This fundraising pitch highlights a truth about scientology they try so hard to avoid.
Far from “taking over the planet” and “Clearing Earth”, they are in fact going backwards.
A whole promotional piece to highlight the wonders and importance of South Korea.
There has NEVER been a single mission, let along scientology church in this nation. Just as there has not been in China. 1.5 billion people and not a single mission. Another billion in India and not a single org (half the missions that previously opened there have closed). In fact, in all of Asia and the Indian subcontinent there is a single org in Tokyo and another one in Taiwan. And Africa, apart from South Africa is also without any orgs (Zimbabwe’s buildings can no longer be called orgs).
Never been anything in the Middle East other than a single org in Tel Aviv.
This entire swath of earth — more than half the planet — has literally no scientology organization.
Yet, once again, there will be great rah-rah about the “monumental news” from the “Maiden Voyage” and how the CSN has “moved us into a new era” and “we are making massive inroads on earth.”
Even in the United States there is literally NO impact on society. The orgs that exist are empty and failing, including the “ideal” orgs. They keep hyping themselves and giving more money with the hope it will save things, but it is truly a futile endeavor. Like hamsters running in a wheel, they are frantic about doing more faster, while getting nowhere except closer to their inevitable death.
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
Yeah, what’s the big deal about South Korea? Is it the first new country they’ve invaded since DM took over? Are there just so many whales there or something? Ive never seem them claim any real stats for the country, no WDAH or # of auditors made, or even gross income from SK. Does DM fantasize about parlaying his fingernail-hold into an invasion of NK? or some such? . I think it’s the only NEW thing DM can point to that he actually accomplished. ACAICT, there was no scn presence on the Korean peninsula before DM.
In his magical mind, I suspect he expects to expand SK into a monster set of whales in Eastern Asia who can be browbeaten into padding his bank account(s), allowing him to diversify his currency holdings for when the “stuff” hits the fan and he has to do a fade-out.
Tick-tock Davey Boy. get your ducks AND escape routes in a row. Tatoo those bank account numbers and passwords on the inside of your eyelids.
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
Minor quibble: ‘including their Ideal Orgs should read ESPECIALLY….
Those monstrosities are too big for any org to have supported; Other than FLOG, of course, which was essentially the first ideal org: plopped down in the middle of nowhere, scientologically speaking, taking over an abandoned/underutilized white elephant staffed by 1000 or so crewmembers shipped in from far and wide, never accepted into the local community, never bringing ONE brand-new person into the fold. It survives to this day solely because it can offer “products” unavailable elsewhere and it’s the ultimate stop on the Bridge. Freewinds subsists on the crumbs left over from Flog.
Alex de Valera says
Scientology had expansion in the sixties and the seventies. It was another era. There was the Hippy movement, the Vietnam war, thousands of inventive rock groups. people were eager of new ideas and turning away from tradition. The idea that with Dianetics you could make the individual more rational and therefore take madness away from society had some appeal. My then wife and I bought the whole of academy courses up to class IV and some auditing, and we didn’t had to sell all our children in the slave market of lower Slovobia. Then something happened in the 80’s and the atmosphere wasn’t as friendly, it got more authoritarian, more serious, there was less spirit of play. It came to a point where people stopped disseminating because they would protect their friends from being pushed around. Then the Internet came and one could get an alternative vision of the situation, not given by lazy journalists but by sincere staff members who had devoted their lives to help mankind in the pursuit of forfeited dreams. There is still action in the cult of greed: the frantic swarming of worms over the corpse.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
Hmm, a change from playfulness and happiness to authoritarian seriousness…
Could that change in the 80’s have a name? Perhaps with the initials DM? Or COB?
That little criminal thug sure wrecked things for all scientologists, didn’t he? Everything he touches turns to shit.
Skyler says
One of the most important differences between the 60s and 70s and today is …
Back then, when people heard that this organization was out to help the entire population of this planet by bringing them mental health and eliminating all form of evil emotions and actions, they would think, “Wow! Wouldn’t that be great?”
And you know what? It would be great. But, as it turned out, the entire sales pitch was nothing but a cruel cover-up for a criminal cash grab. By the turn of the century, most every other person knows that. So, anyone who approaches a friend today and asks them about Scaminology, gets the true lowdown. After that, they can’t stay far enough away from this criminal cult.
I think that is one major reason why this thing is now on its last legs and has nowhere else to go … except maybe to the peneteniary that has been waiting for Miss Cabbage for all these many years.
I pray to God that it won’t take much longer for the “tipping point” to be reached and the overall consensus will change so that it won’t be long before the DM is arrested and imprisoned and the entire organization crumbles into a heap of rubble as it so richly deserves.
Chris Mann says
14th April 2002
XXXXXX and XXXX XXXXXX
XXXX XXXXXXXX
CSW
Situation: I would like to borrow $18,000.00 so that I can complete my Founding Patron Status in the IAS now.
Data: I have donated almost $22,000 to the IAS and with the current demands on the fourth dynamic I have realized that I need to finish this status now. You two have been very supportive of me and you more than anyone around know the importance of supporting the IAS. I just talked to Bruce Wiseman and now more than ever I want to take an effective step in handling the world’s scene and the 9 million kids on psych drugs in this country and finishing my Patron is the way it’s going to get done. You probably know about actions that are being done in Washington DC along this line and that we just had a breakthrough against the FDA and that it is a very hot scene. I do not have the immediate means to pay this but through the current and lined up success of my business I could do this over time. I want to create this effect now and need your help in doing this. I am prepared to pay you back for the loan of $18,000 plus interest over 12 months and then to top it off a $1,000.00 for the trouble which I can add to the third months payment.
Solution: I borrow $18,000 from you on cards and repay you with interest and bonus of $1000.00 as stated above within 12 months and we handle an urgent grant which is being funded by the IAS.
Love,
XXXX XXXXXXXXX
Approved: _____________________
Disapproved: _______________________
Rip Van Winkle says
is this something you wrote, or someone else wrote?
Either way, it’s pretty awful.
I worked hard at a business and made enough money to buy my OT Levels after I stopped being staff. Soon after, I had about a dozen requests of this sort – loans for their own various bridge aspirations, and even a couple asking to pay or donate to someone trying to pay off debts to go into the SO.
I said heck no. I didn’t have tons extra anyway, and why would I do anything so chancey?
In hindsight, it’s a double blessing. I didn’t lose my cash on bad ideas, and didn’t help anyone ruin their own life in this one way. (as opposed to decades of staff work to get people in and on)
ctempster says
My new maxim is: Never ever loan money to a Scn. I lost money I loaned to Scns cuz they never paid it back. But I saw it over and over again that other Scns wouldn’t pay back the money they borrowed for either their Bridge progress or for the IAS donation or whatever. So a CSW like that means nothing. It wouldn’t get paid back. I’m curious though, Chris: Did they loan yu the $18,000 that you asked for?
Oh and if you get declared which is happening to many, then they never pay you because that would mean they are connected to an SP. They heave a sigh of relief when you get declared because that means they don’t have to pay you back.
Joe Pendleton says
Though the chances of a successful org in Korea are still probably better than the chance I give the alleged org in Ventura .
*wouldn’t they have a better chance with an org in NORTH Korea? Now that Scientologists have their darling in white house, can’t he just phone his buddy Kim up and call in a favor?
Aquamarine says
🙂 Joe.
Gus Cox says
Oh, lord, another library scam! Give ’em $3K for a full set of basics, to be delivered to some library somewhere in Korea, only for it to be pulped with the other recycling. What a scam.
Mary Kahn says
More bullshit to attempt to get money for nothing. I remember during the height of the Basics Campaign the big ruse was to fill all libraries with some Basics. Flag and other Orgs raised millions to do so and maybe, maybe not they ended up in libraries. If they did, the libraries got rid of them. I would like to know who can find a set of Basics in their local or any library. More Bullshit to earn someone a commission and the church some more false stats to put into their CGI’s at events.
TrevAnon says
Also chicks for free?
In that case: where do I sign up…? 😉
Randomness says
Mary, I remember watching an interview on youtube with Chris Shelton and Robyn Capella where she says that she worked on the library project and they would send the books out to the libraries and they would one for one be returned….they had boxes and boxes of returned books. Just FYI.
Gib says
I’m reminded again by you Mike of this post by you of Hubbard’s 4 conditions of exchange.
Interestingly, here’s a website explaining it (LOL):
http://naturallawsblog.com/archives/tag/four-conditions-of-exchange
Of course anybody that has been involved for a long time comes to realize that dianetics and scientology fall under exchange number 1, that is rip off,
for there are no clears or OT’s.
DM ought to provide proof of his Clear and OT abilities. It seems the dude is not willing to talk to anybody about anything,
what a pussy!
Aquamarine says
Gib,
It has to be difficult and downright embarrassing for an OT to talk to others about abilities he or she does not have, but which others assume he or she has simply by virtue of having completed an OT level.
This is why OTs “don’t do parlor tricks”.
Not because it would upset the rest of us, particularly.
But because they can’t.
Yet, they’re in a bind – a perpetual “maybe” about these abilities because they know they’re SUPPOSED to have them, but they can’t ADMIT to all and sundry that they don’t, because that would ruin it for the others further down on the Bridge who are all EXCITED and proud about their OT Level goals…
This erects a communication barrier between the OT and the non-OTs and it acts as something the OT “is being careful of”, i.e, not admitting, and being FORBIDDEN to admit, that they don’t have the OT abilities that others believe they must have..
This is a very unhealthy state of mind in which to operate in life. In this way, in this very important, fundamental way, they are “out of communication” with – everyone, actually.
It IS the answer to why so many of them get sick, particularly from cancer. Has to be. Even aside from the smoking. Living a lie about something so basic, so important. Has to be incredibly stressful.
Super Mom says
I have noticed the few public and staff in the Org we have been involved seem pretty disillusioned about the lies told at the events …. announcing expansion and all of the other propaganda to get people to give them all of our money
The gig is up I think.
Our Org has been dead and getting deader!
BKmole says
An org in what general area? East coast, west coast, Midwest?
Aquamarine says
All the orgs are small now, I’d bet. What you shared, Super Mom, about your org and the people getting fed up with the expansion lies, very likely applies to all of the orgs at this point.
Rip Van Winkle says
I was staff a looooong time… and I would say that I have a morbid interest in the state of orgs and what it’s like to be staff these days.
It just has to be Hell. Especially for the old timers, I know staff who have been there for 40 years.
I’m sooo glad for being free.
I’ll go plant some flowers today and putter about, eating fresh strawberries.
Aquamarine says
Not morbid at all, Rip. I’m curious as hell about what the staff are going thru now, which I think is hell, btw. And yes, especially the old timers. I also know of staff who’ve been there 4 decades. They’ll never leave. Nor will they ever admit to non staff how deplorable the stats are. They’ll go down with the ship, and they’ll have a neat, nicely wrapped Shore Story fed to them about why it all didn’t work out which will have very little to do with the truth! But, never mind, they’ll believe it. Big Pharma, the psychs, we were expanding too much, too fast, they had to obliterate us because SuMP meant that Planetary Clearing was actually going to happen for real this time and they had to do us in with lies and Black PR,…you get the idea. The cult will implode but they’ll cling to their fictions, their delusions, because that’s all they will have left. In fact, their fictions and delusions are all they have NOW but they don’t know that quite yet.
Rip Van Winkle says
yep….that…and of course, the usual blame. The staff are to blame. They just weren’t on purpose, had other fish to fry, were reasonable, and so on.
I call my interest morbid because I think that there is an ugly side to it. It’s somewhat like, I want to know just how bad it is in gory detail, and then I’ll be even gladder that I’m not there. I admit this, but it seems like a character flaw.
I do feel bad for them, I was one of ’em to the hilt. Never in a million years dreamed I’d ever think otherwise. I feel bad for them and I treat them kindly, so I’m not a total asshole. But perhaps…. assholey at times. 🙂
……
I NEVER bought into the field of dreams ideal org strat, and was of course careful about not commenting on it, except for a couple carefully placed comments – but my absence from all things Ideal Org game spoke for me.
I can’t wait to hear the stories from Cl V staff who wake up and leave – I want to hear what was really going on in their minds throughout the “engram” of getting to ideal. (I’ve heard a fair bit about the trauma of CC going Old Saint Hill – total war zone and guillotines around every corner)
Mary Kahn says
The walls are closing in. It’s about time. No, it’s way past time.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
The world loathes and abhors all things scientology, including their false front groups. There are other paths to truth Super Mom. Scientology is founded on lies by a sociopath, so maybe it is time to just face the facts. Good luck to you.
PeaceMaker says
This looks to me very much like what they did in the promo for the Orlando “ideal” facility campaign – talk about the potential promise of the area, including lots of statistics about how large and vibrant it is, never mind that in recent decades they have been chronically unable to tap into any of that promise and potential with their dated and unworkable beliefs, and likely never will. I wonder if this is a sign of a new tactic, lots of sort of “postulates” focusing not on orgs themselves – whose situation and “stats” are embarrassingly abysmal – but on a thriving surrounding area, and perhaps particularly ones in faraway and distant lands where it’s even hard to check facts.
Speaking of India, I recently found some photos of events at the New Delhi mission, including at a “graduation” where they’d apparently tried to get together everyone who had done courses even a couple of years ago – that one showed about 30 people, and another photo about 35. That probably indicatess more or less their total “field” of active members – which by today’s standards, would be almost enough for an “org.”
And speaking of happenings in faraway places perhaps being harder to fact check, it appears that they may have ginned up a non-existent medal and bogus Columbian police flags for an award ceremony supposedly honoring Miscavige, that I believe took place someplace else like Barbados (link to post on Tony Ortega’s blog): http://disq.us/p/1tmsfth
Mary Kahn says
You mean The Transparency Medal?
Now there’s a medal dave deserves because he is so transparent.
Jimmy Duke says
Ya know … the more I read about this Miscavige character — apparently the head of this turd pile masquerading as a religion — the more repulsed I become. I especially liked a comment I read here somewhere today that describes him as a “Scientology Animatronic Robot”. What a perfect description. That’s what he looks like.
On another note, I will tell you had I ever been working in his office and he had been stupid enough to have laid a hand on me (like I’ve read he has apparently done to some people) I would have twisted his little midget head off like it was a barnyard chicken’s on the way to a frying pan for dinner — along with anyone else stupid enough to try and lay a hand in me in the process. I’m from Texas and I can by God assure you that nobody pulls that kind of assaultive crap on me. Little POS…
WhatAreYourCrimes says
Right on Jimmy Duke! Miscavige is a thug and he deserves the the scorn and ridicule the world is heaping on his little head. A coward and a bully, and he can’t hide anymore. I am SO looking forward to the day he is arrested and forced to do a handcuffed perp walk. I wonder how brave he would be facing prison time.
Peabody says
David Miscarriage is at it again – demanding more money from all of Scientology to fund his latest library campaign to fill libraries with LRH books which will be discarded for lack of interest at great expense to all Scientologists. The books have already been printed and are housed in a giant warehouse so this effort will convince the SO staff who produced them that planetary clearing is just around the corner following the up and coming book boom.
Kronomex says
Definitely not “Monumental” more like “Moan and Mental.” Dipstickus Moptop is becoming increasingly desperate to try and prop up the “fastest shrinking religion on the planet.”
SILVIA says
Every time I read the facts about the failure of Orgs, Missions and the lack of both in Asia I feel nothing but relief!
That means less people will be hurt, robbed and harmed by the usual criminal policies of Miscabage.
chuckbeattyx75to03 says
All Scientology would have to do is build the Hubbard “Beep Emeter” and have some actually successful consistent demonstrations by some “OT” Scientologists making their Hubbard Beep Meter beep.
Have their best OT make the Hubbard Beep Meter beep, and they’d get some attention.
Alcoboy says
THE PLANETARY DISSEMINATION PROGRAM!
YOUR AVENUE TO FREE SCIENTOLOGY MATERIALS!
Huh?
Here’s how it works:
Go down to your local library and ask if they got a truckload of books from the Church of Scientology. If they say yes, ask when they’re going to put these materials out. If they tell you that they’re going to throw it all in the dumpster, you can do one of two things for them:
1) Offer to take the materials off their hands, then take the stuff home.
2) Offer to help carry the stuff to the dumpster.
Indies like me will probably choose option 1
Wynski will enthusiastically choose option 2
THE PLANETARY DISSEMINATION PROGRAM!
HELPING PUBLIC LIBRARIES EVERYWHERE!
Wynski says
Just think, that little country became the 11th largest economy in the entire world WITHOUT scamology. Why ruin a good thing by “infusing” Hubtard’s lies and evilness into that society?
I Yawnalot says
Scientology has no Seoul.
Just a stinkin flier, that’s the best they’ll ever do.
Paul D says
I am a never in living in Denver, and I have to disagree with you when you say that Scientology has no impact on society I the States. If the org here had been converted into a real church, I’d never be able to park there for Sunday afternoon Rockies baseball games. The impact for me personally is huge! It’s like this super power I have to be able to find a parking spot.
Doug Sprinkle says
Too funny
Old Surfer Dude says
Infuse South Korea with Sauce? Don’t they have enough? I mean….what? It’s actually source? Source or sauce. Either way they’re still fucked.
bixntram says
I’m disappointed to read that the worthless trash spewed out by the scientology presses has weaseled its way into the libraries there. However, evangelical Christianity is strong there, and I believe the biggest mega church in the world is in Seoul. Scientology is not going to be welcome among these folk, and that’s putting it mildly.
Old Surfer Dude says
+1! Outstanding post!
Regular Envelope says
They’ expanding so you can climb the Bridge to a Total Fleecing — to become “clear” ?and move through the Operating Thetan levels?. OT III is where the BS ? goes into high gear. We got space aliens attached to our souls! Help! Get them off of me! Ick! The org says the following about the so called upper level confidential “scriptures” ??
?Confidential Scripture?
“An extremely small portion (less than one percent) of the Scripture of Scientology is unpublished. These religious materials comprise the most advanced levels of Scientology spiritual counseling. One must be fully prepared spiritually and ethically to receive and truly comprehend these materials.” See https://www.standleague.org/facts-vs-fiction/whitepapers/scientology-confidential-scripture.html
Yet, all of these materials are in fact readily accessible to be read by ANYONE with access to the Internet simply by Googling for them. Sites such as WikiLeaks have vast cyber libraries packed with these type documents. Including all of the OT materials? . “Fully prepared spiritually and ethically to truly comprehend these materials.” MY ASS. Here, let me help you get started ?
See https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology%27s_%27Operating_Thetan%27_documents_leaked_online
rosemarietropf says
Wow. See the sleight of hand there? Give all the countries stats to cover up the fact they are putting english speaking books into one library. More false stats. If they would just be honest and quit the hype they would actually do better.
David Bates says
I expect that it will grow there just like in the Philippines. My wife comes from there and we spend months there every year. 84 million people and 1 mission that is open only by advance notice. My wife had a family member conned in and after taking all his money he is in jail due to drugs. Again though, English is taught in every school from 1st grade. All they can get is 1 mission and last checking was selling all books and pamphlets. They don’t even give away free booklets. You have to buy them. It will fail soon just like South Korea will fail.
Peggy L says
I keep hoping that the petals will soon fall of the rose due to cult members (enablers, snookered big donors) letting themselves recognize what a liar and huckster DM is. Maybe it will have to happen from the inside out as Sea Org members get out and speak out with first hand knowledge about the lies and scams.
jim says
Mike, IMO Scientology is a cult with soooo few followers that it would not get any attention on the world stage: If it were not soooo damn abusive.
Note to Gavin Kelly,
Hey Dude, When you (personally) set up camp in Seoul and have thousands beating down your doors please recognize a critical fact: They are about to string you up and burn all of you heretical books. You need to safepoint the Kkangpae before you venture over there.
Rick says
they would Have More luck in North Korea…
Dr. Strabismus of Utrecht says
Zimbabwe’s buildings can no longer be called orgs. They can, however, be called brothels.
Ammo Alamo says
Brothels? O-r-r-r-g-g!
I mean A-r-r-r-gh!
Either way, you pay to get f****d!
Old Surfer Dude says
And not in a good way.
Old Surfer Dude says
Hey! A working woman does, as a working woman does.