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The All Ideal Wild West

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The idiocy continues…

The “Wild West” is going to become the “All Ideal Wild West” (as long as you hand over enough money).

Not only that — out of the entire western half of the US (and Flag) they have scraped together 338 “confirms” for this monumental event.  The vast majority of those “confirms” are people who say they confirm just so they don’t get 5 or more calls a day. The number who will actually show up for this latest fundraiser is likely about 10% of that.

As a special treat — here is the video she is touting. You can click on it yourself and see how many views and likes it has.:

The three buildings they have to complete to make an “Ideal WUS” are Austin, Hawaii and Albuquerque. Traditionally failing orgs even before the era of failing orgs.

But what is so laughable about this “All Ideal WUS” is the idea that once they complete those orgs the Western half of the US will be taken care of.  How lucky are the populations of Alaska, his birth State of Nebraska, Idaho, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Iowa, Louisiana and even Ron’s childhood home, Montana. They don’t get ANY scientology org, ideal or otherwise. And in many of the other states there are some pretty substantial cities that don’t have orgs either: San Antonio springs to mind. Tucson. Bakersfield, Eugene, Tacoma. You can bet all of those states and cities have Jehovah’s Witness Kingdom Halls, many more than one, let alone Synagogues and Christian churches.

And finally, let’s not forget, according to the scientology definition, the entire Continent of Asia is “ideal” as the two orgs (Tokyo and Kaohsuing) are “ideal.” Never mind there is not a single org in the rest of Asia, including China, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc etc. Between Asia, Africa and the MidEast (also “ideal” because Tel Aviv) far more than half the planet’s population has no access to any scientology organization… They’re really “Clearing the Planet.”

 

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  1. All “ideal” didn’t work for California, so why not try the same thing over again for the whole region and expect a different result? Scientology is a textbook example of an insane organization, and they act out that practical definition of insanity constantly.

    Actually, it reminds me of the theoretical Marxists who claim communism has been a failure because it has to be worldwide to work the way it is supposed to. It and Scientology actually have a lot in common as philosophically idealistic and utopian, and as a utilitarian matter willing to resort to brutal authoritarianism and thought reform, as much as Hubbard tried to portray them as fundamentally opposed.

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    • Here is an interesting discussion between Jordan Petersen and Michael Shellenberger, author of the book “Apocalypse Never”. They discuss philosophically idealistic and utopian trends, their negative effects on people and possible solutions. It focuses on environmental activism but expands to the subject in general.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLxZF_EWaLE

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    • Well Scientology has already been compared to North Korea on this site, including the empty buildings, leadership cult and smearing of defectors.

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  2. Sending you and Leah love and support. I greatly enjoyed the last podcast episode. Here is by the way something that I don’t understand. Those are Scientology disease outbreak prevention measures in France. They are providing them to ensure the safety of the staff there but I don’t know if that applies in every country where Scientology is. I also don’t know if this is still current because it’s from 2020. But I find this highly suspicious. You guys mentioned that Scientology does not believe in COVID. If so I wonder what the point of that is:

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.scientologynews.org/press-releases/french-scientologists-provide-prevention-resources-in-the-face-of-new-outbreaks.html%3Famp%3D1&ved=2ahUKEwj7sa-0tevzAhVGAmMBHaQZCW8QFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3GACFDDWm7LCN9PnpFXWtd&ampcf=1

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  4. Look at how many countries or even continents that have now been “idealized”!
    What an incredible achievement!
    The inability they have to look at the evidence that keeps throwing in their faces every day of how things really are is really embarrassing.

    It’s reasonable to assume that another even thicker bubble must have formed inside the existing bubble.

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  5. Old saying ” no money no.honey ”

    Mike majority of states you mentioned were of Mid west, poor states with serious law and order issues.

    But the question is that, where ever they have a physical set up , what they can deliver ? Which hasn’t been delivered by others ?.

    Can they produce only 20 super duper ability person for the interviews and assessment at any top University of thier choice,such as Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT , Colombia etc

    Just to validate the super abilities they gain while following pay-as-you-go model

    As per all.mainstream religions every thing in this universe has expiry date attached to it , validate by Big Bang theory.

    So , nothing can change the eventuality, like all other Cults went through this phase of Age of Paranoia , failure every where …..from blaming illuminate, to Big Pharma, United Nations , Central Bank, world wide web, Social media etc etc is no longer ” believable ” for masses.

    Inching towards next phase, Age of decay in next 4 to 5 years.
    It’s not me ,written on the wall.

    Last chance, move to. Mid west in isolation for next 50 years..

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  6. Is the St. Louis Org an “IDEAL Org” and does it do well enough to warrant being included in this video? Or did they just want a shot coming from under the Arch because anything with the Arch is cool?

    Also, just an odd question, does Scientology have a lot invested in Las Vegas? I never hear much about Vegas except that one of LRH’s sons committed suicide there, if I remember right? But with all the money that comes into and leaves Vegas it might do well?

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    • I worked at the Vegas Org for a few months in the mid 1970′ s. I knew a woman there who had spent time with Elron years back since her ex husband at the time was a big shot at the Org. According to her she and her husband invited Ron to come visit them but he declined saying that Vegas was “still too hot with radiation” from the A bomb testing in the 1950’s. At least that’s what she told me – lol

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    • I’m not sure but I think back in the early days Vegas was under consideration to be a major hub for scientology, possibly because of it’s anything goes vibe at the time and maybe also because a lot of money was changing hands as you suggest. Hubbard worked out of Arizona for awhile.

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    • My job at the Vegas Org was as an auditor. Among other customers I audited were a professional gambler, a showgirl and a blackjack dealer. Back then you could get a good breakfast for 99 cents at the casinos as they tried attract early morning customers. Yummy

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      • Never did understand the concept of “professional gambler”. To me that’s just a person who gambles because they don’t have a job. 😉

        Maybe *too* much money exchanged hands to make Vegas ideal for LRH. I mean, back in his day wasn’t Vegas a Mafia’s playground?

        Also, I find if hilarious that LRH would be afraid of Nevada because of its A Bomb testing history.

        Thank you for your insights.

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        • Mechelle, a real professional gambler doesn’t use their own money. Their job is to take the money given to them by investors and increase it by gambling (playing poker). The player gets a % of the winnings. I knew a guy that make $15k – $200k a year as a professional gambler in the L.A. casinos.

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    • Mechelle, St. Louis bought an “ideal” project building over a decade ago – and let it sit and deteriorate. For the past couple of years, they have quietly been trying to sell it, and then floating an alternate plan to remodel the current org building and put a large addition on it to meet “ideal” standards. They seem to be one of the SFOs (small and failing orgs) whose prospects for ever getting an “ideal” building seem unclear.

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  7. Didn’t Tubby personally bless Albuquerque with his pretense … err … presence back in the ’50s or ’60s?

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    • I think it was somewhere in Arizona. As I recall he was working on the admin aspects and trying to reduce all the squirreling going on and make sure any money coming in came his way.

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    • Just as speculation, being a Mission holder in the 50’s and 60’s might have been profitable. Sell scn while recruiting idealistic people to work for little pay and keep most of the Gross Income in your own pocket. Mr. Hubbard would obviously have a problem with that.

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      • Richard, at least by the 70s being a franchise holder was very profitable, as attested to by the lavish lifestyles and known cash hoards of some of them. The mission holders seem to have done a bit better at adjusting to changing times, though sometimes by resorting to the sort of hardcore tactics orgs are now infamous for, while the orgs were suffering from the waning of the youth counterculture movement, so Hubbard was definitely jealous – as well as typically paranoid. Also, with the advent of KSW Hubbard wanted to have tight ideological control of Scientology, and the franchisees tended to be too independent in that way, too.

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  11. I thought that the “Ideal Continent” would be one without any trace anywhere of anything to do with L. Ron Hubbard?

    Well, one could dream…

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  14. “The vast majority of those “confirms” are people who say they confirm just so they don’t get 5 or more calls a day.”

    Gosh, I’ve totally forgotten that I used to do exactly that. When a staff member at LA Org or ASHO wanted to confirm me for an event, I always said “I’m already confirmed.” That would get them off my back.

    Love your blogs, Mike.

    Fred G. Haseney

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    • I forgot to mention just how long I did that. I got into SCN in 1977. The last event I went to was the one at the Hollywood Palladium at which David Miscavige announced that Hubbard had died. That was in January 1986, I believe. I never went to another SCN event even though I stayed in that cult until 2014.

      So, for about 25 years I lied to Staff members who tried to confirm me for their stupid events.

      Thanks, Mike!

      Fred

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  15. With the “Masked Legends” theme and symbol copycatting “The Masked Singer”?

    Scientology organizations cannot get their followers interested enough and get people in with Scientology themes for their “Ideal West US” campaign, but have to use ‘wog’ entertainment as a support to make it more enticing.

    For that that Scientologiststs look down on the ‘wogs’, they surely copycat the ‘wogs’ a lot for their endeavor to whip up their followers, especially for their fundraiser/fleecing events. “Source” and Scientology do not suffice.

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  16. Mike your post demonstrated the ‘Observer Effect’ in quantum physics. When you measure things (especially REALLY small things) you have an effect on the system.

    When I first watched the WUS (Masked Legends …. really?) video there were 172 views. Two hours later there are 183 views for an increase of 6.4%. That’s going to look good on someone’s stats!

    Unfortunately for there were 2 downvotes earlier and 3 downvotes now. A whopping 50% increase.

    I’m assuming no actual RCS Scns watch the video in the timeframe. I can’t say I blame them.

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  17. I’ve lived in Asia for twelve years now and I guess maybe you COULD say that we are the MOST “Ideal Continent” with only two orgs to serve FOUR AND A HALF BILLION PEOPLE! 😃😃

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    • But Joe, those staff members are so OT! 4 billion students and preclears are just as easy to audit and train as 4 would be. You know that. See, all they do is apply the HCOPL “Toughness”. Nervous about 4.5 billion wogs to audit and train? Well, what if you had 9 billion of them? Now THAT’S scary. “Hmmm…4.5 billion, not so bad, actually. Piece of cake”.

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      • Thanks Aqua … Think I just had a reality adjustment 😃😃 (and usually that only happens in the morning after my first cuppa cawfee) …

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        • Oh, anytime, Joe. Always eager to enlighten someone concerning the efficacy of the tekk. Well done on your cognition of magnitude. Be sure to write a Success Story. Speaking of Success, its 1:52PM, only 8 minutes left for this week’s Birthday Game. Could you do a flow right away? Your credit card is on file with us. We will Clear the entire continent of Asia in 4 years. Will you help? The time is now. Much love, Aqua.

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  18. Michael Chan??? What is that regmeister up to at that shindig?

    I do understand why Miscavige doesn’t want a mOrg in Bakersfield. No one wants to go to Bakersfield. No one.

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  19. And don’t forget to include Alaska in this list of org-less western states. I think Anchorage has a small, failing and less than ideal mission, but that’s it for the Last Frontier. If I recall correctly, Hubbard in his pre-Commodore days sailed to Ketchikan on a “mapping expedition” where he had some mechanical issues with his boat and absconded without paying his bills. He perfected his con later and it is still running to this day. Back then, the only whales he saw were probably humpbacks.

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