I happened upon the STAAD League “dead agent” propaganda about scientology Fair Game.
I thought it might be useful to address it with the real truth.
Let’s start with what Hubbard ACTUALLY said about Fair Game.
Here is the oft quoted 1967 policy letter that lays out the “may be deprived of property or injured by any means… May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.” 
But there were earlier references to Fair Game in policies of 1965:
And this which declares the “homes, property, places and abodes” are “beyond the protection of Scientology Ethics.”
And this issue gave specific orders to harass individuals declared Fair Game:
Hubbard’s intent is unmistakable. He wanted his followers to understand that those who had been denominated as “enemies” of scientology (Suppressive Persons) should be harassed or harmed by scientologists with the full blessing of the organization and Hubbard himself.
In 1968 he issued “Exec Letters” and notices in The Auditor magazine declaring certain individuals Fair Game. This took a step beyond previous admonitions to act and ordered Sea Org members to use “Process R2-45” on them:
Process R2-45 is described in Hubbard’s book Creation of Human Ability in this way:
R2-45: AN ENORMOUSLY EFFECTIVE PROCESS FOR EXTERIORIZATION BUT ITS USE IS FROWNED UPON BY THIS SOCIETY AT THIS TIME
Here is a short excerpt from one of Hubbard’s lectures which makes clear that this refers to the use of a .45 pistol to “exteriorize” a thetan from a body:
And you will note the imperative “is to use”. No “could”, “might” or “may.”
Following media coverage of this practice, Hubbard issued his “cancellation” of the “term.”
Note, it makes clear that the “treatment or handling of an SP” is NOT changed.
It is a typical Hubbard “PR ruse” that he thought would fool the “wogs” — we will continue to do the same thing, but we will no longer use those two words. Even though those two words describe the practice we will continue to use, we will not call it that. Hey presto, we are no longer guilty.
If Hubbard had written policies that told his followers to “Sucker Punch” enemies — sneak up and hit them in the face and they would not be punished for doing so and then “canceled” the use of the term sucker punch but “don’t change how we treat our enemies” — would sneaking up and punching them in the face still be “sucker punching” them? Of course it would.
For further detail on the policies of Hubbard (which have NOT and never will be canceled or changed) about how to deal with “enemies” of scientology, see here Dealing with Critics of Scientology — the L. Ron Hubbard Playbook.
Now, let’s take a look at how the STAAD League attempts to spin this on their FAQ page:
You can see how the bs is piled high here. It was “misinterpreted and misused by opponents” and “it never had the meaning they tried to assign to it”. Hold on a second Eddie — it was L. Ron Hubbard who assigned it the PRECISE meaning he intended. No interpretation required.
This is another of the scientology tricks — pull out a quote that “proves” they would never do anything illegal because “Hubbard says so.” But Hubbard was the one that wrote all the policies about destroying enemies and getting even and investigating people. It was his wife and those other senior officials who went to prison for doing things that were illegal.
This would be like the Catholic Church saying “hey, we don’t have pedophile priests because the bible says to be good and not be a pedophile.”
Hubbard was a master of this. Writing something opposite as an escape hatch. The same guy who railed against governments repeatedly also said to support them in WTH. “The work was free, keep it so” and “Free service free fall”. “What is greatness” is “loving your enemies” but “I always even the score” and “ruin them utterly if possible.” This list is interminable. It is also convenient for apologists to use as an excuse when confronted with ugly truths.
And here we go again — selectively quoting from the policy about the fact that these people were outside the “protection” of scientology ethics, while omitting that it said what scientologists COULD do to them and not be subjected to the penalties usually enforced. And in fact, what scientologists SHOULD do to them…
And then the hugest lie of all — Hubbard canceled the use of the term and thus “the term immediately ceased to have any meaning or use” — yeah, just like “sucker punching”…
Oh wow, there it is — the ultimate proof: Hubbard had to sign a declaration in an effort to avoid prosecution of himself that everyone had “misinterpreted” what he said. You can make up your own mind as to what he said and how it may have been misinterpreted by reading his words above. Those ARE his words. And they certainly DID “authorize illegal or harassment type acts against anyone.” This was just another “PR ruse” for the wogs because the 1968 “cancellation” had not fooled them.
The practice of Fair Game is alive and well in scientology. All one has to do is look at the website THIS document comes from! It is primarily devoted to vicious harassment of “enemies” of scientology.
The irony of that is lost on Fast Eddie and scientology.
I had the radio on in my car and heard part of a program — “Outlook,” I think — on The BBC World Service where a former Scientologist was being interviewed. I found a short article about him covering the bare bones of that interview at the URL below and thought you would enjoy knowing that some of the LRH BS is being talked about on mainstream media.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/feb/26/experience-i-was-in-a-scientology-jazz-band
Thanks. Yes that’s Neil Sarfarti
Dear Mike and Leah,
My name is Tracey and I live in Long Beach, CA. Thank you so much for your commitment and strength. You have both been through so much, and now you are giving so much to others. I watched SCN, the Aftermath and listen to your weekly podcast.
My sister, Laurie has been in the Sea Org since the 70’s and my niece was born into it. Laurie was on the Apollo with LRH and has been at FLAG since it began. We talk about once a month amd also email.
I value your desire to share the Truth. On your podcast of Tuesday, 12/22, you were discussing SCN’s dealing with COVID. I am compelled to address this. At least at FLAG, they are taking it very seriously. They have the protocols in place of daily temp taking, social distancing and mask wearing for all public and staff. The public eats in the restaurants at limited capacity. The 2000+ staff are on 5 meal shifts, so that the dining rooms are not crowded and they are apart from each other. The holiday parties were changed, so that the number of people were limited in each one. I have not gotten the impression from my conversations that people “pull this in if they’ve done something wrong”. We have each spoken about how wierd the virus is and how different it is from anything else.
I just wanted to share this, so that people who listen get the story from someone who is still with SCN.
Mike and Leah, any thoughts or acknowledgements on this info would be much appreciated, if you have the time.
Happy New Year, everyone!
Thanks for taking the time to write Tracey. I know your sister well.
I am pleased to hear they are doing things this way at Flag. Any accurate information about scientology is welcome here.
It is not surprising to me at this point as Miscavige has been there for a couple of months now. ANd he is paranoid about everyone around him taking precautions not to make him ill.
Though earlier, when they SAID they were following protocols, there were videos of SO members getting off the crowded buses without masks or any social distancing.
If all the information you are getting is from Laurie, some of it is likely “good roads, fair weather.”
If you are able to talk to her, I hope you posting this comment doesnt result in negative repercussions for you.
Do you know of support group for people who have been targeted by Scientology’s “fair game”?
That dear Edward didn’t bother to use any of the ACTUAL words of Hubbard or the policy letters to explain away the “misinterpretation” of the words says it all. He couldn’t. He would have been exposed as a liar, bullsh*t artist, a rebel without a clue. Can’t have that. So he stayed true to another part of the policy which is to lie, crossing his fingers that the majority of folks won’t look any farther. It’s too bad that information such as the policy’s, Hubbards letters, first person witness testimonies, and the like are so easy to find now thanks to the internet. It’s getting more and more difficult to keep a good con down. The truly frightening part of it is however, that to keep this con going they will have to segregate themselves at some point which makes the Clearwater “takeover/buyout” scary. It becomes an all scn town, and they get to build their fortress of solitude to enforce the lifestyle on the willing and not so willing. As long as scn remains scattered they are vunerable to losing members to the truth.
Hey Ed! Thanks for playing! Your article was a good Jr. High School attempt at getting around the truth, but not up to par for a real thinking person. Good luck next time.
The Scientology Fair Game internet hate sites usually called “Whois..com” continue to exist, citing rumors and untruths and half-truths without regard for any pain and suffering that might be caused by the comments. People who have such Scientology hate sites directed against them (and pretending to be “the truth”) include: Valeska Paris, Marc Headley, Mike Rinder, Amy Scobee, Tom DeVocht, Jeff Hawkins, and Aaron Smith-Levin. There are others; Nathan Rich comes to mind. Most of these are former members of long standing, known as valuable assets to Scientology – until the day they could take no more and turned their backs on it. Then they became people with evil intent from day one. Hmmm, how could that be?
I am re-reading Messiah or Madman by Russell Miller right now. It is interesting how well-liked Hubbard the man and his writings about Dianetics and Scientology were to many people who knew him personally, up until a big change that happened in 1965. He was reeling from the Anderson Report in Australia and other criticisms. With apparently a lot of help from Mary Sue he introduced his perverted punishment system called Ethics. It was really all downhill from there; the good times were all over, just the husks were left, people searching for that exteriorization and perfect memory and such. The idea of saving the planet… who the heck knows how that got started. But Hubbard invented a ‘complete cosmology’, I think is how Miller stated it, which of course is what Hubbard’s fabulist s-f imagination helped him with.
I doubt if Parkin would have lasted a day, back in the happy-go-lucky 1950s, except as someone to keep lists of attendees and validate parking passes.
As for Foolproof, the only person he is fooling is himself. He still thinks Hubbard did “research” – and got it right!
Research! Holding tomato cans and watching a super-sensitive galvanometer whilst thinking about Stuff – and noting every twitch of the needle to determine which of his great thoughts were the greatest! Ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha oh my side hurts. No wonder all reputable organizations kicked him and his “research” to the curb without a second thought.
You haven’t got a clue what you are talking about. Ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha oh my side hurts.
*yawn*
You should’ve added a few more ‘ha ha’s’ for effect.
L Ron Hubbard being a congenital liar has created that trait in his student’s.
Every now and again I formulate a simple argument to tell people to stay away from Scientology.
The term which always comes up to encapsulate my argument:
Scientology is dangerously deceptive.
Scientology as a group deceives with the ease of a snake oil salesman.
Just wanted to add the whole PR policy of “acceptable truth” which we all learned as Scientologists. Now a days Scientologists try to pretend they are not involved with Scientology. The cults reputation is so bad now it’s not survival to be associated with Hubbard’s fake church.
I wonder whether the material explaining Scientology’s position on what Fair Game meant has been brought to the attention of the Garcias, as it would seem to have some bearing on their case. If it’s the Church’s stated position that an ex-member has no recourse to Scientology justice procedures and should instead avail themselves of secular courts as needed, how, when brought into court by two ex-members, can they reasonably argue for motions to compel arbitration by means of those justice procedures that their own policy states are unavailable to them?
Yes!!! Exactly!
What would be your advice for someone experiencing depression and suicidal inclinations subsequent to their involvement in Scientology?
Seeks help. Find help with a counselor who preferably understands scientology or cult mentality. Call or message those health care professionals that understand this arena and if they can’t help either via phone, Skype or one on one, then see if they can refer you to someone who can.
If whoever this is for doesn’t want help from the mental health arena, look for what areas in life might help with getting out of the depression or suicidal thoughts, such as meditation, a life coach, exercise, painting, or other hobbies, a really good friend to talk to, etc. or all of the above.
Please contact Rachel Bernstein. Her website: http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com.
She is wonderful.
Thank you both!
Ex Scientologists amaze me. Many had no higher education but are incredibly intelligent . Capable of presenting data to the public in an organized way thru speech and print. Others are have incredibly creative minds and hands.
I’ve heard almost all of them say they had no skills in which to enter the real world with and that was a fear that kept them in. Yet I find that to be way off base. Many introduced on the Aftermath show displayed incredible intelligence and resilience.
That was the REAL reason for Fairgame. Hubbard knew the only way to discredit such persons required utter ruin or else He would be utterly ruined.
What a sick fucker and lowlife L Ron Hubbard truly was.
It’s really too bad he didn’t live close to a set of busy railroad tracks for him to play on as a kid.
The same goes for that pint sized freak who took the cult over and replaced him when the POS croaked while holed up and hiding from authorities on some secret hideaway ranch.
Any a y’all lurking this thread that are in this cult all need to know one thing. It’s all bullshit, and if you don’t believe it then what’s happening to all your money and time? You’re being drained and sucked dry like a vampire victim.
Ed Parkin and the rest of the still-ins have NOTHING to say other than the lowest form of argument: DENIAL: DENY it ever happened, deny that he wrote was what is on the page, deny that the sky is blue or that water’s wet. denial is also the easiest form of LYING, which they excel at doing, until they forget which is the lie.
OK, I got my belly laughs for the day.
Let’s start with:
“the highly developed and equitable ecclesiastical and justice system”.
Oh really? I wonder if Luis Garcia, the only person who has ever been allowed to have a kangaroo court mediation based on this “highly developed…” would agree with that? Or how about Shelly Miscavage – where’s Shelly? Or how about any one of thousands of people who have escaped with nothing but the shirt on their back due to the draconian punishments meted out on them because they dared ask a question or looked wrong or whatever caprice hit the person who was out for them that day.
Come to think of it, Ed Parkin has that prisoner’s pallor in any photo I’ve seen of him. Perhaps he’s been subjected to some of that “highly developed and equitable ecclesiastical ethics and justice system” of which he speaks.
For that matter, I didn’t even know scientology existed until 1973. That would be FIVE YEARS after fair game was “cancelled” If Fair Game had in fact been cancelled, I should not have known it existed. I knew about it long before I got my training on TRL when I was in GO. (Greatest good and all that crap).
Fair game is what kept the old timers who escaped hidden for dozens of years. Fair game is why those of us who escaped in the early 1980s are only now becoming brave enough to open our mouths and join the chorus of others who are braver than us. I was positively TERRIFIED when my phone rang more than 30 years after I escaped when I was living in a State I had never lived in while in scientology and under a married name I did not have in scientology. with the telephone number listed only in my husband’s name, and someone said on my answering machine that they were calling for me from scientology. THAT is what fair game does to a person. It keeps them scared and hiding for years.
Now, that aside, my next belly laugh came with:
“Scientology beliefs firmly hold that the commission of crimes, dishonesties, or harmful acts against others represents the road to ruin…”
Bwa ha ha ha ha.
Then why oh why is there TRL (Training Routine Lie) where the person is DRILLED on how to convincingly lie to others? Yep, that was a thing I was trained on while in scientology. That was a thing I was so glad to leave behind when I left.
The “greatest good for the greatest number” policy adopted by scientology is the overarching belief. Greatest number always meaning whatever it takes to protect the mother church. You may lie to your spouse about how much money you donated as long as you donate, you may take children away from their mother against her wishes and put them in Sea Org because they are “helping the church”
If scientologists truly believe what he espoused above, they must also truly believe that they are all on the road to ruin because of the life they are forced to live to remain in good standing as a scientologist.
Phew, sorry, let me jump off my high horse now. That one got me wound up.
Mike, you seem to think that FOOLproof isn’t in scientology [I’ll never legitimize DM’s cult by calling it a church.] Nut he has never, to my knowledge, done anything but troll against the organization’s critics, albeit ineffectively
Scribe, your mocking of FOOLproof was fun, but far too literate for the FOOL.
Bill Straass:”For someone to seek refuge in Scn’s Justice system is like a Jew seeking refuge at Auschwitz.”
Nice turn of phrase, Bill
OSD:”Can someone tell me about being destroyed?”
Off the top of my head, the attempts to make Paulette Cooper crazy & the # of suits which pretty much bankrupted her, the fake hit-and-run against Gabe Cesares (CW Mayor), and the poor guy who gave Mike a JOB! Hubbard’s RPF and the other ‘ethics'[PUNISHMENTS]. All of those things are designed to break the targets of his ire, make them sue for peace at any cost.J
MarcAnon:”Come on Ed, you’re squirreling the tech.”
Marc, Davey’s so squirreled things, those still in can’t rightly KNOW what the real ‘tech’ is.
ksw is about protecting what Ron created and grew, not what’s left after Davey carved what he wanted out of that.
In my mind, DM’s cult ain’t scientology no more.
We need to compile a few proofs and return the favor.
Bill Straass:”For someone to seek refuge in Scn’s Justice system is like a Jew seeking refuge at Auschwitz.”
Good metaphor, Bill
Well you know, punishment is what Scientology does best. In many aspects. If you don’t go along with every point of “what is required of you”, and if you don’t drink the Kool Aid all of the time, there will be a punishment for you. I’ve mentioned before, that I was held prisoner and treated horribly for quite a while before I got out. (legal threats got me out). My crime… wanting to route out. Actually I wrote about it here the other day, I’ll post it again below. I’m the first one to admit there is some good, useful data in Scientology, that’s why so many good, smart people got in. But the bullshit so overwhelms this, that it’s just not worth it. A few good babies….and lots of really dirty, expensive bath water. Anyway, this is how I was treated after working my ass off for this cult:
I was held prisoner for several weeks. I was in the EPF, then was put in the RPF for basically no reason at all. (Long story). But then I wanted to route out of the RPF so they put me in the RPF’s RPF; which I refused to do so they then put me in the RPF’s RPF’s RPF. Really! I was held prisoner in the attic at the old Charlie Chaplin house, (Lake st?) then I was moved to the basement in the complex. My car keys were stolen from me, (I told Diane Marple not to drive my car as my insurance would not cover her; she did anyway) I was guarded 24 hours a day, barely fed. Mostly leftovers from the EPF and RPF breakfast. Cold eggs thrown on a paper plate once a day. I finally got out by threatening legal action. I told them I was going to call the cops. That got me out pretty quick. My mistake was that I decided to route out standardly. Yea, big mistake. Just sneak out and get the hell out of there when, and as quick as you can. Just know, that if you’re a Sea ORg member and you want out, you will be treated worse than a piece of shit. “How dare you want out!” And of course you will be the lowest priority, so you’ll basically be forgotten. Except for the guards who watch you.
You left out the most important part about doing “what is required of you”. “What is required of you” is a moving target, which changes by the minute. You may do something exactly the same way you did it an hour before and by then it will be deemed incorrect.
I also got suckered in by the logic in a lot of Scn. I now consider anything logical or effective in Scn has been taken from elsewhere. The only truly unique information is the mad ravings like OT III, which are worthless, and very specific admin details like the colours associated with divisions. Unique, but of no importance.
So people who lie, commit adultery (tellingly, Hubbard states this only about women), take drugs and are party to dishonest dealings “cut their own throat”, imperil their survival and deny themselves happiness.
After leading quite a busy life trying to fit all of these misdeeds in as often as possible, are Hubard’s own words meant to explain why his life ended in isolation, insanity and paranoia? Why he was asking for a suicide device to be built for him?
Haha! As Wynski has “summoned” me below from the depths of his reactive mind – I see we have a variation of the theme now, and by popular demand, appearing in a new branch and meeting of the literal minds of the Gleefully Misunderstood Club (club motto: “We only take things literally – it makes things much simpler and appeals to a wider audience!”)
So what you are implying (in your literal understanding of his words) is that Hubbard was saying that Scientologists should walk around and strike back at SPs with knuckledusters, coshes, cut-throat razors, .45 pistols (loaded and cocked of course) and whatever else one can think of! The simple fact of the matter – if it was true and acted upon – would have resulted in Scientologists being arrested by the police, and thrown into jail, even executed if they had literally carried out his “orders”! Now I am sure that LRH would not have wanted his students and PCs to be off lines even if they might have been delivering courses and auditing to the inmates at Sing Sing. Surely not eh? So fortunately for all concerned Scientologists do not generally take things literally. And in all my time in Scientology (quite a lot), I never saw one incidence of violence; some very minor harassment occasionally, but again only to those who had started harassing the Church and certainly nothing to write home about either, or compose an alarming article about. Actually I don’t recall even those incidences (but granted, it would be silly to say that Scientology is mild about such things).
Still, I suppose the article will again appeal to the literal-minded here, of which it seems there is a high percentage and the other percentage (dare I mention 2.5%) knows that this whole thing is much ado about nothing but will not admit it as they have some other agenda.
Hey if you ever grow the cojones to use your real name and stand up and criticize Scientology or Miscavige you may be on the receiving end of some of that “we don’t take it literally” Scientology Fair Game. There are plenty of people here who have been. You try to dismiss it all by saying “nobody has slit anyone’s throat” (and do nothing that HAS happened to people is valid).
You are so willfully blind you might as well be in the church.
Have you ever read the sentencing memorandum from the DC 9 case? Or the information about what was done to Paulette Cooper or Gabe Cazares? No knuckledusters so not real? Michael Meister wasn’t hit with a coach so putting him in handcuffs, gagging him and throwing him the back of a car to keep him from the FBI also didn’t happen? And this was the non-literal Scientologists just doing their own thing?
If you’re so convinced nothing will be done to you why not use your real name?
The others who post with pseudonyms here don’t share your view of the kind, gentle Scientology you are convinced of.
And others who post without pseudonyms particularly also don’t share your view of the kind gentle scientology you keep defending. And yeah, how about you growing some?!
I usually get this demand to post under my real name as some sort of lashing out when I post something unpalatable for the denizens here, over half of which are posting under pseudonyms with no request to them to do otherwise, no doubt because they are following the party line eh? What is the purpose of asking me? It can only be that your arguments are exposed as the hyperbole they are and you and the others here wish to find something on me that can be used ad hominem. Stands to er, “reason” eh?
As to the level and amount of violence you suggest above, if that is the best you can do from over 50 years of Scientology history then I suggest you go back to your agenda drawing board – there is more violence in a Philadelphia bar on a Monday night than the mammoth list of such you are using to try and convince others of your argument.
Wow, that was convincing.
The difference with you and the other people who post under fake names is self evident as I pointed out. You have nothing to fear from scientology – you assume the same stance as they do on virtually everything. You could have written the excuse for Fair Game for STAAD that they published with one of your “you take things literally and misinterpreted what Hubbard meant”.
I know what others fear – retribution from scientology. I also know the names of a large number of them.
You keep hiding with no apparent motive other than not to allow anyone to challenge your credibility as you pretend great knowledge and experience as the basis for many of your comments. But who knows what you really know…
You keep harping on about my use of pseudonym no doubt to deflect attention away from my rather simple message that I gave above and then cast the aspersion that I am “pretending” great knowledge. Now, I am not “pretending” anything, I don’t need to, but rather your comment implies then that what I have stated in my posts has a ring of truth in them – and I don’t sit and plan my retorts unlike many of the posters here probably do but state it as I see and saw the scenarios that you fairly regularly and “hyperbolically” (good word that eh?) present, due to my my long experience in Scientology and understanding of the tech and policy. It’s quite simple if one doesn’t have some other agenda – I simply state what I have observed and experienced in Orgs when you or others step over the line of reality with various statements that I know are not true. You will notice that I do sometimes support various comment on things which I consider inappropriate in the current Church.
So, if you can’t argue the argument then don’t bother trying to deflect attention away from it by a) diverting attention on to my use of a pseudonym and b) stating that I am “pretending” great knowledge. I do have a fair bit of knowledge, probably much more than most commenters posting here, but obviously much less than you as regards the total history of Scientology, granted. But that is neither here nor there with regard to the various arguments here. Someone states subject X is “black not white” or it is a “shade of grey”, if I saw it as white then I will simply state it without adding any little or big twist to the story. Unlike it seems you and many others posting here on various topics. Let me give a perfect example – Debbie Cook’s famous email – now I would never post any adverse comment about that – because it is the truth – as I see it and many others see it. But when I see some of the nonsense and hyperbole that is posted or presented as an article here I feel inclined to comment.
So it seems it is just as I said – you wish to know my real name so you can attack ad hominem and also deride my knowledge and by doing so again deflect away from my quite simple and straightforward observations.
TLDR
Should have written TIDR 😉 I for insane
Thanks for the TLDR heads up, Mike. I just skipped over it after the first sentence. I usually don’t make it that far in his ramblings TBH. I wonder if anyone actually reads his screeds.
LOL! Perfect.
You are the one who is stating that I think Scientology is “kind and gentle”. I never said that. What I said is (in other words) is that your article is exaggerated as we saw from the gargantuan list of “violence” you presented. But you hope now to “rope a few dopes” in making out that I did say so and thus subtly change the subject. And it seems to have worked as now your remark has indeed roped a few dopes and they now have had their attention diverted on to my pseudonym, instead of my original message. TR3 eh?
FOOL proof, Show ONE place in policy or other LRH publication which states NOT to take what he writes exactly literally, or to apply it with ANY alteration. [hint: you won’t be able to find one, as all of scientology techniques are required to be applied exactly as specified.] Thus, YOURS is the “misunderstood club”.
Jere, FWIW:
Dec 1, 1952, PDC tape #1 : Ron stated he is full of opinions and the practitioner needs to be able to differentiate truth from opinion.
Considering the present day lack of human interaction skills, classroom skills, linguistic skills, rational thinking skills, critical thinking skills, or even survival skills in our society, much less a inbred and truth starved cult, it would be expected that not to many will know the difference. It is best to throw the lot out with the dirty water.
“Dec 1, 1952, PDC tape #1 : Ron stated he is full of opinions and the practitioner needs to be able to differentiate truth from opinion.”
And once the practitioner starts differentiating – meaning have an opinion on Ron and the tech – you become an enemy of mankind and a black ops project for Scientology thugs.
Ron was constantly writing words that sound benevolent like “love despite all provocation to do otherwise” in What Is Greatness and then he instructs the destruction and ruination of those who started “differentiating”.
Just is the wise greatness of the Malignant Narcissist called L Ron Hubbard.
“Ron stated he is full of opinions and the practitioner needs to be able to differentiate truth from opinion.”
FPjr. An example of an opinion is this: “Tomatoes are tasty.” An INSTRUCTION is: “Turn the screwdriver twice clockwise.”
The quote you are using is NOT relevant to the point in question. The point in question is, “Are/were Hubbard’s INSTRUCTIONS to staff and auditors something to be done AS WRITTEN or, NOT?
His instructions were NOT opinions, BY DEFINITION.
Wynski,
Would this make you happier? ‘ Ron instructed that he is full of opinions and the practitioner needs to be able to differentiate truth from opinion.”
Nah……. forget it.
Happier? How odd. That 2+2=4 makes me neither happy nor sad. It simply is.
See the Hubbard Chart of Human Evaluation – column under “Literalness of Reception of Statements”. You’ll have to do better than that with me.
FOOL proof, Show ONE place in policy or other LRH publication which states NOT to take what he writes literally, or to apply it with ANY alteration. [hint: you won’t be able to find one, as all of scientology techniques are required to be applied exactly as specified.] Thus, YOURS is the “misunderstood club”.
Answered above – literally!
Since Foolproof has not yet made his appearance, here’s a little taste: “There you go again Mike, taking something totally out of context to fit your one size fits all agenda. Wynski, go ahead with all your bashing to hide your overts, and for the rest of you adorers of all things Rinder, try finding your crashing MU – I know it’s a lot to ask.”
Absolutely. Mike is very entertaining while also being informative. I really enjoyed 5.75 information-packed hours of Mike’s interviews with Aaron Smith-Levin (or Levin-Smith as Marty likes to say). Or Mike’s interviews with Jeffrey Augustine, Ron Miscavige, John Cedars (Lloyd Evans), at al. Even Mike chatting lakeside with Marty was entertaining.
Scientology is toxic to the human spirit, but it is wonderful to see the escapees recover and be restored to their powers of free thinking and expression. Scientology is a fascinating and complex subject of study from the outside.
We should all be thankful that Ecclesiastical Fleet Admiral Miscavige is such a paranoid sociopath who long ago mastered the ability of suppressing and driving off his most capable lieutenants. There is no worse enemy of Scientology than DM himself. Mike is so much more powerful outside CoS than inside. And a force for good instead of evil.
Wow, I must have summoned the dude! Mike, I’m afraid you might have scared off the pooper. Let’s see if he returns for Round Two.
Yeah, seems spot on! Very well done!
By their own references which Mike found and posted here, you can see that they say anything which gives the idea that no auditing should occur is suppressive. Well I guess that makes DM an SP because he did away with the Class VI Briefing Course, did away with the Class VIII auditor course, took OT’s off their auditing to divert them to re-do Objectives, and many other re-dos which was just another way to get money out of them because they had to pay for the course.
When a car has a manufacture error in it, a Recall is sent out and people are notified that there is something dangerous about their car, and they tell them that if they bring it in to the service center, it will get fixed at no charge. That’s good for cars and car owners. But if it is discovered that the Objectives or Grades run on you were run incorrectly, were quickied or squirreled, why doesn’t the mother church pay to have them corrected as is done with cars? Surely your safety and your case and spiritual beingness is more important than a car. The emphasis now in the church is buildings and not cases or training. By LRH’s reference, that makes DM, the perpetrator of this, an SP.
Cindy, there are MANY DM actions which add up to his being an SP and super-squirrel. I can’t think of ONE action of his which has been on-source or good for scientology or scientologists. trashing Class VI and above are small potatoes compared to “the Basics”, “Golden age” of [whatever], the 4-swing FN, eliminating the Mission network in toto, the passive Div 6s, pure donations, and all of the rest of his policy and ‘tech’ alterations. In addition, his stats don’y protect him as they’re all FALSE even if they hadn’t catastrophically crashed with each of his “innovations”.
Jerre Lull, Well said! I agree with you. I only homed in on auditing because in one of the LRH references Mike published in today’s article it specifically said that any idea of not having or promoting auditing means the person is an SP. It struck me as so ironic that they are doing ALL the things that they claim to live by. And why the KA drinkers can’t see this is beyond me. But of course this is only one of many many SP actions DM has done to destroy the church. You’re right, Jerre!
What is Ed’s history, does anyone know? He seemed to appear a few years ago out of nowhere, and if he weren’t wearing that goofy hat all the time it would be hard to even place him. Is he just the current figurehead for these propaganda pieces? Does he even write the things that have his name on them? Is STAND anything other than a website for these fake news releases?
He was Heber’s gofor in the President CSI office for many years until Heber was disappeared. He remained in PR OSA Int and as the other “spokespeople” also fell by the wayside (Tommy Davis, Erin Banks, Tom Paquette, Linda Simmons-Hight, Bob Adams etc etc) he (according to the Peter Principle) assumed the role of the “face” of scientology’s “dead agent” patrol. He is truly a non-entity in the scientology world and is looked upon as expendable cannon fodder. He doesnt write everything on the STAAD website by any means. But his name is used as a convenience. The fewer names that are public the fewer potential people to be deposed….
I’m sure his time on the PAC RPF helped make him even more compliant than he already was.
A very important post.
Nicely done Mike.
Mike clearly has an extensive memory, awesome documentation resources, strong analytical and composition skills, and is an engaging presenter, both in writing and in interviews. He’s a walking encyclopedia of the full reality of Scientology, inside and outside.
These images really show the malicious insanity of Ron. It makes me so happy to see your life trajectory from giving speeches at Int Management events (I got in in 1990) to making wonderful posts like this. More people need to see this stuff.
Indeed, Jane! But the good news is, the cult is shrinking. And has been for years!
The argument about what Fair Game means or meant is to some degree irrelevant and a red herring argument. What matters is that Scientology and Scientologists have no qualms about dealing with their perceived enemies by lying, tricking, cheating, suing and taking any action they believe they can get away with to destroy them.
Thanks for refreshing the ‘scripture’ references on ‘that-which-will-not-be-named’. Just as the cult lies when they say they ‘don ‘t do it’ ,even as they are currently dong it, they lie about their lying. Since there is a TR labeled TR-L then lying is part of the ‘scripture’. Lying as a Holy Sacrament!
Whenever a DM-clone writes publically the internet/cloud registers those words and makes the lies public worldwide to anyone who searches. The more they write, the more lies they spout, the more the cult gets known for lying.
If Hubbard was alive today he would probably hug his telex machine and say: “Internet–what internet, search engine— what search engine, cloud—what cloud.’
Auditing process R245. Wow, these folks really want to go out with a bang!
No, read it again. This is LRH ordering sea org members to commit murder.
It is worded “Any Sea Org member contacting any of them is to use Auditing Process R2-45.” While the statement can be interpreted to mean that a sea org member contacting them is to commit suicide (as typical with LRH’s sloppy writing), the context makes it clear that they are to execute the people on the list. IOW, if you ever needed more proof that LRH was a cult leader, here it is.
And if any of them were actually murdered, i’m sure this would stand up in court, as ‘incitement to violence’ or some such offense.
Such a “leader” lol. Listen to Ron’s weaknesses:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmations_(L._Ron_Hubbard)
It is so like LRH to make a grand pronouncement, an edict to the blind followers, exhorting them to his fantasy of lethal violence against the evil enemies of Scientology.
Most good leaders have done (and could do) all of the things that they are responsible for managing others to do. This is not the case with LRH. He was an insecure and spoiled coward who would never be able to pick up a firearm and murder someone. But LRH would fantasize about his heroic notion of killing an enemy in cold blood, and he’ll issue an HCO PL order to the cult membership about his deadly fantasy. Thankfully the Scilon sheeple don’t do it either. (But GO/OSA certainly has resorted to nearly everything short of homicide, including many felony acts, to “FAIR GAME” the supposed enemies of the Cult of Scientology.)
Let’s take a look at how absurd the Church’s contention is. Imagine if the Mafia released a memo titled “Cancellation of Hit Contracts.” Their policy might read something like this:
“The practice of assigning hit contracts will cease. “Hit Contract” may not appear in any written communication. It causes legal problems.
This memo does not cancel any policy on the disposing of snitches, squealers, rats, informants, and undercover agents.”
Is there any difference between Scientology and Mafia tactics? Maybe one. The Mafia will avoid extreme confrontations whenever possible. It interferes with their business. On the other hand, the Church will always carry out their no-holds-barred attacks any day, any time, consequences be damned. It makes you wonder which organization is the more sensible.
Lol Chris! Exactly.
Are you really accusing LRH of writing something inherently ludicrous and self-contradictory?
https://i.imgur.com/knS2DH2.jpg
taken from yesterday’s comments on:
https://tonyortega.org/2019/07/29/driving-people-away-and-begging-them-back-was-built-into-scientology-from-the-start/
Hmm, it would be beyond stupid for a cult member to attack anyone these days. More and more average citizens have conceal carry permits now as well as personal protection options in their homes, plus cameras being everywhere these days. But, I guess prison life wouldn’t be much different than living in the cult compound – actually better. The food would be better, plus free health care. I really don’t understand Ed Parkin. His brain must be so fried that his human body and mouth just operate on pre-programmed auto control.
“May be tricked, sued, or lied to or DESTROYED”.
Can someone tell me about being destroyed?
How about the IRS guy that still can’t make right turns after 40 yrs.
OSD, according to Stoolpoof, you are being ” literal-minded “. The use of the word
” destroying ” ,in this context, is merely colorful language employed by His Thetanic Majesty in his quest to protect his totally scientific, spiritually pure dreckology and those who seek to ruin their lives by using it.
Yeah, Ron doesn’t mean what he says, except when he does. I once went to cramming and pointed out two statements of Hubbard that were the exact opposite of each other. The Cramming Officer told me to find my misunderstood. Should have belted her.
Yes, Scribe,in scientology, one’s compliance and absolute obedience-cheerful and ” uptone”- are essential for the indoctrination to succeed. Hubbard’s run-on contradictions and benzedrine-fueled stream-of-consciousness are to be consumed whole, without dissent, debate, discussion, or doubt. Learning and study do not happen in a scientology course room. Flubbard is perfect; the “materials” say so,
so knock off that “suppressive” intellectual activity and genuflect!😂
I would relish the opportunity to fully extend my bended knee and kick the diminutive dumbfuck in the derrière.
For those who have just read the above by Hubbard that proves he was a criminal sociopath one can see how his most ardent followers who know this info about Hubbard are also criminally minded. People on here like Foolproof and marildi to name a couple of prominent ones have no problem with such a criminal maniac loose upon society.
If it weren’t for the lies, malapropisms and obfuscation and head fakes, $cientology might have been a real ‘religion’. Nah, it never was a ‘religion’, it was always multi-level marketing, self help scam.
I really wonder who believes anything any $cieno mouthpiece says? Ask Paulette Cooper about ‘fair game’.
For someone to seek refuge in Scn’s Justice system is like a Jew seeking refuge at Auschwitz.
The exaggerated sense of one’s own importance or abilities (= arrogant) is indeed evident in the statements written in the various ecleciastical articles, such as: ‘unless we ABSOLVED them’,’ or ‘are declared enemies of humanity and all life…’
LRH, Eddie, Miscavige and other extremely liers sociopaths manifest, in their words and writings, this sense of grandeur, almost God-like power or something similarly insane that is hard to stomach. But what is also very clear is the constant, eternal habit of lying over, and over, and over again, and again, and again…
You can call shit effluvium, but it still stinks.
Come on Ed, you’re squirreling the tech.
I squirreled once. That damn thing bit me!
I rabbited once and got stuck in a sex implant.