The saga of the Cult Shopping Network continues.
What we are NOT seeing is shouting from the rooftops about the incredible results of this venture. So far we have been regaled with the amazing feat of one woman starting an extension course after being told her illness was psychosomatic and could be cured.
It’s been on the air for a week now. If the hype was true, we would be seeing pictures of Introductory Courses full of people and Facebook would be filled with local scientologists boasting about how many people are in their org. Nothing in sight.
Instead, they keep telling themselves that “dissemination at the correct orders of magnitude just became a reality.” Like it’s for REAL!
Sorry — but not sorry — it’s NOT real.
The hype is based on the assumption that people WANT scientology and the only problem is they don’t know it exists. AND, because we now put it on a satellite TV network they will now find out about it. This is scientology logic at work. Tell yourself something and it makes it somehow “true.”
In the US at least, there are few people these days that do not know scientology exists. The problem is that they know it exists and it is bad, dangerous and evil. They wouldn’t send their worst enemies in for a free personality analysis.
And here is another fact: the vast majority of people have already had easier access to scientology.org than the limited number of subscribers to DirecTV (20 million in the US) — and of those only a tiny percentage is tuning into Channel 320 at any given time. As a comparison, A&E has more than 100 million subscribing households in the US as it is carried on ALL cable providers as well as DirecTV and DishTV. Scientology loves to make fun of the fact that The Aftermath has “bad ratings” with 2 to 3 million viewers a week. You do the math on how many people might be watching CSN shows. If it cracks thousands I would be surprised. More likely to be hundreds.
Here is another fact: people don’t go to TV when they are “curious”, they go to the internet. They are not reaching new curious people on a TV channel like this. Curious people use Google. The old saying “Google is your friend” is absolutely untrue when it comes to scientology, no matter how many paid ads they run at the top of Google search term results.
With all that said, here is the latest from the bubble. More delusions of grandeur. Somehow they’ve got the idea they can convince DishTV (14 million subscribers) to also carry the CSN. Hahaha. Based on “viewer demand”? ROFL. I am reasonably confident scientology tried to buy their way onto the cable carriers as well as Dish and the only taker was DirecTV. I would bet DirecTV has a lot more negative feedback to the CSN than positive.
Even the notion that there are enough scientologists in the US to have any impact on even a relatively small carrier is ludicrous.
From: Lynn Harrill [mailto:lynn91208@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018
To: YOU
Subject: To All DishTV customers – request The Scientology Network
It is so exciting to have the Scientology Network up and running.
Unfortunately, it’s not being carried on DishTv.
I wrote to DishTv as a customer and requested they add the channel, and received a very encouraging email back basically stating that when they got a lot of requests, they will add the channel. She said they did that with one of the Hallmark channels.
So, I need your help to make this happen. If you are a DishTv customer (and maybe if you aren’t), write to them requesting the Scientology Network. The sooner they get enough requests, the sooner it will be on my channel line-up.
Thanks
Lynn Harrill
Reminds me of the idiot who called for people to go into their Target stores and demand they stop selling People magazine because Leah Remini was on the cover.
What planet are these people on?
And finally, there is this.
Scientology is targeting their OWN PUBLIC to watch their propaganda. This is NOT “disseminating” to anyone.
It’s more of the chronic scientology disease of selling their own bs to themselves.
In the “universe” of scientology network websites it seems David Miscavige qualifies for his own special website alongside L. Ron Hubbard. How daring… The takeover appears complete. It’s only fair I suppose. Miscavige HAS run scientology for longer than Hubbard… It’s really his baby now.
Also interesting the “non-religious” moral code that is under the auspices of ABLE gets a listing, but Narconon.org is left out? So too Applied Scholastics?
The mysterious world through the scientology looking glass never ceases to entertain.
If it weren’t so sad, it’d be funny as hell.
Hey guys. “Throw up warning.” If you just ate, you might want to watch this later. But, for the strong stomached of you, I found it fascinating to watch “little Hitler” in his first video, introducing the Scn channel.
What’s so interesting to me is the similarity to Chicago gangster types, who talk nice about your family and ask how everyone is, about how beautiful his family is and how legitimate his business is, all the while putting out the vibe that, if you don’t believe every word he says, he’ll have “the boys” come in and rub out all a yous except for one, so that the one can tell the story of how no one should mess with “little Hitler”.
And hasn’t he gotten so much older? No longer the Golden Boy. Overts have a certain effect on a person, especially big ones like his. Probably the only thing big about him. Anyway, I digress. Here he is…
https://www.scientology.org/scientology-today/events/scientology-network.html#slide1
Hahahaha all this intro video proves is that Miscarriage is a white walker ???
I watched on day 1 out of curiosity. It’s nothing but 24/7 infomercial! Pathetic!
DishTV is sold through Costco in our area, but I have DirecTV primarily because it carries our local professional sports teams, so not only do I get the new Scn channel, but the Scn channel is advertised on other channels. At first it was a shock everytime it came up. Now, its…meh. Thanks for doing this, David M. It has resolved any and all curiosity I had. Consider it mission accomplished!
CSN is advertising on the radio in California. Using a deep voiced radio announcer to sound legitimate. Reminds me of that song, blowing in the wind, you know the one. Except all that is blowing in the wind is COB’s ill-gotten money for advertising towards a lost cause. I’m going to call it: The Last Stand
The Last Stand.. Will COB be able to fill the church coffers and restaff the dwindling spiral of old staff members exteriorizing? .. I know, it sounds like the goofy beginning to an LRH novel, wouldn’t be funnier if that were true however.
Great article, Mike.
Like Wynski said,DISH TV mainly serves rural areas (that don’t have reliable or inexpensive Internet or television access). DISH TV is going out fast, though, as Internet providers are hooking up rural areas and offering far better program access for a lot less expense. Then there are all the better television ears, besides, and just about everyone has a cell phone.
I’ve watched neighbor after neighbor here in Tennessee dump their cable networks as soon as their rates went up or they had trouble accessing and opt out for some good rabbit ears and Internet networks like HBO instead. Many just get monthly passes to go to the movies and otherwise watch the local network news on their phones. These are country folks I’m talking about, and they are sick of the violent programming, commercials and crap on television. Also, when you’re talking about rural USA, you are talking about people who are mostly Christians. They hate Scientology. They think of it as a satanic cult and they ALL heard of it. They are not curious about it, not a bit. They’d rather go to the movies (there’s really good movie pass deals now) or rent movies of their choice from a corner kiosk than mess around with crappy broadband channels and networks. That’s what they do. Oh, and they exclusively watch Christian recommended movies and shows, btw.
Rural USA is literally shutting out what they see as “noise.” A Scientology channel is one more reason for them to leave and to call in complaints. Some will, you can be sure of that. The Church of Scamology got scammed big.
“…people who are mostly Christians. They hate Scientology. They think of it as a Satanic cult and ALL heard of it.”
This is truly heartening news from a grass roots source! From someone who lives in a rural area where people are strongly Christian. Because Christian LEADERS do NOT speak out against Scientology. Its good to hear YOUR take on the what you say is the actual viewpoint of Christians in your area regarding Scientology, Sheila.
Thanks, Aquamarine. 🙂
I’ve attended a few Christian churches out here. You’re right, they don’t specifically speak against Scientology, but they all say plenty about evil influences, false Gods, the lies of the world and controlling children’s exposure to television and media so they’re not led astray. That’s the basic theme and it’s repeated a lot.
What surprised me was was how many don’t even bother with television or much Internet media. They go to the movies instead. For $20/month, it’s a good deal and a nice way to socialize. Our movie theatres are packed, which is nice to see, actually. Hollywood better get in gear with better family movies!
They’re no fools when it comes to the facts about drug addiction, either, and local churches sponsor their own addiction counseling (not rehab centers) and advocate professional counseling as well.
Nashville’s center is empty. Tourists and journalists drive or walk by and take photos of it all the time because it’s well, a freaky cult! ha So who wants to be seen walking in there? Atlanta’s “ideal org” scares the hell out of the locals. It stands out on the street, doesn’t blend, doesn’t look like it belongs there and gives the impression you’ll be isolated in a creepy way or kidnapped if you step through the doors. That impression is fitting enough.
DM the television and media mogul, lol. What a joke.
Aqua, I’ve been in church where the leader spoke out against scamology as being from Satan. They speak to THEIR flock. They don’t go on general air waves to do it. You are maybe thinking of the Televangelists (who are NOT held by the majority of Christians as leaders).
The REAL leaders are the local ministers. Non-Christians only know what seeps onto national TV.
Well, this is good news too, Wynski. Encouraging, certainly. So possibly, with enough media message emanating and with the albeit quiet Christian support there will be a connection between the loud media message and the support that’s already there, and then – fast forward and cut to the chaise: “Say Goodnight, David”.
A friend of mine who was once as in as a person could be, ceremoniously burned every Scientology book she owned when she left and went back to her Catholic roots.
One day, we were talking about Scientology and she said, “God won’t let you into heaven if you still believe anything about Scientology”. Of course that pissed me off because who the hell is she to say – lol – but, my point in telling this is that, in private conversations, that’s what some religious people tell each other. So it’s not what they say on the pulpit, but what they say in the comfort of their own homes that is the most telling.
Mike, although not unexpected, this is pretty bad from a content standpoint.
And I mean laughably bad. As Scientology has become increasingly introspective and with fewer and fewer insiders and senior Sea Org executives with much in the way of any significant wog experience, they have regressed in their ability to communicate to wogs in any sort of non-creepy way. Just compare this to Jeff Hawkins’ Dianetics campaign of a generation ago.
Will there eventually be shiteous talk shows w/ testimonials and tears?
CBN makes a killing doing that.
They can offer up various items for “donations” – for a mere $5000 you are listed as a scio ____ and “we’ll send you a genuine 1/2 x 1/2 inch swatch of cloth – from one of the shirts actually worn by LRH w a certificate of authenticity.”
No?
How about for $10,000 then?
We have in this grape jelly jar, an actual tooth from the gums of L. Ron Hubbard. Yes, Ron lost this tooth chewing on an ancient Kool menthol cig in 1978. And it can be YOURS!!!! Let the bidding begin at $25,000 … and yes, all the proceeds go towards COB’S new holiday villa in Hawaii … I mean … PLANETARY DISSEMINATION!!!! … LuAnn, cut out that Hawaii line, ok? … What????? It went out LIVE????!!!! Shit! Get me my travel agent …
Mike you make an excellent point! Thinking back over the past 35 years in addition to Super Power there were many many things promoted to bring in tons of public. From my recollection the only thing that seemed to bring in some more public was the DMSMH campaign that Jeff Hawkins did. Well that of course was before the internet. I think these days Scientology has reached a point where they would have to pay people to go on course in order to fill the course rooms!
I wonder what ever happened to the practice of issuing amnesties. There’s been none since Miscarriage came to power. Wonder why. If the cult truly wanted to save mankind and flood people in (of back in) I’d think that would be a great tool.
Not without a significant drop in prices. And Miscavige will never do that. He always needs to see huge donations and highly priced courses. I see it dribbling away as the Whales back/die off and the bad publicity continues.
Peter, you could drop the prices to ZERO and no one would flood back in.
People aren’t that stupid.
Glenn, there was an amnesty after the IRS “win”. At least the Org sent a letter to me stating there was one at the time.
I still think that Jeff Hawkins” “Know Yourself, Know Life” is a SUPERB slogan. Not to gush because he’s one of us, either. Its just good, that’s all.
” So, I need your help to make this happen. If you are a DishTv customer (and maybe if you aren’t), write to them requesting the Scientology Network. The sooner they get enough requests, the sooner it will be on my channel line-up.
Thanks
Lynn Harrill”
Dear Lynn,
Great advice. I’ll be writing to them to let them know the truth about your cult. Don’t expect to see Dish TV on your channel line up ……………… ever!
Your favorite Ess Pee,
And here’s another Nuke From Newc comin’ atcha ladees an gennelmen…
I have DirecTV but unfortunately they do not show Channel 320 in my area. I wish I could watch just for a good laugh
Go to youtube – they stream the channel there.
https://www.scientology.tv/
Thanks I watched a few minutes, pure 100% boredom.
You weren’t expecting anything else, were you?
Is that channel replacing the RPF? Watching it is surely punishment.
Dear God. I wish I hadn’t clicked. They had a ‘show” droning on about their printing press technology from the eighties like it was something we should all be in awe of! Delusional idiots.
Personally, I’m very happy they’re spending the money. And spending and spending and spending. The channel is the perfect explanatory description of “pissing UP a rope!”
I find it very interesting that they want you to hand over your email address and anything else you have going on the Internet. For everyone who does this prepare yourself for years of scientolog junk to be heading your way. I feel like writing Spectrum cable to request they ignore any scientology request to be added to their lineup
I took a peek at the online tv stream (live) as well as the FB SNW page.
Online stream: about practicing something. They went over the same comment 10 times repeating the same thing over and over. The voice was hypnotic like. The site itself looks professional. They have a watermark in the right corner of the video playing of The Way To Happiness which I think helps raise awareness of their “corporate brands” and if someone wondered whether or not TWTH was a scientology company they would see it immediately.
The FB SNW page won’t let you see comments (there were three there and when I clicked to see them they would not appear). There are a LOT of photos of David M there. As someone that knows about photoshop it is super obvious the photos have been enhanced to make his eyes extremely blue. IMO a little TOO much. He is trying too hard to appear friendly. I didn’t look for videos of him “in action” but I don’t think there is actual footage anywhere of him being kind, friendly, humble or courteous. My memory is of him being like an High Falutin’ Ruler packed with power, influence, force and superiority.
Also IMO there is nothing to worry about with their recent moves…they do not have policy to guide them on what to do to handle the internet, run a tv station (or any broad cast like it) that I’ve ever heard of. They will march straight into the dead-end alleyway crushing each other while pushing harder and harder on that brick wall.
Those of us that are “out” could focus on practicing kindness in their fields of influence and I think that will help the people trapped in GET OUT knowing they can approach any of us and feel safe. I have had people ask me about the facts/fiction they were seeing as well as worrying about extended family being approached by scientology (wanted and unwanted) as well as their “front groups” participating in community events (like CC Int having a Nerve Assist booth at a race in LA collecting personal information and leading people that just ran 50K to think they were going to get a post-race massage).
Despite the broad coverage from both Leah/Mike’s show and scientology’s attempts…I think people (in general) are just so busy and they aren’t LOOKING for info so they don’t know who to believe.
” My memory is of him being like an High Falutin’ Ruler packed with power, influence, force and superiority.” Superb perception. And he dare not lower his guard. After all this time, can anyone imagine him being remotely “kind”???
Mike wrote: “Also interesting the “non-religious” moral code that is under the auspices of ABLE gets a listing, but Narconon.org is left out? So too Applied Scholastics?”
Even more compelling, hundreds of other sites were left out as well. Often, they start with “whois…” and offer much more poignant perspective on where the cult’s head is at than the regurgitated propagandomercials on the CSN.
Love “propogandomercials”! A new word clear for those few still in. 🙂
I don’t have DishTV, just a regular cable with lots of channels including A&E which had Leah and Mike’s documentary, and the History Channel which had a show about America’s Book of Secrets and Scientology. Another thing I did watch regarding Scientology was on The Travel Channel. It has a show called Ghost Adventures. They did a show about The Secret Scientology Lab in Casa de Rosas. Was a creepy show and not flattering at all to LRH.
If it was available I might be tempted to check out the S N but for nothing more than to be happy I was never exposed to it personally.
last night a friend called to report on the scio TV. he and his wife, a retired psychologist, watched the ‘industry of death’ and he said: “Really slick presentation. Enough truth to string you along. professionally done. when it was finished we sorta looked at each other for a minute…………….. and burst out laughing”.
I was a bit surprised that they even watched. Some 15 years back I dissuaded them from fronting $30K for their drug kid to go to narconon in Seattle. The kicker was when I told them that the kid would have to disconnect from them since mom was a psychologist. Plus I pointed out deaths due to lack of professional medical care.
As you wrote: Even with a fresh coat of lipstick, a pig is still a pig.
Please do not denigrate pigs! They are very smart critters and would never show up for an intro lecture!!!
You beat me to the pig defense, Peter 🙂
Jim, no worries, we get it, but to acquire the sensibility of a pig would be an extremely challenging goal for Miscavige. Pretty much straight up and vertical from his current state!
Aqua, I may have “beat” you to it, but your comment was both spot on and funny!
The extent to which Scientology is trying to act as if reality is what they wish it was than what it actually is, is getting pretty bizarre.
Scientology is having to pay somewhere between $4 million per month and $4 million per year (both have been reported, and the truth may be in between) to DirecTV for former use of an infomercial channel. I wouldn’t expect that a scientologist would send out an e-mail without approval from someone in a position of authority, and I can’t imagine who in Scientology would expect that other networks would just give them a channel. Or perhaps it’s an indication of how unaware members and the lower echelons of Scientology are, about the reality of how the CofS actually got the TV channel.
From what I can tell, the majority of content on ScnTV is just compilations of old videos explaining the basics of the “tech” suitable for public audience, plus old documentaries about psychs and drugs, played over and over. I would think that any scientologist who watched the channel would quickly become bored, and probably also disappointed, particularly since they were apparently lead to believe it was going to be something like a new approach to “dissemination” and might also offer something for members themselves.
I am wondering how long it will take for any of them to notice there isn’t much in the way of new content. Like you said, it seems to be mostly old stuff mixed with a few new things. They have seen the old stuff a million times and probably have hundreds of DVD’s on hand of it too. Heck, I am a never in and have seen most of it already!! Wake up folks!
Mike, this alone is enough to shake the bedrocks of steadfast cult members.
ScnTV is a total fail. Scientology has an unfixable PR disaster on their hands.
Nuff said.
Super Power was always touted as THE THING that was going to handle Scn and the planet and be the biggest, most bestest, most perfectly bestest thing in the world and that the floodgates would open and people would rush in after Super Power. Well, that didn’t happen. And people who donated large sums to Super Power were given the first auditing on each thing as preferential treatment. Funny, but you don’t hear any of those first people raving about Super Power. I don’t think I see many SP completons at all in their publications. So that was a fail. And now the TV channel which is supposed to turn things around is an epic fail too. The desperation is palpable.
and for the Fully In…. there are no “outpoints” to anything scn does… so easily does it all just come to me –
Comm Lags : “we just need to keep broadcasting, you know how long a comm lag can be, these silly wogs just need time for it to sink in, comm lags can be years, why, just look here to what LRH says about the length of comm lag….”
Number of Times Over: it’ll sink in, wogs need to just keep viewing and after X number of views they’ll just “pop!” and say, “of course” and come in
Padding stats, padding photos, filling the org with the same 35 old old public to have “viewing parties” and so on, all of this will magically make it happen. The appearance will lure the public in and then they’ll cognite on the truth that is scn.. in the meantime, “we’re all getting revitalized just by watching! Such a WIN!!”
……
Thanks for all of this stuff, Mike.
I am watching the live stream on YouTube now. Its HILARIOUS! Do they think this content is taken seriously by anyone? lol I am watching an infomercial on Narconon right now….and the way they portray “addicts” in these fake recreations is funny as hell. People at large are smart, and they know exactly what the score is. Scientology has now given people a 24 hour / 365 chance to turn in and have a laugh at their shit. The irony!
It really is funny! Especially when we talk about Body Thetans!
Most people have misunderstandings about drug addicts, but Scientology is way off the mark. So off as to be comical. Kinda like a mix of Reefer Madness stereotypes and after school special level drama.
It’s basically the best footbullet ever…
If some poor person actually gets curious about scientology (presumably because they are stuck home with the flu and drank 8x the recommended amount of cough syrup in a 4-hour period or something because otherwise… WHY?) and thinks, “hey, that sounds kinda rad”, what’s the first thing they’re going to do to find a location in the age of no paper phone books?
Google.
The ultimate foot bullet?
One can hope!
Might be the penultimate though (no burl-wood pen puns intended).
A story on CoS’s new channel and my husband:
My household has DirecTV. While I have followed CoS for years (though never a member) my husband has not. He knows of my interest and did attend with me a stop on TUBML book tour however, he is not at my level of interest you could say. He also watched several of the Aftermath shows with me.
A day or two after the channel launched he came up from his man cave and asked if I knew about the channel. I replied along with a stream of info of how long it was in the works and the like.
He said he tried to watch it and after about 5 minutes he couldn’t tolerate it any more. His description was, “It’s B.S. infomercials. But boring infomercials. I could watch the Magic Bullet or the George Foreman Grill. Hell, even Mr. T’s convection oven was at least bad entertainment in a good way.”
“…the George Foreman Grill. Hell, even Mr. T’s convection oven..” Laughter!
Wow. I don’t get it. If every scientologist in the world watched channel 320 what would that accomplish?
Scientology TV is just so damn dumb – and boring. “Vacuous” is the word that comes to mind that describes miscavige’s promises, his buildings and now his new TV show. If he weren’t so cruel, none of it would matter.
Yes, great descriptive word Mary. Vacuous TV show.
Miscavige is cruel and his evil streaks have served him well in destroying all the checks and balances of Scientology (i.e. sending the senior execs to hole or RPF, etc..) so he could replace LRH as the dictator. But, the general public, media and government agencies have realized that he lacks any charity, good will or charisma and his following has all but evaporated while his enemies are growing exponentially. This trend will continue unabated. His legacy will only be a footnote in history: a cruel little man that got stepped on…..
can you imagine…? I never had time to watch TV while on staff or on course while working wog jobs – the last thing I’d want to do is to spend any amount of time watching this stuff to “help get the viewer ratings up”.
It’s like when we all had to do the STCC three times when it came out. You just know that people are being made to watch it. My phone keeps ringing with the org and the viewing parties.
After the initial push and PR hype, what will the viewer stats be in a few months?
🙂
Watch for Dave to make a big purchase of new Tee Vees to stock up the International Association of Suckers registrar offices. They will be on 24/7 to get the ratings up to say nothing of the non stop, round the clock regging of the cherches last desperate cling-ons.
Yo Dave,
I expect yer IAS reg centers to be literal hives of activity these days good buddy. After a few all night reg sessions I bet Your still-innies can’t tell whether they are sucking or blowing much less trying to understand the significance of yer SuMP as it relates to the clearing of Your sector of Your universe.
Hey Wingnut, I’ve got an idea for ya. Why not have yer extension courses on Tee Vee. A clam could listen to yer drivel on the tube, then log in online and take a test and then You could send out an online ‘Commendation’ along with a ‘lose your family and friends for free card’. Whadayathink Dave?
Weeks? 🙂
Hey Mary,
Here is our perfect excuse for:
When the reg calls,
When the course sup calls,
When the Director Of Processing calls,
When the ethics officer calls,…………
OH! So sorry! Can’t come in right now!! Busy watching $iento TV like 24/7!!!! It’s so awesome!!! I’m so keyed-out by it!!!!!!! It’s a cognition a minute!! Just WOW!! COB has finally done it!!!!!!!!!! Send him “”ML”” from our family!!!!!!!!
Mike, have you had a chance to see some of the gloating on Scientology Facebook? Some pretty extra “do you really believe that?” content.
No I am blocked. Have to rely on readers forwarding me the idiocy.
“…forwarding me the idiocy.” Mike, now that’s some funny shit!
You are a lucky man Mike Rinder!
The scientology Facebook page is dead. I have noticed some good stuff posted in the past but it gets deleted quickly. If not deleted, the negative would likely outnumber the positive by hundreds to one. Even the local “Org” Facebook pages are dead, or at least those I have checked. I see zero active discussion anywhere. There are some “likes” here and there but nothing that signifies any excitement to me. I followed a few families from one single church (not scientology) that traveled overseas last year. The work they were doing resulted in hundreds of comments every few days and a lot of local interaction by people that didn’t go. Even my local landscape company has more Facebook interaction than the main scientology page. The COS’s existence looks bleak.
“If you are a DishTv customer write to them requesting the Scientology Network.”
Based on the # of active scamologists in the US and the # of DishTV subscribers, the # of scamology subscribers is at MOST ~233.
There are probably less than 233 because DishTV serves more rural areas and scamologists tend to live closer to the ‘burbs & city areas.
Wynski, those numbers seemed just too low to me.
So I ran numbers a couple of different ways, and didn’t get anything much different – maybe, just maybe, a hundred more than that. Now of course a subscribing household has an average of 2-3 members, so the number of individual scientologists who get DishTV (or DirectTV that ScnTV is on, which has a subscriber base about half again as large) could be between 500 and 1,000, which makes a bit more sense to me viewd that way.
None of the numbers I’m seeing are good for Scientology. You may have noticed my calculation that probably 5% or less of the US population lives within convenient driving distance of an org, so even if ScnTV got 20 people interested, they might only have only 1 make it down to an org.
Hi Peacemaker. I first used the multiplier of 3 to the total # of subscribers but decided on using 1 (per household) to account for an active scamologist most likely living close to a city (where an org is) and thus NOT being in the geographic area where they would need DishTV as they have cable laid in their area.
But as you found, it’s too small a number to ever sway the programming choices.