Big news.
The FIRST auditor in the field has completed the GAG II Class 4 training.
Yes, these SUPER FAST EVERY SINGLE PERSON COMPLETES IN CHECKSHEET TIME COURSES have finally produced a Class IV auditor after only 8 MONTHS!
At two weeks per Academy Level, somehow the numbers are just not making sense.
Funny how when they have NO completions they talk about “everyone is winning and zooming through faster than ever, ALL on checksheet time.” Then months later when someone FINALLY completes, there is no mention of how fast the training now is?
Wonder why? There is NOTHING that emanates from corporate scientology about what they are doing that is not a lie.
I am more than annoyed with the comments and criticism about how Susan Rodriguez looks in the picture. (“She’s a redo, and looks like a battered housewife,” “she’s forcing a smile,” “She actually doesn’t look all that happy,” “She looks like she needs some mental and physical Ex-Lax.”)
What a bunch of jerks (I initially used a stronger word here, but I worried about approval from the moderator.)
The article is focused on the promised speed of delivery and the length of time it actually took. Try to not be such assholes. (OK, couldn’t help myself.)
RK – one also however should not forget that this woman has been, by agreeing to her re-training and staying on staff etc. and sitting quietly by while her PCs are being ripped for IAS and Idle Org donations, actually or tacitly agreeing with the magnificent management of COB or whatever ridiculous phrases they use for this. And I think your ears would burn as would most people’s on here if you knew what staff were saying about you when you had left the fold so to speak.Now of course one realizes that 2 wrongs do not make a right but I am not going to lose any sleep about people on here venting their Scientology spleen and I don’t think you should, in my opinion. In my post above I applauded her for making it go right to get through her training and left it at that, more or less, but there is also a dark side to this tacit or overt support of COB – and thus treason to LRH and the subject. Just look at what “Freedom” magazine publishes let alone all the stuff that Mosey has had to put up with. And we all know what COB says about staff and public, especially those on “Hollywood Boulevard”. But your comments and sentiment here are somewhat correct and I applaud you for your temperance. We should try and do what you suggest for these CICSs.
Susan is a long term div 6 member. she has been infinitely loyal to the Davis, and now Riverpark mission. She has been there through the glorious days of Davis and sac missions. they used to deliver 300 to 500 hours of auditing each. now Tony has replaced her in div 6 and she has been their lone auditor. Their other tech people taken for Wichita, Memphis or drifted off..
It is so very sad seeing people waste decades of their lives doing what they think is the best thing they can do and have decades of lies deceit and destructive changes occur in the tech.
Susan used to be someone who was kind understanding and she now keeps trying to “re-kindle the failed purposes” hoping. No actually believing that her religion will somehow some way actually clear the planet.
alas it is all smoke and mirrors and she is a dinosaur in a very old movie. Smi and the Msn holder just keep limping along keeping her hoping and praying that it will get better.
It is very sad story.
mg
The CHICO Mission??? Chico is in the middle of nowhere north of Sacramento. Its only claims to fame are an intrastate fuels pipeline, restaurants and motels, and being near Mt. Shasta and the Oroville reservoir. How Chico can have a profitable mission is beyond my cognition.
If Chico can have a profitable mission, Davie should study what they are doing to bring the balance of Scientology to life.
Org or mission long term tech staff, the problem more used to be them rejecting this constant “upgrade” “must do over again” tech training.
At least she got through, and can deliver again, and who knows who else is even qualified and has done the GAT II to even be “qualified”, likely she’s the first at her mission, thus all the backlogged and lost customers stuck on their “Basics” courses, it’s a whole new bunch of problems getting those client/parishioners even back going as pcs again!
The loss of public during both this multi years “Bascis” derailing of the public, and now this GAT II which has caused omitted auditors to even deliver, means the whole tenor of the orgs and missions has been pitiful, they have reverted to being Div 6 course rooms, essentially.
Now, doing the rest of the normal delivery, auditing, gradechart progress, is a whole NEW new trend they have to get going.
What “management” would do, is know they’d need some “executives” trained up, now that they have these GAT II ‘tech coin” staffs (if they get through their training) to utilize to sell some auditing to their public again!
This all isn’t new, this is the majority of Scientology history anyways, in all the “small and failing orgs” that have been the bulk of the orgs, or the bulk of the internal history of almost all orgs which have had their “small and failing era” internally in almost all orgs, at various times.
When I was watching the orgs’ stats, back in the late 1970s, through to about 1988, those ten years I was always in “middle managment” (Flag Bu Exec College 1977, Int Training Org both from 1977 to 1983, then 1984 to 1988 in Senior HCO Int/FB) when anyone in those orgs had to weekly check the OIC (some of us were dumb enough to do as told, I was always guilty of that), OIC is the Org Information Center a part of the Data Bu/Branch with all the orgs stats, cont stats, int stats, — an FB staff member’s job was LOOK at the stats, know the scene in the orgs.
We also had to do our “OFO” )Org Flag Officer, filer of data coming in, letter answering and acknowledging reports from staff, in our assigned “OFO org”, mine was sometimes small and failing tiny orgs, several, since one staff at Flag got assigned up to 4 small and failing orgs to monitor their incoming data and answer letters to staff sending in reports, and prodding staff to complete targets on their “org programs” (LRH’s detailed Flag Bu managing of orgs is quite extensive, some of us “took it seriously”); all this means is some of us really learned how the orgs were to be micromanaged by the bureaucracy that LRH laid out in the hundreds/thousands of policies and Flag Orders, other issue types, like Flag Bu Data Letter (policy for managers at the Flag which is now the HGB middle management level).
OFOs and even FB staff (middle managment staff) were to look at the stats, and keep abreast of the orgs.
Thus, my first hand experience, was the stats, the personnel of the orgs, in those years, 1977 to 1988 specifically, I enjoyed that sort of oddball Sea Org drone manager helper job, which is all that the Org Flag Officers are, just helper filers, and extra help to the Programs Chiefs.
That whole era of somewhat “managed” org handling, I am so curious what all became of all of it.
I wanted more ex HGB (middle managers from the today’s Flag Bu) to please detail all their current trends.
Last I heard was from a Programs Chief who blew in or around 2008 or 2009.
The year by year internal viewpoint from Flag Bu middle management staff tells pretty good overview of this one thing that public just don’t really get.
That all through the history of the orgs (I can attest from 1977 till 1988) the overwhelming majority of orgs were “small and failing” size.
How that relates to today, is this pitiful progress, to me today seems “orderly”, but just as pitiful as it has honestly been all through those years I as a Sea Org Flag Bu level drone staffer who mindfully did my OFO duty (and liked it, liked looking at the stats, liked being a helper to the Programs Chiefs, liked later being a helper theoretically re policy when I was on the routing forms project); that IS the scene.
The small and failing orgs are at best Div 6 course rooms, feeders to the higher orgs, backlines settings for the more got bucks public who have the money to actually afford going up the Bridge.
More went up, possibly, percentage wise, but this whole setup has always been a LOT more people on Div 6 type courses, fewer on the mainline Levels training or Grades auditing, and the most got-bucks people were shuffled off to LA or Flag, where they did their OT levels and the most got bucks moved up to doing the Ls at Flag, and on up.
There’s no question, in my view, even as pitiful as it seems today, and I’m an atheist, I don’t promote Scientology services, I do feel obliged to get honest comparisons to what I firsthand have witnessed, that as bad as this wholesale wrecking and turning everything into basically a big Div 6 course activity (with the exception of still the money funneling of got bucks client/parishioners to the AOs and Flag, and IAS reaching way DOWN into the conts to pull out the money, and then the local got bucks people gouged for the building money donations); overall it’s all still “small and failing” mostly, at the bottom.
Just in nicer quarters, uniforms today in the Ideal Orgs, the whole McDonalds’ upstat look.
I’m surprised that the old 1970s Sea Org trend that extended downwards, meaning allowing Class 4/5 staff to live way more communally and act like their own local “Sea Org” lifestyles, communal berthing/meals and rewards as a group, isn’t more the case today.
One of the big disagreements that the whole Sea Org setup is, is that it really is a communal life, and hasn’t been properly set up as a rewarding communal life, and then adopting a communal staff life reward system for the staffs of Class 4/5 orgs (the AOs and ASHO and Flag and on up, ought to be way more rewarded communally than it has been).
I’ve always thought, as nutty and so forth as so much of Scientology is, that this whole setup could be tweaked pretty easily to “fix” it.
It’s got the staffs pretty well temporarily hooked, into the same several years-long commitments. It’s always taken a few years of staff to staff injustices and management bashing from on high to make staffs wish to quit and then finally quit.
So much is the same, as “bad” as it looks, is all, and to really “change” it, like the Exec Strata (think tank) members ought to do some reform, because I personally took what LRH said seriously about the top “think tank’s” role, I do think some major reforms still are possible.
With Miscavige there to personally block all reform, yes, things will continue to be more pitiful, nicer looking, but dismally and unlike what LRH ordered in so many of the well meaning, although so much of what LRH ordered ended in keystone cops cross ordering constantly problem causing conflicts also, so if it is not one thing, then even following LRH, and let’s say Miscavige goes, if there were some saner Exec Strata people who could think through all the mess, they could do some reform.
But also, because of the way LRH has written and spoken which the members and staffs do read, their hope is constantly rekindled as long as they read and absorb LRH’s hopes as their own, and they trudge on through the bad Miscavige era of omitted detailed management options that LRH wrote in full in all he wrote for the FB.
There are so many levels to this lumbering bureaucracy that LRH created that houses the official Scientology movement, that carries on, despite the bad leadership, omitted and focused main bad leadership of Miscavige.
Senior HCO Int used to keep up the stats of the staffs quitting, of course it’s one of the stats, weekly.
I’d love to see the Senior HCO Int stats for personnel hiring and quitting weekly, org by org. And see the 25 year trends.
Riverpark Mission is what’s left of COSMOD. The teeny tiny failing leftovers.
In related news, Sue Rodriguez, who used to be a hot blonde babe, now looks like alcoholic Eddie Van Halen. I can’t imagine why. GAT II looks like it sucked the last bit of life out of her.
Sooooooooo…….cancel all the certs of auditors trained on LRHs watch en masse, dev-t the shit out of everyone with the gag 1 torture, forcing people to learn things they already know, then, sadistically declare, undeclare declare, undeclare most of the clears, then…… add a little spice by bypassing fns and political sec checks, and then………gag 2…..yay!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder things are going so well with ONE (1) new auditor!!! Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🙂 +1
Wow, only 8 months to complete GAG 2. And that’s with a person who was already auditor trained. Extrapolating from that, it should take a newbie “only” 2 years to do GAG 2. COB has once again streamlined auditor training in only a way that COB is capable of. Can’t wait for GAG 3.
The supervisor’s comment also that he is “finally proud of his tech” is another one of those raised flag moments for me as well. What was he before then? Not proud? Probably “yes” would be the answer to that as he had been trained to nag, interfere with and irritate F/Ning students who look at the ceiling and smile when they hear an LRH joke amongst much other false data and crashing misunderstoods on how to supervise a Scientology course. GAT II has probably “explained” to him now why it is (now really) “ok” to commit such and other supervisor atrocities on students. I’ve seen these “latter day” sups in action – they couldn’t supervise their way out of a paper bag let alone run a full Academy, which don’t exist anymore anyway as they drive students away. “Tough” supervisors eh? They think or rather have been “trained”, that a course room is akin to a US Marine assault course – for students to be screamed at, interfered with and verbally assaulted. The word “tough” is their main crashing misunderstood by the way (which is used in WIAC PL).Again though good luck to him, at least another supervisor has been trained – hopefully. Perhaps he isn’t one of these types that I am talking about? But I am not taking any bets on that.
Foolproof — in regards to Mr. Humphries’ comment, “I am finally proud of my Tech,” you need to view this in the right context. It’s like someone saying, “I’ve just married wife number five, and I can’t tell you how happy I am and how I just discovered what married life is supposed to be all about.”
One can rightly assume that this guy had absolutely no clue what a wife or husband was all about or what his role was supposed to be. I believe the correct phrase is — Clueless.
Mr. Humphries obviously didn’t feel good about his tech previously because he never got past the words. Never understood the concepts. Never audited or trained anyone and never put the tech on the line in actual points of application.
It’s not GAG II that suddenly and miraculously opened his eyes and his heart to the Tech. It was the preceding rush of blood from his head down to his wallet as he had to pay exorbitantly for the new meter and course – and the resultant return of that blood to his brain, that caused the cognition that he finally is seeing the words on his page. Sudden losses have been known to bring people into Present Time. The sudden loss of a loved one, of a beloved pet, of one’s entire Life’s savings…
Yep, Mr. Humphries is finally in present time. Now, that is a win. Unfortunately, dropping a bucket of ice down the front of his shorts would have accomplished the same result without having to spend decades working at it — but let’s not denigrate his win.
Here – here!!!!!
Odd
I think this “learned Supervisor valence” is about the worst example I can think of of “the blind leading the blind”, ironically. If DM had said he had meant this with his statement then I would have supported it (but of course he probably likes their aggressive attitude and thinks it is correct). It seems that Sups in training go over to Flag, watch the Sups there roaming around snarling at ITO and maybe public students and think “this is the way it is done”. And so they come back to their local Orgs and do the same, and empty their Academy within weeks, if not days. They think “tough” means sticking their faces into the student’s face aggressively and almost or sometimes shouting at them. But I think 50% of the why for empty academies is also the crush regging – people are now fed up with it all, or penniless.
There was something strange I thought about a Mission church being able to deliver services all the way up to Clear? In effect they can deliver then nearly all, if not all, of the services that a central Class V Org can then deliver. Weren’t the Missions in 82 smashed by DM (as one of the spurious “reasons”) for doing the same thing as they seem to be doing now and thus “ripping off the Orgs”? I may be wrong on this point but when I read that something flagged up on it.
I though field auditors, and missions, were both endangered species.
This is relevant to the CoS under Miscavige. The passage is from Ken Segall’s book ‘Insanely Simple’ referring to Steve Jobs.
“He preferred straight talk and raw content to a slick presentation. In fact, a slick presentation would only make him suspect that you were fluffing up the few facts you really had.”
The cat is on our side
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Is it just me, or does Susan Rodriguez bear an uncanny resemblance to Popeye?
I just woke up to the realization of a HUGE problem. What if this field auditor indicates a 2-swing FN?
Missions don’t have an RPF pool where to dump such horrendous out-tech offenders.
What to do, what todo?
Greta
What the hell is a two swing F/N? It isn’t an F/n at all until it has swung THREE times and at that point it changes from a needle that is moving back and forth, back and forth to becoming an F/N. You have to see it to believe it.
Yo Dave, Do I have it right? Do I need more GAT II training or should I just blow the whole thing off? How about a solo assessment drill:
Q) Do I care about my needle and whether it has the ability to float?
A) Fuck no!!!!!!
Thank you, your needle is fleeting!!!!
Oh, I get it now…GAT II is ‘unlearning’ ALL of your previous training!
Mission Auditor ????? They went extinct in 1982.
Put this gal in the Smithsonian because when GAT 3 rolls out she will be squashed like
bug run over by a steam roller.
D.M. see’s every read on your OT 8 meter and watches
you audit with the OT 8 spy camera.( careful what you wear honey)
“Chico’s new …. Professional Course Sup will be on deck in a few weeks…” See you at Christmas then. Maybe.
Till then …………….. no courses at Chico Mission.
A friend of mine who’s son will be starting at Chico this Fall has been able to share with him how destructive a cult $cientology is. This friend has been able to observe how an apparently normal family (mine) has gone from this normal condition to being divorced and our kids not in communication at all. He worked with my son Phil in my construction company and still shakes his head trying to figure out why he moved to the city and joined staff at the Sac Org so he could make no money and devote 100% of his time to ……….?.
Apparently Phil couldn’t explain it to him either. Anyway, the word is out around here in a big way as all of my son’s high school friends talk in disbelief that he would join a Cult as stupid as $cientology. ” All you have to do is check out the internet to see that it is batshit crazy” said one of his long time friends to me the other day. I asked him to let Phil in on the secret next time he saw him!
And so we work…………..
39 years on staff presumably many of those years delivering professional auditing and 8 months to get through GAT II. A new person would probably be looking 4 years or so. Seems like the more things change the more they stay the same.
(BIG YAWN!) Oh, sorry! I got bored and stopped paying attention. Please wake me when something important happens. That should give me the rest of my life to relax…
Come-on guys they have made a whopping, straight up and vertical, ONE auditor. She’s a redo, and looks like a battered housewife, but still…
Disgusting. Pathetic. Useless. A lie, a farce, a sham and a shame.
Which all adds up to C.U.L.T: Cruel, Ugly.Lying. Torturous.
Ken, I thought after a redo auditors were supposed to look up toned? What, she took a Quaalude to calm herself down?
Surfer Dude,
She probably needs a surfboard rather than that new meter she’s got there.
She needs her IDEAL Surfing Basics put back in.
At least the real sharks won’t take long to get things done, and she’ll be in PT…if a bit gnawed on.
Seriously though, she looks so resentful.
She looks like she needs some mental and physical Ex-Lax
One field auditor for billions of people on earth, now, that is orders of magnitude disaster plus she is still not done, she has more ‘specialist’ courses to complete, such as NED.
Since when Dianetics became a specialist course? Oh, sorry, I forgot, it happened when DM decided he could get away with stealing money from parishioners and Orgs…hum, now I understand.
Why would the person who wrote this have to
emphasize the South Coast mission clear did his
entire bridge at the mission? Why is that such a
big deal?
Randy you are “finally proud of your tech”?
I’m so happy for you. How long did that take?
And your respect for COB and RTC sure does seem
sincere and unwavering. Keep that ass kissing up
Randy and see where it gets you cuz the tech you
are finally proud of ain’t the workable tech you somehow
weren’t proud of.
Susan is forcing her smile cuz she knows the new meter in front of her
has a camera that goes into the RTC offices that can also be
linked directly to the COB HIMself.
She knows she isn’t really doing the auditing…..it
is being done remotely by RTC or COB….she knows
she is just a puppet….hence the puppet smile.
What? No Gold Seal?
“She is back in the chair auditing…” So, apparently she was a fully interned auditor who was forced to STOP auditing for how long? Months? It would be interesting to know exactly how long it took her to get through her GAT II line-up. Part-time? Full-time?
And she’s doing concurrent courses? Hmm…seem to recall an HCOB regarding being on two courses at the same. But, hey, it’s GAT II, none of that seems to apply.
They have no PCs anyway so they can afford auditors take time off to “re-train”. Like all the Div 6 staff in Orgs being sent to Flag for “training” – there was nobody coming through the doors anyway.
I’m happy for her. Now that she is trained and ready to audit it would be a perfect time to resign from the church and hook-up with a Independent group. The world needs her skill and she can put enough money in her pocket to make a good living.
Wouldn’t you be concerned that the gag2 impact on whatever she had to do would screw up her ability to actually audit an indie? After all, she’s been taking long pulls on the koolaid.
Exactly. I dread to see what her TRs are really like, and what she’s like assessing a list. Ow ow ow. If she’s been around for so many years maybe a little of the “old” training will come through and she’ll get some results anyway.
Or trying to clean obvious cleans on confessional questions because she is frightened that RTC would not approve otherwise? (i.e. asking an old granny who has been on staff for 40 years if she is a member of the CIA?) Or waiting for that 3rd swing that doesn’t get narrower on the “F/Ns”? I’ve seen “TRs” from people trained in the Church in the last decade or so also and they leave a lot to be desired, in fact they are atrocious – totally robotic – the blind are definitely and ironically now leading the blind. Or accepting “executive C/Sing”? Good luck to her though and well done – she has achieved the almost impossible – trained as an auditor despite all the CI and stops imposed on her by the Church and rabid snarling supervisors!
Mike, I am a bit perplexed as to why field auditing is suddenly being promoted, unless her only OSA approved plot is located somewhere like North Korea or Siberia.
I shudder to think what Tony Chen of all people will drag out of the suburbs for pretend artists. The true artists left long ago. The evidence: All they have to plunk down center stage in front of the arthritis blue haired audiences is Chill E B. I rest my case 🙂
This is not really a Field Auditor. It’s a “mission” auditor. She is just not an “org” auditor.
There still are missions? Heh
I would guess they are promoting her because that’s all they’ve got. But they fiiiiiinally MADE a GAT II auditor no matter who or where or how, so that news has got to get out. (Love how the orgs are leading the way…not….)
I see a shot of Tony Chen, the craigslist bait and switcher. Hows that Div 6 new public going? Like a rocket?
Tony Chen is the walking slime mold who started the whole Scientology on Craigslist plague. He needs to find some new marketing strategies, because thanks to the Red X movement, his last one failed so spectacularly that his main acolyte, JJ In Boston, is now cursing us “Internet assholes” for spoiling the fun.
Don’t worry, Tony. Whatever you come up with, we Internet assholes will find out and destroy it before it drags anyone into your cult of despair.
So true and well said Espi.
Nice lady, but what has she been doing for the last 39 years on staff?
they wil be making clears very soon eh?
What an incredible invalidation for an Auditor of her time in the job and training level!
It is incredible how these people have been duped by the dwarfs bullshit.
I conclude they simply have not been studying Dianetics and Scientology.
How can this woman do all those courses all over again and no realise she is being manipulated, invalidated and conned.
As a poster yesterday mentioned it is like an Orwellian nightmare from 1984.
They actually see three fingers if the dwarf says there are three.
Well if have two for him ina big V.
No, man, she ain’t lookin happy at all!
Uh oh! Looks like Tony Chen was actually checking out this blog on his phone when he should have been researching hub-quotes for squeezing more money from the dwindling few.
Interesting how they don’t have the “success story” from the 1st ever GAT II field auditor completion. She actually doesn’t look all that happy in the photo. My guess is that she can’t wait until all of the retraining is over with and she’s praying their won’t be a GAT Phase III.