One of the saddest lessons of history is this:
If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.
We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth.
The bamboozle has captured us.
It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken.
Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.
Carl Sagan
This seems to be an appropriate quote to sum up the state of these “OT Ambassadors.” While many OT Committees now send out their “minutes” hard copy to try and avoid them falling into the hands of the small handful of unemployed bitter defrocked apostates on the fringes of the internet, some of them are still doing it the new fashioned way.
This is a selection of some of those that have come in. Many now say virtually NOTHING in the interests of “security.” It is funny how they cut their reach in order to prevent the activities of their PUBLIC from being “found out.”
Let’s start with some minutes from CC Int. Honestly, their explanations and justifications for “Why Valley” have become incredibly strained. I wonder if any of them realize that they are telling themselves that VALLEY will “service many industry professionals*” when that is the ONLY job that CC has? And they are just a few miles down the 101.
*Unless of course they are referring to the only real industry in the Valley — porn.
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014
From: CC Int OT Committee <ohtee@earthlink.net>
Subject: CCI OTC Meeting Highlights & Announcements
CCI OTC MEETING HIGHLIGHTS & ANNOUNCEMENTS
At this week’s meeting, the group re-read the section of the new OT Ambassador program regarding Ideal Orgs and discussed where Valley Org is in regard to the steps on the program. All that is needed from the field for Valley is to complete the fundraising for renovations!
The Public Officer CCI briefed the group on the importance of Valley going Ideal. Valley Org will service many industry professionals and in that regard will help bring public into CCI. It will also provide a service org that is in alignment with the Golden Age of Tech II and the boom that all the on Source services are creating.
Afterward the group discussed ways to assist the efforts of Valley and concluded:
1. There will be a dinner/event every Friday through the summer into the fall. We will continue to contact people via call-in and promote these events on our comm lines to get more people to them. At these events, attendees will be shown the exact plans for Valley and enlightened on the importance of getting this org Ideal.
2. The group is working on contacting young families to get them briefed about Valley. This org is a particular boon to families with children as it will provide child care and services for children while the parents get auditing & training! This is a very wanted thing among young families.
3. The group will come up with ways to contribute to Valley OTC fundraisers including supporting their C-Note Sundays, raising funds with give-aways on-line and helping with large events. We are going to offer to run a silent auction at their next event.
The Pub Off also briefed us on performers and speakers lined up for Gala. It will be an outstanding night! We made plans to have at least one OTC table.
THIS WEEK’S OTC EVENTS & PROJECTS:
IDEAL ORG DINNER: There is an Ideal Org dinner event at the home of Bonita and David Wilson this Friday night at 6 pm. All are welcome and all are asked to spread the word and help confirm.
CAUSE RESURGENCE EVENT: Sunny Jensen is speaking at an event about Cause Resurgence this Friday from 6 to 7 pm in the Theater. Dinner will be served so people on course can attend.
CONDITIONS CLUB: Joyce Wallace has re-launched her extremely popular Conditions Club! This is an excellent event to send new people and recoveries to. Conditions Club meets Sunday at 6:30 pm in Room 401.
JOIN US EACH WEEK ON TUESDAY AT 7:00PM IN THE RENAISSANCE RESTAURANT! BE PART OF A FUN GROUP AND HELP US ACHIEVE THE AIMS OF SCIENTOLOGY!
Here is some hot news from Tampa:
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014
From: Jill Hagan <jillhagan@aol.com>
Subject: Tampa OT Committee Meeting Minutes – 22 July 2014
Tampa OT Committee Meeting Minutes
22 July 2014
Jill welcomed us all to the Tampa OT Committee meeting! And so nice to see Bob and Nancy Forest!!
Membership:
Lynette Barry reported that she has a new membership form put together and will be sending it in for IA approval.
GAT II:
Esmeralda Arauz will be sending out an e-mail to record GAT II progress Up the Bridge, so please look for and answer her e-mail.Book Selling:
PES Day Rick Furbish reported that last week Friday Night Alive! brought in 16 people and kicked off the week as a result of that outflow – So come out this Friday!!
Plant City Home Show 10-5, Friday, Saturday and Sunday in Plant City
Introduce new people to Scientology in the comfort of the Plant City LIC with Mike Hoy any Saturday afternoon in Plant City. 7 books were sold last weekend!
Aug 1-3 Comic Con at Tampa Convention Center. Whoo hoo!
IAS:Tampa Org’s target is being met, but still a little to go – so keep the flows coming!!!
4-D Campaigns:Marlin Anderson recruited 5 new volunteers from the Sunday OSA event at Flag.
Saturday Aug 9 BACK – TO – SCHOOL Bash for the Tampa area. This was a lot of fun last year. I/C and volunteers needed. If you have ever said that you would help Marlin, this is when he really needs someone,
Volunteers needed to hand out TWTH booklets with Mike Cardin this Sunday 9-11 am. Everyone who participates has WINS doing it. District #3 is almost completed! That is about 1/3 of all Tampa!!
Marlin is discovering more and more the effects of TWTH: It is now being used at Peak Academy. The Principal gives a book to all the new students. If a child gets in trouble – he/she watches a precept. One boy with anger issues watched the indicated precept and came out saying, “I realize that I looked at this all wrong” and has never been a problem since. TWTH makes a difference!!
We will be labeling TWTH booklets at the next meeting. Remember doing that for the Repulican Nat’l Convention a couple of years ago?
This Sunday 10 – 6:30 at Fort Harrison Auditorium: The Way To Happiness Seminar; Joy, Satisfaction, Happiness, Purpose. This is the seminar to put it all within your reach. $125.00
Upcoming Events:
Tuesday July 29 and every other Tuesday 7-8 pm. Vicki Crocker will put on workshop for new people, especially business owners: How To Boom Business. This is open to all – to Ybor business owners. $5.00 and includes VM booklet on Survey and Promotion.
Wednesday WISE 6-7 pm. Topic: DeBug Tech – Rich Byrd and his crew
Wednesday Night Lecture Series is back!! Aug 6 Mike Fine will speak on “What is Real love composed of?” Come find out what LRH says. $10.00. Proceeds will go to Miami Ideal Org. Help out with Call-in and promo needed. More info will follow, but please promote this to all you know. Wed night lectures are short, full of data, and FUN! If you were around when we did this before at the Habana Org, this is what we want to create again. If you were not, then you are in for a treat!
Reshowing of IAS MV event:
7 pm Friday
1 pm Sat and Sunday
in Div 6-C, the Chapel and HGC
Birthday Game:
#3 this week and #10 cumulative. This week looks promising with 2 Clears made and highest ever SRD co-audit hours.
End with LRH quote.
Minutes by Deborah Otto
This, let us not forget is the MODEL Ideal Org and St Hill Size Org and is a remora that exists only because Flag has so many rejects they will not service and scientologists have kids that want to get out of their hair. 7 books sold qualifies for an exclam. Exclam!
And here we have the newest Pasadena OT Committee stats and breakdowns. For an Ideal Org, this isn’t much activity. And they don’t have many people on their OT Committee — active or inactive.
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014
From: Joel Morris <joelm@citycent.com>
Subject: [OTC-Mail] Pasadena OTC – Weekly Statistics – WE 28 July 2014
Weekly OT Committee Statistics
Report Form 2014-2015
Stat form for _____Pasadena___ OT Committee
For W/Eing____28 July 2014_______
Stat # 1: __7___ TOTAL NUMBER OF BRIDGE STEPS TAKEN this week. (This includes all starts on a paid service, training and processing, at a Mission or Org.)
Name Service Org OTC Member
Kathy Oliver Cause Resurgence R/D FSO Caroline Veach
Dave Short Student Hat ASHO F Chris Wrightsman
Jim Owen Financial Prosperity Pasadena Jim Owen
Connie Penner SRD ASHO F Connie Penner
Lissa Dale OT Preps AOLA Kevin Dale
Cheryl Schwalbe Problems of Work Pasadena Cheryl Schwalbe
Helen Kizler OT II AOLA Lisa Terrenzi
Stat # 2: US$___0___ Amount of funds raised for Org Buildings or Renovations in US$. (Must be invoiced by the org, not pledged amounts.)
Stat # 3: ___160.75___ Number of OT Committee Volunteer Hours. (These include hours spent on production by OT Committee Members or OT Committee Volunteers on OTC projects or posts.)
Total Hours Spent Projects or Post Org OTC Member
1.5 FSMing Caroline Veach
1 Dissemination Tom Pula
3 OTC Exec hat Chris Wrightsman
1 Dissemination Craig Jensen
.5 FSMing FSO Ellen Dorsett
3 CF Project Robert Aster
1 Recovery Project Robert Aster
1 Criminon Jim Owen
.5 Comm Sec Jim Owen
4.5 Org Project Shelley Beckmann
3 Criminon Diane Boito
2 Criminon Charles Boito
1 Criminon David Lantz
5 Criminon Barbara Kalergis
3 WISE Kevin Burke
1 WUS Files I/C Nancy Reitze
1.5 Central West OTA I/C Nancy Reitze
7 Criminon Nancy Reitze
3 FSMing Kevin Dale
.5 Flood the Org Karen Morrissett
10.25 DSA Project Peter Alexandre
2 Bookselling Garrison Clarke
1.5 Criminon Pam Weissman
4 Treasurer Cheryl Schwalbe
4 VM Project Ava Wrightsman
3 Dissemination / FSMing Ava Wrightsman
3 FSMing Trish Quigley
1 S Pac OTA Reg I/C Trish Quigley
1 FSMing Cheryl D’Arezzo
3 Stats I/C Joel Morris
2 Criminon Lucy Cole
1.5 CF Project Lucy Cole
6 WISE Danny Chadwell
1 Criminon Bob Pace
1 TWTH Project Bob Pace
1.75 CF Project John Glass
2 CCHR John Glass
2 CF Project I/C Dot Harvey
3 Flood the Org Andrea Wyszynski
1 OTC Exec hat Gail Carroll
1 Drug Free Project Bob Carroll
2 FSMing ASHO F Nikki Magnie
1 WACS Project Nikki Magnie
4 Criminon Kylie Pearce
.5 Criminon Mary Duran
2 Criminon Cathy Morfopoulos
8 Criminon Elaine Fayton
7 Moving Clears/OTs Lisa Terrenzi
3 Criminon Jodie Bohte
2.5 Moving Clears/OTs FSO Mary Heldt
.75 Flood the Org Tina Phillips
1 Moving Clears/OTs Marie Pula
2 TWTH Project Janet Hedge
.5 Activation I/C Neal Sobol
5 Criminon Yael Lir
1 FSMing Pearl Lantz
.5 TWTH Project Pearl Lantz
1 TWTH Project Todd Fifield
.25 Bookselling Mark Loring
2.5 Criminon Brooke Owen
.5 Flood the Org Brooke Owen
.5 Drug Free Project Randy Ferman
.5 Scouting Project Randy Ferman
3.5 Bookselling Randy Ferman
1 FSMing Sandee Ferman
1 WACS Project Sandee Ferman
2.5 Moving Clears/OTs FSO Henning Heldt
4.75 Flood the Org Bob Flanagan
.25 Dir RAP Bob Flanagan
.25 FSMing FSO Susan Flanagan
2.5 Drug Free Project Trissie Badger
Stat # 4: __5,000___ Funds Raised for the IAS in US$.
Yael Lir – $5,000
Stat # 5: ___57___ Number of Active OT Committee Members this week. (Definition: An Active OT Ambassador or Active OT Committee Member is defined as someone who has contributed to the OT Ambassador Program or Projects this week.)
OT Members Names Active?
Aster, Robert Active
Alexandre, Peter Active
Bohte, Jodie Active
Badger, Trissie Active
Boito, Diane Active
Beckmann, Shelley Active
Burke, Kevin Active
Bezazian, Harold
Burke, Kim
Boito, Charles Active
Carroll, Bob Active
Bristol, George
Carroll, Gail Active
Carroll, Julie
Clarke, Garrison Active
Chadwell, Danny Active
Cole, Lucy Active
Falkow, Sally
Cole, Rosser
Fifield, Todd Active
Curry, Jaye
Gates, Steve
Curry, Scott
Hansen, Maxine
Dale, Kevin Active
Hedge, Janet Active
D’Arezzo, Cheryl Active
Hodge, Charlie
D’Arezzo, Jim
Hunter, Lisa
Dorsett, Ellen Active
Imhoff, Lauren
Duran, Mary Active
Jayasinghe, Aesha
Fayton, Elaine Active
Johnstone, Steve
Ferman, Randy Active
Langenfeld, Jerry
Ferman, Sandee Active
Lantz, David Active
Flanagan, Bob Active
Larocca, John
Flanagan, Susan Active
Larocca, Norma
Glass, John Active
Loring, Mark Active
Gluck, Larry
Magnie, Nikki Active
Gluck, Sheila
Morris, Joel Active
Harvey, Dot Active
Pace, Bob Active
Heldt, Henning Active
Penner, Connie Active
Heldt, Mary Active
Penner, Ron
Imhoff, Gary
Phillips, Joel
Jensen, Craig Active
Reinhart, Ron
Jonic, George
Schmiedeke, Leah
Kalergis, Barbara Active
Severi, Athena
Lantz, Pearl Active
Shapiro, Esther
Lir, Yael Active
Sokoloff, Annie
Malm, Evan Active
Sokoloff, Peter
Morfopoulos, Cathy Active
Swarens, Karla
Morrissett, Karen Active
Tourje, Linda
Owen, Brooke Active
Weissman, Pam Active
Owen, Jim Active
Witty, Abbi
Pearce, Kylie Active
Witty, David
Phillips, Tina Active
Woodruff, Carol
Pula, Marie Active
Pula, Tom Active
Quigley, Trish Active
Reitze, Nancy Active
Schwalbe, Cheryl Active
Sobol, Neal Active
Stein, Art
Swarens, Toni
Terrenzi, Lisa Active
Thomas, Ann
Veach, Caroline Active
Wrightsman, Ava Active
Wrightsman, Chris Active
Wyszynski, Andrea Active
Stat # 6: __0___ Number of Events, Seminars and Briefings held. (These are events that pertain only to the OT Ambassador program and the person reporting must have participated in or held these events, NOT just attending. The I/C of the event is responsible for reporting the event.)
And then the latest Pasadena OTC Quarterly Report….
From: Aster8 <Aster8@outlook.com>
To: otcmail@pasaotc.org
Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 08:59:20
Subject: [OTC-Mail] How well did you do?
The OT committee prepares quarterly reports on our production which go up the lines to Int. Management. The last report was for March, April and May. Here is a summary of your production as an OTC on GAT phase II and on the Golden Age of Knowledge courses. (Note: In order to collect this data I rely on your weekly OTC reports and upon completion logs that are maintained by the Pasadena Org.)
In general, we have been very productive as an OTC. Very well done! Here is a summary of the report:
* Actions taken to help Scientologists in your field to fully avail themselves of the Golden Age of Tech Phase II training and processing.
The most effective enlightenment actions have been showings of the event where GAT II was released, and wins expressed by course graduates. Pasadena had 38 GAT II completions between February 27 and May 29, 2014. The OTC produced 39 GAT II starts in this time period, by either routing onto service or by helping others get started. Out of these starts, 18 went to the Pasadena Organization, and 21 additional starts went to other organizations.
* Helping Scientologists in your field onto and through the Basics Books and Lectures to get ready for Golden Age of Tech Phase II.
The Pasadena OTC has conducted a steady campaign of contacting Pasadena public through emails, letters, and direct contacts. This has contributed to 77 GAK course completions at Pasadena in the last 3 months (32 GAK course completions at Pasadena were by OTC members). The OTC produced 39 GAK training starts to Pasadena (either by routing onto service or by helping others get started), plus 7 additional starts at other organizations.
One more individual completed the full lineup of Basic books and lectures. The Pasadena Organization now has 58 people who have completed the full Basics lineup. Furthermore, 9 ACC courses were completed by OTC members in this period.
Bob Aster
Wow, these are some stats.
The Pasadena IDEAL org managed to completed 38 people on ANY GAG II service in 3 MONTHS. 13 completions a MONTH!
And in total, since 2007 and the release of the “Basics” this IDEAL ORG has managed to get 58 people through the “full Basics line up.”
AND they have less than 100 OTC Members (many less if you only count the “active” ones) though it is interesting to note how many ex-SO and ex-GO are on their list (probably because Executive Software employed so many of them, Craig Jensen was the DG Legal US at one point).
All this for a mere $20 million investment.
The only consolation here is that this is a better return on your money than giving it to the IAS. They don’t even produce these sort of feeble results.
Hallie Jane says
So almost half of the comps are OTC members in Pasadena. That says to me that these die hards are most of the people doing services, many older OTs, who have no business being on the how to fund raise course. They really are on life support. I like the walk of shame too, instead of a big “NOT ACTIVE” they just leave it blank but the poor creatures KNOW they are in the shitter. The comment that the most successful actions were playing the gag2 release struck me also. They are so deluding themselves thinking that gag2 doesn’t have any correlation to the fact that the org is empty. Here’s some math for you otc’ers: Gag2 + insane “leadership” + rampant declares of special persons (aka people who speak) + domino effect disconnection = EMPTY ORGS.
Dan Locke says
Key stats not reported here, but that are certainly sky-rocketing…
#hours spent by OTC members thinking “WTF???” and thinking VERY disaffected thoughts, wondering how they are going to survive another OTC meeting with any of their remaining sanity even partially intact.
#tears spilled by former active Scientologists from better days* when considering that “it’s all come to THIS???” (I know it’s NEVER been perfect and there was always some chicanery going on, but I still feel there were — relatively speaking — some “good old days” when there was more attention on delivery than just income and buildings. When Paid Completions was the most important stat… before ’78 certainly.)
Foolproof says
Yes Dan, I you and nearly all of us commenting on Mike’s site have spilled quite a few tears and yes, you are correct in stating about the good old days – they did exist. Things could be eventually corrected at least, as well and auditors were made and PC audited. No more now. But we are doing “our bit” here at least in trying to recover it from the ravages of this insane management and the bought and paid for cohorts. I wonder how long the OSA agents and not-so-heavy Kool Aid drinkers “under the radar” having to read these blogs survive on staff and in the Church? I expect the attrition rate is quite high and so we are doing something at least. The Debbie Cook email was apparently a very successful action in waking people up as is this site I believe.
Another Thought says
Their time expenditures might mean that the members are actually up to their ears or more in debt and are working a lot of overtime to meet it. The way it worked in our org was the committee would meet for one session a week and then often come back in to call for event confirms. They’d be regularly regged at their home and tried to avoid that by disappearing to go out with kids and such.
Staff was no picnic, but there was also hell to pay as OTC members.
Foolproof says
I found the listing of OTC members time spent on various activities (like 0.5 hours etc.) so laughable as to be almost pitiable. It probably took more than half an hour to compile these ridiculous statistics. Next it will be “I thought about helping for 10 minutes or so but had a coffee and went home (when I saw an IAS Reg in reception)”. Still I suppose if one has the statistic of “number of square feet available” (in which we can enturbulate, browbeat and reg the ass off our public for our out-tech services) is the new “WDAHs” and Major Course Completions then anything goes these days, does it not?
Foolproof says
What Martin Padfield says above about trying to stamp out “personality” is one of the most disturbing things about the “new” Animal-Farm Scientology.This is so anti (real) Scientology as to be almost unbelievable but this is definitely only one of the cases of “the blind leading the blind” here as one “top” executive states this somewhere along the line and the next one down the chain hears it and promulgates it etc. etc. in exactly the same vein as verbal tech, so that they are with “Command Intention” and personality is stamped out – can’t have independent thinking can we? Scientologists I know would never ever think or behave like this – quite the opposite. On the other hand total weird and insane DM-oriented idiosyncrasy which seems to have taken hold in the Church now would also be regarded as completely off-the-wall. The classic DM phrase of “SRA” is a perfect example – it is not LRH but a pure squirrel “management tool” from the many invented by DM and one can just as easily ask if Kingsley Wimbush’s Dee-Dinging was squirrel why is the use of “SRA” not regarded in the same vein? Because seemingly no one thinks critically and spots outpoints anymore (er, the Data Series!)
Staff moonlighting was another activity “frowned upon” by management and virtually disallowed from the 1980s onwards which stripped the Orgs of competent staff AND YET LRH COVERED THIS IN POLICY AS TO HOW IT SHOULD OPERATE AND BE MANAGED! But DM basically muttered something on this and the management lemmings followed this up by booting off all staff who were moonlighting and crashed the Orgs where this was done (a large percentage) worldwide. (Many of these ex-staff booted out will now be OTC Members.)
As to the OTCs they are simply just a club for Scientologists (sic) who want to avoid going into the Org and being regged (understandably) and a covert way of obtaining non-paid staff and blackmailing and enforcing people to “contribute” – but whatever happened to the use of HCOB “WHAT WE EXPECT OF A SCIENTOLOGIST”?, which explains and gives the modus operandi for all Scientologists to be able to contribute without being made to feel guilty that they are not doing more? Saying that who in their right minds would want to contribute to the current Church?
Hiatus57 says
Shouldn’t this read (sick) ( not sic)
LOL
Aquamarine says
The OTC is posted in Div 6. Offhand I can’t recall if its in Dept 16, 17, or 18, but some Div 6 staff member in one of these Depts oversees the OTC.
That said, it appears that the OTCs are now being charged with recovering Div 6 people, getting Div 6 public already on lines onto their next service, getting new raw public onto an Intro service, selling Dianetics books, and getting Div 6 public already on lines onto their next service or shunted to Div 2.
OTCs also have stats for recovering Div 2 public, and for regging already-on-lines Div 2 people for their next service.
The major function of Div 6 is expanding the field with new raw public and pushing them thru and onto Div 2’s lines.
The major function of Div 2 is keeping Div 2 public moving on the Bridge thru the highest services that Class V orgs deliver, and then pushing them off to the Advanced Orgs.
To continue, from the OTC stats listed in these and other leaked emails, it would appear that all of these vital org hats are now being done by the OTCs.
Now, if there are no people posted in Div 6 and/or Div 2, then, of course, it makes sense for the OTCs to get hat-dumped this way, but if there are staff in these Divisions, what are they doing on their post time?
1984 says
Aquamarine, I think that you just hit on to the beauty of the ‘ideal org’. All automated, with no staff to service or pay.
Of course, the OTC still has to be replaced by dispersed ATM machines.
Do the IAS membership cards have PIN numbers yet? Or imbedded chips?
Ken says
If there are any staff Div. 2 / Div. 6 (which I wouldn’t wish on satin himself) they are busily fundraising, stat pushing, rapeing underage boys in a bathroom at the FH, etcetera.
They are truly “busy” !!!!!!!
Aquamarine says
Thank you, 1984 and Ken. I am fully handled on this question 🙂
Martin Padfield says
Some brilliant comments today. It occurred to me that the sharpest, quickest and definitely wittiest minds all left the cult. I suppose that’s not surprising when you consider it’s nigh on impossible to be any of those things when you are engaged on the most “deadly serious activity” in the Cosmos. I remember well once when Andre Tabayoyon was briefing the Int RPF about how there was a “personality” creeping into the RPF. (Gasp!). Yes, it was a crime to have any character or personality, let alone actually crack a joke or two. I was sent on a lap around that time for being “too English”. True story.
Zephyr says
MP,
Yes -sigh – I established my ‘personality’ by running laps a whole night long during one of the many, many
allnighters. It seemed more prosurvival and I stick to that still being the case.
Greta
Snoopy's Uncle says
Yeah. Mike very often uses the word “delusion”. Somehow it may be that the first delusion was that it (this cleared planet and expansion and other golden calves) could be achieved via overwhelming control instead of overwhelming popularity and creativity and will by people themselves. Today all popularity belongs to Dave “Dildo” Miscavige (thank you Cooper), all “creativity” belongs to Dildo Miscavige and all will is Dildo Miscavige. So what is left for others – self-stimulation in valence of the Big Dildo to pretend there is no overwhelming control. Reminds me of one science-fiction story where mankind built somewhere around the ocean abyss a big vagina and a big penis which were copulating endlessly while broadcasting male and female signals and every human got, at the age of 16, a receiver. And then one girl and one boy somehow refused to “enjoy” life the same way as others and preferred being together, taking walks in the park and finally became man and woman. And were killed by the mob for being different only to, a few years later, get a monument built for them saying: “To the inventors of love – happy mankind…” These OTs still have their receivers tuned high at the frequency of DDM…
Out4Long says
“If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. ”
Clemens wrote of a similar axiom a bit more succinctly. “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
That being said, the list of OT Comm members are mostly made up of Boomer aged, LONG time Kool Aid drinkers. Median age ~65 years old. If nothing else happens, the church will lose most of its “parishioners” due to old age in the next decade or so…
Mike Rinder says
Very good point.
Almost everyone in every OT Committee anywhere is a relic. They are all that’s left inside the bubble (and their children).
The church of scientology is dying of old age.
w. martin says
I hope your kids get out before they get any older.
Jens TINGLEFF says
“All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies” John Arbuthnot
thegman77 says
“The group is working on contacting young families to get them briefed about Valley. This org is a particular boon to families with children as it will provide child care and services for children while the parents get auditing & training! This is a very wanted thing among young families.”
Name two.
This series makes me think of a game of musical chairs, where the chairs have been put down in a haphazard manner all over the room and the players have to guess which one *might* be vacant when the music stops. Sorry, dudes, the message here is that when it finally stops, no “chair” will any longer be safe or valuable.
thegman77 says
I would also warn those involved that providing “child care and services for children”
has never been to the benefit of the children, nor was it ever intended as such.
McCarran says
No, the church does not have very good stats as far as taking care of children.
Also, watch out if Bohemian Rhapsody is playing.
Cooper Kessel says
And what young family has a chinamans chance in hell of ever affording a cult activity inside or outside of a Morgue? (No slight here intended on any Chinaman anywhere – just using the expression)
And the last thing you want to do is leave your child unattended with staff …………. you will return to find that they have just been coerced into signing a billion year contract or donating their Barbie Doll to the IAS!
Roy Macgregor says
Wow that Pasadena report was very revealing.
I imagine that Joel Morris is going to be spending a lot of quality time in the Condition’s Club after sending all that info out. He has not yet learning that everything that the OT Committee does is top secret and should not be revealed to anyone- especially not the OT Committee members themselves! Well I guess 6 months of scubbing bathrooms at CC Int will bring it home to him.
Meantime, what a blooper! Craig Jensen donated 1 hour of his precious time so he could be “counted” as an active OT committee member?? Yes is this guy not a multi millionaire with a private jet?? But he was just too busy to do more than 60 minutes? And wasn’t his wife head of the entire WUS OT committee for a long time?
Craig is the perfect example of the modern joke Scientologist. From a background of sleazy/criminal acts he has escaped prosecution and moved on to become wealthy. He now make periodic donations that look huge to the IAS registrars but actually are equal to a single refuel for his private jet and don’t interrupt his lifestyle in any way. When pressured, he spends on hour on his computer watching twerking videos and then reports himself as an “active OT Committee member”.
But at least Craig put in a full 60 minutes to be counted as active – there were a bunch of other people who were counted as “active” on the basis of a 30 minute or even 15 minute weekly dedication to the cause.
What the heck has happened to these people. The Carl Sagen quote is extremely applicable. Twenty of the 57 people did an hour or less of “activity” to be counted as active.
This is just raw evidence that Scientology has dropped down the tube and is flushing. Pasadena is one of the big concentrations of Scientologists. There were tons of them out there. Yet their OT committee members are spending 15 minutes a week to be counted as “active”?
I must say, whoever leaked this report is really doing a public service.
For the many people who have been hurt or injured by Scientology malpractice, it is at least gratifying to see that that activity continues to slide out the bottom. At least there is a little justice.
Mike Rinder says
Excellent observation Roy.
McCarran says
I agree, Roy. Well said.
shelgold says
Regarding Craig Jensen, he sold his software company a few years for mega bucks. Not sure what he does these days to occupy his time, but only contributing 1 hour to “dissemination” sounds like he’s not too happy with the direction of the church.
I noticed that his name is never on the list of donators to valley org.
He put up something like 10 million of the 20+ million for Pasadena org. On Sunday, tony ortega had a flier about a Pasadena reunion with several pictures and neither he nor his wife Sally were in any of them.
Am pretty sure he was the OTC chairman for Pasadena..
This 1 hour of dissem in the first time I’ve seen his name in quite a while.
Out4Long says
shelgold, Craig is convinced that the OT levels are real. That is what has been THE driving factor for him forking over big bucks. His “eligibility” liability (due to being ex B1) to even get on the Ad Courses was HUGE! As long as he believes in the fantasy, the church has his “number” as far as squeezing dono’s from him…
Old Surfer Dude says
Roy, I’m headed up to Pasadena next Saturday. I grew up in that city and go up there every few months. I ALWAYS go by the Idle Morgue. Not only is is quiet as a morgue, the staff seem to change out every 6 months or so. I remember being up there 2011. There were no happy faces on the staff. The receptionist was frowning. No one was coming through the door.
Cooper Kessel says
” What the heck has happened to these people. The Carl Sagen quote is extremely applicable. Twenty of the 57 people did an hour or less of “activity” to be counted as active. ”
Roy, I would venture a guess that most of the bitter defrocked apostate SPs on this site spend more time that that on Mike’s Blog. And we have a lot more fun ……………. at least I do!
Hell I spent just about an hour and a half getting my stat for a new bitter apostate that has yet to be defrocked.
Yo Dave,
I read an interesting quote from LRH today (see I still do my own study but I don’t report it to you losers in the cult). It is from an HCOPL, 22 October 1978R and revised (assume by you) 14 December 2000 and it is titled ‘MISTAKES’. The second god damned line says:
“HE WHO CANNOT BE HATTED WILL NOT LEARN BY MISTAKES”
Now who the hell do you think LRH was referring to here. His obnosis was surely out when he turned the reins over to you for god’s sake. Sheesch!! And when was the last time you tried to hat your sorry ass on anything? Just sayin………….
Zephyr says
Coop,
Hmmm, don’t you get it? DM has ‘THE POWER’ and therefore needs no hatting…
Greta
SILVIA says
CC is promoting a wrong why to get Valley Org done: “reach young couples as the Org provide child care”, implying that the other Orgs are completely empty because they don’t offer this service?
The hours of Pasadena’s OTC’s project: 10.25 for DSA – .25 for FSMing. That shows you the priorities but, is understandable OSA/DSA are ‘overloaded’ with more people leaving and law suits.
Potpie says
All of the above is a testament to how unworkable
the Div 6 video crap really is.
Soon these OTC people are gonna have to sign a
contract.
WhiteStar says
they made 5 new dirty tricksters.
Ken says
I never understood or liked the OT Committee. Always seemed like they are pretending to be staff members, like children pretending to be adults.
Why don’t they join staff? Oh right…$$$ Doh!
They don’t want to audit pcs, or handle students. And they couldn’t manage their way out of a wet paper bag, so they became OTC members.
McCarran says
Well, Ken, it goes like this, “What do you mean you just want to get training and auditing for yourself, to apply in your own life as you see fit!” “Don’t you know! You are either IN or you are OUT!” “In order to prove your love of Command Intention and what he has done for you, you need to give back! We insist you get posted on the OT Committee Org Board or you will have to be sec checked to see what we have missed on your road to total freedom that Command Intention has so painstakingly worked 30 years to give to you.” “You will get posted and you will like it and if you don’t like it, then you need to get sec checked to find out what you have done to create such dislike.”
Parishioner in his head: “What I do to give an apparency of giving back and get this asshole away from me. Oh! I know! I will contribute 3 hours a week to Criminon and write letters to prisoners who aren’t going to harass me.” “Maybe then the MAA will get the fuck off of my back.”
Old Surfer Dude says
“YOU’RE EITHER WITH US OR YOU’RE AGAINST US!!!!!” McCarran, I believe this the code for every cult. No shades of gray. Strictly black & white. “We’ll tell you what you need to know. No need for you to think about it.”
McCarran says
Yes, OSD. You’re right. “No shades of gray. Strictly black & white.” This group has so many shades of black and white it’ll make your head spin.
Old Surfer Dude says
Ken, how many OTCers really don’t want to be there or use some excuse when called not to come in? I mean, are they all heavy duty Kool-Aid drinkers? It seems to me after years and years of fundraising, they would just quietly stay at home.
Lordburg12 says
OSD, you’re right to think that would be the case, and it’s true for many of the formerly active ones that have quietly gone under the radar. However, the peer pressure is quite intense and the leverage used is stuff like “You want to be sure to pass your next eligibility, right? Contributing to the OTC is the least you can do to help your local org.” This is enforced by MAA’s who insist that participation is mandatory. You OWE your help, your time, your money, your kids to the SO and anything else they say.
So suck it up and keep swilling the Kool Aide or we’ll take away your eternity, which we somehow granted to you in the first place.
Any questions? Report to the MAA.
Old Surfer Dude says
Ahhhhhh, Lordburg12. I think I got. Wow it’s so simple and was right in front of my face! BLACKMAIL. The blackest of BLACKMAIL. The “We’ll take your kids and throw them into the SO if you don’t cooperate.” My name for this cult is: The Ministry of Hate!
Thanks, Lordburg12!
McCarran says
Lordburg12 has it down. They may have lightened up about all of this on Refreshers but that would be due solely to the blogs and so many people dropping out because of all the enforcements and pressures. (In other words, it’s no fun any more.) They do eventually learn they are losing clientele/parishioners. I’ve even heard the sec checking is going much easier (whatever the hell that means). Someone told me that the new E-meter is better because the auditor was calling F/N’s more quickly. This person is obviously very stupid about not only the E-Meter and what it can and cannot do, but also F/N’s. (Although, maybe the new E-meter whistles Dixie when 3 swings has been achieved.)
Zephyr says
Ken,
Thanks for providing the ‘today’s great laugh’ with the “they couldn’t manage to get their way out of a wet
paper bag”.
The stats for my affinity for the American language is way up :)!
Greta
theholedoesnotexist says
Wait. A Conditions Club? Is that like RPF for public? Are they that far gone that they complained there was no RPF for them and they felt left out?
The only real industry in the Valley of Scientology is fundraising. I see no evidence of anything else for several years. The plan to reach out and touch “young families” I read as grooming the whales’ third gens. I hope this infers the grandkids are revolting and refusing to get off the evil internetz. A little concerned that the following mention is of a silent auction. Hide your toys and piggie banks, children!
A new membership form should fix the dire problem of the current “boom”. Yeah, that’ll do it. And how do we tell the poor saps who had to man the Comic Con Tampa convention that attendees probably thought they were a parody?
Total Number of Bridge Steps Taken. Because the usual stat categories are so in the toilet, we had to come up with something to keep the ethics dogs at bay.
OT Committe hours: Haven’t seen Criminon mentioned in a long time. Is this a resurrection of the old “write a letter to a prisoner and get a stat to keep the ethics dogs at bay” ploy? Couldn’t help noticing other Ex G), the Heldt’s project of “Moving Clears/OT’s”. Didn’t they join the Bankruptcy Club last year? Are they starting a Moving Company for scientologists who are losing their homes?
This is so much busy work for the same old worn out senior citizens, slowly sinking off into the horizon while “flooding the orgs” for real this time. No really. Any moment now. The only orgs that are flooding are the ones the toilets aren’t functioning due to no funds for maintenance, or the roof has been leaking for 7 months. The end will come not with a boom, but a flush.
Mark Foster says
Or perhaps some farts…
Jose Chung says
Pasadena has to be Bambozzle central command.
Like NorRad with Radar screens tracking incoming public that
never happens because the”Outside ” World has Radar screens of there own that set off alarms of flashing red lights, screaming alarms,scrambling jet interceptors anytime the word Scientology is mentioned.
yvonneschick says
And it is even worse when you look at the quality of the activity. Did you notice how many Pasadena OTC were working on Criminon? This is usually people who are scoring the extension courses being done by prisoners. Let’s them be “active” without having to go into the org which puts them in a danger zone for being regged and does not require any direct interaction with others as it is all done thru the mail. Also the largest single activity stat report was a “DSA project”; probably stalking someone, going thru trash, searching for illegal facebook friends, etc. VM activity in small quantity is usually helping another scn with an assist or some basic tech application from the handbook. Small quantity FSM or dissemination is usually talking with another scn about their plans for their next auditing or training. All in all, the real activity that would result in expanding the org – it isn’t happening.
Carcha says
If anyone were keeping “stats” on people who donate their time to blogs such as this one … um … well … just my WILD GUESS is … oh, never mind … there really isn’t a comparison.
Cooper J Kessel says
I notice that the highest OTC volunteer stat for Pasadena is Peter Alexandre at 10.25 for DSA. I wonder if he is snooping on the other volunteers to accomplish ‘leak repair/damage control’.
Maybe I shouldn’t be so pessimistic. Let’s give Peter the benefit of the doubt. He is probably just helping DSA track down apostates in the field in general. I wonder if they are doing weekly stat review to determine who might be the next in line to disaffect. Must be a wonderful way to spend 1/4 of your work week.
shannon says
The Saga quote seems appropriate…leaving is an incredibly brave thing to do.
KFrancis says
This is how the quote read to me:
One of the saddest lessons of the church is:
Once you’ve been under suppression long enough, you tend to reject any evidence of the suppression.
You’re no longer able to see the source of the evil.
The SP has captured you.
It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been fooled.
Once you give an SP power over you, you almost never recover.
Friend says
Once you give an SP power over you, you almost never recover .. you are right about .. but this is maybe the lesson to learn .. the SP doesn’t know .. but you know ..
Carcha says
+++ Great post. +++
Artoo45 says
I see so many people in this thread commenting positively on this Sagan quote, all the while dancing around the identity of the one person at whose feet it most deserves to be laid, L. Ron Hubbard. It seems to me that if you don’t see that, you’re still in the bamboozle. Ah, well, disillusion takes time, and don’t I know it . . .
Cooper J Kessel says
” One boy with anger issues watched the indicated precept and came out saying, “I realize that I looked at this all wrong” and has never been a problem since. TWTH makes a difference!!”
Yo Dave,
You may want to check out TWTH after you review this weeks OTC minutes/stats…….maybe you can make a difference in the outcome of your Crappy Cult.
And by the way, I made a stat this week myself that is more along the lines of the production quotas of your OTCs ………………there is ONE more very bitter however not yet defrocked apostate in your midst.
Have a great week. And by the way, what the fuck is going on with these continual OTC minutes leaks? Geeesch. You would think a guy with your status and brains could get it figured out by now. Maybe TWTH will help you out, if not with a fix, perhaps with some anger management.