Sydney “ideal” org has gotten quite a lot of airtime on this blog as they send out promotional items that are routinely forwarded to me. Also because Australian — and Sydney happens to be my favorite city in the world (close second, London).
They, like all the other “ideal” orgs are evidence of the complete failure of this “bright idea” program in every respect other than swelling the coffers of scientology.
For those of you who have not been around scientology for the last 25 years, let me explain how this “ideal org” program got started. It was a confluence of (un)fortunate circumstances.
First, remember Hubbard’s “St Hill Size” campaign where he announced that every org needed to be “as big as the old St Hill”? His gimmick for the staff was that SH was big and prosperous when he was personally running it as the only real training location for scientology in the 60’s. He said every org needed to get up to this size in order to be “above the make-break point” — growth would be guaranteed, staff would be paid a living wage and they would also get their OT levels. This was all laid out in Hubbard’s “Executive Directives,” LRH EDs 339R and 339R-1. The “old St. Hill” had 200 staff.
In these issues, Hubbard said that any org could attain St Hill Size in a matter of weeks. All they needed to do was be “on purpose.” He said the evidence of this was that it had been done in Boston when he sent a bunch of criminal Sea Org regges who had been responsible for the “postulate check” era of false Gross Income statistics to Boston. They were given the choice of doing an “amends project” or being declared suppressive. Boston org was stat pushed into new levels of production (which promptly collapsed again when the criminals were brought back to the Apollo — this time as heroes).
When OT VIII was released in 1988, Miscavige promised that OT IX and X would be released when all orgs were the size of old St. Hill. It became a “thing” to get OT VIII’s to join staff and take over orgs to grow them to St. Hill size. Though a number did so, none of them expanded to St. Hill size.
As time wore on, the carrot of OT IX and X got moldier and moldier as none of the orgs were making it — a few had been declared “St Hill Size” but once the stat push to get them there was done, they promptly sank back to their former levels of non-production. He needed something to keep the OT’s on the hook with the hope that OT IX and X would in fact materialize.
It is a bit of a long story, but the ideal org concept grew out of an eminent domain proceeding by the City against the Buffalo org. Scientology sued the city and ultimately won and as a result got a large new building. That became the first “ideal org” though it as not even called that at the time. Local public were forced to contribute to the renovation of the new building as that was not part of the deal in the lawsuit. Miscavige then decided to export this idea to Flag and insisted the Flag public “take responsibility” for their local org (Tampa) which was a shithole in a strip mall. This is where the heavy fundraising pressure began… Then a staff member in Joburg org was murdered right outside the org building in downtown Joburg. They had to move. The public there were forced to “solve the problem.”
Miscavige realized he was onto a good things.
He then gave a briefing at Maiden Voyage to the “OT VIII’s” where he announced that he had uncovered the “reason” why orgs were not making it to St Hill Size. It was because they didn’t have “all the elements needed” to be a full org. He used the analogy that you cannot deliver an auditing session without a meter and auditing room and pen and paper. You cannot deliver standard scientology without an org that has ALL the facilities. This necessitated a large enough building that included x number of auditing rooms and course rooms and space for his innovation of “displays” in Div 6 to get new people in (these are videos that explain scientology — he said that staff members were not good at talking about scientology so this would bypass their incompetence).
Now the OT VIII’s and OT Committees all had something they COULD do that would get all orgs to the size of old St Hill. FUNDRAISE for new buildings.
And this became the mantra.
But not a SINGLE one of these “ideal orgs” has actually made it to the size of Old St. Hill. Not one since the first “ideal orgs” in 2003.
And Sydney is once again proof of this. Though Hubbard said it should take a matter of weeks (and NEVER mentioned anything about needing a new building), Miscavige flew to Sydney on Tom Cruise’s private jet way back in May 2014 to yank the ribbon on the Sydney “ideal org.” In the 6 1/2 years since then they have NOT made it to St. Hill Size. For years they put out promo pieces (like a lot of orgs) “We Are Going St Hill Size” but it was all just wishful thinking. There is a LOT of wishful thinking in scientology — things are always “going to happen” and the planet is GOING TO BE Cleared…
Anyone with half a brain would realize this pet project is a failure — unless they were counting the money and value of assets of scientology. All the hassle of having to deliver auditing and training in order to make money has been eliminated from the equation. And the sheeple are too blind to see.
Regarding Joburg Org, I was there at each and every milestone to becoming an Ideal Org. I was there on course (KTL) the evening the staff executive was shot dead. I was at the very first fundraiser (not yet for an Ideal Org – just for a new building). I gave the biggest donation at that first event, and was promised an auditing room named after me. That never happened. I was at every succeeding fundraiser.
I will never forget the horror when we had nearly raised all the money for the new building and the renovations were well advanced, when our ED announced the GOOD NEWS. Miscavige had found the ‘why’ to expansion, and we had to start thinking much bigger. The building (which was already quite aesthetic looking) needed to be much bigger with an entire second floor. I took out a second bond (actually third, I’d already done a second for OT levels) and became one of the major contributors. Eventually, my name was on a plaque outside the building.
That gave me no pleasure. The second big shock was when the CO of the Sea Org gave us the figure needed to take all of South Africa’s orgs to ldeal size, and which we were expected to donate.
I was already beginning to realise that the ‘wins’ from OT levels was pure ego. I’d swan around acting superior to everyone else. When people commiserate with me for having been suckered into scn, I tell them don’t bother sympathising with any scientologist including me – we were all in it for the ego trip (we’re sooo special). I was also a contributor to Joburg’s satellite centre (I forget the official name now). I was doing an assignment on an adjacent building recently, and the engineer went to some trouble to point out all the stuff ups in the basement and foundation of the scn building. But of course, that’s all out of sight.
At least I can proudly say I never contributed a cent to any other org. I imagine my name’s off the plaque too (must be quite a few gaps by now).
Dr. Mac – Thanks for being so open. Even after I left scn and had dismissed it as having been in a cult I still carried forward some feelings of superiority, the attitude or idea that I “knew things” others couldn’t know. Yikes – hopefully that’s now all “as-ised” – lol
From http://www.xenu-dirctory.net
as-is
To look at something and make it vanish like magic. “Jim as-ised and blew some charge is session today.” See Alter-Is.
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Your average wog would have no idea on how to as-is something.
(joke!)
http://www.xenu-directory.net/glossary/glossary_a.htm
The worst part about this post is that Mr Rinder has made a massive error and has exercised poor judgement. Melbourne is a much better city than Sydney – give me Port Melbourne over Manly any day !!
So sorry. I love Melbourne too. Especially as it’s the home of the AFL.
But no suburban beach anywhere beats Palm Beach in Sydney. Manly and Bondi are not in the top 5 of Sydney beaches…
Whats your AFL side Mike ? for me its the mighty Port Melbourne (VFL) – good effort that you are still a AFL fan considering that you left Aus at a young age and that you wouldn’t of had access to AFL matches most of your life.
Yes, never lost my love of Aussie Rules. I can watch 4 games a week here! I have 3 teams — the Crows, Swans and Magpies (one from each city I lived in). I’m a bird man I guess, though I very much do not like the Hawks and not a fan of the Eagles. Not a good year for me last year…
Back in the late 70s/early 80s, $cientology in Sydney was big and the Day and Foundation orgs had maybe 200 or more staff between them. Then along came a CMO Mission and the staff number dropped by over 50% in a few months. The place never recovered.
These days I doubt if there’s 200 SO/staff in Sydney total. That includes the AOSH ANZO and CLO ANZO. SH size? Please.
Despite the million dollar bus stop at the AO, they continue the steady dwindle into total irrelevance. My only wish is that it speeds up. Death is just taking so long it’s painful to watch.
I hate to see any life-forms suffering.
Million dollar bus stop at the AO ? Whats AO ? Australian Open ?
The kult bought 2 houses on the main road from the river up to Chatswood CBD so they could put in a bus stop and staff walkway to their buildings. They would never have been given approval to use the place if the only entrance was down a narrow suburban street.
Sorry if not clear in what I said. I just got up for work 5am Monday. AO = AOSH ANZO.
No probs cobber – I think they also put in secure fencing that blocked out the entrance to a large park and they later came to a agreement to hand the local residence swipe passes to access the park. I think this came about after a incident at their Sydney base.
As an OT VIII in 1988 after the Maiden Voyage, I was never asked by anyone in the Miami Org to help them get to Saint Hill size. As a matter of fact, I was ignored by the top staff members. The reason was very clear. They were jealous. I was a businessman with a good income and able to pay the stupid prices to get to OT VIII. In fact, I was so different from these staff people that I was regarded as a being from another planet. I could go on and on about the rejection from specific people by name but it would be pointless. The CEO of the Miami Org was literally nasty and screamed at me over the phone “Bring me people, period.” He toured my mission and did not have one kind word. There were people who literally avoided me like I had a virus, Miscavige was making stupid statements and had me read a thirty six page document about the WHY behind the failure of the Freewinds. It was total nonsense written by an idiot. Scientology had a few years after Hubbard died to make one final effort to get organized. In the end, Hubbard produced a mountain of words that added up to lies. Scientology has survived the thirty years since I left based on the fear of few people who do not wish to lose their “eternity”. Scientology now dwindles and should be handed over to the Nation of Islam. These people could do wonders with Dianetics. I saw the Ministers today in East Tampa and they ;look very sharp. They are far better than Scientologists.
Low lifes are still low lifes whether scientologists or well-dressed, well-mannered NOI.
I don’t know anymore. The Black NOI Ministers that I have come to know are different. Just cannot get enough of these people.
It sounds like you are getting love bombed.
I had been kicked out long before the Sydney Class V org went “Saint Hill Size”, but I was there when AOSH ANZO did. They achieved it by importing about 20 Sea-Org missions, and just managed to meet the requirements. Of course, the instant those missions left, it no longer met the criteria. We knew. We “not-ised” the reality.
There are a number of “out-points” with this woman. I can’t imagine that any organisation can afford to utilise an auditor as anything but an auditor. They’re are very scarce. Why is this woman in Personnel? She’s an import. She already had an important, scientifically based job before this. She should have stayed in it.
Remember that Sydney boomed because somebody was successful in making inroads into Taiwan, and the boom came from Taiwanese, not from the local area. Taiwan got an org after I was out, and I’m sure that it greatly impacted the Sydney org.
Hubbard and Miscavige have been KNOWINGLY committing fraud and betraying Scientologists for decades. A never ending stream of lies and bullshit. How many thousands of people were used and abused by these two criminals? How many people lost their sanity, money, family, life? How many babies were aborted as unnecessary distractions to blindly slaving for these two con artists? If anyone really wants to make a saner and safer world they can start with getting rid of Scientology.
Well said
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Friend Skyler,
Hubbard was a “Sci Fi” writer……needless to say he was smart enough to carry it over into his OWN statement about “Wanna make a lot of money…..start a religion”…..
Well, that is just what he did….started a religion. As a Sci Fi “author” of sorts…he was able to expound (after watching no doubt several TV Horror Shows & reading Horror Books)….to manufacture his OWN version of what that newly formed or founded religion’s DOCTRINE should be.
He was also able to convince several women to marry him & he produced children that he “adored”….right? Father right…nnaaahhh. Maybe that’s why he separates parents from their children….he separated himself from his kids more or less & it didn’t bother him so WHY should it bother anyone else???
After all, in reality there are OTHER religions that SHUN their members when they “step over the line or speak badly about the religion…or WORSE YET………LEAVE..ESCAPE…..” With them there goes all the tithe money they would have donated
Many of us want to do good in the world…all those other “nutty religions” have their own version of what is acceptable & if you misbehave YOU MUST BE PUNISHED. The ONLY way to keep you toeing the line is to punish you in some way…..beatings, starvation, over work, forced abortion,the hole, the WORST PUNIISHMENT IS DISCONNECTION.
Unless you want to be kicked out….keep on keeping on ….if you give us an guff any lip & refusal or don’t obey every command……we will DECLARE YOU AS AN SP (& who the HELL Outside of COS EVER heard that word??)……all the Brain FART of a very sick man who got absolute delight torturing & controlling others….
He is dead now for decades & apparently to this day NOT ASSIGNED a new meat body??? I mean seriously folks WTF???…The former SUPREME BEING has FAILED to achieve a new meat body…….
one would THINK that by now Lron would have reappeared to collect his just due, right?
What chance in HELL does David M have of achieving a new meat body if the former “leader of the pack” has yet to receive his? OH WAIT…..it just hit me that David M KNOWS this is all FANTASY…all MADE UP BY A SCI FI WRITER……..
No wonder QAnon….3%…..Proud Boys do Exist….THEY BELIEVE THE SAME TYPE BULLSHIT…………..more made up crap from someone who puts ideas out there & others pick up on it & …well we all saw what happened January 6……a supposed “cult of cannibal pedophiles who”…..ahh…you get it, right?.
Dear Balletlady,
I get you and I always have. But to be honest with you – which is what I am certain you want – I have never understood this criminal scam or the crazies behind it or on top of it.
To my way of thinking, if you are a brilliant con person and you do not care one bit about working a 9 to 5 job or working other ways that are accepted by the masses, then … so be it!
Also, have at it! If you want to make your way in life by conning other people and stealing the money they need for their families to survive and you are willing to take the chance of going to prison, then … I understand. Go ahead and try it. Of course, we all know the odds are about 98 percent that you will wind up in prison for a very long time. But that is an understandable choice. I get that.
But if you believe you are smart enough to do anything in this world and you decide you will choose to make your way in life by lying, cheating and stealing and taking the food out of the mouths of people with children who have a dire need for that food when you could choose to do something else, then you are right! I don’t get that. I don’t get that at all.
I believe that the masterminds of our time who include Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner and others of their ilk said it best when they said words to the effect, “The best way to fight against Fascism is with satire. Hold the evil bastards up to ridicule.”
So that is what I tried to do with my post below. I tried to give people a laugh by holding these evil bastards up to ridicule. I will be happy if just one person laughs at them.
So, in summary, Balletlady, I get you. But I don’t get this creepy criminal cult and all of its would be and wanna be leaders.
Hi Skyler,
Your comment about “I have never understood this criminal scam or the crazies behind it or on top of it” Certainly many don’t get it because THEY are all about EVIL. As good people many of us don’t “get it” because in our heart of hearts, deep in our soul & brain we DO NOT ACCEPT EVIL EXISTS.
The Devil himself uses many disguises & forms to entice one to commit EVIL. ..now believe me I am far from a religious person, but I AM Spiritual……..those of us who have even a DROP of COMPASSION within ourselves want to help others & we do not expect anything in return for helping others. We are doing good & trying to make life better for someone else.
This CIRCUS is NOT about “doing good, helping others etc”…..they are all about themselves & how much $$$$ they can obtain from members more or less as one of the church DOCTRINES……you MUST PAY FOR THIS BOOK, DVD, CD, CLASS, LESSON. Pay over & over again because there “was a mistake in the book” & now you have to buy a new one….the mistake…punctuation….anything they can find…verse verbage…anything to force members to buy buy buy
My BFF’s daughter moved to a new community…where she called the church to inquire about registering her sons for Sunday School & church membership. She was told to bring her Income Tax Form from the previous year……When she inquired as to why that was necessary….she was told “We need to figure out how much YOU NEED TO TITHE WEEKLY based upon your income”……HUH?????
The only church within miles……so basically she obliged. When another friend was asked about signing a commitment form about tithing…she asked “What IF I can’t afford to give you “X amount” for a period of time, like if I loose my job”…..the church official told her “YOU CAN OWE IT TO US & PAY US WHEN YOU HAVE IT”………HUH???
All about obtaining money through more or less COERSION….to be an accepted member means you DO as you are told to do.
The abuse within the confines of COS seem boundless….yet no legal authority can shut them down….for any reason. Even Danny Masterson has yet to face justice as do many others who take or took part for violence & sexual assault or harassment of others……
I agree….WE as good people can’t accept or understand it.
ALL MEMBERS TRY TO DO IS HELP OTHERS…….& with nearly every one here, it cost them so so so much……………..their families, pain, hurt, regret, bad memories & scars…..yet they continue to exist & we wonder why…..& the answer seems to be that there are STILL IN’S who continue drinking from the Kool Aid well of belief…so sad.
Hello Balletlady,
Before I forget, I want to tell you that I have always been intrigued by your name and one day, I’m determined to ask you how you came to choose that name.
I once knew a lady who loved ballet and there was a ballet company in the small town in which we lived that put on various performances. I loved to go see those ballets. It seems to me that it is not at all easy to find performances – even in large cities. One day, they chose to take several scenes from a few different ballets and performed those scenes. They explained they were doing that because they loved those portions of the various ballets. I had never seen anything like that before and it was the most enjoyable performance I ever saw.
However, I hope to ask you about that one day when COVID is a thing of the past and we all might be feeling more comfortable taking time out for pure enjoyment without this black cloud hovering above our heads.
It feels much like the evil black cloud of this scam hovering above the lives of its slaves.
As far as this phony church goes asking people to produce tax returns. I would hope that most people would take a copy of their tax return and tear it up and throw it in their face. After all, participating in a “tax free organization” implies to me that org is above and beyond trying to squeeze money out of their members for any reason whatsoever. These people really should be ashamed of themselves to be asking people to provide them with tax returns.
What a scam! Screw them!
I studied dance & gymnastics in my youth….Ballet & Modern dance my forte. While in high school I did a vault over a “horse”….the girls who were supposed to catch me when I completed the vault, missed & I landed badly on my left foot. It blew up like an over inflated foot ball as I had injured tendons, ligaments & bruised small bones etc. It took a month or more til I could put weight on it.
Then I went back to Ballet class….you guessed it….I reinjured the same ankle again during a Pas de Deux ….dance with a male partner where he lost his grip on me, I slipped & reinjured the same ankle. …that was that. I could no longer in…. simple speak …”toe dance”. I will leave it at that, too painful to recall both injuries.
I saw in person the Russian Ballet…took my breath away. To know it is to love it….the Nutcracker another breath taking dance!. I miss it but can’t dwell on it, so be it. The beauty of the dance itself…..careers don’t last long. We are NOT made to dance on our toes. I have had several friends who have LIFE LONG injuries….severe arthritis, deformed & bent toes/ankle twists… to this day if I “come off a curb or stoop incorrectly or too fast”…I get pain that shoots up my entire leg.
So much for that. I agree….SCREW THE SCAM…you are lucky to be OUT.
Snow today…I hate snow…& we’re getting plenty….I hope you & your family are well…..waiting for that Covid shot!…..Best wishes to you & yours from our family!
Any man who once played American football or other contact sport forever considers himself a jock. Any woman who once practiced dance forever considers herself a dancer.
Dancer – Jock relationships seem to work out well. I had two nice long term relationships in the past with dancers. 😇
Republican and Democratic conspiracy theories abound. As Mark Twain or somebody once said, some of the scariest words to read in the newspaper are, “Congress is now In Session.”
Mike a great article. Thank you. What you write helps me to better understand the evolution of these “ideal orgs”.
I think it would be very helpful every now and then to give the historical background of certain things as it helps a lot to really understand what scn is and the truth beyond their cheap PR.
Personally at the dawn of this crap I collected money and made events about it. The explanation was that it was the missing step for SH size orgs.
As a result of this ‘great idea’ as far as I know at the moment the birthday game is suspended and there is no longer a management as established in that executive directive 339r.
Dave became the one man show (another off policy based on hubbard) and they keep pushing people to raise money for the ideal orgs.
But this money DON’T STAY in the orgs but GOES to CSI which invoices them (and become part of their stats) and maybe will give them back one day (but keeping the accrued interest) and will shows the IRS that CSI uses its OWN money to create new orgs.
Well, this really SUCKS!
All that you wrote is TOTALLY spot on Mike. Thank you very much.
Great article, Mike. And this sums it up so well, “Anyone with half a brain would realize this pet project is a failure — unless they were counting the money and value of assets of scientology. All the hassle of having to deliver auditing and training in order to make money has been eliminated from the equation. And the sheeple are too blind to see.”
My name is Karin and this is my story.
I used to be a American girl until I took a free personality quiz from some handsome young man who talked funny and I got to join this wonderful scam called Scamology. My husband is from Australia and so naturally we moved here and I converted from Americanism to Scamming the planet. Nothing I have ever done before or since has been so right for me. I now absolutely know that I am on track to save this planet and live for a million billion years. Mr. L. R. Tubbard told me so and I know that he is never wrong. Why is he never wrong? Silly! That is easy! The reason he is never wrong is because he is always right.
After we got married, I had four precious little darling daughters and my loving husband told me that meant it was time for me to join the She Org which is the most privileged and most honoured and most revered group of ladies in the entire scam. We scam more money and breed more kiddies for our Little Leader than any other group does – especially the men folks. Sometimes they can be such stupid fuckers!
I haven’t seen my darling little daughters for more than four years now. But it’s like everyone tells me, it’s worth sacreeficing anything when we are busy clearing the planet. YEEE-HAAWW!
When our Little Leader says “Jump!”, we all know the only answer is to ask him, “How High?”. Any other answer will get us sent to the RPF Torture Camp where we must become corrected through torture and so we always know how to behave. When our Little Leader shouts, “Breathe!”, we sometimes think he said, “Breed!” and so we naturally obey and breed. But when we become preggers, we must get abortions which make us all very sad and we cry and cry but then our Little Leader says, “Jump!” and so we have to get over it. In the She Org, there is no time for tears. We all must take our abortions and like them.
I now know that I will be spending millions and billions of years making this planet a better place and I will be reponsible for filling it up with good little ladies in the She Org who always obey our Dear Little Leader.
I cannot imagine ever being happier than I am now. Except after I have to abort one of my babies. Then I feel very sadly and I cry and cry and cry my eyes out. But thank Goodnes for our most Beloved Little Leader. Because when he sees us crying, he just gives us a big smack with the back side of his hand on our backside asses and just like he says – that straightens us right out and we are ready to breed again.
Scamology. Yes Indeedy! There is no life like it and that’s for sure. Everyone in the She Org absolutely agreed.
You may be curious why I am making this ad when I hate my life in this scam so much.
Well, this is the only way I can get to tell my darling daughters, “Much Love Y’all”. I haven’t seen them in more than four years, you know.
Skyler, you are a very strong & and I can appreciate what you’re doing. You’re a very strong woman!
OSD – laughter
OSD. You are too much. LOL.
I guess I have mud on my face.
Wow Skyler. You get an A+ for your creative writing skills. I guess you need to pick your favorite genre. I’m ready for a new sci fi story but the choice is yours.
(Oddly enough I read the whole comment before I looked above it and saw it was you who wrote it and I thought it might have been written by some pissed off woman – haha)
Awww. I was just trying to have some fun. What else are you gonna do with this criminal cult?
But thank you and thank OSD for your kind words.
Hope to see you at the next She Org meeting.
Skyler, wow as Richard says for a moment I too thought this was the comment from someone quite pissed off.
$cientology has devolved into a poorly run real estate scam. All of the ‘renovations’ done to a mOrg render it expensive to convert into other uses. That 1 million dollar building is suddenly worth only 750k. Not a good investment. It’s like some Trump organization is running the scam.
If it’s worth $750K today, you can be sure it will be worth much less in the near future.
Of what possible value is some big old decrepit building that has been decaying for 20 years while standing empty? All the real estate they bought will soon be worth almost nothing – just like their stupid scam.
This comment is not to promote scn but to inform anyone considering leaving the C of S or joining that scn was not always the way DM is “delivering” it.
In the 1970’s the emphasis (at least the way I looked at it) was on creating a lot of new auditors and auditor training was streamlined. Study the basic theory behind the processes and then go audit. A person going at auditor training full time could become a competent scn and dianetics auditor in a year.
I never bought into Clearing the Planet but lots of auditors might make a difference. Hubbard only sold auditing, training and books so it was obviously to his advantage to have lots of auditors to increase his personal wealth.
True. I joined staff in Nov of 1970 and became a Class IV auditor in my study time by Aug. 24, 1972. Before LRH screwed the pooch by building the Flag land base, I was CSing for twenty four Dianetic interns at one time (we had four full time CS’s, though that changed dramatically in a few years, as we lost our mission public to Flag).