I really don’t profess to understand the very strange bedfellows that are scientology and the Nation of Islam.
I wonder if Farrakhan has noticed that apart from Crooked Alfreddie Johnson, scientology is pretty much exclusively composed of middle class white people? Which as far as I know is about as palatable to the NOI as people on food stamps are to scientologists?
A Special Correspondent sent this poster to me and I am not sure who it was distributed to or what the source of it is.
But I was curious about the possessive “saviours'” and wondered if it was a typical scientology spelling/grammar error that we see every Thursday.
But then I noticed the same odd word is on the banner behind what is clearly NOT a gathering of scientologists in the poster.
I Googled the term and found Saviours’ Day is a major NOI celebration.
And what popped up when I opened the “Saviours’ Day” page but a mention of a drill competition. The only other place I have seen anything resembling this (outside the military) is the Sea Org Day “Honor Guards.” The NOI don’t seem to go in for swords like the SO do, but they do like marching in formation and saluting.
Clearly from the poster they also like the staged shot showing everyone in attendance at their events. Though you must admit, the NOI seem to attract a LOT more butts in their seats than scientology. Scientology has NEVER had a staged shot like this one. 200 people tops for the grand shot with COB on the Freewinds Maiden Voyage Anniversary is about as big as it gets.
And clearly the NOI has stat push fever like scientology — big on setting quotas and demanding they be met.
The Google search also popped up a page hawking books from the Founder and speeches from the current leader. The only difference is that NOI charges a lot less than scientology.
I wonder if Farrakhan knows how many ethnic Jews there are in scientology? Hint — it’s a LOT. Especially in LA…
Hell, they even have “Graduations” and “Study Guides.”
And then I saw this:
They even use the same tag line: “The Future Is Ours.”
As I went through some of this stuff, I wondered if perhaps these organizations are more simpatico than I had imagined?
But at their core, each believes they are better than the other — that they are using them for their own ends and the other is none-the-wiser. The NOI thinks they can take Dianetics and leave the rest of the cray cray and that they will eventually take over the entire field and consume the subject that has been wasted by scientology. Scientology on the other hand thinks they have a foot in the door to the black community and will eventually convert them all to scientology — and meanwhile they are great for their stats.
Bound to explode like the proverbial volcano sooner or later. This is a marriage of sociopaths built on lies.
And on a microcosmic level — I wonder when Rev. Alfreddie Johnson’s future is going to be his — and his lies, rip-offs and scams are going to catch up to him. It is bound to happen sooner or later.
Quack-Xenu-BodyThetan-ology. Say no more. KSW #1 “,,,if they are going to quit let them quit fast……” Cut to the chase, and quit fast.
Have you heard of Value Creators, yet? It’s an offshoot of NOI, from what I can tell, and it’s pretty wild.
Oh hey, it’s Carrie from OhNo Ross & Carrie! 🙂 Yes, there are also the 5 percenters, the group JayZ belongs to, another offshoot of the N.O.I.
There is no shortage of offshoot hate groups, unfortunately. If only we could bring together people for good, and unity, instead of race hate, gender discrimination, etc.
An astute comparison Mike. Both organizations have a sound handle on how to manage a cult following but the NOI seems to be learning some new tricks from the best in fake PR or propaganda: the Church of Scientology.
Interesting. An earlier view, from inside the NOI is Leila Wills’ book “Farrakhan, The Movie” which I recommend.
When Farrakhan dies, the NOI will probably drop all its connections to Scientology. You don’t seriously think the rank and file will continue to do Book One without Louie driving them, do you?
Ah, the question of why NOI and scientology are nestling in together is a no-brainer to me. If one falls, the other is more threatened. These sleaze-bag leaders of firnge religions all know deep inside that they can’t hide anymore in the age of the internet.
All their dirt is being resurfaced on a daily basis, all their victims now have a voice, and all their crimes are being exposed. Like one well-known NOI member said back in the sixties, the chickens are finally coming home to roost.
Enjoy your luxuries while you can, you religious “leaders”. It is all coming to a very scary end shortly.
“fringe”
My question is: how much isThe Honorable Louis Farrakhan raking off for each Nation Of Islam Dianetic Auditor made?
Yes, it is puzzling. Why would the Church of Scientology and Nation of Islam join in any way? Often when something seems so surprising, the answer is money. In some way they are able to profit off each other. Tony Ortega has a couple of articles about multi-million dollar Medi-care scams involving the N.O.I. and CofS, perhaps that’s why. Here is a link to one of his articles: http://tonyortega.org/2015/12/17/felony-raps-for-scientologists-running-la-rehab-scam-with-corrupt-educators/
If anyone would like to understand the Nation of Islam (Black Muslims) better, the Southern Poverty Law Center has a fairly comprehensive article:
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam
The N.O.I. is not recognized by mainstream Muslims. They are a racial separatist movement, their members are only Black, it’s closed to all others, and their literature refers to white people as ‘devils’ and Jews as ‘subhuman’. So yes, it is strange, very strange that the NOI would join the CofS. But the NOI has had alliances with other separatists groups in the past, including the KKK, solely because of their goal of racial separatism. As far of CofS, money through various scams, and counting NOI members as Scientologists?
T.J., good post. Assuredly this relationship is quid pro quo, straight up and simple. Co$ has lots of money, horrible PR and no people. Given that their parishioners are largely urban, striving, employed and unemployed working class African Americans, its unlikely that NOI has any real money. And its not a stretch to conceive of Farrakhan having negotiated a personal rake off for himself. He is, after all, “wearing the hat” of a Scientology FSM. Obviously, he’s not getting FSM commission checks directly and I’m not a finance person so I couldn’t speculate on the method, but I have no doubt that Farrakhan has a personal vested monetary interest in obtaining “selectees” for the cult.
Miscavige would do a deal like this with any group, I think, for “bodies in the shop” in the “correct order of magnitude”. One has to laugh.
I could be mistaken, but the last time I checked, in order to claim the tax exemption as a religion, the members have to be identified solely as scientologists. They can’t be Muslim/scientologist. They have to be one or the other. I would imagine that would pose a dilemma of sorts if the NOI are asked to identify as such.
I agree. I think this can be boiled down to: follow the money. However odd the alliance and this one is certainly extremely odd. Both sides are profiting, no matter how it breaks down.
Dear Aquamarine, My thought exactly. Someone is getting the FSM 10% for all those services paid for and started. There’s some FSM kickbacks going on, wish there were a way to follow the money on all these services starts resulting in someone getting their FSM 10%s.
But even more astounding to me, is what is NOI thinking? They inevitably will run into their past lives coming soon! Are they planning to stick with their this lifetime engrams and prenatal engrams only? Don’t they know they are going to be running into their past-lives engrams shortly?
Alfreddie has likely run into past lives engrams already.
What the heck are these men and women thinking?
They are launching into past-lives and the Xenu engram and into “body-thetans”, they must know this is all coming.
Hubbard’s Scientology reasons for any person’s “case” problems only gets wierder than prenatal engrams, it goes next into past-lives engram, and then they will learn the Xenu engram and then learn they are infested with “body-thetans” and need OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 to rid themselves of their body-thetans.
Do they even know this? Someone has to simply tell these people what’s in store for them.
Aquamarine, thank you for the acknowledgement. 🙂 A simple thing like saying ‘good post’ is appreciated, and I am glad to know that someone found one of my posts worthwhile or at least I know that what I’ve said is being read by someone. I read here without commenting too much these days, if I don’t feel like I have anything interesting to add to the conversation, but this reminds me that I should also let people know when I find their posts enlightening.
This particular topic usually brings me to comment, as it deals with one of the groups that show little regard for human rights and seek to exclude and discriminate against people based on factors such as skin color or ethnicity. I am for unity and equal rights for all, for promoting peace, equality, and treating each other with kindness, care, love. We don’t really see that coming from the N.O.I.
Another similarity between the N.O.I. and C of S is that their main core body of membership, are made up mostly of ordinary people with average incomes, who don’t have tons of money to spare, yet give more than they can afford to promote what they think is the ‘right way’ despite how it deprives their families of everyday comforts or buying new cars, homes, etc.
So there is a large proportion of members of both groups who give up a lot, and live financially poorly, while the leader(s), those at the top, squander millions and live in wasteful luxury. The Church of Scientology has a massive amount of cash, yet constantly ‘reg’ their members for more money, while Miscavige tries to buy a Clearwater Florida building valued at 4.5 million for 15 million, and N.O.I.’s Farrakhan has accumulated multi-millions, some from businesses, such as cosmetics and hair products sold to people of color, some from various scams (medi-care fraud and monies from social betterment programs that rake in cash yet do nothing) and he has received millions in donations from Libya over the past 25 years. This is well documented if one cares to research.
Yet in both groups, the members live frugally and give way too much of their meager incomes to their Church or Group. The FLDS is the same, the members starve and cannot afford to feed and clothe their kids, their church owns their homes and can remove them at whim for no cause leaving them destitute, while Warren Jeffs callously wastes millions, ditto for Jehovah’s witnesses who are mandated to live poorly, drive older cars, have few possessions, not pursue higher education or well-paying jobs, while their Watchtower Society runs an Empire of businesses and the top dogs live much better than the main body of members. It was the same for the Shree Rajneesh cult, where the leader owned millions in property and dozens of luxury automobiles, while his followers lived in communal shacks, subsisted on a bowl of rice a day and spent their time working and fund raising, same thing for the moonies cult, hari krishnas, etc, etc. This sounds similar to the Sea Org dormitories, the members rice and beans meals, long days of hard work, and few amenities, while Miscavige has luxury living quarters, pricey vehicles, private planes, expensive tailored clothing and shoes and gourmet meals daily.
This seems to be a benchmark of abusive groups. Those in power have everything, much more than they possibly need, while the mass of members live with less and give more than they should.
Hello freedom of thought, let’s celebrate our ability to think clearly for ourselves! Those who are now out of an abusive group – be thankful you woke up to what was going on, and those who care, please continue to educate and work towards helping those who cannot yet see clearly.
T.J., you’re most welcome. I think we all like being acknowledged 🙂
Understood and agreed on all you’ve said, especially, “…let’s celebrate our ability to think clearly for ourselves!”
Truthfully, not a day goes by that in some form or another I don’t give thanks for that!
Pssst! Here’s some juicy gossip, nothing I can verify, BUT… a while back, someone UTR, a public in one of the Ideal Morgues told me there was “policy” in that org to NOT reg NOI people “as the rest of us are”.
Now, the NOI people in that org don’t have money, this person told me.
Then again, neither do the other Scientologists! Many of them are just as broke, struggling, unemployed, etc as the NOIs, and they are crushed regged mercilessly!
So the policy to not reg the NOI can’t be due to income disparity between them and the other Scientologists in that org.
Yet, for the staff of that org, its hands off the NOI people with courses and and Bridge actions only suggested to them. The “enlightening” process for them does not include high pressure or crush regging, ever. That’s what this public told me several years ago.
Interesting, huh?
But again, I have no way of knowing if this is the truth. It would appear to be a sensible (if squirrel!) “policy” though.
That’s most likely how it is, and I think Chris Shelton said the same thing in one of his videos. It’s still a strange union!
Yes, indeed. Very strange.
‘Calypso Louie’ Farrakhan, still flogging the same old second-hand Scientology rope to his NOI dupes: https://www.flickr.com/photos/marksshoops/24375846589/in/photolist-SERgUF-RPsAhw-D91zX4-D3YBk9-yQkTkD/
This is how Scientology views Islam and Mohammed.
Let’s all email Nation of Islam and give them a definition of implant. And let’s help them to understand how Scientology ( Hubbard) really feels about their religion.
I’m almost certain they do not know these facts. Let’s all help them to learn.
Send them any data you know about Ron and Islam.
Our emails and phone calls put the cabash on the police hosting a Scientology event in Florida.
Let’s help NOI find out about standard tech.
LRH mocks the prophet Mohammed by calling him a “small town booster”. PDC #24. 9 December 1952:
“It’s an enormous stone hanging suspended in the middle of a room, this is an incident called the Emanator by the way, and this thing is by the way the source of the Mohammedan Lodestone that they have hanging down there, that, eh, when Mohammed decided to be a good small-town booster in eh Kansas, Middle-East, or something of the sort. By the way, the only reason he mocked that thing up, is the trade wasn’t good in his hometown. That’s right. You read the life of Mohammed.
And he’s got a black one and it sort of hung between the ceiling and the floor, I don’t know, maybe they call it the Casbah or something or… Anyway, anyway, that thing is a mockup of the Emanator! The Emanator is bright, not black.
And so, your volunteer, who insists on a sightseeing trip, goes in and this thing is standing in the middle of the room, and it’s going ‘wong wong wong wong wong’ and he says: “Isn’t that pretty?”. It sure is, and then he says “Mmmgrmrm ponk” Why, I’ll tell you, they cart him from there, and they take him in and they do a transposition of beingness.”
Yo, dead Elron…I got ya “transposition of beingness” right here! *thrusts pelvis and simultaneously grabs crotch to ensure duplication of message’s intent*
Yes, L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of scientology, mocked and ridiculed the founder of Islam, Prophet Mohammad, Messenger of Allah, Peace be upon him.
Brian, the N.O.I. knows all about Scientology, their leadership has been involved in it for many years, they have participated in joint ventures… here’s a link to a 2012 article that details how they have been aligned since 2007 with a photo of (1999 Scientology Medal of Freedom award recipient) Rev. Alfreddie Johnson, Stacy Francis, and Louis Farrakhan and reporting about how NOI’s Hanan Islam and Scientology’s World Literacy Crusade siphoned off much money from charter schools… http://www.villagevoice.com/news/scientology-and-nation-of-islam-exposed-in-florida-school-takeover-in-israel-miscavige-shown-to-be-a-liar-by-own-attorneys-6726149
the two groups have been deeply entangled for many years, working their financial scams behind the scenes.
I don’t think it matters to the NOI that Hubbard was racist, separatist, and that the COS is predominantly white, nor does it matter to the Church of Scientology’s leader that the NOI is a racist, separatist group that hates whites and jewish people, and refers to them as ‘devils’, as long as big money is being made for both, they don’t care what their core values are.
So Will Smith gets his money back from a Scientology-operated school and immediately donates it to Farrakhan’s million man march. Yep. Nothing to see here folks, move along. Will and Jada are not scientologists and will continue to deny it whyle donating to scientology front groups.
Scientology on a via – the modern approach of plausible deniability, while keeping the kettle boiling.
Oh my… I’ll keep my true feeling away from this one but it does kinda of remind me of a paper I read once on the early days of the NAZI invasion of western Russia where some of the communities actually saw the NAZIs as liberators and waved at them and welcomed them into their homes. Such were the horrors of organisations like the NKVD, (forerunner to the KGB) and Stalin’s own ‘cleansing’ operations at the time.
Nothing good can come of an Islam Scientology mix no matter how you serve it, or dress it up.
There is one thing that all these assholes who preach being saviors and how the future is “ours” etc have in common is that they will not and cannot advocate/tolerate self-determinism in any form within their ranks.
Bait & switch knows no bounds or has any borders or beliefs beyond it’s effectiveness when force or intimidation is applied to it.
I could say, “God help us,” here but that’s one of the tools in the trade as well.
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you just said. And I’ll say “God help us! ” for you. Because I believe in God, in the spiritual sense. I’m wary and down right fearful of any and all organized religions, however. I think a life lived without a spiritual component is a life lived in vain. Organized religion always has its own agendas and it’s own laws, rules and especially its own Dogma. Cults are organized religion’s twisted bastard half siblings. All of the promise and more. All of the bad and worse.
Well, I can see this alliance potentially giving Scientology a bit of desperately needed support and camouflage at a time when it’s cult/illegal activities are becoming more widely known and there are hints of legal movement against them. I am hopeful, however, that any long lasting partnership between the hubris of Louis Farrakhan and David Miscavage is bound to implode at some point.
For a tour through the Inglewood Community Center and it’s relationship to the NOI check my great new infiltration video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTM6W6P_PJQ
It’s interesting to see that the posts telling us about how empty the orgs are , are so true. I hope that girl doesn’t get into too much trouble. She seemed sweet. Clueless, but sweet.
clueless dear “Exemp” is the ONLY way to keep someone IN these days….the ones who are NOT clueless are the ones who BLEW, escaped, quit, got out decades ago.
AGP, great video! Must have been spooky wandering around a large building! No one was there. Except for the receptionist…
Hellava job, AGP!
It is a bizarre combo. Could be two ultra “conservative” movements recognizing each other and seeing similar bents towards extremism, control, isolationism, exclusivity and righteousness. Same code different angles. The martian aspect is, uber entertaining. Man why can’t people be satisfied with simple biology. Everything has to be an argument and a superiority contest!
I can imagine the fall out when each really gets a look or a listen to the other’s fairy story of life origins, esp if they use cult internal dialogue. How long till DM uses the N word truly? 38 seconds.
I wonder if some of NOI interest is the exclusive betterment aspect. The desire to raise the African American community to a healthy whole is probably strong, and they may not care how they do it. Make the black able more able and such?
Farrakhan is clueless. Always has been, always will be.
His cluelessness goes back to when he was a young man.
Somehow, I just don’t see Farrakhan on the cans getting his withholds pulled.
David Miscavige won’t get auditing, why should Farrakhan have to? Isn’t he right up there somewhere with LRH, DM and Tom Cruise? Pffffft.
Geez, imagine putting anyone of those on the cans. I’d do it for thrills but I’d request to be armed with a taser. Who wants to be CS? The DofP I would expect to be conversant with martial arts. We won’t bother with an examiner – not needed!
TW, put that in the category of: Things That Will Never Happen.
Such a charming couple…
D.M. and L.F… If history repeats itself then…. https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-08-21/pact-between-hitler-and-stalin-paved-way-world-war-ii-was-signed-75-years-ago
Kinda sorta?
Forgive me for giving “verbal tech’ and being “SP for not pointing out the exact source reference” here but didn’t LRH say somewhere that 1.1’s will (something like) “form an alliance when needed but will eventually devour themselves in the process?”
Hmmmm….
Marriage of convenience?
Perhaps when SCN implodes, the NOI will be there to vacuum up all the money and property. They could claim SCN is a branch of NOI and file a few papers with the IRS.
+1! Yea, baby! I’d pay good money to see that!
Oh Mark! That’s a terrible thing to suggest… We have enough problems with Scientology but to see NOI fight through the courts for Scientology’s assets – excuse the French, but get the FUCK out of here!
If anyone deserves a payout of Scio’s assets it’s SO members, past members first & then present next, then staff, past first and then present next, and in fair consideration of that the Scio public, past first etc deserves their fair share of $ back to offset the bullshit endured.
Goodness me, where do your thoughts come from?
The whole premise of NOI, is basically to “kill whitey”. Watch the Farakahn clips on You Tube. He is extremely overt about this. They believe the black man is the superior race that came here from Mars,and later created the white man,which turned out to be a big mistake.Now they are trying to reverse this. Elijai Mohammad says this very clearly in a video. Farakahn says for the black man to sleep with a white woman,is the same as a black man laying down with a dog.
This is all on You Tube. I guess DM,doesn’t watch you tube.
All true…
Joetheta, I believe all that kind of talk is just theatre on Farrakhan’s part. I don’t believe he hates white people or Jews.
Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending him, mind you!
I don’t like, trust or respect Farrakhan AT ALL, and I think its a tragedy that African Americans who want and need to empower themselves, better themselves, who strive to overcome the wrongs done to them in this country for centuries would unite themselves under the leadership of such a person. I think its a tragedy that there has been no-one to inherit the mantle of Martin Luther King, who had intelligence and perception combined with strength and compassion.
That said, the man is a powerful speaker and a master manipulator. He knows his people. He know how they live, what they deal with. He knows everything there is to know about them. He speaks directly to them and he knows how to whip up powerful emotions in them. He knows how to speak and get right under their skin with regard to being the descendants of slaves who came to this country in chains. He knows how to pierce thru logic and get to their gut, their fears. He speaks directly to THAT and he does it VERY well. His people believe that he knows them, understands them, cares deeply about them. MLK did this also but he tempered his insights with compassion and the necessity of avoiding hate. MLK inspired his people to be strong and to not hate, because hate would never win over love, he said. Farrakhan is having none of that. He unites his flock with the old standby method of giving them scapegoats. Jews, whites, blah blah, they’re devils, ts all their fault, blah blah. He’s a powerful speaker. His audience – they’re not hateful people. They’re most good, decent people. They’re mostly poor and struggling. He knows how to reach in, right to their gut, right to their deepseated fears, their shame, their dreads. Then he builds them up, tells them they’re superior, other wonderful stuff. They react to him not analytically but viscerally. I’ve seen it.
WOW, Aqua…..just wow. Incredible post. I believe history proves the most insidious human evil begins with a charismatic smile and that ability to ‘reach down into people’s fears’. Thank you.
Farrakhan has more minions and followers than miscavige. One of these days Farrakhan might just put miscavige in a hole.
McCarran… 100% agree……they might be “duking it out” over who IS the BOSS…..
Dwarf Boy wouldn’t stand a chance…
I’ve got a free weekend, I’ll help with the transport arrangements.
I’ll bring the wine…
Cheese and crackers anyone??
“The only other place I have seen anything resembling this (outside the military) is the Sea Org Day “Honor Guards.”
Nope, you’ve seen it enacted many times before in much grander displays of rigidly conformist behavior in North Korea on its major celebration dates, such as the recent Day of the Sun event in which more than a million North Koreans filled the main square in Pyongyang and put on an almost flawless display of exactly this same kind of color-coordinated, completely synchronized performance for their Dear Leader that the not-so Honorable Minister Farseckahn stages within the NOI ( see here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQxW_ipxEEo ).
Just a little more goose stepping and, if you didn’t already know better, you’d swear that this was a segregated contingent of black North Koreans taking part in their own Day of the Sun display of absolute loyalty to the dictatorial regime…chilling!
You also see it in marching bands and drum corps, so I would maybe get a little less hyperbolic about the evils of synchronized drill.
OK, should have said “in a “religious movement” outside the military”
I’m making both superficial and deep analogies between the NOI, Co$ and N. Korea that just don’t apply to marching bands here in the states, except at the most superficial of levels.
Totalitarian states and coercive mind control cults very often adopt the same kinds of rigidly conformist and coerced displays of loyalty and obedience, despite existing in widely varying cultures and during different historical periods. The superficial similarities just serve as clues and warning signs of their deeper nature as oppressive, totalistic cultures wherever you run across them.
However, if you look at some of the extreme hazing that’s occurred with some regularity in school marching bands, fraternities and the like, there’s definitely the same kind of group conformist principle at work there which seems to be one of the necessary predisposing elements to these completely avoidable tragedies.
Imo, it’s best to just say “Fuck coerced and regimented conformity in all its many and varied forms!”
Saviour’s Day–is the British spelling.
Hey Mr. Farrakhan, I cannot wait for you and your followers to discover Ron’s lecture tape “What is Wrong With This Universe.”
In it Ron says that the Kaaba stone is the dramatizing of the implant called the Emanator.
Ron also says Mohamed found Islam for financial reasons.
Maybe someone has contact to the NOI and would like to let them in on what lies ahead for them.
Maybe you can do a blog on it Mike. I’ll try to find exact quotes and post later.
Let’s help make this knowledge available to them.
For Scientology, it’s lies about critics that are the churches weapons of choice.
And the weapons of critics against Scientology?
THE TRUTH ABOUT SCIENTOLOGY
L RON HUBBARD DID NOT THINK MUCH OF ISLAM.
DM needs to edit the tape to take out the reference. But it is already on the internet in Ron’s voice, I think, somewhere.
I’ll find it. And maybe you can bring a higher profile to it Mike.
Ron disses Islam and Mohamed. And you know how fond they are of that.
Contact the NOI people and let’s flood them with Ron’s take on Mecca and the Prophet.
” L RON HUBBARD DID NOT THINK MUCH OF ISLAM.”
Yo Dave,
Now it’s your turn. Ole El Con did not think much of anything other than El Con. You certainly don’t think much of anything period. And now Louie wants a piece of Your pie.
Whadayagonnado Dave?
Show Louie how wrong he is Dave so he will come to his senses and acknowledge You as the greatest ecclesiastical leader since ……… Mohamed? Certainly You are all of that!
BTW Dave, have you checked out your window for any drones lately. Better get that camera up on high replaced with some anti aircraft batteries.
Dave,
Those tiny drones give a whole new meaning to the concept that your offices have been ‘bugged’; ‘hibernating’ out of sight.
No Update Update:
1. What’s up with the 500 names and numbers for the Judge (you will have to disconnect if the Judge calls, no meddling allowed)?
2. Has the City of Clearwater informed you that The Fort Harrison will be designated as a tear-down on their new Master Plan?
3. Have you replaced the old “Hole” with newer double-wides? Is this your way of ‘proving’ that the “Hole” never existed?
4. Who got thrown into the lake for the big dead tree to left of the main entrance to Building #50?
5. Does Yeager still camp out at the green swamp?
6. The rectangular septic ponds (Mike’s and so many others’ old stomping grounds) are empty and cleaned out. Have you conducted a recent personnel purge or did the Health Department shut them down?
+1!
Brian, with all the nakedly racist rhetoric that Elron is responsible for and his direct negation of some of Islam’s most central tenets of belief, you’d think that someone in the NOI would be aware of all that!
For the most part, the NOI’s “kill/white whitey” is way over the top, and constitutes it’s own form of extreme racial prejudice, but where Elron was concerned, it’s pretty much right on the money!
Someone needs to clue these NOI fools in on who Elron really was and what he actually stood for!
Harpoona, I do not think these people know about Ron and implants. I would put money on it that if NOI found out what Ron thought of prophets in general – ALL OF THEM – they may have a different relation with the “church.”
And the Kaaba being an implant would be the zenith of blasphemies. Muhammed founding Islam for money reasons would be “cut off the head” kind of bad.
Luckily in the west we do not have much of that. But we sure have some facts that could put a wrench in the DM/NOI love fest.
Hey, any onlookers, email this info to NOI in Ingelwood Ca. Scientologists think how Ron thinks. And Ron thought that the Mecca stone is dramatizing the Emulator Implant. And That Muhammed founded Islam for money. (mmmm, founding a religion for money….)
This is by far the most scary thing Scientology is doing. Farrakhan and Hubbard are remarkably similar. The only good new is Farrakhan is old. The bad news is a mutated more destructive ideological possession may be the result.
I noticed a lot of people with Hebrew Israeli names are regulars on the Valley Org OT committee, eg Vered Ziv, Avner Golan. I did wonder what was going on. I am Jewish and pro-Israel myself.
Perhaps immigrants to the US feel vulnerable and are prey for CoS.
In the film Cabaret a blond haired, uniformed Hitler Youth sings “Tomorrow Belongs to Me” on the eve of the eve of the Nazis taking absolute control.
Miscavige isn’t doing too well in Inglewood. The other day AGP posted a vid where he and his friened penetrated the place and found it completely deserted except for the receptionist. They had the run of the place and photo’d everything. Wonder what happened to the poor receptionist.
Who knows more about “mental health” than Louis Farrakhan & L. Con Tubbolard?
My cat does, She accepts no crap and no matter how many purrs and leg rubs she gives, she has motives and agendas very much her own! She has me being a very compliant “staff member.”
Dogs have Masters…..CATS have servants….
Besides your cat I Yawn. 🙂
Ummmmm…..everyone else on the planet except Dwarf Boy?
Well, what’s your point OSD? 😉
Both are ‘Deep State’ puppets of the co-ordinated information apparatus. When a scapegoat was needed for the Lockerbie airplane incident, who better than Libya’s Ghadaffi? And who welcomes their ‘brother’ to America? Farrakhan. And how is this played out in the press? http://www.nytimes.com/1996/08/28/us/officials-to-block-qaddafi-gift-to-farrakhan.html. Just google Farrakhan and Ghadaffi. One is still alive and one isn’t.
How does Miscavige and his flying monkey lawyer play in to this? Just follow the $ (but you can’t coz it is all sanctioned by the IRS…) The Criminal Mind HCOB offers one possible explanation of the affinities involved.
‘Deep State’ puppets of the co-ordinated information apparatus
Can you explain what you mean by this?
I have heard others speculate that scientology is some sort of government front? Is this what you mean to say?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_within_a_state
“State within a state is a political situation in a country when an internal organ (“deep state”), such as the armed forces and civilian authorities (intelligence agencies, police, administrative agencies and branches of governmental bureaucracy), does not respond to the civilian political leadership.”
And of course the “co-ordinated information apparatus” was Hubbard’s ‘beyond the grave’ fictional poke at the people who *think* they run this planet….he who laughs last, and all of that…
Tom,
Are you a part of the Disinformation section of the Deep State?
Tom, I thought we only got fruitcake at Christmas.
Not so strange, Mike. The ‘fellows’ are in the marriage bed of $$$$$.
BINGO OhioBuckeye! Take the $ out of it and it falls apart.
When it does “explode like the proverbial volcano” I will be in the front row enjoying the fireworks lol, I only have one question…who’s bringing the popcorn?
Buttered or non buttered Lee! I will be in the cheering section, along with many others who are formers…and like myself & Mick & a few other hardy souls who stand for truth and justice…..we are referred to as “never ins”…….Let the fireworks begin!
Oh noes! Fireworks too? I was just getting the popcorn assignments in order. Ok, just for that, you’re on board for 2 cases of bottle rockets and must find 3 of your closest friends to bring exploding stars.
I was going to recommend raiding David Miscavige’s pilfered funds to buy them, but I think we will be spending those to rehabilitate the lost souls still stuck in there.
Some of my closest friends indeed would enjoy obtain those “illegal” fireworks…I wouldn’t mind too much if DM would SIT on one of them, and then we’d ignite it. A few of those exploding stars in his gourmet cuisine wouldn’t hurt either.
The only pilfered funds we’d find would not be found locally, in his pockets would be only lint.
Hmm, Lee, in checking my list, I have you down for 1 giant air popper and 3 jumbo cases of popcorn, did you not get the memo? I’ve stocked my 6 lbs of butter and a case of salt.
As always, I’ll bring the wine.
That goes without saying. This time, though, can you save some for me?
Not surprised to see Scientology and NOI together. NOI is a different “brand” of religion. Hubbard was anti-Christian to the core. I think the Prophet and Hubbard shared a few characteristics. I think they fit at least as far as the discipline is concerned. When Hubbard died, Islam was a much smaller percentage of the world population. Hubbard spent too much time with Crowley at the turn of the 20th century and got a distorted viewpoint which manifested itself in his OT VIII anti-Christ material. He does not give details about the internet or the spread of Islam which messes up his space alien implant theories. But then Hubbard was three centuries out of date.
I wonder if Farrakhan finds the whole ‘space opera’ part of Scientology appealing?
NOI is already a bit of a UFO cult.
Farrakahn has stated in public that NOI is interested in Hubbard’s Dianetics specifically the auditing. But Elijah, the founder of NOI, had the idea that Blacks controlled earth 6,000 years ago and lost control to Whites. So NOI needs to have space aliens and space ships to make the story real. Elijah of the Bible is one of the key figures in the UFO movement. Biblical passages are especially prone to space ship interpretations and to Kabballistic doomsday scenarios like the one in Islam. Old texts get interpreted in a variety of ways.
Farrakahn is about 84 or so. He dies and then the new leader goes to UFO’s to make the religion seem modern. So you get a new twist to a cult. Scientology was the Aryan cult of Hitler modernized. Now the Blacks get a chance.
Wow. Just Wow. A marriage made in hell.
Amen McCarran……Just let there be ONE slip up, one misstep, one “unkind word or action”… and the “Nation of Islam” will be literally all over CO$……..
Let the fireworks begin…….
It makes my blood run cold. Who knows what goes through that mad hatters mind? I sincerely believe that he seeks world domination and believes that he will achieve it. By any means necessary. NOI is exactly the same. Eliminate everybody else, then turn on each other. They won’t accomplish it, but what a holy hell of a mess they can make, regardless.
A power struggle the likes possibly of what has never been seen before. WHO is “the top dog”, who has more power and control over “his flock”….who has the most obedient loyal subservient to the “master” flock who will follow every command ordered.
Frightening to say the least…..
The Saviours’ Day Drill Competiton looks like a Janet Jackson video.
My theory on the NOI and COB is that COB watched the movie ‘Malcolm X’ and got all excited when he saw the scenes where Malcolm could control his followers with one small move of his hand.
Knowing full well that the SO Honor Guard would never be that coordinated or ‘cool’ (Miscavige does seem to be obsessed with being ‘cool’) COB did the next best thing…..he bought himself a group of pre-controlled cool people.
Yeah, this unholy alliance has disaster written all over it.
More like the hoped for LAST Michael Jackson mega production…”This Is It”….for him it was, he died while it was being produced.