Here is a recent item that came in from one of our correspondents.
What is interesting is the double standard it presents without any apparent irony.
It is promoting the wonders of the internet and spewing out a bunch of meaningless statistics — for all the massive advertising and hundreds of linked sites and millions spent to make their internet presence so “powerful” my blog — which has NO budget, no team working on it and no massive advertising is consistently ranked HIGHER than Scientology.org by Alexa! But set aside the stat mumbo jumbo and the feeble “successes” (this is seriously the best they could come up with out of millions of supposed visitors clamoring for information about Scientology on the internet?) this is saying we are spending your money to create a presence on the internet.
And meanwhile, out of the other side of their mouths, they are saying: : “It is out ethics to get information about Scientology on the internet” — the internet is apparently ONLY for “wogs”. They can look at the internet to get information about Scientology, in fact, we are spending millions of your dollars to try to reach them — but DON’T YOU DARE LOOK YOURSELF.
After all, ALL lies about Scientology come from “a couple of unemployed bloggers that occupy the lunatic fringe of the internet….” And if we are in fact the lunatic fringe, why are they worried?
But even more, if they actually believed their own bullshit, they would SEND Scientologists to our websites. After all, they keep telling them that these websites are PROOF of how well they are doing. You know, the squirrels are squealing because of how much expansion there is…. Thus, they should want people to get the “proof” of their amazing expansion by experiencing the squealing squirrels first hand….
Funny they don’t practice what they preach?
Introducing the world to Scientology: Over 22 million website visits in the last year alone Visitors to scientology.org come from all over the world to find the answer to the question, “What is Scientology?” Ads directing them to the website run around the clock as part of the biggest dissemination campaign in Scientology history. This campaign is entirely made possible by grants from the IAS. Visitors to the site have viewed over 78 million pages of information on Scientology in just the last year—and nearly 320 million pages since the campaign began in 2008. That works out to over 7,000 pages per hour or 2 pages per second. The website is translated into 16 languages and has hosted visitors from 23,349 cities in 231 countries and territories in the last 12 months. To enable visitors to respond, the site provides a place for people to ask questions and make originations. Here is what just a few of the visitors toscientology.org have to say: “I have been reading and looking into Scientology for a few months and am considering furthering my interest. Can you please advise the best way for me to achieve this aim?” “Greetings! We are 17 students in northeastern India. We would like to join your church. Please send us more information as to how we can be part of the Scientology Church International.” “I am currently teaching English as a second language in Mexico. I will be returning to the U.S. very soon and I am interested in Scientology. I’ve been watching your videos on YouTube and immersing myself in learning about it. I look forward to meeting you.” “In Kinshasa (the capital of the Democratic Republic of the Congo) there is no Church of Scientology. Could you give me the name of someone I could talk to and share with?” “Hello. I’d like to visit your organization. I want to bring my two sons with me. I am particularly interested for my 14 year old who has had some problems at school, in communication with us, and in his lack of attention to things. I would like all of us to take some courses.” “I have a renewed interest in your organization. A number of years ago I was in one and I think what I did was called auditing. Do you still have the records and results of a test I did? If so, can I talk with someone about it?” “Hello. I have interest in the Scientology movement and wish to know more. I would very much like to find somewhere locally I could learn more about it. As a recent graduate I fear I need something to help shape my life.” The Scientology Dissemination campaign is made possible by the continued support of IAS members. |
Additional Note: These supposed traffic numbers do not line up well with the main resource for tracking website popularity.
According to Alexa.com, Tony Ortega’s website is TWICE as popular as scientology.org in the US.
This blog, with just word of mouth alone, has a similar popularity to scientology.org in the US despite the huge money the RCS is pouring into paid advertising.
Here are the Alexa numbers.
(Note that the most popular website is #1. Thus the lower the number the more popular the website)
Tony Ortega.org: Global Rank: 88,144 Rank in United States 14,290
Scientology.org : Global rank 121,129 Rank in United States 30,326
Mikerindersblog.org: Global Rank: 150,429 Rank in the United States: 30,907
Jgg says
So Mike, that means that you have 22 million followers and Ortega has 44 million.
Mike Rinder says
Yeah, I guess I have become a true “cult leader” — way out here on the lunatic fringe of the internet…. 🙂
Indie8Million says
Well then, Mike, it looks like we’re all out there, on the fringe, right with you
I that like being on the third spiral arm?
Richard Lloyd-Roberts says
These are the true unedited letters from the website:
“Greetings! We are 17 students in northeastern India. We would like to start our own church as we hear its very lucrative. Please send us more information as to how we can be part of the Scientology Church International and have our own version of the “hole”. Please tell Mr DM that our Dad is Mr TATA who very rich.
“I have a renewed interest in your organization. A number of years ago I was in one and I think what I did was called auditing. Well I say I think it was auditing but after getting some in the Independent field I know it wasn’t really auditing but some squirrel version of it. Do you still have the records and results of a test I did? If so, can I talk with someone about it? because I want to sue you for false advertising and I don’t want my private and priest records made public.
POTUS
Washington, U.S.A.
“In Kinshasa (the capital of the Democratic Republic of the Congo) there is no Church of Scientology despite the claims that the COS has an Ideal Org in South Africa. We walked 1000 miles to go on course and it was closed.
Could you give me the name of someone I could talk to and share with my concerns as I donated my last beans to make the org ideal”
Democratic Republic of the Congo
“Hello. I have interest in the Scientology movement and wish to know more about why you treat Sea Org members so badly. I would very much like to find somewhere locally I could learn more about your recent bad press. As a recent graduate of journalism I fear I need something to help shape my life and my very sucessful brother Tony Ortega said you were a good target to go after.
England
“Hello. I’d like to visit your organization. I want to bring my two sons with me. I am particularly interested for my 14 year old who has had some problems at school in teaching him about disconnection and why its a good thing. My ex husband is in communication with us, and in his lack of attention to things sexually makes me want to cut him off. I would like all of us to take some courses on your GAG 2.
Mexico
“Dear Mr Swami Exalastical Leader Mr Miscavich,
I interest in your company. I understand that you good as long time leader and husband. Mrs Shelly must be lucky lady. I would look up to you but as 4’2 Taiwan man I taller than you. Friend told me many people think you do good things in making real estate deals and me want to do course on this. I aware me sinner and so want to seek you as god.
PS what mean this? “It sucks to be Miscavich?”
tony dephillips says
🙂
Robin says
Should add a coupla more wins to that were just recently posted on their website:
I’d just like to thank you again for keeping us informed about the Tax Status of every parishioner of your Church.
Thanks again.
Your Friends at the IRS
We really appreciate all those dossiers (the one’s stamped “Priest Penitent Privileged Files”) you’ve sent over to us.
This is information we can definitely use!
Best regards
Your Friends at InterPol
Sorry that our joint operation in Greece was blown.
What can we say?
Thought you may have picked up a thing or two since Snow White.
Oh well.
Anyway.
The remote viewing program still seems to going well despite the loss of Ingo.
Those OT Levels you secured for us still seem to be working.
Glad to see that you are working diligently at making the rest of your grade chart unavailable to the public.
I mean we can’t have this sort of information getting in the wrong hands.
We’re all glad to see you’re doing your part for National Security.
A big high five from the Clandestine Services and the Director!
Espiritu says
Mike,
You claimed that it is lie when Miscavige says that “Visitors to the site have viewed over 78 million pages of information on Scientology in just the last year.”
But he is not lying.
He is telling the truth and you are just too blind to see it.
Don’t you realize that he is counting ALL sites, INCLUDING all Indie sites and INCLUDING yours?
The reason that you did not see this is because you are not a marketing genius like DM.
(Thank God)
But all jokes aside, when you pointed out that:
“…..if they actually believed their own bullshit, they would SEND Scientologists to our websites. After all, they keep telling them that these websites are PROOF of how well they are doing. “…. ,
it reminded me that I have actually suggested to coolaid drinking Scientologists that they go to the FreedomMag website and check it out as a way to dead agent the COS’s childish bullshit about well-known Indies. When a person goes to one of these junior-high-school-clique-mentality sites they can’t help but wonder, “But who are these guys, REALLY?”
I realize my last statement was a bit unfair. Most junior high schoolers are pretty smart and see through the kind of stuff on that site instantly.
Jose Chung says
Espiritu,
Don’t wander to far away from your Copper Ground Rods.
OTVIIIisGrrr8! says
Something can be done about it.
Then again, we in the Church of Scientology can outlaw whatever we don’t like because we run this planet. Therefore, a public notice is in order: The Church of Scientology to Outlaw the Internet:
http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2012/10/19/public-notice-church-of-scientology-to-outlaw-the-internet-in-2013/
The Oracle says
This is all meaningless for me unless cast against other searches. For instance, how many people are searching for hot wings daily? Are people more interested in hot wings than Scientology? How many people are searching for recipes? How many people are searching for a taxi? David Miscavige is responsible for the VALUE of Scientology in today’s marketplace. Has that value gone UP or has that value gone down in today’s marketplace? Has he INCREASED the value of Scientology under his leadership or decreased it’s value in today’s world? And relative to what? I want to stand in a busy marketplace in any upscale city for a day and offer off a tray, people to have the choice of taking a Dianetics book or a Hot Wing sample and watch which side of the tray goes empty first.
Hallie Jane says
Great job on the website Mike! I enjoy all the funny and interesting people, we’ve got some real characters here with an upbeat attitude and plenty of sass. Your postings are always insightful and the picts you choose are hilarious. Thanks for doing all this, keeping everyone informed, in an uptone, real and truthful way. I really appreciate it. The RCS comments are so canned and stupid. Their so called PR’s, lack of sophistication, is so ignorant and out of touch with anything resembling hip, totally lacking the savior faire of intelligent, worldly and decent people.
Formost says
Irrelevent stats driven by drug charges against DMs sister and departure of Paul Haggis, Katie Holmes and Leah Remini. At least give thanks where they are due.
Yesterday morning when I googled “David Miscavige”, the first page had nothing but Remini news on it.
calvin b. duffield says
Mike it’s only been a few months now since you launched your blog, but YOU have amassed some pretty impressive results thus far! Pitching the Delusional David in all his guises and pseudo COBbledigook PR, is a perfect counter to his insane proclivities. What remains to done perhaps, has already been suggested by several posters. An open invitation for a one on one “Air your view” prime time TV and or radio shows, similar to the one you did as “spokesman” on Dublin TV with Collette. This comm channel is definitely more effective in delivering the Truth Punch as opposed to the Kool-Aid thirst quencher. Any future plans to do another plug like that?
Indie8Million says
Do you have a link to the interview you are talking about, Calvin? I’d like to see that (or make sure I’ve already seen it). Thanks a lot. Indie8
calvin b. duffield says
Indie8, sure . Try Scientology X-Spokesperson Mike Rinder Midweek Interview Video
Indie8Million says
Thanks!
Cat Daddy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjW3H9GzPXM
Dan Koon says
If anyone bothers to crunch the numbers even further it all translates to one page every HALF second. Or one half page every quarter second. Extrapolating further, these numbers translate to one quarter page every 1/8th second. 1/8th page every 1/16th second. The mind boggles but not for the reason the person who compiled those statistics thinks.
Robin says
Ah yes the Church of Scientology’s continuing battle with the internet.
Let us start from its humble beginnings:
http://www.discord.org/~lippard/skeptic/03.3.jl-jj-scientology.html
I’d almost forgotten about Helena Cobra…er is that Kobrin and her famous “Cancel Poodle”.
The one that really put a little known usenet newsgroup by the name of Alt.Religion. Scientology on the cyber map.
Many of us who surfed the net regularly by typing in “Scientology” in whatever search engine of choice we had back then (we had choices beyond NSA approved “google” like yahoo, jeeves, dog pile, etc, etc) were wondering WTF was going on?
This internet flap was followed by the totally incompetent Scientologist On-Line program which included a Net Nanny or Scieno Sitter in their software for anyone who participated in the program.
Unfortunately for them the Scieno Sitter didn’t work on Mac or Linux platforms 🙂
Back then we had iMac G3 ( remember the ads for it accompanied by the Rolling Stones tune ‘She’s Like a Rainbow’?) which was able to ignore key word algorithm.
So despite the fact that we were suckered into the Scientologist Off-Line program our surfing habits weren’t curtailed.
Anyhoo.
To make a short story long….hmmm….or is that the other way around?
I spent many hours on the internet fascinated by OSA’s total (sorry Mike) incompetence in handling the flap and grimacing occasionally at every foot bullet fired.
Thinking to myself “Oooooh that’s gonna leave a mark”.
I could go on but instead I’d like to end off on one of my favorite characters on ARS and that is the ARSCC librarian who’s post have been carefully preserved on the following website:
http://english.freiescientologen.de/archiv/arscc/index.html
Enjoy 🙂
Dan says
Do you have any written quotes that say it is out-ethics to get information about Scientology from the Internet?
Joe Pendleton says
Yes, I do. Will be issued in just a couple of days.
HCO PL 10 August 2013
Out-Ethics and the Internet
It is hereby stated that it is out ethics to view any negative material on the internet that mentions myself, Scientology or David Miscavige. The act of looking at such is now labeled a Suppressive Act and a VHC (Very High Crime).
L. RON HUBBARD*
Founder
* LRH dropped his body in 1986, as we know to do research that a body would only hinder. His is now on OT 72, which gives him the ability to write new PLs and HCO Bs, which he communicates (without need of the physical universe obviously) to COB RTC.
Be on the watch for next week’s special LRH ED entitled “The IAS was my idea and everybody needs to donate all their money to it”, and a sneak preview of the next LRH ED called “Ideal Orgs – also my idea – donate all your money to it.”
Note: It will be revealed at the next IAS event that COB RTC now has special exec council meetings with Ron every Thursday at 3 pm to review the last week and set the agenda for the next one.
LOTS of BRAND NEW LRH issues coming out this next year!!!!!
DollarMorgue says
How come he still needs money at OT LXXII?
Indie8Million says
That’s pretty good, Joe. They Ron wrote it 2 days into the future too!
10 Aug. Nice touch.
War Horse says
I ran two Internet companies over the past 15 years, and continue to run one of them. What always amazes me is how different the writing styles are of the people who write in– even from just the U.S. Some are long, some short, many have horrible misspellings, some are quite non-sequitur, others complete with exclamation points and smiley faces, etc etc.
Every one of these “letters” has identical syntax, identical grammar, identical phraseology. Even if the Church selected out only the most literate letters– and edited even these– there would be major differences in idioms and sentence structure. Especially when they’re supposedly coming from disparate cultures around the globe.
Frankly, this is one of the lousiest jobs at forgery I’ve ever seen. At the very least, Miscavige should’ve had 7 different staff members write one letter each. That would’ve at least given the whole operation an air of authenticity.
Then again, criminals WANT to get caught, don’t they?
plainoldthetan says
Classic Scientology Inc conundrum. If you’re “in” the church, you absolutely cannot encourage your friends, acquaintances and family to look at Scientology Inc’s websites to get more information about Scientology. They’re likely to stumble onto >gasp!< this site. And if they've seen the newsstands or TV, they'll want to get the scoop on Jenna Miscavige-Hill or Lawrence Wright or Leah Remini, which will undoubtedly cause them to stop looking at Scientology stuff on the internet. Or even consider going into an org. So the Master of Massive Media Marketing Miscalculations (Miscavige) is only doing one thing: wasting parishioners' money. Mostly because he doesn't know how Internet works. He thinks it's a way to deluge the public with the same kind of messages that used to be mailed out, except he doesn't have to pay the USPS. Not to mention he won't spent a red cent for REAL surveying to find out what the buttons or messages should be.
What did Miscavige's baby chick say the day it was born? Cheap! Cheap! Cheap! Cheap!
Steve Poore says
POT, “Master of Massive Media Marketing Miscalculations (Miscavige)” that’s perfect! 🙂
Zlice says
You’d have to be incredibly naive to think any of these “reaches” are legit. They sound like they were written by the same person, even!!
I left Scientology 10 years ago because it was just too nuts – couldn’t stand the way staff treated us, couldn’t stand most Scientologists (sorry guys!), and couldn’t get out-tech corrected.
Since discovering the Debbie Cook lawsuit, and then subsequently Mike, Tony and Marty, I have been more interested in Scientology than ever!!!!!!! Maybe the CofS want’s to count that stat??? THANKS GUYS FOR YOUR WEBSITES. Now we understand what was really happening in Scientology. We grieve for the mistreatment of staff members, the financial exploitation, the spiritual abuse, etc.
Paul J says
I’ve made a similar comment before but some things are worth repeating. DM tries endlessly to promote Scientology through mass promotions that he thinks will make big things happen. This has never worked and never will because it excludes the one thing that matters which is a personal comm cycle that gets the individual to demand change in their life. This requires someone who is trained in having excellent TR’s who can communicate without a ridge. This environment starts from the top where Sea org execs would have to use good TR’s that would filter down the lines to the Orgs and Missions. DM’s level of communication is maybe at worst threats and intimidation and maybe at best hype and self glorification. DM is not really a Scientologist because he has never understood the most basic fundamentals that make someone a Scientologist.
DollarMorgue says
I think we can dispense with the illusion that DM holds anything but his own goals dear.
Gus Cox says
True – you can’t mass market your way out of the horrible market position (public opinion) that Scientology has. Scientology’s PR is utterly horrible. Ask ten people on the street about, say, Rolls Royce motorcars, and you’ll likely get an overall positive response. Ask ten people about Scientology and I swear, all ten will be harshly negative.
Few people in Scientology seem to realize this, because they tend to hang out together. Bands, comedy groups, etc. form with all Scientologists, break up; different ones form with different lineups of the same bunch of Scientologists… Scientologists divorce and then marry each other, almost like couples swapping – it’s very insular, or even incestuous. The few non-scn people around them know they are Scientologists so they don’t trash talk Scientology around them. They have no idea what the general public thinks of Scientology.
I know this for fact. I stopped identifying myself as a Scientologist around new people I met starting maybe 5 or 6 years ago, although I still considered myself one. I was curious. I started hearing how people talked about Scientology when they didn’t think any were around. And these weren’t “eeeevil SPs” these were regular artist-type people. I was rather shocked.
Scientology’s PR amongst the general public is profoundly negative. There is no advertising they can do that can possibly change that, because the negative opinion isn’t for lack of having heard of Scientology, it’s from the shit that Scientology does, ranging from the simply abrasive (badgering for money, wanting all your contact info if you ever show up for a PR “front” event like an “Industry Seminar”) to the criminal (credit card abuse, putting people in the “Hole”) to the downright absurd (Squirrelbusters).
No, not even massive advertising will change Scientology’s horrible PR. The only possible thing that could help is if Scientology takes responsibility for its behaviour, admits it, and then *stops the crap.*
I walked into a Self Realization Fellowship temple not long ago. SRF is on Scientology’s list of Suppressive Groups, by the way. I don’t know the first thing about them or what they believe or practice. They may be nutcases for all I know. Nevertheless, I was impressed by their building space, which looked well worn (like it was a very active place) – not opulent, but very well-kept, clean, and tidy; the people, who were polite, open, and had a genuine air about them; the generally “pleasant space” as we Scientologists might say. Nobody tried to push anything on me or get my name address and phone number. Whatever I may find on the internet about SRF, I still got a positive impression of them. They were nice people and their temple was a nice place to be.
I would not have a problem going back there and talking to the folks at the SRF. I would definitely not recommend anyone go to an Ideal Org. But that’s what Scientology needs to regain. They need to mend their behaviour such that a Scientology centre of any stripe is a pleasant place to be, for anyone. That would be a start. That will take a lot more than advertising.
Roger From Switzerland Thought says
This is very funny !
dianetics.org is on rank 1,298,407 worldwilde and has no rank for USA. This means no traffic there !
It’s only scientology.org that has some traffic but the hundreds of other sites like:
cchr.org (534,423)
lronhubbard.org (840,398)
able.org ( 5,878,498 )
freedommag.org (1,862,556)
youthforhumanrights.org (530,196) and the hundreds other sites of individual Orgs and missions have no traffic at all !
Champions of human rights and nobody is interested in their website. Nobody is reading freedommag !
One could go for hours studying the sucess of all their websites, their rankings in Google and Alexa and propably one would find out that their handling of the Internet hinders people to reach for them and get the people that are in out !
UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!
No real PR, No real Marketing ! What the hell are they doing ?
sets guy says
It’s called PR Marketing! 🙂
Roger From Switzerland Thought says
LOL !
That’s really good ! Pr Marketing !
madeupreligion says
Note: the website https://www.compete.com/ shows that the scientology.org website gets 75,000 visitors per month – that’s “unique visitors” meaning those unique individuals who visited the site once each month. That certainly doesn’t total up to 22 Million Visits a year, does it? I didn’t think so. I am new to this entire topic and my goodness it is the stuff of nightmares. I never heard of any of these psychotic characters like David Miscavige, his goons and their reign of terror, but was made aware of them because of news stories I read in the general press about the acress Leah Remini and her concern about Shelly Miscavige. Otherwise, frankly, even though I consider myself somewhat well informed, I never would have dreamt such horrific activity could be going on here in the US (human trafficing, powerful cults, physical abuse, abuse against children, human rights violations, financial fraud, etc.) Folks are free to believe want they want, but common decency and morality should not tolerate these types of vile behaviors. How can these people live with themselves? Thank goodness no one I know has ever been sucked in to this organization.
Silvia says
This is a good acknowledgment of your work Mike. VWD and lets carry on !!!!!
LDW says
Stats I’d like to see:
#of people arriving into orgs from web advertizing
#of people signing up for basic course from this
#of people re-signing onto major service from this
#of people signing for major service vs #of people leaving (graphed like the cash/bills ratio)
Truth in advertizing is forbidden.
Steve Poore says
LDW, your questions were the easiest ones I had to answer all day.
ZERO!
Now, report to Ethics!
Steve Poore says
except for the last stat question: that one looks like a sideways flying V
Nomnom says
Those responses don’t pass the smell test. They just don’t sound right.
Written by the same person?
statpush says
Maybe I’m jaded, but whenever the church rolls out the “success stories”, I find them incredulous. Like, I cannot imagine that any real person would say or write something like that. They seem more like stories that a corporate management bot or bots thinks a public Scnist would either believe or like to hear. Things like:
“WOW!! I just discovered Scientology and want to join staff! Can you tell me where the nearest Ideal Org is?”
“I really want to go Clear…and so does my grandma! Where do I mail the check?”
“I’ve researched all the religions of the world and nothing compares to Scientology. I am particularly impressed with the church leadership.”
This is the type of comm that is invented by people living inside the bubble (which they no longer recognize), looking outside and imagining what “they” must be like.
Goofy, goofy stuff.
DollarMorgue says
I have concluded that ALL statements by the church and in church publications are actually made for the faithful, no matter what it might look like. If you read it from the viewpoint that they are addressing the faithful, the statements make a lot more sense and are much easier to figure out.
Nevermore says
My personal fave is “WOW!! I just discovered Scientology and want to join staff! Can you tell me where the nearest Ideal Org is?” So, you just discovered it, and you can already speak the lingo? Impressive!
Rick Mycroft says
This one is my all time favorite:
http://gdnews.blogspot.com/2005_01_01_gdnews_archive.html
Izzysson says
Note to Miscavige: Most people have bullshit detectors that are in good working order. That explains why the public is staying away (in droves) from both your brick & mortar, as well as your internet locations. I’d thus suggest you add several BULLSHIT DETECTORS to your flim-flam du jour; the SUPER DOOPER POOPER POWER BUILDING, because the single,
most important perceptic needing to be rehabbed by Scientologists is the one needed to discern your bullshit.
PS. Remember, no asbestos, and keep it well-ventilated, 🙂
Cooper Kessel says
Problem is those buildings in Florida need to continuously recirculate the indoor air to keep the refrigeration cooling costs down. Bringing in hot, humid air to ventilate takes too big a bite out of DMs cut and the IAS will not cover it either.
Only solution is to add a special bullshit filter with a fine enough mesh to remove the stench The detector is no longer needed as it’s presence is guaranteed ………HE is there you know!
Gus Cox says
Well, they’re gonna need about 15cfm per person of that humid Florida outside air, with all that nice latent load that Florida Fresh Air brings… might be interesting to do a spot check once they occupy that palace 😉
Dean Blair says
Thank you for communicating the truth. The official Church of Scientology only lies.
allie oops says
I even had the audacity to ask the “wasband” (the ex who left me because I am an S P) to look at the internet with me….That went over like a lead balloon. We are barely talking, but due to the fact that one of his children has contacted him; he agreed to speak with me once or twice. He really has “communication” issues, I think. HA ha
This is another great post, Mike. Thanks, and keep up all of your wonderful blogs, and info.
Cooper Kessel says
I had a similar experience but in my case it must have been with my waswife? 🙂
Peter says
Allie: It would seem you were very fortunate to discover your wasband’s internal mendacity. No matter the pain, you’re far better off.
SKM says
“Over 22 million website visits in the last year alone”
Wow, this is every Scientologist (out of the alleged 11 Millions) only goes 2 times a year to visit Scientology.org.
LOL. This should be reported to ethics.
Cooper Kessel says
Next you will see a stat for the OTC members for number of visits to the Cult website and commendations for any success story two sentences or longer.
tony dephillips says
I love your blog Mike.
I am not sure who would go to the Scientology websites anymore.
The fact that the bots cannot confront looking at info on the internet is very telling. It reminds me of that Netnanny thing where children are protected from things Mommy and Daddy don’t want them to look at.
TrevAnon says
Every once in a while I go there to seek confirmation that someone who has spoken out has indeed been a Scientologist.
COS does an excellent job for Anons like me seeking that. So thank you, David Miscavige. 🙂
tony dephillips says
🙂
Indie8Million says
Hey TrevAnon,
Believe it or not, there was actually a software that we were all supposed to install on our computers that would keep us from looking at certain sites, or would circumvent us from looking at sites with certain words, etc.
Did I ever install it? Nooooo. That’s why I’m here now. ta da.
Kevin A. says
And of course none of this takes into account the intent of the visitors of Scientology.org. Is it truly to learn about it or is it to look at it to see what crazy stuff Miscavige and crew are up to now? With Mike Rinder’s blog and Tony Ortega’s blog I’m sure a small (ok, minuscule) percentage of visitors are COS investigators and higher-ups so they can see what latest leak Mike and Tony have exposed but I’m sure the vast percentage of people logging on are independent Scientologists and non-Scientologists looking to see how much closer the COS is to completely going under or to laugh at their latest public fail.
tunedal says
Congratulations to you Mike Rinder for the rating at Alexa. This is a very, very good blog.
John P. says
I find it amusing that there are 17 people in “Northeast India” clamoring for Scientology. In India, the seven states in the “Northeast” are known for isolation and rural living; the area is connected to the rest of India by a narrow strip of land and is almost completely surrounded by other countries. The economy is very simple compared to the rest of India, because the terrain is rugged and thus industrialization (or even large-scale farming with heavy mechanization) is difficult.
Most importantly, the Northeast region has special privileges and laws because the large number of tribal cultures are subject to extinction, so the government is helping them preserve their traditions and their ways of life. Tourist permits are required and hard to get, even for Indian citizens. And you can’t just move there because people from the cities would buy up cheap land to build vacation homes and would thus extinguish the native cultures.
So the likelihood that 17 people from Northeast India, who don’t pay a lot of attention to the rest of the world, have all heard about Scientology and are clamoring for more information, is approximately zero. I call bullshit on that one. They are morons to come up with an even more obviously fake letter than usual.
Bela says
GREAT info, JohnP. Thank you for that!
And…oops…the location after that great inquiry from “Northeastern India” actually says England.
Peter says
Very nicely put, John. We can always count on you for excellent research.
sets guy says
Well done Mike! 🙂
threefeetback says
Hip, hip, hooray!
Steve Poore says
THE TRUTH BLOWS AWAY THE LIES EVERY SINGLE TIME!
Aeolus says
Assuming they at least start with some real data rather than just pulling these numbers out of thin air, I wonder if those numbers include “whoismikerinder” and a few dozen similar sites?
And the responses? They are so similar in syntax and content, I would bet good money they were all written by the same person. There is no way a collection of inquiries from all over the world, from people of different cultural backgrounds and language skills, would be that consistent.
Jose Chung says
Graph these statistic’s and plot the trends.
Something that Miscavige won’t do because it would reveal the Truth.
Chris Mann says
Are these seven responses everything they got? I was on staff when they put the OCA online. The “reaches” that came from that were pretty bad. Mostly jokers and people who had very little interest. I’m assuming now it’s worse. I cannot imagine they get much real response and interest to their internet marketing. They literally have to find people living in the forest who have never been on the computer before. I actually think the guy from Democratic Republic of the Congo was trying to lure them into an online scam. Next he told them he needed to deposit $1,000,000 in their bank account and just needed the acct number, which I’m sure sounded pretty good. I mean, thats a pretty decent IAS commission.
Roy Macgregor says
Chris these 7 responses all came from the same guy. The Dissem Chief Flag Bureau. The ACTUAL responses they get in are 76.5% hate mail, 12.7% kids taking dares, 9% People trying to get US Immigrant Visas and 2% Nigerian bank fraud. This is considered a HUGELY successful campaign because the 9% trying to US Immigrant Visas are signed up on billion year SO contracts and flown in. If they make it through the EPF they are immediately posted into senior management and ethics officer posts where their lack of prior experience, total ignorance of policy and fearful states of mind make them fabulously suited to the Miscavige Era of Management (abbreviated to Misc-Management). So overall this program is considered a huge success. Also it handles the huge problem that without the hundred of thousands of dollars of paid advertising visitors to the scientology.org website would immediately drop to ZERO, which would be embarrassing at events and what-not. So the current state of affairs is considered a huge win-win for the Misc-Management team that is running it.
Mike Rinder says
You are in rare form today Roy.
Cooper Kessel says
I’ll second that !
sets guy says
hahahaha good one 🙂
Indie8Million says
That was my thought exactly, Roy! As I was reading those responses, I was thinking, “what a bunch of malarkey” These are all made up!
With Dave running them around like chickens with their heads cut off, who has time to actually READ the responses?? After all, His stat is to GET the reaches, not do anything with them!
I was at an org one time and was trying to get them out of limping status so I asked, do you have any OCAs from that new OCA line? “Sure, we have a bunch of them.”
Here was this org, 6 or 8 staff, barely any money and what do they show me? Two long size filing cabinet drawers FILLED with pink OCAs that people had filled out. All thrown in a drawer. No one had called them. Maybe a few but no attention was being given any of those people who reached.
So, a real stat would be, “People who enrolled on a new service FROM all these reaches on the internet.”
We don’t have time for that. We’re too busy “getting the stats up.” head shaking.
Pepper says
Brilliant, Roy – love that one!
Moonshot says
Roy,
Reality is whatever Misc-man says it is. If he proclaims a Success a Failure, then a Failure it is. If he claims a Falure is a Success, then a Success it is.
Being critical of this is barking at the moon, HE&R, mis-emotion, CI, and generally out-ethics in the extreme. When you move past your Bank generated, implant powered, compulsive need to see the universe as it is, and move up to how The Great One proclaims it to be, then you too can be a Totally Free Slave.
Roy Macgregor says
Moonshot – I think you need to change your name to Moonshine. Being critical of Misc-Management and it’s creator- David Minicavige is most definitely NOT barking at the moon. It is a true spiritual calling. It is rite of passage. It is “leaving the cave” (see Plato- allegory of the cave). It is unchaining of the soul. It is a freeing of the mind and spirit to soar above the smelly poop below. If you think that DM can proclaim anything beyond the timing of his poops it means that you are suffering from SMA – Severe Moonshine Addiction. Seek help fellow journeyman.
Moonshot says
Jeez Roy, lighten up a bit dude….did you not detect my sarcasm in that post? do u have no sense of irony. That post 100% jab at DM. Wow, i cant believe you took that seriously.
Roy Macgregor says
I retract! I retract. Apologies to Moonshot.
Jane Doe says
+1
Espiritu says
Yeah Chris,
I can just hear the thoughts of people when they go to that OCA site. “This site wants me to answer a bunch of personal questions and send them over the internet along with my address and phone number? Who are these people? The ‘Church’ of Scientology? Oh, sure I’m going to do that right after I send that African prince my life savings.”
Paul Salerno says
I don’t normally comment here Mike but I have to take this moment to congratulate you and this blog for getting the truth about the cult of Miscavige and beating the entire church and all their money with the simple truth. Kudos my friend 🙂
Mike Rinder says
Thanks Paul….
Roy Macgregor says
It is also interesting that according to Alexa.com, the popularity ranking of the Scientology website has decreased by 20% in the last 3 months. Meantime the popularity ranking of Mike Rinders blog has doubled in the same time period. David Miscavige’s Scientology is a big rich evil corporation abusing their staff and misleading their public. The message seems to be that no amount of money can overcome the PR fallout from acting like an evil pig. Or is the message that David Miscagive is totally incompetent as a PR and could not create a good PR campaign no matter how many millions he has to throw away? Hmmm. I am puzzlling myself with all these weighty questions. Bottom line- DM goes down while MR goes up. I’ll cheer for that!
Mike Rinder says
🙂
Indie8Million says
Straight up and vertical, Mike.
Think this is what Great Leader had in mind?
After all, you’re still talking about Scientology.
I guess I’d better be careful what I say. Little Hitler might get the idea that YOUR stats are his to claim and we’ll soon hear about YOU in an event!
“And Scientologists in the field are taking over the internet by leaps and bounds…”
Bwahahahaha! I wouldn’t put it past him, the little stat pusher.
Congrats Mike and well done to everyone for contributing your own, very entertaining content.
Jane Doe says
Mike, you and your site are awesome and the numbers reflect it. Keep up the excellent work and thank you for all that work!
md2020 says
Brilliant
sets guy says
🙂
Jane Doe says
“We’re going UP while DM’s going down!” Remember that song by Doug E Fresh? “Mike’s going UP while DM’s going down!”