again then your effort is not in vane.
Here is a prayer to start the new year, “For those who have never been in, keep them out, for those who are in, help them out, for those who were in and found their way out, help them carry on and find peace.”
Hi Mat Pesch, Thank you for your beautiful prayer. Love, Ann
Glad you liked it!
Good one Mat.
Amen
to add to Matt’s prayer: “and for those who have loved ones in, get them out.” Fast. And then triage to handle the wounded and spiritually raped victims.
Cindy,
Re: “and for those who have loved ones in, get them out.”
Yes, there a couple of people in the cos that I know that I have been thinking about writing a letter to, to wake them up and get them out.
I would like if you or someone can write up and post a good effective form letter that anyone can use to send it to the people they know.
Dio
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9PiN3u0VSFA
I think Tommy Davis had the definitive word on disconnection
“There’s no such thing as disconnection as you’re stating it.” Tommy (The Weasel) Davis
UNBELIEVABLE!
Wow!! Incredible compilation. Thanks for sharing!
Isn’t the policy supposed to be “handle, then disconnect” ?
Handle, or if not possible, disconnect.
PTS: get a positive response and then bail
This needs to be given out to any Scientologist you think there’s a chance in hell they’ll read it! Very Well Done to clearlypissedoff! I am thinking about how I can legally get this into the hands of Scientologists. Probably a moot idea since they must be certifiably Bubble-Sheep to still be in.
Handle or disconnect. As sparks may fly over a dramatic disconnection or the person can’t see how he/she could disconnect (as an example familial situations) then one is persuaded to handle the situation on a gradient with light communication and looking at how he/she may have caused or escalated the estrangement themselves. Hopefully this brings the two parties together and the “PTS” situation is handled. Miscavige skips this part and goes directly to disconnection. Miscavige is a “tough guy” who does not care about the personal feelings of others. Only himself.