This is the third in the scientology HBO footbullet series. See the two previous posts.
My comments about are in blue. They follow reviewing the Freedom magazine pages about Alex Gibney and HBO.
Below is the introductory statement:
More than two years after Alex Gibney, Lawrence Wright and HBO started working in secret on a film glorifying bitter, vengeful apostates expelled from the Church of Scientology for malfeasance, they continue to stonewall any offers to meet with Church officials. Furthermore, they won’t tell the Church any of their allegations, let alone allow for a fair and reasonable response.
Glorifying? I doubt it. I am sure that the vast majority of people who see my interview and wonder “is there something wrong with that guy that he didn’t wake up for 35 years?” It’s not as if I scaled Mt. Everest or won a gold medal at the Olympics. I doubt I will come across as too “glorious.” That is a scientology thing – basking in the glory of feigned status. They hand out gawdy trophies like candy and have idiotic statuses in order to “glorify” people.
The Church has documented evidence that Gibney’s sources are admitted perjurers, proven liars and professional anti-Scientologists whose living depends on their false claims against the Church.
Funny, I don’t think Jason Beghe or Paul Haggis’s living depends on their “false claims” against the church. I know mine certainly doesn’t. My work exposing the abuses of scientology is a labor of love, not my livelihood. If I had to live off what I have gotten in return for speaking the truth I would be residing in a “shoebox in t’middle of the road” (to quote Monty Python).
The Church repeatedly wrote to Alex Gibney but its correspondence was ignored. The Church is disclosing some of this correspondence here.
Why not all of it? And why not the correspondence from Alex Gibney or HBO? Or all the letters from the church attorneys?
Scientology has seen greater expansion over the past decade than in the previous 50 years combined. Its 11,000 Churches, missions and affiliated groups now brighten every part of the globe, while Scientology has opened 40 Ideal Churches spanning five continents since 2004 alone. Its humanitarian and social programs touch lives in 167 countries.
One word: bullshit.
Following are some excerpts from the church letters put up on the Freedom site. They are merely some points that interested me, not necessarily the most significant. Note of course that it is a “selection” and omits ANY communication FROM HBO and also omits ALL correspondence from the CHURCH LAWYERS, while bitterly complaining that lawyers respond to them rather than Alex Gibney.
November 14, 2014
As for your letter and statements:
“Various questions have been raised about the administration of the church,”
We cannot answer ambiguous charges. Please provide specific allegations, per your journalistic duties.
Your sources are unqualified and know nothing about the Church today given most of them were dismissed by the Church a decade or more ago.
Of course, they bitterly complain that they are “not being informed” about who the “sources” (interesting term for someone who is interviewed on camera) are nor any specifics about their “allegations” but of course, they absolutely KNOW they are unqualified and that they know nothing about the Church.
“I believe that some of these questions can be answered only by David Miscavige.”
Give us the questions and we will determine who can answer them. It is impossible that only Mr. Miscavige can answer them. In fact, it’s a ridiculous assertion. Please provide the questions and the Church will provide timely responses.
How is it “impossible”? David Miscavige physically assaulted me. Marty Rathbun witnessed it. There were 3 people in the room. Who is going to respond to that OTHER than David Miscavige? Jenny Linson? Monique Yingling?
December 16, 2014
This whole concocted story started with Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun, discredited sources for you and Lawrence Wright. Wright’s book is a compendium of lies threaded together with the psychotic ramblings of a bunch of obsessed anti-Scientologists kicked out of the Church years ago. The book itself is nothing less than an example of corrupt, unethical journalism. Compared to Wright’s book, Rolling Stone’s debacle is Pulitzer-worthy.
This is an interesting premise. I wonder how they reached the conclusion that “this whole concocted story started with Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun…”? Just curious as I was and am unaware of this “fact.”
Apparently we have taken on mythic powers – apparently people inside the church are told that “all the out tech” or “the problems with Narconon” or “crush regging” or anything else anyone ever complains about “started with Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun.” To misquote Mel Brooks famous line, “It’s good to be the SP.”
Make no mistake, I definitely want to push you into a corner. I have repeatedly told you that I will answer allegations and provide you documentary proof they are false. I absolutely intend on having you on record as being offered these documents and either ignoring them or having seen them. And if, after having seen them, you ignore these materials, then I will also have a record of that.
I reiterate again: meet with us and we will present you the information.
Regards,
Karin Pouw
This exposes exactly why Miscavige cannot sign his name to these letters. He could not do his chest pounding, passive/aggressive schtick and then say “meet with us” as he will NEVER meet. So, he has to write the letters and hide behind someone else’s name. And for the record, Karin Pouw doesn’t have the required sociopathic traits to write such overtly antagonistic, bullying letters such as the above (and some quoted below).
December 16, 2014
As an example of Alex Gibney’s bias, one of his anti-Scientology sources, Mike Rinder, is his Facebook friend. Rinder was kicked out of the Church for severe malfeasance as an external affairs officer. We later learned he was part of a trio involved in the subornation of perjury, not to mention a documented wife abuser.
Oh dear. I am Facebook friends with Alex Gibney (and Lawrence Wright — they forgot to mention). And that is some sort of evidence that Alex Gibney is biased? He has more than 3200 friends and Larry has more than 4900… But this proves some sort of plot and conspiracy? Funny, “David Miscavige Leader of Scientology” has a Facebook page and the top of the “Likes” include Graham Berry, Sam Freeman and Scott Pilutik. OMG, call the President – oh, forgot, he hasn’t been seen for years and is locked away at the compound in San Jacinto.
As for the “kicked out of the Church for severe malfeasance as an external affairs officer” – I thought the church was railing about the importance of telling the truth. It’s endless allegations about how HBO/Alex Gibney are not telling the truth and how reprehensible this is, and scientology is dropping clangers like this.
For the record, when I escaped the church, in London, England, I was there in the capacity of “International Spokesperson for the Church of Scientology International.” Of this there can be no doubt as I had just appeared in John Sweeney’s BBC Panorama program and via satellite on Anderson Cooper’s CNN program as the church spokesman. I was also one of the 5 members of the Board of Directors of the Church of Scientology International. I escaped – I was not “kicked out for severe malfeasance.”
And the story of the “wife abuse” can be found here. It is an account of 7 people (my ex-wife included) being dispatched to a parking lot to spring a surprise “confrontation” on me. I did not go looking for her, she flew across the country with these others, had me followed, and then surrounded me, screaming obscenties and tried to prevent me from getting back into my car and leaving the area. The incident was recorded by the BBC. This is the “wife abuse” they are so fond of tossing out.
So let’s get this straight:
- HBO commissions a documentary based on a book by Lawrence Wright, who has this entire posse of anti-Scientologists that he used as sources on his Facebook page as friends.
- The filmmaker of HBO’s documentary, Alex Gibney, not only has Mike Rinder as a Facebook friend but follows him and others of this anti-Scientology posse, the sources, on Twitter.
- HBO is reportedly flying these and other zealots into Sundance to promote the film, and paying for their hotel and accommodations, according to rumors on the internet. Is this true?
Oh no, Twitter too! Captain Miscavige doesn’t even HAVE a Twitter page, so probably doesn’t really know what it is. Or is afraid that if he did he might get followers like me…
With this sort of reasoning, it is no wonder Miscavige is lording over a rapidly shrinking empire. He has reached the level of bona fide conspiracy theory nut.
And I find it interesting that on December 16 they write a letter that states that there is “rumor on the internet” that HBO is flying “zealots” to Sundance and paying their hotel “and accommodations.”
I was contacted by HBO by email on 16 December about making travel arrangements.
There was no “rumor on the internet” — this is a cover for the fact that scientology is accessing communications they should not be accessing and then trying to “make it overt” by asking for confirmation. It’s an old trick.
For the record, HBO is not flying me first class like Miscavige does for Monique Yingling. Nor springing for the Four Seasons or Ritz Carlton. Miscavige pays Yingling millions of dollars, has her eat at the most expensive restaurants etc etc and he holds her out as an unbiased source of truth about scientology, speaking on his behalf. But if HBO pays for anyone to fly to see the premiere of the film they are in, this is somehow proof of bigotry?
As usual, the sauce for the goose is not for the gander.
December 24, 2014
I am writing you again as I have yet to receive a reply from you. Instead of answering my correspondence, you turned it over to your attorney to answer.
This one is pretty rich. HBO turned over the letters to their counsel? Hahahaha.
Sauce for the goose….
As stated in no fewer than ten letters to you and HBO, for us to know what is relevant you need to give us the questions, assertions and allegations. Stop with the guessing game. As we repeatedly have said, we have available volumes of documentary evidence, court rulings, facts and declarations signed under penalty of perjury.
Here, once again, Miscavige is exposed through his blustery attempts to bully: “Stop with the guessing game.” Pure Miscavige.
What is so amazing is the illogic within his own statements.
He KNOWS what it is that HBO should have, but he isn’t going to provide it to them because “they haven’t told him what they want.”
Which is it Captain Miscavige? Do you know? Or don’t you know? Why didn’t you just sent it all along? You have been talking about it now for more than a month….
That your approach “primarily has been to interview those individuals, who speak to their own personal experiences.”
How do you know these people are telling the truth about these so-called “personal experiences?” Couching something as a “personal experience” is not a license to lie. If any of them have a “personal experience” in the Church, then there are countless others who shared that experience and are certainly relevant. Cherry picking a small handful of bitter, hateful individuals without asking the Church to identify those who may have been involved in these “personal experiences” reflects your bias.
More illogic: They know HBO “cherry-picked” a small handful of “bitter, hateful individuals” so why are they acting so aggrieved that they have not been informed who the individuals are? How do you accuse someone of wrongdoing, stridently claim that this is the case, and then say “so you need to tell me what you did that was wrong.”
That “interviews with other persons who were eyewitnesses to the events these individuals describe are appropriate and would be valuable to the filmmaker.”
Once again, that is what we have been saying all along. We will give you “eyewitnesses” if we know what they are supposed to be eyewitnesses to. Give us the allegations. We have more people than you likely have room for. So get prepared.
More tough talk. But of course, not a one of them will agree to be interviewed. First and foremost, Captain Miscavige.
That “contrary to your assertion, Mr. Gibney did not ask Mr. Miscavige (nor the Pope, for that matter) to ‘defend the tenets of his faith.’”
With no disrespect to the Catholic Church, this characterization is entirely inaccurate. Mea Maxima Culpa dealt with numerous concluded legal cases. By contrast, we have won each and every legal case brought by your sources. In fact, at least five of them have state and/or federal court rulings against them.
Your analogy with the Catholic Church pedophile issue is offensive. You wanted the Pope to justify why priests committing crimes remained in the Church so long. Yet with us, you want Mr. Miscavige to answer for why he cleaned house by removing individuals who have confessed to crimes, are admitted liars, committed financial malfeasance, stole from the Church, committed acts of violence and engaged in other unacceptable behaviour. If anything, it’s the opposite.
Your sources were dismissed for cause and expelled. Why aren’t you asking them to defend their behaviour?
Amazing. If anyone cannot see through this virtual admission of guilt, they belong in the church of scientology.
What are you afraid of? We will be in New York after the holidays and will contact you.
The bully closes with another machismo challenge.
Interestingly, we know what HE is afraid of. Cameras. Reporters. Depositions. Lawsuits. The general public. “Unemployed bitter defrocked apostates on the fringes of the internet.” Martians. Germs. Luggage with wheels. Sharp pencils.
January 7, 2015
I am writing to you as once again you refuse to answer my letters and refer all my communications to your attorney.
Bwaha
You avoided the Church for two years and still refuse to provide us an opportunity to respond to allegations you will make in your film. Yet you have no problem with HBO picking up the entire travel and accommodations tab to send a professional anti-Scientologist like Mike Rinder to Sundance for your screenings. Of note, Rinder admitted that in a sworn deposition just yesterday. Two weeks ago we also deposed another of Wright’s principal sources, Marty Rathbun. Both depositions, under oath, contain incontrovertible evidence about the bias of your sources, not to mention their monetary incentives, which in accordance with journalistic standards you must disclose to viewers and film critics.
Fascinating. These depositions are NOT public. The transcript has not even been reviewed by me and signed. It was clear that the vast majority of questions had nothing to do with the Garcia case, but were attempts to get something that could be used in the footbullet circus in response to HBO. It is good to have confirmation of this. Especially in light of the Judge’s admonition that the discovery process was not be abused.
Had Wright checked with us, we would have provided ample information showing the pathological lies of people like Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun—as well as virtually every “source” Wright revealed to us when the book was published. The only reason not to tell us was to keep us from shredding their credibility.
Pathological lies? The lies he refers to are the ones on behalf of the church. Most specifically when asked on camera by John Sweeney of the BBC whether the “thumping Pope of scientology” (David Miscavige) had ever physically assaulted me. I lied. I said he had not. He had, numerous times. It was my job to protect the “good name” of David Miscavige and scientology at the time. It haunted me to lie like that. I escaped shortly thereafter.
We will be in New York next week to meet. We come with facts, judicial decisions and documents (you know, documents—as in that word documentary). And unlike Rinder, you don’t have to pay our airfare and accommodations. We aren’t in bed with you or Facebook friends.
Don’t worry, you don’t have to pay our airfare. We have PLENTY of money. Billions in fact. We don’t spend it on “humanitarian programs” but we spare no expense to fly people all over the country if Captain Miscavige’s reputation is being questioned.
What Slim Pickens is to B-52 pilots, David Miscavige is to PR practitioners.
The letters from “Karen Pouw” are reminiscent of the kind of letters sent by individuals who wear aluminum foil hats and who stalk their victims. Each Pouw letter is increasingly more bizarre and desperate: “YOU DON’T ANSWER ME,” “YOU ARE FACEBOOK FRIENDS WITH OUR ENEMIES,” “YOU GIVE MY LETTERS TO YOUR ATTORNEYS,” “THIS MY 50th LETTER, ANSWER IT,” “I WILL BE IN NYC TO MEET YOU.” Imagine if these letters were sent from a stalker, “YOU DON’T ANSWER ME,” “YOU CALLED THE POLICE ON ME INSTEAD OF ANSWERING THE PHONE,” “I SAW YOU TALKING WITH THAT OTHER WOMAN,” “I WILL BE AT YOUR HOUSE TOMORROW.” I would not be surprised to learn that, after receiving Pouw’s letters, HBO increased security protection for Gibney and its own offices
Poor David Miscavige! He cannot step down and say he is not Captain anymore. At the same time he would admit having been the one.
He has played too long and cannot quit. Now the game is playing him. Cause and effect reversed. Poor poor guy.
To paraphrase Kirstie Alley,
If all your church seems to produce is bitter defrocked apostates, then you might be doing something wrong. Just saying.
PS David Miscavige. Answer me this. If Mike and Marty have been gone so long that nothing they have to say has any relevance on what the Church of Scientology is today, how is it that you can assert that they are responsible for all that is wrong in the Church of Scientology today?
DM: Lou, for the love of Ron, will you handle this biach!!!
Excuse me, Michael M. I prefer to be called a beehatch, western U.S. pernunceeashun. And thank you kindly for the ever so nice compliment 😉
“The overt doth speak loud in accusation.”
So long Cof$, quick or slow the end is on its way and there’s nothing you can do about it Davey except scream loudly I suppose. You have done a grand job of letting the world know you are very nervous indeed about the spotlight being shined upon you. Like a deer on a highway – you have no ideal what you’re stepping into. The results will be similar.
Apparently we have taken on mythic powers – apparently people inside the church are told that “all the out tech” or “the problems with Narconon” or “crush regging” or anything else anyone ever complains about “started with Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun.”
Reminds me of Orwell’s Animal Farm, where the expelled Snowball was then made ‘responsible’ for every negative thing that happened, even if it meant re-writing history.
Yeah, the same thing with Mayo – he was blamed for decades for lack of tech results and all sorts of problems. Now it’s Marty’s and Mike’s turn to be responsible for miscavige’s disaster generator.
You had me laughing at his fear of “luggage with wheels”.
Well, Mike, I for one would like to wish you a wonderful time at Sundance. I don’t know when you’re leaving or where you’re staying or who you’re going with because I don’t have access to that information.
Enjoy the red carpet treatment, the laurels, the adulations – BASK IN YOUR GLORY!
and, thank you Mike, for everything you do in your labor of love. If my son ever comes homes, I know who I’ll owe a big debt of gratitude.
My sense is that the HBO documentary has really caused Miscavige to unravel. It is amazing to me that a group of former Scientologists with knowledge, and more importantly, the courage to speak that knowledge, can have such a good impact.
Truth has always been The Achilles heel of Scientology.
Thank you, all.
“Truth has always been the Achilles heel of Scientology.” Love it.
WAKE UP SHEEPLE! and smell the napalm, I mean foot bullet, I mean THE TRUTH!!!!
They should just build a robot and program it. Peat and repeat, the arguments do not change and it is now so boring! Well, going to do anything else, sleep, scratch, anything else. Wake me up when they have something new.
“What Slim Pickens is to B-52 pilots, David Miscavige is to PR practitioners.”
Mike, I have only read LRH’s PR series once and even I am able to observe violation after violation of their own policies. As a highly trained PR expert who has actually applied these policies in the real world, this foot bullet machine gun demonstration must have your head spinning in disbelief as you dutifully apply those policies correctly to answer each and every ridiculous lie uttered by the cherch.
Miscavige seems to be oblivious to the effects of his own actions as he keeps going “Ka-Pouw!”, “Ka-Pouw!”, “Ka-Pouw!”. Unbelievable. He might be brilliant in some ways but on so many levels he just a f—ing moron.
Here’s a little light hearted counterpoint to the Slim Pickens wild ride to hell in the Dr. Strangelove movie that you make reference to at the beginning of this article:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRkychAV820
🙂
BwahahahaaH! at the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology publishing extracts from depositions in an unrelated case.
I’m sure the judge would never think of this as abuse and that if the shoe were on the other foot, if the contents of a deposition by a member in good standing of the Co$ or one of their henchmen were quoted out of context, then the Co$ would be cool with that.
I guess I have a different take on the whole “footbullet” thing. As I’ve previously stated a few times, I think Miscavige’s business model is to just milk the 12,000 people on lines to a yearly average of $10 – 20,000 each. May even get much more. Ten million, twenty million a year. It’s a lot of change.
Davey knows he’s already lost the general public in the Western world. More people watching this movie isn’t going to have an effect on his bottom line, they ain’t coming in anyway. Also I don’t think more than a handful (if that many) of the sheeple on lines will watch the movie or read any of the books/blogs. Too big a withhold, and they don’t have the theta power anymore to confront that info or even consider any of it as true. BUT … the heavy hitters and celebs! Duggan, Nancy Cartwright, Craig Jensen and co. of course ALL know about this movie and the books. As no doubt do Kirstie, JT and TC and company in show biz. So … THEY all expect a hard hitting response from Davey. Not the least of all because their wog friends/associates will bring it up and they have to have a powerful answer they can be referred to. Thus my own opinion is that the response is really for THIER benefit (well, of course it’s actually for DAVE’S benefit because he has to keep his biggest customers happy to keep rakin’ in the dough … like any business).
Joe, I agree with you that DM is playing to a select crowd these days, but I believe he cares very much about his public persona and does not like to be mocked or to be seen as anything but a benevolent leader.
So, we need to keep up the J&D because there is nothing he can do to stop it. Maybe (just maybe) some of the die hard look aid drinkers will stop to think and to ask themselves ‘why?’
Nice rebuttal, Mike, but it’s not like they’ve ever dealt in real world facts.
So much furied letter writing that boils down to:
We haven’t seen the documentary but we know it’s filled with lies.
We’re pissed that you haven’t told us what claims are being made so we can respond (e.g. threaten you).
We have massive loads of documents that refute any claims being made and discredit any and all people making those claims even though we claim that we don’t KNOW WHAT THEY ARE (sure, you don’t) and you refuse to meet with us to see them even though we DEMAND that you met with us to view the documents (ignoring that the New Yorker and Wright meeting this demand directly lead to Wright’s book).
And we’re monitoring your Facebook and Twitter friends.
Hmmm….Combine the following:
Obvious logical inconsistancies and fallacies.
Monitoring Facebook and Twitter friends (just plain creepy and strange in the real world unless you’re dealing with stalkers and psychos).
Over the top letters from a church PR official (can you imagine a regular church writing letters with a tone and language like these?)
Anti-HBO documentary ads
People with little knowlege of the cult will want to check the documentary out because this hoopla is so nutso. Everybody else with even a little knowledge was already going to check it out. Great job, Miscavige, you just increased the viewership of the documentary. If you do the same with Theroux’s film BBC will not need a promo budget.
Oh, and kuddos for using unreleased uncertified depo material…you’re an idiot, Dave.
My favorite line: “Make no mistake, I definitely want to push you into a corner.”
So get in that corner! Get in that corner now! Why won’t you get in that corner!
What to make of this self-destructive aggressiveness of David Miscavige?
Is his reign of terror showing sufficient cracks to assume the end is near?
Yes, I know there are opinions that say the church of scientology has billions of dollars and could continue the scam for decades.
But my opinion is that money is NOT what makes up a Church or a Cult pretending to be one. It’s parishioners and clergy. I am sure they wont run out of cash anytime soon. But I am equally convinced it will run out of parishioners and most of it’s clergy way before it will go bankrupt financially.
No flock/sheeple means no Chult. If DM doesn’t have anyone left to order around and exert complete control over…… it’s over IMHO. Regardless of the billions in the bank accounts and value of their buildings.
The catholic church, one of THE richest and oldest working institutions (2000 years old!) was practically considered dead in a lot of area’s of the world. Especially Europe, with huge lofty and historical buildings and lots of cash in the bank, but nobody attending the Sunday service. Empty church benches. Luckily for them, they could change their strategy and have worked their way up again by connecting to the common people again through various popular Popes, like John PauI Il and the current pope. Money never was an issue, followers were. They fixed that, Scientology can’t.
What are the breakdown of WDAHs, STP, GI?
By org, cont, Sea Org orgs org by org and total, FSO GI, and long range, like 30 year stats.
30 year stats of HCO stats.
30 year stats of IAS GI.
Scientology won’t tell their stats publicly anymore, not like all these ex staff knew those stats when they were in.
Show their stats, just like when we were in the Sea Org, and saw the CIC stat breakdowns weekly, as ordered that all management Sea Org staff at the HGB level were supposed to view them!
That would tell the non PR truth.
If journalists knew the stats, and how to ask clearly for them, then the stats would cut through the BS.
Chuck Beatty
ex Sea Org, 1975-2003
and I used to keep very close watch of the stats, weekly, when I had availability to the INCOMM computer stats system from HGB level on up.
Chuck,
What you wrote was very true. The sad part is that not only will journalists not understand what they are supposed to be looking for, but the majority of people still in don’t understand what they are supposed to be looking for. I doubt someone could even pull a real 10 year HCO stat at this point.
What a barrage of betrothed buffoonery. That, my good folks, is what you do with a machine gun full of foot bullets. Unfriggin believable
This phrase is typical of DM: “Make no mistake…” he says it at events, when threatening execs, in the IAS Mags, and so on. Now we can call the Leader of an expanding Religion “Karin”, not caring, just Karin.
How to make crime boss David Miscavige go mad with anger: reply to any of the Karen Pouw letters as:
To: David Miscavige writing as Karen Pouw
These are lying thug letters, but history has been won by thugs. I think the only answer is for victims of Scientology to make it personal by acting out in a more dramatic way, starting with the victims of disconnection. Hold up signs with SCIENTOLOGY KIDNAPPED MY FAMILY in Clearwater and the like. They should not have a moment of peace.
Wow. I read through some of the letters on the Freedum.org website. Sounds like Rumpelstiltskin is having one fit after the other. What unbelievable idiocy to publish these letters written by a lunatic with the maturity of a spoiled rotten 6 year old to scared to sign in his own name.
Sea org members and Scientologists this is your leader?
Wholly crap.
Mike, great job in commenting on this verbal diarrhea. I don’t know how you do this. Sorting through this crap everyday.
Gerhard:
I didn’t go to the website to read them because I don’t want my click there to be a thursday stat. Besides the juicy bits are all over the internet now. I wonder how many sci-public and espcially whales will read them. If I were one of the latter I would think he’s totally gone off his rocker. Speaking of which it would be lovely to send his Pouwpy letters to a PSYCH who has studied poison pen letters and ask she/he to profile the writer because he is supected of committing crimes.
I assume Sea ogres won’t have access.
I don’t want to read the letters at their website either because I don’t want to give them the STATisfaction of a click. I want them to pay for each and every click they get.
I also am not sure they have any value honestly. They seem to continue along the same vein any letter from Miscavige dies this day; threats and not much substance. Not worth wasting a lot of time on.
I’m amazed a lawyer hasn’t muzzled him by now. Of course, they probably laugh and reach for the luxury vehicle brochure they were looking at. He keeps their pockets well padded with these little temper tantrums.
If ‘crush regging’ is the fault of Mike and Marty, then that is easily corrected. Both are out of the Co$, so why doesn’t the regging just stop? Isn’t David Miscavige powerful enough to stop that abuse? Dave, just send a memo forbidding the practice and it should stop…..right? Easy peasy
Wow Chee you’re right. I’m sure he will get right on that as soon as ……..NEVER.
Don’t take Karin Pouw too literally. After the Reitman book came out a few years ago, she stated that “only 0.0001% of it was true.” That comes out to about one or two letters of one word (the book was about 400 pages, or about 200,000 words).. Was “the” incorrect?
Mike, I don’t know how much effort it would take to find out how OSA Still gets flight and hotel info, but just wanted to make you areaware that as of January this year, penalties and fines are now steeper, including possible jail time, and the rules and regulations have more strict interpretations and teeth. There is no doubt that one or multiple statutes were violated. They would have to explain how they got this info on the very same day. Here’s a link to the possibly relevant statutes:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0800-0899/0817/Sections/0817.568.html
“We cannot answer ambiguous charges.” Funny, after one of the Narconon lawsuits they complained that the 20-page complaint was “too long” for them to read and should be dismissed (the judge disagreed).
“How do you accuse someone of wrongdoing, stridently claim that this is the case, and then say “so you need to tell me what you did that was wrong.”
Does “what are your crimes” sound familiar?
There is, at least (in theory) an outside possibility the proverbial ‘Streisand Effect’ will soon be renamed the ‘Scientology Effect’ (circa 2015). As It seems (at least probable) another few hundred thousand wogs (if not a million or more) will now be viewing that HBO documentary exposing Scientology for what it is, courtesy of Mr. Miscavige himself. So to speak.
Insanity is an interesting thing to observe. By some accounts Mr. Hubbard also went insane in the later years of his life. Not to suggest Mr. Miscavige is in the later years of his life, merely to point out insanity is, in fact, an interesting thing to observe (or ‘to behold’, put in a more spiritual parlance).
If I recall correctly, somewhere in Mr. Hubbard’s doctrine is the theory that ‘a criminal wants to be caught’. And if that is true, David Miscavige is a living testament to accuracy of Mr. Hubbard’s theory. Evidenced by the footbulletry (beyond all human comprehension) perpetuated by David upon himself (and his church) on a fairly predictable and regular schedule.
On a lighter note, an investment in popcorn might prove to be prudent in the coming days.
Jake
David Miscavige is the ecclesiastical leader of the Scientology Religion!
He is a high-powered Global Executive who is getting things done on a via over a long distance comm line!
He’s petulant.
And he’s having a frenzy.
A petulant frenzy!
Behold the Sphere of Influence of the Greatest Scientology OT on Earth.
What got done here?
Absolutely nothing but an even bigger clusterfuck than it was before.
This is the guy who Tom Cruise looks up to?
I’m sorry but I have to say it:
If Scientology worked, this would not be happening.
Alanzo
Nice Zappa quote. Probably the whole verse that’s from can be about Slappy, possibly referring to Debbie Cook’s letter:
“He called her a sl*t, a pig, and a whore,
A b*tch, and a c*nt, and he slammed the door
In a petulent frenzy!”
He slipped on his s**t as he fell to the floor, but who gives a f**k as he’s just such a bore.
TC to DM: We’re lucky to have you.
MM: Look what happens when you rely on luck.
It is obvious Miscavige is writing the letters. He is out of present time and stuck in an incident of long duration. He is Type III. Poor guy does not even know it. No one cares about what he says – really, no one but the koolaide drinking clubbed seals that have to be right about sacrificing their lives, money, careers, families to be in the Cult of Scientology. That is who Miscavige writes it for anyway!
Funny how EVERYONE that leaves Scientology and speaks the truth is a bitter defrocked apostate.
No one is going to read what Miscavige writes because WOGS don’t care.
They WILL, however, watch the HBO program about “Going Clear” and the results will be that WOGS will STAY CLEAR of anything Scientology or Dianetics or L Ron Hubbard!
That is the truth! Misavige destroyed Scientology forever. He just can’t face the truth!
Stick a fork in it – Scientology is DONE!
Idle, it also interests me how we are called bitter and defrocked while we make lighthearted jokes and live peaceful sunshine filled lives yet the person using that term hides behind phalanxes of lawyers and attacks those of us who dare flourish with bile and vitriol.
“Interestingly, we know what HE is afraid of. Cameras. Reporters. Depositions. Lawsuits. The general public. “Unemployed bitter defrocked apostates on the fringes of the internet.” Martians. Germs. Luggage with wheels. Sharp pencils.”
That is funny!! Thanks you so much, I needed a good laugh today LOL
Hey Michael Cox sharp pencils are nothing to be laughed at. When I was six, I was running with one and tripped and it stabbed me in the thigh and (mumble mumble) years later, I stlill have a piece of lead embedded in my thigh. True story.
Consider the fact that today’s pencils no longer come to a sharp point, they are completely flat. I must not be the only person who was in a “serious pencil lead accident.” I’m glad OSHA was in top of that one. 😉
Karin Pouw, Sir! Why does David Miscavige hide behind you? He must be very busy… SCOHB.
“We will be in New York next week to meet.”
Now that we know the release date has been set and there is absolutely no way you will ever be able to make it to a meeting with us in time for anything we say to go on the record, let’s meet in — oh yeah, New York, because you’ll be in Park City premiering your movie at that time. We will se the dates and time and YOU WILL COMPLY.
Because that’s how documentaries are made. At least by Korean dictators. I wonder if David Miscavige is jealous of the power of Kim Jong Un to get the movie about him slowed down when all David Miscavige’s teeny fist waving is doing is making the steamroller move faster.
Dave: How do you do it?
Kim: You need to bring out the guns.
Dave: But I’ve already got the best lawyers.
Kim: Not those kind of guns.
I really liked your critique of the letters. Your experience as the former spokes person for the church is invaluable I am looking forward to the HBO documentary.
Me too.
DM: “I am Darth Miscavige – I can kill you all with a simple thought”
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“Damn – well that didn’t work – I better write them a few letters instead – maybe they will die when they read them”.
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Reply:
“Yes, Darth Miscavige we are all rolling around on the floor dying. Of laughter”.
Hey Shelley, you’re back! Oh, my bad – wrong one. I was about to cut Dave some slack.
Hey, if you are the Michael Mallen who was on the RPF at ASHO/AO circa ¨99-2002, I was living in LA with Josh Hanna and his girlfriend at the time. He ALWAYS had good things to say about you and your musical talent. Even if you are a different Michael…I´m glad that you got out of the shit and wish you the best! Mark Foster (markfretless@gmail.com)
“Both depositions, under oath, contain incontrovertible evidence about the bias of your sources, not to mention their monetary incentives, which in accordance with journalistic standards you must disclose to viewers and film critics.”
Wow. Just wow. I certainly hope the contents of this letter were revealed to your attorney immediately if not sooner. I would be interested in seeing the Court filing given to the Judge regarding the abuse of the discovery process.
If an attorney or attorneys are not sanctioned, hopefully disbarred for the abuse of the discovery process after that startling revelation, someone is not doing their job.
Great catch.
THAT is what happens when someone with the emotional maturity of a two-year-old is the “ecclesiastical leader” of a “church”.
Hey Monique E. Yingling Cleanup in Aisle COB!
Bubbledweller! ROFL A new word coined which precisely describes those who know but refuse to Know.
A nice rundown of the letters, Mike. And knowing that Pope Tiny Tim is the real author, we know just how frightened he really is of being nailed to his self created cross.
Hey Mike, I think Dainty Dave the Imperial Midget might be PTS to you.
Hey Miss Cabbage…you sound like you need to report to HCO for an ethics handling.
Then please report to wardrobe for a retrofit on your new too-blonde, stretched and lifted carrot look. We’ll get you a new shiny Italian suit and a gold pinkie ring that says “I KNOW I’M THE MAN.”
Dave’s PTS to all of us. Get it?
lol 😀
“As stated in no fewer than ten letters…”
Oh for gosh sakes, just say how many letters. Can’t they just say something directly? A simple thing like a number. Just say it. Maddening.
Was it 11, or 8 billion? “No fewer than…” is not helpful, and destroys any credibility of the statement.
If 10 is a good number to not be fewer than, then isn’t 13, for example, something to crow about? So say 13.
It’s quite insane.
“No few than…” appears in every Miscavige/Sherman speech. He loves saying that.
Derp. “no fewer than…”
It’s stupid.
Me thinks the leader of the cult protestith too much. WAY, WAY too much. Me thinks the leader of the cult is scared shitness. Ok, ok, I’ll stop with the guessing games. I guess the leader of the cult is a true sociopath. It’s woven into his nasty DNA
And he’s the weaver, or the weevil.
Oh I’m getting sooooo mad at you that my forehead is going to split open and a beam of electronic fire will melt you and all other apostates into a green goo. Why don’t you put that beam up where it will do some good Davey.
Oh my that’s what I get reading between the lines.
Aren’t these Karin/Dave letters stalking? Pretty creepy. Dave cease and desist and go back and drink your scotch. You no longer strike fear and haven’t for a long time.
Those letters sound very hateful and extremely bitter…
Why do I suddenly wish the Vatican had hired Miscavige to handle their PR?
Regardless of the subject matter, the tone of these letters is completely unprofessional and only brings disrespect to the organisation that wrote them. I would have a low opinion of any “professional” entity that used such a tone. Another footbullet here.
Agreed. This is Captain Miscavige’s idea of how “important people” act. He lives in a bubble of sycophants — he has probably read these letters out to his minions a few times so they understand “how you are supposed to do it.”
Yeah, these letters read like they’re written by a guy who’s used to having people give Him a snappy salute and a “Yes SIR!” upon His every utterance. And He sounds completely frustrated at His own impotence, stamping His little feet and demanding compliance. Miscavige is one sorry little guy.
Miscavige sounds like he’s a mafia boss.
His opinion leader is Tony Montana.
A mafia boss would not be that stupid…
I’m guessing Scientology holds the record for number of bitter, defrocked apostates. One of you math whizzes should calculate the real number of Scientologists to those that are declared. What percentage would that be?
5 declared to 1 bubbledweller would be my guess…
So 80% that are out are SPs? Hmm, seems like it should be the other way around. I guess Dave’s got a hidden data line. No, wait, that violates policy. Heber, can you help us out here? No, wait, he’s an SP. Geez, can someone please explain the math? It’s unlike anything I ever studied in school.
Really well done, Mike. I’m guessing this must be a little maddening for you, but I hope it’s kinda fun at the same time.
Dave genuinely seems to be coming unglued over this. You can practically feel his blood pressure rising from one “Karin Pouw” letter to the next. After a while, he starts sounding like a middle-school Mean Girl throwing a tantrum because NOBODY will do what she wants.
What I genuinely do not understand, though, is what he is trying to achieve with all of this. What good would it do him to send a bunch of lawyers and lackeys to a face-to-face meeting with Gibney and HBO? For that matter, what is the full-page ad supposed to accomplish? Is this his idea of “punishing” Gibney for disobeying him?
Richard — I think you hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. Captain Miscavige just cannot stand it when anyone does not do exactly what he wants….
2015 is going to be rough on him then because there is going to be a lot of that. 🙂
Many times in reading the church’s letters, I thought of what Mike said about the church just preaching to its parishioners. I think that’s what some of this is about. It’s about what the parishioners are going to be shown when they start asking questions or “accidentally” hear about the documentary.
Miscavige has no chance of winning a logics arguments with the outside world.
The Shit Scientology Says – love it.
What is all the drama about Facebook/Twitter friends? Geez, they are stupid.
I follow the CIA and the FBI, that doesn’t make me a secret agent you dumb fucks. Eventually Dave, you’ll have to have both feet amputated from all the foot-bullets.
Also, I’m getting tired of telling you this Dave: Pull your skirt down, your obsession with Mike and Marty is showing again.
It’s really like reading the words of a teenager. They think they know everything, but everything they say reveals their ignorance and bias. Great entry; those letters are hilarious!
And Karen Pouw is not even writing those letters. She can’t cuz she is in the Hole. Again, it is the little man behind the curtain at Oz.
People like me are unqualified to comment, according to Scientology, because I’ve never experienced it first-hand. People like Mike are unqualified to comment, according to Scientology, because he’s a bitter apostate. That leaves only active Scientologists qualified to comment on Scientology. It’s only logical.
Wow, never thought of it that way. You are right. Going to close down the blog and retire….
Imagine the pressure put onto the few genuine celebs they have (K. A.-T. C.-J. T. & his beard) to show at Sundance and make a ‘Jenny Linson et al.’ disturbance. I am positive these deserving louts are being squeezed directly by D.M.
Mike, you are so funny, so very brilliant and so very RIGHT!
Oh, please god, let them make total fools of themselves by trying to defend their horrible cherch…
Think of the pure lulz… The flurry of footbullets… The mounds of popcorn…
An active Scientologist can never speak up. Nor would they. If an active Scientologist does speak up they are terrorized and excommunicated thereby making them an Ex Scientologist.
Rod you are either lacking info or an active Scientologist. If you are an active Scientologist please search the internet. That is if you have the courage to be true to your ability to find the truth for yourself.
Brian, I think Rod was being sarcastic, a little tongue’n cheek so to speak…
Well, I first met MIke at the Fort Harrison, so that may help determine if I’m a Scientologist. 🙂
Sorry Rod 😉