Scientology makes various claims about 47X expansion and 421.7 people per second reach for scientology and scientology has “the most visited religious site” on the internet blah blah
Out of curiosity I looked up the status of traffic on Scientology.org.
Alexa, if you didn’t know, ranks websites by traffic volume.
The most visited site in the world is #1 (Google). Thus, the smaller the number, the better.
Scientology.org is ranked at 126,424 in the world and 38,851 in the US. This is not very good, and as you can see, their trend is not healthy.
Out of curiosity, I looked up my blog.
My blog is ranked 163,833 in the world and 35,424 in the US.
In the world, scientology gets more traffic than my blog (of course nothing on my blog is translated). But in the United States my blog GETS MORE VISITORS THAN SCIENTOLOGY.ORG.
But to find where the REAL traffic interested in scientology goes, take a look at Tony Ortega’s blog:
Ortega is making a mockery out of scientology’s massively expensive and sophisticated site with a BLOG.
Watch, there will be orders issued now to “improve the rankings” and scientology will pay click farms in India and the Philippines to increase their traffic.
This has happened before. Then once the heat is off, they will slip back into the REAL numbers. Even the figures they have today, a significant amount comes from India where there is NO scientology org.
Once again, the lies told by Miscavige and parroted by the sheeple are proven to be just that. How long can they keep lying? Apparently there is no limit. The lies become more blatantly outrageous but the shrinking numbers in the bubble buy the bs because they have no choice. To question or doubt is to invite a trip to the Ethics Office for some conditions and sec checking at best and a declare and loss of family, friends and possibly your job at worst. It’s easier to just keep “going with the flow” no matter how much that flow resembles the toxic waste from a lead paint factory.
This is an earlier post about “scientology expansion” you might find interesting.
ALeahShowviewer says
Since Leah Remini’s show started, many people is looking for information on Scientology. I did it myself. I searched “scientology” in so many ways that surely their traffic has increased. 😀 It is normal to have more internet traffic when there is a show about the subject that won an Emmy. It is funny that Scientology would use these numbers to assess “increase interest” without further research. :))
Spike73 says
They have a very shallow way of analyzing …
ALeahShowviewer says
A convenient one. It is call “denial” – selective information to keep your story “true”.
Arlene Howard says
Mike you continue to be such a wealth of information for us on this side trying to make a difference. Thank you for your tenacity. I really feel we are all supporting each other thanks to you and Leah and Tony. All your hard work is appreciated. Thank you so much.
otviii2late says
CORRECTION:
Canada:
1992-214: Cambridge TOTAL 1–is not correct. It’s ZERO.
Cambridge and Kitchener are twin cities. Kitchener moved a few miles over and became Cambridge. They are one and the same.
JustMe says
UMC.org global – 88,536 US – 17,364 🙂
NN Grad says
Dear Mike, congratulations, how about a name search statistics for known Scios and Non Scios?
It will be interesting looking resulting trends on
Mike Rinder, L Ron Hubbard, Leah Remini, Tony Ortega, Debbie Cook, David and Ron Miscavige and so many others that are creating interest among the public.
It worth a full new article
Keep Going
Kyle says
Considering you get as much traffic as the ‘fastest growing’ global religion, maybe you should consider founding your own.
If a hack like LRH could do it, you should be a shoe in for the next messiah.
Of course you would probably have to give up on any integrity, truthfulness, or desire to do good that you possess, but look at the enormous buildings you could collect!
(I’m also making it a goal to visit once a day, lets push Mike’s stats!)
Valerie says
Fwiw, I thought I’d see what some other websites who say they deal with religion ranked. It doesn’t appear at first glance that any of these pay for clicks like scientology does.
Mormon.org Worldwide: 65,053. US: 10154
Catholic.org Worldwide:19302. US: 6238
LDS.org. Worldwide: 1663. US: 558
Bible.com. Worldwide: 6693. US: 3374
Jw.org Worldwide: 780 US: 22
Scientology is going to have pay a pretty penny of their parishioners tax-free donations to click farmers to even get in the ballpark of these sites.
Mike Rinder says
Wow, JW.org is the one that surprised me!
Valerie says
Me too! I checked it out to be sure it was Jehovas Witnesses. They apparently generate a lot of interest somehow.
whatareyourcrimes says
Another train wreck, no doubt.
After scientology loses its tax exemption, and Miscavige is jailed, I’ll likely shift my focus to other abusive religions like JW.
Tierney Clark says
Also interesting to me that the Mormons beat the Christians 🙂
Dr. Von Perot says
Mormons ARE Christians. The official name of the church is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Tierney L Clark says
Except for purposes of this conversation
PeaceMaker says
I have trouble imaging how JW could be so high when they’re half the size of the Mormons, and have a rather anti-education Luddite attitude to boot, that I would expect would equate to less internet usage, if anything. My guess is that the Jehovah’s Witnesses, being fairly far high up on the control/cult scale like Scientology, may well be paying for clicks, or else something strange is going on – when I checked, Alexa shows that nearly 30% of their website visitors are from Angola.
Todd Cray says
As various statistics suggest–not the least of which are Tony’s and Mike’s web ratings–the ratio of scientology opponents/critics per active scientologist would be alarming to anyone NOT under a hypnotic spell. Which is to say that there is probably a significant percentage of the visitor numbers that comes from critics visiting the cult’s online offerings. Particularly those being casually exposed to it by Leah’s show would sooner or later want to sneak a peek at the, pardon the pun, “source” of all that mayhem.
Cindy Simpson Hedgepath says
Agreed. I was thinking the exact same thing.
whatareyourcrimes says
Mike, you are so right.
Some dutiful scientologist assigned to screening your site will make a report that the scientology website must get their web traffic numbers up. The “church” will most certainly pay a third-world clickfarm to get to work. Then an abnormal jump in their web traffic will most certainly indicate manipulation, and will be discovered by any simple statistical analysis.
They are so DUMB that they will continue to load up the foot bullets and fire away recklessly, giving us all more fuel to ridicule scientology yet again.
By the way, do you think that the dutiful scientologist might be Dave Miscavige himself? I wonder how often he takes a look at your blog. If he does, HI DAVE! Oh, and HI KARIN!
threefeetback says
Every morning/afternoon in his jammies. Lou puts his cup of coffee next to the computer to coax him out of bed. Mike and Tony; best damn way to stay up to date on the bad news and leaks that his schlubs dare not tell him about.
whatareyourcrimes says
Your scenario is more close to the truth than you know. Lou, you have competition now!
Aquamarine says
threefeet, you’re being funny but I’d bet you’re close to nailing the Dwarf’s routine, I;d bet He DOES get his :hard news” from Mike’s blog, and Tony’s of course.
Cindy says
I have been trying to go on Tony O’s site and it either says the site is down, or just never goes to it.
Old Surfer Dude says
Could be the cult messing with Tony’s blog. Or, it’s a simple malfunction.
jenyfurrr says
It’s been up and working all weekend for myself & many others that have commented. Are you maybe inputting tonyortega dotcom vs tonyortega dot org?
Cindy says
I had the address right, but the site was down and now it is up. Thanks.
Dotharp says
How in the world does Scientology survive? Are there really NEW customers buying memberships? How does anyone buy a “product” without doing minimum research before purchasing? It is all out there now…All the information concerning this CULT is readily available. No excuse for the ignorance necessary to volunteer for brain washing.
Old Surfer Dude says
The only people they can get are those who don’t know how to use Google.
Aquamarine says
True! And there are a few of them left – mostly over the age of 55.
Everyone else – tThe Millenials, GenX and GenYers don’t buy ANYTHING or hire ANYONE for the first time without first doing internet research.
Truly – and this is not my wishful thinking – Our Favorite Cult is doomed.
It is already dead – kike a plant that’s been uprooted,
The plant’s roots are dry, the plant isactually dead yet some blooms or green leaves remain because it takes a while for the upper parts of the plant- the leaves and stems and flowers to dry out and shrivel and crumble.
whatareyourcrimes says
They aren’t surviving. In fact scientology is dead, but the corpse is still warm.
The few clueless bacteria milling around on the corpse don’t know it yet.
Aquamarine says
Whoo hoo, wayc! Tracking with you. Great mind…:)
whatareyourcrimes says
We must be on the same COMM cycle or wavelength or whatever the heck LRH blathered on about. Thanks Aqua!!
Aquamarine says
Agreed, wayc. Back at you with that!
Gus Cox says
Scientology’s idea of PR is to blow sunshine up their arses. 47X lol. Again with my briefing course comparison: 30 years ago, roll call for the BC at ASHO took something like 15 minutes because so many people were on course. And that was DAY fercryinoutloud! Today, it takes zero minutes because there’s no BC anymore. It’s not even being delivered.
Some expansion, eh?
Aquamarine says
I’m not knowledgeable about Enron’s demise but didn’t this company keep their employees and investors in the dark until the very last minute? In other words, shining them along so they’d keep working there and investing in the company so that the big honchos could bail out and profit before the bubble burst? Again, I’m not knowledgeable, but if this is the general concept,aren’t Miscavige and his lawyers doing this too, in their own way, with Ideal Morgues and “unprecedented expansion of the Scientology religion” – keeping the pulbic donating and the staff working until it can then SAFELY blow up and Miscavige can vanish with some plausible shore story with all the money safely and legally tied up under his control?
Mike says
They were out in force yesyerday in Ybor passing out pamplets. I felt sorry for the disillusioned little fools.
Old Surfer Dude says
You should have started telling them the OT3 story. I’m sure they would have been grateful.
I Yawnalot says
Or ask ’em if Mike Rinder has done his A-J yet. When that happens I think about reading your pamphlet.
PeaceMaker says
Mike, I’m glad to see you are so upstat! VWD!
You point out that Scientology’s PR claims are inversely proportional to their membership (i.e., the claims get more grandiose, as the membership gets more minuscule). I think we need a name for that – something like the “Baghdad Bob” (“Comical Ali” in the UK) effect?
whatareyourcrimes says
How about “Deception Dave”. Or “Mirage Miscavige”
Stephen Hutcheon says
This is so funny in that it really shows the real condition of Scientology…very satisfying to read indeed. Even my new website gets higher conversion rates then scientology. So in essence there are more people looking and then buying natural face moisturiser (iooi.net.au) then there is people looking at Scientology and then going oh wow I want a piece of that Scientology stuff! ???
tony-b says
I’m assuming that what is being measured here is clicks. So given that Dave spends good tax-free donations on having scientology.org placed at the top of the sites listed when you search this august religion and given that a lot of people spend less than 10 seconds to realise it is drivel this is pretty low. Add to it that I suspect more people get drawn into Mike and Tony’s blogs and actually read them.
Old Surfer Dude says
Farm clicks. Don’t they feel bad about using the farm clicks? Oh, who am I kidding. They lap up the clicks.
I Yawnalot says
Wow Mike, that’s quite an audience you’ve got! You can boast more internet popularity in the US than a multi-billion dollar religion??? Geezers… There just might be something to this being an “ex-Scientologist” after all, it doesn’t have to be all doom & gloom.
Apostates for Life or Cult Busters Inc has nice ring about them, maybe there is a buck or two left in the freedom industry after all. Just thinking out loud… you know, just sayin… selling freedom is very profitable if marketed correctly. Scientology made a fortune by lying about it. They fooled everyone by convincing them they have the tech and are in it for the long haul, yeah right… suckered we were. Miscavige is sitting on an outrageous pile of cash and a real estate portfolio that’s enough to make the eyes water. And, WTF! It just keeps on growing… And, all the while the rest of the world is analysing Hubbard’s organisational dribble trying to piece together understanding of the Cof$’s actions, and in what they claim is their rightful designation as a religion. Miscavige doesn’t give a shit what the world at large thinks, never has, he knows what works for him and Scientology (same thing). He’s an expert at diverting attention and legal camouflage, he’s done it for decades now. His private motto has always been, “catch me if you can.” Behind that smile of his lurks the aspirations and morality of a pit viper.
thegman77 says
Why are you being so hard on pit vipers? They’re either hungry or defending themselves. No actual nastiness intended. And if you leave them alone, they’ll leave you alone. That can hardly be said for scios!
I Yawnalot says
I’m just not fond of snakes. It’s a personal thing. I mean no offence to our slithery companions of earth but I just don’t see eye to eye with them.
Dr. Strabismus of Utrecht says
That first Alexa graph looks like a recumbent LRH from certain angles.
Gravitysucks says
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georgemwhite says
Hubbard developed Scientology without even a hint of the internet. In the 70’s, I remember
how easy it was for him to hide the OT levels in the 70’s. It was not until the brave former SO people raided the org in Europe that all of the OT levels were placed on the internet.
Hubbard’s business model crashed with the internet and today’s post proves it. My kids knew all of the OT levels from off the internet around 2000. Miscavige could have only grown Scientology by retaining the Hubbard anti-Christ bulletin but marketing to a small market segment of Occult followers.
He could have developed an occult religion by following the UFO people. Sorry Dave you now lost your last chance.
threefeetback says
Dave,
Dying Update:
Your real statistical problem is that you only have about 6,000 die-hards who will sign a petition when forced to do so at gunpoint.
Zola says
Ahhh, life in the bubble. Every time I hear Karen Dalton’s song “In my own dream” I think of the cherch of scientology…and how I spent over 2 decades in my own dream…here are the lyrics, you can find Karen’s song on YouTube:
I didn’t know
I could be fooled
It took me a long time
To find out
My mind
Is upside down
I was standing on
Too solid ground
Satisfied
That’s what I thought I’d be
I kept on living in my own dream
In my own dream
Everyday
I grew blinder
Oh I thought I was so strong
I didn’t need nobody’s help
Oh but the strongest river
Can’t flow up hill
Satisfied
That’s what I thought I’d be
I kept on living in my own dream
In my own dream
Lynda Castell-Blanch says
Off subject…Mike, since Leah is on Kevin Can Wait full time, is there going to be no Season 3? Or maybe some specials at least? I’m assuming there is no Season 3….I’m sorry to say that, but I understand. : (
Cat W. says
“I’m assuming there is no Season 3”
Aw. She said she’d never give up.
Lynda Castell-Blanch says
I don’t think she’s giving up, but I think it takes a lot of time to be on a sit-com full time. It would be a lot to try and do two full time series….I’ve never seen an actor do that….doing series are all consuming, seems to me they are 10-12 hour days….she can only do so much. I’m glad she’s doing something more fun. CoS has taken a lot away from her already. Although I SOOOOO want to see a Season 3, I also want Leah to have some fun. Maybe they will do one when KCW does their season break…..I hope Mike can weigh in on it, but maybe there are negotiations happening and he can’t really discuss it. No-one is saying anything anywhere about it.
whatareyourcrimes says
The momentum is growing every day. I think there will be a season 3.
Cecybeans says
What’s far more important in internet marketing terms in not just clicks but unique visitors and conversion rates. I’m sure CoS has a certain amount of traffic, but a lot of it is probably generated by the same people over and over who are told to visit their site. (Just like how they were “encouraged” to keep rebuying recylcled Dianetics books to keep it at a certain sales level on bestseller lists).
You may have also many return visitors who are the same (and I’m sure your stats for unique, or new visitors, is much higher) but I’ll bet your “conversion rate” so to speak is higher too. Returning visitors are nice, but if it is only empty traffic and does not result in positive growth for the organization, it’s all garbage. I seriously doubt that new visitors to CoS are running out to get “personality tests”. And these days, consumers often check out products or services by also googling their customer reviews or seeking out critiques. It’s certainly what stops me from ordering all that crap on late night TV. And your blog, as well as Ortega’s, which inform the public about the truth versus the claims of CoS, provides a wonderful service to the discriminating consumer.
Actually, we should be thankful that CoS isn’t any more sophisticated or into data analytics than they are. It’s the kind of thing that can skew an election.
thegman77 says
It also helps to have a candidate who has no history of major deaths and other criminal activities in their background. 🙂
SILVIA says
Well that says it all Mike, facts are facts.
As far as how long they will keep lying? There have been almost 67 years of lying, but will not go on forever as other “empires” have evidenced their own demises, such as Hitler’s and other criminals.
And continue to stand up and speak about their abuses will accelerate the inevitable collapse.
Thank you again for keep it going.
Python Swoope says
“going with the flow” ….did that… Once! You may remember …”The Iraqi’s will welcome our troops in the streets with flowers & candy”…..dick chenny on the eve of our “second” invasion of Iraq.
The “kool Aide drinkers” drowned out anyone who saw “a problem” with that position! Talk about “in the land of the blind”!
Bob G says
But Mike, the CofS is expanding, it just that it is expanding on the other side of a black hole, so it just ‘looks’ like it is getting smaller, but really, it isn’t.
Old Surfer Dude says
It is expanding! It really is! The stat is number of people leaving.
Old Surfer Dude says
And that stat is expanding like nobody business.
I Yawnalot says
The stat of those who now know what Scientology really is – SCREAMING affluence!
Old Surfer Dude says
Affluence screams? So that’s what that noise is.
Aquamarine says
Look, its like this: the orgs are still big. Why, they’re bigger than ever! Its the people that got smaller.
Norma Desmond and the Dwarf share a soul.
Phil says
Great post Mike! Alexa is the authority for website ranking. Definitely a very poor ranking for the scientology website. These are the facts. For anyone who want to see this in Alexa, here is the link – https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/scientology.org
Valerie says
Where 2.3% of their clicks are from a clock farm in India. That’s actually down. In past years it amounted for about 7-10% of their clicks. But wait til Thursday at 2, who wants to place bets that the stats for click farms in India for scientology will be way up. It’s a dying organization who has to pay people to visit their site OSA. Just sayin…
And ps. Alexa says: Tonyortega.org, mikerindersblog.org, Xenu.net are related to scientology. Too funny,
gailrick says
I love it!
LDW says
I wonder if Dave really cares. He’s got his whales, his buildings, his posh private living quarters. Maybe having a lot of new wogs running around his properties would just be too annoying to bear.
Old Surfer Dude says
That’s the power of Wogs!
Lynn Furderer says
I looked at the earlier post, too. Such lies and obfuscation. I can only feel sorrow for the past, present and future members. And I pray for all of the members who saw the light and escaped.
chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03 says
Do you have a listing of your US viewers to this blog prior to the TV show airing?
Sid says
I would suggest that the Alexa data is falsely high due to people’s curiosity after viewing “Scientology and the Aftermath”. I know that is the only reason I visited their website and ask a few questions. Being a Christian I was compelled to ask them about God and Jesus Christ. I could tell the answers where well scripted and not of biblical origin. I really don’t understand how they can have a tax exempt status and call themselves a religion. They must have purchased their status in some way. Eventually Scientology will come crumbling down as all false religions eventually do. You can’t BS God. Thank you Mike and Leah for your Crusade. May God protect and bless you!
Betty Myers says
That is what I have been wondering also. What do they believe in or worship besides the satanist LRH and the almighty dollar!! Come on IRS and wake up!!!
Frank Ocean says
First time commenter, long time fringe reader, scientologist by association. Mike I hope you know how much good you are doing and I really appreciation the hard work. I can only begin to imagine how taxing it can be. Because of you and others like you I hope I’ll get my family back from the prison of belief they have fully bought into – in every sense of the word.
Old Surfer Dude says
Frank, everyone here hopes you get your family back.
Spike73 says
Frank, hang in there!
I Yawnalot says
Good luck Frank.
Aquamarine says
Frank, thank for being here. . “We Shall Overcome.” Good to have you with us.
Bonnie Johnson says
Talk about going with the flow. Miscavige is painfully aware that Hubbard didn’t just leave a healthy body and split. He died a natural death from progressive strokes, he was so inept at his own game he couldn’t keep himself healthy!
Old Surfer Dude says
And…he was obese. When I brought up his weight at the Honolulu mission, I was bombarded with members screaming, “Hidden standards! Hidden standards!”
Aquamarine says
“Hidden standards”. Well, I guess LRH “didn’t have a consideration” about his weight. He was fine with being fat, I suppose we are to believe. Sure.
Like OTVIII Krusty Alley is fine with being fat.
Well, so much for “Cause over Mest”.
I’ve got news: Will power is will powe,r and a person either has it or does not, ,and an OTVIII plaque on the wall is fine but doesn’t mean a tinkers damn when it comes to will power and self control over one’s eating habits.
davidcransonblog says
I wonder how many visits people make to the Scientology are as a result of Leah Remini & your TV series. (Is it me, or is it not ironic that they have a website, whilst at the same time trying to dissuade scientologists from visiting the web at all?).
I know I have popped in a couple of time after watched some of your episodes. The more episodes I watch the more I am amazed that the IRS is not investigating them, and people are not turning away in droves.
Talking of which, my wife and I have just watched episode 12 of the second season. Outstanding television, and real life family drama. That mother coming to a realisation of the effect on her daughter (and others) and making contact. Putting family first.
I have had nothing to do with scientology at all, but have always found it fascinating to see people’s reactions to it. The various TV exposés and documentaries have been equal parts frightening and satisfying. I’m a Christian, and I worry how Scientology negatively impacts on other religions; and think that it is good to have the knowledge of what is going on, and the evil that is done by this so-called church.
Thank you very much Mike.
Mrs. B says
Seconded – I’m sure the cult has “Aftermath” to thank for some of those clicks! And they aren’t coming from folks eager to hop aboard the Hubbard Express.
Wynski says
Mike, I checked and “bitter, defrocked apostates on the fringes of the internet” is a very popular search term. 😉
Old Surfer Dude says
I’m the President of the association of Bitter, defrocked apostates on the fringes of the internet! Are ranks are growing exponentially. I may need an assistant…
Old Surfer Dude says
Our ranks. I blame it on CRS.
I Yawnalot says
What?
Old Surfer Dude says
Can’t Remember Shit!
Aquamarine says
Dear Mr. President OSD,
Enclosed please find my application for membership in the ABDA (Association of Bitter, Defrocked Apostates).
Full disclosure: I am bitter, andcertainly an apostate, but I am not defrocked. I was never frocked.
.
Given my excessive bitterness and extreme apostasy (references upon request) I am hoping that I would still eligible to join your illustrious organization.
Thank you for your consideration of this matter.
Respectfully,
Aquamarine.
Old Surfer Dude says
I grandfathered you in a couple of weeks ago. You see, you’re a prime catch! All of your posts awesome!
Aquamarine says
You’re very kind, OSD…er, I mean,
THANK YOU, SIR!
(Practicing my cold, chrome steel thing.)
Spike73 says
Aqua and OSD, you two crack me up!
dr mac says
I left scn about 8 years ago, but only really reached out to family and friends about 3 years ago. I was still really under the mind fuck control of scn until then. I was kind of embarrassed to ‘come out’ about my experience of scn, having previously always told everyone I knew that scn had all the answers. To admit I was wrong was a humiliation, quite regardless of my feelings about my experience in scn itself.
I was rather amazed that every single person I contacted – without exception – was hostile to scn. One of them had even lodged an official complaint about scn with the EU Commission about their CCHR facility in Brussels. This person is a senior EU official. I assumed none of them knew anything about scn, until I understood that the fact that several of their friends or family members had joined the cult had prompted their considerable interest. As a result of MY interest, they all watch the Aftermath show, and I daresay read this blog, have read and watched Going Clear, and more.
Old Surfer Dude says
It’s good you got out, dr mac. Plus, you got your old life back!
CO$ Money Doc says
(Good morning, Mike! I posted this over at TO’s a few days ago, in response to the latest published IAS whale donation statuses, as of October of this year; my observations here may prove complementary to yours, as to the ongoing myth of expansion… Thanks!)
“Tony’s post today indicates several markers of further decline in the church, as well as raising some interesting scenarios regarding Bob Duggan. Assuming that this list indeed reflects the complete roll-call of whale largess for 2017, it’s a striking commentary on big donor giving in the Age of Remini. Given that the donation amounts appear to reflect cumulative totals, the contraction in both the total number of high net-worth donors, and significantly, the precipitous drop in amount per donor, (aside from Trish Duggan) is startling. Amounts range from the Cummins’ $9 million, (along with two other families at or near a similar yearly total), plummeting to an average of $1 million or less, a worrisome indicator for DMCo, that all’s not well within the whale bubble.
Furthermore, there’s no mention of the Cardones, Shawkats, Feshbachs, or other past, middle upper-tier stalwarts, who typically occupied the $5-7 million IAS donor level (more on these folks in a bit…). It’s “clear” that “Aftermath”, and previously detrimental Scn mass media exposure, has essentially foreclosed on new member recruitment, thus essentially eradicating any chance for subsequent new, versus legacy, course income, as well as other public-dependent revenue streams.
Significantly, this apparent steep decline in large block donations, could be indicative of a greater, more ominous trend for lil’ Davey: a new reality that necessitates depleting IAS cash reserves to ensure future viability, should this trend continue. Absent any organic growth at the org level, Scn will eventually be living on borrowed time and shrinking IAS capital.
In an ongoing investigation of whale offshore financial shenanigans, that Jeffrey A. and I have undertaken for the Scientology Money Project, (https://tinyurl.com/y7zsvkm9), Bob Duggan’s Panama Papers presence reflects numerous offshore entities, inclusive of shell corps, trusts, and other capital holding vehicles. Aside from tax and regulatory mitigation, high net-worth individuals also often use offshore financial centers, (OFCs), to hide assets from creditors, and significantly, their potential ex-spouses, in what could be expensive divorce settlements. I would venture a guess that Mr. Duggan has availed himself of this capability, significantly reducing his divorce settlement exposure.
However, such actions could in turn be compromised by a significant IAS donation, that to a court, could indicate significant readily available cash reserves, with the potential to unfavorably increase a settlement on behalf of Trish. Tony’s post suggests that Trish and Bob Duggan may have indeed split, and his AWOL status I believe, may reflect his desire to also divorce himself from Scn as well, or substantially decrease his visibility among the whale pod, by relying on his stock-funded Scn donation trust, as his means of keeping in “good standing”, donation-wise.
As our investigation revealed, Shawkat’s and Feshbach’s involvement with their problematic Okyanos stem cell venture, as well as the latter’s outstanding $3.8 million IRS debt, reflect financial concerns above and beyond their individual IAS obligations, and most likely account for their respective absence on this year’s whale hit parade. As for Mr. Cardone, an initial look-see indicates his multi-family dwelling REIT portfolio appears to be humming along.
However, in digging a bit deeper, several of his larger ventures appear to be suffering cash-flow issues, (for instance, the % of his current liquidity relative to projected initial investment yields), as well as a limited geographic purview for expansion. Cardone’s post-hurricane relief social media profile has been curiously dormant of late, suggesting that all may not be tickety-boo in the land of big cigars and faux social consciousness; perhaps the wingman’s wings have been clipped somewhat.
At a macro level, I’m also dubious of any investment vehicle that touts 100% returns, regardless of the real estate boom in his markets While these and other individuals may have made significant, though under the radar IAS donations, there’s no doubt in my mind, that this relatively low-key magazine disclosure, represents yet one more indicator of Scientology’s ongoing terminal decline; one can hope!”
kengullette says
By golly, I want to help take this blog to 47X expansion. Soon, you’ll get to St. Hill size!!!! 🙂
I Yawnalot says
That’s a thought!
Plus I wonder how much OSA helps make Mike’s site so popular? They must click away many times a day on this site to remain in the loop of where Scientology is actually headed. I’m pretty sure any OSA goon long enough in the job doesn’t buy their own church’s PR crap. They get their jollies from simply being the assholes they are.
Old Surfer Dude says
“…simply being the assholes they are.” Asshole runs deep with cult members. They’re probably proud to be assholes.
I Yawnalot says
The mind boggles at trying to come to terms with what sort of person would be a present day OSA operative. The animal kingdom doesn’t have a comparative, all those creatures serve a function. Sheesh… I need a nap.
Old Surfer Dude says
“…all those creatures serve a function.” And Scientology serves no one.
Aquamarine says
Yawn, so funny, I just thought the same thing about OSA. And along with the hard news, maybe we even crack them up 🙂
Hey, OSA – do we amuse you you? Hope so. Your pleasures are few enough, after all.
Aquamarine says
Off topic but I was away this weekend and missed Terra’s Clean Hands article, for which this would apply:
Just hear those ground phones ringing and cell phones jingling too
Come on its lovely weather for a Sec Check together with you
Outside the snow is falling and Flog is calling, “Yoo Hoo”
Come on its lovely weather for a Sec Check together with you.
(This is a work in progress. Feel free to contribute.)
Have to return to what pays the bills now.
Ciao, everyone!