I happened across this 2012 article in Natural News and thought it worth republishing here because of its obvious relevance to scientology, especially David Miscavige (see also my related blog article In Celebration of a Sociopath from 2014):
One of the more offensive duties of being an investigative journalist is taking out the trash — exposing liars, fraudsters, con artists and scammers for the people they truly are. Each time we investigate a sociopath, we find that they always have a little cult group following of spellbound worshippers who consider that particular sociopath to be a “guru” or “prophet.”
Sociopaths are masters at influence and deception. Very little of what they say actually checks out in terms of facts or reality, but they’re extremely skillful at making the things they say sound believable, even if they’re just making them up out of thin air. Here, I’m going to present quotes and videos of some legendary sociopaths who convinced everyday people to participate in mass suicides. And then I’m going to demonstrate how and why similar sociopaths are operating right now… today.
Why cover this subject? I’ve seen a lot of people get hoodwinked, scammed or even harmed by sociopaths, and it bewilders me that people are so easily sucked into their destructive influence. I want to share with Natural News readers the warning signs of sociopaths so that you can spot them, avoid them, and save yourself the trouble of being unduly influenced by them.
Much of this information is derived from the fascinating book, The Sociopath Next Door, which says that 4% of the population are sociopaths. The book is a fascinating read. [I concur with this assessment — it’s a great and easy to read book]
10 signs for spotting a sociopath
#1) Sociopaths are charming. Sociopaths have high charisma and tend to attract a following just because people want to be around them. They have a “glow” about them that attracts people who typically seek guidance or direction. They often appear to be sexy or have a strong sexual attraction. Not all sexy people are sociopaths, obviously, but watch out for over-the-top sexual appetites and weird fetishes.
#2) Sociopaths are more spontaneous and intense than other people. They tend to do bizarre, sometimes erratic things that most regular people wouldn’t do. They are unbound by normal social contracts. Their behavior often seems irrational or extremely risky.
#3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse. Their brains simply lack the circuitry to process such emotions. This allows them to betray people, threaten people or harm people without giving it a second thought. They pursue any action that serves their own self interest even if it seriously harms others. This is why you will find many very “successful” sociopaths in high levels of government, in any nation.
#4) Sociopaths invent outrageous lies about their experiences. They wildly exaggerate things to the point of absurdity, but when they describe it to you in a storytelling format, for some reason it sounds believable at the time.
#5) Sociopaths seek to dominate others and “win” at all costs. They hate to lose any argument or fight and will viciously defend their web of lies, even to the point of logical absurdity.
#6) Sociopaths tend to be highly intelligent, but they use their brainpower to deceive others rather than empower them. Their high IQs often makes them dangerous. This is why many of the best-known serial killers who successfully evaded law enforcement were sociopaths.
#7) Sociopaths are incapable of love and are entirely self-serving. They may feign love or compassion in order to get what they want, but they don’t actually FEEL love in the way that you or I do.
#8) Sociopaths speak poetically. They are master wordsmiths, able to deliver a running “stream of consciousness” monologue that is both intriguing and hypnotic. They are expert storytellers and even poets.
#9) Sociopaths never apologize. They are never wrong. They never feel guilt. They can never apologize. Even if shown proof that they were wrong, they will refuse to apologize and instead go on the attack.
#10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth merely because they say it! Charles Manson, the sociopathic murderer, is famous for saying, “I’ve never killed anyone! I don’t need to kill anyone! I THINK it! I have it HERE! (Pointing to his temple.) I don’t need to live in this physical realm…”
How to dispel illusion and get to the truth
Sociopaths are masters at weaving elaborate fictional explanations to justify their actions. When caught red-handed, they respond with anger and threats, then weave new fabrications to explain away whatever they were caught doing.
A sociopath caught red-handed with a suitcase full of cash he just stole, for example, might declare he had actually rescued the money from being stolen by someone else, and that he was attempting to find its rightful owner. He’s the hero, see? And yet, in reality, he will simply pocket the money and keep it. If you question him about the money, he will attack you for questioning his honesty.
Sociopaths are masters are presenting themselves as heroes with high morals and philosophy, yet underneath it they are the true criminal minds in society who steal, undermine, deceive, and often incite emotional chaos among entire communities. They are masters at turning one group of people against another group while proclaiming themselves to be the one true savior. Wherever they go, they create strife, argument and hatred, yet they utterly fail to see their own role in creating it. They are delusional at so many levels that their brains defy logical reasoning.
You cannot reason with a sociopath. Attempting to do so only wastes your time and annoys the sociopath.
Tip for exposing sociopaths: Start fact-checking something they claim
One simple method for dispelling sociopathic delusion is to start fact checking their claims. Do any of their claims actually check out? If you start digging, you will usually find a pattern of frequent inconsistencies. Confront the suspected sociopath with an inconsistency and see what happens: Most sociopaths will become angry or aggressive when their integrity is questioned, whereas a sane person would simply be happy to help clear up any misinformation or misunderstanding.
Beware of fact-checking the sociopath by asking other people under his or her influence. A sociopath will usually have a small group of cult-like followers who not only believe their fictional tales, but who actually internalize those fictions to the point where they rewrite their own memories to be consistent with them. If a guru-style sociopath talks about his “levitation sessions” over and over again, some of his believers will sooner or later start to form false memories in which they imagine seeing him levitate off the floor. So if you ask those people, “Did you actually ever see this person levitate?” They will enthusiastically say, “Yes!” Because in their own minds, that illusion has become something indistinguishable from a vivid memory.
Much the same thing is true with sociopathic politicians. If a particularly charismatic politician claims he has “created millions of jobs” even though his economic policies have actually destroyed jobs and caused widespread unemployment, his cult-like followers will repeat his lie and publicly proclaim how many jobs that person has created.
That’s why fact-checking a sociopath requires evidence from outside his circle of influence. Does anything he say actually check out in the real world, outside his sphere of direct control? If not, you’ve probably spotted a sociopath.
Sociopaths never answer facts; they always attack the messenger
Another very valuable red flag to recognize when trying to spot a sociopath is to see how they deal with attacks on their own integrity. If a sociopath is presented with a collection of facts, documents and evidence showing that he lied or deceived, he will refuse to address the evidence and, instead, attack the messenger!
If you really try to nail a sociopath down to answering a documented allegation, they will quickly turn on you, denounce you, and declare that you too are secretly plotting against them. Anyone who does not fall for the brainwashing of the sociopath is sooner or later kicked out of the circle and then wildly disparaged by the remaining members of the cult group.
Inventing bizarre tales
One of the easiest signs to spot is how sociopaths exaggerate things to an irrational absurdity. In the sociopath’s world, every explanation is more intense and more heroic-sounding than the way it really went down. Where a normal person might say, “I vomited last night,” a sociopath would say, “I vomited up a 27-foot tapeworm!”
And a truly psychotic sociopath might even add details such as, “And then the tapeworm climbed up the wall and jumped on me and tried to strangle me!”
You might laugh at such an explanation, but I know lots of similar examples that have been believed by irrational cult followers. In fact, this example was patterned off of a real live person who had attracted quite a cult following in a particularly odd, fringe corner of dietary fads. (He also teaches his cult followers to eat rotten, putrefied meat as a form of medicine.)
Every story the sociopath weaves, often on the spur of the moment, is impossible to either confirm or deny. No one can prove him wrong, since they weren’t there, so he can spin whatever details into the story he wants. “After eating this, I had a three-hour ejaculation!” Or, “The Dalai Lama wanted to anoint me as a spiritual leader, but I declined, telling him that I only needed faith, not any official recognition.”
How can anyone disprove such a claim? They can’t. So the sociopaths relies on these un-provable, unsubstantiated claims to build up a false aura of authority, spirituality or knowledge. This creeps up on followers like a serpent, slithering into their brains and taking hold of their belief systems before they realize what has happened.
As a survivor of the Jim Jones “Jonestown” mass suicide says in a PBS documentary video, “Everything was plausible [at the time], except in retrospect the whole thing seems bizarre.”
That’s how sociopaths operate. As they’re speaking, they capture your imagination and sound reasonable, even authoritative. But in the clear light of day, what they are actually saying is absurd… even dangerous.
But no matter what fictions are presented by the sociopath, they always present him in the light of a hero — sometimes even a saint — who sacrifices his life for the good of others. He often talks of “healing” or “detoxification” or being “cleansed.” When he is exposed by truth-tellers, he merely accuses the truth-tellers of being secret undercover agents. When he is accused of sexual assault by one of his own followers (a common occurrence in these circles), he denounces her as an enemy or a spy.
The ultimate destination of a sociopath is to destroy himself and take as many willing victims with him as possible. This is the Jim Jones scenario: Drink the Kool-Aid laced with poison, and thereby prove your worth to your entire cult group.
A common theme of poison, sainthood, redemption
Interestingly, many sociopaths do indeed center their actions around a bizarre food or drink theme, often demanding their members eat or drink poisonous or highly offensive substances that no rational person would otherwise consume. The Heaven’s Gate cult, for example, was led by a classic sociopath named Marshall Applewhite. He managed to convince 38 followers to kill themselves by eating applesauce laced with phenobarbital.
As Wikipedia explains:
On March 19–20, 1997, Marshall Applewhite taped himself speaking of mass suicide and asserted “it was the only way to evacuate this Earth.” The Heaven’s Gate group was against suicide but they believed they had no choice but to leave Earth as quickly as possible. After claiming that a space craft was trailing the comet Hale-Bopp, Applewhite convinced 38 followers to commit suicide so that their souls could board the supposed craft. Applewhite believed that after their deaths, a UFO would take their souls to another “level of existence above human,” which Applewhite described as being both physical and spiritual. This and other UFO-related beliefs held by the group have led some observers to characterize the group as a type of UFO religion. In October 1996, the group purchased alien abduction insurance to cover up to 50 members at a cost of $10,000.
The cult rented a 9,200-sq.-ft. mansion, located at 18241 Colina Norte (later changed to Paseo Victoria), in a gated community of upscale homes in the San Diego-area community of Rancho Santa Fe, California from Sam Koutchesfahani, paying $7,000 per month in cash. The thirty-eight Heaven’s Gate members, plus group leader Applewhite, were found dead in the home on March 26, 1997. In the heat of the California spring, many of the bodies had begun to decompose by the time they were discovered. The corpses underwent autopsies, where cyanide and arsenic were found. The bodies were later cremated.
The suicide was accomplished by ingestion of phenobarbital mixed with applesauce or pudding, washed down with vodka. Additionally, plastic bags were secured around their heads after ingesting the mix to induce asphyxiation. Authorities found the dead lying neatly in their own bunk beds, faces and torsos covered by a square, purple cloth. Each member carried a five-dollar bill and three quarters in their pockets. All 39 were dressed in identical black shirts and sweat pants, brand new black-and-white Nike Decades athletic shoes, and armband patches reading “Heaven’s Gate Away Team” (one of many instances of the group’s use of the Star Trek fictional universe’s nomenclature). The adherents, between the ages of 26 and 72, are believed to have died in three groups over three successive days, with remaining participants cleaning up after each prior group’s death.
This episode speaks directly to the mind-altering power of sociopaths. Their delusions can be so convincing that followers will even kill themselves in order to stay in alignment with the expectations of the group. I know of a fringe health sociopath operating right now who has killed several of his own followers, but of course he always blames them for their own deaths. It’s never his fault, you see.
Sadly, even when one sociopath kills himself (and takes a few of his followers with him), there is always another sociopath waiting to take his place, seeking power, influence, and sometimes fame. It is common for sociopaths to strongly desire to be on television shows or to desperately seek out opportunities for short-term fame, often from engaging in bizarre acts or staging strange events. This is one of the ways in which they recruit followers to join their cult.
Jim Jones and drinking the Kool-Aid
The most horrifying master of sociopathic delusion was, of course, Jim Jones who convinced 900+ people to kill themselves by drinking poisoned Kool-Aid.
And people loved him for it! They felt inspired, excited, healed and guided. Jim Jones was their savior, their prophet. They believed his every word, and they paid for their foolish belief with their lives.
As Jim Jones proved, people can be easily swept up into an irrational belief in a guru or prophet who quite literally plans to murder them.
This is the other dominant factor we see in dangerous sociopaths: An odd obsession with dead things, rotting things, putrid things… things that would cause a normal, mentally balanced person to shrink away in horror. Jim Jones, for example, was fascinated with death and would reportedly murder small animals and then hold funerals for them.
Jones was a master at invoking spiritual concepts and presenting himself as spiritually evolved. This is another common theme among sociopaths, and you see it among Applewhite, Manson, Jones and even present-day sociopaths who are operating in America right now.
Historically, perhaps the best example of a delusional sociopath was none other than Adolf Hitler. He showed all the classic signs: A brilliant orator, a congenital liar, a complete lack of compassion for others, a dominant, aggressive personality, and the invoking of spirituality to justify his actions. The Nazi Swastika symbol, in fact, is a derivation of the Flower of Life symbol derived from sacred geometry.
The modern sociopath: A threat to us all
Sociopaths aren’t just a relic of history; I see their kind operating today, in 2012. A surprising number of people continue to fall for the delusional (but convincing) web of lies spun by wordsmithing sociopaths who may operate in almost any area of society: Science and physics, New Age circles, fringe health, self improvement and even “pop” spiritual development.
People from all walks of life allow themselves to be fooled by these sociopaths, buying into their false narratives, toxic products and destructive behavioral patterns, all driven into their heads through a complex web of social engineering, linguistics and emotional influence. Most people are completely unaware they have been mesmerized into these cult groups, just like the Jonestown people were completely unaware… or the Heaven’s Gate crowd.
There are people today, right now, who are zealous members of fringe cults that advocate drinking toxic metals dissolved in sulfuric acid, eating rotten meat festering with deadly bacteria, playing with poisonous snakes or even dehydrating yourself in a sweat lodge to the point where you suffer hallucinations that are then interpreted as “spiritual guidance.”
These cults are operating right here in America, and they are led by sociopaths who follow in the footsteps of monsters like Jim Jones and Marshall Applewhite. Some of today’s cult followers will pay for their misplaced faith with their lives. Others will eventually come to their senses and wonder how they could have been so completely blinded by a false prophet.
Felix Krym says
Just catching up on the blog after being offline and on vacation.
Yes, this all fits DM to a tee. However, what I haven’t seen in any of the comments is also noting that these characteristics also fit the U.S. president pretty much exactly. God help the U.S. if its Congress doesn’t.
Peggy L says
narcissistic
pathologic
egotistic
sociopathic
diabolic
narcissistic
demonic
Basically David Miscavige is the pope of ic(k)
Peggy L says
It’s difficult to believe that there are not at least a few of the people at the top of this pyramid that have enough proof to legally take David Miscavige down. Even if they took over the cult it couldn’t be worse than what’s happening right now. I guess I am assuming that they are free to come and go as they please.
Villagedianne says
This description also fits Keith Raniere to a ‘T’. Raniere is the founder of NXIVM and also the secret leader of DOS, the slave ‘sorority’ that Smallville actress Allison Mack was nominal leader of. Everything fits, the outlandish stories about himself, the extreme diet the DOS members followed, the sexual peccadilloes allegedly including pedophilia. There are even reports that Raniere kept the dead body of one of his followers on ice in a bathtub. Everything fits.
Gib says
I guess short version is LRH and DM are liars.
Truth Reveled.
Kat DePIetro says
yup, they can do harm to others without blinking. This is why Shelly is in trouble. She will never be let go. She knows way too much.
Gravitysucks says
My thoughts, too.
Aquamarine says
Shelly will never be let go, true. On the other hand, she cannot be beaten or starved to death. If she dies, Miscavige would be in Yuge trouble!
Aquamarine says
He’s got a tiger by the tail, no doubt about it. Miscavige has to be deathly afraid of any leaks. I would doubt that Shelly is being physically mistreated. A prisoner she definitely is, and always will be, but I’d say she’s got every comfort. The Dwarf has to be petrified of any kind of abuse of his wife leaking to Leah and Mike and the other media. Ditto the LAPD who gamely did their bit to deflect when Leah was interested. Think how it would look for the LA police if an abuse situation of Shelly Miscavige came to light! ‘ll bet she’s getting pretty much anything she wants as a prisoner for life. Sounds awful to us, of course…”prisoner for life”…but then, look at what her life was before! Look at what her entire life, from infancy, was before getting shipped away. An extremely closeted existence, whether as one of Hubbard’s Messengers, or as the Dwarf’s wife – a highly controlled, rigidly curtailed existence. She might even be ok with where she is now, away from him, with her various duties, peace and quiet, decent food and other privileges on the prison grounds. I know this is a controversial view and I’m not saying I’m right about it, but its possible she’s content and would never want to return to her former horror of a life with that vile creature who is still her husband. Its possible she says prayers of thanks to Lou. Seriously.
Scott Campbell says
Great article. Thanks Mike.
Balletlady says
A superb article…..sociopath….they don’t see it in themselves…. I found an interesting read in Dr Phil McGraw’s book “Life Code”. As he has noted many times “it’s a different world out there today” Vern enlightening indeed as some of what is in “Dr Phil’s” book aligns with this article. I’ve had my now adult children read the book & advised many friends to read the “Life Code” book as well.
I’ve always been a “soft touch”….always willing to help, and therefore got taken advantage of, used, and literally screwed over by those I thought were friends, or someone I felt sorry for. The “Life Code” book well, you’ll have to read it yourself.
Mike as always…..prayers & love to you & yours. What was taken from you….shall be returned one day.
JustSomeDude says
Thanks for this interesting read. I’d like to add one correction / specification:
>> The Nazi Swastika symbol, in fact, is a derivation of the Flower of Life symbol derived from sacred geometry. <<
Actually, Hitler took the symbol from a group called the "Deutschvölkischer Schutz- und Trutzbund". As with most thing in National-Socialism, its use for nationalist causes was not been Hitler's idea. The more you read about the 1920s and 1930s, the more you'll find that there is very, very, very little original thought in Hitler's version of Nazism. Yes, he was a great speaker, a great actor (within his limited confines) and a great manipulator. A master mind, though, he certainly was not. That – among many other things – makes Hubbard very similar to Hitler.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
“The ultimate destination of a sociopath is to destroy himself and take as many willing victims with him as possible.” Yep.
Well, we all know what Miscavige is doing with scientology.
On a larger playing field, with politicians and world leaders, this quote is horrifying when you think about the global repercussions of these sociopaths in positions of real power.
Scientology Money Project says
The author of the piece “Health Ranger” Mike Adams is a Scientologist or was a Scientologist. He is evasive on the topic and some articles have him as a former member. He is anti-Psych, anti-Psych meds.
The article quoted here is copypasta Adams borrowed but the advice is nevertheless sound. However, the Health Ranger seems unable to apply the advice himself and is blind to Scientology and its foremost sociopath David Miscavige, the man for whom Leah Remini is Kryptonite. Her name may never be mentioned in Scientology these days.
The Health Ranger was unceremoniously booted from YouTube recently for his paranoid rantings. In 2014, Adams wrote of his rants, “I now know that much of my outlook on the world was being negatively shaped by toxic elements found not just in everyday foods, but also in some superfoods and dietary supplements.” His new angle was to test the products he sells for toxins, particularly natural products.
Health Ranger Mike Adams is known for his pseudoscience, quackery, and conspiracy theories on virtually everything.
Mike Rinder says
Thanks for the info Jeffrey. Interesting. Lots of conspiracy theories circulate in the Scientology world. They latch on to all sorts of strange ideas, many based on Hubbards disdain of the medical profession and government agencies.
Villagedianne says
I don’t know if Mike Adams has any history with Scientology. But, like many alternative health practitioners, he may have found CCHR to be legit, without focusing enough on its cult connection. I think Adams quoted CCHR statistics in one of his articles? Many in the alternative community would agree with CCHR about psychoactive drugs given to children. But in the case of CCHR, the enemy of your enemy is not your friend.
YadaMomo says
Wasn’t he in the “We Stand Tall” video?
Jaye R says
YES… In my own health research, I found Mike Adams and by his scientology-like patter, I deduced his is or was a scino.
Fox says
@Scientology Money Project
Regardless about all what you say about Mike Adams (that is not necessarily true)…
Just this : “The author of the piece “Health Ranger” Mike Adams is a Scientologist or was a Scientologist.”
And what then ? Mike Rinder also was a scientologist ! I was a scientologist ! So now I am saying that eating shit is not good for your health. If scientology also say eating shit is not good for your health, does it make my claim suddenly wrong or does it make me a scientologist ? Well !
It’s obvious and more and more people know that our oceans are full of PCB’s, mercury, lead and all the fishes and all sea life, animal or vegetable, is contaminated, we all know that Monsanto is selling poisons thru pesticides, GMOs and many other toxics made legal by our corrupted governments. We know that our big Pharma drugs have more side effects than benefits to our health. And I don’t even speak about what we breathe, eat, drink every day. Don’t you see the dramatic increase of obesity, heart diseases, Parkinson, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, metabolic diseases, cancers (even in infants and babies now)…
So we didn’t wait for Hubbard or Scientology or the Moon cult or yet the children of god to know all this. It’s becoming a huge problem right now. Most of people know this now, except you, it seems !
Frodis73 says
Sure those things are problems, but listening to somebody like Adams isn’t the answer. The guy has a direct financial stake in the woo/quack medicine, supplements and vitamins he’s selling…just like Hubbard. Stick to peer reviewed, evidence based info.
His being a current or ex sci isn’t the problem, it’s the fact that he hides it or won’t discuss it that’s an issue.
Cre8tivewmn says
The author based the article on a good book often mentioned here, so despite his reputation and the magazine’s reputation the info is still useful. It’s always a good idea to check out the sources, of course.
LRH doesn’t just fit the definition of a sociopath, he created a sociopathic organization with his writings. PR series, KSW, admin. The only exception is the high paranoia that Hubbard and Miscaviage have that kept them from the media after a while. Statements on camera always come back to haunt a sociopath.
Dr. Strabismus of Utrecht says
Hubbard was the sociopath: Miscavige is a (barely) functioning psychopath.
ctempster says
What is the clinical difference between a sociopath and a psychopath? I thought it was only one of degree.
Karma's a B says
Ctempster I think you just described Miscarriages normal operating range of thought.
CO$ Money Doc says
I found it ironic that outside of those spontaneous outbursts against our esteemed proprietor and other misfortunates in the way, everything DM does appears to be highly scripted.
Yet on further reflection, I would also venture that even these “spontaneous” acts are coldly calculated for maximum impact, making DM a martinette as much as anything else.
Given his tidy appearance and level of fitness, even with the ciggs, he strikes me as quite disciplined in his personal life. It’s his frenetic reactionaryism that’ll get him in the end, one incautious remark at the wrong moment, but who knows what evil, etc., etc…
zemooo says
“The ultimate destination of a sociopath is to destroy himself and take as many willing victims with him as possible.”
I have disagree with that assessment. A sociopath wants continued worship and every pot in every card game. The self destruction only comes when their house of cards falls down.
Ann Davis says
I agree with you.
Kyle says
I think that is where the sociopath and the sociopathic narcissist begin to differentiate.
bobxtm says
What a sociopath wants, and what a sociopath’s ultimate destination is, are not the same thing. Lack of self-awareness is one of the effects of this state.
ctempster says
Zemoo I agree with you. They only seek their own destruction when the house of cards falls down. Otherwise, they want to be very much alive so as to inflow the admiration and cult following they accumulate along the way.
PeaceMaker says
I always thought these descriptions fit Hubbard to a “T” – and that his teachings and policies in Scientology essentially enshrine narcissistic sociopathy, and cultivate it among his followers. It’s no surprise that Miscavige followed in those footsteps, though he’s not as charming (#1 on the list) and as glib a fabulist has Hubbard was.
patty templeton says
Mike,
There are lots of great articles on sociopaths out there. But Mike Adams and Natural News is InfoWars level cray cray. My suggestion after you check out the site further – take the article down and replace.
Mike Rinder says
Thanks for the heads up. I had never heard of Natural News or Mike Adams.
Seems to be Alex Jones for the left.
But I dont disagree with his article and dont have time to find something else right now. The media it is published in and the author don’t make it wrong. They may detract from a first-glance credibility check, but I find nothing off-base in this piece.
Rod M says
Alex Jones is humorous, as far as oour government is concerned if Jones ends up disappearing it’s because he divulged top secret information they are hiding from the light of day. He’s kind of like the canary in the deep state conspiracy mine. He was banned from facebook recently, why would they ban someone who is known as a conspiracy nut? Ha!
Mike Rinder says
Humorous? Claiming school shootings are staged events? I hope those parents take everything he has ever had or will have in the future. Making nothing out of losing a child is grotesque.
Rod M says
Anyone who believes what the news says 100% is being foolish, as in “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction”. Take what you read and hear about America’s enemies with a grain of salt. Just as scientology lies to it’s parishioners this government lies constantly about what they’ve done and are doing.
Mike Rinder says
Are you trying to say Alex Jones didn’t say that about Sandy Hook? I heard him myself.
Rod M says
Many of the alleged shooting incidence have been staged, Sandy Hook has been one of those alleged events. I’m sorry but there isn’t any actual evidence that Sandy Hook happened, fact check the stories and you’ll see for yourself. This is a very charged topic because kids were allegedly involved there but it’s fake. There’s a campaign to ban guns and the democrats are using these staged shootings to have the second amendment repealed from the constitution. We had a similar event here in Roseburg Oregon, but the teen who supposedly did the shooting doesn’t exist. The press covered the event for two weeks and Obama made a special trip here but after two weeks of media coverage the whole incident was dropped and the press hasn’t followed up on the guilty teen. Look for follow up stories on the shooters weeks afterward – they don’t exist. Why? This government uses the endagerement of kids as an excuse pass just about any new law, but when it comes to actually doing something to protect them like seatbelts on buses – nothing, nada! Still no seatbelts on buses, why? Fact check everything you hear from the media because they lie constantly.
Mike Rinder says
You take the cake. I thought I had seen it all but actually trying to claim the horrendous suffering those families went through was staged is simply unconscionable. As I said I hope those parents bankrupt Alex Jones and when they do, you can humbly admit you are a deluded fool. OMG this really pisses me off. You disgust me.
Aquamarine says
Of course Alex Jones said that.
Kyle says
During the Iran Iraq war, Iraq extensively used chemical weapons. They used chemical weapons on the Kurds after we failed to support the uprising. They had a chemical, biological, and nuclear research program. To say Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction in their arsenal is being blinded by propaganda you wish to believe.
That the weapons they had were used as an excuse to go to war was foolish, but denying the existence of the weapons and their research programs is foolish as well.
I Yawnalot says
From my perspective, any terrorist is a weapon of mass destruction in waiting. State of the art weaponry, big grudges, senseless actions and extremely complex circumstances are the ingredients, just add stupid to it, and stir.
Alcoboy says
Look, Rod M, the purpose of this blog is for those of us who used to be in Scientology to talk about our experiences and to point out what’s wrong with the cherch. This is not the place to post a bunch of conspiracy theories based on politics. School shootings are very sensitive matters not only for those involved but for all of us. So, is the holocaust nothing more than a capitalist plot to destroy all dictatorships?
Old Surfer Dude says
+1. You’re right on the money, Mike.
Karma's a B says
+2. Spot on.
Nicole Odland says
I’m sure the family that has had to move 7 different times due to harassment from his followers find it very humorous as well.
Aquamarine says
Alex Jones: a sociopath if ever there were one. With these lawsuits, his fame candle is flickering. What’s troubling is that millions listen to him, believe him. Its seriously troubling that millions of Americans are this gullible, this empty headed and angry. Who are they? Never mind. I’d rather not know. I have enough problems. So glad I live in a blue state.
Stefan says
He´s even been discussed about here
https://whyweprotest.net/threads/naturalnews-com-a-scientology-front-group.64017/
However, that was 8 yrs ago and he problably have some other view today and we also have the expression; Don´t kill the messenger:-)
Ann Davis says
I have known a couple of sociopaths in my time. Until you can recognize that behavior it can be mind blowing. It sure seems Miscavage fits it perfectly! People still in do you see that? Clear as day. Save yourself please!
otherles says
You know, sociopath is a valid description of LRH, right?
Old Surfer Dude says
And, Corn on the COB.
Ann Davis says
“Corn on the cob”. Lol. That makes my day OSD! ☺
Kyle says
Scientology: The ‘cherch’ that converts the sociopath checklist into scripture.
rosemarietropf says
Wow. This is good stuff. It’s good to get smart about sociopaths because 4% of 7 billion people is quite a few of them. They sound great, they look great, they are smart…uh oh, not easy to fathom when you are young and it’s the young people they go after.
Kyle says
I have a former employer that fits an uncomfortably large number of those descriptions.
I would also add one thing to look for:
Any successful action is due to them, not you, even if they had nothing to do with the planning or execution.
Any failure, no matter how small, even if the plan was theirs, is your fault.
So there will always be criticism, and never praise.
Rod M says
Absolutely correct Kyle, thanks.
rogerlarsson2012 says
Big are proud and small feel ashame. Pride make people big and shame make them small. Proud shout out and ashamed regret their mistake.
Bruce Ploetz says
One minor correction. As the inhabitants of Hastings, NE, the “Koolaid Capital of the World” are quick to point out, the Jonestown event involved Flavoraid. Not Koolaid.
I am not fond of the Koolaid/Jonestown connection anyway. I remember the expression “Koolaid drinker” from long before Jonestown. Check out “The Electric Koolaid Acid Test” by Tom Wolfe about Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters. And LSD.
Ironically it is a short drive from Hastings NE to Tilden NE, the birthplace of L Ron Hubbard. The poison apple falls not far from the tree.
In any case, kids, don’t drink that stuff! The sugar kind is bad for your teeth and the sugar-free kind has weird chemicals in it.
The hard part is discerning what is true and what is sociopathic flim flam. There is a lot of flim flam around, and “fact checking” often leads you to contaminated Wiki pages or somebody with the opposite agenda. Lots of folks are calling each other liars, they can’t all be right. Can they?
It is ironic that the Internet gives us all access to more information than was ever possible before, and most of it is pure bollocks. Like that Johnny Cash song – “And the lonely voice of youth cries – what is truth?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0KQWTBljjg
Rod M says
I agree Bruce, in high tech most type “A” executives always seem to be sociopathic except in one regard, they were forced to relay facts. I bet in their personal lives they tended to lie, but sociopath are never reasonable about their lies. This was a great article Mike, it really fit the “MO” that Lafayette” RH operated under. I bet his relatives tended to stay clear of that flim-flam artists. Why hasn’t Laffy returned our lawnmower? That SOB has had it for years!
Alcoboy says
Bruce, while you are correct about Flavoraid and Jonestown, I feel that the reason we use the term ‘kool-aid drinker’ is because Kool-aid is a more recognized brand whereas Flavoraid was, I believe, an A&P product that is no longer on the market. Same thing with the beverage Funny Face. If you referred to brainwashed persons as ‘Funny Face drinkers’ it would only cause confusion.
Outraged in Oregon says
Wow! This is very chilling yet very enlightening. Thank you for posting it. Everyone should read this.
Old Surfer Dude says
Hmmmmm…Scientology. Sociopaths. They are interchangeable.
Outraged in Oregon says
Agreed. However you see such outside Scientology … from all sides of the “aisle”
SILVIA says
No question Miscavige is a sociopath 100%. We have concluded so since reading the Sociopath Next Door, a book that should be read by the many.
Now that we’re on this subject I may sat that the Article and the Book itself have also led me to conclude that, the sociopath characteristics are present in someone at the very, very top of the USA Government.
As you many not be able to do fat checking on him, just read the book as it tells you how to handle him and the consequent effects of his actions.
Rod M says
We have “many” sociopath’s in Congress as well, the individual you’re speaking of is a relative new comer, and our government has been flim-flamming US for years Silvia. Isn’t it odd how many of those people have ganged-up on this one person?
Aquamarine says
The individual being spoken of may be a new comer to politics but not to sociopathy Read his authorized biographies. So far he’s “written” 12 of them.. I read the first 4. In them he tells you all about himself, proudly.
bgh179 says
I get where you’re coming from, but I’d recommend against citing anything that has Mike Adams’ name attached to it.
Frodis73 says
I thought it was pretty funny that natural news was warning about scammers and guru’s too. Maybe they were trying to be funny. Lol.
Julia St.john says
Mike:
All so true. I lived with such an individual for 25 years. The articles author said this best –
“As a survivor of the Jim Jones “Jonestown” mass suicide says in a PBS documentary video, “Everything was plausible [at the time], except in retrospect the whole thing seems bizarre.”…. looking back I don’t know how in the hell I didn’t see it.
The Self distruction element I’ve never thought about before… so true. There was always a fantastic plan to make things better that ends up in a huge financial failure.
I’m hoping this article and your show with Leah will continue to change lives and help people realize they are not alone!
Isolation is the worst. And sociopaths want you to be isolated! I missed years with my children, years with my grandchildren.
I’m so happy I can be with them now. 25 years gone. I’m still angry about that. And still very very thankful I’m free.
Julia
Sandi Greenhill says
JillIan Epperly the creator of Jilly Juice certainly fits the description of a sociopath. Many people have passed away from following her crazy protocol.
https://www.jillyjuice.com/
chuckbeattyx75to03 says
“….. they capture your imagination and sound reasonable, even authoritative. But in the clear light of day, what they are actually saying is absurd… even dangerous……”
Hubbard and Keeping Scientology Working dissected line by line, comes to mind. But Miscavige has outdone Hubbard in more nastiness, but Miscavige lacks the charm and inventiveness for “new tech” that Hubbard had.
This is a very sobering list.
rogerlarsson2012 says
In future lives the experience in $cientology will be audited out in sessions.
Old Surfer Dude says
I’ll gladly pick up the cans.
Sandi Greenhill says
https://www.jillyjuice.com/
Great article on sociopaths and what to look for . JillIan Epperly is a good example of a sociopath who is causing harm to people by encouraging them to follow her protocol. It’s just so crazy!