Freedom attacks the President of A&E Studios because scientology has been unable to arrange a meeting with him.
“the Church’s attempts to seek a meeting with A&E since March of that year, met with not so much as an answer nor was there a means of having “a meaningful conversation…””
Funny — we have TRIED for 3 years to get anyone from scientology to appear on our show. Nada. Zip. Not a SINGLE person has ever been willing to talk to us. They send threat letters from lawyers. They have even demanded meetings with the production company lawyers, but only on the condition that neither Leah or I would be present. (So much for “confront and shatter”)
The President of A&E Studios is not involved in the day to day production of The Aftermath. At all.
Leah and I certainly are and would be happy to speak with anyone from scientology.
This is a well-worn scientology tactic. It would be like if they didn’t appreciate the service at a local McDonalds and rather than talking to the manager of the store who was there ready and willing, even inviting them to discuss what they thought was wrong, they demanded the President of McDonalds address their concerns in an in person meeting. Then when the President didn’t grant them an audience, they claim it is evidence their civil rights are being trampled. And that is all just a smokescreen to hide the fact they stole someone else’s lunch, trashed the toilet and verbally abused the children in the next booth.
In other words, demand something you KNOW will never happen and then insist that it not happening is “proof” of a conspiracy against you to deflect from your own misdeeds.
Everyone can see through this posturing — EXCEPT scientologists. They are conditioned to accept this sort of thing and it makes perfect sense to them.
They go on with another of their lies:
“The Church has been more than forthcoming in providing valuable information in the past and the Church stands ready to provide accurate information now,” Pouw wrote. “Shouldn’t you be willing to converse with the Church? Or is A&E dead set on avoiding the truth to such an extent that the network is unwilling to meet to hear the truth?”
They have in fact provided nothing other than legal letters with “Dead Agent” packs attached along with photos of “ideal org” buildings as “proof” of their massive expansion. (Even in this Freedom article they cannot restrain themselves from repeating the “D/A” on the Headleys, Tom DeVocht and Amy Scobee as if the entirety of The Aftermath’s 3 seasons was based on what they had to say, or worse that their claims that they were “kicked out” of Scientology (after they escaped) proves they are liars?)
Scientology: We would LOVE to converse with you and hear your version of “the truth” — about The Hole, Shelly Miscavige, missing executives, Danny Masterson, covered up pedophilia, your stance on gays, how you justify the hatred of the Nation of Islam which is now a branch of scientology, your front groups, Miscavige’s lifestyle, the Ranches etc etc etc
But the truth is you actually don’t WANT to “converse” — you refuse to do so, but then claim it is A&E that is unwilling.
Here Karin, let me say it again: if you (or anyone else) is willing to sit down for a conversation, Leah and I will be there — anywhere and any time you wish. No need to try to get the people who don’t know involved, come straight to us. I am sure the world would LOVE to hear the conversation. How about it? Name the place and time…
Final thought: The best evidence of David Miscavige’s hand in this piece is the final sentence. Typical condescending, smarmy Miscavige:
Paul Buccieri has apparently been too busy overseeing such culturally relevant programs as Storage Wars, Parking Wars and Dog the Bounty Hunter to reply to these critical matters.
Peggy L says
DM is a sniveling little coward, a frightened little mouse who for all his bravado can’t come out of his hidey hole unless he’s surrounded by his sycophants. Of course his private leeches are kept in line out of fear. Fear of what?! That the sniveling little coward will toss one of his famous temper tantrums? That he might find some other legal team with even less ethics. That might be difficult but there’s probably some out there.
Peggy L says
Hypocrisy on oh so many levels.
When does “I was just doing my job” cross the legal lines, ethical lines? The cult’s attorneys have to know what a huge lie they hide behind the just doing my job standard line. No way they are not fully aware of every lie and abuse.
The Los Angeles DA isn’t doing their job when it comes to protecting Danny Masterson unless they are confused about who they are working for. The citizens or the cult, which job is more profitable? Working for two masters usually won’t end well. The same could be said about a tiny but powerful few in the LAPD.
No wonder all this sun shining on them makes them bit twitchy. Probably confused too that not everyone understands why they accept favors and money to “Just do their job” no matter who gets hurt.
Harlequin says
When ever I see the cult’s spokesholes use the word “truth”. I immediately hear what L.R.H had to say about “truth” being “relative” or a cult axiom pops into my head. Keep at it Mike, you and Leah are WINNING
Miscavige and Cruise Are Gay says
They are simply producing more brainwashing content for the folks trapped in the cult. Nothing to be upset about. Just recognize it for what it is and keep pulling rocks out of the hillside to expose this nest of vipers led by the psychopath Mr. Miscavige. While you’re doing that I’ll grab some more popcorn.
Kat LaRue says
As usual, they have no insight into how they come across. They live in their delusional little bubble world, and this illustrates this perfectly. They seem to think that will dupe the entire world, when in reality it just makes them look stupid. I think the game is up for them and they are feeling the heat. Their orgs are empty, their people are fleeing, their image is mud. Miscavige would be wise to concede defeat, but he will fight to the bitter end, making a fool of himself the entire way.
I went back to DC today and there were two cars at the org. I got a lovely pic of bobble mike sitting out front. I even left several aftermath cards right on the org sign itself. Nary a soul came out. Several people on the street told us ‘good luck’ and gave us support for the aftermath foundation. Needless to say, it was fun. I will upload the pictures to the Aftermath site.
Kat
jere lull (38years recovering) says
It’s so obvious that the organization — never falsely call it a “church”– doesn’t want to “converse”, it wants to proselytize with no chance for anyone to interject anything other than their strict party line.
jere lull (38years recovering) says
Their “missive” starts with scn attempting to state passive-aggressively that scn started trying to get a meeting with the President 4 months before “Aftermath’s first season aired. AND what ISSUES could scn take up with him before ANYone had seen the show? Meanwhile, “Aftermath” D/As that piece of delusional [expletive deleted] with the notice that IIRC starts every episode:”As of the airing of this show, scientology has declined to participate”. Come on, scientology; show us your mettle: Send Mike & Leah a 5-minute recording that they can run unedited, which strictly abides by A&E’s editorial policies, which are, I’m sure, published somewhere, if not only in the FCC regulations.. Then Leah can blow it out of the water with a single word:”REALLY!?” Let’s see DM or his chosen lackey say ANYTHING which will extricate them even partially out of the deep, dark hole they’ve been digging for years. I can dream, can’t I? And in that dream, he/they might deign to discuss something even in the same universe as the ISSUES “Aftermath” tackles every show.
Of course, IRL, the way it would go is Mike & Leah first discussing the upcoming scn clip; that it’ll be an attack, foaming-at-the-moth variety, which doesn’t address any issues other than how ‘bad’ Mike, Leah, et al. are/were, etc, etc. Exactly predicting what scn would deem a ‘proper response’ to Aftermath’s Truth Rundown ®. AND THEN one of them could say:”Let’s roll the tape” to introduce Davey’s latest foot-bullet, so BEAUTIFULLY created, so incredibly lacking in substance. Of course, the beauty and lack of substance would have been predicted, as well as its (probably) lacking that sand-box favorite insult (just barely):”POOPEY PANTS!” Other than that, could scientology’s offering even GET more infantile? At least at the sandbox, the “poopey pants” could reflect a fact of the situation. That would at least explain how DM’s video creations stink so much.
I’m still waiting, with somewhat-bated breath, for the Danny “Donkey punch” Masterson show. Having devoured what has been on-line, I’d love to see how the professionals would present the available material .Then let scientology run their “rebuttal”. I’d have said “Danny’s side”, except that that would allow his LAWYERS to get their licks in, and that would be even more unkind to his victims, since that’s what lawyers DO in this sort of case. They’re of the same mold as DM/scn, attack the attacker, never defend, always attack; even if their counter-attack has nothing to do with the issues in play. Like Ron, scientology can NEVER be defeated because it never plays a fair game that the opponents could win. Instead, they move the goal posts or the whole playing field mid-play. It’s as disgusting as it is effective. The only thing they can’t fight is the TRUTH, (from multiple directions ideally). I’m hoping that the Aftermath Foundation turns up a plethora of ACTIONABLE complaints about scn’s criminality. I’m not happy that individual scientologists might be ground up in the resulting melee, other than Davey, (But he’s not, IMO, a real scientologist).Since scientology is specifically a fundamentalist study which by definition can NOT change, those currently “in” and hewing to his selectively altered policies are members of *DM’s* organization, NOT scientology, even though he’s assumed the mantle of the “punching Pontiff” of an organization which calls itself scientology and might have been some form of a scientology some years ago.
I Yawnalot says
Wasn’t it Napoleon who uttered a comment once like, ‘never disturb an enemy while they are making a mistake?’ The more Miscavige gives speech & letter directives like this, that end up public the tighter the noose gets. Being a cockroach sees him diving for cover at the mere rattling of a door knob. One day he’ll be forced to defend Scientology in public discussion by his own minions – every word he has ever uttered from his bunker he’ll have to remember. His fear isn’t out here really – it’s the people in good standing that are the ticking time bomb. A&E is fast becoming his Waterloo. Want to bet he does a runner when push comes to shove?
Old Surfer Dude says
I don’t think he’ll ever fess up. He’s way too much of a narcissist.
Hey Miscavige! You piece of shit! You’re a coward! You’ve always been a coward.
BTW, you’re losing members hand over fist. Your members know what you’re doing.
Xenu says
The DM snark at the end is the censured version of;
“Paul Buccieri has apparently been to busy SCOHB to reply to these critical matters.”
Typical DM.
#angermanagement #badPR
Balletlady says
Of course “they” would be quaking in their shoes should Mike & Leah be anywhere NEAR “them” during an interview process. The little TURD is terrified to be seen in public because he fears he’d be arrested as in “you are under arrest, anything you say can be used against you in a court of law”.
Miscavige blew his one time TV interview…he looked like a worm squirming in his seat, very uncomfortable and totally unprofessional.
In reality IF David M was confronted by his two worst enemies on the face of the planet….Mike & Leah, David M would probably have a coronary arrest. Either that or his blood pressure would sky rocket & his brain would literally explode due to a stroke.
ANY “team” that David M WOULD send in, well, they’d have my sympathy because once they open their mouths & stumble all over themselves trying to answer those HARD QUESTIONS…with ANY resemblance to the TRUTH, …..when it was all said and done…..DM would make sure that this “team” would be thrown in the HOLE for the rest of eternity with no chance ever of obtaining a new “meat body.” I can only imagine David M launching himself across a desk or table to “get at” one of them.
Haven’t seen much of “Muffins”….all that blinking really didn’t do much for her, David M or COS. She looked like a complete fool. Any OTHER lawyers that would ever DARE to appear at a meeting with A & E lawyers etc. better be well prepared. I am sure Mike & Leah would make SURE that the A & E Attorneys are well informed.
Since “they” don’t want Mike or Leah PRESENT at any meeting…maybe the A & E Attorneys could wear microphones & ear pieces so that Mike & Leah could whisper in their ears the questions to ASK the COB Lawyers…& what answers the A & E attorneys might respond to the COB Attorneys…
If THAT ever happens…I want a front row seat……
BTW DAVID….WHERE THE HELL IS YOUR WIFE SHELLY & WHY HASN’T SHE BEEN SEEN IN PUBLIC OR AT ANY EVENTS STANDING BY YOUR SIDE AS IS THE COMMON PRACTICE WITH ANY CHURCH OR POLITICAL LEADER….A LIFE PARTNER IS USUALLY BY HIS SIDE OR STANDING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY???
Skyler says
Balletlady said: “Miscavige blew his one time TV interview – he looked like a worm squirming in his seat, very uncomfortable and totally unprofessional.”
Do you think that might have anything to do with the fact the little worm refuses to listen to anyone else? Refuses to take anyone else’s opinions? And anytime he perceives the slightest hint that anyone disagrees with him, he reacts by locking them up in The Hole or pysically beating them?
Of course, no one is ever going to offer him any advice or opinions that have any chance or running contrary to his own.
The result? It’s obvious that he is afraid to be seen in public because people who can speak with him in public are nothing like the people in Scientology who are scared to death to be honest with him.
The asshole has painted himself into a corner now from which there is little hope of escape and which should provide the rest of us with endless entertainment until the day arrives when he hears the words, “You are under arrest. Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law.”
Stay tuned. The rest of this story will surely be most memorable.
Jenyfurrr says
Skyler,
Have you ever seen that interview he did? I believe it was in 1992 with Ted Koppel (but in suffering from pregnancy brain … so could be wrong).
Here’s a link to a 25th anniversary of that on Tony O’s site where he provides some background from Mike, since that’s when he was actively involved at that level. I’d watched it before, but this background info plus reading the actual transcript here then watching how manic he seems plus realize some of the craziness he actually says… it sheds some light on the level of narcissism (as you said, listening or taking advice from NO ONE) that created this major footbullet!
Hope you’re having a good weekend!
Jenyfurrr says
Might help if I posted the actual link to which I referred (told you I’ve got serious P-brain!).
https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/14/25-years-ago-today-scientology-leader-david-miscaviges-nightline-appearance/
jere lull (38years recovering) says
BalletLady opined:”In reality IF David M was confronted by his two worst enemies on the face of the planet….Mike & Leah, David M would probably have a coronary arrest. Either that or his blood pressure would sky rocket & his brain would literally explode due to a stroke.”
Please, folks, let’s not even joke about a stroke or other lethal event. As a stroke survivor, I can say definitively that strokes are no joke.
AND publicly wishing him bad luck just plays into his martyr narrative, how beleaguered he is, with enemies on all sides postulating his early demise…. You get the idea. One thing that I brought away from the sociopath discussions a while back is that the sociopath most wants people to PITY him and his plight.
KatherineINCali says
I’m pretty sure Balletlady wasn’t actually saying she hopes Miscavige dies of a stroke.
She probably just meant he’d lose his shit & be very physically/emotionally uncomfortable meeting with Mike & Leah because he’s such a coward.
So sorry you had a stroke. Hope you’re well now!
Balletlady says
Exactly Katherine….I would NOT wish a stroke on anyone….my BFF had a full blown stroke at age 43, actually died 3 times during the horrific scenario & was brought back to life. The stroke left her completely disabled, she had to learn how to walk, talk, & take care of herself. She is now 66 & has now got to use a scooter as she can’t get around with her walker as well as she use to.
As you noted, I DID mean he’d go totally ballistic & would work himself into a frenzy where his blood pressure would be OFF the CHARTS & he MIGHT suffer a TIA or full blown stroke or heart attack since he had a deep penchant to over indulge in alcohol. I would NOT wish that on him, as rotten as he is….with his bad temper his blood pressure could kill him.
Jere I am please to hear you a stroke SURVIVOR….for a period of time I actually was a volunteer on a stroke support line (my grandmother suffered a stroke which left her paralyzed on her right side)…..no offense meant.
I don’t have to wish “him” bad luck…KARMA will intervene eventually….,there are plenty of people on the blog who’ve had their say as what they “hope” for him.
Aquamarine says
jere, I hear you, and I’m sorry you had a stroke, and truthfully I don’t wish a stroke on anyone including DM because wishing harm on others creates bad, harmful energy.
That said, its equally true for me that if he happened to drop dead from a stroke tomorrow I wouldn’t be sorry. I’d figure he “pulled it in.” 🙂 Seriously, it wouldn’t bother me at all. I’d be glad. I’d be relieved.
One less sociopath in the world. Something like that.
I guess I’m not a nice person. What can I tell you? Its hard for me to pretend to feel emotions that I don’t feel. Except if I’m purposefully acting – you know, like, for fun.
But as re something serious and real, its against my nature to pretend.
I feel what I feel and when I do, its unmistakable. If I don’t feel it, c’est la vie, I don’t give a damn 🙂
DM’s death would into the latter category. Actually, if I’m strictly truthful, it would have its own category; I would feel something; I’d be relieved and glad.
Tan says
Problem solved!
President of A&E Studios wil speak ONLY with Scientology COB.
In public.
jere lull (38years recovering) says
Tan said:
“Problem solved!
President of A&E Studios wil speak ONLY with Scientology COB.
In public.”
Let’s raise the steaks with a hotter grill fire:
Make that ON CAMERA” and on the RECORD and the kid will go hyper-nova.
Old Surfer Dude says
What?! You’re cooking up steaks? And you didn’t invite OSD! I’m a bit shocked, but, I guess I’ll get over it. DAMN! I want those steaks, and I want them now!
J. Swift says
Scientology Sea Org member Taryn Teutsch and her Scientology camera crew failed in their attempt last week to hijack a rape survivors rally — Denim Day — in order to force Scientology’s agenda on the event. Taryn and her fellow OSA members were asked to leave and this was caught on camera.
Scientology’s Office of Special Affairs failed in its phony Interfaith event in which forged letters from Dr. Cecil Murray of USC were published in an attempt to force a meeting with Disney CEO Bob Iger. Mr. Iger has been so busy skyrocketing Disney’s stock price, as is his job, that his staff ignored the Scientology forged letters.
Scientology gave up on targeting Mr. Iger after its fake event at the gates of Disney Studios in Burbank. failed. Tens of people attended the Scientology bogus event. The attendees were OSA members, a rented choir, and a few rented clerics. I was there watching Scientology trying to work its con job. It was as bad as Taryn’s attempt to run her con job on Denim Day along with her camera crew.
Scientology now demands a meeting with Mr. Buccieri. However, Mr. Buccieri has a network to run. He has a real job, this unlike the hacks at OSA whose social media jihadist machinations consist solely of attempting to impose censorship on a television show that exposes the depravity of Scientology. These OSA jihadists never address the substance of Scientology and the Aftermath but rather rage and lash out with lies, false accusations, and fraud.
Scientology can meet with Leah and Mike. However, a meeting with the actual hosts of the show would be far too dangerous for Scientology officials.
No confront OSA? You idiots roar on Twitter and fail in real life.
Take a meeting with Mike and Leah.
*****
OSA cannot get traction in real life and so it always takes its Fair Game con jobs to Twitter.
What happened to Miscavige’s $100 million Scientology TV network? What happened is that it was Dead on Arrival.
mk says
slay those MFs J Swift!
jere lull (38years recovering) says
J. Swift, My ever-so-helpful dyslexia supplied “OSA ‘phoned in’ its “Denim Day” hijack attempt. Your version was unnecessarily kind to the sociopath in charge at OSA, (DM, I suspect.)
Cindy says
Way to go, J Swift!!!! Couldn’t have said it better myself. “No confront OSA? You idiots roar on Twitter and fail in real life.” “OSA cannot get traction in real life and so it always takes its Fair Game con jobs to Twitter.” “What happened to Miscavige’s $100 million Scientology TV network? What happened is that it was Dead on Arrival.”
jim says
RE: JSwift
This just in from Faux News:
Mr. Inger, CEO of Disney announced today that Aftermath has been green-lighted for season 4. The continuing publicity from Screeology has kept the general public CURIOUS and flooding the studio for more episodes. As a public service to Screeology for their free publicity, and to provide what is needed and wanted from the general public, season 4 will include some of the episodes that were withheld, as well as an update with recent escapees with first hand experience and the accountant who just defected with the IAS financial records from the last 5 years.
Balletlady says
Thank you for the up date….we ALL want a front row seat as soon as the Aftermath 4 hits the TV Screen!
Thank you Mike & Leah, thank everyone on this blog, especially the former INS who keep us well informed.
Cindy says
Wow JSwift, this is great news! Thank you. Do you know if they will have anything on the Danny Masterson rape cases and the LA District Attoreny’s shameful protection of Danny Donkey Punch Masterson?
And tell us more about the accountant with IRS financial records who recently defected? Did anyone do an interview of him so we can watch it? If not, maybe you could interview him?
Jim says
How were their stats this week?
Jere lull (38years recovering) says
Jim said:
“How were their stats this week?”
STATS? we don’t need no stinkin’ STATS!
Cindy says
Stats? Stats this week? YOu don’t have the fucking rank to ask about stats!
Old Surfer Dude says
God damn right! We don’t need no stinkin’ STATS! STATS are for wogs!
Cindy says
Donuts are for UPstats.
Zee Moo says
Projection, thy name is $cientology. All that bullshit is for internal consumption. Miscavige and Parkin can’t conceive that anyone in the real world would see this and take exception to it. And they don’t care if any non-clam sees it.
“Nation of Islam which is now a branch of scientology,” Farrakhan gets well programmed minions and Miscavige gets what? A few dollars and some non-honky faces in the mOrgs. I don’t see either group getting much out of that arrangement. Though Farrakhan does seem to get a kick back on $cieno materials.
Who is playing Mussolini and who is playing Hitler? All I see is Moe Howard and Larry Fine.
jere lull (38years recovering) says
ZEE MOO SAid in part:
“…”Miscavige and Parkin”…
Isn’t that Miscavige/Parkin? because if they’re not the same, they’re following the same delusional script.
Rosemarie says
I love this from a commenter, “JJ,” above, ”
Parking Wars and Dog the Bounty Hunter haven’t been on A&E for 7 years now.” OMG! This is an example of their, “research,” just as it’s always been. NONE.
Skyler says
HA HA HA! What a great belly laugh I got from that. Wonderful catch Rosemarie.
How typical of the imbecile assholes.
Old Surfer Dude says
You’ve got a belly? Can we all sit around and make funny noises with our mouths! We just need you to pull up your shirt.
Jenyfurrr says
His timing is charming as usual, also. Any fans (of those shows, NOT co$ or DM! Lol) that see that are likely to jump ALL over them – The wife of D the BH has been in the news in recent months, as she’s suffering from later-stage cancer and been incredibly courageous/strong.
As usual, NO awareness or tact on the part of co$!
Peter Blood says
It’s like trying to have a truthful conversation with the Devil, Scientology is incapable of being honest. Being honest goes against every LRH & David Miscavige deliberate intent to deceive – a part of their essential nature. In about every respect $cientology is a form of Satanism. It can’t be reckoned with so must be ignored & banished.
Overun in California says
Well, how do you know when Scientology execs are lying?
Their lips are moving.
jere lull (38years recovering) says
Overrun said:”
“Well, how do you know when Scientology execs are lying?
Their lips are moving.”
It’s more basic than that: If you can SEE them, they’re lying in some way, particularly the Dwarfenführer (and his hyper-humongous ‘sets’.)
LDW says
I’m sitting here trying to imagine how it might look if Karin POW were to sit at a table with yourself, Leah and Mr. Buccieri. Just her and her stack of fake, easily dispelled propaganda.
How long before she runs out the door in terror as each of her lies gets meticulously dismantled?
She and dave are like little jerks throwing rocks at cars from an overpass. Chuck ’em and run gleefully into the night. No honor, no integrity, no truth, no value to society. Just a couple of assholes.
KatherineINCali says
Love this post. Excellent!
Old Surfer Dude says
OH! MY. GOD!!! Karin is being held as a POW! Run Karin, RUN!
Ann Davis says
The way dm isolates himself and has no real conversations with anyone outside of scientology truly is the action of a coward! I can’t think of a bigger coward than david miscavige. The leader of a religion? Unbelievable! But it’s not a religion, just insanity. I can’t even!! Beyond disgusting and despicable.
mike says
Well said Ann. I would love to know what goes through Miscavige’s mind. You’d think as the years pass, perhaps even a sociopath would soften. But even the so-called christian, Jim Baker, got out of prison and is still up to his same old tricks, duping old ladies out of their money. No shame, no conscience. Sadly, karma is not real, but the world would love to see some schadenfreude.
bixntrm says
And no real conversations with anyone IN scientology, for that matter. Who’s going to disagree with him and end up in the hole?
Chee Chalker says
Lol
Isn’t David Miscavige “far too busy” to ever meet with reporters? Or even, in some cases, unhappy Scientologists?
For example – he was too “busy” (read: afraid) to meet with Lisa Marie Presley and instead sent his sisters to do his fighting for him.
KatherineINCali says
That sociopathic asshole is afraid to meet with ANYONE, unless it’s a member who he’s planning to belittle, berate, and beat.
Cowardly prick…
Old Surfer Dude says
He sent in his sisters in to fight for Corn on the COB? What a pussy! How shameful can you get!
Hey idiot stick, you’re the biggest wimp I’ve ever seen. And I mean THE BIGGEST! You’re like a little boy who cries all the time.
KatherineINCali says
More like the biggest LITTLE pint-sized wimp. Or, pimp. ?
Old Surfer Dude says
He’d never make it as a pimp. The girls would beat him up.
PeaceMaker says
Good point, Miscavige should be the one to meet with Buccieri – or if he’s too important for that, then certainly so is the President of the network. A&E’s annual revenue is around $3.8 billion, while Scientology’s “business” is less than a 10th of that, so the counterpart of Miscavige would not be the President, but maybe one of the Executive Vice Presidents who deals with programming, or even someone below them responsible for Aftermath.
Nan B says
Exactly, what a wuss!
pluvo says
Such (Knowledge-) reports as Valerie Haney’s are what David Miscavige/Karin hates most – next to that Mike Rinder escaped and he can’t “destroy him utterly” (and Leah Remini):
Valerie Haney provided a stunning opening to Leah Remini’s third season in its premiere episode Tuesday night. After working in Scientology’s Sea Org for 22 years, she had escaped the church’s international management compound, Int Base east of Los Angeles, by hiding out in the trunk of an actor’s car as he drove back to LA.
Her escape was especially problematic for Scientology not only because it was so recent and because Valerie could provide a new layer of confirmation of what others had said about the base, but also because of her position, working so closely with church leader David Miscavige and his wife, Shelly, who disappeared from Int Base in 2005.
https://tonyortega.org/2018/11/30/the-valerie-haney-interview-scientology-smear-tactics-and-where-shelly-miscavige-is/
Wynski says
I’m glad the Church of Sociopaths does this kind of thing. Just as I’m glad that insane cult members like Fool post here. It shows the rest of the world that these guys are nuts and it just isn’t being said by ex-members. From the horses mouth flies the insanity.
Kristin G says
I’ve seen this on STAAD and it’s absurd. Like the Just Ice 4 Mom blog, saying on Denim Day, A&E and you (MR) orchestrated an ambush on Taryn with a whole camera crew, etc. blah blah. As you say, “$cientology is shameless”.
Who does the writing and scripting for all of the lies? Is it DM, or does he just give an outline for people to write? How many people would there be involved that KNOW they are making stuff up? Certainly Slimy Eddie?
I was surprised to learn Expose Network is run by a 19 yr old kid. He must be forced to study all the fake stories he posts. I think a “higher-up” recently made him block about everyone. Don’t want him Exposed to the Truth. The post that got me blocked was in response to his tweet about Valerie Haney and that she was dismissed from $cientology, and I answered -“So, she was dismissed, and then removed from the property in the trunk of a car??”.
Brian says
Scientology is like a snarling junk yard dog. All the dog wants to do is frighten, snarl and bite.
Scientology is hopelessly ignorant of itself and has no clue that their communications to the outside world are revelations of that cluelessness.
Thanks for posting this mike.
It’s the revelation of Scientology, what it is, which is its greatest enemy. And just like FP, the more they communicate the more they become an aversion therapy against Scientology.
Please keep communicating Scientology. We see who you are and know what you are doing by the quality of your propaganda and immoral nature revealed in your communications.
Communication is the universal solvent to Scientology’s demise.
Aquamarine says
“Scientology is like a snarling junk yard dog. All the dog wants to do is frighten, snarl and bite.”
And kill.
As it has been trained to do from puppyhood.
As are the Koolaid Drinkers trained to provide “a snarling defense” (a Hubbard phrase) of “the Power” (Miscavige and Hubbard) on command, just like trained attack dogs.
These people, and I use the term loosely, don’t THINK.
Nothing has to make sense. They don’t even know if what they’re doing is going to be effective, nor do they care. They’re human junkyard dogs.
They are trained to do one thing and one thing only, and that is to attack, on command.
If what they do is deemed successful they’ll be thrilled by a pat on the head and getting thrown a piece of meat by their Master.
If what they do doesn’t work and their Master is displeased and angry with them, they’ll cower and cringe at the harsh tone of his voice, and slink away.
But they’ll always remain ready to leap into action, to go instantly, thoughtlessly again into attack mode whenever they get the command, hoping once more, striving once more to please the Master.
Because pleasing the Master is ALL they live for.
Aquamarine says
And when the Master is displeased, like dogs, they never say, “Well, we just carried out your orders, Sir. We did exactly what you told us to do. We did our best. Looks like it wasn’t such a great idea, Sir.”
No, they don’t say that. Saying that would make them sentient human beings and that’s not what they are.
Like dogs, ALL they know or care to know is that the Master is pleased with them, or displeased with them.
When the Master is pleased, they are, if not happy, at least, secure.
On the other hand, like dogs, when the Master is displeased, Their world instantly becomes a scary, uncertain place. They’ll do anything to not feel this way.
Chris Shugart says
Am I the only one who finds the COS mindless harangues tedious and boring? Their lame posturing has never changed, and I don’t think many people care anymore. It’s the same old hokey indignation time after time. It’s a bit like watching someone flick a spoonful of cream-of-wheat at a passing bus. It’s an underwhelming gesture that has all the drama of a childish temper tantrum. The world has passed them by, but they can’t see it. And they likely never will.
Brian says
You are not the only one Chris. Bubble people have been out of touch for so long and have imagined themselves as powerful OTs for so long that what they communicate is precisely that “out of touchness”.
Their communication can be summed up in one word, a word that they word cleared and have agreed to as the MO of treating all critics:
ATTACK, NEVER DEFEND
And that is why they will never speak to Mike and Leah. They would have to DEFEND themselves.
If they met with A&E without Mike and Leah they could ATTACK them till the cows and they would not be there to defend.
ALL OF THEIR BEHAVIOR IS AN EDUCATED LEARNED RESPONSE TO THE SP AND CRITIC DOCTRINES THAT ARE CAUSING THEIR PERSONALITIES TO BECOME DERANGED.
There is nothing mysterious about their behavior. Their behavior is the expression of the insane words from Hubbard roaming in their minds.
And since they have bookoo bucks, they can pay money scavengers called lawyers to defend their deranged depravity.
Badafuco says
*puts “Flicking spoonfuls of Cream of Wheat at passing bus” on list of things to do.
Which TR should I use?
Skyler says
Chris Shugart said: “Am I the only one who finds the COS mindless harangues tedious and boring?”
With respect Chris, I believe you may have forgotten “laughable”. So very laughable.
jere lull (38years recovering) says
Skyler threw into the ring:
“Chris Shugart said: “Am I the only one who finds the COS mindless harangues tedious and boring?”
With respect Chris, I believe you may have forgotten “laughable”. So very laughable.”
Here, you BOTH are SO RIGHT!
After a few seconds of Dwarfenführer on my screen, I have to turn to a different channel/video or turn it all off.
Chris Shugart says
Sky, there are comedies I can watch over and over again and still laugh even though I know the bits by heart. Frankly, the COS’ bubble-world idiocy just doesn’t strike my funny bone. Like I said, it may just be me. Rather than chuckle at the absurdity, I’m more inclined to plead, “Can someone please make the stupid stop?”
Jennifer says
Wow! You really see through that BS! I love seeing it picked apart and exposed for what it is. And LOVE the McDonald’s analogy! Woo Hoo!!!
Mary Kahn says
(Eyeroll) You pretty much said it, Mike, except that the church of scientology and david miscavige are obviously very desperate. If this were a truly thriving church, why would dave give two shits about a couple of malcontents and their failing little show.
david miscavige cannot take any responsibility for his shrinking church. Since the 80’s and david mayo, it seems there has always been a scapegoat to blame for the church’s failings. I am just happy that there are fewer and fewer people that step into this cruel church and will never suffer from its abuses.
Blub Blub Blub. You and your church are going down, dave, and it’s no one’s fault but LRH and yours. Blub Blub Blub.
LongTimeGone says
I like your omission of capital letters! The first time I figured it was a mistake, the second time I realized that it definitely wasn’t. Well done!
jere lull (38years recovering) says
Mary Kahn opined:
“david miscavige cannot take any responsibility for his shrinking church. Since the 80’s and david mayo, it seems there has always been a scapegoat to blame for the church’s failings. I am just happy that there are fewer and fewer people that step into this cruel church and will never suffer from its abuses.”
SINCE 1950, Ron has found nothing but scapegoats to explain why his results are different than his assured predictions. Nothing but excuse, after excuse, after excuse ….
It only made sense to me when someone said scientology Works as DESIGNED, not as ADVERTISED. That’s more true than I could have believed when I first read that opinion.
Cindy says
The church is very much shrinking. And the ones still in are mostly UTR, afraid to leave because of disconnection. I put the Russell Miller book about LRH on hold at the library so that when it is available, they’ll call me in to come pick up the book to read. It’s been many weeks and I’m still on the wait list. So there are many someone’s in the San Fernando Valley in CA who are reading Miller’s book ahead of me. That alone tells me that there are more of us out here outside the church than there are inside. OR maybe it tells me there are UTR’s inside the church reading Russell Miller’s book too!
Mat Pesch says
Scientology and the little coward hiding behind the curtain (with a bottle of Scotch) are both predictable and lame. No one buys it any more.
SILVIA says
Oh boy, miscabage is desperate. What an affront that Leah and Mike are still succeeding while his leadership has been exposed for what it truly is – a bunch of abuses, frauds, crimes and more lies that any other prior sociopaths that do nothing but destroy those who don’t bow when they walk in.
It seems he has nothing else to do but whine.
On the other hand Mike and Leah could gather thousands of letters of support and evidence to back up the many facts and trues they have had the courage to tell through the Aftermath.
Different purposes, different results.
Cindy says
Yes and not only that but Leah has won many awards for her and Mike’s A&E program which tells the truth about DM and Scn. They have the kudos and chops to show for their work and David has nothing.
Kim says
Hmmmm….if they continue to cry about the show…..this must mean…season 4 will be happening!!! Yes! ???
Roxann says
I am hoping for Season 4 also….then continue with as many seasons as it takes to bring the entire “church” down! Good post Kim!
Old Surfer Dude says
My sentiments exactly!
Aquamarine says
Yes!
KatherineINCali says
Xenu willing.
It would be incredibly stupid if A&E didn’t continue the series, considering how many people watch. Millions.
Plus, the series won an Emmy and was nominated for another.
Roger Larsson says
Scientologists clicking on the mouse goes high. On google the first three pages belongs to the cult. Has Elaine Siegel reappered?
JJ says
Parking Wars and Dog the Bounty Hunter haven’t been on A&E for 7 years now. That little dig was probably not the best way of dispelling their reputation as out of touch and disconnected from society.
georgemwhite says
The irony is that one sensible word out of Scientology would do a great deal for healing. But Miscavige is so entangled in lies he cannot even start any real conversation. Scientology is a total mess from the bottom of the bridge to OT VIII. Miscavige has created his own cult right on top of Hubbard who based his thoughts, writings and occult leanings on Blavatsky. The subject of Scientology is not original and this pride needs to leave all Scientologists. Scientologists take pride in calling me Torquemada. They are ignorant of the fact that they are not quoting Hubbard. They are reading what Hubbard copied from Blavatsky. and so on….
Jenyfurrr says
*FAIL to respond (sorry, no edit option for me this time)
Jenyfurrr says
And… mic drop!
(EXCELLENT response… and one they’ll be petrified and daily to respond… which IS proof that they don’t want an open dialogue. They want an “in” to slander and threaten. But you know… confront and shatter, communication and all that!)
Dice says
They fear you.
Old Surfer Dude says
Hell, I fear them! What are we talking about?
I Yawnalot says
What a sesame seed bun? Too much sauce – what? Just keep believing it’s all healthy for you and you won’t have such fears. Looking like a bowling ball is ‘in’ you know?