The latest promotional items from Tampa org – this is “ideal hype” because everything Tampa does is “ideal.”
They are on an all out over the ramparts effort to recruit staff – perhaps because they are losing so many.
And then this 6 pager…
This tells you everything you need to know.
Even the Dir Reg cannot survive on staff pay alone — she has to have a “Supportive husband who runs a successful, expanding business” (David Tapia runs an Allstate Insurance agency in downtown Clearwater…)
This is the first pilot org. The first ideal org. The first ideal SH Size org blah blah blah. And even the Director of Registration who gets a lot more commissions than any other staff member in the org cannot live on her “staff pay.” How is this possible? Either one of two things are true:
- The org is making little money — but how could this be if they are so big and expanding? Services in scientology are not cheap. And they are not given away for free. Ever.
- They are delivering a lot of service and making plenty of money but they don’t give any to the staff.
Either way, being on staff in the best org on earth sucks. You can imagine what it is like in the lesser ideal orgs. Let alone the run-of-the-mill shitholes that are not “ideal.”
I don’t see how they are surviving. I don’t see how Wayne is still alive given his smoking habits. Maybe the tech does work and I am the dumbass. Nice guy. I feel sorry for him.
When I drive byTampa I don’t see any public going to the org. Empty buiding with cameras. In Planct City they have a Dianetic Center in downtown – it is always constantly empty….
Any how, the females in pictures are young, fresh and cute. No doubt “Glamour” SELLS.
Its marketing bro. in real life they are exhausted. and they look it.
About to watch part 4 of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gpIjbieFyQ – Thanks so much Mike for taking the time to explain about life in Scientology.
Whoa! I just noticed this:
The MODEL ideal org?
What’s next? The Model Ideal Org with Honors? The Model Ideal Org Meritorious?
A Saint Hill Sized Org where the Dir Reg cannot make enough commissions to live on?
I got one!
The First Ideal Org to publish as many lies as we have.
The scam org is as always before working lkike if scientology was an agency for pretty models, mostly girls, selling some image of some ideal. When one remembers how sex is trated by Hubbard since 1950, and the percentage of divorces created by scientology “handlings”, added to the number of fallacies and lies regarding the boastings of the cult, only one solution remains: leave that cult right now, like they’re used to say in scientology !
The team is here to make the ad! Quick! Shove the ugly staff members in the broom closet!
and clean up this god damn place
I wonder if they have any idea how small they are. They’re fleas on the back of the dog. They’re fleas loudly proclaiming, “we’re here! we’re here! we’re here and we’re taking over the world!!!” It’s one of the most stunning things for me as a Fresh Out after 35 years. It’s a tiny tiny insignificant thing, boasting how big it is. It’s a puffer fish in a great big sea.
Good question. Maybe some at the top actually do, IDK. But I have long contended that they don’t seem to realize that Scn has never really gotten out of Non-E, I mean since inception in the 50’s. They were on the verge with Jeff Hawkins’ promo program, but they screwed that up royally. Not only did they whack the upstat, but no one was there to “prepare to deliver” once the demand was created. For that matter, it’s questionable if anyone ever knew they should be. Nor was anyone attempting to find out from those who expressed interest what they needed and wanted. They just continued with the attitude that you are an idiot, a walking talking mass of bank who needs to be told what to do and how it’s going to be. That doesn’t resonate well with many people.
“… but no one was there to “prepare to deliver” once the demand was created.” Reminds me of the NY Org when the order came down for an All Hands to cover the city of New York – all five boroughs!…and take orders for DMSMH. NY, up to that time, had been in what seemed to be a never ending Power trend, recognized by LRH as the first org to ever be in power day AND foundation. So we yanked everyone off, sent everyone out with order pad in hand to cover every book store in all five borough. (I doubt we got them all!) But we took order for thousands of books, while crashing our stats totally.) Then we found out that the books had never been planned for nor printed! Sheer, utter stupidity.
No gorillavee. it’s that only a VERY small % of people end up falling for such scams. AND, word DOES get out quickly. In a BAD way. By the mid-70’s you’d be surprised how many EDUCATED people already knew of the scam.
Woo hoo! My iBooks just informed me that my pre order of “Ruthless” is available.
Saint Hill is going Half Tampa Size!
Uh – why are they ALL holding up their right hand like that? (photo on page 3 of the 6-pager)
It looks like someone caught mid-greeting by a camera while they are raising their hand to wave and say “hey, how are you doing?” but this is clearly a staged photo not a spontaneous thing. Is this another one of those Scientology mannerisms?
jmsr
jmsr, They are pledging allegiance to xenu. It’s a Scientology thing. Either that or saying hello.
They’re reaching for your wallet. “You’ve got to pick a pocket or two.”
The idea of being on staff, living on 6$ a week, no medical coverage, no dental care, lower conditions, following the black/white thinking of a dead narcissist, under the control of a naive sociopath while trying to convince the world that our long term poverty is short term is simply repugnant. Yes, I had fun and gains on staff but the mind fuck STILL lingers after 30 years.
I gotta say to anyone who joins that it was one hell of a sales job that got you there. ClV org staff is fucked up and Sea Org is a total mind fuck.
Run for your life.
Tell me about, JustLook. When I was on staff in Hawai’i, there were many, many weeks that the staff go NO PAY. And when we did get paid, you’d have enough to buy a burger and fries. I hated being on staff…
in Canada in the 80’s, it was a given there would be no pay. We got paid once every few months, and then it might cover a burger. Sometimes we’d get on a roll and get a few fivers a couple weeks in a row. A bunch of staff were on welfare – they called it, “the government grant”. Scamming was OK cuz, y’a know, saving the planet and stuff.
That second picture “A Decade of Expansion” with the headless uniform (but it does have hands) is really freaky. That was a bad idea… bad visual. Now I have a headache. 🙁
Off the topic, Mike, but just so people know, Ron Miscavige will be on Seth Meyers (NBC) tomorrow night and Megyn Kelly (Fox) on Wednesday. He is recording with Brian Seymour for Australian TV tomorrow, but I don’t know when it will air.
FYI – when I goggled ‘Mike Rinder’ to find your blog – up came ads for Mike Rinder by the CHURCH of Scientology and http://www.ronmiscavige.com
I did not click on them – but I am pretty sure they are hate website complitments of the Church of $cientology – where we believe in freedom of speech, except if your speech is anything but waxing enthusiasm for our money grubbing cult.
Evil cult.
Sorry – it was ronmiscavigebook.com – please fix that Mike?
They are so predictible,
Clicking on either link “…miscavige.com” or “…miscavigebook.com” takes you to the same hateful site.
I just had a quick look at the link you posted and it’s the same bullshit from $camology we’ve seen time and time again. They seem to have the crap prepared and just do a global insert of names and places. The sheep and robots so scared of Demento that they blindly do his bidding while topping up his coffers at every turn.
I was sure if I squinted very hard that I could read under reason to join were the words: “We’re sad and pathetic and desperately in need of money. Training in defensive arm folding is provided as well.” Mind you I could have been incorrect but…
Even the kids !
If Tampa sucks that bad, then the new Idle Morgue in Orlando has got to be 20 times worse given its location in one of the most predictably violent parts of the city. South OBT was bad in the 80’s when I was a kid, and its steadily gotten worse since.
And what gets me is that for the price they paid for it, they could have gotten a decent building in East Orlando or Apopka or Maitland or Clermont and they probably weren’t far off from being able to afford something in a really nice area like College Park or Delaney Park closer to Downtown. The only reason to buy something on South OBT is to be close to tourists and send BRs down to the Florida Mall, I-Drive, and Mall at Millennia which is damned dumb. They should really take into account what the County and City did to the Black Hebrew Israelites when they started up their racist nonsense by the Florida Mall. Lets just say that the Orange County Sheriff’s Office absolutely loves to arrest people for resisting arrest without violence, it fills quotas without much paperwork and they’re not as lenient as Orlando Police Department is. For example IIRC no one got arrested at the Chanology protests in ’08 on Colonial, at least not while I was observing. I’d just left the Army on a medical and couldn’t walk too well so I didn’t participate, but I sure as hell watched, it was right down the street from my house so it was well worth sitting there watching.
Had it been in the County they’d have arrested people left and right though and that’s my point. I wouldn’t play with Orange County and one of their major money makers.
I once had the ‘pleasure’ of beginning a course at Orlando org. It was the sorriest and saddest excuse for any org one could imagine. They had 3 part-time staff, no one on course but me and my boyfriend, and there were skeletons of dead chameleons in the course room. I’m quite certain it’s been straight up and vertical since then.
It looks like OSA has switched on a lot of their parked Ron Miscavige stalker domains in the last day or so and now point them at a central Dead Agent site. (The curved arrow in the blue circle icon is a redirect to another site.)
Stalker Sites
I have a patch from there I got off Ebay.
With Tampa Org supposedly doing so well in the past decade I find it strange that Lynn Irons left a few years ago. Gee, I guess he just couldn’t handle all that “expansion”.
so, the wasband (the ex husband-OTV111 & a crumb) told his kids he was leaving staff @ a NY org (not the one in Manhattan) & then went to Flag to give them thousands more to route off. Guess what??? He is still on staff here and has to find a replacement…such a hoax & gimmick this cult is.
Why are they always recruiting new staff if there is no real need for them? It cost them more-not much-and they’re making little $ in return. Bad busisness. it’s the same with all these new buildings.scn is truly fucked now. there is bad p.r. everywhere and i’d to see the stats after this week.
Most likely the reason is that qualifications that must be met to work on staff at Tampa org are exactly per LRH standards and not like they are at most other orgs. That of course makes sense right, with the RTC just up the street in the next town to report it to that can’t do anything bout it?! 🙂 This church kills me. 🙂
All those salient reasons why tell me just one thing, They are still buying The Ruthless Dwarf’s BULLSHIT!
I remember Tampa Org fondly in an ideal sort of way. The Ideal revolving door for Flag rejects. Except after I verbalized the Clear Cog in session at Tamp I was sent to Flag for a CCRD. Two weeks later I was out of Scientology. It was actually a rather Ideal experience.
Peggy Guigon! I haven’t seen a photo of her in years! We co-audited our Grades back in the early 80s.
So she’s still drinking the kool aid. Not a big surprise at all. She was destined for greatness in the world of make-believe!
I notice all those Scientologists have their arms crossed. I wonder what that means.
Crossed arms means “dauntless, defiant, resolute”. Although they are all smiling, they want you to know that there are no dilletantes or Mrs. Pattycake types on staff at THEIR org. When they’re not dressing up in silly pirate costumes, when they have their uniforms on, crossed arms means, “We’re clearing the planet for real. The time is now”.
(Forgive me, I am besotted with this “Time is now” meme. It is just so amusing to me.)
i have noticed that too, and not just in these promo pieces, almost all of them. it’s a thing apparently. my guess is it’s supposed to make them look powerful and decisive. but in reality, crossed arms drive people away, it makes one seem closed off and not willing to listen to others’ points of view.
Exactly! They never seem to understand how non-verbal body language influences advertising. They could use help in that. Actually, they could use a lot of help in composing their written communications too. Just starting with something as simple as a spell-check, and making sure the correct word is being used and the grammar is correct. They have too many unqualified people composing their fliers and so forth. Where’s Jeff Hawkins when you need him… oh, that’s right. Now I remember.
So what is it, they sold Dianetics to 1% of the population of Tampa, or 5%? 3,500 books or 17,500? (Tampa proper has a population of ~350,000. ) Seems to be a bit of discrepancy in their own PR piece. Guess proofreaders are not required on this $cicon stuff.
And…….
Now tell us how you really feel. 😀
{Let alone the run-of-the-mill shitholes that are not “ideal.”}
“Guess proofreaders are not required on this $cicon stuff”.
Probably because the apathetic Sheeple are in such overwhelm that they scarcely glance over these things before shredding them.
How ironic for Miscavige that we bitter, defrocked types are likely the only ones actually reading this shit.
Call me an idealist, but I don’t think they can promote themselves so fancifully until they’ve at least gotten through the “D”s in CF.
Been There Done That.
Being on Staff results in one thing, getting out of Scientology.
Couldn’t agree more. It was what finally opened my eyes and “cured” me too. 🙂
If life as a staff member of the Tampa Org was so great, you would not need to send out promo. People would be joining staff just through word of mouth. No sales pitch required. The good times are self-evident. This is obviously not the case.
The only way orgs can continue to survive is through deception. They have to deceive the public to pay large sums of money to “go free”; and they have to deceive Scnists that being on staff is the bee’s knees.
In either case, if you sign-up, you will be dedicating your time or your money or both. Two things which keep the vampire cult on life-support.
You just hit every nail on the head, statpush.
Excellent post, statpush.
It is hard to imagine any new people come in.Maybe the staff can tell each other how causative they are and put each other in and out of ethics and write long reports on each other.The noise outside the gate is getting so loud that maybe it is breaking through the cognitive dissonance of some of these know best deluded losers.Although Wayne Fuller is so right he will be the last one to quit.
What ever happened to the 200 sea borg who took over the LA org? Aren’t they the show piece of “how it’s supposed to be done?”
With the size of the Tampa org now, they should have roughly 40 missions dotted all over the Florida peninsula in addition to hundreds of field auditors all making good money bringing in new public and flowing them up the lines to this mammoth bastion of central org technical excellence.
But they don’t. They are all clustered into their ideal building, wearing their ideal uniforms, crossing their arms in ideal arrogance while they dream their ideal dreams and desperately work their mental magic and believe with all their might that they are liberating mankind.
I wish them well. I hope they come up to realizing why it is that the public stays away from them in droves.
I noticed all the crossed arms, also. ‘Body language’ interprets that posture as:
‘Arms crossed on chest: defensive, putting a barrier between the person and the others’
Living expression of the cognitive dissonance of their daily lives?
Ideal Orgs are all IDEALLY EMPTY thanks to all of our suppression against Scientology and the wee little dictator
Google Scientology and Allstate.
Wait…what??? Didn’t they say to prospective staff members that a “career” on staff was the same as a career in the Wog world? They must be pulling down, what, $3,000 a month? More?
More like $30. per month.
The issue is sleep, try living on 2 to 3 hours of sleep
per day. As an E.O. I interviewed plenty of staff who
did’t get enough to eat and sleep. Some PTS but nobody
complained about lack of money like it was a Taboo subject.
So with Zombie Staff I would write a note to the persons senior
that this person needs 8 hours of sleep per day or three meals
a day.
When I was doing physically poorly in my first few years of SO we had a real nice MAA – Gary Jacobs. He wrote a note that I required a day off each week to go to the mountains or the beach. I took those days off and was never questioned for several years.
I saw Gary Jacobs yesterday while he was crossing a street and I was standing on a corner with friends. I gave him a wave and a cherry hello like he was my old friend I hadn’t seen in 10 years… He recognized me then squeezed his face to remove all expression and kept walking with just a slight bit of stall in his step.
Jose, it’s comforting to hear you tell the right way to treat a staff member.
Thankyou. Gary Jacobs and I were on staff together.
He is straight Arrow
I don’t know what period this covers, but interestingly, Joburg Org claimed the same – specifically points 2,3,4 & 5. Joburg opened it’s Ideal Org in 2003 and in 2005 went both Saint Hill Size and won the Birthday Game that year. The Universe Corpses (pun intended) arrived in 2005 upon this announcement, and Joburg had always been split into Day/Fdn orgs. As I said, don’t know the dateline but they definitely claimed all these points as a “world first” at the time. That they were utterly bankrupt by 2007 is neither here nor there of course…….. And today hardly qualify as a City Office let alone a Class V org.
I watched Ron’s 20/20 interview on You Tube. Eye opening. I was skeptical that Jenna Miscavige’s story was not really trustworthy because she never really knew her parents or COB very well. But I can’t doubt the reliability of COB’s dad since he’s been there from the beginning of it all. I’m glad I watched.
Have you read Jenna’s book? She didn’t write a book centered around COB or her parents, although they were of course mentioned since they are family. Jenna wrote about her own life experience, growing up a child of Sea Org parents, the children’s life on the Ranch, becoming a Cadet and then a full fledged Sea Org member. She was there, it was all about her. Why wouldn’t her story be trustworthy?
Jenna’s book rang really true to me. She wrote about growing up in the Cadet Org and her experiences in Scientology. I found the book very straightforward and believable.
“Supportive husband who runs a successful, expanding business”
(David Tapia runs an Allstate Insurance agency in downtown
Clearwater…)
Remember all those OT success stories from the 1970s and 1980s in the “Advance!” magazine where OT’s claimed all sorts of amazing powers over MEST?
Doesn’t it stand to reason that OT’s wouldn’t need insurance because they can just redirect hurricanes, earthquakes and forest fires to hit other people’s houses? And can’t they just stop the flow of time so they never get in a car accident?
If Heather Tapia’s husband sells insurance to Scientologists, particularly to OT’s, how successful could he really be?
Anyone attempting to stand to reason in the world of scientology is standing on thin ice.
David Tapia states that he services 3800 customers. It would be impossible for them to all be OT’s or even Scientologists for that matter! This is good for him though. When he and his wife leave the CoS, which is likely at some point in their lifetime, he will still have a thriving business.
“David states he services 3800 customers.” An acceptable truth IMHO. Probable reality: David has written close to 3800 policies since he opened. I may be off base here but scientologists have been known to once or twice stretch the truth.
I just don’t get it. Tampa Org has this decade of amazing accomplishments. Truly astounding. How, then, are they right now “moving above the make-break point?” Seems to me that life in Scientology is pretty figgin’ precarious if such a powerful entity is tottering on the edge of disaster. And, I didn’t see in their list of monumental things that they managed to sort out their files through almost half the alphabet. That’s a pretty big deal.
More…
If they list as an achievement being the first ideal org to split Day and Foundation orgs, what does that say about LA Org combining Day and Foundation?
They talk about their achievements of 60+ staff as past accomplishments. If they have 60+ staff today, I’ll eat LRH’s hat. So, drop in staff numbers bears ‘splainin’ Lucy.
LOL “… Run of the mill shitholes…”!!! And what’s with all the crossed arms- every photo.
Yes don’t they know that crossed arms in business means you are unwelcome and I am closed minded? I guess that can’t read anything on the internet so they don’t know this.
They’re just being honest.
Right, and arms crossed over the chest signals defensiveness and resistance. When arms are open at the sides, you appear more approachable. Per communications expert Karen Friedman, this is one of the 10 worst body language mistakes a person can make in an interview. These staff promos are recruitment tools and are supposed to appeal to people to join their workplace. It also looks cookie cutter; everyone in the same uniform is acceptable but in the exact same pose and smile is unnatural.
In the world of process therapy crossed arms or legs is a signal that “your crossing me out”. Obviously this implies that either the person is not receptive to your communication or it is a signal of outright hostility. Firm and forthright my ass, they look like a petulant 3 year old that was denied access to the Christmas kitten…
They cross their arms to project a super confident ethics presence I know what’s good for you attitude, also a closed minded and you are unwelcome demeanor.
They are all posed and told exactly how to act by a gold staff member most likely.
Yeah…you see, crossed arms is a defensive posture. It’s warning you to stay away. Keep it up!
I made the same observation. Crossed arms in a PR photo would make me serious reconsider joining any group that would display this type body language. Someone at that org gave these people a VERY bad suggestion on a pose for a publicity photograph.
Crossed arms also projects that datum from LRH about being on staff at a Class V org: “This is not a job. Its a trust and a crusade”.
Which effectively translates to: “Expect to work very long hours and be paid very little. You do this because you have a high, ethical purpose to clear planet Earth.”
At the same time, a staff job being promoted as a “career”.
So many mixed messages. Contrary Facts!
Itsa job its notta job. Itsa career but you’d better be doing this only because you have a strong purpose to help and have someone to ensure that you have adequate food, clothing and shelter provided SOMEHOW before embarking on your “career” with US.
I suppose that by covering any and all possible buttons, no matter how they cancel one another out, they’re hoping that something, somehow, will stick, will resonate with SOMEONE and make him/her sign up for staff.
This has been going on since the beginning of Scientology. It is hypnotism and implanting ideas into the minds of the vulnerable and it works when standardly repeated. It worked for us and it worked for them. They will leave when they have had enough or they will die with Scientology. Looks like these poor blokes are going down with the sinking ship.
Your opening sentence says so very much to this never-in. It is my takeaway thought every time I read various blogs. I wish people would begin every post with that very sentence.