This is “sea org” command.
Here, “Command” means assuming an unearned position of authority (bestowed strictly by signing a billion year contract) where you order people around as if they are all your personal slaves. “I am counting on you” and “I am expecting” etc etc. The email below from the “CO FSSO” is a perfect example of the entitlement such people feel.
Of course, no one would want to miss these events.
This is magnified when the Sea Org “command” is in the hands of an MAA/Ethics Officer. Often no more than children, they are suddenly handed control over others’ lives. They can dictate to them far more than that they must show up to events. They can control who they are allowed to speak to. Who they may work with. What they are to do with every aspect of their lives.
It tends to breed a form of ignorant arrogance and cruelty that is hard to describe for anyone fortunate enough not to have experienced it personally. Think Joffrey from Game of Thrones.
This is the world of scientology.
How weird is this church that has a military wing… with troops dressed in naval regalia, strutting around giving commands to their parishioners and staff alike. I have personally witnessed sea org members screaming unashamedly at staff and public to get things done or to change their reality.
To say nothing of its leader, who titles himself the “Chairman of the Board”, and dresses up like an admiral of some tin-pot navy. As for “command intention” – how do the public react when they first come across this “church” that promises spiritual freedom, but acts and looks like a private army?
How would the world react if the Catholic church or Seventh-Day Adventists implemented a military/naval wing and dressed its soldiers up like Scientology does its sea org members? They would become the laughing stock of the planet.
How can spiritual progress be had from such people as the sea org? For how much longer will Scientologists delude themselves that they can make spiritual progress at the hands of bullies and plain psychopaths?
I love how they say “bring someone with you” .
NO ONE ever did when I was in
( I was covertly embarrassed to BE A Scientologist due to many HE&R reactions from WOGS WHO KNEW)
and that was long before the Debbie Cook E-mail
and LONG, LONG before
Hurricane Leah & “Typhoon Rinder”
delivered their very effective blows to Scientology and David Miscavige
For anyone out there with an MU on “Typhoon” – let me help you clear it…
A tropical cyclone is a rapidly rotating storm system (TRUTH GETTING REVEALED) created by a powerful SP’s who KNOW and are not afraid to speak out and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! (MIke Rinder and Leah Remini)
…characterized by a low-pressure center…in other words – a cool, calm, handsome and distinguished Gentleman….
a closed low-level atmospheric circulation, ( his environment is nice and stable and he is CERTAIN about what he KNOWS and is Doing Something About It….
strong winds…… Means…backed by HURRICANE Leah and all of us SP’s who has his back…
and a spiral arrangement of A&E Docu-series that produce heavy suppression to Scientology
Typhoon Rinder and Hurricane Leah – please, continue. You both are Humanitarian’s with Honors!
Wow! Talk about being passive aggressive! She may of well just said “You’d better come, or else”.
Can I ask, does DM get paid a salary? If not, then how does he manage to live such a fruitful life – does he depend on the charity of others?
yep, command intention, it could also be called a meme:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme
“A meme (/ˈmiːm/ MEEM) is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture.[1] A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme. Supporters of the concept regard memes as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate, mutate, and respond to selective pressures.[2]
What would Ron do? that’s the meme, LOL
I’d also say it’s contagion of aberration from Ron. or what would Ron do but only follow his policies, his HCOB’s.
Welcome to Scientology!
From the novel:
Vicky had never heard that word used in this context before.
“What’s grunge?”
Oh Hell, he thought, I just used another future term.
Again.
He brought up a memory to answer the question.
“It’s a style of fashion invented by Bertolt Brecht, he was a Marxist playwright from Germany. The whole thing was an absolute fraud that allowed himself pass to as a proper Communist and a friend of the working class when in fact he had absolutely no sympathy for them at all. As an example, although he wrote his plays as Communist propaganda they were published by a capitalist firm instead of a Communist collective because he was always paid in full and on time. And during the years of the Third Reich he hid out in Hollywood and on returning to Europe after the war got himself an Austrian Passport, a West German capitalist publisher, a Swiss bank account, and a state owned theater in East Berlin with a full staff of actresses. I suppose it’s nice work if you get it.”
Vicky stared at him and asked another question.
“Evelyn?” She said. “How do you know all of this?”
“I used to read encyclopedias for fun.”
“Oh…”
He did read encyclopedias out of boredom but he originally read about Brecht in a book on intellectuals by British historian Paul Johnson that wasn’t published in the present time yet.
“Many are called, few are chosen”…
The Sea Org air of superiority. well you can kiss my ***.
Also, you Sea Org goofs all look like a bunch of zombified WalMart greeters, but the WalMart greeters aren’t trying to unethically fleece you out of your happiness and well-being.
In fact, I apologize to WalMart greeters for the comparison.
Many are Bamboozled….Few put up with the abuse.
Dave,
Have you actually revised Command Intention to be Brown Nosing?
it would be awfully fun to set up a little keg party or wine-and cheese gathering, right across the street from all the MV event locations (as the orgs all show the stupid videos in their own “must attend” events)
I think they show them for 3 weeks in a row. (i’m always too busy to attend) So that would be three nice little summer parties ….
“ML” is very commonly used as valediction in Scientology. Yes I know it means “much love” but there is anything but “love” intended when they are making demands and veiled threats in order to bolster attendance or to attempt to sell bullshit. ML = MORE LIES seems more appropriate and Scientologists secretly deep down inside their cult mindset know that this is true. Fake and asserted affinity where in fact there is zero tolerance for affinity or love in the Sea Org.
Is this an example of a Scientology approved education? Perhaps “grade school grammar teachers” are categorized with psychiatrists.
It is INCREDIBLE how Scientology – BOTH under LRH and under DM EQUALLY – is a perfect example of “Lifton’s Eight Methods of Thought Reform (thought manipulation) like the example that this post about young Ethics officers demonstrate :
http://changingminds.org/techniques/conversion/lifton_thought_reform.htm
I have recently developed an incredible curiosity to understand the mechanisms involved in EXACTLY how an educated intelligent individual falls prey of a cult. Not that many studies have been done about it as the personality profile of the cult’s ex-members is very varied and different. We have come to a pretty wrapped-up understanding of how the thought reform itself occurs, but an understanding of the BASIC reasons that render an individual highly influential to cult phenomena is still a VERY young area of research. Perhaps understanding those reasons might help in recovering more and more people from destructive cults such as from Scn. If we can understand this as it specifically relates to Scn – IMHO, THE most sticky cult after the 1900s and 2000s – the ramifications in terms of real healing available are enormous.
As I have been able to ascertain, people get stuck to Scn for an INCREDIBLE amount of time, sometimes for decades!!! after they have “left” the cult. And it is not just a phenomenon that strictly applies to Scn/LRH sympathizers as such like to “The Indies”. For what I have been able to observe, it ALSO applies to most ex(es) even though with a different “feel” and manifestation. It is a fascinating phenomenon to observe, to say the least.
My theory is – and this is ONLY a rather sloppy out-of-pocket “hypothesis” – that the common denominator is a GUILT inducing practice through insidious means that caters to the basic human urge of what I can describe (and excuse my use of Scientologese ) as a “4th dynamic impulse” (the impulse to help people in general). As great as LRH’s charisma and command ability might have been (at least, publicly so), without the well-known guilt inducing “Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of Dynamics” as it relates to “Saving the Planet”, the stickiness of Scn would not have been so great.
I don’t think that the goal of “OT and Spiritual salvation” and its “unreachability” if we abandoned Scn was the basic motivation why others decided to stay in spite of the many instances of cognitive dissonance that many of us felt even in our first months (or years for some) in Scn. That motivation was strong enough, all right, but not as nearly as strong as the guilt-inducing one.
Guilt seems to be the common denominator of many of our bad experiences with Scn. I mean, what were Seck Checks REALLY for, if not to induce GUILT, and EVEN under LRH.
All the basic recipe needed for the creation of an incredible sticky glue, was :
1. Creating an artificial urgency : “The planet is dying and destroying itself, and won’t even last a liftime unless you do something about it NOW, even if it means abandoning and sacrificing ANY and EVERY personal goal that you have”.
Following LRH’s rationale for his assertion about this “urgency”, one might allege that this planet has been destroying itself since the early barbaric civilizations since some 3,000 + years ago!!!
Have you noticed how it is that those ancient religious and philosophies like Buddhism, for example, does not use any “urgency” to get others to start on a path towards enlightenment? In fact, such an “urgency” would be looked upon as an “Ego manifestation” instead of a manifestation of the real SELF. As civilizations evolve they destroy themselves to be born again from the ashes of burnt ignorance. That’s a NATURAL manifestation of what we call LIFE.
2. Creating a “solution” to such “urgency”, and making that “solution” EXCLUSIVE and all-encompassing.
3. Making others feel INCREDIBLE guilty not to practice that “solution”, and preferring to engage in “selfish” goals of personal achievement.
And those young Ethics officers have all been poisoned with the above. It is always easier with the young ones. That’s why you see so many young people in the SO these days, specially at Flag.
I’ll just pick up on one point above. I’d never heard of “cognitive dissonance” before so I looked it up. My own simplified definition was equal but opposing mental viewpoint. So I had the general concept but really didn’t relate to it personally. But one day on a blog about two years ago, pow! – long fall blowdown – laughter.
I should continue my intellectual and spiritual pursuits – BUT – I can’t trust anyone
I’m not saying I never studied anything after scn, but I never “dove into anything”, so to speak. Currently I’m happy to look into and get overview on the many subjects which come up on the blogs.
“I’ll just pick up on one point above. I’d never heard of ‘cognitive dissonance’ before so I looked it up. My own simplified definition was equal but opposing mental viewpoint. So I had the general concept but really didn’t relate to it personally. But one day on a blog about two years ago, pow! – long fall blowdown – laughter.”
🙂 A great feeling to realize that, isn’t it?
“I should continue my intellectual and spiritual pursuits – BUT – I can’t trust anyone
I’m not saying I never studied anything after scn, but I never ‘dove into anything’, so to speak. Currently I’m happy to look into and get overview on the many subjects which come up on the blogs.”
That’s great, Richard! Like you, I only trust my own evaluation and instincts. That’s always the safest way to accumulate knowledge and wisdom. Scn was enough of a lesson so as to not repeat the same errors over again.
Coincidentally, one manifestation that I observe in many ex-Scientologists is just that; a sort of fear or “carefulness” to study other subjects, especially the ones related to spirituality and healing therapies. And that’s TOTALLY understandable after such an incredible bad experience with “know-best” Mr. delusional LRH.
Just study anything through the filters of power of choice over data, and from a position of self-esteem and self-confidence never believing that any one “authority” is better or more capable than you are. Better err in the direction of arrogance and self-righteouness, than in the direction of amazement and/or a “propitiative” admiration for any “authority”. I never make the mistake of thinking that anyone is smarter than me. I know, it sounds rather arrogant, but it works for me just fine. 🙂
Mark, I will be your man in Europe, open and honest, I need you.
My first evening at AOLA on 16 Nov 1977 I got yelled at by Enid Byrne (RIP) wearing the whites with a skirt. She was short and working behind a small desk in a janitor closet off the hall in the Manor Annex.
Why did I stay? I had made a promise.
Back in 1983 or so I remember some crew that had done the OEC/FEBC had gone back to their orgs and caused some trouble so got declared Tigers and were not to hold exec posts again. Ruth Silverman was one. I haven’t seen any stories of the behind scenes about that.
I thought at the time it was to handle the heavy handedness. Guess not.
Then I thought DM was going to handle it. Guess not.
When I’d get thoughts of leaving. I kept thinking if all the good guys leave, who will fix it?
LRH trapped me. I THOUGHT the tech was worth fighting for.
Oh well….
Yeah, there’s lots and lots of, “guess nots” in Scientology hey?
Glad you’re out, Cece! You got your old life back! I celebrate with you!
Once you are indoctrinated into the words of Scientology you are like a Pavlov’s Dog.
“Command Intention”, absolutely sir! “out ethics” oh shit what did he do. “Backing up Ron!” I better do that or I will lose my eternity. “Goldenrod”. Oh I’m in trouble now, what can I do to make amends. It’s about insane control. One of the first things to do as your leaving is get rid of the f–king Hubbard quack nomenclature.
Imagine the degraded, beaten-down state of mind of a Scio who receives such a letter and then does what Sharron Webber the Freewinds Queen wants.
If you watch her on the CoSs Freewinds promo on YouTube you can observe that she rasps as if she’s been smoking for 40 years, or else she’s imitating Rod Stewart. She has a thoroughly unappealing voice. “I want you here” she says. Sounds like a man.
Well, with this year’s MV events just a few short days away, the theta quakes emanating from my local Ideal Org have reached such a crescendo of powerful postulating that, despite 35+ years of being away from $cn, I’m feeling its inexorable tidal pull, drawing me home once again to The One True Faith.
My rapprochement with cherch began with a very touching letter from one of the caring letter reges there who took the time and trouble to make me feel needed and wanted again. I knew that by answering her kind inquiry that I’d be receiving an invitation to come join them in fellowship again soon and I certainly wasn’t disappointed there!
However, who could have anticipated the outpouring of good wishes and invitations that have flowed in! Indeed, when I mentioned that I’d just settled my family’s estate and wanted to do something for the greater good with the windfall, there was just no end to the number of truly excellent ideas that I received in response. One very regular writer wanted me to know that she stood ready to assist me in any way possible to help me find the very best use possible for my small fortune. In fact, I was completely overwhelmed with the concern and caring that I was met with when I opened the door at 11:30 last night to find Kay on my doorstep, armed with many interesting pamphlets and an entire set of the Basic Books!
We talked and talked until way late in the night and she reluctantly said goodbye, only after arranging to meet with me again today. You know, it’s been awhile since I’ve met a stranger with that much goodwill and positivity flowing from them! I’m definitely going to sign up for some of the very exciting courses that the cherch is now offering at their beautifully restored historic org building.
I’m just a little worried though, because when I called up to firm up a time to meet today and mentioned that I’d need to bring my conservator with me to sign off on any purchases, the line went dead and I’ve not been able to reach anyone since. I’m sure it’s just a minor phone glitch, but if I still can’t reach them by tomorrow, then I’m going down there with my conservator and really get into the details about how I can “fly up the bridge”…I’ll be sure to let you know the outcome 😉
Ah, Harp, you went and put the fear of….what? God? Nah! Must be the substitute for that, Miscavige. What I can’t grasp (I’ve never met him) is how anyone can be so frightened of someone who is 4’13”? Does he squeak loudly?
Now they’re ORDERING members to come to these asinine briefings? And, they have to bring their friends too?
What’s next, forcing their way into homes of members?
They already do that! They have done so for years now.
Yes, OSD, they’re making attendance “mandatory” but they’ve been doing that for years, mostly with their tone of voice in issuing the “invitation”.
For as long as I can recall in the cult they issued what were ostensibly invitations to briefings, events and so forth, but they were given in a tone which strongly communicated , “We’re having this event and would love for you be there” (invitational tone) but instead, “You’d better show up, OR ElSE!” (Not an invitation, an order).
A number of times I replied to them, “Why do your invitations always sound like orders? If this were a real invitation, I could simply accept or decline, and if I declined I wouldn’t receive 12 phone calls afterwards inviting me again, over and over, when I already said ‘no'”. Nobody invites anyone to anything that way. It just isn’t done!”
Sometimes I varied this by saying, “I’m so sorry but I must decline your kind invitation”.
And they’d be ALL over this, saying, “Why, why, what are you doing, etc., etc.”
Me, in my best 3.5 conservative tone level, “Regretfully, I have a prior engagement”.
Them: “But what is it? This is so important/vital/bla bla bla bla and there’s breaking news that every Scientologist needs to know bla bla bla…bla bla bla…”
I’d wait for them to wind down and then, I’d say, sweetly, “I understand. I really do get it. I’m so sorry, but I already have plans, and I must get back to work now” – this, with no further info, leaving them frantic, demanding to know when they could call me back so we could have another comm cycle, etc., frantic because they had no data they could hook into…
This made them a little nuts. Which was the idea 🙂 Because that’s what their “invitations” always did to me. I would get my revenge, every so often, and it was sweet. After a while in the cult, I learned that, so long as I stayed polite and respectful, I could make them nuts and get away with it.
Why not? Certainly the need to clear the planet overrides such trivial things as privacy and property rights.
Sounds like Heinrich Himmler’s rationale that courtship and marriage were getting in the way of getting women pregnant in massive numbers to make millions of new Germans.
Scary.
My Great Grandmother told stories of young unmarried girls 16, 17, 18 becoming purposely pregnant to increase the number of Germans loyal to Hitler…..
Wow. Isn’t that just sick?
OSD They do that already. I had an IAS reg try to get in my car door when I was rolling!
If you won’t come to the briefing, we bring the briefing to you !
Briefing = Mind Control Manipulation, deceit and lies
OSD,
This goes back 20 years. An old friend, an early class 8, was helping the ED of a stumbling org by C/Sing part time. Late one night she answered the door to two female teens in SO uniforms. They demanded she immediately come to the org for an ‘all hands’ project. My friend held them at the screen door with the latch locked and told them: (1) i am not staff; (2) i am going to bed in 10 minutes, (3) you are trespassing on my porch, and (4) if the ED needs my help she will come here as a fiend and not send children to do an adults job. And slammed the door.
Two days later she went to the org, did her C/Sing, and finished without anyone saying a
word or mentioning the earlier mission from the SO.
Wow. Little Hitler Youth brats. No doubt about it.
Yep, ran into the Messenger teenagers at CLO more than a couple of times. I was always stunned at the reception of pure arrogance they gave me, snobby little shits they were. I was there running folders, doing tech cycles etc as a favor getting some of THEIR OWN members through certain actions, in my own time, none of it was even close to a stat for me! Such arrogance is never tolerated within any military system I’ve ever been involved with. Sure you get some assholes, stupid orders and insane scenarios but even the assholes realize the older, more experienced vets play around with guns, sharp pointy things and will go out of their way to get even (just to break the boredom if need be) if they piss us off too much.
The SO was Hubbard’s biggest mistake imo. Evidence like the above just makes me feel cold and wipes all friendliness from me.
Joffrey drank something that really didn’t agree with him, and at his own wedding no less, a fitting end. Ramsey’s demise was far more appropriate, that smile of Sansa’s as she walked away, oh my… wickedly delicious. Karma isn’t choosy. I wonder what she’s got in mind for those that relish the power the SO gives them over others?
Check out my Sea Org story!
Several years back when I was on staff, we were listening to our weekly and obligatory LRH lecture. As I had QM that night, I got up as the lecture was about to end to go down to HCO to get the keys to the building. I was making my way downstairs when this young woman from SO blocked my path and told me very angrily that I was never to walk out of an LRH lecture. I looked at her and the first thought that came to my mind was “Holy crap! You think this guy is god!”. I explained that I had QM and needed to secure the building. Seeing I had a valid reason to leave the lecture early, she stepped to one side and let me pass. All I can wonder is: what the hell goes on in Sea Org initial training? Are these people brainwashed to worship LRH and DM? Any insights from former members would be quite helpful.
I Yawn, It’s a real life ‘Animal Farm’ in the cult these days and the piggies are IN CHARGE!
“I wonder what she’s got in mind for those that relish the power the SO gives them over others?”
I don’t think we will have very long to wait to find out. Dave is in the middle of pounding down a double shit sandwich with season two arriving. Someone is going to need to be on deck for a major Heimlich maneuver to keep Dave from choking on his own bone.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, Julian will be looking for a bone of his own to choke on very soon. I visited an old friend today that was positively in shock when I showed up unannounced. I was informed that “I knew what the rules are and I shouldn’t be there”!
Rules???? We don’t need no stinkin rules!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whose ‘RULES’ are they anyway?
Yo Dave,
Who the fuck, in all of the broad universe really cares about your stinkin rules good buddy? Here is a clue Mr. shit for brains …………………… noooooooooooooone does! Caring about your rules is difficult to measure Dave because the units are in micro-milli-giveashits. Zero of those were recorded today Dave.
Okay now ……………. bite down Dave!
+1!
“micro-milli-giveashits”. I can use that 🙂
Real officers don’t make so many comma splices. Is that important? Well, it actually might be.
In real military organizations, people risk their lives on the word of an officer. Doing that is placing the biggest possible bet on human cultural constructs against animal instincts. So an officer has to embody the principle that human intelligence, and the rules it lays down, are superior to even the strongest instinctive drives.
If an officer can’t even master the rules of English grammar in peacetime, how on Earth can they master tactics so well that it’s worth staking your life on their word in time of war?
I know that this is not the most important takeaway from the letter, but is that level of writing something that strikes Scientology members as acceptable? As appropriate for anyone with a basic education or the ability to proofread?
Not much more to say other than what you said. I have experienced this shit (“command intention”) in spades and you nailed it when you said, “Think Joffrey from Game of Thrones.”
Integrity is a simple thing if one just truly asks themselves, “What do I TRULY THINK ABOUT THIS?” Then follow that, even if you lose something in doing so.
I think that shit you speak of Mary can be found in one of Dave’s daily sandwiches.
Command Intention is code for, we’re really going to fuck you up.
I like that, McCarran. Its true, I always know what I think about something, no matter what dog I happen to have in the race, no matter what axe I might have to grind, if any. I always know. And It can be tough, because one WANTs it to be a certain way, NEEDS it to be a certain way and not another way, for all kinds of reasons. Yet, inside, I do know the truth, what I know is right. Jesus! This kind of knowing can be very uncomfortable and inconvenient, sometimes, I must say!
Shakespeare’s “To thine own self be true” was right on the money, but integrity can be a bitch!
I guess everybody’s off … rushing to get ready for HowdyCon! 🙂
Have a blast, Kids!
Wow – there are a lot of similar looking young girls in that photo! History is littered with examples where teenagers with authority tend to let it go to their heads and abuse it. Hitler’s Youth Group, Mao’s Red Guards in the Cultural Revolution, Pol Pot’s Youth League. All of them did cruel and inhumane things to their fellow citizens in their zeal to represent the “wishes” of their leader. Few at that age are mature, emotionally stable or wise enough to weigh long-term consequences, they are often insecure and lack impulse control. Few things are more corruptible or vicious than a group of young people with no boundaries and unlimited relative power. They often operate like a street gang. It’s like Lord of the Flies, only in this case, with snazzy little uniforms. All that authority goes to their heads like a drug.
Sounds like LRH should have reread “Self Analysis ” before forming the Sea Org because in that very book he talks about the idea that youth can’t reason accurately due to inadequate data.
Re the similar looking girls — it’s interesting to me that so many women in the SO are promoted to executive positions, especially back in the 50-70s when that was fairly uncommon in the business world.
Donald Trump, whom I think we can all agree has a reputation as a demanding, very critical boss and determined to be the alpha male always and everywhere, also had an unusual number of female executives for the times, and for the business that he was in.
I think that it’s partly an openness to talent. It’s partly a self-confidence or sense of masculine entitlement so enormous that women can’t be perceived as threats. And I think it’s also perhaps true that women (in those times, in that business) were so grateful for the promotions that they would remain steadfastly loyal, and tolerate his maddening ways, long after male executives would probably have exploded and quit, or become perceived as threats or disloyal and been fired.
I believe that women can often teach lessons to men when it comes to to-the-end loyalty.
Cecybeans, you wrote my exact thoughts. All those little “Joffreys”, wet behind the ears and ignorant of experience, are deserving of the shock that will hit them hard as this teetering mess of scientology crashes about them. They will be so lost.
As a public, my experience was that for the most part the female, teen SO’s were the worst, the absolute worst and most obnoxious brats I’d ever had the misfortune to come across. And I’m someone who works with young people. I like teenagers, young people, young girls and guys, and they like me. But these young SO women nearly always antagonized me, turned me off. Possibly because they were trying so hard to be tough…I got that impression. I preferred the older SO’s, both female and male. But then, if truth be told, I avoided all SO whenever possible. I liked the staff of my little org but in my heart, Sea Org was “the enemy”. That’s the way I really thought of them even WAY before I started reading the blogs. True!
Teenage girls as a group can be catty and ruthless. Hence the believability of the movie “Mean Girls”. I think some of it is a reaction to being socialized to a role that is more subservient historically and generally, and where praise or worth is often primarily limited to physical attributes. Women are not given the same exposure to team situations, they compete with each other for status, and they are not given many examples of handling power gracefully (not to mention, power is perceived differently coming from women than men). Any society where that happens, it’s kind of a sad result. This kind of magnifies that tendency I think, to abuse it, especially when given too young. That old adage about “absolute power corrupts” comes to mind.
“Think Joffrey from Game of Thrones.
This is the world of scientology.”
Jeez. That paints a bit more of an understandable picture of SO kids for us never-ins.
Mick, it is one of most amazing but degrading experiences you’ll ever witness in the flesh & I was never SO but worked very closely with them. I’ve stared down a few of those snot nosed little shits trying to pull their SO superiority on me a couple of times (got some KRs for my troubles), but even they can recognize some serious but dangerous counter intention when it gets so close in their space they smell your breath. I still can’t believe it myself but it’s one of those things you’ll never fully grasp unless you experience it personally I guess. I have much empathy for the well intentioned SO member but thank God for LSD!
Living and working in the Scientology system is a living nightmare!
That’s one of the biggest problems I have with the cult. Sucking kids, KIDS, into the SO. No education, just Scientology.
The human brain isn’t fully developed until one is in the early 20’s…..sucking kids into “the organization” at an early age and making sure they have NO CONTACT with anything other than CO$ assures they will remain loyal and fearful of anything else outside CO$. It’s been working for decades.
What can one do with little to no education and no CRITICAL THINKING to compare what one has known their entire life to something they’ve had no exposure to. It’s a coin that has two sides that perfectly match….can’t compare what you DO know to what you DON’T know.
I am brain-storming what sort of jobs these ignorant bossy brats could get on ‘the outside’ …
* Network TV Program Scheduling
** City Bus Driving
*** Hall Monitor
I admit I am struggling here … :p
Lunch lady.
Waiter….they’ve already GOT those “snappy little vests” etc….
Soup Nazi
This is perhaps the most pathetic Scientology flyer in terms of the density of grammatical errors from a native English speaker. Sharron Weber from the FleeceWinds is a native English speaker, but I count two run-on sentences and a handful of other grammatical errors (not including use of Scientology jargon) in this relatively small e-mail.
I wonder if she looked at this before she sent it and thought, “Well, when I look at the tone scale, I’m writing this at 8.0 ‘Exhiliration’ and the audience is at 2.6, ‘Disinterested’ so this ought to reel them in by the dozens!” And then after several days of silence after hitting send as nobody replies, I wonder if Sharron considers that a) _everyone_ will want to miss these events and b) the tone scale is made-up drivel that doesn’t work so she doesn’t actually have super powers to compel people to do things if she’s broadcasting on a higher tone than they are.
Run-on sentences are to True Believers what intellectual stammering is to Ivy League professors. Sharon full well knows that the Technology only allows her to relate at ONE tone level above the recipient, at a time. LOL
Form over substance, strictly. “Give’em the old razzle-dazzle” with language. Simple, declarative sentences would be the most powerful way to communicate good news or great news. But there is no good news, only bad news, or, at best, no news, nothing to tell. So couch the nothingness in verbiage, make it real flowery and fancy-like. Sad! 🙂
Dear Shannon
Go f*** yourself.
ML
(no scratch that)
Simone AKA TrevAnon
LOL I like your style.
So do I! Makes me want to write my own letter:
“Dear Sharon,
You’re fooling no one and fighting a losing battle. Scientology is steadily shrinking and the Freewinds stats are in the toilet and of this you are fully aware. Only the threat of disconnection keep your silly OTs from throwing your stupid, bullying comm into their round file.
Much love,
Aqua”
Wow, Mike, back in the 90s all the Maiden Voyage Anniversary attendees for next year were confirmed before they left the Freewinds this year. There was never a need to chase up someone.
Of course, in those days you had a chance to see Mike Rinder speak at Maiden Voyage. Now all they have is Dave spouting Shermanspeak, and maybe a dramatic reading of a Hubbard short story. Do they even show new films at the Maiden Voyage Anniversaries any more?
You have to be a true mind numbed robot to look forward to a cruise like that, especially when you know that the IAS vulture registrars will be out in full force to extract every penny of your fortieth mortgage and all your retirement funds.
With all the passenger cabins filled, and a few dozen Gold crew, and the Dave Miscavige Entourage packing into the A Deck cabins, the poor old rust bucket was crammed to the gills on Maiden Voyage Anniversary in the 90s. The Freewinds crew were sleeping in the Course Rooms and passageways, when they got the chance to sleep. There were no beds in the chain locker or the steering gear compartment but just about every other horizontal surface was accounted for.
They probably have to chase up the strays these days. The under-the-radar types probably sign up for Freewinds cruises, events, briefings and courses just to shut up the registrars then somehow just fail to show up. I know that’s what I would do!
Bruce, if that’s what you would do, let’s book our tickets now for the next Maiden Voyage event.
It might be fun.
If ppl sign up, then are no shows, does the “hammer” come down?
Mike,
Back when I was in, THIS above all else – as exemplified here, THIS automatic assumption of total authority by Sea Org over everyone, this presumption pressed every button on my restimulation console.
I can’t adequately describe the inwardly violent reaction I would have to being addressed in this covertly bullying tone by these people.
The anger would boil up inside of me and I’d struggle to not let it show or I’d be sent to Ethics and have to waste time there.
I knew that my reaction was irrational. I suspected it as such due to the intensity.
For the most part a biddable, fairly agreeable Sheeple, this approach by Sea Org (or anyone) ALWAYS had the same result:
I would refuse with fake, sweet regret, or, if I couldn’t get away with an outright refusal I’d sandbag them, stall, make excuses and ensure that whoever it was did NOT get the stat they craved, at least, not that day.
In short, I was the posterwoman for covert hostility right back at them..
Afterwards I’d have to go for a walk and sometimes it would take as much as a day to get over the anger I was covering up.
Good thing I was always a public.
I would have lasted at best a couple of weeks on staff, and in the Sea Org? LOL. 2 days, optimistically.
“In short, I was the poster woman for covert hostility right back at them.”
Good for you, Aquamarine! Seriously, these people can go fuck them selves. From what I know of you, you don’t take shit lightly. I’m glad you got back in their faces! Good on you! YOU fought the good fight, and I admire that!
Thanks, OSD. Covert hostility can be useful tone level sometimes, with certain people.
Experience taught me NEVER to show anger or antagonism as re ANY issue with ANY Scientologists, most particularly staff or SO, because they’d call it “misemotion” (which it wasn’t) and as such use it as a “hook” to keep the comm cycle going. i do believe that staff and SO were trained to pressure, to press and press and press and press so that one would collapse in apathy to make it stop or explode with exasperation at the fucking nerve of them, and, of course, it was the latter, then one would have to get “handled” in Ethics and the thing would never end…anyway, thru bitter experiences sustained in being my spontaneous self I learned to never show them anything below 2.5 (boredom) and instead I’d drive the angry feelings down and mock up a creditable 3.0 conservative tone level. But it wasn’t a true 3.0 so it would piss them off. And I’m glad, because they sure annoyed the shit out of me.
Its true… I had one of them call me once long ago and start ordering me around and threatening me and I WASN’T EVEN ON LINES anymore then… Arrogant idiot assholes ! I simply told her to shut the F up and hung up !
Good for you! I would have done worse.
Yes, Mike. That is the world of *Corporate* Scientology. Thankfully, we have no Sea Ogres amongst the Independents (well, perhaps a couple of wannabe’s).
Are you an independent, then? You still believe Hubbard was a great man? Have you not explored the internet a bit to expose yourself to criticisms of LRH? Please go down the rabbit hole of truth, and explore what he really was.
Don’t bother. He’s a Scientologist to the core. Even most indies now will say “He was a flawed man, but the tech works!”
It’s not a conversation to bother with. They have their religious beliefs, they won’t change them.
“He was a flawed man, but the tech works!”
Haha, thanks Gsix; that comment of your brought up a few laughs. That’s one “argument” that I can’t even remember the amount of times that I’ve heard it; “I know that he was a flawed man but the tech works”.
You know I tried again and again in countless times to try to get the Indies to understand the inherent contradictions of that assertion of theirs. I patiently wrote a few rather long articles meticulouly going point after point on how exactly LRH contradicted himselt left and right policy after policy, HCOB after HCOB, and how so many of his writings were a DIRECT violation of many of the Human Rights that he “defended” in many of such writings. I did it in a very friendly manner, you know, sort of a “Good Roads Good Weather” way, but I was NEVER EVER able to get them to accept anything. Not even a variation of their assertion towards something more responsible like, “I know that many of LRH’s writings are wrong and violate many Human Rights and shouldn’t be applied at all. We are really sorry for that, but there are auditing procedures that work for us, and we believe that they should not be just thrown off”. Not even something like that which is a LOT more acceptable than their robotic and usual claim that you mentioned.
And I not only tried to do that publicly; I ALSO attempted to do it privately with MANY of them through email lines trying to get to a common point of sanity and responsibility for the sake of those separated families that LRH’s policies – in a UNADULTERATED form – had hurt so much. But not even privately was I able to change their minds not even in the tiniest way. And right there was when I decided that they were a LOST cause. The ONLY exception that I found was the people at DROR Israel. I don’t agree that there is ANY real value in Scn as it is just TOO booby-trapped. But at least they don’t practice it from a cultic viewpoint. The sound like real people instead of ronbots.
The heady past-lives concept of oneself, fools the young Scientologist Sea Org members into believing they have done these “command” jobs in past-lives, and nothing they do in the Sea Org is “new.”
The spiritual beliefs of Scientologist Sea Org members has to be included in the discussion of Sea Org members’ behaviors justifications.
“We come back” in some of their minds is real, and they are here today in the Sea Org with this idea that they are here, second time around, already.
It’s delusion, and powerful “reality” in their minds.
It’s a problem.
“Re-Runs”. The last current slang I fought to keep a straight face through, was hearing a guy casually boast about his daughter and say, “yeah, she’s a re-run for sure”
Auditors may not “evaluate” but sure as shyte, all round the little podunk orgs, there are parents nodding sagely and mouthing confidently or confidingly that their offspring is surely a “second time round” or “re-run”.
true dat
It’s a funny that today I’ve watched this interview with Tom De Vocht:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN-fiP7POuE
Amongst other things he talks about how he became a messanger at a very young age (twelve I think) which gave him authority over just about everybody else in the Sea Org.
A perfect reflection of L. Wrong Tubbolard’s egoism.
OT: video of Harlem scamologists being confronted about LRH’s anti-black racism. Scamologists call police. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4I9RRrarIs
Great video, Mike! Everyone! Click on this video!
“Attendance is mandatory!” lmao
Yeah, that is hilarious. To think these creeps have any authority. Their wake-up call will hit them so bloody hard.
“Attendance is mandatory.” Wanna bet? My middle finger to whoever said that…
Thank you Mike. A picture down a long past road. I sure do remember the dress whites. When first in the Sea Org I was in awe when Flag come to Asho D & F for presentations or to observe. After all that happened to me and all that happened to many,many others, I see the dress whites as all part of the Command-Control- Obey that The Sea Org operates from. And believe me I was screamed at by some of the best Ethics Officers in the SO but none were kids. I can’t imagine going in to be abused by a child.I do not care if they were a Big Thetan in a meat body. The sequence is backwards
and wrong. Children should have a childhood ,not berating staff for screwing up some obscure policy & then getting thrown under the bus for it. A great post. ?