Someone sent me this email that was circulated after the original Truth Rundown series in the St Petersburg Times in 2009.
That series was a massive expose — the first major media to lay out the story of the physical and mental abuse meted out by David Miscavige, the existence of The Hole and much more.
It was carefully researched and meticulously fact checked and documented. It has stood the test of time as much of what is contained in this series has been subsequently reconfirmed, especially in the court testimony of Debbie Cook, but also in numerous other stories.
The church threatened the St Pete Times. They sent volumes of legal letters. They dumped truckloads of documents on the reporters and insisted on having “meetings” where a dozen people cajoled and yelled and generally sought to intimidate the reporters. They did not back down, but the church did.
After numerous threats pre-publication, scientology did not sue the St Pete Times. Or any of the people who were the main sources for the article. Or any of the subsequent media stories.
They did publish a Freedom magazine that resulted in many people leaving the church. That magazine ended up being such an embarrassment it was withdrawn from their website and today it is a collector’s item. It was bizarre conspiracy theory stuff and it was especially weird because none of the people who appeared in the paper were named in the Freedom Mag, thus Mark “Marty” Rathbun became “the Kingpin” and I was only referred to as the “Fact Checker,” Amy Scobee was the “Adultress” and Tom DeVocht the “ConMan.” Of course, this resulted in many people wondering what the hell this was about and who these people were and then reading the SPT stories to find out…. It was a massive footbullet.
This email below was circulated to scientologists as an internal “PR handling” to address the SP Times series a month or so later. It has a familiar ring to it to those who have seen the scientology responses to Lawrence Wright’s original piece about Paul Haggis in the New Yorker, or his subsequent book or the insane reactions to Going Clear. The familiarity is not just from the wild conspiracy theories and hamfisted “dead agenting” but the ridiculous hype about how incredibly wonderful scientology is doing, expanding like never before.
I have highlighted some of the more bizarre statements in this email. And if you think this is just the writing of some random crackpot, it is not. This email was sent by an MAA at an org to “handle” one of their VIP public.
Perhaps the single most significant statement in it is the admission that “the material in the dead agent pack was compiled from the PC folders…” Clearly the author didn’t think that strange, he is in fact quite proud of it. Just as many of us have stated to the media.
Yet in public statements, the church vehemently and repeatedly denies this.
And as a second treat, it also includes a link to a lunatic rant by Tommy Davis, the former scientology “spokesperson” who “took over from me.” I think Miscavige made Tommy Watch Tom Cruise doing “You can’t handle the truth” over and over until he could sound just like a Cruise impersonator in order to “impinge” on the Times reporters. It is one of the more bizarre media presentations ever caught on tape (regardless of the veracity of his claims — he clearly admits that scientology senior management is a violent, insane world, he just wants to blame it all on Marty Rathbun rather than David Miscavige. Though that is a bald-faced lie, it doesnt make Miscavige look good that this was all going on under his nose).
Realize, as insane as you will think this email is, it is the same sort of dreck that is being fed to the internal scientology public to attempt to combat the fallout of Going Clear. It is a pretty good gauge of the level of brainwashing inside the scientology bubble that the recipients didn’t treat this as be certain it a late April Fool’s joke at best and the ramblings of a mentally deranged person at worst.
From: Xxxxx
Date: July 22, 2009 9:46:04 PM PDT
Subject: Suppression shattered – big win
SUPPRESSION SHATTERED: A SUCCESS STORY
The following data were not published so far, as early release would have been very entheta. But now we have shattered suppression, and dealt an effective blow to SPs as well as all cowardly organizations hiding behind their backs.
This as big a Win as the 1993 IRS tax exemption win!
Maybe you have heard about the attack by the St. Petersburg Times (a newspaper financed by pharmaceutical companies and psychs), which recently tried to smear the Church of Scientology and especially David Miscavige, COB RTC, personally. False and invented charges were made against Mr. Miscavige. Four SPs were interviewed by the publication. They had infiltrated Int Management in Hemet, California (where Golden Era Productions and RTC are located), and worked with Mr. Miscavige personally. They were probably financed by pharmaceutical companies & psychs when they first joined the Sea Org, in order to suppress the Church from inside by wasting funds and crashing stats. Their purpose was to get rid of David Miscavige and seize power for themselves and their masters.
They are:
– Mark C. “Marty” Rathbun SP and Sea Org member from 1977-2005; former RTC Inspector General for Ethics and auditor of Tom Cruise.
– Mike Rinder SP and Sea Org member from 1974-2007; former director of Church of Scientology International and Executive Director of OSA Int. (Thomas W. “Tommy” Davis holds this post now).
– Amy Scobee SP and Sea Org member from 1978-2005; held various Int Management positions.
– Tom De Vocht SP and Sea Org member from 1977-2005; was F/CO (deputy exec director) FSO in Clearwater before arriving at Hemet.
The following baseless and laughable accusations were made:
– David Miscavige was involved in Lisa McPherson’s case supervision and death.
– David Miscavige beats staff members.
– David Miscavige forced Int Management to play musical chairs all night as a condition of remaining on post.
– LRH did not put David Miscavige in charge, but David Mayo, and Pat and Annie Broeker.
– David Miscavige holds Int Management staff incommunicado in Hemet, California in the so-called SP Hall or The Hole.
These baseless charges were published without giving COB any chance to answer those earth-shattering lies.
We have fully handled the situation, and struck a blow of monumental proportions to the psychs.
Norman Starkey, Tommy Davis, Marc Yager, Guillaume Lesevre, Mark Ingber, Ray Mithoff — all from Int Management — have personally refuted all the charges and told the reporters that these 4 SPs were beating others. To fill the vacuum, they gave theta news on David Miscavige and the Church.
The ex-wives of de Vocht, Rathbun and Rinder dutifully told the reporters that their ex-husbands were all negligent bullies.
Here is a video of Tommy Davis telling it like it is to the St Petersberg Times.
http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/church-response.shtml
And then we completely shattered suppression by handing over a cross-referenced binder of documents. They had no choice but to publish it. The material in the dead agent pack was compiled from the PC folders, confessionals, Sec Checks and O/W writeups of the four SPs. It became crystal clear that these criminals were accusing others with crimes they committed.
Marty (Mark) Rathbun
April 19, 1994: Communication. “While I didn’t spread any lies about you directly, it did become manifest to me that my actions over the past year have potentially created black PR on you. … To me, worse than all the shortcomings and overt acts and their effects, is the potential effect they had of tarnishing your image and presence and power. I say ‘potential’ only because I think it would be presumptuous of me to suggest I could do any real harm to you. … I did want you to know that I have never regretted anything as deeply as I regret having betrayed you.”
2001: Statement. Rathbun confesses to physical and degrading attacks. “In May 2001 I grabbed Yager by the shirt and lifted him into a wall when he got caught out on outright false reporting to COB as I recall…. In April or May 2001, Guillaume gave me some 1.1 backflash and I threw him across a table…. On about 25 occasions I severely ripped into (name blacked out)…. I called her a ‘f—— c—‘ and a ‘suppressive b—-,’ and a ‘black PR infested criminal’…. I ordered her to Ethics on about 8 occasions to get her overts, withholds, BPR and evil purposes handled in lieu of cramming orders.”
Dec. 8, 2001: Suppressive Person Declaration. Referring to himself as “Marty,” Rathbun said he had harmed and undermined colleagues. “Marty took advantage of a number of false reports he had put in place over years giving a false picture as to his role in handling external attacks and the IRS in particular.” “Marty then engaged in a campaign to covertly and systematically take out and undermine any executive or staff who might expose him. He did this through abusing his privilege to act as a security checker…. He began the out-tech practice of sec checking people with no formal session set up, and brow beating hair-raising confessions out of them.”
Sept. 28, 2003: Public Announcement. Rathbun wrote: “I have developed a slick false PR technique of positioning myself as having been integral in handling threats during and after the fact, when they are actually terminatedly handled by COB. By calculation I have lost the Church 43 million dollars on losses and expenses that could have been avoided….” Miscavige “has single-handedly salvaged Scientology from potential external ruin … Had he not been here and done what he has, Scientology would have been lost….” Rathbun writes that had he not wasted so much of the leader’s time, “Scientology would be so big not a dime would have to be diverted to defence because no one would dream of fooling with it, and we would be very well on the way to a clear planet.” “The motivation for these acts are a psychotic computation for self- preservation: keep enough chaos and threat stirred up in the environment, make myself appear to be a solution to it instead of the instigator of it, and lots of people go down and remain in turmoil while I go unrecognised as the source of it and survive.” “I recognize my actions have been unfounded and ignorant and destructive in the extreme.”
Mike Rinder
He wrote an Admission to Miscavige in which he said he lied 43 times over the years.
February 2005: Apology. “Dear Sir, I owe you something way beyond and, in addition to an apology, my gratitude for saving my life. Your insistence for months and years that I get straight is the only thing that has actually brought me to my senses. Several times in the past I
pretended to myself, you and others that I had confronted my out ethics and gotten myself handled. It was not true.”
June 4, 2005: Announcement. “I recognize very clearly how Treasonous I have been towards you and Scientology. This comm. is to inform you of my Step B and Doubt Announcement. The announcement is to go to ‘persons directly influenced’ and that is most definitely you. Your insistence that I get straight is what made me confront my suppressive acts. I know that when you say something it is true and it is what has kept me going….”
Amy Scobee
Scobee violated rules on “romantic involvement outside marriage.”
Jan. 16, 2005: Reasons for leaving. “I have constantly been in ethics trouble,” Scobee writes, to the point that she has become a “distraction to the group.”
Jan. 22, 2005: Specifics on 2D activity. In graphic detail, Scobee outlines everything from “holding hands” to back rubs that “evolved into full out 2D” and the time “we were in the C/S office and had sex.”
Tom de Vocht
July 20, 2004: Treason report. De Vocht writes that he blew a land deal in Clearwater that not only cost the church $1 million, it wasted the time of the Chairman of the Board — Miscavige — cleaning up De Vocht’s mess.
These four heads on a pike serve as a warning to other SPs who may be contemplating speaking out. They will be shuddered into silence.
But, these are not the first SPs who infiltrated the Church and tried to destroy it.
Here are some historical facts:
L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. (Ronald Edward DeWolf, aka Nibs Hubbard) — LRH’s eldest son — accused Scientology of being a money-making scam. The truth came out in 1986 when he recanted his baseless accusation.
Geoffrey Quentin McCaully Hubbard (child of LRH and third wife, Mary Sue Hubbard). Psychs accused the Church of Scientology of having goaded the 22-year-old Quentin into suicide. Mary Sue Hubbard claimed Quentin had died of encephalitis. [WTF IS THIS??? Saying he was a plant?]
Mary Sue Hubbard (LRH’s third wife) The psychs managed to get her unjustly sentenced to jail in 1979 with other Guardian Office execs, including Jane Kember. The truth has since been revealed.
David Mayo (Senior C/S Flag, LRH’s auditor, staff member from 1958-1983) David Mayo was secretly allied with the psychs and pharmaceutical companies, and became a squirrel. After LRH left his body, Mayo claimed he helped to develop NOTs (OT V – VII). He dared to claim that LRH assigned him to be the top technical person and continue his research. After Mayo was declared as an SP, he opened squirrel Advanced Ability Centers. David Miscavige crushed each and every one of those squirrel AACs. Finally, David Mayo retracted his statements and ceased his squirrel actions.
Jesse Prince (Deputy Inspector General External and Sea Org member from 1976-1992) A black man, Prince claimed that David Miscavige is a racist. Naturally we don’t hear much about him lately.
Gerry Armstrong (Sea org member) He was assigned to organize some personal papers of LRH that were to serve as the basis of a new biography of LRH. Omar Garrison, a non-Scientologist, had been hired to write the book. As part of his assignment, Armstrong also requested Hubbard’s war records from the Navy and his transcripts from George Washington University. While reviewing these documents, both Armstrong and Garrison — in accord with the psychs — said many of the claims Hubbard made about himself were completely at odds with all other evidence: Hubbard had not graduated from George Washington Universtiy as a nuclear physicist, but attended for only two years, failed his only class in physics, and left without graduating. Hubbard’s Navy record showed no promotion to Commander of Corvettes in the North Pacific, but only to Lieutenant. When it was found out that Armstrong lied, he escaped to Canada and later to the homeland of all psychs, Germany.
Jon Atack (Sea Org member: 1974 -1983) In September 1983 Atack made a decision to join the psychs. He said he was unhappy with Scientology’s new “tough” and “ruthless” management, the 15-fold increase in training fees, and that he was “unwilling to have his communication controlled and his freedom of association denied.” He began personally investigating the Church of Scientology. Atack assembled a large collection of Scientology- and Hubbard- related materials, interviewed more than a hundred former members (including a number of former Hubbard aides) and read thousands of pages of Scientology-related court rulings, government enquiry reports, affidavits and sworn testimony. His research culminated in 1990 with the publication of his book, A Piece of Blue Sky, a history of Hubbard and his organizations. Naturally all of his baseless false claims disappear in the light of Truth.
Jon Zegel (Sea Org) Jon Zegel was paid by the psychs and the pharmaceutical industry to be the first outspoken critic of Scientology to provide important, factual data to Scientologists about what was really happening inside the organization. He did so by recording audio tapes on cassette. These tapes were reproduced on home recorders, swept through “the underground” and created quite a stir. He released three tapes critical of Scientology before he came to his senses. Then he recorded a fourth tape in which he repudiated the information in the previous tapes. This was a big victory for the Church of Scientology.
Patrick (Pat) Broeker and Annie Broeker (the couple who “helped” LRH in his final years) They tried to take over Scientology when LRH had left his body. They forged a Flag Order (Flag Order 3879) that promoted them to Loyal Officers, a higher rank than that of David Miscavige. The truth was found out, and David Miscavige cancelled the forgery by issuing Flag Order 3879, Cancelled. The whole Loyal Officer fairy tale was invented by them. They were not even close to LRH.
Lisa McPherson (Clear, Scientologist) Lisa was put on the Introspection Rundown in Room 174 of the Fort Harrison Hotel (FLAG) from November 18 to December 5, 1995. On December 5, 1995, she was pronounced dead on arrival at a hospital 45 minutes north of Clearwater Florida. According to the coroner’s report, Lisa’s body was underweight, severely dehydrated, and had bruises and bug bites. Psychs and the pharmaceutical industry indicted the Church of Scientology on two felony charges: “Abuse and/or neglect of a disabled adult” and “Practising medicine without a license.” The charges against the Church of Scientology were dropped after the county medical examiner changed the cause of death from “undetermined” to an “accident” on June 13, 2000. A civil suit brought by her family against the Church was settled on May 28, 2004.
Jeff Hawkins (Sea Org) He claims that he was responsible for Dianetics’s planetary dissemination. Evidently the psychs are behind this statement.
Lawrence Woodcraft He has lied under oath that Freewinds contains blue asbestos, the most dangerous form of this carcinogen. Lawrence has written a sworn Declaration concerning his “discovery,” his attempts to alert Sea Org officers (including David Miscavige’s sister- in-law Bitty Miscavige) about the problem, and their refusal to remove it. Because of this, the material had to be removed from the Freewinds, so the Church contracted Nordica Engineering. Nordica brought in 240 Polish workers, who lived on the Freewinds for six weeks. We didn’t know that time, but these Polish workers were paid by the Psychs. When the workers told Nordica there was blue asbestos on the ship, they stopped the renovations, and the workers returned to Poland. Witold Maliñski stated that Nordica planned to demand compensation on behalf of its workers.
This is why the Freewinds was sealed, quarantined and cordoned off at a wharf in Otrobanda, Curacao, Netherlands Antilles on April 28, 2008 for a long time. But finally we issued a statement that the air quality on the Freewinds is safe, meeting standards set by the United States Occupational Safety and Health Administration. With this action, we confronted and shattered the suppression.
So this is our success story.
Since we identified the SPs at Int Management, stats are soaring to unprecedented heights.
Nine new orgs have opened since 2004, plus four smaller test centers, including those in downtown St. Petersburg and Plant City. Three ideal orgs opened this year — Dallas, Nashville and Malmo, Sweden — with five more to open before year’s end in Las Vegas, Rome, Brussels, Tel Aviv and Washington, D.C.
The new Basic Books and Tapes were re-published in 2008, with corrections of errors that had been overlooked since the 1950s.
In Clearwater, the church’s signature property, the Fort Harrison Hotel, re-opened in March 2009 after a $40 million renovation.
Carlos Rocha says
When I was issued my Comm Ev, I was the last person to see it. It was shocking because it contained information I had written up on O/W write-ups over 8 years ago! I had heard this from public, but just like everyone else, I had drank the cool-aid. I thought it was absurd! That information is confidential and no one but your auditor and C/S are allowed this information. Well, there it was for all to see. What I thought was a relief and a forgiveness of transgression was now being used against me and slapped in my face. Nothing new was found. The only new information was the lie I had stated so that I can leave! I was tired of the verbal abuse, the invalidation and no rest! This is still used today! Most recently was the Dead Agent of both Mike and Marty in response to the Going Clear HBO Documentary. On Freedom.org I saw a video that looked like actual pages from O/W write-ups. They never stated the date of the claims. They also show footage where they are being harassed on video. The video was twisting information matching the video with outdated info from past O/W write-ups! I then realized why they pay for PI’s and use Scientologist to follow ex-Scientologist around. They are trying to antagonize you so that you act violent towards them and then record it on video and add twisting information to make you seem crazy. They don’t explain what the heck they are doing at their home. They act as if they were just passing by when they were attacked. The nerve of these tactics!
http://scientology101.org/for-scientologists/current-church/confidential-pc-folders/
FOTF2012 says
These dead agent packs are hysterical. The idea that people would sneak into the church and work for decades, earning trust and sacrificing their lives, so that decades later they could “reveal” their SP nature is so laughable it should be a comedy skit.
Well, it pretty much is. The church’s reasoning is very much like that of Kramer and Jerry after Jerry lost his sneakers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwnanPuuCwk&index=84&list=PLCA1A55D4A7EBFDEB
Elaine points out how ludicrous the whole idea is.
Tara says
Perfect! LMAO
john johnson says
Fact checking the church of Scientology. http://www.npr.org/2011/02/08/133561256/the-church-of-scientology-fact-checked
john johnson says
Scientology spoof: http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2015/04/snl-spoofs-scientology-and-going
overrunincalif says
To a certain extent, it’s a matter of “which policy should we implement” On one hand you have confidentiality, on the other, fair game. There are a bunch of contradictory policies in Scientology, so, which one to follow??? If fair game trumps confidentiality, according to the terminal who is in charge, then so be it. A bit arbitrary. Like the policy that says there are no dog P.C.’s, but those who don’t make case gain are SP’s. So, which one is it? It’s the one that suits the whims of the beholder. Lord of the flies.
Friend says
It is much more complicated to understand “there are no dog preclears” .. than understanding that “no case gain is SPs” .. both are generalities about not getting expected wins from the service .. last one is easy, you have to be an SP when you do not get case gain .. but this is stupid, because a real SP would give a fake win .. very easy to do .. often seen where people gave unreal wins .. wins which they had not really have .. like “I can read everyones mind” or “I am now cause over all problems” .. best of all was always “I am now key out OT” ..
I myself did hang up on “knows he/she won’t get worse” .. something which is nearly impossible to know. It is also quite impossible to get this cognition out of ARC Straightwire .. there are lot of OTs who have shown that they have attested a lie .. they went worse .. what I mean is, I became called as SP only for not signing to this cognition or win .. it has nothing to do with being SP, but I could not have the realisation which was expected .. was unable to attest that ..
cindy says
We could make a new card game to play. It would be like Bridge only more fun. We could call it Non-Bridge (in more ways than one) and find out which policy trumps which one. One person discards the “priest penitent policy regarding auditing sessions” and the next player puts down “Fair Game” card and wins that trick. And it goes on and on. What a fun game that would be.
Ron Dolittle says
Demented Misanthrope (half possum, half man, total idiot. Yes, I know, I’m just too kind.
Jethro Bodine says
Whoever wrote this “dead agent document” is clearly semi-delusional, as only a kool-aid drinking, bubble-dwelling clubbed seal could be. It’s hard to believe that I could have believed that while I was in the bubble. For instance, who could anyone say that the organization was inflitrated by four people who worked for the organization for over 25 years, all since they were very young, and all held senior management positions. Sounds more like a career than an infiltration. It seems that when people want to believe something to give them peace of mind, they will.
Also, Tommy Davis’ responses to the SP times writers are classic footbullets, besides the fact that he repeatedly loses it and yells at the reporters – I wonder where he learned that method of “handling” someone? It’s outrageous to claim that Miscavige never beat anyone; just everybody below him was prone to violence, especially Marty Rathbun. However, even if Marty was the only person who hit anybody else, it does seem strange that it was allowed to go on for years and the police were never called.
Also, I’ll never forget when Mike Rinder’s ex-wife weirdly claimed she knew “every square inch of my husband’s body and she never saw a mark on him.” This supposedly refutes the allegation that Miscavige beat Rinder. Well, if that’s the case, then that should also exonerate Marty too.
Chee Chalker says
Jethro that is an excellent point…….Mike’s body and Tom’s body, every square inch, was scratch and bruise-free. Therefore (by Co$ logic) Marty did not touch them! Voila! Case closed, mystery solved! I only wish Anderson Cooper had thought of that response (though can’t blame him, the thought never occurred to me).
I’ve been married almost 20 years and I like to think there are square inches of my body my spouse has never seen…….at least I hope…..
Phil Hendrie says
Hi Mike,
You are a courageous guy, truly. You work for truth. For what it’s worth I’ll get your back if you ever need it
OTVIIIisGrrr8! says
We in RTC drank scotch last evening with COB. After a few bottles of the good stuff, we fully saw the brilliance of COB’s supreme cognition that Mike Rinder was sent in by the wholetrack psychs via a highly engineered “born into Scientology” caper.
COB has ordered a sweeping investigation of all persons “born into Scientology” as they too may be part of a larger Psych caper whereby reincarnation is used to bypass the Church’s otherwise flawless security checking apparatus.
We will find all of the criminals and expel them.
Tom Cruise may likely prove to be a Psych before this thing is over with.
It may even be the case that David Miscavige will remain in the Church as the one and only true Scientologist ever. We say this because even the Founder often went off post to hobbyhorse on writing outer space novels and such.
Michael Mallen says
Thank you sir. Please let me know if a fundraising briefing is planned.
threefeetback says
Grrr8!,
Is Dave still hobbyhorsing Lou?
Jere Lull (38 years recovering) says
Grrrr8:”Tom Cruise may likely prove to be a Psych before this thing is over with.” Good line!
It’s more likely that Dwarfenführer is a Psych or psych plant as he certainly is doing the SPs proud.
I Yawnalot says
Either way, spoof or not – that email is out there in the real world and apparently circulated within $cientology itself.
Bizarre just doesn’t really cut it as a descriptive word but the fact remains someone wrote it and put it out there and is now beginning read by those who frequent this site is noteworthy. I imagine most people who are unfamiliar with actual scientology will just write it off as typical insane ramblings or some such but to those who have an understanding of why scientology is called a religion, (be it true or not per your own beliefs) the fact IS, that it violates the most personal and sacred trust a being can emulate – disclosing the private conversations/confessions between priest and parishioner to the public. No motivation can justify that, NONE!
Please don’t jeer at this if you hate scientology as the sanctity and belief in trust one should have with a priest of whatever domination is precious, irrelevant of belief. Imagine if your lawyer exposed your information to the other side, your doctor told your neighbours of your disease behind your back, or your spouse rang up your boss and told him what you said about him while drunk. It sickens me that such violations are treated with a casualness by anyone. To me those that invalidate the importance of this are the real enemy and are actively contributing on the downwards scale of evil us human beings can get up to.
If life has now stooped to such a level well… here it’s prime example – $cientology as practiced by miscavige! The evidence already exists he uses priest penitent information against anyone he wishes. Amy Scobee’s previous write up confirms miscavige’s practice of violating a priest’s sacred trust for his own sick advantage.
Miscavige is an animal at best, in fact I’d trust a beast any day over the humanity of miscavige.
Any wonder why the likes of TC, JT at al are reticent – their PC folders contain their doom and miscavige knows it and is quite prepared to do whatever it takes to survive, he also revels in that sort of power, sick fuck that he is. Scientology celebrities are in the worst possible situation they could ever find themselves in and their lawyers know it.
Miscavige – don’t ever give him the benefit of the doubt – ever, he is not and has never has been your friend or a friend to anyone. He is the perfect devil’s advocate – he stole a religion for fun and profit and gets to do in as many people as he can.
Shamanarts says
the Ugly Truth….. Lucinda Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qs0R8RAbmQ
w. martin says
Ergo, its not a religion. that’s a quote from hubbard. The violation of “trust” is proof of that. Sure, its wrong. You should be incensed. that’s why its a con. Ron’s con.
From83 says
I think we need to keep in mind logic 6. And that points to that that confessions being confidential is not an absolute. If revealing a confession would stop the future rape of a child or stop a murder. I think we could all agree that it would be correct to reveal that confession. Especially, since a confession without stopping the wrongdoing is meaningless. That being said I don’t think the church would reveal confessions in those cases especially if the rapist/murder was in-ethics by being upstat! So that means that attacking the church must actually be worse then pedophilia and murder in their eyes. Which makes sense from their standard policy viewpoint. Anyone who attempts to stop the church is actively trying to take away the one glimmer of hope they have of being saved for all of eternity. Petty mortal crimes like theft, murder, rape, whole-sale genocide are meaningless in comparison.
Cat Daddy says
When you, Mike and Marty are done with Scientology, when it dies. We could need you for UNICEF
Nickname says
Or WHO (World Health Org). He’s a young man. A whole world ahead of him. If he feels like trouble-shooting, maybe he can fix Iran.
FG says
My god, this dead agent pack is a faboulous master piece of Glutz PR (Streisand effect).
Cat Daddy says
This is a very Important Post of my “bro” Mike: I thank these normal teens being teens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9nSZm_02TM
Andro Villans says
I think whoever sent this out is now in big trouble.
zana says
I agree. RPF’s RPF or worse.
Basketballjane says
Why would any of your question whether or not this email was real. Weren’t we all IN Scientology? This is probably one of the least crazy communications that I have seen come from them. In the most typical of Scientological fashion they are BRAGGING about failure that they have used adjectives to turn into success. Of COURSE THIS IS REAL. Scientology and the Sea Org believe that they are salvaging this SECTOR of the Universe. LRH didn’t even know how many fucking planets were in this sector. We don’t even know that now as we are discovering more as we learn more from the probes we send out and build more powerful telescopes.
The stable datum with Scientology, the MORE outrageous the communication the MORE truth it has. Every time.
Chee Chalker says
If these were a ‘spoof’ how did the author get the information from the PC folders? Quite the inside job if that is the case
Chee Chalker says
Not only do they admit culling the PC folders, they also admit you, Marty, Tom (and Amy to some extent) all held positions of authority in the organization. Of course, you held these positions as Psych planted conspirators, but hey…..you gotta start somewhere!
Graham says
Is it real or is it a spoof? Looks like Poe’s Law applies here. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law
sara says
If the Cult of Scientology can only lie inside and outside of their criminal organization, then they are at a very low level of creation …
Rory Medford says
Someone should write a book and call it, ” Don’t be fooled by Scientology”
Run for the Hills, avoid this dangerous cult!
Anonymous says
This needs to go viral very soon or it will not get enough signatures:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/revoke-scientologys-tax-exempt-status
jgg2012 says
That’s why David Miscavige never does any auditing. Imagine what his PC folders might contain.
Zephyr says
The ‘CRIMINAL MIND’ is at work here in more ways than one. It looks hilarious that DM/SO accept donations
from big whales like Bob Duggan, straight from pharmaceutical companies and then accuses others to be paid by pharmaca.
This write-up is so contrary to the PR series, it is pathetic!
Greta
Nickname says
The e-mail serves as a pretty accurate account of what actually happened. It’s filled with “crush” and “bust” and “stop” but says nothing about spiritual gains.
WheresShelly says
“It became crystal clear that these criminals were accusing others with crimes they committed.”
Umm..
Pot…meet kettle.
nomnom says
The fact is that they have admitted to using confidential priest/penitent material (pc and ethics folders).
From the TampaBay “The Truth Rundown”,
http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientologys-response-to-church-defectors-total-lies/1012138
“Catalog of confessions
The church prepared binders of indexed material that included confessions the defectors wrote during their time in Scientology.
A key tenet of Scientology is that an individual who admits and takes responsibility for his bad thoughts and acts feels unburdened and joyful. Church members write confessions, which go into “ethics files” that are supposed to remain secret. But to rebut the defectors’ allegations about David Miscavige, church officials took the extraordinary step of releasing excerpts from the files. In them, the defectors admit transgressions and praise the leader. The church says the files undercut the credibility of those attacking Miscavige. The defectors say the “confessions” are given under pressure, and writing them is the only way to survive inside Scientology.”
The Oracle says
“They will be shuddered into silence”. He got that part wrong. Kind of weird that an MAA outlines his evil purposes in emails to the public. But then again, with Miscavige standing on stage and admitting his purpose is to “booby trap systems” at an event, I guess anything goes…………….
cindy says
Marie and Silvia, I hear you. So true. “…if an MAA lies, the house of cards crumbles and the pain is too intense to bear.” That is true. Yet it was the MAA lying at Flag that made me have the blinding realization that HCO at Flag was corrupt. All it took was showing me the goldenrod on a veteran staff member who had blown the whistle on criminality at Flag, seeing the over the top lies, and then hearing the top HCO guy add story on top of smarmy story about things this guy had done, I thought, if he did all those bad things, then why isn’t that also in the SP Goldenrod writeup? Of course they couldn’t out it in writing because it was slander and libel and they knew it. Funny how I saw the lies and those in the bubble choose not to see the lies because as you say, if an MAA lies, the whole house of cards crumbles and that would be far too painful to bear.
Joe Pendleton says
Would Scientologists find this email completely believable?
Well … this is the group that believed LRH “dropped” a completely healthy body so that he could continue his “research” exterior.
Of course, once you believe that the agonized future of every man, woman and child on this planet depends on what you do here and now in Scientology …..
John Locke says
“Without access to the full email, including the complete (normally hidden) internet routing information, I would never say this is an authentic email from a Scientology MAA.”
I’ve seen more bizarre communications from MAA’s. What makes you believe that it isn’t real Michael Leonard Tilse?
Michael Leonard Tilse says
Without access to the full email, including the complete (normally hidden) internet routing information, I would never say this is an authentic email from a Scientology MAA.
It may have been received by the VIP. And it may have had the name and email address of an MAA at the org. And it may have been circulated by other Scientologists.
But it would have been easy to spoof the “From” information that is normally readable and the actual source in concealed in the hidden email headers that show the actual path the email took.
All it would have taken is for one Scientologist to think it was legit, copy it without the headers, and forward it to their friends and fellow Scientologists.
Even in 2009 spoofing that email to someone who didn’t really understand email headers would have been trivial.
Nickname says
The proposition that power is, how many people listen to you, is twisted. Ask Mussolini. You can get people to listen to lies, and even act on them, but that comes back in your face in a big way. Power is truth. It always has been, and it always will be. A BIG PART of the truth is goodwill. An evil man is his own greatest enemy. Terrible situation to be in.
I’ve wondered what it would feel like, or look like, to have one or two more IQ points (I often wonder if I’m missing a few here and there). Along those lines, I started wondering what it would be like to view the world with one or two more “benevolence” points. That last one seems a bit easier to get a handle on. Just view things with a little – just a little – more charity or something like that, just a little more friendly, and find some comfortable level, and try that out for a bit to see how it works. I think that’s one great lesson of Christianity, to let go of quibbles, and try to forgive just a few little things, and see how that goes. A gradient approach. It makes it easier to solve legitimate discrepancies, when one can remove hatred from the equation. LRH put it in one context, of becoming theta the solver, instead of theta the problem. Kennedy (John F.) put it in the context of doing something for one’s country, instead of expecting one’s country to do something for oneself. So the same gradient thing works for work, too. Find a little more good, a little more that one might do. Short of running out to hug jellyfish.
zemooo says
Every one of the ‘besmirched’ deserves a free beer and pizza. Ok, chicken wings too.
The email is perhaps the best research tool any clam would need to research the past. Only such research would be the center of an immediate KR from anyone clam who learned of it (family included) and then some expensive sec checks would result.
Perhaps that is the real thrust of the email, some more sec check money. If you won’t come in for your 47th purif and won’t re-re-redo the Basics, maybe you need a sec check.
CofS Exit Zone (@DatumOmNom) says
What’s the deal with the decades long accusation of being infiltrated? There’s a reoccurring pattern that seemingly began with Hubbard’s claims the first Dianetic Research Foundation in Elizabeth, NJ was infiltrated by psychs. It appears to have continued through the 1970s and early 1980s with various early executives being kicked out for being a government agent or informant. Even with early Freezone and Independent practitioners outside the church, many have kept on throwing the word “plant” around like a football in spring practice drills. A lot of those claims continue to be paraded about to this very day like the zombies in Walking Dead. And here we see the wild accusations of plants infiltrating the organization and dong all these evil deeds at the highest levels is still a go-to justification for things that shouidn’t be with the organization. Don’t they realize all these claims of plants, psych infiltrators and government agents makes it seem like everything from Ethics to Sec Checks and the RPF is completely pointless and a total failure?
Good Old Boy says
What a R6 rant. This is the mind set of Maas in every S.O. org. The inept implanters guide to clearing out any sanity someone has and replacing it with hate and stupidity.
marie guerin says
from outside it is insane.
I ran into my sister at the market , she has disconnected from me but we talked for a while. She is in the bubble in a major way , she said “and they made a documentary” and in that statement and look on her face was the victim in all the splendor of victimhood , the hurt, the sad disapproval , the belief of being wronged unjustly.
This email is typical , she would believe it and even if she had some doubts , the wall would come up , if an MAA lies the house of cards crumbles and the pain too intense to bear.
zana says
I have seen that “wall” go up on some very intelligent people…people whom I cared for greatly. Thought they would be “family” forever. That wall does not let anything in….the pain of waisting their lives…all that time and all those resources would be too much. Plus… the pain of knowing that they had brought others into that nest of vipers to get their lives helped a little bit and then completely destroyed….that is a lot to bear for someone who has been in a long time.
From83 says
I feel the only thing one can do in for people who can’t admit to being wrong is to point out the following in a gentle manor.
It is okay to have been wrong. It is fine to tried something that didn’t work-out. The only thing that is truly wrong is to continue to do the wrong thing once you realize it is the wrong thing to do. There is no shame in having tried something only to realize it wasn’t right as-long as you don’t continue dong it because you won’t admit to a mistake.
Try to find something that isn’t Scientology to start them on. Maybe the bought into a pyramid scheme and realized it wasn’t right so they didn’t forward it. Acknowledge them on that. Ask them was it okay to have given it a shot and then stopped because you realized there was something wrong with it??
SILVIA says
I did not read all the lies about the named SPs they managed to exhume out of the pc folders, why bother?
Just look at the first line: “The following data were not published so far, as early release would have been very entheta”. What difference does it make if it was not let known from the beginning? Entheta will be entheta at the time of the release and weeks later.
This write up is nauseating, so full of lies – one alone will be Lisa Mc P, story, I was present in the scene and the Introspection RD could not be delivered as Lisa was completely shattered by the auditing she had received. At one point in time her folder had 6 red tags, day after day, that is how standard the auditing was then.
The more they attempt to hide their crimes with this and other publications, the worst it gets. It will keep backfiring at them.
hansje brinker says
Funny and sad. Somebody still in the church told me in 2013 that he has heard in a event the announcement of Miscavige that SP’s wanted to take over the church and wanted altering the tech…….
And yes, “the somebody” believed this shit and was strongly convinced.
hohotai says
I question the authenticity of this email. It contains many pieces of information, such as the statement that info from PC folders was being revealed to the public, any one of which might plant a seed of doubt in the mind of the $cn reader. It is a distillation of many pieces of bad action by the cherch interspersed with predictable $cio-speak nonsense. If it is for real, then the author has probably embarked on a billion-year stay in the Hole. But to me it is too over-the-top.
Mike Rinder says
As I have pointed out to others, whoever wrote this may have been doing it as a parody or a clever “trojan horse” or they are just lunatic. BUT this was sent by an MAA of a Sea Org Org to a parishioner as part of their “handling.” It proves that people INSIDE the bubble will believe anything. It also proves that MAA’s think there is nothing wrong with culling pc folders to put together “DA packs.” Of course they see nothing wrong with it — it’s done ALL THE TIME. It’s just that they are not informed that the spokespeople and lawyers say it ISNT DONE.
Interested Party says
It’s obviously a trojan horse type thing. The thing that shouted this the most to me was having a mention of Mary Sue. But to then inapplicably add that she was LRHs 3rd wife? Any new person reading any official bio of LRH today would assume he was never married at all.
So I guess it might have arrived in the MAA’s in – basket on RTC headed paper and thus it was obviously true and should be used.
Good tactic and kudos to whoever managed to get it in there.
Sindy Sloan Fagen says
When Dave and I announced HCO and OSA that we were leaving, we were shown dead agent material that clearly came from PC folders, etc. and we just handed it back and refused to keep reading it, telling them that it came from confidential files we shouldn’t be able to read. They didn’t argue.
Michael Mallen says
The more they try to dead agent someone, the more dead they make themselves – like being hoisted by their own petard.
LDW says
I know for an absolute fact that Ethics files are culled for discreditable acts, that they are distributed to other staff, that these disclosures are made known to spouses in order to alienate the spouse and they are used to cow a person into decrying oneself or shutting up if one dares expose any of miscavige’s crimes. It was done to me and my wife during a comm ev at ASHO. None of the people sitting in judgement over me seemed to think there was a damn thing wrong with doing this.
Even if this letter was a spoof, it does describe how they operate. They are true sociopaths, completely devoured by their own self-righteousness.
Nickname says
I know for an absolute fact that if you ask for your PC folder from an auditor outside the church, he’ll either hand them to you, or mail them to you. That way you can be sure they do not fall into the wrong hands. Their only value is in C/Sing.
Bruce Ploetz says
Just a quick note of explanation for those who may wonder at the groveling tone of the statements quoted from Marty and others – these are documents that are written in hopes of placating Dave. What would you say if the only way to get out of trouble was to abase yourself to a pitiless dictator who holds your fate in his hands? Who can, at a whim, deny you food, sleep and restrict your freedom? You’d say anything you think would impress him, just like the American POWs in the Viet Nam war who repeated communist lies in filmed “confessions”.
The first part of such a “confession” is the admission that you have committed crimes. You have to invent crimes that will be convincing and will explain Dave’s failures by accepting them as your own. To pretend to some kind of conspiracy or cabal to undermine Dave is pure gold. He is looking for these conspiracies and will easily accept them, even if the evidence is completely concocted from thin air. Then you have to have a convincing epiphany about how evil you are and how great Dave is. Without the epiphany, the confession is pointless. To get out of trouble you need a really blindingly incandescent burst of new faith in Dave and a torrent of horrid disgust at your own filthy ways.
You may hear of those “in the hole” or in trouble, most of what they have done for years, day in and day out, is a form of confession. A search for crimes and epiphanies dramatic enough to convince Dave to let them out. For those close to Dave, it is a fruitless and hopeless endeavor. Dave will never let them go, even if there is no “Hole” in the double wide trailers anymore there is also no Executive Director International cleaned up and leading the Church again. There are no statements to the press by the President. There is just Dave, in his own little world, Captain of his own leaky rowboat.
This cycle of getting in trouble, confessing and abasing yourself, and getting out of trouble is very familiar to anyone on Scientology staff. It is hilariously called Scientology Ethics. Any staff member has probably done this many times on a smaller scale, distributing a written confession and getting approval by a majority of staff to “rejoin the group”. Dave has just taken it to insanely draconian new levels.
To use such documents to “prove” anything is like using statements extracted under torture.
Mike Rinder says
Thanks Bruce.
I am glad you made this clear. I probably failed to do so.
I would also comment that the “confessions” of “lying” are ALL ABOUT LYING IN AND ON BEHALF OF SCIENTOLOGY. Not a single “confession” from anyone that they are lying TODAY about scientology. Just that we lied THEN to protect ourselves or to protect scientology.
Squirrel says
Thank you, Bruce and Mike.
If it means anything to you, my community of never-ins, pedestrians, wogs, observers, etc., would read the above ‘atonement’ letters and immediately think ‘HOSTAGE.’
I’ve had to write a few apology letters in my time, (some forced by my Mom ;)). Most everyone has had to write one. It’s not just the wording of the above apology letters, but the very sentiment that strikes the warning chord in an average person, and so I’ll also speak for those in my circle.
If I hit my neighbors dog with my car, even if I never liked the dog, you bet your a$$ I would apologize. But the apology would never read:
“I have never liked your dog, and have often thought I would sleep better at night if He were not barking constantly defending The King Of All That He Surveys. I now realize how foolish I am for even thinking that I would have the ability to silence such a Majestic Breed as your dog. I am obviously envious of your meet and bounds, and secretly wish my land was as perfectly situated as your plot is, and in my deranged mind, I was covetous of the Kingdom your Great Dane so dutifully protects. I realize now I hit Rex intentionally, and for that I deserve to be lowered slowly onto a barrel of hungry insects.”
To all of you who have written these forced confessions, please know they leave the never-in reader with a great sense of unease trying to imagine the insane circumstances that would compel anyone to this literal and abstract level groveling.
Though I don’t claim to know what ‘normal’ is, I certainly know what it is not, and the above is very far from normal, very disturbing, and so obviously coerced and cruel.
Peace.
Zephyr says
Good point Bruce.
Not miuch different of what you would get in an North Corean prison camp.
Greta
Michael Mallen says
I have one thing to say to David Miscavige and anyone from OSA reading this blog. There is no way you are getting away with these abuses. No way.
zana says
Hi Michael…I’m not sure how to get in touch with you. You said that you wanted to connect with me. ?? I’m out on Tony’s blog as well. Maybe it is easier to exchange info there.
Michael Mallen says
Zana, you can use this email: shawnuff@hushmail.com
Grasshopper says
This is a remarkable letter!
John Locke says
“They had infiltrated Int Management in Hemet, California”
Incredible! The St. Pete Times sent an agent to Australia DECADES ago to inculcate a child named Michael John Rinder into the roll of a secret agent. Knowing that he would eventually become a senior executive at a secret religious facility!!!!!!!!!
Tara says
That made me ROFLMAO!
Naitch says
Every time I read one of these cult memos, emails, videos or publications, it makes me sad. It is sad there are people in $cientology that believe that these messages make sense to people outside of their group. They do not look rational or reasonable to anyone on the outside. They are laughable charges and make no sense.
Truly sad.
Thank you Mike for spread the word about this dangerous cult.
babybunker says
Damn Psychs they got their hands on everything evil in the world. Bad Psychs! Bad BAD Psychs. Looking good on Fox Mr. Rinder.
You do us proud.
Heidi says
Yet they’re doing the exact same thing again with their new “WhoIs________” Twitter accounts. It would be unbelievable, except, yup, it’s Scientology.
cindy says
The church is desperate to counter the Black PR of the Gibney documentary. To that end they are mailing out “good news” pieces. I received a mailing from Bridge called, “the Golden Age of Knowledge News.” It is all over the top wonderful stuff showing people holding certs from studying The Basics. It says, “8 Clears per day in the last year.” What a generality! WHO are the Clears? WHAT area is making that many? Is it worldwide? And how are these Clears being made when everyone was massively put back on Purif and Survival R/D, and Objectives? They also claim that, “with knowledge from Basics study, Scientologists are going Clear and creating the life they want.” So now you don’t just coaudit or get auditing to Clear…. you read the books and go Clear. Less auditors needed that way.
The other thing of note is that they mailed this to me, a known SP (Special Person). And they used an old married name that I haven’t used since 1984. Either they are reaching the bottom of the barrel in Central Files to mail to people who haven’t used that name for decades, or they are mailing to anyone and everyone just to report stats to their seniors of number of promo pieces sent out, and they don’t care that it goes to dead filed or SP declared people, as long as they can count it as a stat.
Newcomer says
Or both!
Roger Hornaday says
The notion that this couldn’t be for real because it’s too self-parodying, is an unrealistic notion. Look at their promos and their smear videos. Those HAVE to be spoofs on the church but they’re not. They’re for real!
Kemist says
Poe’s Law : the genuine ramblings of true fanatics are cannot be distinguished from parodies thereof.
Jose Chung says
This is classic”Big Lie Theory” as described in Mien Kamph chapter 10,
written by Hitler. Often credited to Joeseph Goebbels,
Hitlers Minister of Propaganda but predates Goebbels when Hitler wrote
his playbook for conquest while in prison.A lie repeated often enough to large
groups becomes the truth. Never repeat small lies, only promote big lies.
sara says
Correct, except for the spelling: Mein Kampf. Just for the record.
LDW says
One statement by Hubbard that I think is pretty correct is that the hardest thing to confront is Evil.
When I look at the smears by miscavige in his freedumb mag, this post, the viciousness in Tommy Davis when attacking Sweeny, I see the utter blackness of their universe. It most certainly is hard to confront. Same goes with the way Hubbard dealt with Paulette Cooper. Pure, vindictive evil.
It is quite something to now see yourself, Tom De Vocht, Marty, Jeff, et al. All doing well in life, healthy, happy, after experiencing such unmitigated suppression from Miscavige.
For you guys to come out now and dare to tell the truth to the world is one of the most admirable things I’ve ever seen. You have a billion dollars and a cadre of lying assholes led by a true psycopath against you, and yet you speak out. Amazing.
Several of my friends were complaining that Going Clear didn’t tell enough about how good the tech is, while exposing the crimes of Miscavige. I’ve just completed someone on the Grades from 0-4. I see the positive changes in her life. I know the tech can be used in a positive manner and can be used to restore a person’s self determinism. But I believe that it is far more important right now to fully expose all of the abuses of the current organization under Miscavige and the abuses under Hubbard in order to prevent more self-serving cults from arising in the future.
Miscavige needs to be neutered completely as a first action. L Ron Hubbard needs to be viewed without blinders. Then, that tech which actually accomplishes what it states it can accomplish can be viewed completely outside of its author or the bizarre organization created to administer it.
The bottom line is, if you can actually help people, they will come to you for help. From my experience with the people on planet earth, they don’t care what you call it, they just want help.
zana says
I agree with you. I got great “wins” from 0 to 4. It was very helpful for me to turn my life around and deal with some tragedies that had spiraled me into grief. Even so… I had wonderful field auditors. I would not have lasted at an org. I also agree with you that Co$ is completely out of control. It’s important to completely focus on dismantling it, blowing it to bits. I don’t think it can be saved. There might be some field auditors out there who can pull the workable things out and continue on with helping people…however, it would be very dangerous to do anything but expose the abuses. The little bit of Truth that is workable in the tech is the sweetness that attracts the flies into the trap. And DM does NOT need anything positive going his way. He needs exposure exposure exposure.
Also… The vitriol that came out of Tommy Davis is totally representative of how the Sea Org people are pent up volcanos of anger. Like piercing a giant boil…all this yuk comes out. Can you imagine a spokesman for the Dalai Lama speaking to the press like that? Not even the Mormons would do that. Or the spokesman for the Catholic church. Tommy looks as crazy as Tom Cruise.
Robert Almblad says
LDW, I agree with what you say about needing a neutered Miscavige..
“Then, that tech which actually accomplishes what it states it can accomplish can be viewed completely outside of its author or the bizarre organization created to administer it.”
Like you, I believe Scientology as a subject WILL survive but NOT its “bizarre organization”. It is yesterday’s toast. Nothing can save or resurrect Scientology organizationally because Miscavige has used it to harm too many people and then tried to cover it up to save his sorry ass, which has created a PR nightmare of epic proportions.
Those who use Scientology technology to improve the lives of others (both in and out of the Church) are working to rid the planet of this abomination called the Cherch of Micavigology… and those that see no value in the technology are ALSO working to rid the planet of this same organization, but they call it the Church of Scientology.
Because we have a strong 1st amendment, I think Miscavige’s Scientology will continue to exist along side other unwanted American groups like American Nazi Party, but it will be financially broken and it will be a weak shadow of it’s former self.
Europe has recognized it as a dangerous cult and it will probably continue the trend towards illegalization of the institution of Scientology.
I also very much agree with your conclusion that “with the people on planet earth, they don’t care what you call it, they just want help.”
Great analysis Les…
genetru says
Which is done via third party independent testing with measures taken to eliminate observational bias. Everyone should have to do that before a technique is OKed to be applied to someone else’s mind so it can be checked for error or actual malice like mind control.
The same applies to anyone, whether they be “psychs”, Scientologist, or anybody else. Now that I understand the insidious nature of surreptitious mind control within a supposed therapy, it will need to be watched for. People are not going to stop trying to brainwash others, unfortunately. When it is mixed with valid therapy it is difficult to differentiate the two since they both involve a shift.
The difference being that mind control /hypnosis removes the person’s own goals and replaces them with the goal of the hypnotic operators to remain under their control, whereas therapy brings them to their highest self, free of the control of the operator.
Hubbard referred to it as “altitude”. Hypnotic control maintains the altitude of the operator, therapy lessens the altitude of the operator and increases the altitude of the patient.
Sir Upticious says
Hey Mike! You seem to be doing pretty well for someone who was “shuddered into silence.” Kudos!
spirit says
That is the exact comment I was about to make!
Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter says
This is so insane. But I can see someone who is totally inside the Bubble, thinking that writing a letter like this would help. That it would have a negative impact on anyone not totally inside the Bubble would never occur to them (and if it did, they’d consider it good, as obviously those who it chased away must also be Psych agents).
OSA Bot says
We hereby condemn Amy Scobee for finding a way to have fun while in the Sea Org. Such activities are limited to COB, and cannot be enjoyed by other members!
From83 says
What’s really sick is they could turn the SO in to a somewhat fun place. They have enough money to do some cool vacations like renting out theme parks, etc. What do you say Dave? If things are going so great and stats are vertical then shouldn’t the SO get rewards… Oh, wait they’re just a bunch of DBs in comparison to you. All up statistics are the direct result of your involvement and all down statistics are the results of those DB Sea Borg members.
doloras says
Kate Bornstein and other old-timers relate that the original Sea Org was a very fun place, we’re talking orgies and the like. Then Ron put a stop to it in 1972 and made everyone get married.
Just Me says
Scientology … a great example of truth that’s stranger than fiction. Thanks for publishing this. And thanks to those who made it available to you.
McCarran says
WACKO!!!
This email is a perfect demonstration of The Prison of Belief. I was never this far gone that this wouldn’t have read crazy to me. The fact that the person(s) (David Miscavige and friends) who wrote this had the cojones to publish it, speaks volumes as to the respect that David Miscavige has for the intelligence of His parishioners. This email is a perfect demonstration of the mindset of David Miscavige and his church of scientology.
IT IS CRAZY!!
Raindog says
In any real organization that took its purpose seriously the board would ask DM to step down and have an independent investigation done of the accusations made against him. This would clear his name and he could step back into his position. But unfortunately an independent investigation can’t be done or ordered because….oops the accusations are true and there is no board of directors.
Kemist says
Like my little brother when he was around 7 or 8 years old, Miscavige uses words that sound cool to him without knowing their real meaning. “Chairman of the Board” is probably something he saw in some movie or other that he thought would be a cool title for him. If he had watched a different movie, he’d probably call himself a CEO.
It was funny and cute when my little brother did it, but it’s pathetic when you know that the person who’s behind it is 50 plus.
Just look at the nicknames given in the smears of those who appear in Going Clear, FFS. They’re so lame and cringeworthy I’m embarrassed for them.
Mat Pesch says
One might wonder how an Ethics Officer could be so stupid as to forward the above letter. To be an Ethics Officer, the staff member needs to meet certain qualifications. Those qualifications would be most easily found in a person cut off from society. Thus, it is common for Ethics Officers to have been born into Scientology or have at least been indoctrinated from a very early age. In their bubble world the above letter sounds reasonable. To the rest of the world, it sounds completely insane. The same was true for the Freedom magazine that Miscavige put together after the St. Pete Times articles came out. Miscavige has been in the bubble since he was a kid (about 40 years). He thinks his PR handlings are brilliant while the rest of the world shakes their head at the stupidity and insanity. That Freedom magazine was mailed out to the general public within the readership of the St. Pete Times. I know non Scientologists who lived 45 minutes outside Tampa who received that magazine in the mail. I had an early copy of that Freedom magazine and I didn’t think there was any way Miscavige would be stupid enough to send that out, especially to the general public. Sure enough……. A PR exchange with Miscavige is like having a sword fight with a blind man. I can’t help laughing to myself when I see Miscavige buying a media facility.
Sindy Sloan Fagen says
Brilliant comment.
Tara says
Agreed!
deanblair06 says
You are doing an excellent job of exposing the asthmatic dwarf. His continued existence as COB may be short lived after the HBO documentary. Miscavige is being exposed by so many different people and so many different fronts I really feel his time as leader is not much longer.
Cowboy Poet says
Mike,
Your recent accomplishments in PR have been stellar! Comparing their “PR machine” to yours is like comparing a jackass to an F 16.
…or lies to the truth.
Very nice!
Dean
Skydog says
Looking at this, I would have to say it almost appears as a subtle attempt to disabuse the sheeple of the good of scientology. How many corrupt, negligent, or inept high level executives have infiltrated this organization under the nose of Miscavige? If serious, it is so blatantly stupid that a third grader could cross-examine the author to shreds. Then again, I am reminded of the months long siege of the Rathbuns and think – maybe they are that stupid.
Sindy Sloan Fagen says
It certainly puts people on notice. “Stay straight or you’re next”
Peter Bonyai says
Mike, sorry, but I don’t think this is legit. There was a similar e-mail circulated in Hungary in the name of DSA Budapest, but it was in fact crafted by a clever ex-Sea Org member (not me 🙂 ) to give out factual information and specifics, masqueraded as Church propaganda.
First of all, it is too over the top to be credible, second, to give out so many specifics about the enemies of the Church is actually forbidden by LRH policy (“never forward enemy lines”). As you can see from the Going Clear fallout, they are sticking to the old formula – attack you and the other participant personally and do not bother to respond to the allegations.
So, I think it is a forgery and/or attempt to circumvent the thought stopping mechanism of Churchies. IMHO.
Mike Rinder says
Peter, as I said, maybe this WAS written by someone as a spoof. BUT, it was absolutely sent by an official church representative at CC Int to one of their public.
BlondesAreDumb says
Over the top or not, it has enough information that has to be from an insider to work as a possible stop gap (cult’s intent) or prompt the public to think, “I know that person, this just can’t be.” Pause enough to maybe ponder, something is just not right here!
John McMasters says
Definitely a spoof. The staff member in question must not have been a native speaker of English.
Mike Rinder says
No, the staff member in question is definitely a native english speaker.
Whether this is a spoof or not is irrelevant. The mere fact that it can be argued either way is proof of the insanity inside the bubble.
That MAA thought it was a perfectly good communication to send out to try to “handle” a “parishioner.”
Even if you were to assume “he didn’t read it and just sent it out” it is an astonishing indictment. It proves that if you tell a scientologist “Hooray, this is great news” you can follow it with ANYTHING and they will be certain it’s true.
I do not think this is a spoof personally. I think it was written by someone just a bit short of genius on the IQ scale, who had accepted every single piece of “DA” that had been fed to him by scientology, someone who had been inculcated to believe that there is a vast conspiracy that explains everything bad that ever happens. He then puts it all together into a rambling diatribe and announces it as a “big win.”
Jens TINGLEFF says
Mike,
I assume this means that you checked the IP numbers in the headers? It’s no problem at all to make something appear to be “From: Dave@flag.scientology.org” but it’s a whole different kettle of clams to make the IP numbers work.
(Of course, there are other ways of knowing 😀 )
McCarran says
This kind of crazy talk can be verified again and again. Just read Amy Scobee’s book “Abuse At The Top.” If you weren’t on the ship at the time to hear this for yourself, David Miscavige describes the Major Victory in the charges being dropped in the Lisa McPherson case. Of course, that suit was only brought against the c of s, et al., because of Eli Lilly.
shelgold says
Would be laughable if it weren’t so fucking insane.
LDW says
That pretty much sums it up, Sheldon
Sindy Sloan Fagen says
For real. It’s so insane it turns the stomach. It’s a freak show.
Lawrence says
The Church of Scientology is the greatest out ethics and overt to ever be created on this planet. The true technology “of the church” has not been available before anywhere and was not even known (in spite of the eternal questions it answers). Yet, the Church of Scientology and it’s members have yet found the time and money to twist this true tech, invalidate it and pretend that something else is meant by it to the public. Every time a person in the church spots this outness they are declared an SP by the church and NEVER commended for keeping Scientology working (a policy one must read before beginning ANY course pack in the church). Why should the people on this planet “wait for the church to get around to helping them”? A church that never will get around to helping most people. People should help themselves and if the Church of Scientology gets in the way of that than “Who put the Church of Scientology in charge?” The winners and the victors will be those people who actually better the lives of those around them with this tech, not lie to them about what it is for money or personal gain. It is a sad day for the church, but a good day for the truth and Mankind. I have always believed the federal government more competent at delivering auditing and training than ANY Church of Scientology and the governments’ schedule is much more 9 to 5 as well.
Mreppen says
Wow, this bizarre. What strikes me is that the Psychs created Marty Rathbun, Mike Rinder, Amy Scobe, Tom DeVocht, Dave Mayo, Jesse Prince, Quentin Hubbard, etc, etc. Really?
Idle Morgue says
Mike – awesome job on Fox News! My friends and family were calling me from around the Globe.
You really looked and sounded fantastic.
I cannot believe the Church of Scientology is so stupid – that they are practicing the Doctrine of Fair Game for the World to watch.
Please continue David Miscavige – you can’t destroy your Church any faster then you are doing right now! Very well done, Sir.
Now let’s watch those big empty buildings go broke!