Thank you all for your reports from around the world. These reports provide a snapshot of the Church of Scientology in its current state.
This is only a sampling, and I hope that others will continue to send in reports from their areas so this can be added to with more detailed information and it can become a useful source of true information for Scientologists and the media.
One of the reasons for doing this is that every time Pinocchio Pouw “speaks”, or a church lawyer stands up in court, their Miscavige penned statements drone on about the fabulous international expansion of Scientology under the brilliant guidance of David Miscavige. The claims are familiar — 25 or 37 “new churches” opened over the last “few years”. Greater expansion in the last few years than in the combined 5 decades previously. 10 million Scientologists. “More than 10,000 Orgs, Missions and ‘related groups'” and some idiocy about square footage of buildings purchased or under renovation.
So, here are the first summaries. The information sent in about the “library campaign” is a separate posting.
Steven’s Creek “Ideal Org”
Very few cars in the parking lot any time we drive by. 15 or so at most. The last grand re-re opening probably had about 400-500 in attendance and that included most staff from 3 local orgs as well as people from out of town. We were there and told we couldn’t take pictures with regular cameras by Secret Service looking guys. I asked why and they said that some people were posting pictures on entheta Internet sites. Oh no! Apparently they don’t know that most cell phones can take and post pictures immediately! They didn’t stop anyone from using cell phone cameras. What crack security!
Los Gatos “Ideal Org”
Actually in San Jose as most people know. I was on course as recently as 2011, often by myself or with a few staff members. Often Academy and Public course rooms combined with one supervisor. Had a tour last year after second grand opening to see the new video displays and the renovated interior. Have also been to a few events. Very few public around. The BIS graphs in the Academy show the highest ever at 56. That was last summer. [BTW BIS counts for EACH DAY someone is in the org on service]
Mountain View semi “Ideal Org”
(It was declared ideal once but apparently is not good enough)
Current org and “waiting for funding” ideal org. Same story. Very few cars in the current parking lot. Recent huge fund raising efforts have not resulted in equally huge funds as reported in weekly standings.
Photos show Saturday morning at the existing Mt. View Org. There were only 4 cars in the parking lot.
Common business sense would have you getting a new, bigger building when you have outgrown the one you are in, right?
The new building is attractive enough but it is in the back of a business park and has a freeway wall to one side of it.
Both buildings are hard to find and have no pedestrian traffic at all.
PAC Base
I’ve been to ASHO and AOLA as recently as 2011. Much quieter than years past. The parking lot was never full and it used to be packed with cars on all side streets in years past. The big Solo I courseroom is about 1/5 full at any time. Used to be crowded. Practical room was quiet. Used to be noisy and active.
San Diego
After 12 million in donations for the Ideal Org of San Diego located in La Mesa, the property has been sold for 9.3 million.
See NBCS story here
There are no more Missions. The SD Org (downtown SD) did have a For Sale sign on it awhile back. Not sure if it’s still for sale.
Detroit Org
They purchased a building but it has never been renovated. It just stands empty.
Santa Clarita
Here’s a bit of data for you from the suburbs of southern California: the “Church of Scientology, Mission of Santa Clarita” has gone from an office suite, to someone’s living room, to a PO Box over the last few years. Santa Clarita is a mid-size city of about 200,000 about 30 mins north of downtown Los Angeles.
If one does a simple web search, one would hardly know that anything is amiss. If one googles “Church of Scientology, Mission of Santa Clarita”, all indications suggest that right there in the middle of Santa Clarita, on a busy street, there is an office suite or small building that is a Scientology Mission. There’s even a website and a facebook page.
As it turns out however, when I went looking for it in 2009, the “Mission” had moved about 45 minutes northeast of Santa Clarita into someone’s house in a residential section of the high-desert city of Lancaster. I drove by the street address (which I found on scientology.org at the time) about four years ago and there was no “Church of Scientology” sign at all. It was just a plain single-story house, in a rather bland low-income neighborhood. It was mid-week around 8pm, and there was only one car in the driveway.
Then today, in response to your latest blog post, I went to the scientology.org website and looked up the Mission to see if it was still there. Turns out the address that scientology.org now gives is a post-office box in a “Post n Parcel” store in a strip mall in the same desert city of Lancaster. From the style of the address, I actually thought they found an office suite — but I went to check it out, and it turned out it was just a P.O. Box.
Sunland
This is the report from the capital of corporate Scientology, Sunland/Tujunga, County of LA, with a total population of 20,372 per the 2010 Census. This area has the highest density of working (not independently wealthy) corporate Scientologists in the world, because the housing prices are somewhat more affordable for the Los Angeles area. On a hot and dry day one can see a Kool-Aid tanker truck coming through Foothill Blvd. every 50 minutes.
To serve the straight vertical expansion there is one corporate Scientology mission in Sunland/Tujunga. It is located along Foothill Blvd right besides and beneath a Panda Panda Restaurant. The building is in somewhat respectable condition and they even got a new “Scientology” sign on the outside a few weeks ago. We wondered whether that will increase the bodies in the shop or make the nearby pedestrian crossing more frequented as people elect to change the side of the street to walk down Foothill Boulevard.
A few steps down (not sure if that was an intended allegory), one approaches the main entrance to the mission.
We decided to take a look at this place at a Sunday afternoon. The mission looks somewhat “ideal” and is situated in the world’s highest concentration of Scientologists per square mile; therefore, we wanted to see the mission at its busiest time. Below is a Sunday afternoon picture of the mission front desk.
You can imagine our disappointment: Instead of buzzing activities we saw an empty desk and empty hallways. One of the correspondents pointed out the sign with the opening hours.
That explained it. Sunday is closed and Mon- Fri. open for 150 minutes, Saturday 390 minutes. Either the efficiency of the mission in the densest corporate Scientologists population to handle the straight up vertical expansion of Bridge® flow is just through the roof or they really have nothing to do at all. The opening hours of the Sunland Mission per week (whopping 1140 minutes) is approached by the neighboring Whopper business (Burger King) with 1020 minutes in a single day. Maybe that is in indicator for the buzzing traffic this Mission actually sees.
Honolulu, Hawaii:
10 years ago, the Honolulu Org, while a mere shadow of it’s former late ’70’s, early 80’s self, was none-the-less situated in the middle of the city, on a reasonably high foot traffic thoroughfare, and in a reasonably upstat space with 2,000 or so sq ft., probably 20 or so Day + Fnd staff, with some students on courses, and pc’s in the HGC.
Today, while somewhat close to the largest shopping mall in the state (Ala Moana), the Org is tucked into maybe 800 sq ft. on the 2nd floor of a very tired office (come mixed low-profile retail) building across the street from a few “Hostess Clubs”. Day + Fnd staff may total 5 or 6, 1 course room with few students (mostly old timers coming a couple times a week to grind through their Basics), and 1 auditing room with the door seldom closed.
Straight up and vertical if the top push-pin has fallen off and the graph is now hanging upside down.
Alabama
I can report for Alabama (my home state): We don’t have ANY Scientology churches to service our approx. 5 million inhabitants.
Philadelphia Org
I “staked out” the Philly org this morning from approximately 9:05 to 10:00 AM. Staff muster must have taken place at 9:00 as the door was already open (course starts at 9:30 on weekends); consequently, I was unable to get a precise staff count. Three public arrived a few minutes before 9:30 – and that was it. The parking lot directly next to the building (which I assume is for org parking) contained a total of three vehicles. I spent about 20 minutes in the org and, based on limited observations and a few quick conversations, estimate that the number of staff on post was approximately 6 to 7.
I subsequently checked out the new idle org building on Chestnut Street and both it, and a smaller building next to it (currently being used as a book store) were closed. It does not appear that renovations to the building have even been started despite the fact it was purchased in 2007. I was on staff until the late 1980s and can tell you that we would average about 10-15 public on the weekends with at least 3 or 4 PCs.
Second Report on Philadelphia
We have a run down org which could actually be fine except we are saddled with a giant derelict of a building which is supposedly the tallest building in Scientology.It cost 8 million and was purchased without knowing the reno costs.Who does that? I heard 8 million for renos but not to worry there is an ideal org event tonight! We have a very small but extremely dedicated staff often people have left for SO or just vanished with no explanation to public ever.Very small field and not visibly growing for years . Making very few auditors or clears if any? Again very great very small staff and very small but generous field .We are both being abused from above the long term condition is emergency or lower. Straight up and vertical is straight up fantasy.
Houston, TX
I can verify Houston’s lack of growth. The Mission is Foundation hours only. It is located in a shopping center behind a nightclub. At night, you can hear the music in the mission. While it has off-street parking, it has zero visibility from the street and zero walk-by traffic. See Google maps photo from the street
Albany, NY
In Albany, NY (the capital city of NY state), there is supposed to be a mission, but I can’t find much. As far as I can tell, the mission covers all of upstate NY and has as-needed hours. No one answers the phone number. Not much going on.
West Palm Beach
There is a tiny mission there set back from the road in a strip mall. It is only open Sundays 10:30 am to 6 pm and 3 evenings a week from 7pm to 10pm.
New Haven
I drove by the New Haven org yesterday afternoon shortly before five PM. Years ago (mid 80s to mid 90s) he church used to occupy two floors of the building on the corner of Whitney Ave. and Blake Street. The size of their rental has been diminishing ever since. When I checked yesterday, the office was closed. There was no sign on the door saying where, if anywhere, they had moved. My guess is that they have an office somewhere nearby. (There were seven or eight cars in their parking lot). It appears they have gone into hiding.
Second Report on New Haven Org
I live about ninety miles from New Haven and only get over there a couple of times a month. The org is currently on Whalley Ave. in a nice section of the city. It has been there since at least 1986. Prior to the org, there were two or three missions in CT. My last involvement was in the late 70s; at that time, there were at least three missions: Berlin, New London, and New Haven (there may have been another mission in Bridgeport or Fairfield as well). Today, there are just the org and a mission in West Hartford, CT.
I believe the building for the Ideal Org was purchase around 2007 amidst great fanfare. A website was put up to tout the news but interest in the project quickly waned and the last newsletter was penned in December, 2008. The building purchased was an old furniture store (Hallocks) about one block from the current location. Since that time, the only use of the property has to provide ample parking spaces for the current org. I have driven by at different times of different days and the org always appears dead. I have never seen more than two people inside at any one time. There is security monitoring on the new building as I was approached within minutes when taking photos one day.
It should be noted that New Haven is one of the most tolerant cities in the United States with respect to religious freedom. They obtained tax exemption for the property in 2007 but failed to file certain papers with the assessor and the exemption was revoked. When the tax bills came, rather than appealing the assessments, they ignored the bills and the property went into foreclosure. The church then blamed the city for failing to tell them that they needed to file for an exemption and counter-sued. According to the first lawyer for the city,the city offered to forgive one year of taxes if they paid the other year. The lawsuit was only recently resolved although I am not aware of the details.
Now that the tax issues have been resolved, the road is well paved for strait up and vertical expansion.
Tuscon, AZ
Tucson Mission has not recovered from its attempted takeover by an SP in 2011. It’s still surviving on donations for its monthly rent. Staff still doesn’t get paid. Before the takeover attempt, there were about 10-15 people at Sunday Service. Now there’s fewer than five. Courseroom runs 3 evenings a week and Saturday 9-5. Only about 3 people on course, if that. Some Saturday afternoons it’s just empty. There’s no mission holder, so it isn’t even qualified to be a Mission. ED walks around with a 9mm handgun in a holster. The ED hits relentlessly on anything female, No one knows how to read OCAs. I brought a friend in who was interested in seeing what’s going on and the brutish behavior of the ED, gun and all, frightened her into leaving. The people who used to be at the Mission that actually knew Scientology in 2011 were removed in a “purge”. The one remaining guy on staff who seems decent is stuck in the courseroom, hasn’t moved on the Bridge in 12 years. He can’t move now, though, since he gave all the money he’d saved to go Clear to Phoenix Idle Org fundraising effort. No promo is being sent out. No books are being sold. The local OTs finished their Basics at the Mission long ago or went to AOLA or Flag. The place seemed like a fortified morgue. Not attractive to new customers at all.
Phoenix, AZ “Ideal Org”
Phoenix Idle Org has lost over 50% of the staff it acquired in an effort to become Ideal. Seems they weren’t qualified to be on staff, especially the problematic clause about not having debts that will pull them out of the org. On Saturday and Sunday during the day, I only see 3 cars in the parking lot. The staff seems to park on the other side of the building, about 5 cars worth. They have three courserooms collapsed into one since they don’t have enough supervisors to cover three coursetooms. It doesn’t matter, though, because there’s only a maximum of eight people on a good weekend day. Most of the people in the courseroom seem to be OTs doing Basics or Day staff doing their hats. There’s no KTL, no LOC; they don’t have supervisors trained to do it. I didn’t see anyone doing meter drills, so I’m concluding there’s no Academy auditors in training. The senior C/S spends a lot of time doing WIAC checklists, probably for compliance reports to RTC. The HGC was empty. There were never any new people in the Div 6 media center, so it looks like guessing the foot traffic and general interest has flagged to non-existence. When I called the bookstore to ask the bookstore officer about a “new release” announced at an Int event, the BSO couldn’t be located, and for six calls in three days! So I called CC Int and bought the new release there.
CC Int send the release I ordered to a friend of mine, which was a CCHR video about DSM. I sent it to him because his father is incarcerated in a psych hospital. The church followed up by NOT putting him on the org magazine mailing list. They’ve also sent him three letters obviously written by a poor Sea Org recruit that doesn’t have the CF folder to hand. She keeps asking why he’s interested in Scientology, which he obviously isn’t! I asked him not to ask off the mailing list in the hopes that CC Int will keep sending him out-R letters and keep alienating him. He doesn’t live in the same state as CC Int anyway, so no way is he going to just “go in”.
Denver Org
3 cars in the parking lot, nobody else visible.
Vancouver, Canada
My friend and I went to visit the Vancouver, Canada org out of interest a few months back, out of curiosity. We used our real first names, false last names, phone numbers, and addresses, and I gave a new email address that I could check and/or dump that was unrelated to my usual one. Our first impression is that the Vancouver org was completely dead. There were two young girls (14?) at the front desk who were both uninterested and confused when we said we wanted to know more about Scientology. There were many books and media on display, ostensibly for purchase. The entry seemed pretty dated and cramped. There were a couple empty meeting rooms off the front room, but they all seemed empty and unused. Finally they found someone to help us (an Extension Course Director?), and we were set up to watch a dvd and then do the Oxford Capacity Analysis test. Rev. Lorraine, the woman ‘helping’ us, asked if we wanted to try auditing, and we said that we did. But she was unable to find a working e-meter! She tried one, but it was broken. Then another Scientology person took us each individually to discuss the assessment of our Oxford tests. She explained it to some degree, but as expected, she had lots of negative things to say about me. (!!!)
While we were there (Sunday late morning) we saw a few people come and go. Maybe 4 or 5? Everyone seemed to know each other. There was no congregation of people, but everyone entering the org went to some back rooms that we didn’t have access to.
Ultimately we didn’t buy anything, but we were each given a dvd to watch at home. We didn’t get much pressure to buy anything, but we were told about an upcoming seminar. Lorraine was, frankly, a terrible salesperson.
A few days later I received an email from Lorraine, asking if I wanted to be involved in the seminar. I replied: “Hi Lorraine, Thank you for your email, but I have some reservations and concerns about Scientology. I’m afraid too many non-LRH sources that make me concerned about its goals and motivations. Also, your colleague told me that I was “cold blooded and heartless”, and that wasn’t a very welcoming way to be introduced to the faith. Thank you for your time.”
I received a reply saying “Hi Xxxx – Lorraine is on holidays at the moment, so will not be able to answer your email for a week or so. Best Regards, Kathie Smith” I never heard from either Lorraine or Kathie again.
Ultimately, I expected a smoother sales pitch, more aggressive salespeople, a better presented visitor centre, and greeters who had a bit more experience and training. I was surprised that two interested walk-ins were treated with such lack of interest.
I also took out a couple Scientology books from my local library in Coquitlam, a suburb of Vancouver. Out of interest, I asked the librarian how many times they’d been taken out. Both were dated from 1996. One (Dianetics) had been taken out twice (including me), the other had never been taken out before me. Seems that people in Coquitlam are not beating down the doors of Scientology.
Toronto Canada
Coincidentally, I live close to the Toronto org on Yonge Street. A couple of weeks ago there was a large fiberoptic tube going inside their front door. A local said he worked on the site behind them, but that he knew this was a fiberoptic installation and the whole building was being rebuilt, and yep, they were in there redoing it But I have seen nothing else on my trips back and forth (it’s my neighbourhood), and it looks gutted, but completely empty. Thankfully, they have removed the dozens of tiny little rickety-looking air conditioners that used to hang ominously out of dozens of windows, but the building is dead. Is this another situation where it may be finished in 10 years or more? Because it really is a giant eyesore sitting where it is now.
Winnepeg, Canada:
Here’s some information about the purchase of a building for Winnipeg, Manitoba’s Ideal Org.
The purchase happened in 2008 and as far as I know, I’ve driven by the building, it is still empty and not being renovated. The present Org is in a rented space a few blocks away. See news article here
Montreal, Quebec Canada
The future Montreal Ideal Org was bought for 4.2 million in 2007 with parishioners donations. It is still not renovated and I don’t know if enough money has been regged for renovations. The original Org is at 4489 Papineau Avenue Montreal. It is open but whenever I drive by it looks empty.
Gothenburg Org in Sweden
They only somtimes answer the phone. I called about 10 times, different days and times during the day, before they answered. The attitude is much less friendly than it used to be, they seem to be very much on the defense, like they feel they´re surrounded by hostility and they always suspect a new person’s a journalist or some other enemy.
I get the feeling the org must have declined more than 50% during the past years. Answered an e-mail though and said that they had staff on GAT2 training, but not enough here to even answer the reception or a substitute for it, and not any messages about this on their web-site. Unthinkable during the past 45 years, so it’s a sharp decline it seems.
Adelaide, Australia
I don’t know how much you know about Adelaide , as you gave it a mention in your recent blog, it has a building marked out as a future purchase for idle org.( Probably about the 8th building named over the past 15 years or so.) This morning Gold were in town to do a photo/video shoot in front of the building with as many field public they could muster. Desperate messages sent to my phone from the org to please be there. I guess everyone else got the desperate plea. I decided to check it out from a distance. I don’t think there was much more than 15 people there, Some could’ve been Gold and a few kids were there too. Most of the guys were old die hards and some good well intentioned souls who are friends of mine. Poor sods. I went off for a coffee and came back later when all had gone to get a closer look. The location is about 1/2 an hour drive from the central business district. The address is 1 Second Ave Mawson Lakes. A place called Technology Park. If you google map it you can see it is nice and secluded hidden away from any vehicle and foot traffic placed at the end of a cul-de-sac. It’s not until you drive in front of it that you get to see the whole building, as from the distance it’s obscured by other buildings and trees. You can barely see it from the main Rd and what you can see of it is the back of the building anyway and I think the speed limit on that road is 80 km/hr. To get there you have to take the correct turn off and without a Scientology sign you could easily miss it.
This would be the most ridiculous chose by the the powers that be.
South Bridge, Edinburgh
Talking about idle morgues the one in South Bridge Edinburgh, which used to be a bustling hive of activity, was found to be as you would expect in the current circumstances, a very empty space with no students and no public. It has a very narrow entrance leading to 2 flights of stairs up to the org but amazingly, it has just while walls….no information on what is going on upstairs, until you get inside and find the fancy bookracks! If you blink when you walk past it you miss it. That’s why you always needed information at the front door, and a very active body router. Nothing like that in PT. In fact there is a HOMELESS persons’ office right next door to the org entrance! There are NO books in local bookshops, and very few to be found in libraries. And there is NO promotional campaigns running in Scotland or the UK…no Dianetics ads in papers, no billboards….just tumbleweed! So much for straight up vertical expansion.
Amsterdam, Holland
In the Netherlands there is only the Amsterdam org; they haven’t managed to open as much as a mission in one of the other cities. In 1984, as a result of Jonestown and the behest of parliament, a large inquiry into cults took place. Scientology was among those organisations scrutinized and they had 725 members at the time, of whom 320 were active according to Scientology (the latter number may be Bodies in the Shop, but I am not sure). In contrast, only 258 people have donated for the Ideal Org in Amsterdam between 2006 and 2012. So they have actually grown smaller in the past 30 years in the Netherlands.
Second Report on Amsterdam.
The org is quite empty. A few people in the Academy, 10 max. No Clears made in the last five years. A new building has just been purchased. Staff is about 30. The org is busy with co-audit teams who are redoing their Objectives. No auditors made in the last five years, except for two staff. ( one at Flag)
The main public library has: No “Basics”. Just DMSMH; Dianetics ’55; Fundamentals of Thouhgt; New Slant of Live. And a lot of critical newspapers articles against the church.
Frankfurt Germany
The Church of Scientology in Frankfurt, Germany is celebrating its 40 years anniversary. They won’t survive another 40. Here’s a fresh image from a dark dirty alley behind the central station. The door sign is printed on a paper attached with gaffa tape. And the entrance looks like a corpse cooler. Anette Iren Johansen
You’re so smart! Thanks for all the info.
Mike,
The pictures you post at the heading of your articles are hilarious. I have laughed so many times. Thank you.
Mike, big thanks to you and the intrepid SCs for this interesting,extensive and helpful intel. Kudos for the way you just keep delivering the truth about the actual scene!
Now, I have a question for you, please, or for anyone: In Class V orgs now, who opens the mail? I know what the HCOPL says, but I’m wondering if there is heightened security now with the snail mail, with maybe an OSA terminal opening it instead of Reception. Anyone have current data on this?
Mike…. that photo….. is it the Titanic or maybe the Freewinds?
Scientology was destined to implode. It operates like an other totalitarian system. Mind control, control through fear, and endless purges. In my short tenure as a Scientologist I saw many good people thrown under the bus for simply being good human beings and not cooperating with evil. I never gave them the chance to tear me down. I walked away a free man. I flourished and prospered.
With this fresh intel report, it is very clear that the cult is in serious irreversible trouble. Miscavige will ensure that Scientology will continue it’s downward spiral into oblivion.
I try to keep this current with news of openings and closings. It’s not complete, so I welcome additions or corrections from anybody. rodkeller8008@gmail.com. Open this link in Google Earth to see:
Where is Scientology?
https://sites.google.com/site/whereisscientology/Where_is_Scientology.kml
Well, about Hannover Org Germany all is already said: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hannover-org-not-too-inviting-and-no-straight-up-and-vertical-in-sight/
I can confirm it and say, that the number of staff shrinked even more to about 5 or 6, all more or less part time. Publics on course almost none.
I can’t get enough news like this! Thanks very much, Mike.
Mike, This may be the last thing I have to say, because when you look at “relative” this situation is pretty much over.
Priscilla Presley had 75,000 people light a candlelight vigil for her late husband Elvis in 2012. There are not 75,000 Scientologists in the world today.
What is the difference between her and David Miscavige? She knows how to honor someone while DM throws Hubbard under the bus every chance he gets.
What more can you say after this? Really, not much.
Seriously. more people pass through Graceland every year than the Church of Scientology.
We should have put Priscilla Presley in charge of the Church of Scientology.
If you are ABLE to CONFRONT some
ENTHETA here is a bit of MASS on the subject.
http://angrygaypope.com/scientology_struggling_missions_southern_ca.htm
It’s an odd mix. They don’t use the word “Scientology” on the web site, but they use the S double-triangle.
Hubbards great-grandson has that symbol tattoed on his arm
Can anybody tell me what this is?
southcoastmission.org
26981 Vista Terrace, Suite A
Lake Forest, CA 92630
Is it a mission, or what? I never heard of it before.
Google lists it as the Church of Scientology. Once again, in an industrial area with absolutely no foot traffic. As a strategy to expand the Church, it makes no sense. However, what if the little psychopath is actually trying to drive the Church into non-existence and he will then be left with $billions in real estate to do with as he pleases? That scenario fits all of the observable facts.
It’s a bit funny how the church is tottaly out of present time or as 99,99 percent of the world calls it Reality.
I was going to post more or less exactly what “brawleytj” posted so I won’t bother repeating it – a very good post with all the main points in it (of course one can add tons more but we’d be here all day).Yes, it seems as if “COB” has achieved his ultimate goal – the destruction of the Scientology Churches worldwide. I think we all knew what these results would be before Mike posted them but it is good to see the facts. Of course it is not “good” at all, it is an absolute disaster caused by COB’s insanities and the out-ethics dupes that still remain attached by some sort of thetan umbilical cord to this insanity. I believe though that most still “in” will quite rapidly change their tune and allegiance as soon as someone announces that he has been deposed or whatever happens to him in the future.It won’t be such a big deal as we might think. They will need some FDSing and all that (well, maybe quite a lot – ha!) but people soon change their tunes. All that rabid fanaticism will simply slide off when these sort of people learn from an “authority” – whoever that is going to be, that after all DM was a raving nutcase.
What will you do if the Curch of Scientology is no longer a factor in your life ?
Plenty. But it always will be. What is the point of the question?
Just intrested in your answer , thank you.
Oh! I see! This is some sort of little 1.1 trolling game you’ve got going on because you’ve got some sort of bee in your bonnet about Scientology, or not? How silly of me not to realize this eh?
Sorry, the photos aren’t coming out right.
There’s somebody else in Philly? Wow, drop me an email sometime. rodkeller8008@gmail.com or on Facebook. Google will tell you I’m not OSA in case you’re anxious about that kind of thing. We can do lunch.
This is how the IO is supposed to look.
<img src="http://www.philadelphiaideal.org/img/Full_Exterior_Night.jpg"
It’s a hard building to photograph, being tall and very narrow, with buildings across the street. Metal roll-down grates are the main impression from the sidewalk.
Hi Rod, There are more in Philly awake and watching than you know…
Philly is in a building currently that’s approx 10k sq ft of useable delivery space with a full basement that had 1/3 of it finished off for backlines work. in 2007 the isteal an org building a few blocks away more than 9x’s the sq ft.
I left as Snr C/S in early ’08. One day I may tell the story as it’s my own microcosm of the bigger picture of suppression that I discovered a year and a half later…but suffice it to say that a Snr C/S making clears for the first time in decades threw myself in front of the isteal- an-org train that was trying to force the purchase of a completely inaccessible acreage with unuseable buildings in the countryside of Villanova over 20 miles outside of Center City. This LRH-policy defending behavior was one of my bad indicators that far outweighed making Clears and building an org that actually had life again from the 7 full-time staff and 4 part-timers to a high of 45 staff. So the hammer fell and yet as could be predicted by all of my friends who knew me it did NOT kill me but served as the final in a series of steps toward waking-up that enabled me to see what has really been going on for my long-term career on staff.
One of many who have contacted me since I left was in the org two years ago and commented to a Sea Org member that the org was doing terribly. She asked him if he knew me and he said of course…she said well you see that org now? that’s her work…mind you I’d been forced out 3 years prior to that conversation he told me about.
The Sea Org is nothing but cob’s Pinocchio. Despite the fact that there are good people in the S.O. there is VERY little self-determinism – the fixed ideas, use of black PR, generalizations, rumors, fear and tolerance of high crimes to the tech and policy, to people – they are each one through desperation to preserve their own small sphere of influence so they don’t get RPFed as useful today as hemlock is to quench ones thirst. How hard it will be for their futures to see what they’ve been party to.
It sucks to be Miscavige yes but it sucks to be a sea org member and even more it sucks to be a Class V staff member who is not able to stand up and stop the madness so much more easily seen when not infected by the group bank survival-think within the S.O. To any former S.O. members who didn’t sell out this is not about you it’s about those who did and still are doing it. They can stroke themselves all they want about being the most dedicated but when you consider what the purpose of the S.O. was per LRH and look at where we are today I think the condition is quite obvious.
cob hasn’t perpetrated this crime alone – he had a lot of help and this news about my org hits close to home causing me to revisit the incidences of suppression, complacency and tacit consent for the destruction of scn from within by those I thought were the white hats…at least I don’t need triage any longer. I survived it to audit, C/S and train another day. That’s helped shatter the suppression I lived under.
BAMM!!!
Well, if anybody wants to have lunch in Philly, maybe we can do the Reading Terminal, right down the street from the org. It would have been funny to have a Villanova org.
I want to have lunch in Philly!
You left out the most important factor re: the Lancaster Mission/PO Box ….. Is it an IDEAL PO Box?
Cat Daddy, thanks, I’m familiar with the basic purpose of the NOI and have no problem with it, and I can definitely see beyond the racist talk. My issue is that they are being ORDERED to do Dianetics, and then, afterwards, presumably, Scientology, and how can the tech work on someone who isn’t studying these on their own determinism? You see?
Special Request:
Somebody please report on Washington DC org. I’m led to believe that this is one org that was actually having some success a few years ag when they opened their new building. Any new info would be appreciated.
I can’t post anything on it because it will be Entheta to you all , but yes some succes, they are luring in Nation of Islam people
Sounds like any org in the vicinity of substantial NOI public has a chance to be successful, for a while, at least, as it is – correct me if I’m wrong – mandatory now for NOI Members to become Dianetic auditors. Perhaps Harlem org, if it ever opens, will get some action and traction because of the heavy concentration of NOI in that area
It must be some comfort to Him to know that there are at least some dependable public waiting to be serviced in one of his new buildings, even if they are ordered to do be there. “Ordered to do be there”…I just made myself shudder. Can you just imagine? Jesus.
https://www.mikerindersblog.org/breaking-news-its-official-the-nation-of-islam-and-church-of-scientology-are-one/
See past this african American’s racism. It is actually what the Nation of Islam was build on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7dBIfOsB5I
Did you see Dancing with the Stars on Mon? Leah talked about Scn briefly. She said that the members of the church want her to fail on the show because they can then say, “See what happens when you leave the church? You fail.” I was surprised they aired that bit of anti corporate Scn church on the show but they did. And after her dance she got a standing ovation, probably cuz everyone so empathizes with the hell she is going through regarding the church. Please watch the show on Mondays and vote multiple times for Leah so that she can win and show DM that people thrive when they leave. When Kirsty was on the show, she had the whole church voting for her “command intention and all that.” Let’s rally around Leah by voting for her.
Will do, Jane Doe. Leah’s got my vote(s).
Hey guys. I keep saying this and this well done article by Mike and the contributors makes me want to say this again.
I feel strongly that little Caligula is allowing these buildings to go into disrepair and allowing the orgs to fail so he can take these properties and cash them out, all at the donators’ expense. Yes, these grand openings stroked his ego and made him look like the brilliant leader he is not, but they serve a dual purpose, as I see it.
Buy the buildings with OPM (Other People’s Money). Spend more of their money renovating said building, raising the value of the real estate. When the time is right and no one is looking, SELL the real estate to put the money in the IAS coffers, aka: the DM slush fund.
Shake it all up together like a good martini and “viola!” What do you have? Traveling money to get the hell out of Dodge.
If someone in the church is reading this and you don’t want to be party to one of the biggest real estate swindles in the 21st century, I would like to respectfully suggest that you follow the money and find out who gets those millions of dollars if the buildings are sold. Should be easy enough. San Diego’s was already sold. Where did those dollars go?
Let us know when you find out and you decide to leave DM too. We’ll be here to help you.
Make sure to do like Ron says in Simon Boulivar – the part about what to do when you leave a post so you leave it safely. Just sayin’ – talkin’ policy here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjTuAV036yY
Reminds me of the cult these days.
LOL, I Actually laughed out loud. How about this song depicting the Human condition and The Freewinds without ever hearing of the failboat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_BoAXopS54
Well I got through the US Orgs & Missions and Canada and by then went into a deep depression. Jesus H Christ. I can vouch for the Bay Area idleness. I don’t for the life of me know how few current staff are hanging on… what are they hanging on to?
If this reporting doesn’t wake anyone up they’re in a coma.
Call me lord Buzz Kill , But,
Of the fundamental laws of economics
there is the Law of Deminishing returns
Basically once you pass that that point
no matter what you do you are toast.
Looks like jelly side landed down here.
Namaste, Could you eleborate on your post, i like to communicate with you.
Cat Daddy,
Law of Diminishing marginal returns applies to all businesses large or small
whether it Tax exempt or for profit. Even Hookers have to keep a balance sheet to stay solvent.
Look at Scientology as a miniature garden in your kitchen window sill. A teaspoon full of fertilizer makes everything grow nicely with a cup of water. Now dump five pounds of fertilizer on everything and don’t water it. Everything in the mini garden dies.
Same with Ideal org program, the fertilizer is the lavish buildings the water is the people
and the people AKA public don’t own their investment they are helpless to deliver any VFP so overloaded with a monolith that sucks the life out of their business economy.
Akin to a crack whore consuming all her profits in crack , unable to purchase food and eat or say new whore clothes her desirability as a viable commodity crashes to zero.
Law of diminishing marginal return.
Wow, your degrading of a crack whore actually reminds me of my posting days on 4chan. It’s accurate tough but depicts such a person as MEST
Scientology teachings lacks compassion. Granting beingness is just that granting beingness if you choose it.
Has anyone heard whether Miscavige was at Flag Graduation last Friday? Over at Tony’s there are rumors and speculations aplenty. One solid datum that would be good to have is whether Davey is still holding court in Clearwater.
These are pure facts, NO PR. Evidence, we may say. I hope Pinocchio Pouw reads it and comes to her senses re her lies on PR lines. No, never work and never will. And DM’s rage is probably going “straight up and vertical” once he sees this. Oh, but of course, is somebody else’s fault, it has nothing to do with him…
Hi Dani Lemberger,
I know Vivi Cohen. She audited me on FPRD, one of the best actions I ever did. Missed many sessions because of persistent F/N and/or ext. I’d love to pass your love and wishes to her but have no idea how to contact her. Or if she’d talk to a
FZer/Indie person. She will always have a special place in my heart 🙂
Good reporting. I wondered if there was an Org in my area and thankfully there isn’t. There is one in D.C. I’ll have to drive down there and take pictures and email them to you.
Vinaire, its theoretically possible, but not, I believe, under the current management of David Miscavige. But sure, things can turn around in the Church of Scientology after he is gone. There is some policy that would have to be thrown out, like Disconnection and Fair Game, but I take a long view of things and believe its possible.
Look, Christianity was founded on Jesus Christ, who said, “A soft answer turneth away wrath”, “You are your brother’s keeper”, and “Love thine enemies”. Christianity started out as a kind and gentle and caring philosophy, a non-materialistic philosophy, replacing the “eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth” philosophy that people had been operating on for millenia. It was actually quite revolutionary. So what happened? Well, the philosophy became a religion, and a thousand years later we had the Crusades and then they started burning and torturing people who were considered heretics. What did this have to do with the original philosophy of Christianity? And if you don’t believe that Jesus existed, that’s fine, but then, SOMEONE put forth these revolutionary datums about caring and loving others as oneself.SOMEONE dreamed up this stuff, so if it wasn’t Jesus, it was somebody, you know?
Any religion can go very far afield from its fundamental core philosophy. Look at the Salem witch trials in this country – these people were nuts. Where are the Puritans today? I haven’t seen any around. Point being, no religion which does not have compassion for human frailty, which does not truly care andoffer help and succor and a safe space – no religion like this, is going to last. Its just a matter of time before word gets around and people withdraw their support. You can control people with anger and fear but its just a matter of time before they leave if there is no love or caring.
Scientology’s strategy is to acquire as much real estate as possible for now, because that is the foundation for longevity. Other things can be addressed later.
So, things seem to be looking good for Scientology!
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Vinaire, acquiring as much real estate as possible was also the Roman Catholic Church’s strategy for expansion back in the day, which is why priests were not allowed to marry, so that the Church would inherit their land and money when they died. The Church also sold indulgences to wealthy noblemen, and many lives were dedicated to constructing their vast, imposing and ornate cathedrals. At the very height of this expansion of square footage, etc., along came Martin Luther and the Reformation, and shortly afterward England, via Henry the VIII, broke with Rome.
For a thousand years the Roman Catholic Church had been the only Christian religion in Europe; it had accumulated vast real estate holdings, buildings of the highest quality materials, crafted by the very best artisans, filled with incredible works of art – it was an extremely rich organization with a total monopoly on the population. And yet, it started to hemhorrage people. Protestantism caught fire and spread from England to the rest of Europe. Something had been planted, mentally. These people were PROTESTING something about Catholicism, and this protest had legs and it spread to America, and America became a largely and dominantly Protestant country. Why? Frankly, I don’t know as I haven’t researched this very deeply. But it is apparent that, even after a thousand year religious monopoly in Europe, and even with all of its land, money and power, the Church of Rome still lost a great many people.
This is not an argument for or against Catholicism of Protestantism, btw. Its just interesting to me what drives people into, and out of, a religion. I personally do not believe that land and mest or even fear of punishment are enough to hold people in a religion, because when you come right down to it, religion addresses the spirit, not the body, and where the spirit goes, the body is sooner or later bound to follow.
So I don’t agree with the Church of Scientology’s strategy of acquiring land and mest as much as possible now, and worrying about the rest later.
The Catholic Church is still there, still owning most of its real estate. That is a fact.
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Its definitely still there, no argument. What I’m wondering about is what keeps it there? I personally do not think it is their Mest that has kept them there.
I think they still exist despite strong competition from other religions because they toned down and became kinder and gentler, more helpful and tolerant, and they began using their Mest and resources to actually feed, clothe, and house people, to truly help 3rd World countries, to take care of orphans, disabled war veterans – stuff like that. They reversed what was formerly their flow of “must be contributed to” and started outflowing their enormous wealth in very tangible ways – giving, for real, with no strings – food, clothing, housing, medicine. For whatever it is worth, that’s my opinion of why the Catholic Church is still here, .
Maybe the Church of Scientology could turn around too after acquiring enough wealth.
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Lots of updates!
I have recent updates re London Org which I’ll post later.
I’d like to comment on some posts on previous thread my computer
wouldn’t work with. I think all by ” Silent Watcher”.
You praise OT 8 George Baillie. Why?
He demonstrated the antithesis of Scn philosophy. ARC=U and the granting
of beingness. And reversed them. Without these Scn will die and the
FZ/Independents will find it harder to preserve the philosophy when that
which is percieved as scn is presented by the likes of George Baillie and DM.
I have to be very carefull to not invoke Godwin’s law here!!
You castigate Cat Daddy. He’s a good friend. Gave him a couple of Scn books,
and he read them and much more. Like me he is not fond of CO$ abuse.
You want to speak to someone in the UK I’m at 0208 864 4940.
I defend auditing, but it’s hard to do. Auditing has a two way potential: It can fuck you up or help you depending of the intention of the Auditor or even the intention of the group.
No need to post if this is a duplicate:
Apparently the CoS is not a good neighbor in Battle Creek, MI
http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/article/20130920/OPINION02/309200032/Jim-Hettinger-Churches-make-break-downtown?gcheck=1
I can do you one better: number 1 of 2 clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edLjsQF5kwY
Wow, what an unbelievably avoidable black eye for the locals…come on, you don’t need orders to keep your building in good repair. It’s telling of where the tone level has dropped to of those still there. Sad. So sad that no one on the local level sees the need to do anything about it.
Battle Creek is too small for Der Fuhreur’s attention. He’s focused totally on Texas and his coming debacle there! LOL Sweat, Little Guy, Sweat!!!
Sorry – the full link is http://vote-e.abc.go.com/shows/dancing-with-the-stars/vote/season-17 to vote online for Leah and Tony tonight. 🙂
Thanks. Voting was still open this morning. Go Leah!!!
Scientology’s new leader: Leah Remini, Heey david miscavige ask Leah where your balls are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=adGPxRYI8S8
Sorry to interrupt but someone just reported that, in a snippet before Dancing with the Stars, Leah says, “I have to do well because my church wants me to fail.” Oh yeah? We’re behind ya, gal!
Please vote for Leah and Tony:
1-800-868-3411
You can call it 12 times PER phone line!
(Thanks for the number, Dodo the Laser)
And here’s the link to the online voting too. You can vote 11 times online and then 12 times PER phone line. 🙂 West Coast peeps can vote online now but have to wait til 8pm Pacific time to vote on the phone. Here we come, Leah! http://vote-e.abc.go.com/shows…
If you don’t want to use your Facebook or Twitter account to vote, just sign in directly with ABC.
Good show Sir !!!!!
I entered that ABC link and got an error message: http://cdn.media.abc.go.com/shows/dancing-with-the-stars/error.html 🙁
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7QOAUcqyYc
Hello Mike, HAPI in Edinburgh is well placed to attract people being right in the centre of the main tourist area ( 5 mins walk to the castle) and studentland also. South Bridge area is a main artery for the city and on any given day the pavements are heavily crowded from 0800 to long past midnight. Directly opposite is a common area full of beggars, street drinkers and self medicators, buskers and several three legged dogs. In the fifteen years I have worked nearby I have never once seen anyone either enter or exit the building, it’s the one doorway in the city that is always quiet.
Well, it’s a good thing nobody comes in. Otherwise David the Short would make them find a more ‘Ideal’ building in some remote industrial section of the city with no foot traffic, and then the local field would be hammered on until they coughed up enough money to buy it. Oh, and then hammered on some more for the renovations, which it would need lots of.
My email adress is mailmartens@home.nl, even Jim Logan had a comm with me that way, trufax(Anon speak for it being the thruth)
It couldn’t happen to a more deserving “religion”.
Well done, Miscavige. What a legacy!
David Miscavige is such a ridiculous person by now I hope I can post this, if not I fully understand and will not see it pop up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRDBu2tSNsc
ROTFLMAO! Dave, your a dick!
If you entertain that notion here is another gem for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRvm0PfayR8
Fantastic! Thanks for posting that Cat D. I’m amazed I haven’t run into this video til now. Needs to be reposted with better tags for wider distribution, ne dissemination!
Evil can not stand light being shined upon it. It goes poof. But you need to be in PRESENT TIME and ABLE TO CONFRONT things. That is alsoo valid for the current American condition:
I like this speach of Hubbard, not all of his deeds, He has the biggest Service Facsimili on Psychatrists tough. nuff said on that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf4gHpK4HSM
Jeez Louise! I don’t even want to go inside a Church of Scientology, and this tour depresses me! Just imagine how all the poor local parishioners in debt up to their eyeballs must feel. But, as everyone is told, “all the other orgs are booming” — it must be YOUR org’s fault.
Maybe this ED’s conference down in Florida will actually do some good. 😉
Mike: You’re killing ’em with this stuff, actual information exposing the specifics of the BIG LIE. Hopefully, you’ll build a large folder of these stores and make them available to the media. One would think they’d love it. Keep on keeping on, m’friend. Fabulous job.
Also a striking picture that characterized the current situation : http://www.sam-shepard.com/deadhorse10x.jpg
And what a fine and inspired choice of photo to place at the start of the article! It’s these little details that make all the difference. Mike, you’re an artist as well as an apostate.
Wow. Winnipeg has about 3 staff and they bought this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/christiansphotos/4333400113/
The upside is, that they set several Highest Evers with this:
Highest Ever Square Footage Per Staff Member (a few thousand each)
Highest Ever Building Cost Per Staff Member (including renos, about 4M/staff)
Highest Ever Number of Floors Per Staff Member (2)
… and probably a bunch more.
Maybe they will need a tent in Winnipeg too, to accommodate the dozens of people who attend Miscavige (R) International Events.
Miles driven to the Org-AO without being late for Course because you agreed with the CI of bumper to bumper traffic then having to go to Ethics.
Great reporting Mike,.
Even if the cars seen were carpooling or better yet
one of those Circus mini coopers that 35 clowns pile out of
it’s still a long, long way from 10 million bodies in the shop.
Mike, I feel like I’ve just been given a studio tour thru “War of the Worlds” after the battle scenes. I was on staff most of the time from 1970-2001. In the 60-70’s, most Orgswere CROWDED with posted and hatted staff, and throngs of public who were training or getting audited. People were happy to be there as they got real gains from training, auditing and they knew they were actually helping others. Most Orgs and Missions were continuously expanding by following a few basic PL’s and using tech standardly. They certainly weren’t fancy but they were self-sustaining and getting viable. The condition of these current “Orgs” is so far from what LRH had in mind it’s clear there has been a continual and complex effort to undermine LRH policy and tech, with the purpose of keeping all people from going upwards in standard Scientology.
Current SO management has eliminated or altered basic policy and tech; forced staff and staff into outrageous financial positions, curtailed delivery, and is out-exchange. I feel for the staff in the places you’ve shown us as they are still trying to get people up the Bridge- apparently without being hatted, or knowing how thorough the sabotage has been.
+1 eye witness to that too, Brawleytj
Denver Org sells parking spaces to attendees of the nearby Colorado Rockies baseball team. As there is no stat for # of parking spaces rented, they give each parking parishioner a free book which is counted on the GBS and Books to Raw Public stats. Yes, this is true.
Amazing!
Another maxim of Scientology orgs: Where there is a stat, there is a manipulation. And it’s corollary: Every stat will be falsified (in keeping with the example set by Dear Leader).
That is the thing you have to appreciate about the registrars (Not beggars, I mean people that actually register someone for a service). There is no way to false report your stats. Money, sign up or resigns. You are in the hot seat 27/7 knowing everyone else is depending on you for food, shelter, new starts so they can get their stats up. And what does David do? He replaces the registrars in the Orgs and Missions with video machines in the div 6 area! Featuring Tom Cruise! Another “bright idea” totally off policy that bleeds through all the lines and effects everyone in the Church! Wild stupidity!
At this stage I wouldn’t be surprised if those under the radar still show up once in great awhile or give some straight cash donations so they don’t appear on the fringe or disaffected for risk of losing their 3D connections. Buying off threats and suppression. How many have changed their cell phone numbers? Keep land lines with answering machines to screen calls from local org and IAS? What a pressure cooker as the insanity rises under these conditions. So glad I went to the “other side” where non of that insanity exists and people can pursue actual training and auditing without the cult additives.
I remember a time when I did not pick up the phone at all, because of all the many harassing calls. I always felt suppressed about it (there was no way to discuss my feelings), but in fact it never came up in any auditing session … phew
😉
Mike, you are freaking amazing to have collected all this and put it in one place. It is fun to be one of the special correspondents and thanks for posting my report.
This should be sent out to everyone! As many have said, so often you are made to feel only your org or mission is dead. You feel like you are doing something wrong or are made to feel out-ethics because your area doesn’t look like the bustling locations shown at events.
This would help someone get the correct indication, right?
BTW, went to see the America’s Cup race recently and your mates from Australia who make up most of the American sailing team are coming from behind to give New Zealand a run for it.
I had a look at the Toronto Org on Friday. I don’t see any obvious changes other than segments falling off the non-functional advertising sign. There’s no sign of dumpsters needed for an internal tear-down of the building.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h233/RogerRamdrive/006_zps7a077689.jpg~original
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h233/RogerRamdrive/003_zps18d13b44.jpg~original
Wow, Contraction for sure!!!!!!! I would say the word is out!!!
The Church of Scientology in Frankfurt, Germany is celebrating its 40 years anniversary. They won’t survive another 40. Here’s a fresh image from a dark dirty alley behind the central station. The door sign is printed on a paper attached with gaffa tape. And the entrance looks like a corpse cooler (feel free to copy and embed the image in this article):
http://anetteiren.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/scientology_frankfurt_germany.jpg
And we have already covered the meltdown in Oslo, Norway:
https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologys-norwegian-shrinkage/
Thanks Anette. Added Frankfurt to the list.
The entry looks like it used to be a night club in the past, especially considering your description of its location.
If it’s behind the Hauptbahnhof, it probably was. As a US Army servicemember stationed in Frankfurt 25 years ago, I was quite familiar with the area. Any straight up and vertical expansion there is due to legal prostitution, not Scientology.
The former Frankfurt Org building was a three story super glass palace. (I don’t how long they needed to pay for the rent backlog after moving, it was huge). Now the building is rented to 6 or 8 different companies, thats how big it is, and it was always full! The space was needed. That again was said to have been a decline from the former (pre-financepolice) mission times, that I didn’t see. The pathetic place in the red light district that you see in the foto is really a sorry state of affairs. When you enter, you have to go up to the second floor (Div6, E/O, ED, Bookstore etc) or 4th. The place is kind of oldfashioned. Last time I was in, I saw about 6 or 7 staff and 3 or 4 publics. That was about 4 years ago. It has more traffic in the streets than the old building, but the guys hanging around there aren’t precisely looking for the spiritual kind of “service”…
Great report, Mike. Thanks to all the guys who sent in photos and info.
Mike here is my photo timeline of the Chicago Ideal Org
http://www.flickr.com/photos/truthrevealed/sets/72157629826806121/
I can verify that the only movement in the Chicago Idle Morgue over the last five and a half years has been caused by rats and roaches. I drive by on occasion, and it just keeps decaying. Meanwhile, on Lincoln, I don’t think the window displays have changed in decades. Chicago also had a mission out near O’Hare that I believe is gone (Mike and Sindy can give us more info).
At least we know who the last one in who can turn off the lights will be in Chicago. I hoped against hope that Dominic would have blown by now, but he’s going to stay until the bitter end, I’m afraid.
Why did I say “Mike and Sindy”? It, of course, is Dave and Sindy. Sorry for marrying you off to one of the many Mikes here, Sindy.
Now I want to know, who are you Espiando?
Just one of your friendly Chicago Anons of 2008 vintage, Dave, one of the guys in the masks out to enturbulate. That’s why you and Sindy are my favorite SPs.
http://youtu.be/eKrOF3Wje40
I am going to praise you wheter you like it or not. good Show Sir, carry on.
Great reporting Mike, if you are done with your current Job you can be a reporter if you postulate it. What an amount of work.
Do you mind me posting it around the Message boards ?
Niels — no problem. Anything that appears on this blog is public information. But I appreciate your courtesy in asking.
Thanks to my Ser Faccy Mother 😉 who put some self determinism in me and descency, Sometimes I forget tough.
Being Clear or being an Operating Thetan is just being yourself, Go on the internet.
We are all the same, no hiarchy, it is not scary or makes you a degrading being.
“Freedom is for honest people. No man who is not himself honest can be free – he is his own trap.”
L. Ron Hubbard
Laughter!
Listen to him, in essence being yourself and investigating things for yourself and being connected to people is the way to happiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kd1GwRiFNU