A Special Correspondent familiar with Santa Barbara sent this to me along with some notes about the people involved.
That’s some real bare bones contributing. The list has shrunk since the last one. Yay!
All Steve Manseau does is email stuff like invitations to poorly attended OT Committee meetings.
Sokoloff’s are down south FSM’s getting their 10%.
Tom Burton is the ED’s husband. Loren is the ED now.
Martinez’s are hopeless koolaid drinkers. As is Jan King. OT 8. For the record she’s all about telling her many Scilon friends about the latest multi-level craze. She’d get the Manseau’s in and they’d get others in. A number of people have been virtually bankrupted as a result. At least two of their MLM schemes have belly-upped. Do they get in ethics trouble? Not that I can see, judging by the fact that they’ve done it numerous times. They are the innocent victims or some crap — except they keep repeating the pattern. A lot of people who used to participate have stopped responding to any party, meeting type invitations. They have been burned before and won’t be burned again.
Laurel Sherrie sends out meaningless emails asking for stats. She’s OT VII. Was SO, a NOT’s auditor at AO. She never goes into the org.
Lisa Cullen hasn’t vacationed in years and is working herself to death. But hey she’s eternal, so no biggie right? It pains me to see her generously give her all with her pure heart. She will end up wrung out and tossed aside. She’s married to Chris Cullen who set some kind of a record at Flag trying to finish OT VII and was at Flag for dogs ages.
Nancy Dillingham got an inheritance and hands over shocking amounts — like $10,000 at donation nights. She wants to live long enough to do her OT levels even though she has big study problems.
A peek into the cherch members little piece of paradise.
This is an “org”? In Southern California, where the largest number of scientologists on earth are? Part of the “first Ideal Continent”? And in a time of either 47X or 60X expansion?
Lame.
Bonus Item
Another special correspondent sent this to me.
One of my favorite comedians of all time has created a new church. It would appear he has done his homework.
gato rojo says
I started on cherch staff when I was about 21, and was on staff (org and SO) for 33 years. I never learned much about money/finances/investing before I pretty much dropped out of civilization as we know it and went into the Kool-Aide drinking bubble. Which of course rejects most things about the world outside because Hubbard knew better about it all.
Just look at the back-asswards view of money!
I escaped years ago and for my own personal survival, once I got over the emotional effects, the trickiest thing I’ve had to deal with was figuring out what REALLY is true and false about finances. I have finally found a set of videos by a person who doesn’t talk about himself, but talks about the great minds, great thinkers, philosophers and crazy successful business people who he has met, who have mentored him and whose books he read and keeps reading. He just passes on logical information, statistics, history, and facts about dealing with money and making a good life for yourself. He is living a nice life that proves the information is worth looking into.
I can tell you….I have seen several of these other people’s statements who came earlier than Hubbard used/stolen by him and put in his own policies. This is why he didn’t want anyone to read about “other practices” because you’ll find his ideas already figured out by other smart people. I was pretty surprised at the amount of concepts and almost word for word quotes. Specifically in his green-on-white policy, Hubbard used enough good stuff to make sense and then built in extreme craziness and control factors.
And now, the only use for Money for members of the cherch is to make it somehow and then just hand it over until you are broke, in debt up to here and then just get kicked to the curb. None of the great philosophers, thinkers and businessmen I have seen discussed so far had that idea, ever. I feel like I am finally getting the “true data,” to use a cherch term.
Old Surfer Dude says
Gato rojo, I’m glad you’re out! You got your old life back! Leaving is the ultimate OT level. And the EP? Total freedom! You’re out and will never, ever be in that cult again… I celebrate your freedom with you…
I Yawnalot says
Reports on any Org sounds very much like a battlefield casualty briefing. Whichever way you look at it, it leaves you feeling somber & sad.
Michael Tilse says
Really sorry to hear that Nancy is still so supportive. I really like her and I thought she was classy. We were dating for a while. (I’m sure that made for some interesting sec checks.) I don’t know about an inheritance, but she was longtime staff at ComputerMotion (merged with Intutive Surgical later) where Duggan made his first big money. She was close to Duggan, maybe even his assistant or secretary. Maybe even she was OSAs line into Duggan’s inside info. She probably had a lot of vested stock options and made bucks when the merger happened.
Nancy, if you get this message, just wanted you to know that I hope you are well. I really tried to warn you of the mess that Scientology is when I left. And if you had anything to do with the gaslight and other crap they did, I forgive you.
LDW says
I’ve been doing a bit of reading lately about different cultures around the planet (nothing extraterrestrial yet).
The culture of the Sea Ogre, staff, FSMs, IAS registrars, self aggrandizing for bank-breaking donations, We Are The Only Ones Who Can Help etc. really is a bizarre way to live.
The Santa Barbara crew reminds me of when I was a scrawny little kid believing with all my heart and my deluded mind that I could beat the crap out of the school yard bully. A worthy goal. Never gonna happen.
Old Surfer Dude says
LDW, is it me or…are most, if not all members at the Santa Barbara Idle Morgue….what’s the word? Old? Some really old?
Mephisto says
“Hey guys, I just wanted to share a cog I recently had on why it’s taking so long to complete our fundraising . Now, hold onto your hats! Per LRH in ‘Toughness’ he says that if you’re having trouble handling one thing, you just double the size of the area. Thats the way theta works! So, what this means is that we will also be fundraising for Santa Barbara to align with command intention. Isn’t that freakin’ awesome?!!!”
Quinn Taufer in a confidential briefing to the Valley OT Committee
Old Surfer Dude says
I shared a cog once. But, it broke…
I Yawnalot says
The teeth on mine refused to bite, someone said it was a mesh issue but what would I know?
Melody says
Quinn Taufer still owes me $20. It’s been 19 years.
Wognited and Out! says
Yes – thank you Mike Rinder.
You are doing an awesome job and we have tons of people that read your blog daily.
A lot of them can’t speak on the net yet – they are still decompressing and wrapping their minds around the con.
It is painful to fully realize the extent of the scam …but – with time – one will truly be free with the truth!
Old Surfer Dude says
This blog would be a very cathartic experience for anyone leaving the cult.
Bob G says
I just have to comment on this crazy Santa Barbara Ideal Org nonsense. Here is a totally collapsed org that struggles to pay the rent, has no students, no one to audit and practically no income since Reed, Travolta, Duggan and others are no longer around to succumb to the constant begging for help, to pay the “bills.”
Contribute to an Idea Org! Give me a break! My advise, if I really cared, which I don’t, would be to set up a “Go Fund Me” account to help keep the doors open. Common sense tells me that’s what this is all about – paying the bills, and not much to do with an Ideal Org. They tried that a few years ago and it went belly up. Details here: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ideal-org-fails/
Plus “Special Correspondent’s” comments regarding people on the Contributor’s list is spot on! Perfect!
Old Surfer Dude says
So……you’re saying I shouldn’t go up to bridge in Santa Barbara? Don’t sugar coat it. I can take it…
Star Winchester says
I have read almost all the books out there telling the truth about this cult. By reading your blogs and watching the you tube about this I guess I sort of understand why people get sucked in….just really hard to understand. Wish we could say it was circling the drain but seems to be a never ending list of suckers (& evil people)
Thank you Mike!
Espiando says
Totally off-topic, but after the post and Jose’s knowing response on Santa Barbara, there’s not much I can contribute to this discussion other than a winking caveat emptor. These people are definitely caught in some kind of incestuous web of ripping each other off.
Now for the off-topic part. We all know that Piltdown Man was cited in L. Fraud’s work as a scientific fact, only to be revealed as a fake a few years after he published (and there were serious doubts at the time of publication). This has never been edited out and we have to assume that Scientologists believe Piltdown Man to be real to this day. Well, now the fakery has been scientifically proven:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37021144
Piltdown Man is “two or three humans and one organutan”. I would like the Hubbard Defense Force to explain how Hubbard can be right and “a multi-disciplinary collaboration including palaeobiologists, historians, dental experts and ancient DNA specialists” can be wrong. Or better yet, explain how both sides can be right. I need a good laugh for hump day.
(And, of course, a big welcome to Teegeeack to Dylan Surfer Dude. May he catch great waves for the rest of his life.)
Harvey says
Hey Mike! What’s the deal? I clicked on the “Click Here To Donate” button and was all set to make a HUGE donation to the Org so as to secure my eternity and get one of those great big trophies. Is this some kind of practical joke?
Old Surfer Dude says
I just wanted to thank everyone for the kind words regarding little Dylan.
Mike, I was going to send a picture of me holding little Dylan, to you, if that’s ok. If you can make it my picture, that would be wonderful!
Mike Rinder says
Of course! 🙂
T.J. says
O.S.D. so happy for you and your family! 🙂 What a wonderful event, the joy of a new life. Very best wishes and happiness to you & yours, congratulations!
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks, T.J! We’re going to be a big part of his life when the parents move closer.
Bo says
Welcome to the world Dylan. And congrats to the entire Dude family.
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks, Bo! Looking forward to teaching him how to surf!
Cece says
I must have missed the news. Congrats to you. You have won the real lottery 🙂
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks, Cece!
Mike Wynski says
Awesome news OSD!
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks, Mike! Pretty exciting times for us!
I Yawnalot says
Cheers Dude, very happy for you and yours. Splurge on all those fun times.
Old Surfer Dude says
I most certainly will!
Lost My Son (Lowie) says
Congrats OSD on your new little grandson!! What a wonderful blessing for you and your family. Being a grandparent is the best thing in the world. 🙂
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks, LMS. Appreciate your kind words. And heres to son waking up and coming home. And I’m sure everyone here feels that way. I’m looking forward to the celebration…
Gary Webb says
Congratulations Old Surfer Dude.
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks, Gary! My son’s golf pro is going to start training Dylan in golf at age three. We’ll see how he likes it.
Xenu's son says
And yes my friend inexorably the sun is now setting on the Santa Barbara bay. And the shadows of those Boots in the Sky who have washed up on the Santa Barbara shore keep getting longer.
The Dark Avenger says
As it happens, I’m in Santa Barbara right now. Great weather, great food. I’ll see if I can squeeze a visit to see what’s going on if they still have an Org at a physical addy.
Old Surfer Dude says
Bring me back a stuff Teddy Bear. I’ll give it to little Dylan.
Mephisto says
Santa Barbara Org is obviously under lots of suppression, so David Miscavige in his meticulous research of original source documents discovered this glaring alteration of a priceless piece of LRH tech which he has sent the ED to implement now, now, now.
“The supreme test of a thetan is the ability to take out the psychs.”
Let’s get er done!
Snake Thompson's Ghost says
I’d be willing to bet that there’s an above-average number of practicing psychiatrists, psychologists, psychotherapists, MFCCs, and any related occupation in beautiful and hyper-affluent Santa Barbara, California, assisting both the townsfolk and the students at UC Santa Barbara alike. “Getting in touch with my inner self” isn’t considered a funny thing to say there!
Speaking of UCSB, its big and well-funded Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences is turning out more and more B.A., M.A., and Ph.D. psylon-fiends every year, each one a blow to the CoS.
So the thetans of Santa Barbara have obviously done a really sucky job of “taking out psychs” over the years, too.
Mephisto says
Yes, I would agree Snake. From my data analysis I’ve come up with the following: THE WHY IS RON.
Old Surfer Dude says
“The why is Ron.” Truer words were never spoken, Mephisto…
Jose Chung says
Santa Barbara is a mix of ultra rich,students and fresh immigrants.with no green cards.
The org is sandwiched into this on State Street.The ghost of Reed Slatkin continues to haunt the Org.
( an Old mission style hotel.)
Reed operated an investment scam which he made millions from on
Scientology Public’s Bridge money. He had a toll free phone number hooked up to his garage with a European Dial and ringtone that a lady with a heavy European accent would answer creating the illusion
that the caller was talking to a Swiss Bank in Switzerland. It was the biggest Ponzi scheme before
Bernie Maydoff.
All of the people in the above commendation walk in these footsteps.
Good thing is there are coin operated hot showers near the beach for a few quarters you can clean up with hot water. RV parking in town at $5.00 a night. great Mexican food everywhere.but if you want to live here you have to be Crazy Rich.
Wognited and Out! says
Scientology truly is a science of selling snake oil in PT.
These Scientologist’s are prone to the MLM stuff cuz they have the indoctrination in their DNA. They can’t help it. It feels “normal” and they constantly bamboozle and hornswoggle each other and themselves to be right.
How right will these goons be?
DEAD right!
hgc10 says
Why would anyone think that a Scientologist would get into trouble for running MLM scams on other Scientologists. Of course they won’t. There’s nothing more Scientological than an MLM scam. It’s everything that Hubbard was building toward.
You know, in the years following the fall of the Hoxia regime in Albania, that small country was beset by endless pyramid schemes. I think a majority of the population was ultimately ensnared. It occurs to me that the there was a missed opportunity for Miscavige to build Ideal Orgs in Albania and really for real create the first cleared country. Too bad.
Old Surfer Dude says
I may be crazy…but I’m not rich…
Simi Valley says
I think Laurel Sherrie’s main interest is her artwork.
http://laurelsherrie.com/
Mike Wynski says
As long as even the dessicated husks of Orgs remain there will be fund-raising (fleecing).
If Davie dropped dead today one of the El Con trained Oat Teas (like a Marc Y.) would step into his shoes and continue trying to spread the Founder’s evil across the planet.
Gimpy says
This could be a cut and paste of the backgrounds to the diehards at any local org. The person with the inheritance really should know better, you can bet her name is on every reg list out there – ideal org, ias, flag, etc, etc. You make the mistake of paying once and they never leave you alone, be tough from the start and you are very much bottom of the contacts list.
Newcomer says
And if you taper off on the size or frequency of your fleece donations, the threat of a sec check should certainly restore the flow.
Rick Mycroft says
I’m not saying that they’d actually bump someone off, but it might be worth checking the death times of people that stood between regs and a fat inheritance to see if there was a small spike Wednesday night-Thursday morning.
thegman77 says
Interesting that the NZ link refers to “whaleoil”. A dig at Duggan? (That question truly rolls off the tongue lightly! LOL)
SILVIA says
Never ceases to amaze me the reality in which Orgs find themselves.
And you correctly ask if some of them will end in ethics trouble for bankrupting others?
No, why should they, after all they are just following the example of their ecclesiastical leader miscavige who is a master of deception and, somehow able to get away with other frauds and crimes.
Brett Stormont says
Thanx much for you hard work exposing this dangerous and evil cult.i know it can be thankless,and sometimes you might wonder if anyone is listening.well,I am,and I do my best to spread the word! Thanx again mike!
Mike Rinder says
Always nice to hear. Thanks.
Old Surfer Dude says
My wife just sent you the pic…
Mike Rinder says
Just saw it! Gorgeous. Thank you. So happy for you all.
Old Surfer Dude says
And Karen & I for you! Your wonderful wife and your two boys! At some point I am coming out there. Karen & I want to get back to Disney World. So, of course, we’ll be knocking on your door. If you don’t answer, we’ll pitch a tent!
Mike Rinder says
Looking forward to seeing you!
Cindy says
Congrats to Old Surfer Dude! Grandbabies are a blessing.
Brian says
Just to add to the accolade Mike; I consider your site, you, the most balanced and drama-less site.
You are a benevolent host, your fairness and tolerance is apparent, at least to me.
Thank you for your time and efforts.
Best,
Brian
WhatWhenAll Who says
I couldn’t agree more with the above. I so appreciate your total graciousness in addressing what your guests have to say and making sure all feel safe to say what they want to say without fear of bullies coming at them. You’re a class act, Mike Rinder.
WhatWall says
Ditto. Mike’s site is the best for decompressing scientologists. The lack of drama is much appreciated.