Another in the continuing series of provocative essays from Terra Cognita
Scientology, Where You’re Always Worse Off than Everybody Else
Is it just me, or did other people feel slightly unworthy inside the bubble? On one hand, all Scientologists are taught they’re more able than anyone else. On the other, there were always members who were:
Richer
More successful
More creative
Friendlier—without being “theety-weedy”
Who kept stats and applied the Conditions
Who used a personal Admin Scale
Who went exterior at will
Who always gave the best wins at events
Who didn’t drink wine (last time: 1974)
Who owned their own business and employed all the local staff
Who were members of WISE, The Way to Happiness Foundation, and the PTA
Who’d taken out second mortgages to help make the ideal org a reality
Who routinely worked a Sea Org schedule
Who hadn’t taken a vacation in sixteen years
Who always stood up and applauded enthusiastically at all the events
And afterwards, led the “Hip, hip, hurray’s!”
Whose friends were all Scientologists
Whose family were all part of the church (except for some SP brother who nobody had seen for thirty years)
Who was on staff for five years back in the eighty’s
Who served with LRH on the Apollo
Who was on course on the weekends
Who cleared all their words—even when reading fiction
Who had done The Basics—twice
Who had done all the courses—twice (except Student Hat and the PTS/SP Course, which they had done three times)
Who religiously turned in their student points and marked their graphs
Who’d joined the church ten years after you but were farther up the Bridge
Who always contributed at local fundraising events—often beyond their means
Who’d reached the level of Patron Maximus Meritorious Erectus
Who’d paid for the new Org carpeting
Who visited the local Scientology chiropractor every week
And who actually liked going to Ethics
And then there was me. If “clean hands make a happy life,” mine must have as filthy as an auto mechanic’s at quitting time.
At some point, I’m pretty sure all Scientologists consider they didn’t achieve a particular gain because of their overts and withholds. Others were doing better because they were simply cleaner and not committing continual overts.
All homo saps have O/W’s and none are more acutely aware of their effects than Scientologists. Especially those actively on the Bridge. Deep down, they know they didn’t go Clear, not because the tech didn’t work, but because they were sitting on overts and withholds. They weren’t “clean.” They weren’t worthy. They hadn’t contributed enough.
I suspect Sea Org staff assigned to the RPF believe they deserved the condition due to their own strings of O/W’s. Their stats weren’t high enough, they produced overt products, and worst of all, they had impure thoughts. Not all, but some. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Dirt, Dirt, and More Dirt
Scientology Axiom 52: Everyone Belongs in Ethics.
Corollary: You have more overts and withholds than anyone else.
Corollary: Everyone in the church is surviving better than you.
Corollary: You don’t measure up as a Scientologist.
You continually slide through stop signs without coming to a full stop. You told Sally that Sue had lost her job. You spent money on cigarettes instead of vitamins. You didn’t contribute enough at the last event. You haven’t been using your demo kit on course. You haven’t FSM’ed in twelve years. You thought Tom’s latest movie kinda sucked. You didn’t walk the dog on Tuesday when you got home at eleven-thirty. At night. Even though you attested to Level 0, you feel nervous talking with Ted. The reason you suck and everybody’s doing better than you is because you are continually committing harmful acts. For Scientologists, this is a technical fact.
You’re responsible for your own condition. And since your condition lies across all eight dynamics, you’re not only responsible for your own case, you’re responsible for the wellbeing of your family, your community, your lawn, Rex, your local Org, all of Scientology, Earth, Mars, and the Milky Way. Skip out on taking full responsibility for any of this and…well, you know the rest.
Freedom
It’s liberating to have left the church and with it, that feeling of being at effect, of feeling I wasn’t doing enough, that everyone else was more dedicated and doing better than me. Now? I don’t feel guilty seeing movies on the weekends; taking walks in the evenings; going on vacations; sipping old vine Zins with friends (one of whom has a degree in psychology); spending money on recreational devices at the expense of the next level; and believing David Miscavige is truly an SP.
I’m not a “dog PC” and overts and withholds aren’t holding me back. The tech didn’t “go in” because I had a misunderstood word, but because the underlying theory was built on false premises.
Life is good.
High in the Andes
The Quechua natives of the Andes Mountains would always weave one mismatched thread into their fabrics because they believed only the gods were perfect. To Scientologists, overts and withholds are the threads that remind them of their imperfections. LRH is their god.
Everyone has overts. Everyone has withholds. Everyone is laced with their own mismatched threads. Mother Theresa herself wouldn’t have passed a six month check at Flag without a trip to Ethics and a hundred hours of sec checking by a Class 12 with a thick Romanian accent.
The Quechuans didn’t feel inferior to their peers because of these imperfect strands of wool. They were only added to demonstrate they weren’t flawless. They were human.
Still not Declared,
Terra Cognita
no drinking,smoking so who stocks the stash of Cool smokes & I’ve heard DM drinks or is it just one those do as I say scn things & Dam could use a Vac just reading that list so if Ron came back & wanted his smokes he could or can’t have them,well if U don’t want them send them over not my brand but it’s okay… 🙂
Beautifully written. Quite moving.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
Operation Snow White was the Church of Scientology’s infiltration of the US government in the 1970s. Operatives were placed in the IRS, Department of Justice, Interpol, and elsewhere.
I believe in scn I came across the concept of less than/more than. I realize many people are more intelligent, able, and so on than I, yet I seldom feel less than anyone. The other side is trickier, IMO. It’s really easy to start feeling “superior/more than” when comparing myself to someone who is “dumb, opinionated, snobby etc. etc. etc.” and the list goes on – laughter. It’s a comfortable place to put myself in.
Someone of the Buddhist persuasion said his teacher told him “The state of the mind is more important than its content.” That’s great advice when feeling Less Than. I wonder what advice the teacher offered about getting rid of More Than.
I just recalled a “suggestion” on Mark Rathbun’s “How to trek the Great Middle Path” post, Sept.18, 2015, which seems to apply:
“Recognize the oft-intruding, peculiar notion that you have arrived and let it pass”
Good one. Yes, very applicable.
Hi Miraldi! – I guess Marty got tired of running a website. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. There are still many interesting subjects and conversations to explore on his earlier posts.
I’m sure we’ll communicate from time to time here on Mike’s blog.
Best, Much Metta as George W. would say, and Love,
Richard
Hey, Richard, happy to see you! 🙂
Regarding Marty’s blog, I get that he is moderating comments only once every several days or so. At least I hope so, since I have a reply for you that is “awaiting moderation.” It relates to the various exchanges between all of us – from Trump to climate change to spiritual paths.
Much metta!
marildi
marildi – lol – I’ve been writing that wrong for over a year and you never corrected me!
BTW – For what it’s worth, on a post I made which didn’t show up, I explained that I was taking on a totally pro DJT position mainly to be contrary to Marty’s position – laughter
No worries. By now I’m used to people misspelling my name. 😉
You had me fooled about DJT! But you got me thinking a couple times. Every blog needs a “counterpoint” poster. I’m the resident counterpoint here on Mike’s. 😀
Laughter – My post is also awaiting moderation. I hope it shows up or I’ll go down in history as a DJT groupie. 🙂
Yes – laughter. 🙂
Really, guys, if you indie types are nostalgic for a place to discuss your ideas, why don’t you go ahead and get something going, rather than pining or even whining over it? There are quite a few sites already out that that might be candidates for revitalizing, and Marty’s is just an example of a WordPress site which anybody could do a version of for themselves.
I actually used to be pretty sympathetic to indies based on knowing some of major old players, but they were real go-getters who mailed stuff out consistently, and then ran BBSs and chat sites that they were devoted to keeping vital and alive, or at least participated enthusiastically and loyally in those venues and other activities of the freezone. Now I look at the wreckage of abandoned websites, and the other indicators of a movement that can’t get its act together, and I see evidence of paralyzation and powerlessness, not increased ability, and no sign of any progress that would leave hope for the subject. That leads me to conclude that Scientology is not workable in any form, and is more illusion than results.
But have a go at it, by all means.
The Middle Path post I mentioned was entirely unrelated to a middle path regarding scn. I took it as something Marty came up with, probably from studying eastern philosophies such as the Tao which he has promoted. There were six contemplative suggestions. I found them beneficial and here they are:
Seek balance of intellect and intuition
Harmonize reason and compassion
Make concert of heart and mind
Modulate the need to do or say with the abilities to observe, to share and to let be
Spice the syntheses with rhythm
Recognize the oft-intruding, peculiar notion that you have arrived and let it pass
Very interesting TC !
I felt I was a “downstat” because I didn’t give to IAS (not enough)
Sort of not a natural human being, honest !
One issu I hated was “honesty and case gain”. I then concluded that I was bad.
Also I was not able to audit high hours on solo not’s (which is in fact out tech). But “good scientologist” were able to do so. Hours, hours. I was at war with de Dof P, and even the CS and the cramming officer at Flag.
I am not normal !!!
I used to have to withold that I thought that Miscavige was an SP (since 1983). Normal people liked him, admired him.
I am not normal !
I use oral sex to give pleasure to woman, rarely I succeed while using normal penetration.They mostly don’t feel nothing. I know only clitoridian women.
I am not normal !
And on this blog I am not able to hate Hubbard, I’m not normal like good fellows like Wynsky or Horneday who are “unreasonable” with Elcon. I am really not normal and never will be… too sad!
And maybe Mike Rinder won’t publish my post already did so because I talked about sex !
Puritan american, this you kept from scientology, but not the tech!
I was not standing up and hip hip hurray LRH, to painful for my knees, and I contempted those who did it like being robots.
Never had a scientology girl friend, thought they were too ugly.
Couldnt care less that Hubbard was blood brother with the blackfeet, and that he was a war hero. I hated that he was described a this sort of perfect american hero.
I never could understand why homosexual were 1,1.
Never could stand to read Dianetics Modern Science of Mental Health. Unable to read it without falling asleep, never cleared “my words”
Found DMSMH terribly boring, the style very heavy, burk!
Never really understood the Axioms.
I never thought to put a yellow tee shirt and going to save people from a hurrican!
But… I liked to study the Academy levels and Ned and to audit it.
I still like the tech, even if I think it should be updated, canceled many obsolete issus, there is many application of Dianetics and scientology in the society EMDR for exemple.
I am also not able to reject Hubbard like many people on this blog.
There are good applicable things in the tech. And I don’t consider myself to be a scientologist any longer. But what is left of it is the ability to audit, and to listen basically.
FG: “I never could understand why homosexual were 1,1.”
In the ’50s when LRH wrote that, society was very negative towards homosexuals and they were bascially forced to be covert. In other words, they were pushed down the tone scale to that level. LRH himself, like the rest of society, was indoctrinated into the attitudes of that period of time.
Also, well said on your last paragraph.
The tone level is covert HOSTILITY. if this explanation was true it would be found at “hiding”.
I used to buy that explanation until I thought about it. The tone level is covert HOSTILITY. And it includes all “sexual perversion” not just homosexuality. If it was simply being afraid to be known, the tone level would be HIDING or FEAR.
This is a turd that cannot be gilded.
I meant to say that it included hostility too. Per Science of Survival, an individual can be suppressed down the tone scale until he gets to the tone level of Hate and downward from there to a point where hate “has been suppressed, and the individual no longer dares demonstrate hate as such. He yet possesses sufficient energy to express some feeling on the matter, and so what hatred he feels comes forth covertly.”
Being homosexual was illegal up to 1967 in the UK.
The common treatment for homosexuality in the 1950 was electric shock. Psychiatrists at this time, rightly described by Hubbard, were utter barbarian.
Hubbard was much LESS homophobic than the rest of the society.
When I started scientology in the 1970 there were many gay people in the org. It was absolutely not a problem. None then wanted to “handle” them (unless THEY consider it an aberration and wanted to be healed) Evaluating the aberration of a PC was considered a crime at this time.
After the fascist putsch of Miscavige, homosexual were suppressed in scientology
I co audited several intensives with a gay guy in the late 1970’s. He got in a scrape with ethics once or twice as I recall, but as long as he kept his preference off scn lines it wasn’t a problem. He audited me to Dn Clear on the Dn Drug Rundown.
As an aside, I once dated a woman who had spent time with LRH and she described him as politically very conservative.
Good data – relevant to how the overall culture was back then.
With regard to the way it was in your org, mine was the same. So was the mission I was in: My M-1 Co-audit twin was gay, and no one gave it a thought.
There were always enough heterosexual second dynamic problems coming up. I can imagine ethics officers pulling out their hair trying to deal with same sex 2D problems, especially back then.
Marildi wrote:
I meant to say that it included hostility too. Per Science of Survival, an individual can be suppressed down the tone scale until he gets to the tone level of Hate and downward from there to a point where hate “has been suppressed, and the individual no longer dares demonstrate hate as such. He yet possesses sufficient energy to express some feeling on the matter, and so what hatred he feels comes forth covertly.”
This is only if you make the assumption that gay/lesbian individuals are suppressed into “Hate” so much to the point that they dare not express it, and so it comes forth covertly. As if this were a natural sequence for the gay/lesbian person, and also includes all ‘sexual perversions’ per the Chart of Human Evaluation.
For anyone to determine that a whole group of people is in such a state of “Hate” solely because they are gay clearly is not taking into consideration the unique individual. This is pure speculation, and is not a kindly one either. Actually, it’s rather hateful and the time period, the 1950’s, does not excuse the writing of ‘truths’ and ‘science’ for others to follow. We all know that LRH had followers then as he does today.
Hennessy, you wrote:
“This is only if you make the assumption that gay/lesbian individuals are suppressed into ‘Hate’ so much to the point that they dare not express it, and so it comes forth covertly. As if this were a natural sequence for the gay/lesbian person, and also includes all ‘sexual perversions’ per the Chart of Human Evaluation.”
It isn’t a matter of being suppressed “so much”; it’s that this is the “natural sequence” of anybody who is being suppressed, not just gay/lesbian persons.
That is according to the theory about tone levels. You and others don’t have to agree with the theory, but I think we should know and discuss exactly what it is and not something else. The latter doesn’t shed any light on truth.
You also wrote: “Actually, it’s rather hateful and the time period, the 1950’s, does not excuse the writing of ‘truths’ and ‘science’ for others to follow. We all know that LRH had followers then as he does today.”
I would imagine that the followers back then already had a similar opinion to his, since they came from the same culture. When I got into Scientology in the early ’80s, I did not observe that attitude – at least it wasn’t blatant and expressed openly, which was also a reflection of the changed views of the culture. Even now, unfortunately, prejudice still exists to an extent and the church’s attitude is probably even worse.
The problem with this is that this is presented as SCIENCE. It’s the title of the book. It is stated to be true and was not corrected or modified at any time in the future. ANd there was a LOT of things presented as “researched and proven” that Hubbard himself scrapped or changed subsequently, requiring those seeking to attain Clear and OT to scrap previous versions of how to get there and adopt the latest technique/breakthrough.
But Science of Survival was never changed. Neither was the Tone Scale. The book and the Tone Scale were used by Hubbard repeatedly, with no corrections or refinements. Remember, when it was needed for PR reasons, Hubbard canceled Fair Game and Disconnection (not really) and he could have done the same with his writings about homosexuality… But he didn’t. And it stands today as the “tech” which may not be altered, but must be applied exactly.
Exactly, Mike. SOS and the Chart of Human Evaluation was written 6 decades ago and still remains exactly as it was from day one. Why is that? There is a reason.
If Hubbard had lived another twenty years in good health and state of mind, if he lived interacting with society in a meaningful way, not as a recluse, would he have changed his writings? We don’t know the answer to that. The CoS has kept Hubbard’s so called scientific research on homosexuality intact. This has affected people, whether the ‘scene’ within the church seemed okay for gays or not. I have heard plenty of discriminatory talk when I was in the church by Scientologists. Staff and public alike, and it was exclusively based on Hubbard’s proclamations regarding 1.1’s and what should be done with low toned people in society.
Marilidi, I’m sorry but you are trying to gild a turd.
Therefore in the 50’s homosexuals WERE covertly hostile (1.1 on the Hubbard scale) but current,more open-minded social conditions (no thanks to scientology) have rendered homosexuals collectively improved? That does seem to be what you’re saying. They’re not as bad as they used to be, right?
In general, any group of people – gay or not gay – that come out from under suppression will go up tone. That’s a principle in Science of Survival too,
Yes, I’m acquainted with the scientology principle that your mood improves when the pain stops. Still, it’s a rather flimsy principle upon which to assert that homosexuals are no longer 1.1 on the Hubbard Tone Scale like they were in the 50’s.
Flimsy principle? If a person’s mood doesn’t improve when the pain stops, s/he must be rather emotionally unresponsive.
I certainly agree with you there.
Correct Roger. A completely bogus principle. At the time of writing, in the Western World blacks were heavily suppressed. Why weren’t they put low on the tone scale too?
When one tries to make logical sense out of the rantings of a sociopath you often egg up with egg all over the place. Much like this now THOROUGHLY discredited reason why L. Wrong Hubtard put gays at 1.1 on the Tone Scale.
“Remember, when it was needed for PR reasons, Hubbard canceled Fair Game and Disconnection (not really) and he could have done the same with his writings about homosexuality… But he didn’t. And it stands today as the ‘tech’ which may not be altered, but must be applied exactly.”
I agree that he should have cancelled it. I don’t agree that it “may not be altered, but must be applied exactly.” That may be true for those in the church, but we are not in the church.
It’s ironic to me that when someone who sees value in the tech, but agrees that Hubbard was wrong about some part of it, is then told that he or she HAS TO agree with and apply all of it – as if we were still in the church. That just isn’t logical, and comes across as an attempt to belittle or put an end to all of the tech.
I’m not saying that is your intention, Mike, as you’ve clearly stated otherwise. But with others whose comeback is “But wait – the tech must be applied exactly,” I can’t help but think it is their intention.
And on top of it, regardless of the above, what LRH said in books isn’t relevant to application of the tech. Per LRH. the only tech that is to be applied is what is found in HCOBs – not books, lectures, or anything else. Posters conveniently ignore that fact or are ignorant of it.
Well, I was not implying you or anyone else one way or the other. Just that a “good scientologist” must abide by Keeping Scientology Working. ANd that is what it says.
What I was saying is that only HCOBs, not any other materials, are to be followed in the application of the tech. KSW doesn’t negate that – it essentially says to follow the HCOB’s when applying tech.
So DMSMH is not tech to be followed exactly and without alteration? Nor is the Clearing Course, OT 2 and 3? None of those are “HCOBs”? What about Ethics Vonditions? Self Analysis?
Sorry, Mike. I didn’t say it quite right. Here’s what I had in mind (from HCO PL “Seniority of Orders):
“HCOBs are senior to all other orders in tech.”
But my main point has to do with application – and the application of Book One auditing (or any other tech) to a homosexual is no different than to anybody else.
“Great gains” from OTIII? I’m afraid in these smarter days where we’re hip to how people can work themselves up into the most sublime states of ecstasy through the power of suggestion, saying that somebody had “wins” or “gains” etc carries no weight. It doesn’t mean anything other than they had a meaningful subjective experience.
There are no shortage of meaningful subjective experiences whether they’re from Tony Robbins’ self help seminars or from being ‘born again’ into the love of Jesus. “Meaningful” experiences are really just ordinary experiences for people who are bored and discontent. That goes for “gains” and “wins”. In truth, EVERYTHING is extraordinary and there is no need whatsoever to make a fuss about “gains”, and “wins” (unless maybe you’re one of those unfortunate few whose suffering is all-consuming).
marilidi, I think that perhaps what people are looking for is consistency. What is the clear guideline for which of Hubbard’s writings to accept as the path to sanity and freedom, and which get rejected as totalitarian madness?
So apparently you are suggesting that it is HCOBs, and nothing more. Have you ever quoted Hubbard’s writings other than HCOBs (which could have lead to some of the confusion over what you consider authoritative), or have HCOBs been the golden standard all along?
And do you accept all HCOBs, or do some of those get rejected, too, and if so what is the guideline for making those judgments?
So what about Gorilla Goals?
“This same pattern, but given in an amusement park with a single tunnel, a roller coaster and a Ferris wheel, was used between about 319 trillion years ago to about 256 trillion trillion years ago, a long span.
The symbol of a Gorilla was always present in the place the goal was given. Sometimes a large gorilla, black, was seen elsewhere than the park. A mechanical or a live gorilla was always seen in the park.
This activity was conducted by the Hoipolloi, a group of operators in meat body societies. They were typical carnival people. They let out concessions for these implant “Amusement Parks.” A pink-striped white shirt with sleeve garters was the uniform of the Hoipolloi.
Such a figure often rode on the roller coaster cars. Monkeys were also used on the cars. Elephants sometimes formed part of the equipment.
The Hoipolloi or Gorilla goals were laid in with fantastic motion. Blasts of raw electricity and explosions were both used to lay the items in.”
– L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB 14 July 1963
PM: “What is the clear guideline for which of Hubbard’s writings to accept as the path to sanity and freedom, and which get rejected as totalitarian madness?”
The “path” consists of the application of tech, not necessarily belief in the theory. For example, I’ve read or heard of people who did not believe the OT III narrative was litterally true, but they applied the procedures and had great gains.
Regarding HCOBs, see my last reply to Mike regarding the relationship of HCOBs to other materials.
COMPLETELY FALSE MARILDI.
LRH directed which types of releases are the unalterable Tech of scientology and it is NOT only HCOBs that is covered by KSW. It covers all his books on the subject, all tech videos produced by Gold, all tapes lectures, official auditor training material.
So once again you are either intentionally lying or, you are again showing that your knowledge of the subject is HIGHLY flawed to say the least.
YOU can inform people which of those two it is.
marilidi, thanks for taking a stab at my question.
I don’t see that you’ve provided any sort of consistent guideline, as I asked about. Instead, your answer seems something along the lines of throw it against the wall, and see what sticks.
It sounds to me like you are describing an approach that is highly subjective and variable, not a “technology” in any normal sense of the word, and certainly not a science or a scientific approach (which is fundamental to the basic definition of technology). I get the impression that you have taken Hubbard’s claims of standardness and certainty out of it, but that wouldn’t seem to leave you with much of a coherent system.
PM: “It sounds to me like you are describing an approach that is highly subjective and variable, not a ‘technology’ in any normal sense of the word, and certainly not a science or a scientific approach…”
What self-improvement system do you know of that is not “an approach that is highly subjective and variable”? And what system can you name – whether spiritual or a psychotherapy – that has been validated as science or a scientific approach?
FG, it seems like you have rejected a lot of what Hubbard taught or claimed, though not all. But what if most of the remainder were mostly “workable” things that he took from other sources, without giving proper credit? Taking that into consideration, you might find yourself in a position not so different from many others on this blog. Have you taken the opportunity to experience much of “other practices” to see what works for you, possibly even better, and to judge for yourself just how much Hubbard may have taken from other sources and just how his work compares to others?
EMDR has nothing to do with Hubbard, Dianetics or Scientology – that sounds like the sort of claim coming from those who want to paint Hubbard as the Source of everything in the field of the study of the mind and psyche that happened after 1950. And Sarge Gerbode’s TIR in its current form probably takes much more from the sources that Hubbard himself drew upon to create Dianetics, than from any of what Hubbard did, along with modern developments that have completely bypassed Dianetics and Scientology.
PeaceMaker, yes I agree with you. It’s not clear what Hubbard brought and what he took. But who cares, knowledge passes from people.
When I read HCOBS or listen to lectures, more than often, I really have cogs. It’s an independant phenomena than being endoctrinated by a cult. It really speaks to you. He actually made it a standard end phenomena for auditing. FN cog VGI’s. This has been so much altered by all the covert red tags of the Miscavige era, that it has dissapeared from view.
FG – would be interested in having you “audit” me! I am not native clitoridian woman but interested in becoming one.
Barbet, I’m your man! We dive at dawn……….
Laughter! There’s always a good laugh somewhere on this blog!
Once you join $camology you are guaranteed to fail and only $camology can teach you to fail even more. And in so doing (apart from handing over huge amounts of money) your failure makes you feel worse so you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper into the pyramid scheme of, you guessed it, failure.
Im not a Scientologist so can’t make comments about my own experience. But the more i learn about Scamology. The more im surprised and shocked This can exist!!
Both Spanky Taylor and Jesse Prince say that while imprisoned in the RPG they came to believe it was for their own good
I meant RPF. s/RPG/RPF/
RPG is a lethal weapon. Very lethal…
I remember trying to do org boards and admin scales for our tiny business, it all just seemed way too clumsy and excessive, for something the size of our business why do you need this level of complication when you already know exactly who does what?
Ah yes the annoying people who spent their entire weekend in the course room, the supervisors loved to use them as examples of virtue for the rest of us. I can’t imagine much that would be more boring than listening to hubbard all weekend, I don’t think I ever really ‘got’ scientology, just pretended I did to fit in.
I have a couple of off-topic questions I couldn’t find an answer to online (guess I suck at Googling) and wanted to see if anyone here could provide some insight:
1. Have any celebrity Scientologists ever been sent to the RPF? Mostly while they are current celebrities, as opposed to being sent before they became a celebrity? I would assume not, since that would raise questions in the entertainment media about where they are, but if not, that would appear to be hypocritical since we’re supposedly all just “thetans occupying meat bodies” (in other words, we’re all considered “equal”). Also, with the broad public platform that a celebrity possesses (see Remini, Leah), it probably wouldn’t be good if that kind of information ever got out. Just wanted to ask that before I jump to conclusions.
2. Are there any actual law enforcement persons in Scientology (and if so, any that have been RPF’ed)? I would assume not since Scientologists are very wary of dealing with law enforcement (even though they do apparently allow some “merchants of chaos” in the media, such as Greta Van Susteren, to be included), but I’m curious if they’re kind of like the Italian/Sicilian mafia, in that if you (or immediate family members) have ever been a law enforcement officer, you’re banned from being able to join the organization. If so, considering that their stated goal is to “help the able, be more able”, then one would question why they don’t let all of the many “able” individuals such as those in this particular occupation be a part of the organization.
Thanks for putting up with all of these questions from us less-knowledgeable folks.
PS. Wait that actually sounds like a dumb question about law enforcement, since the RPF is for Sea Org only. I suppose I should ask about Sea Orgers that have a family member in law enforcement (same for celebrities). As for celebrities, are any of them still in the Sea Org? Or are they released from their “contract” after becoming celebrity?
The fact that Tommy Davis, son of a celebrity, was never RPFed, especially after his totally botched LRH war record incident with Lawrence Wright, made me question this.
Mick, I’m paraphrasing, but that aphorism stating “All of us are equal, but some are just a little more equal than others” would be a generalization you could apply to your question regarding the likelihood Sea Org members who are connected by family or otherwise to wealthy/famous celebrity Scientologists being sent to the RPF.
The old “all of us are equal but some of us are more equal than others” theme writ large in Scientology I think. Higher ups, the more well healed and the celebrity connected know a very different church than the average just off the street convert.
Here’s the irony – this is the kind of worldview of Christianity, except without any idea of God’s love and mercy. Scientology is literally merciless – you either win or fail, and if you fail you just need to try harder. Even the most ferocious competitor understands that you need accept that you will not make every shot. You need to be able to recover and go on.
So much seems to depend on giving — how much you give – of your money, your time, your energy. Not ‘what did you learn?’ – but instead how much money you contributed? How much did you suffer? How many years have you gone without new clothes? A vacation? This is not normal – you don’t have to suffer to be part of s religion.
Lost, the Cult’s simple, unvarying answer to each of your questions about one’s “giving” to it, no matter in what forms and how vast the cumulative amounts, is “Never Enough”. Quickly, one learns that one is ALWAYS “out-exchange” with the Cult. This is the unvarying message, and its quite the mind-fucker and guilt-producer.
The day I noticed a piece of litter on the sidewalk, and could not walk it by because I believed it would be an “over”t not to pick it up, and a “withhold”, if I left it, I began to realize I had been had. It wasn’t because I wanted a clean sidewalk, but if I left it, I knew it would burn an hour or two during my next “refresher”. The door to room full of bull shit had been cracked
Exactly! Somehow Scientology made you zone in on yourself 24/7. Not completing comm cycles, being late, wanting a drink, avoiding “entheta,” not going past MUs, not applying what you just learnt and trying real hard to be an example of something you’re not, avoiding old non scio friends, having to find things to write SS’s about – ad nausea. The way Scientology works to insidiously make you your own policeman, then it backs it up with emeter checks and expensive sec checks etc. Some freedom hey? In a word – YUCK!
Yep.
“I suspect Sea Org staff assigned to the RPF believe they deserved the condition due to their own strings of O/W’s. Their stats weren’t high enough, they produced overt products, and worst of all, they had impure thoughts. Not all, but some. Correct me if I’m wrong.”
We have plenty of ex-$ea Orgy staff here who’ve spent time in the RPF to take an informal poll on exactly that point. My bet is that you’re correct in asserting that many, if not most, of the folks who’ve allowed themselves to be mistreated and abused in this way did so, in part, because they felt they deserved it, due to their own O/W’s.
Of course, the other part of the equation there is that, while you’re a member of this pseudo-military cult within a cult, everything is either “my way or the highway,” with lil davey as the absolute commander whose orders can’t even be questioned, let alone disobeyed. So, when you believe that your one chance for spiritual freedom and attaining your Eternity lies in continuing to be a $cilon in good standing, and that maintaining that status means blindly following the tiny tyrants orders, then that’s a huge factor as well.
You end up being highly susceptible to fear conditioning and spiritual extortion, based on the false, implanted beliefs and doctrines that Elron pulled from out his ass. Self-delusions like that create the bars of every true believer $cilon’s very own prison of belief.
I’m SO glad that I recognized Hubbard’s criminality and how utterly the “tek” was before sinking to the point illustrated Terra.
And…I’m SO glad I got out in ’82!
Hear, hear! OSD
There is an abberation called the biggus dickus syndrome, where your friend, colleague or acquaitance, metaphorically, just has to pull it out and prove he or she has the biggest. I believe that below it lies a deep seated inadequacy and self invalidation. People who are truly richer, smarter or luckier never need to prove it to others for their own gratification.
As I see it TC the major overt you committed was believing this crap and “not seeking to be liked or admired”. Of course what passes for good examples in the church now is akin to what would have been good form during the witch hunts of the 16th century, not what I would call Scientology at all.
Exactly. That was my first thought when I saw DM. It is also called the “short man” syndrome. That’s why Tom Cruise likes him, DM is shorter then he is.
And then there is this little ditty from LRH himself: “It doesn’t really hurt anybody to withhold.” Oh, and the other one he told to Bill Franks and David Mayo around 1974 on the Apollo: People don’t blow because of O/Ws. They blow because of ARC breaks.”
Since you included this in your ‘good Scientologist behavioral list’ can someone please explain to me why Doctors of Chiropractic seem to be a profession that is statistically much more likely to be involved with Scientology at a much greater rate than Osteopaths, Medical Doctors, Dentists et al.? I have seen this many times. I just had a D.C. say to me ‘be, do, have’, and I believe that’s a Scientologist axiom as well. Anyone who reads this that is/was a Scientologist I would appreciate any thoughts in this. What is the attraction/connection between a neuromusculoskeletal doctor and Scientology? I have wondered about this for years. Thanks!
WISE targets Chiros, because they do not advocate drugs, they are helping people and they are usually prosperous. That’s my guess.
Wasn’t there a big push (at one point?) to get chiros, dentists and MDs in thru using the admin/management tech in their businesses via a consulting group?
The answer to that is the old addage, “birds of a feather, flock together”.
They’re both quacks. One punches spines, the other punches your face and wallet.
And don’t get me started on applied kinesiology. So really, they both believe in things,
that with scrutiny, cannot be proved.
Don’t forget to add homeopathic “doctors” to this list.
I once asked an OT 7 chiropractor if he ever tested applied kinesiology, as he used it regularly, and he said: ” I don’t need to test it”!
Didn’t surprise me that he said that. You could do a blind test in twenty minutes. But then it would prove it to be a bunch of bullshit. Can’t have that. Too lucrative.
Overrun, not to cavil with you, but I don’t think you can generalize as regards the efficacy of kinesiology. I went to a kinesiologist once, back in the 80s, and she did me a lot of good in just 2 sessions. Now, I’m not sure WHAT she did, but whatever it was, helped what was wrong and she gave me some excellent nutritional advice and stretching tips/advice that I follow to this day. But that’s just my experience. Now, whether or not these people should be called “doctors” is another argument. She had a “Dr” in front of her name – maybe she shouldn’t have, I don’t know. But then, I don’t care, because what she did worked for me. And I’m not, btw, some anti-medical fanatic. I go to medical doctors when the necessity arises.
Applied kinesiology is muscle testing. You hold a bottle of pills (vitamins, homeopathic pills, etc.) and while holding the pills in one hand, the “doctor” tests how strong your other arm is by pulling it down. So the pills that make your arm harder to pull down are the ones that will help you. Very easy to test legitimacy. Find the pills that are good and bad, mark them, then cover the mark, and see if you get the same result twice. Or even 1 out of 10. I got news for you, you never do get the same result twice in a row, or ever. Why? Cause it’s bullshit and it doesn’t work. It’s fraud. And it’s very easy to test. Tip of the berg when it comes to chiropractors.
Overrun, as I recall, she instructed me to make a fist and resist what she was doing etc. but she didn’t give me anything to hold in my fist while doing it. There were other types of resistance, tensing of muscles in arms and legs on both sides that she instructed me to do. That said, I get your point, that kinesiology is not science and that sometimes it works and sometimes not, etc. I’m not knowledgeable about the practice at all. Possibly I was just one of the lucky ones due to having been blessed with very sound health. I’ve been very lucky with my physical health (mental is another story 🙂 I also had a positive experience and benefits from the Purif, and at the same time I’m VERY well aware that many have written of how they were harmed by it. I share my experiences purely as my own. Everyone’s body and mind, and mind/body combination, is different, and no matter how similar they are or how widely they vary our experiences are endlessly and individually valid experiences.
As an ex scn-ist I had a couple of healing sessions with another ex scn-ist who was also a healer. I don’t know if he described himself as practicing any particular therapy. He could detect body flows and blockages. Most people would agree that the human body is a bio-electrical entity.
He had a portable table on which the patient would lie. In one session I was experiencing a remarkable body flow and I said “Wow, Steve, I’m feeling this great flow.” He replied “Yes. It’s light red and flowing from your head though your feet.” which is exactly what I was experiencing.
A friend of mine tried him out and got no benefit, leading me to believe that there must be an empathy or vibrational connection between patient and healer for such things to occur.
Scientific absolutism might dismiss any such possibilities.
I had a great Chiropractor for my bad hip,back,I could see a reg Dr who prob give me muscle relaxers which don’t help the problem least mine so I’d go see my chryo & a week of visits for most part & I was back but when U have pinched nerves a chyro can help wish had one now sciatica stinks.neck,back but ones body needs to be aligned,some of us who’ve done it & it helped we know it can work yet I’m sure some it can’t but I’m a believer in it..
There are quite a number of scion dentists too, like any other practiioner who also happens to be a scientologist they will charge you the highest rate possible with out the slightest twinge of guilt. Why? Because scientology policy tells them this is how they should behave.
DIetDoc: “What is the attraction/connection between a neuromusculoskeletal doctor and Scientology?”
Chiropractic and Scientology both believe in more than just the physical world (MEST). There is also life force (theta).
Chiropracty is a Scientology loop hole. Scientologists can’t take drugs for their bad back, and “touch assists” and “nerve assists” don’t work for them. LRH hated the AMA but as far as I know, never spoke badly of chiropractors.
Furthermore, a sore back is not really being sick, so people with such ailments aren’t really PTS. Which means they don’t have to go to Ethics to handle the condition.
http://boingboing.net/2017/03/04/verfassungsschutz.html
I love this. I was just thinking of how incredibly nice it is not to be introspecting all the damned time!
“You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting.” From a Knight’s Tale https://youtu.be/tdhQWkTl1PQ
Loved the sound track to that movie, too!
One of my all-time faves <3
Thanks for another insightful article. Your examples paint a very clear image of a life lived in fear and unhealthy competition that one can never win at. As a never in, I’m stymied but the amount of control the church has over its members. Yet I know from my professional experience in the field of organizational psychology how powerful the tools of group think, common enemies and shared purpose can be. I know this is not unique to the Church of Scientology and can be found in other “churches” whose primary dogma focuses on control for financial gain. I feel bad every time I think about the church using an imaginary enemy, those people outside the church (like me), as a tool for keeping people in, building distrust and fear in order to control their members. This type of us vs them mentality has the effect of making people stay long after they realize they are being mentally, spiritually and financially abused. Long after they realize something needs to change, the deeply programmed message paralyzes them from making the necessary move. This is one of the reasons I admire all of you who left and work to support others who need to get out. The odds were stacked against you but you got out and thrived. My wish, like many of you, is for people and families still in to someday learn that the people on the outside aren’t here to hurt them. We are the ones rooting for them to someday realize the world is already a better place if you’re outside the church of Scientology. Keep doing what you do. Your courage in speaking out will raise awareness and over time stop people from entering the dark cave of Scientology. My hope is that in our lifetime it continues to strengthen the resolve of those still in the dark cave and with their departure it clears the planet of one more destructive faux “church”.
It can also be found in work places and professions such as nursing. One of the reasons I hate my profession. At least I can leave.
skinnyvinnysmom, the other major tool that Scientology uses that is not commonly found in secular organizations, is salvation – and its flipside, damnation. For committed members, there is the powerful lure of going up the bridge and attaining “OT” powers, combined with conviction about saving the planet from disaster – and about saving oneself from eternal slavery. These seem to be some of the most powerful hooks that often keep long-term members from leaving, fear of risking losing their chance to become god-like and of being condemned to an eternal state of spiritual slavery.
The only comparison I can think of are the situations where individuals feel bound to an organization that they might otherwise leave, usually for financial reasons such as retirement, health care access, and nowadays sometimes the anticipation of having stock options vest and possibly even make them wealthy.
Salvation vs. damnation. Yep!
Scientology has no use for any human being who isn’t unhappy with what they’ve got and who they are. Hubbard has ensured deep personal dissatisfaction by holding up an impossible model and promising you can live up to that model by applying his methodologies. Thus he creates a real dwindling spiral to match the one he invented. As you progressively degenerate from the destructive viewpoints adopted from scientology, you feel increasingly dependent upon it for your salvation. How to break that cycle: GET OUT NOW.
“Impossible model” is right. I never could get that damn ashtray to move.
TC: “I never could get that damn ashtray to move.”
On the drill with the ashtray (TR-8), the only purpose or expectation is “To start student on road to handling objects and people with postulates.” Stress is on “placing an intention in something apart from himself…an intention has nothing to do with words and has nothing to do with the voice, nor is it dependent upon thinking certain words.”
marilidi, that may be what the materials state, but the underlying purpose of this and other exercises is another matter, particularly given that Hubbard once stated his overall intent as “all men are my slaves.” TR-8 is indoctrination into unthinkingly following even irrational orders and in being controlled, and also ultimately in giving orders and controlling others as well. The reality of how that plays out, can be observed in how Hubbard ran Scientology as totalitarian organization requiring complete conformity to his tyranny, and how it runs today even more tightly controlled.
The actual principles about postulates, intentions, and communication, can be taught equally if not more effectively through other means, and without the thought-stopping and control elements – I’ve seen it done both ways. Some of the people I know who learned other approaches, have gone on to real achievements and renown in the world, including having to deal with some of the worst actors on the world scene. Meanwhile, Scientologists’ supposed trained abilities don’t measure up very well outside of the totalitarian environment of Scientology, which is itself failing because of its unworkability.
PM, the proof of the pudding is in the tasting. And there are many graduates of TRs courses who feel they were benefitted – or even greatly benefitted – and that their TRs continue to “measure up very well outside of the totalitarian environment of Scientology.”
marildi, that’s just ridiculous, we’re not talking about food or something aesthetic here, but abilities that can be tested. Or, maybe that says something about how you really view Scientology, as a sort of gratifying experience more like going to a restaurant or a show.
How people “feel” is no “proof” of actual results. Testimonials and self-reported experiences are actually quite unreliable and often entirely wrong, for a number of reasons including human cognitive biases.
My experience is that Dianetics and Scientology training do in some ways improve individuals’ communication skills, but also burden them with some bad habits including the infamous “thousand yard stare” that tends to create alienation rather than affinity with people outside the Scientology bubble (I had trouble with bad reactions to that, that still come to mind a couple of times a year), and a tendency to rely on trying to be commanding rather than effectively persuasive. And I can’t think of any people that I knew who were Scientologists, or any notable scientologists, who are notable for having superior communication skills, while the other communication methodologies I’ve worked with have produced people , and who are noted experts in the field and even authors.*
I now use and even sometimes teach communication methodologies that are widely used in a number of fields and whose effectiveness is proven through proper research, whereas after more than half a century nothing about Scientology is anything more than the baseless claims of a tiny number of enthralled believers. More people believe in voodoo, and will testify as earnestly and as convincingly as you – including with anecdotes as supposed “proof” – that practices including sacrificing chickens and other small animals have benefitted them materially and spiritually, than have ever been practicing Scientologists. Sorry, but Scientology has had its chance, for over half a century it’s had the money and resources to produce some actual research and provide substantive proof of at least basic claims, including longstanding independent groups (the CADA has existed since 1950), and at this point it deserves the comparison to voodoo unless some of its adherents want to finally do some real science.
* That’s another interesting reality-check about the results of Scientology that I’ve never thought of before, besides all the other fields in which there are no examples of Scientologists excelling (even the famous actors, don’t actually win the major industry awards for acting, like Oscars and Emmys), where are all the best-selling authors that a “science” which makes people more able and spiritual, should have produced?
“I now use and even sometimes teach communication methodologies that are widely used in a number of fields and whose effectiveness is proven through proper research…”
What specific methodologies are you referring to, that have been been “proven through proper research”? And please cite your sources as well.
It wasn’t until after I got out that I figured out that the people I felt inferior to were the ines telling the biggest lies.
Ain’t it always the case…
Yes. YES! Lying about their lives, how great their lives were, how happy they were! I had that experience also. And it was so funny to realize that these people who were PR faking like this had lives that sucked 10 times worse than mine 🙂
Terra Cognita’s essays are always insightful about how the mother “church” keeps the lid on its members. Thanks for another one.
Interesting description of some of the mental failuresuccess conflicts coming at someone embedded in the church. I don’t mean to be glib but it reminds me of the mental equivalent of my wobble cushion which I sit on to loosen my back. It feels kinda good some of the time but my spine is constantly working to find the stability which cannot happen because of the nature of the mechanics. Keeping my back on edge for a half hour at a time probably does help to strengthen it but keeping my head on perma-edge does not sound like the way to achieve real happiness in life.
Oh forgot to add a sunday Back to Basics funny.
Terra’s question about who are members of Wise made me smile as I was recycling a flyer from another outfit where the founder fancied himself as a military man, Colonel Sanders. The headline on the flyer is WE DELIVER….. from our kitchen to yours …. [in the smallest type] where available. And the entire text reads “In the last few months our cooks have been re-trained in breading original recipe chicken We’ve gone back to the basics to ensure our world class chicken provide irresistible taste each and every day. We hope you taste the difference.”
Boy I can’t remember where I heard this before.? Sign of desperation-tech I’d have to say. And poses the question why they had to go back to basics. If you can taste the difference they weren’t what was promised. If you can’t, they are admitting it was never very good. And if the Golden Age of Re-crumbing Old Chicken doesn’t work maybe they should fold up shop and give up all that once-ideal real estate they have.
I won’t talk for anyone who has been on lines over the past 20 yrs thereabouts (the evidence is too ghastly anyway) but one thing I know for sure is prior to that per my observation Scientology has nothing, zip, nada, zero to do with someone being successful in life. Being successful takes intention and hard work if it isn’t handed to you on a silver (family) platter or simply having the guts to take the risks and doing what works, or, half you luck – you won it or married into it!
I have, however, seen a lot people almost work themselves to death doing admin scales, stat mngt, conditions etc Scio wise and not get anywhere, if fact they go backwards pretty quickly and a reg is never far away to rip off anything they earn anyway. Scientology introverts, especially if you get too closely associated with staff or SO who never made it anywhere in life anyway, but are now self professed gurus of “the greatest tech of all”. Your wealth, your good name, friends and family and their intentions are a commodity to be coerced out of you by the Cof$ and are coveted by them. The bullshit that oozes out of those people who persistently shove the greatness of the work-ability of Scientology policy down your throat to make you wrong or to get your money or your life is criminal. And all the while they point to a carrot they call the Bridge (the answer for everything) which doesn’t go anywhere except round and round and down and down.
There is nothing wrong with being self determined about Scientology but it sure will get you declared if you are, and if you aren’t and stay with them, they will destroy you! What a group mind fuck – Scientology!
Seems to me the only people enjoying their experience in Scientology are the celebs and associates of celebs. However, it takes a large staff of downtrodden to keep those celebs and celeb buddies content and happy to keep handing over wads of dirty cash. They must constantly feed these celeb dweebs large egos, or pay an enormous price for making any one of them unhappy. I imagine Conner Cruise walking around Flag like he owns the place and honestly doesn’t he kind of own the place thru his wealthy dad. If only the downtrodden could wake up and stop supporting the madness that could never survive without their efforts.
Yes, if they would just stop the insanity. Perhaps one should suggest they read the 1993 paperback New York Times #1 best selling book by author and fitness guru Susan Powter “Stop The Insanity”. And at least if they really can’t get their lives in gear, look like they have it in gear. 🙂
With Scientologists, insanity is woven into their collective DNA.
And that DNA is a few hundred thousand years away from creating Morlocks.
When I was in, I saw a scientologists that manifested some of these characteristics, but not all of them at once. I was always the downstatty type dupe who had no life cuz I was always on course instead of doing things that I really wanted to do. Thursday’s before 2:00 were always special, I’d be one of the few fools who took time off work to complete a course an get some poor staff member’s stats up. I regret that waste of time and energy more than the loss of money. Gawd it’s good to be free of that shit!!!
Yep! You got your old life back! You can do whatever you want to do! Now that’s freedom! Congrats!
My course time was a couple of evenings a week, less if I could get away with it, I really didn’t enjoy it. What is amazing is that I was one our org’s first finishers on the ‘basics’ I think its fair to say that despite their devotion to scientology large numbers of people don’t enjoy studying it, claiming they are poor students, etc, none of them ever stop to think that perhaps the material is just incomprehensible crap.
Great article. I’m thankful I was never a paying Scientology public. In many ways it seems like the public get mindfucked more than staff members do.
Staff get their youth stolen. Public get their money stolen. The worst mindfuck is to go from SO staff to public so you get both stolen.
That’s fucked up. But, everything in Scientology is fucked up. Some SO have been in 40 years. What a waste of life…
It’s certainly true that claiming to be a broke staff member was often the best protection you could have, if you weren’t qualified for SO then even better. Being paying public, you may as well have walked around with a target on your back as far as every reg ever was concerned.
Aaron, I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. In this regard, I believe that scientology is an equal opportunity cult. I was both public and on mission staff for a while. In my experience pretty much everyone I encountered received their own special dose of mind fuck. Everyone from the homeless guy I saw regged for 25 cents (to get some sort of ‘in-flow’ going) to those at the very top levels of the cult. For example, Mary Sue and Shelly. Sometimes things seem to go well for scientologists, but it’s just a matter of time before you get thrown under the bus. Even the biggest whale will fit nicely under a bus once their usefulness has been completely tapped. Scientology could even be categorized as the supreme ‘donkey punch’ cult compared to most.
It sounds like a very lonely existence being in. No one to talk to for fear of being reported. No enjoyment. No life. Like it’s all being sucked out of you. Just guilt. It just seems to wear on you. And I can’t imagine life without a good bottle of wine. Are they not allowed any alcohol or just wine? Glad you are out Terry and leading a happier life.
Technically, you couldn’t drink alcohol 24 hours before being on course or going in session.
“Un-technically, drinking was frowned upon because it was a “crutch.” Real thetans didn’t need booze to feel good. Alcohol was for people who couldn’t face reality.
I was always jeolous of that guy who did 2 hours of blinkless TR 0.
I did it, my wife did it. All you missed was a waste of time and money. It didn’t make any difference, ad far as I could tell.
I stayed in, for the next big thing. It never came.
Oh well, I’m free now.
Cheers.
Not blinking for 2 hours straight may not have made a difference in the actual ability to communicate more effectively, but it can make a difference in eye health (detrimentally). And here I thought that LRH’s pseudo-scientific “theories” were supposed to make someone “more able”, yet they appear to actuall result in unhealthy behaviors (this just being one minor example out of many other major ones)….
https://www.nkcf.org/science-and-art-of-blinking/
Key note in the above article:
“Blinking cleans the ocular surface of debris (cellular, dried tears, and the junk that blows in with the wind) and flushes fresh tears over the ocular surface. This brings nutrients and other substances to the surface structures keeping them healthy. It helps prevent infection and clears and brightens the image received by our retina.”
Brightens the image received by our retina……i.e. being “able” to see things in a more “clear” manner.
Congrats, Tommy P! The world is your oyster. Leaving the cult is true freedom!
Maybe Dan Koon or someone similarly qualified could say whether or not L Ron Hubbard himself ever passed a two hour blinkless TRO. My guess is Hubbard would have screamed bloody murder if he had even 1/10th the insane or unjust actions done to him that he had ordered others to do either verbally or in policy.
This is good! I left in 2012 and I’m still having to deal with that stupid inferior feeling of “not being good enough” or “not worthy” and I wasn’t even in the Sea Org! They are worse than a casino about taking your money because they manipulate with fear and guilt if you don’t put out the $$$$$. UGH!!!!
You’re smart enough, you’re good enough, and dog gone it, people like you!
I am aberrated. Ron was supremely abberrated! Oops, well that can’t be an o/w if it’s not withheld, right?
Yep, you’re good! All we need is $25,000 from you.
Bravo!!