It would seem the Office of Special Affairs has been weathering a shitstorm from the COB recently: “What are you useless cocksuckers doing about Tony Ortega, he gets a bigger audience than I do and I am paying millions for ads, click-farms and even a 24 hour a day TV network.” He also kicked their butts in the Masterson case subpoena and has been disseminating the activities in that courtroom far and wide and they are not going well for for Masterson or scientology. And there is no sign he is slowing down or going away any time soon…
In response, OSA rolled out a new “campaign” — a “noisy investigation” of Tony Ortega. It’s right out of the L. Ron Hubbard Playbook.
“Now get this as a technical fact. Not a hopeful idea. Every time we have investigated the background of a critic of scientology we have found crimes for which that person or group could be imprisoned under existing law. We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts. Over and over we prove this.”
“When we need somebody haunted we investigate.”
” When we investigate we do so noisily always. And usually mere investigation damps out the trouble even when we discover no really pertinent facts.
“It’s almost funny. We sometimes learn nothing useful and yet because people heard we were investigating their consciences sent them into headlong flight or sudden collapse. There’s power in the question alone!
“…investigate the writer, not the magazine, and get any criminal or Communist background the man has.”
In the storied scientology tradition of “doing what Ron says,” they kicked it off on 21 July by announcing they were conducting an investigation into his “enablers.”
This technique is an old standby scientology has used for many years. Announce an “investigation” which is then followed by supposed information from anonymous sources then used to smear the target. Scientology avoids the liability of printing falsehoods by attributing the lies to “sources” knowing they will never be required to reveal them. There are no actual sources.
Here is the first one a few days later.
Of course, though long on adjectives and hype, it is short on facts, but more importantly, anything worth even noting. Whether it is true that Karen gave money to Tony, so what if she did? There is nothing wrong with this. And especially coming from scientology who collect millions from people which is used to do their dirty work… But they turn this into a “scandal” and use it to insert all sors of other falew information into the equation.
Next up another old trick they use. Scientology often digs up information on people through nefarious means. This is called CDC or “Covert Data Collection.” This is commonly taking people’s garbage, sending in plants or using PIs to get finance, phone or email data (remember Tony Ortega was hacked by a PI working for scientology). The problem with doing this is they cannot use the information without it becoming clear what they are doing. The solution is to sleaze out the data using “anonymous sources”…
I have no idea if the information is true. I don’t know if Kernan Coleman actually is Artoo45 or even cares that they are saying this. Neither do scientology. They are simply trying to make it seem dangerous to read Tony’s blog or comment. The same thing with their next “breaking news”…
I doubt Andrei cares.
This is simply an effort to intimidate Tony Ortega — to “cost him his job” and “Ruin him utterly if possible” (See L. Ron Hubbard Playbook above).
They saved their lamest for their stable of failed “writers” to rail against Tony with fabricated stories about him being a sordid criminal and bigot and even worse: a failed writer and a failed blogger. They use these puppets for the same reason of avoiding liability.
The sheer volume of these blogs is proof that Tony Ortega is a huge concern for the powers that be.
Their desperate pitch falls apart with one simple question: If Tony is such a failure, why are you (and scientology) bothering to spend any time trying to smear him?
This is a pretty lame stuff. But in the minds of the OSA minions they are complying with “Source” and can point to it and say “Look, we got him good this time.” They all want to believe this is “effective” and if they just keep doing what Ron says, eventually the magic will happen and Tony Ortega will be “Shuddered into silence.”
The delusion is great in scientology…
Scieno 45 says
Until the FBI clear Ortega of all involment in this paedephole ring he will be a Pariah, and not really credible
Mike Rinder says
Hahahaha — perhaps the most ridiculous comment that has ever appeared here and there have been some doozies over the years!
How about this one then?
Until the FBI clear Miscavige of all involvement in this international sex trafficking ring he will be a Pariah, and not really credible.
Thanks for bringing “scientology-think” to view once again.
SassMasterSupreme says
I wonder who they think they are convincing? Any one who sees these deranged articles know exactly what they are trying to do. I also wonder if Mr. Ortega would have grounds for harassment or defamation cases against the stand league.
exTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty says
OSA has their statistics and anyone can study up what causes OSA downstats and frame their responses to any OSA attacks to cause maximum backlashing downstats right back at Scientology.
Davis Miscavige’s history of staff beatings, hazing and humiliation leadership always is number one comeback.
Two, Xenu and “body-thetans” explaining, tying Xenu and “body-thetans” to exorcism and OT 3, 4 5, 6 and 7, the five exorcism levels of Scientology which is the ultimate spoiler alert and public service to defining what Scientology actually is, it’s a massive long quackery exorcism sales outfit.
Three, Hubbard admitted he failed, and that he’s not coming back to earth after he died.
Miscavige is number one.
Xenu and “body-thetans” is two
Hubbard admitting he failed, and isn’t coming back, is number three.
Just come back with downstat content, and skip any engaging with their smearing.
Their smearing is Hubbard’s policy that OSA is forced by the laid in stone Hubbard policies. It’s just unthinking malicious Hubbard snake brained required.
Skip even responding to the smearing.
Stick to Miscavige, body-thetans-Xenu, Hubbard, all which cause OSA their downstats.
And personally, I like Xenu and body-thetans and Hubbard best, since Miscavige will be gone someday, and it’s Hubbard’s quackery which has all of Hubbard’s flaws in it that will linger.
And it’s Xenu and “body-thetans” theory that most need spreading to spoiler alert and public service warn the public forever of Scientology.
Just define Scientology and include Xenu’s earth dump of “body-thetans” resulting in the five secret exorcism levels of Scientology, causes public to sanely know that doing Scientology is not the right move in their lives.
Shawn says
‘But they turn this into a “scandal” and use it to insert all sors of other falew information into the equation.”
What does “falew” mean? It doesn’t show in a Google search.
Love your blog and sometimes wish it was longer in content.
Everything else I would say has been said in the other comments.
Mike Rinder says
Typo. Falew is false.
Jere Lull says
Of COURSE scientology is intimidated by Tony: He’s brilliant, educated, and literate
unselectedfloofgoofer says
Allow me to add one adjective to your list. He is “industrious” to the max. He will chase a story and spend more time digging up the facts than a big old hound dog with the scent of a ham bone.
Tony is one Hell of a reporter and in the fight between the pro cult people and anti cult people, we are all very fortunate that Tony is on our side.
You bet cha!
There are plenty more adjectives that apply to Tony. But if I could only choose one, it would be “industrious” because I have never known anyone who works longer or harder than Tony Ortega.
KatherineINCali says
Jere —
Laughter! Pretty much sums it up.
Oh, not to mention he’s telling the truth. They’re not so fond of that.
Tick tock, Miscavage, you filthy, lying prick. Truth hurts. Here, have a shot. But no Macallan for you today. You deserve the cheap shit, at best.
gorillavee says
Might seem like an obvious question, but if they find crimes every time, without fail, then why do they have to frame people who criticize them? Why kill dogs, why send sex toys to their place of employment, why harass them at airports? Find the crimes under existing law, report to police, and be done with it.
I Yawnalot says
Scientology, the technology of lying.
exTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty says
And stolen religiosity. And quackery. And snipe hunting. And blame the followers when the quackery fails, which is inevitable.
Scientology Hubbard just draws out the false claimed practises so that when the scam quackery fails, they already have you on paper record praising how great the quackery did good to you, LOL.
That’s another unique part of the scam. Getting the members to agree to their lesser achievements and inflate the achievements as equal to Hubbard’s cosmic level false claims.
It’s a Guiness Book of Records winner level scam.
I sometimes remember how my second spouse’s mother was literally sick to her stomach when we toured her through the LRH Exhibition in Los Angeles at the HGB building first floor big open lobby area where the LRH Life Exhibition is located. She had to sit down several times, she got so sick listening to Hubbard’s ridiculous self praise false claims.
Cayden Richards says
One of the main reasons I finally left for good was these hate sites by Scientology.
What is really crazy is they think this is helping them in any way! Lol.
This just proves what the critics say; that Scientology is a dangerous cult out to crush it’s opponents and can’t be questioned.
KatherineINCali says
Exactly! They literally don’t get it. Good for you. I love hearing why ex-members leave and what the catalyst/last straw was.
I know there’s usually not just one thing that starts a $cientologist to doubt (gasp!) the organization but whatever it may be, it gets the ball rolling, so to speak.
I hope you didn’t have to suffer familial disconnection like so many others.
Jens TINGLEFF says
That’s it? Three people?!?
Phoey! Bring back ReligousFreeDumbWatch
(Here I’m AssUMing that the RWF backwater of drivel has slithered off the Internet already – I’m not about to sully my Internet connection by actually looking for it.)
And lovely work getting outed, Artoo45 and Dodo. But for real status, we’re going to need to see paper leaflets distributed in your neighbourhood and/or legal letters.
Jere Lull says
Oh, if they ever get around to trying o cost ME my job! (I’m comfortably retired.) About all they might come up with was that I became unsuited to hold ANY job at Flag/Flog, not even that of an RPF inmate. Funny, the companies I worked with in the 40 years since thought I was good enough to pay me a comfortable living.
Baby says
OH Mike… great picture of you and Mr. Tony ” Da Man” Ortega. Thank you! Baby Bunker.
Back to reading your blog. Been gone too long.
Mike Rinder says
Hello and welcome back. So sorry to read of your recent medical issues, but so happy your came through!
Baby says
Thank you Mike. Yep I am healing very, very slowly… You know I worked in Mental Health during my career. I’m sure according to Scientology that you know…I ” Pulled it in…” Yep, I now am aware of that…ha..
GL says
It’s all just the flailing limbs of slowly deflating corpses sitting at keyboards hitting random keys while the pouting and powdered pompadour of the pickled prince precious and trainee necromancer waves his magic wand (not his little brain that remains hidden…although…) to try and keep from going under.
Todd Cray says
What I find fascinating about this is the tone-deafness. (BTW, this is just from the screenshots alone; I’m sure that the “news articles” have a lot more of the same.)
The bit about “large donations” Mike already mentioned. And here I thought those conveyed “status” and gaudy trinkets.
Then there’s “creating hatred and divisions between people” and “treating friends in a despicable manner.” Sounds a lot like “disconnection”, except that the latter also extends to your own flesh and blood!
“Twisted, abusive, obsessed” No, you didn’t go there, Dave!
“Failed writer.” So failed that he had to resort to publishing a thriving blog–whose numbers by far eclipse STAND and the cult website combined. Or so failed that he had to mooch of the VA and finally start a religion to make a buck?
So “failed” that more people will read the screenshots on this blog than people will read the “articles” on STAND?
So Tony is of the OPINION that the Bible sounds “silly” to him. While Hubbard states as a FACT that Jesus was a homosexual pedophile.
Careful with lofty hyperbole such as “prison of hate.” It may remind folks to pick up a copy of “Prison of Belief” which brings us back to disconnection (which is sure to follow).
“Hate blogger.” “Failed writer of fake news.” “Minor infamy.” STAND may not be the place to bring up these terms!
“Imagine a man” impersonating a doctor or scientist. Thanks to Elron, we don’t have to “imagine” that.
“A checkered past,” “many failed attempts to appear brighter than he is,” “his true vocation is fiction” passed off as facts, science, etc. If anyone in cult “leadership” ever grasps the implications here, this PDF will get you the RPF.
It’s the cult’s mantra–so it must be true–that the more you are attracting opposition the more it must be true that you are right and that you are succeeding. So by the cult’s own obsessive activity, Tony is going places! Congrats, Tony!
M.C. Mayo says
Meanwhile here in downtown Toronto, the org sits empty, crumbling, broken windows, home to pigeons and rats, an eyesore in one of the hottest real estate neighbourhoods. But ooh, those dogged OSA ‘researchers’ leave no stone unturned in their quest to unmask a coupla ordinary blokes.
If only they could use their talents for niceness instead of evil.
Sheri ray says
So what if people contribute to Tony’s efforts? The only ones who care are scientology & honestly probably 3/4 of group don’t care either. I had never even heard of “stand” until watching Leah & Mike’s show, so what little membership they have are their only readers.
Todd Cray says
The problem with being a one-draft “writer”–a “typist” may be a better term–is the nonsense that results. Hubbard grandly proclaims:
“Every time we have investigated the background of a critic of scientology we have found crimes for which that person or group could be imprisoned under existing law. We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts.”
Sounds grim, doesn’t it. Until you read further:
“It’s almost funny. We sometimes learn nothing useful”
So which is it? Everyone criticizing scientology has a criminal past? Or: No matter how hard we try, “sometimes” (3%, 55%, 99% of the time?) we can’t find anything at all.
About such innocents, he writes: “and yet because people heard we were investigating their consciences sent them into headlong flight or sudden collapse. There’s power in the question alone!”
In other words, it’s not about finding the truth; it’s bullying and defamation, pure and simple. Which raises the question why this is necessary as “We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts.”
As usual, the problem every liar faces is keeping their story straight.
Jere Lull says
Talk about mere investigations sending them into headlong flight! Hubs got on a boat and steamed as far away as he was capable of: the Mediterranean, from where he couldn’t/wouldn’t be extradited to stand trial for his ACTUAL crimes.
Karen de la Carriere says
The statement that I give large sums of money to TONY is hilarious.
Not that long ago STAND alleged I was funding Leah Remini and the Aftermath ! LOL
And that I was funding Mike Rinder as well.
Back in the day Anonymous had a slogan
DOCS OR SHUT THE FUCK UP !
Of course there are no docs, no evidence, just *manufactured* made up falsehoods.
And let’s not forget that if I REALLY was FUNDING Tony Ortega that would make me one of the most popular
activists around given Tony’s popularity and how he is respected and admired.
Scientology Inc itself is funded through thuggery, extortion, Sea Org members arriving in a gang and locking someone
into a room for hours to extort their savings, overwhelm their targets to the point of subjugation to release their funds.
Elderly seniors forced to take out multiple credit cards simultaneously to cheat credit card companies, charge public over and over again to re-pay new money for messed up procedures to “repair”.
Mirror Mirror on the wall, who is the biggest money criminal of them all ?
Chee Chalker says
That reminds me ……
Karen. I think from now on you should just send my money via direct deposit.
That way, you’ll save some money on stamps and I’ll save myself a trip to the bank …
(I wonder if my comment will be used as “proof” and STAND will consider me a “source”
Karen de la Carriere says
CheeChalker
Do you have Zelle, Venmo or Paypal ? ROFL !
FreedomLover39 says
Very nice post Karen.
I’d like to highlight one sentence written by this STAND writer. They called Tony ……
“a failed writer of fake news, a disgraced editor who ran a newspaper into the ground and an Internet troll, paid to attack decent people.”
For anyone reading this, if they are not knowledgeable of the facts, it seems to me the first thing they would do is try to find out something about Tony Ortega.
There is so much evidence (or as Karen called it, “Docs”) this statement is complete nonsense. I’d just like to consider one or two parts because I think they are so good for laughs.
Almost every major newspaper in recent history has been driven out of business by the Internet and news websites. Anyone could pick almost anyone who has ever worked on a newspaper and make the stupid claim, “they ran the newspaper into the ground.” Anyone who gives this more than a passing glance will realize just how ridiculous it is.
I don’t think there is any need for me to ridicule what they wrote any more. I think it all easily speaks for itself.
But if anyone is interested in knowing more about Tony Ortega, I’d just like to say that I have read a good deal of his writing and … when this horrible criminal cult finally collapses into a pile of dust, I believe Tony Ortega will be recognized as one of the greatest reporters and chroniclers of the injustice of it all. I believe Tony will always be remembered as one of the greatest freedom fighters of our time.
P.S. Karen and her husband (Jeffery Augustine) are both also real great Freedom Fighters themselves!
Karen de la Carriere says
Dear Freedom Lover,
Very nicely expressed. Tony Ortega is a world class journalist and the blather they write is likley to placate the latest hissy fit from Miscavige.
Who else would believe their prattle and babble talk with no real substance.?
Ok time for some more videos with more revelations. I am motivated !
Todd Cray says
Let me guess. You’re funding Big Psych, too. Or maybe they’re funding you? These things get confusing so quickly when you’re pulling them out of you know where.
FreedomLover39 says
Sorry Todd. Please excuse my confusion but I don’t know who you are addressing with your post. Could you possibly make that clear?
Perhaps you are not familiar with this blog? There is a reply button at the bottom of each post. If you want to reply to a specific post, you can select that button and your post will be shown as a reply to the person you selected.
Todd Cray says
I was addressing Karen, and I DID use the Reply button to do so. That’s how my reply ended up right behind Karen’s post instead of at the bottom of the thread. Now why it didn’t indent it is anyone’s guess.
Karen de la Carriere says
Dear Todd,
I made a video *PROVING* I was funded by Big Pharma ! LOLOLOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLkGbLNaaTg
Todd Cray says
Thanks, Karen, I enjoyed the video.
The cult’s diligent dissemination of pamphlets no one ever reads “activated the multitudes” to create a “hallelujah moment” where the “masses rise up.” Impressive! I’m not sure that Joe Stalin would have been down for the “hallelujah” bit but other than that it sounds like something copped from one of his speeches. Complete with the “masses” of ronbots in the room “rising” to celebrate their dictator and the landfill he’d created.
Better rush to the bank and cash those psych checks. “Psychiatry’s global extinction” draweth nigh as a new age of touch assists and Lisa McPhersons is dawning.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Dear Karen.
You ARE one of the most popular activists around.
And when I get some money, I will send some to Tony.
I would only hope and strive to be in the same game if not the same league as you. Love, Bill Straass
Jere Lull says
Karen: Just to look at your avi, they can tell you are rich, able to finance any number of effective attacks against them, and their consciences are SO worked up over their litany of crimes, they project the very worst they can think of (not so much) upon your beautiful self.
Karen de la Carriere says
Thank Jere,
I liked your input here.
On another site, someone said their was a rumor that I was also secretly funding the Taliban and the Wuhan lab !
Laughter.
love to you
Karen
Andrea Garner says
I’m picturing Tony grinning as he reads each new STAAD post. They make Tony’s case with how deranged they sound.
nomnom says
STAND’s emissions are like the squeal a deflating balloon makes.
Briget says
Oh, I love this image!! 😆
Gravitysucks says
😀
John Prince says
How can they “cost him his Job ” if he’s an “unemployed blogger “?
Jere Lull says
John Prince queried:
“How can they “cost him his Job ” if he’s an “unemployed blogger “?
OR they can take something he values away from him, like a pet dog (or rabbit, I guess. I forget which movie that was.)
I suppose I shouldn’t be so literal to their insanity, doing everything they can think of (not much) to disable or “kill” ANYone who they think might possibly, sometime, be a threat to Dwarfenführer’s tiny little realm or what little peace of mind he has anymore.
mwesten says
These sites really say something about the great value and efficacy of scientology. I’m surprised the masses aren’t beating down their doors to get up the Bridge what with all the love, wisdom and insight their practitioners routinely demonstrate. Why wouldn’t someone spend half a million bucks to achieve this kind of enlightenment? 🤔
Rosemarie Tropf says
Wow. If ya think about it they (Staad) gaslight their readers all the time. They also (scn)gaslight their staff and public with false stats false reports of success and false reports on who is an SP or not. In my opinion it is literally The Wizard of Oz. Lol
Briget says
Just don’t look at the man behind the curtain…
Jere Lull says
CHILD behind the curtain, that is. It doesn’t seem he’s matured much past 16 when he dropped out of school and joined the SO.
Jere Lull says
Wizard of Oz!? More like the Wizard of Id.
Loosing my Religion says
Recently Tony was interviewed by a french tv as someone very well inforned about the cult. In France scn isn’t really loved by the government. I don’t know what happened with that interview but certainly what Tony can say has a weight.
Artoo45 says
Mrs. Burnside . . . I’m an enablah! You know you’ve really arrived when these assholes go after you.
Clearly Not Clear says
You aren’t just an enabler Artoo, you’re a star enabler, a champion enabler, a connector to the truth, a supporter of goodness and a cheerful friend.
You should be so proud.
Kernan Coleman says
I’d like to thank the Marcabian Academy for this incredible honor. While it’s a thrill to have my work recognized at last, just being nominated is delicious. I shall treasure this Golden Footbullet™ and I share it with all the Bunkeristas, Clambakers and ARS alumni who made it possible.
Jere Lull says
Don’t forget the Anonymous, Kernan.
Robert N Eckert says
Then I saw his blog… now I’m an enabler!
M.C. Mayo says
I just sang that out loud.
Todd Cray says
I couldn’t leave it if I tried
Jere Lull says
Enabling others to fly FREE, that is. Freedom is so under-appreciated in the enterprise calling itself scientology these days.
Andrea Garner says
A very well-loved enabler 🙂
Kernan Coleman says
<3
Mark says
Artoo!
The Puny Puerile Pouting Pontiff is having a hissy fit…Never mind him, my mobile Marcab As$hole Decimater(MAD) unit is on its way to baptize him with buckets of a proprietary Defcon 7/pig feces solution. When I asked them about this rather unusual blend of ingredients, they muttered something about a “proper theta entheta dynamic tension in a liquid comm line that an Arslykan Muppet could fully duplicate.” I gave them a bewildered shrug and said,” Whatevah, y’all da experts!”
M.C. Mayo says
The best words.
FreedomLover39 says
Mark? Can you tell me from wherence I can purchase one of those units? (Mobile As$hole Descriminator?
Note: “wherence” is much like “whence” except it is an adjective whereas “whence” is an adverb. I just feel the need to make that clear for the grammar impaired amongst us.
Note: “amongst” is a …. Oops! Out of time!
If so, can I purchase them from the same outlet that sold me the Gaydar units as described on The Office?
Mark says
FL39,
Same outlet, yes!
😋
Andrea Garner says
“wherence” – amazing 😀
Kernan Coleman says
🙂
Jere Lull says
If you want, I’ll contribute the contents of our little boat’s holding tank to your weapons store.
Mark says
Jere,
Yes, please…and thank you!
Chee Chalker says
On the one hand, Hubbard said “We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts.”
Then he goes on to say that sometimes during their “noisy investigations” they discover “no pertinent facts” or they “learn nothing useful” about the people they are investigating.
So – which is it? Do they ALWAYS find critics to have criminal pasts or do they sometimes not find anything at all?
Janedoe2 says
Touche, Chee Chalker. I noticed that same discrepancy.
Cara P says
I assume this right here is the reason that they don’t ever stop “investigating.” Until they find something, they will press on, but most people will cave before they even find anything useful and they will have achieved their goal.
I still agree that it’s contradictory (like many of Hubbard’s statements), it was just a thought!
Alcoboy says
Finding a “criminal past” on a critic is not limited to Scientology. The Mormons do it too. If you leave the LDS church because you decided it wasn’t true the Mormons will say it’s because you broke some commandment somewhere. You must have masturbated, had a homosexual thought, drank coffee on a regular basis, etc. As for critics, well, they’re criminals because Satan is prompting them to criticize the church. Just another common denominator between the Church of Scamology and the Church of Joseph Smith of Latter Day Suckers.
ValR says
Well damn, I’m not even going to be exposed because I use my real name when I comment there. And since I’m retired, I can’t lose a job I don’t have, and if someone were to attack me, the people I know here know about scientology dirty tricks and would laugh off the attack and protect me.
They are really in trouble if this is the best they have. The large majority of people reading this grade school type attack will be more likely to sympathize with the person being attacked than the attackers.
It’s a shame it took getting out of scientology for me to see just what a petty person Hubbard was and how he made all his followers just as petty. I am glad that wasted time is behind me.
Anonymous says
I bet more Scientologists read the Bunker than read STAAD’s pathetic drivel.
Jere Lull says
It’s been proven by actual ‘net stats. Tony has a fairly highly-ranked site; scientology’s multiple sites may as well be blank empty HTML files for how little traffic they generate. AND for how much truth they portray. I won’t get into how childish they are.
otherles says
Is there a stat for telling lies?
When I was growing up here in Minnesota I was taught something about the practice of name calling:
“Sticks and stones may hurt my bones but names will never hurt me.”
Yes, I did just engage in name calling.
ValR says
I’m sure OSA has a stat for telling lies. In the GO, we were drilled relentlessly on TR-L (Training routine lie). OSA says they abolished the GO and they are the replacement. They don’t bother to mention that they took the worst of the GO and built on it to make them what they are. GO was child’s play compared to the ruthlessness of OSA.
Jere Lull says
otherles admitted: “Yes, I did just engage in name calling.”
And it was entirely justified and proper in that instance.
Marti Carlson says
The irony is that the cult is shooting itself in the foot (known as “glutz PR” within their ranks) by disseminating to the world further confirmation of their despicable actions, e.g. harassment and bullying of those who disseminate truth about their abuses. Stooping so low doesn’t look good on a cult that already has a very bad reputation thanks to people like Mike, Leah, Tony, etc.
Jere Lull says
And it doesn’t help their cause a bit when they engage in the exact same behavior we predicted they’d resort to.
Scribe says
“Now get this as a technical fact. Not a hopeful idea. Every time we have investigated the background of a critic of scientology we have found crimes for which that person or group could be imprisoned under existing law. We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts. Over and over we prove this.”
A technical fact? Hardly.
“we have investigated…”
“we have found crimes…”
“we do not find critics…”
“…we prove this.”
The above statements are Hubbard talking from his own bias; there is no ‘we’ as he is the sole author of Scientology.
Once he sets himself up as ‘source’ those playing along have severely handicapped their thinking, as evidenced by these silly, ineffective smear campaigns.
Trying to silence these critics is like getting into a physical fight with your hands tied behind your back and your legs duct taped together.
Phil Jones says
Some years ago when we were still “under the radar”, we were at Author Services in LA for an event they were having. We were out of Scientology as far as we were concerned but keeping it under wraps so that we wouldn’t lose the kids.
I’d been reading Tony Ortega in the Village Voice for a while at that point.
While we were at ASI I was having a conversation with senior executive Markus Wuethrich. I asked him how things were going. His response was, “fine, except for that Tony Ortega”.
Now, I’m not sure why he’d mention that to me unless he was fishing to see what my response would be, but inside I have to say I was cheering a bit. Tony’s exposing of Scientology abuses was definitely having an effect.
Shawn says
From just what you said Phil, he name dropped to see if you replied “who is that?”. And your access was being watched somehow.
Name dropping to find out who is knowledgeable when they shouldn’t be.
Balletlady says
As you know I am a “never In” yet having read & heard so much about COS my head is spinning with horror, sadness, & so many questions that don’t get answered.
Just HOW do they get away with all of this shit show. WHERE IS SHELY for instance?? Seriously….a “wellness check”…………….WTF….seriously………….????? the question
is answered with “Shelly doesn’t want to be bothered to make an appearance”….and THAT is an acceptable answer?
The LAW & LEGAL AUTORITIES don’t have to actually SEE a “warm living body”. ….they take the WORD of a COS Spokesperson?
WOW WOW WOW……legally speaking how many of US could have “done someone in ” & hid the body somewhere & THEN told the AUTHORITIES “Well, she doesn’t want to make a personal appearance”??
OK OK OK….so there truly ARE dead bodies or hidden bodies or people held in captivity against their will out there somewhere, Shelly is NOT alone…BUT a ‘BIG organization/church like COS…THAT’S their answer & the “legal authorities ok this???
Danny Masterson…”I did NOT have sex with those women”….sound like Bill Clinton who then admitted that he DID have sex with those women, although maybe she cooperated. BUT then there’s our former “OTHER GUY”….who also claims innocence in the same criminal act of RAPE & so far like Danny M…he too has gotten away with it….at least so far.
Ahhhh dearest Mike…you MUST put yourself up there with TONY….for YOU are ONE HUGE PAIN IN THE ASS for them. Truth be told…you & Tony are running neck & neck as to just WHO is the BIGGER pain in the ass.
Like the old saying goes “meanwhile back at the ranch”….they running around like chickens without a head trying to find DIRT on just about anyone who will stand (no pun intended) up to them.
CRIMES????? IF YOU’VE NOTHING TO HIDE………YOU HIDE NOTHING………………….
Susan Harbison says
“The LAW & LEGAL AUTORITIES don’t have to actually SEE a “warm living body”. ….they take the WORD of a COS Spokesperson?”
The authority of the police is limited. If anyone cares about the welfare of Shelley Miscavige they can go to a court and ask to have a Guardian appointed to investigate the situation. The court will have the matter VERY thoroughly investigated.
I don’t know why no one has followed the correct procedure to check on this woman.
Jere Lull says
“…find OR manufacture” dirt, that was (according to the big, portly guy).
Balletlady says
Well, he WAS a “science fiction writer”…….so he’s good at manufacturing BULLSHIT!!!
There people who DO NOT WANT to hear “good things” about others…..some of those same people like to hear the dirt/train wrecks/misery news.
Jere Lull says
He wasn’t even an average science fiction writer; just a penny-a-page PULP fiction writer.
Balletlady says
His BIGGEST Sci-Fi SUCCESS is and always will be COS.
Lron was able to snare people into his self manufactured fake STORY line, Xenu and all………..& “Clear The Planet” & convinced thousands of people to buy buy buy for $$$$$$ his load of CRAP…………….now that alone says a lot about his ability as a “writer”.
Chris Shugart says
I take some comfort and satisfaction knowing that the eventual downfall of the COS is aided by their misplaced certainty that Hubbard’s kicked-in-the-head tactics actually work. When they don’t, they either pretend that they did work, blame some SP, or scapegoat a staffer with ethics, or worse. Then like Wile E. Coyote, they double down and repeat the futile process again and again.
Jane Doe 2 says
Mike said, “This is simply an effort to intimidate Tony Ortega — to “cost him his job” and “Ruin him utterly if possible” (See L. Ron Hubbard Playbook above).” Well if it is true as they say that Tony is an “unemployed blogger” then he has no job to be taken from him. And as for “ruin him utterly”, it has already been proven that Tony Ortega has way way way more followers than Scn even though Scn pays click farms to give them clicks to try to show they have followers. And even though they got their Scn station on tv, no one watches it. What are the stats of how many watch that lame Scn station? None.
Jere Lull says
IMO, the downfall of the enterprise calling itself scientology is guaranteed by its head squirrel, Dwarfenführer®.
Free Minds, Free Hearts says
Wait. Karen DeLaCarriere donates? EVERYONE donates to Tony, we love Tony. And outing Dodo, Artoo45? Do they think people will be scared by this? How pathetic this is. And what is really funny is that can’t find a bad photo of Tony – the guy is just too handsome for them.
PickAnotherID says
Speaking of “enablers”, I’m still waiting for a response from $cientology to the challenge I made to them regarding their continued enabling of Hubbard’s “Stolen Valor” medal claims. I picked them apart on Tony’s blog last year, and still ‘crickets’ from $cientology.
The facts, and the challenge, can be seen here:
Part 1: https://tonyortega.org/2020/11/04/l-ron-hubbards-stolen-valor-a-new-breakdown-of-his-bogus-medals-by-a-military-veteran/
Part 2: https://tonyortega.org/2020/11/07/medal-by-medal-scientology-founder-l-ron-hubbards-stolen-valor-is-laid-bare/
Part 3 – The Challange: https://tonyortega.org/2020/11/09/how-scientology-can-prove-us-wrong-about-l-ron-hubbards-sheep-dipped-valor/
Oh! Almost forgot. I also help fund the ‘Bunker’ by using the Amazon link on his page when I order from there.
Jere Lull says
“pick”, they never respond. They can only attack, attack, attack. They can’t discuss issues as they have no legs to stand upon, absolutely no defense.
Jere Lull says
“STAND” is a complete waste of effort and ‘net bandwidth. It’s idiots yelling what their leader orders them to say into an empty echo chamber of a room. No one else can hear them scream. Nor cares.
Miss Dutch says
Does anyone, and I mean ANYONE read the STAND/STAAD blog besides the people who write for it? I’m kinda doubting that even the rank and file Scientologists bother with it.
PickAnotherID says
But STAAD is ‘striking a blow’ (snicker!) to counteract the negative publicity from Tony’s latest story on Danny Masterson’s lawyers being handed their heads by the judge during the last court hearing in California.
Mark says
Miss Dutch,
Nah, no one reads that sh$t.
Potemkin Blog.
But, if you listen closely…you can hear the sound of a tiny,
hair-plugged fleet admiral’s sphincter clenching…
Jere Lull says
You’re right, Miss Dutch. No one but us scn-watchers READ the balderdash generated by the OSA guys and gals behind STAND/staad.
Jere Lull says
OMG! Do they really believe that an obvious set of lies in the STAAD ‘blog’ is “an effective blow delivered? There are few if any non-scns ever reading their balderdash. I’ll almost guarantee that, other than OSA personnel and other scns forced to click over to their site, ALL the clicks they receive are us, the folks who KNOW how truthful Tony is and can spot their self-serving lies a mile away, in my case, a thousand or more miles away. Such maroons. I sometimes used to stop by to see how correctly their pronouncements are reported by the scn-watching sites. I don’t anymore for fear of upping their stats.
Kim says
Pretty sure he has stepped foot in an org. He had lunch with the Karen Pouw lady. 🤣. Be sure to reach out to her Mike for a comment. As Tony says I’m sure you will let us know if she gets back to you. 🙄
Chee Chalker says
On the one hand, Hubbard said “We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts.”
Then he goes on to say that sometimes during their “noisy investigations” they discover “no pertinent facts” or they “learn nothing useful” about the people they are investigating.
So – which is it? Do they ALWAYS find critics to have criminal pasts or do they sometimes not find anything at all?
Kim says
Hmmmm….your guess is as good as mine.
PartTimeSP says
Yes, at CC Int, I believe, back in 1999/2000.
Zee Moo says
Dodo and Artoo are treasured citizens of the Bunker and I consider them my friends. As I periodically donate to the Bunker where’s my ‘Outing’ or ‘attack’?
Scicrit says
Yeah. I’m feeling left out too. I’ve done a little enabling – where’s my coverage?
Chee Chalker says
IIRC, I met Artoo in Denver and he looks exactly like Peter Tork of The Monkees. I fell in love with him instantly!
Frodis73 says
Omg, I love this.
Jere Lull says
Zee, you’re too loveable for them to attack.😍
Bixntram says
My favorite smear: “Ortega is a Spanish surname. It derives from the latin urtica, meaning ‘nettle’.” I love it. Hey, no wonder he turned out to be “pure filth.”
If they haven’t “ruined” Tony by now, they never will, and they know it. The smear campaign is for internal consumption, to show the minions they’re “doing something” about this mega SP. Or, they just want to keep Miscavige off their backs.
Mark Kamran says
There is no Canadian name in it ” we aren’t angels”.
This report is bias.
And again angel and demons are pure…..No dark shades….
mwesten says
“Miscavige” is a Pennsylvanian corruption of Myszkiewicz (Polish) / Miškevičius (Lithuanian), from mysz/miš meaning “mouse.” 🐁
🤨
Dan Allen says
The Spanish word for nettle (Urtica dioica) is actually “ortiga.” There is a Spanish word “ortega” which actually means “black-bellied sand grouse” (Pterocles orientalis).
Peridot says
Dan Allen – Oooh… You’ve delivered a Word-Clearing smackdown. That’s gonna hurt!
Jere Lull says
The trouble with their attacking Tony (or Mike) is they can’t fight TRUTH, any more than they can fight the tide coming in over them.
Glenn says
The “play book” says; Every time we have investigated the background of a critic of scientology we have found crimes for which that person or group could be imprisoned under existing law.
The US government, who Scientology ALWAYS said was antagonistic to it, finally applied the “play book” tech and imprisoned many of its hierarchy for the largest espionage ever committed against our government.
Scientology is the kettle calling the pot black. It’s history of crimes is abundant so maybe it should shut its stupid mouth.
Jane Doe 2 says
YEs! I second that suggestion: Scn is the kettle calling the pot black. It’s history of crimes is abundant so it should shut its stupid mouth. Besides the Snow White break in and stealing of documents (for which many GO staff including Mary Sue went to prison), there was the killing of Lisa McPherson and coverup.
Glenn says
Jane Doe
Fraud and misrepresentation in dealings with governments has been committed by tons of staff members. Sadly none of them who’ve left feel safe enough to come forward and spill the beans. I’ve spoken to numerous current staff who told me they lied their asses off to consular officials in efforts to obtain visas. They all justified the fraud as being “the greatest good……” but none would confront the fact they could be permanently banned from travel to the US if caught. Just dumb as a box of rocks. Brainwashed?
Jane Doe 2 says
Yep, clearly brainwashed.
Jere Lull says
They’re the pot calling the new, shiny kettle black.
scientology is an antiquated has-been of a self-help swindle finally succumbing to market forces and folding in upon itself.
Clearly Not Clear says
Does anyone read this drivel? It sounds like nyah, nyah nyah, Susie is a horse face, Joey blows pink bubbles and the teacher is an alien, level of insults.
I’d be embarrassed if my church tweeted anything like this. It’s juvenile, immature, cranky and the kind of thing that should get the bitchy, tiny voiced, complainant, a session of soap in the mouth.
I find this pathetic display of temper reinforces the wisdom of leaving $cientology.
The repetition of their attack ‘strategy’ over the years, when Mike has revealed the steps, is such a bald faced example, each time they do it, it means less.
Someone in court calling the cherch to task, on their harassment, merely needs to lazily point out the STAAD drivel and wait patiently while the adults in the room wade through the distasteful display of ad hominem.
To lighten up the tedium, they could play bingo with the favorite And most repeated words, like: apostate, (makes me think of prostate), and bigot, (makes me visualize a cartoon ish angry LRH, mocked up as a paper machier large figure on a stick, in a drunken parade).
Just for fun, what other words would y’all add to the bingo game?
Mark says
Hmmm….here we go:
A twisted, abusive, obssessed, desperate hate blogger, bigot, hack, unemployed journalist…who spews…bile, vitriol, lies, hate…
Sounds like a description of Hub-lard and Mis-ravage!
STAAD Sick Tools Aiding Arsehole Dave(you’re welcome, dear leader!)
Aqamarine says
It wasn’t me Mark. I swear it up and down. Sideways too!
Zola says
I suspect this drivel will end up in a ‘Dead Agent’ pack, and become mandatory reading for ‘handling’ anyone who gets labeled ‘PTS’ due to any exposure they had to the evils of Ortega, or Rinder for that matter. I’m sure there is a thick dead agent pack on the both of them.
Despite membership ranks full of supreme beings, and a planetary management team led by the tiny tot genius himself – and for all their widsom and teknology – scientlogy is incapable of seeing how their vitriolic missives are viewed by the public.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results…or words to that effect.
Bixntram says
Two of my favorite heroes beaming for the camera; that made my morning.
Davina Ireland says
Loved seeing that photo too! Especially Mike looking so healthy and happy a far cry from when we saw him on Panorama documentary when he was pulled out the hole to deal with that other “bigot” John Sweeney Haha 😂
Joe Pendleton says
Well … One of the guys above DID position Tony with Shakespeare’s complete works …
Bottom line … Good pub for Tony’s site … May increase his audience … Bet Mike Scandling even checks it out now that he knows who Tony is …
Jere Lull says
I expect that more scns will become regular readers of Tony than non-scns regularly visiting the religious bigots at STAAD, who can’t even spell their own name, ffs.
Mark says
Jere,
I love playing with that acronym:
STAAD Super Tough Arslykan Asshat Dipshits
STAAD Silly Twits Asserting Apex Dominance
STAAD Stinking Twerking Anonymous Assholes Dripping
STAAD Space Titans Assembling Anachronistic Detonators
and so on and so forth…🤓
GL says
Spewing Trash And Necking Demento.
KatherineINCali says
Mark —
You kill me. Love you 😂
(Kat AKA JaxNGold from the Bunker)
Mark says
Kat✌🏾😁
Jere Lull says
Keep it up, Mark. No put-down can ever be funny enough to counter their deluded entheta. Or funny enough to match their attempted insults. I wonder if they’ve noticed how hilarious their copy is?
Mark says
Jere,
I doubt it. They are too busy being UTTERLY SERIOUS SAVIORS OF THE UNIVERSE!😉
grisianfarce says
It is Hubbard policy to attack ‘enemies’, but also not to put any attention of negative things (don’t feed the trolls?). Hubbard dismissed his enemies as proof scientology was being attacked for doing the right thing, resulting in his greatest success of creating confusion and calling it certainty.
Jere Lull says
That’s a technique he stole from “1984”. failure = success, receiving derision = success, ANY public mention = good PR. Always spinning horrible upsets as positive.
EXCEPT “Mission Into Time”, which made no secret of how disastrous that ‘expedition’ was. I truly believe he failed as badly as he reported, and worse.
Jere Lull says
One thing Hubbard couldn’t abide was anything negative said about him or scn. That got him all in a lather EVERY time, just like Pavlov’s dogs. Exactly like them.
Jane Doe 2 says
Yes that’s true Jere, and even more so for the diminutive Davey Miscavige. He can’t stand anything that makes him look bad in any way, shape or form. He even spends lots of money on hair plugs to make him look good for his audience and his close ups.