Came across this the other day, right from the desk of L. Ron Hubbard.
It offers some fascinating insight into how he believed scientology could be sold to cure literally everything, and how to avoid running afoul of the law. The “nod, nod, wink, wink” is thinly disguised and his disdain for government and medical authorities is palpable.
It is interesting that this is written in 1962 and, like he had done since 1950, he claimed “we can clear” (until next month or year when he would announce the NEXT “breakthrough” that “now” made clearing possible) and that “of course, Clearing resolves “healing.” Scientology goes to great pains to get releases from people saying “we are not engaged in physical healing” but the reality is that they promote and sell it.
The most amazing thing about this document is how brazen it is.
We can “heal without engaging in healing” by some tricky wordplay. It’s simple. We promise to heal you because we “believe” you are not sick, just suppressed. We can get rid of the suppression and so you will be healed, but we didn’t heal you. See?
“We advertise to cure no diseases!” — wink, wink…
So, let’s advertise ourselves in the paper and on buses etc etc and “wipe out illness.”
Ron seemed to think he was so “smooth”, even “subtle” as he willfully violated laws willy-nilly, as if no one would notice his little nudge, nudge, wink, wink essays so BROADLY published. The HUBRIS of the guy was unbelievable. Davy-Boy at least keeps it to his big spectacles which have surprisingly NOT been ported to the InterWebz AFAICT, where his words will be on the public domain pretty much forever.
If human beings I,s are the whole world the healing of them is a waste of time. It’s to repair something working to something not working. It’s an attack on whole worlds.
I wonder if you could create a “Scientology OT 8 Watch List” that show’s all the people who have completed, their profiles and various statuses of them. They should be total cause over everything.
1) Dead or alive
2) Health status: good health, or ill with cancer or some other chronic disease
3) Marital status
4) Blown, Declared or still in good standing
5) Been disconnnected
6) Been fair gamed
7) Mental health status – any psychotic breaks or mental breakdowns
8) Financial Status: Currently Broke or Bankrupt
9) IAS status
10) How long have they been in/out of Scientology
11) Been held prisoner at Int Base or the Ship or somewhere else
12) How much money have they put into Scientology or front groups
13) How long have they worked for Scientology
14) Were they ever punched by Miscavige or another staff member
15) Do they suffer from PTSD and/or are they taking psych meds
16) Do they really believe there is an OT 9 and 10
17) Did OSA Int ever ask them to do something morally questionable
18) How many non-Scientology friends do they have
19) Do they still speak to their family
20) Do they currently suffer from any alcohol or drug addictions
21) Do they suffer from any other addictions like gambling or watching porn
22) Do they smoke
Jethro, that’s a pretty complete questionnaire; obviously you’ve given it a lot of thought.
Therefore, you seem the IDEAL type of candidate to figure out a way to find it all out.Thanks for volunteering. WHY not get started on it? How can any of us help you?
*After years working with volunteers in Mensa, I’ve found that the person who says: “SOMEone should do this or that.” is the perfect person to “strong-arm” into doing just that. They have the interest and at least SOME energy to go find out what they don’t know and learn how to do it. I’ll of course help to the extent I can, if only as a cheerleader to urge them on and to invite others to help. Thus, I’m not picking on you, Jethro, just trying to help get a possibly VERY interesting project off the ground.
Mike, and all the volunteers putting this blog here: I’m sorry if I might have just stepped on a toe or so, but I have no *censor* some times.
Jethro,
Let me help even though I only done OT&Eps:
1) Alive since 1938
2) Good health , cancer self remission, arthritis
3) Married 27 years happily
4) Walked out 1984, disappeared from their web sites
5) Nope
6) Not that I know of
7) I’m abnormal but not noticeable to authorities
8) Home paid, IRA good, SS pays expenses
9) Bought lifetime HAS in 1968, and never any more
10) Out 36 years
11) None
12) About 2500 ( 1970 dollars)
13) one year
14) Never
15) Never
16) no
17) yes
18) 20-30
19) All of them
20) No
21) Addicted to the web
22) Not since my mom caught me smoking her rationed cigs in 1944
I have since leaving Scientology found an inescapable conclusion – Scientology as part of a massive fraud has convinced hundreds, perhaps over decades thousands, of people to skip conventional medical treatment and instead pursue Scientology and Dianetics for healing. This has included treatable deadly illnesses such as cancer. One might call this slow motion mass murder.
I don’t know the exact number of deaths this has led to, but cannot fathom it being less than hundreds and possibly even thousands of people.
Below is a collection of quotes to begin exploring this theme.
Imagine believing this wholeheartedly:
“There will always be a role for the medical doctor. But his role is not as broad as AMA advertising would like us to believe. The doctor is a handyman desperately valuable in the specific fields of emergency surgery and repair (as needed after accidents), in obstetrics, in orthopedics and as epidemic police. Further he ceases to be valuable. Almost any chemical engineer can administer antibiotics with better results than can a doctor. Any civil engineer knows more about sanitation. Almost all operations as in the field of surgery are needless. And in problems of psychosomatic medicine the doctor has been and is a rather miserable flop — and psychosomatic medicine comprises better than seventy percent of Man’s ills!” Ron Hubbard The Road Up
The Journal of Scientology in March 1954,
This [Scientology] is useful knowledge. With it the blind again see, the lame walk, the ill recover, the insane become sane and the sane become saner. By its use the thousand abilities Man has sought to recover become his once more.
Ron Hubbard, SCIENTOLOGY: A HISTORY OF MAN, 1952
Of all the ills of man which can be successfully processed by Scientology, arthritis ranks near the top. In skilled hands, this ailment, though misunderstood and dreaded in the past, already has begun to become history. Twenty-five hours of Scientology by an auditor who fairly understands how to process arthritis can be said to produce an invariable alleviation of the condition. Some cases, even severe ones, have responded in as little as two hours of processing, according to reports from auditors in the field.
Ron Hubbard, “Journal of Scientology,” Issue 1-G, 1952
Leukaemia is evidently psychosomatic in origin and at least eight cases of leukaemia had been treated successfully by Dianetics after medicine had traditionally given up. The source of leukaemia has been reported to be an engram containing the phrase ‘It turns my blood to water.’
Ron Hubbard, “Journal of Scientology,” Issue 15-G, 1953
Arthritis vanishes, myopia gets better, heart illness decreases, asthma disappears, stomachs function properly and the whole catalogue of illnesses goes away and stays away.
Ron Hubbard, DIANETICS: THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH, 1987 Ed., p. 72
Scientology is the only specific (cure) for radiation (atomic bomb) burns.
Ron Hubbard, ALL ABOUT RADIATION, p. 109
You are only three or four hours from taking your glasses off for keeps.
Ron Hubbard, “Eyesight and glasses,” “Dianetic Auditor’s Bulletin,” Vol. 2, No. 7, January 1952
The alleviation of the condition of insanity has also been accomplished now
Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, November 1970, “Psychosis”
Additionally I found several applicable quotes in an article by Jeff Jacobsen.
Cure goiter – Dianetics Today (1975 Ed.), p. 280
“I’ve seen a goiter the size of a baseball visibly shrink and disappear in the space of one-half hour right after an engram was run.”
Cure polio- Dianetics Today (1975 Ed.), p. 353
“A girl crippled by polio was able to throw away her crutches after my first session.”
Cure arthritis – History of Man, p. 7
“Today, Eleanor has arthritis. She is audited… tonight she doesn’t have arthritis”
Speed broke bone healing – Dianetics Today (1975 Ed), p.110
“A broken limb will heal (by X-ray evidence) in two instead of six weeks.”
Cure effects of drugs – Dianetics Today, (1975 Ed.), p.481
“ONLY processing by Dianetics and Scientology can handle the effects of drugs fully.”
Raise the dead – Magazine Articles on Level 0, Checksheet 1968, “Dissemination of Material” p.75
“A child had died, was dead, had been pronounced dead by a doctor, and the auditor, by calling the thetan back and ordering him to take over the body again brought the child to life.”
Cure migraines – Dianetics Today (1975 Ed.), p.125; also see HCOB 15 Jan. ’79 “Handling with Auditing”
Cure cancer – The History Of Man (1961), p. 20
“Cancer has been eradicated by auditing out conception and mitosis.”
Cure skin cancer – All About Radiation (1979 Ed.), p.114
Cure radiation sickness – All About Radiation (1979 Ed.), p.109; also PAB no. 82
“Scientology is the only specific (cure) for radiation (atomic bomb) burns.”
Improve eyesight – PAB no. 111 “Eyesight and glasses”; also Dianetic Auditor’s Bulletin vol. 2 no. 7 January 1952 “An afternoon with Ron”
“You are only three or four hours from taking your glasses off for keeps.”
Cure a broken ankle – HCOB 30 July 1973 “Scientology, Current State of the Subject and Materials.”
Cure insanity – HCOB 28 Nov. ’70 “Psychosis”
“The alleviation of the condition of insanity has also been accomplished now…”
Cure bronchitis – HCOB 14 Dec. ’63 “Case analysis Health Research”
“12 days after this auditing the coughing was still in abeyance.”
cure brainwashing – HCOB No. 19 Dec. ’55 “The turn of the Tide”
“… in Dianetics in particular, we have the total antidote for the eradication of brainwashing.”
Miscellaneous claims:
– DIANETICS (1987 ED.) p.72: “arthritis vanishes, myopia gets better, heart illness decreases, asthma disappears, stomachs function properly and the whole catalogue of illnesses goes away and stays away.”
– HISTORY OF MAN P.13: “The GE has the record of past deaths. Auditing it alters physical structure, eradicates physical malformations.”
– HISTORY OF MAN P.14: “Paralysis, anxiety stomachs, arthritis and many ills and aberrations have been relieved by auditing them.”
Hubbard wrote that Scientologists taking courses were barred from visiting a doctor without express permission from the church “except in cases of severe emergency.” (HCOPL 26 July 1965 “Release Declaration Restrictions, Healing Amendments)
I have reviewed the NOTs material posted to the internet and assume that it is the real thing, because 1) the church legally went after those who posted the NOTs for copyright violations, 2) former members vouched for the authenticity of the material, and 3) it is consistent with other church writings.
Basically, the NOTs series are auditing methods that use an e-meter purportedly designed to rid the Scientologist of a multitude of unwanted spiritual beings attached to his/her soul. These unwanted beings, called “Body Thetans” or “BTs”, can allegedly cause physical problems for humans.
For example:
Series 2
Being a Clear but not having completed OT levels “doesn’t necessarily affect the person himself, but it does affect the body – severely.” Series 2 seeks to motivate Scientologists to take the next courses by stating that “Clears should be told they are at risk until OTIII” of “illness, possibly worse.”
Series 12
This series deals with mis-auditing problems. NOTs mis-auditing can hurt the physical body “dangerously so” by stirring up dormant BTs.
Series 22
A cluster of BTs can shut off nerve channels which can cause deafness or blindness – “when a cluster suddenly mocks up mass, it shuts off nerve channels.” Extrapolating from this, one could imagine many other illnesses caused by such a phenomenon, such as blockage of the urinary tract.
Series 27
BTs and clusters can effect a person’s perception.
BTs are acting as various illnesses. Once audited away the illness supposedly is gone.
“BTs or clusters being ‘negative’… probably are the root of sickness.”
Series 32
“You can run into a cluster causing damage to the body.”
There are several quotes within the series which clearly state that auditing can cure illnesses:
Series 2
“Clears should be told they are at risk (of illness) until OTIII.”
Series 3
“If a guy has a bad secondary, or a bad injury, you handle that with Date/Locate [an auditing procedure using the e-meter].”
Series 26R
“If ill or injured handle [w]ith an Assist (NOTs 3)”
Series 27
“Body distortions” are cleared up.
Series 34
“The above are the full steps and sequences for handling a physical condition.” [this is the series that Keith Henson posted, claiming it teaches medical fraud]
Series 48
“If the person is sick as well as being subjected to a dangerous environment, there would be no hope of recovery without auditing.”
Particular cases of cures are documented within NOTs:
Series 48
“This cluster… was the underlying cause of the stomach pain and the stomach condition.” “…a full recovery to health was accomplished.”
“Most people are sick due to some out-rudiment scene.”
Series 50
“He started recovering physically. Articulation handled and walking improved.” “This case was… considered incurable by the medicos.”
Hubbard wanted to impress people with a scientific background, and he inflated his training and experiences by vast proportions. Despite the fact that Hubbard only had 2 miserable years of college level courses at George Washington University, the church’s books make the following claims:
” Ron Hubbard, one of America’s first nuclear physicists, …” [inside jacket of All About Radiation].
“…Ron Hubbard was trained in mathematics, science and engineering at George Washington University, in government at Princeton and has a Doctor of Philosophy degree.” [inside jacket of A History of Man]
“I was a Ph.D., Sequoia’s University and therefore a perfectly valid doctor under the laws of the State of California.” [HCOPL 14 Feb. 1966 “Doctor Title Abolished”]. Sequoia University was a diploma mill where anyone for a small fee could obtain a diploma.
In Professional Auditor’s Bulletin #82, “Scientology, Translator’s Edition” 1 May, 1956, by ” Ron Hubbard, Ph.D. C.E.” we have the statement that Scientology “was organized by Ron Hubbard, an American, who has many degrees” (Tech. Bulletins, vol. 2, p.406).
Hubbard stated “That was the first and only time the government offered me a post as a nuclear physicist.” ( Ron Hubbard Creating A New Civilization Tape Series Tape A Postulate Out Of A Golden Age December 6 1956).
Hubbard also stated “I happen to be a nuclear physicist; I am not a psychologist nor a psychiatrist nor a medical doctor” (“Dianetics: The Modern Miracle”. February 6, 1952).
Obviously, Hubbard was puffing his academic background toward the scientific end. He wanted people to see him as a master of the physical sciences.
Hubbard claimed that his auditing process was scientifically valid. Ron Hubbard constantly makes the claim that dianetics is a “scientific fact.” In fact, he makes that claim 35 times in Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health. For example, “All our facts are functional and these facts are scientific facts, supported wholly and completely by laboratory evidence.” (DIANETICS, (1987 edition) p. 96).
Both Dianetics and Scientology are declared to be precise sciences by Hubbard:
In the Scientology book All About Radiation is the statement that “Scientology has been called that branch of atomic science which deals with human ability” (p. 46, 1979 edition).
Hubbard wrote that “Scientology is… more exact than what are called the physical sciences” (Scientology 8-8008 p. 13).
“Scientology is the only workable system man has” (Introduction to Scientology Ethics, p.64 1976 reprint).
Scientology “is, indeed, the most validated science of mind Earth has ever known” (Journal of Scientology Issue 40-G, “Validation of Scientology”).
“It is carefully observed here that the *science* of Scientology does not intrude into the Dynamic of the Supreme Being” (Professional Auditor’s Bulletin No. 83).
“Dianetics is a science; as such, it has no opinion about religion, for sciences are based on natural laws, not on opinions” (Dianetics Auditor’s Bulletin Vol. 1 No. 4, October 1950).
“Scientology, which includes Dianetics, is a workable system. The route is taped. The search is done. Now the route only needs to be walked” (Dianetics Today p.951).
All quotes above from: Medical claims within Scientology’s
secret teachings by Jeff Jacobsen
I feel these quotes are accurate and worth understanding in the context they were actually used in. Hubbard clearly repeatedly stated Dianetics and Scientology healed people and did this in two distinct paths of information. The ideas he spread from Dianetics publication through Scientology auditing up to the level of clear and promoting the OT levels, particularly OT III and above to Scientologists had broadly distributed claims that virtually all Scientologists are exposed to. Certainly in Dianetics and basic books and courses.
Additionally the NOTS courses are part of materials that are hidden from the majority of Scientologists and definitely were hidden from the government and general public as long as Scientology could hide them. Only leaks online have changed that.
I feel Jeff Jacobsen demonstrated several points with Hubbard’s own words that support my claims. Hubbard certainly claimed Scientology and Dianetics were sciences far superior to any others created by humanity. That is very exact: he left no room for seeing Scientology and Dianetics as faith based with the terms he used.
Hubbard claimed Scientology and Dianetics are literally capable of raising the dead and can heal a wide variety of illnesses and injuries including specific fatal diseases such as cancer.
Hubbard claimed he himself had credentials which he clearly never achieved. To establish a false air of authority. Scientific authority to be precise.
The cumulative results of all these claims in the context of decades of being presented to hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Scientologists is important. Scientology despite claims of millions of members by the sixties actually likely never had more than about a hundred thousand members at any time. It certainly had far less than that between the Dianetics boom which fizzled once Dianetics was exposed as a fraud. From the fifties through much of the seventies hundreds of thousands of Scientologists came and went. From the late eighties through twenty fifteen the cult has had less than a hundred thousand members and likely fifty thousand or fewer members the majority of that time.
But in the heavy indoctrination Scientologists receive the ideas that Dianetics and Scientology heal far better than conventional medical technology is heavily promoted. The idea that Dianetics and Scientology are bona fide sciences is promoted. And probably most of all the idea that Hubbard was an authority on science of the highest possible level is a fundamental value in Scientology. In fact Hubbard is promoted as the greatest authority on the mind, science and life that has ever lived.
That is a core doctrine in Scientology.
All of these factors and claims by individual Scientologists of knowing others who got illnesses such as cancer and then due to being fooled by an elaborate fraud with actual lies – and not just statements within a faith – lead to one predictable result. Those victims of fraud failed to use conventional medicine and many died as a result. I believe the number must be in the hundreds or thousands.
That is murder via medical fraud. I cannot see how any other conclusion is correct. In many places causing death of a human being in the commission of another crime is called felony murder. It sometimes is called depraved indifference homicide. Either can apply in this circumstance.
Additionally worth noting is that Scientology claims religious protection for its activities in the United States. I object to that but understand it is a legal obstacle.
But citizens of many countries practice Scientology and abandon medical treatment and suffer consequences up to death as part of this fraud. Surely some of these people died whose countries of origin don’t recognize Scientology as a religion. They can pursue legal action against Scientology for fraud and murder, among other charges.
I hope this article helps to show how Scientology is not a harmless fad.
From
https://mbnest.blogspot.com/2020/07/blog-archive-by-topic.html
Mockingbird offered in his very complete analysis concluding:
“I don’t know the exact number of deaths this has led to, but cannot fathom it being less than hundreds and possibly even thousands of people.”
I’m in the same boat as you and curious as hell. How can I help you figure it out? I recall an old site listing “those who needn’t have died.” or similar. I browsed it to find a few of the friends at Flag, etc. I’d lost track of since 1980.
I suspect it’s still around and that someone around here might know where it is. That might be a good starting point. I think I found it “recently” when I googled Annie Broeker scientology. [Well, THAT sent me down a rabbit hole!]
You say that Scn can be sued for “Depraved Indifference Murder”.
Is there a statue of limitations for this one?
The tough one is: Does the Plaintiff have to be alive in order to sue? If so, I guess that I am out of luck. I can prove that they killed me, but for the same reason I have no Declare, I have no Death Certificate
(Continued) If I could get my last auditor on the Freewinds, Joan Heller; at that time the OTVIII Review auditor on the jury I would win. She certainly knew that I was dead when she saw me in the elevator at AOLA a few years later. She freaked out at seeing a Dead Man in the elevator.
On seeing her reaction, I said ” I guess you did not expect to see me again” to which she replied ” No, I really didn’t.”.
(Addition) As Joan was my last auditor on the ship she probably knew about my condition when it got bad and may have even known that my wife had been advised to put me in a hospice to die. That would explain her reaction to seeing me.
Bill —
Is this sarcasm? If not, what the heck do you mean that you’re dead?
Yes, it probably is sarcasm. After I was sent off the Freewinds in June 02, supposedly for further testing the Captain Freewinds told my then wife that I was going to die and that nobody could stop it. He all but ordered her to end cycle on me. They sent me to a chiropractor for treatment who was not a doctor and by his own statement had never treated anyone with HIV AIDS. The chiro told me that the drugs the doctors would prescribe would kill me faster than AIDS and under no circumstances should I take them. It was clear that they were holding my wife against her will while they waited for me to die. I ended up with dementia and my wife later told me that 6 doctors told her that I was going to die. I was pronounce basically dead by the Captain of the OTVIII ship and his word is law aboard. The ship execs (don’t know exactly who) told her to put me in a hospice to die. Had she followed their orders I would certainly been dead. My Fitness Board originally stated that I was to return to duty ” As soon as possible next lifetime.”
I am sorry if I have offended anyone with my statement. It is a complete miracle that I am alive today. This was all entirely unnecessary. Had I been treated with the proven meds available at the time, I could have even remained on post. There was a determined and continuous activity by the Captain and others which could only have one outcome, my death. This was 18 years ago.
(Continued) I made him wrong by surviving and through working under him for 16 years I know that he strenuously objects to being made wrong.
I remember but have not found a copy of A reference in which Hubbard wrote/said we always raise delivery and never lower promotion. Meaning if you can’t get a promised result you never admit it and instead try to improve auditing.
It means you lie and promise health, sanity, wealth and magical powers from Scientology and when you realize you don’t have the results promised you are never allowed to admit it to the public.
If anyone here knows the reference or has a link I would really appreciate it.
Mockingbird, You said:
“Hubbard wrote/said we always raise delivery and never lower promotion.”
I took it to mean:
if it’s not working, do MORE of it
[expecting a different outcome! ]
and keep grabbing more new meat to deliver to. Expand or die.
I remember he explicitly said to not lower promotion, meaning if your auditors cannot deliver the results promised to never reveal that fact.
It is different from the idea expressed in KSW series one.
I recall the reference you two are talking about. It says to promote until the floors cave in from the number of people, and then don’t even notice that, just keep promoting.
The idea is that you never let the Tech Area say that they can only deliver so much so you should not promote more than they can deliver.
The HCOPL might be entitled “Principles of promotion”.
Now in 2003 after a CAT scan of my brain the neurologist wrote on the image that I had “Marked brain volume loss due to immune deficiency. This is when I did not know what year it was.
The reference could be the one from the registrars hardsell pack. It is an HCOB.
It states you NEVER promise that the auditing purchesed will handle their ruin or offer money back. Plus it is not the registrars hat to do any case supervising. Their job is to sign the pc up and route them to tech.
If the pc returns with his ruin still unhandled the reg says keep going and if the previous action didn’t handle it, perhaps the next one will. Still no promises or guarantees can be made by the reg.
Well, they certainly cured my bleeding ulcer with a PTS Rundown in 1991. (Details have already been given on this blog).
LRH said to think in futures. They had to cure me or how else could they kill me later?
Even the great LRH never said that he could kill a man already dead.
I am not angry with LRH, afer all he gave us Mike Rinder and others and a game to play. How can he be accused of killing a man who was already dead? My main beef with the organization is that they held my wife a prisoner for 6 months while they waited patiently for me to die. I’m sorry that I rook long; I hope that no-one got in any trouble about it. LRH said that life is a game. So that means that I must be a BT to Scientology who must be audited out. Buut I can’t get any auditing because obviously I am an SP, just like the issue days, oh, excuse me, I have never seen the issue. Well fo)owing the great HCOPL” how to defeat Verbal Tech” You are actually required to READ the issue. But of course the poor dumb bastards never sent me a copy. ]Now, in the interests of total disclosure, I will confess that there is a chance that they sent me a copy. This would explain why my ex-wife of which we were still good friends, would disconnect from me without warning when she clearly stated at our last meeting that she woul never do so without informing me of the fact.
The reason that the ” poor dumb bastards” never sent me a copy is that they knew that I would have had a field day. Dead Agenting whatever lies and bullshit the put in it They could not, for example say, as the cocaroaches said about Mike, that he was expelled for overts on post, as my Fitness Board Turndown says specifically that I was ineligible ” Solely due to medical reasons”. And it goes on and on, sounds like an issue written on someone who had personally cleared the planet. Of course they screwed up royally by allowing my now ex-wife, the poor widow, to write the Fitness Board issue. They took pity on the poor widow to be, a rhing not allowed by RTC, DM said that RTC operated like “Cold Chrome Steel” an acho of the real fuehrer, his mentor, Adolf Hitler who said that he wanted the German people to be as hard as Kruppstal, the main steel producing company at that time.
Bill, I suspect that if they DID send you a copy, they sent it to a wrong address. Silly wabbits, they could have given it to your wife to hand-deliver and save the postage.
Jere:
I was living at the house in Long Beach which my now ex-wife owns. They could have sent it there. I do not know if she was on lines at the time, haven’t seen or heard from her since 2015. They probably sent it there as that was my last known address.
But what happened to writing a “disconnection letter” or at least informing someone of the fact?
Unless you know that you have been disconnected, you are still connected in some way. It is a mystery, and LRH said that a mystery holds 2 things together, mainly by the being trying to discover the mystery. But I gave up expecting anyone in the Church to follow policy anymore. If they do, it is just that they found a policy that matches what they wanted to do anyway.
Mike, This was from one of the admin Volumes correct? Weren’t those discontinued by Miscavige?
Its from a Tech volume. Which is also “discontinued” because all the policies and HCOB’s have to be “verified” and “updated” and the OEC needs to be “put in sequence” blah blah blah. And of course, the ONLY one who can do this is Dear Leader himself. But he doesnt have time because he is always having to do everything for everybody as they are “all” incompetent.
Thanks Mike. Then Mr. MisSavage is now the only interpreter of what is LRH tech And admin and what is not. Pretty interesting for the true believers. Since they don’t study history except through Hubbard they are doomed to fall into the same black hole concocted by so many other religions founded by religious leaders. What a fiasco.
Hey there, BKmole! You may call it a “fiasco”. But I would look for another word. A word that would be more descriptive of his greedy, grasping, grabby, gulping, guzzling, grumpy, nature.
If he thinks that he will be getting away with all of his crimes forever, he surely must also have a pee wee brain (besides having a pee wee body). He will not escape. He cannot escape! Someone will be sure to get him. Either the long arm of the law or one of his victims’ many loved ones. Someone will be sure to dispense the justice that he deserves. And when that happens, all the rest of us will stand up and cheer. Loud and clear! Laugh and cheer!
Oh dear! It’s just so hard to stop once I get started. There are so many good adjectives applicable to his creepy nature. They just keep on coming. Even after I close my thesaurus, they still keep on coming. Would you believe it? This is the first time that I’ve outdone my thesaurus. Ain’t that something? I suppose the maniac has become so twisted that he can now give my thesaurus a run for its money. You know, if there is any money involved, he will sure be in the chase — fer sure! fer sure! Oh no! Did I just say “money” out loud?
If I did, you can bet that he will soon be coming a running! Anything for an extra penny or two. When this maniac comes a runnin’, just be sure to keep your kiddies safe. Otherwise, he may try to scoop ’em up and find a way to make some money out of having control of the kiddies. It’s a terrible and horrible web he weaves when at first he tries to deceive.
Hey! By the way, where the fuck is Shelley? Huh? What did you do with her? The police are sure to be coming and looking eventually and they will be sure to nail you on a charge of First Degree and then …. You will be done for, little boy! Don’t you know what they do to little teeny weeny itsie bitsie squirts in the pen? There’s a gonna be some non-stop bum fucking and cock sucking in your future. Every bubba in the pen will be keeping you busy. So, best get ready. Cuz your karma is long overdue and it will soon be a coming for you! I can hear it coming. It’s a coming soon! Real soon!
Haven’t you heard that Shelley REFUSES to be SEEN IN PUBLIC to state that she is fine & wishes NOT to be bothered. The “authorities” it seems are honKey dorey with SOMEONE ELSE MAKING THAT STATEMENT FOR HER.
WTF???? SERIOUSLY FOLKS….THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I’VE EVER HEARD THAT WHEN A “WELLNESS CHECK” IS MADE…THE AUTHORITIES TAKE THE WORD OF …….
S O M E O N E…… E L S E…… THAT THE PERSON INQUIRED ABOUT DOESN’T WANT TO STEP FORWARD ON THEIR OWN BEHALF.
Just THINK about all the CRIMES that can be gotten away with…..as in ” Yes, my long dead relative is alive & well & doesn’t want to step forward to make a statement”……………..
Meanwhile I am BANKING that deceased person’s money in MY OWN ACCOUNT & freely spending it as I SEE FIT….despite the fact that person has been deceased for decades…& the dumbass authorities are taking MY WORD on that relatives “WELL BEING”……
Talk about a Ponzi Scheme…just think how many people could PULL THIS STUNT & GET AWAY WITH IT…….YES COS SAYS SHELLEY IS WELL…NOW GO AWAY.
Exactly right, Balletlady.
Add this to it. Shelly is a Sea Org member. Her husband is accused of holding her prisoner or worse. If the accusations were untrue Shelly would want to disprove them and tell us all to go to hell. Certainly DM wants it all to go away.
The only possible reason they have not brought her out however briefly is because they can’t. She is either dead or looks like death warmed over. When I was near death of AIDS in 2002 I looked like the inmates at Auschwitz. I had lost 60 pounds in 4 months. I could not even stand up and had to be wheeled in a wheelchair. I had dementia and did not recognize my wife, did not know what year it was or what country I was in. If they put me into that condition in 6 months what could they do to Shelley in 10 years?
I remember her mother, Flo Barnett when she got auditing at FSO. I heard that she supposedly committed suicide by shooting herself in the chest and head with a rifle. What is the likely hood of that?
Gently, Skyler’s Sister: We don’t want to give him any ammunition for a death threat victimization claim. He doesn’t need anything real as he’s used to making such up out of whole cloth.
The twerp doesn’t need anything more to soil his cute little pants beyond us out the furthest fringe of the internet discussing the facts of his tiny little fiefdom’s implosion.
BKmole, I think you’ve got the pieces right, but calling it a Fiasco implies they INTENDED for scientology to prosper and flourish, including the expansion required for long-term viability of the enterprise. I believe Hubbard lost interest once he had more money than even HE could fritter away (again) and Davey never looked past the power he perceived at the top of the pyramid; all he’s done since is increase the cash he salts away in the bank accounts he controls. scientology is nothing but a cash cow and vanity project he’ll dump when he gets bored of it.
Am I cynical, much? Yes, when it comes to scientology. It’s depressing at best.
Another mind fuck piece of writing from LRH, It’s funny how he says they “prevent sickness” then talks about still sending people to a Doctor.
They sent me to a doctor; they sent me to LRH’s doctor. But then they did not follow his recommendations.
Either they do not believe in themselves, or (they were afraid that I would have recovered by following his advice (which I would have). and so they sent me to a chiropractor (again LRH’s chiropractor). I should feel like a total scumbag claiming that they sabotaged my medical handling after they sent me to the same doctors that LRH had. (Of course, they refused to follow his advice, I can only imagine because they wanted me dead).
ATTENTION OSA AND RTC:
As a duly declared SP (allegedly as I have not seen the issue.) I am working to assist in my own demise as well as yours.
Therefore, this is a buy now special.
I am going into the hospital in La Jolla on Friday to have some work done on my heart; which you all but destroyed with no treatment for HIV for 13 years. I am sure that you with your PIs and dirty tricks can engineer the demise of one patient undergoing a risky procedure. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO SILENCE ME FOREVER. ( Well, at least until next lifetime, which will not be long from now either way.
Bill, you wrote:
“I am going into the hospital in La Jolla on Friday to have some work done on my heart”
Well Bill, my money is on you hanging around a lot longer. You are one strong person.
I agree
Thank you, Mike.
I hope that my comments are useful and maybe slightly entertaining. They are very easy to write since I don’t have to make anything up.
Dear Peggy:
I’m afraid that you are right. They are not going to let me off that easy. I found out in my experience that it is a lot more work to live than to die. Thank you for your well wishes.
Will be thinking of you tomorrow Bill and look forward to seeing you here very soon 🙂
Dear friend Bill….
“Who else would make a comment like this??……ME!
You have a heart of GOLD…..pure GOLD…..I wish you well & quick recovery friend!
Balletlady:
Thank you for your comment and well-wishes. However, I would prefer that you did not tell RTC that I have a heart of gold days before I have a heart procedure in the hospital. They might try to steal it! (Joke).
The heart doctors have been trying to find out why my heart only pumps 1/4 of the normal amount of blood with each beat. Tests have shown that I have not had any heart attacks and the heart is getting a normal amount of blood, usual causes of heart failure.
When I was very ill with HIV/AIDS I lost 60 lbs in 4 months. Unfortunately, it was all muscle. In my last week on the Freewinds I tightened some water pipes Dow, a routine cycle of action. When I turned on the pump the gasket blew out which had never happened before.
My arms had been weakened from the muscle loss.
The heart is a muscle. Apparently, the heart was greatly weakened by muscle loss. This is typical of severe HIV/AIDS patients. The HIV doctors only noticed this phenomenon when a few AIDS patients happened to get an autopsy. They had just assumed that they died of AIDS. Their hearts had the exact same type of muscle wasting that I have. So the orgs failure to provide me with medical care not only gave me AIDS, it damaged my heart. My arm muscles have recovered but the heart does not build up mass like arm muscles. And with heart failure, you cannot just work the heart harder to make up for the loss. The doctors tried that with other patients and it just makes the heart give out faster.
If any of you happen to be lawyers I have a question.
The statue of limitations is no doubt up on the AIDS thing, but the heart failure did not become apparent until more recently even though the main damage likely happened many years ago.
My question is ” Is the statue of limitations up on the heart issue if I did not know about it?
Like many of you who slaved for decades to clear the planet, it took a long time for me to stop covering for the “church”.
I think YOU are guilty of stealing MANY hearts were your truth telling & upbeat comments!……YOU are a very nice guy Bill & my family wishes you well. You have GOT to recover…we NEED you here!
I should clarify the record on what I said about the org not following the doctor’s recomendations.:
The doctor; Dr Gene Denk advised that I go to the AIDS clinic in Los Angeles. Instead the org sent me ( realize that I was still a SO member at that point and was required to go where I was sent) to James M Keppler, a chiropractor in Sacramento who is not a licensed doctor. To assist me in arriving there the Chief Officer Freewinds ordered an engineer, Mickey Johnson, to rent a car, drive to LA and take me to Dr ( many of his patients refer to him as “Doc Keppler” though he is not a licensed doctor and told me at our 1st meeting that he had never treated anyone with AIDS. Since I was living at his house I obviously had to do as he said.
He advised me not to take the “deadly” meds the real doctor’s would give me. So the organization not only took me away from a real doctor but body routed me to someone who was totally unqualified in the field for treatment. They paid for his services by giving him Freewinds accomodations on his account. This was a Death Sentence narrowly avoided by my wife getting off of the ship and calling her sister for advice, who was a doctor at San Francisco General hospital, home to the longest operating AIDS clinic in the world
Good luck, Bill. I hope to enjoy many more of your interesting posts.
Thank you, Jere.
Yes, I believe that you will likely see many more comments from me.
Every one is a F.U. to those such as the Captain Freewinds who ordered my wife to end cycle on me 18 years ago as my demise was imminent and that no agency less than God could help me.
They send people to a doctor just to cover their ass.
That is my belief that they are capable of curing far more than they do but want to be able to decide who lives and who dies. That does not imply that they can cure anyone.
If you (meaning OSA and/or RTC) fail to ensure my demise, thereby atoning for yor failure 18 years ago which would have been a lot easier) I will be forced to conclude that it is YOU, not myself, who want to die.
Whether you live for eternity or die today is of no concern of mine.
I am just trying to wear my “HAT IN DEATH” I was evaluated for and given my “Hat in Life” as the post I had been on already for 15 years. So I continued to do that for another few years until some totally off-policy scumbag decided that you did not want dead staff members on the Freewinds, despite that fact that I could easily fog up a mirror as stipulated by an HCOPL.
I must confess, You have been learning from the errors of your ways.
Having released me to your detriment, you are still holding on to Heber and Shelly. Just imagine what they could write on Mike’s blog if you were stupid enough to ever let them loose.
I just thought of something:
DM craves Power, right?
And, POWER IS ASSUMED. Money is Power, so is control over people, sending them to the hole, etc.
Next is simply being able to Decide Who Lives And Who Dies.
And Therefore, the Power to decide who Lives Or Who Dies is not given, it is Assumed. DM has assumed the right to determine the fate of anyone for all Eternity.
Kennerado, the sad thing about that mindfcuk is that, IIRC, they ONLY sent folks to the medical professionals IF they were at Death’s doors, often or usually when it was too late for the patient. And scientologists, including myself, refused to go unless we had to be transported on a stretcher. As part of my need to recover from the mindset, I had a stroke when I was 56, 30 years after Flag kicked me to the curb like so much excrement. My wife INSISTED we call the paramedics despite my protests and arguments (I never really did lose consciousness or my verbal skills.). The Emergency Room doctor examined me briefly then sent me on my first helicopter flight to the hospital with the best Neurology department in the region, where I spent about 6 weeks in their Neuro ICU. Seems I owe more of a debt than I already knew to my brilliant, stubborn wife. The past dozen years have been a bit of a struggle, but it COULD have been worse if they hadn’t seen me in that magic hour, which would have happened if my still scientology-formed distrust of medicos hadn’t been overruled.
Twice that I am aware of, Hubbard refused to see doctors to give them a chance to fix what was wrong with him; Once his MLO ignored his blathering and she probably suffered for having done so. I suspect the two or more strokes he had in 1986 didn’t HAVE to kill his body, but HE refused to let them even try and no one had the brass ones necessary to simply drag him kicking and screaming to the hospital.
Kennerado,
the sad thing about that mindfcuk is that, they ONLY sent/send folks to the medical professionals IF they were at Death’s doors, often or usually when it was too late for the patient. And scientologists, including myself, refused to go unless we had to be transported on a stretcher. As an indication of my need to recover from the cultish mindset, I had a stroke 30 years after Flag kicked me to the curb like so much excrement.
My wife INSISTED we call the paramedics despite my protests and arguments (I never really did lose consciousness or my verbal skills.). The Emergency Room doctor examined me briefly then sent me on by helicopter to the hospital with the best Neurology department in the region, where I spent 6 weeks flat on my back in their ICU, surrounded by a bevy of pretty young, well-trained nurses, most with MD after their name . Seems I owe more of a debt than I already knew to my brilliant, stubborn wife. The dozen years since have been a bit of a struggle, but it COULD have been worse if they hadn’t seen me in that magic hour, which would have happened if she hadn’t overruled my still scientology-distorted distrust of medicos.
Twice that I am aware of, Hubbard refused to see doctors to give them a chance to fix what was wrong with him; Once his MLO ignored his blathering, which likely saved his life at the time, and she probably suffered for having done so. I suspect the two or more strokes he had in 1986 didn’t HAVE to kill him, but HE refused to let them even try and no one had the brass ones necessary to ignore him and simply drag him kicking and screaming to the hospital. Doubt *I* could have done what was right, even with what I now know — He was used to always getting his way and was loudly persuasive, as evidenced by Dr Denk’s having to dose him liberally with anti-psychotic meds towards the end.
Hubbard, and by extension all scns, AVOIDED proper medical treatment until it was too late.
I would bet that it’s still true, perhaps worse.
Sorry for the double-post. I’ve been up since before Dawn and have gotten even more fumble-fingered than normal.
Moderator: If you’d be so kind as to delete the less-clear of the two, I’d be indebted to you.
That is right, Jere. ( Gotta love this spell checker; it just changed your name from “Jere” to “here”. I caught it and changed it back…
In my case when I had end stage AIDS Dementia Complex my also brilliant wife took me to the ER. I was still declining the meds the doctors wanted to give me as advised by the chiropractor James Keppler (name not changed to implicate the guilty). This is only remarkable because a week earlier my wife had come to me to give her a heads up before I died, as she was afraid to go to the store for a carton of milk, fearing that I would be dead when she got back.
I told her at that time that I would be dead in 3 weeks. Why bother refusing to take the meds if you know that you will be dead anyway? My wife thought similarly
She then called the Freewinds and was advised not to see a doctor but to put me in a hospice to die. I have heard her tell this story to at least 5 different people.
In a hospice I would have not been treated for AIDS but would have just been drugged up and left to die. Their main stat is NBRTM (Number of Bodies Routed to the Morgue.
“Scientology processing will make you well” does not address the question of why so many OT7s and OT8s have died at relatively young ages. If there is a spiritual component to wellness then auditing seems to be bad for that thing. Yet another example of Hubbard delivering the opposite of what he claimed.
John, of COURSE the OT VII & VIIIs got sick and died because the ‘tech’ was incorrectly applied, or they were still connected to SPs (such as Davey-Boy, the super squirrel) or whatever — an infinite number of excuses they HAVE to have close to hand because their techniques DO NOT WORK; not as advertized, at least.
Darn, and here I was thinking that “Scientology Healing” meant healing the $camology bank accounts by injections of money, lots and lots of money, when the lack of cash flowing in causes the accounts and Deviant Malignancy much sadness and ill-health.
Pure Clayton’s (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claytons if you don’t know what I mean) Healing about : The healing you have when you’re not having a healing. His greed knew no boundaries.
The cure for being sick of Scientology is to leave. (Not legal medical advice)
Formost quipped:
“The cure for being sick of Scientology is to leave. (Not legal medical advice)”
I can’t see any more legal nor appropriate statement. Problem is, the complete cure can take a LONG while; 40 years in my case and I’m still working on it.
Great find. This ought to be part of a serious whole “academic” paper or book, or chapter at least, citing this and all the other history of Hubbard’s rationalizations for offering and selling the Scientology pseudo-therapy.
Psycho-somatic relief or the effect of a person’s mind on their physical (illness) state of their body, is something that is a field or high interest.
Hubbard smooshed psycho-somatic pseudo-therapy into “spiritual” pseudo-therapy.
So there will still be psycho-somatic therapeutic results, in some instances, and Hubbard’s just saying this is now “spiritual” therapy that is Scientology doing this now.
I think the problem of Scientology is the sloppy or lack of countries to regulate psycho-somatic therapies, which left the door open for Dianetics, and then the “religion angle” left the door open for the psycho-somatic pseudo-therapy of Dianetics/Scientology to smooze into this untouchable category.
And then Hubbard dressed it all up with the administrative policies and bureaucratic echelons and rules and “KSW” fanaticism and then the GO/OSA defense/counter attack/fair gaming “enemies” of the charade.
It’s a quackery pseudo-therapy movement, which apparantly does get some psycho-somatic benefits to some individuals, parading as a “religion” where it can do so in some countries, as Hubbard supplied all the “religion angle” dressing to the movement’s staffs’ behaviors to pretend act enough “religious” charade actions to bamboozle less than detailed minded “academics” so far at this time in world history.
But Hubbard stuck a couple of feet in the door, and Scientology’s not been legislated out of existence in the USA, and for US at least, the “religion” label is allowed to be stuck onto Scientology “churches” and activities. Sadly, it’s a long befuddlement operation, all due to Hubbard’s prolific powers to brashly find the loopholes and play the angles.
Chuck, I still call Hubbard’s “defense” policies to be the “mad dog school of defense”, because he attacked & punished everyone in the area, not just a properly-identified Psychopath or sociopath. If you caught Tubby on a bad day, the merest trifle could get you busted down to the lowest rank and beached, perhaps as an SP though you had none of the listed attributes of same.
Jere, How unfortunate and true, and certainly not religious nor “OT”. Hubbard wasn’t role modeling anything but role modeling how nutty cult bosses can get away with stuff when they lay on the false promises and totalitarian rules and long runway requirements keeping all the members and staffs off balance their whole careers or membership. The nasty clever irreligious cult charade “religion angle” religion founder. His quackery just didn’t cut it, and no matter how much false claiming and false labeling he did, his own “body-thetans” exorcism techniques predictably failed him at the end of his life, as the final pages of “Going Clear….” book reveal.
Scientology makes me sick, so I must be suppressed.
Well, if it makes you sick, then you must have done something to draw that sickness into your life. Try to think of just what you may have done to cause this sickness.
Did you go into any of their orgs or take any of their phony personality tests? That could do it you know.
If you want to stay healthy, you must be certain to avoid all contact with this insane criminal cult. I’m specifically referring to your financial health.
Eh=Eh observed:
“Scientology makes me sick, so I must be suppressed.”
Yup! Ya’ got it in one try: scientology itself is suppression.
Everytime I read articles like this on your blog, Mike, or Tony Ortega’s, I realize there is an organization weirder and cultier than my former religion: Mormonism.
Unbelievable, yet believed!!
Keep up the great work, Mike! You, Leah, Tony, and many others.
Bruce quipped:
“I realize there is an organization weirder and cultier than my former religion: Mormonism.”
Believe me, as a once-Christian, I’ve never thought Mormonism to be particularly weird other than the polygamy, which sorta sounded interesting to the horny teen I was. I hadn’t heard about the “cultier” practices of the Mormons, and I knew even less about the 7th Day Adventists, which a schoolmate was dragged into, poor guy. Around here, we didn’t badmouth other religions/sects much, as Pennsylvania has a long & strong tradition of religious toleration.
Trust me, Mormonism is culty! This forum isn’t adequate for all the details.
Anyway, regarding your comment on religious tolerance. I support that with this one caveat:
“It is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect and expose delusion and error.” – Thomas Paine
For me, this means every person can believe what they will and I am free to point out the delusions and errors of their beliefs. I don’t force the issue; I just point things out. The rest is up to that person.
Toleration.
Now, how do I know what is delusion and error? That is a whole other discussion! Suffice it to say the scientific method works. Objective evidence.
Bruce,
I don’t think details of Mormonism would be interesting to many people here; I’d get a little tired of it quickly, myself, but I’ve seen some stories around the ‘net and TV. Bizarre! But you’ve freed yourself from THOSE shackles. Now for both of us to put our experiences far enough behind us that we don’t bother about them at all; don’t talk about them except in response to specific questions, just let the cults die in peace (or pieces). I’m doing better, not hitting the scn-watcher sites until I’ve had two cups of coffee, and spending more time mocking the flat-Earthers and creationists than on scn matters, even the anti-scn books I’ve downloaded just for curiosity. I get too cranky when I’ve allowed myself to restimulate my scn experiences too strongly and my lovely lady doesn’t deserve that.