So, the building is done and is being yanked into life on Saturday.
But scientology NEVER tires of collecting money for their worthy causes (anything that results in more money for scientology is worthy/humanitarian).
Though they collect tens of millions for “dissemination campaigns” and “planetary dissemination” and “ideal orgs” (beyond just the building fundraising) there is NOTHING in scientology that is identified as a valuable CAUSE on which to spend money, unless it is also a cause to COLLECT money. And they ALWAYS collect more than they spend.
Apparently they cannot spend a few thousand on a new Ideal Org to “get out of Non Existence” from the tens of millions they have already collected. Nope, instead they continue to try to collect more to pay for “dissemination.” They never tire of going to the well to ask for money.
And this does not even take into account that L. Ron Hubbard clearly states that the money paid for SERVICES is what funds broad dissemination activities.
Own a piece of scientology history — like those worthless “leatherbounds” and “special editions” that have gone before. The only history they represent is a reminder of the foolishness of the buyer.
Scientology worships upon altar of money and Dianetics is its cash bible.
As with all things scientology: caveat emptor.
Thomas Weeks says
A nice publishing for a shit book. Not even Scientologists use Dianetics anymore. Hard to believe that Scientologists still have any money left for this crap.
Kat DePietro says
This cult continues to blow my mind to what they get away with and they seem to be untouchable. Just floors me.
Peabody says
I remember walking into a library to see the Scientology section where all the donated books could be found. That was a big deal back then. Remember that time? Anyway, I was not able to find a single book. So, I asked the librarian where they were. She said, “Oh yea, I remember when we got a ton of those books. We just threw them in the trash.” Just another “bright” idea dreamed up by DM for the explosive expansion of Scientology. Dave’s on a continuous Promote which, according to Hubbard, will keep the “church” in a continuous emergency until all the funds run out. We’re counting on it.
whatareyourcrimes says
So many trees gave up their lives for the turd sandwich of scientology.
Did you know trees scream when they are cut? LRH says so. So it must be true.
YadaMomo says
They really should print these editions on toilet paper so they’re at least useful…..
Kronomex says
Then on ebay you find this –
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Limited-Edition-Dianetics-Leatherbound-Book-Super-Rare-353-500-/302555539418
And this –
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dianetics-L-Ron-Hubbard-Collectible-leather-bound-Commemorative-Edition/273148000448?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D50999%26meid%3Dc2383a1f5a4746799b77bd612add2902%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D302555539418%26itm%3D273148000448&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
Hilarious.
PeaceMaker says
It’s also sad. Some of the other types of “collectibles,” like prints, were discussed not long ago, and what I always ultimately think of, is that someone was taken for lots of money, and is trying to recover some of it at a point that they may need it – but it’s a lost cause.
Curiously, in Sold Items on eBay, there were 2 of the leather Dianetics volumes that went for about $50 each in recent months – it surprises me that they could fetch even that much, there must be some scientologists who are book collectors. Another one went for about $12, which checks out as a more typical actual sale price according to a book dealer listing service I use – at a certain price point, leather books get bought up by decorators for use in filling bookshelves just to make them look impressive.
Certain sorts of items do actually sell on eBay, it’s obvious that a few of the “whales” must collect some of the older and truly rare items, and indies must buy up some of the original “tech” and admin sets in the editions that were printed when Hubbard was still alive. Some large newer sets of books sell for at least a couple of hundred dollars, I assume because people realize that they can save a vast amount of money compared to buying them at an org bookstore, and perhaps because they need to replace materials they were left without after a divorce – in Scientology, that must be a fairly common problem.
Donald King says
I have bought quite a lot of Scientology material over the past few years, purely because I find it interesting. I’ve never bought anything from the ‘church’ itself. Best value is Congress CDs on ebay or Amazon, while CoS try to sell them at absurd prices to the faithful.
whatareyourcrimes says
Great business idea there, Donald King… buy that Hubbard shit for a few pennies and then sell it for a few thousand to the drooling mouth breathers who still remain in scientology.
Aquamarine says
I’d like to have a first printing of “Science of Survival” within which LRH dedicated the book to “Alexis Valerie Hubbard”.
Oh, yeah!
PeaceMaker says
Aqua, they’re available, but unless you luck into one, they cost a couple of hundred dollars. I’m a bit surprised, but booksellers are pricing the first edition as if there are some serious collectors out there, though it may be that books like that are of interest to bibliophiles in some categorical specialty like mid-century pseudo-science. I notice that in later editions, the dedication was changed to Diana Hubbard.
Generally the pattern with items like this is that as the generation to which it was most relevant – which would be baby boomers – passes into old age, more of them come on the market and demand drops. If you can wait a few years, you might get one cheaper.
Aquamarine says
Thanks, PeaceMaker, as or a specific reason involving a specific person, I do want one.
PeaceMaker says
Aqua, abebooks.com has been the go-to site for book collectors, where used and antiquarian bookstores have listed their stock since the early days of the internet – including lots of hard-to-find and rare books. Especially if you are looking for an older edition of a book, the books are better classified and the descriptions are much more accurate than in many of the used book listings that get uploaded to Amazon or put on eBay, plus the sellers are bookies who will respond to specific questions about their stock, understanding the needs of specialists and collectors. The trick with SoS seems to be that there are multiple printings of the first edition, apparently including an early typed manuscript version, and the later printings have the dedication changed, so if you’re willing to spring for a first edition you will still need to be sure that it’s a version that has the dedication you’re looking for – but the ABEbooks booksellers can help you with that!
I’ve long collected some books from the era of self-help and personal development, metaphysics and the occult that preceeded Hubbard – and from which he obviously borrowed a lot – and also have earlier versions of some of the first Dianetics and Scientology books, so that I can refer to some of the whacky stuff, including some of the worst of it that got cut out later. It would be amusing to have one of those first editions of SoS with the dedication to Alexis, but they go for too much to justify given my mostly functional interest in the subject.
RickD says
Really working hard at Clearing Canada too!..video takes you inside their abandoned headquarters..enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u0Z-UnH32E
rickD says
this Is another video of the Canada Headquarters..there were to of what looks to be the same Men filming in each video…so this footage Is related to the one above…
the one above was posted to You Tube Yesterday…
this on on April 17th 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=A9Z8svNowQk
rickD says
here’s a link to the photo gallery
https://www.freaktography.com/urban-exploring-forgotten-canadian-scientology-retreat/
pandiprancer says
what a disgrace to our beautiful Lake Eola Fountain.
I Yawnalot says
Of all the books I’ve ever been associated with Dianetics is by far the worst. It absolutely messes with your head when you try to understand something that is impossible to apply. After a decade on staff and with all the people I’ve met who’ve read the damn thing, I’ve never run into ANYONE who came even come close to applying it as written. In fact when you look at with a Scientological viewpoint it’s the most squirreled application in Scientology.
Every now and again we use to get someone who came in off the street and wanted Dianetics as they had just read it, they’d rave on about file clerks and finger snapping etc but they just got blank stares from the staff or a kind of nervous reaction. They’d get some Book 1 auditing and be quickly regged (sold) something else, or they’d walk out the door (the smart ones!).
Personally I’ve never met such a bunch of people as Scientologists who’d lie to one another so much and consistently over a publication as Dianetics. Plus, it is so poorly written and has got a structure that defies anything I’ve ever learnt about the English language. It’s also blatantly chock a block full of lies as to its claims of what its technology can do for you and the human race.
On the stupidity scale that book and its effect to and within the Scientology mindset bends the pin against its stop.
“Money for nothing and your chicks for free…”
To see such a repeating pitch with it is enough to make the cat puke!
PeaceMaker says
Wow, I thought they were long done with the “limited” and “special” edition scam.
500 seems like a pretty ambitious run to try to sell, about 1 for every 10 scientologists in the US who have a job outside of Scientology (staff or Sea Org), though perhaps they have enough of a concentration of members nearby in the Tampa and Clearwater area to pull it off if they do a “big league sales” press. I wonder if this is the sort of thing they are going to do now, to help the failing orgs being put in oversized buildings to meet their utility expenses, while avoiding the appearance of subsidizing operating costs.
And what are they going to do in that big building,when it gets hot? They better have installed a fancy air conditioning system that allows them only to cool the few areas that will actually be used – and they may struggle to pay even for that, plus a relatively modern office building may well not have windows that can be opened.
Peter Norton says
The really odd thing about it all is that they never actually apply the non existence formula: “Find out what is needed and wanted.” The believe they already have the item(s) and launch direcly into the condition of Emergency and instantly begin to promote, promote, promote. Having bypassed the people they want to reach, they can never go any higher. The condition of Normal is always Non-Existence or, as a possibility,d the condition of Emergency. That has become their Chronic Condition. Worse, they even create their Enemies with activities often loathed by most publics. (Disconnection, anyone? Attack, attack, attack?)
Their ACTUAL condition is, at this point Covert Hostility wherein they internally distrust and fight against anything which is outside their control. Nowadays, almost everything.
PeaceMaker says
Considering that, as I said in another comment recently, Hubbard seemed to take the attitude of “do as I say, not as I do,” it has also followed that Scientology never seems to have really consistently adhered to its own rules or wisdom. Hubbard also introduced the idea of what might be referred by the term situational ethics: that, for instance, “Kha-Khans” who had some major achievement (often, bringing in money) didn’t have to follow the rules.
I think it’s actually pretty characteristic that in the end the CofS often does what is expedient, giving only lip service to their supposed rules and principles, but if they hadn’t resorted to that I’m not sure that they’d have survived as long as they have.
Alex Castillo (ex Flag Evaluator 1975-1981)7 says
Nowadays the biggest, most punishable crime inside the bubble is to allow the GI (Gross Income) stat to go down. Let the GI down and you are instant toast. Nothing else matters. As always, as per Policy, “make money, make more money and then make even more money.
Scientolology is just a criminal money making machine that works like a rigged one arm bandit. It takes your money but doesn’t pay anything back. Just sayin.
Old Surfer Dude says
I think it’s, “Make money, make more money and get other people to make money.” I may be wrong though.
Peter Norton says
Wrong? OSD wrong??? NEVER!!!
Old Surfer Dude says
Have you been drinking, Peter? And why didn’t you invite me???
Norma whiteside says
I love the work you are doing to Expose these thieves. When will you be back on TV? Scientology wins if you do not get back on TV. That means they have scared you off the air. TV is the best way to inform millions at a time how dangerous this cult is.
Old Surfer Dude says
Norma, they are hemorrging members. The only people they can possibly get are those who don’t know how to use Google.
Newcomer says
Yo Dave,
How about a leather bound Depenz for You when You get the Thursday at Too statpush report!
Newcomer says
And OSA,
better throw a big fat belt buckle on that sucker to be sure it holds!
Newcomer says
And Julian,
Are You ready for season three? Ya better let Marion Pouw, Mike Sutter and Hansuili know that there will be incoming! There are some still ins that are getting really tired of the radar and may not care about standing up. I only know of three but then again, who am I but a fringe dweller!
BTW, have another shitty day preparing for Thursday big boy!
Aquamarine says
Leather bound dependz…please, you can’t do this to me 🙂
MJM says
Who’s on a trip of power and glory
Smirking at everybody he sees
Who’s reaching out to capture more money
Everyone knows it’s Davy
And Davy has steely eyes
To watch as a new morgue dies
And Davy’s the king of lies
Upon his throne
Who’s hiding out from all of the SPs
Hiring attorneys who charge giant fees
Who’s ripping off the sheep in the bubble
Everyone knows it’s Davy
And Davy has steely eyes
To watch as a new morgue dies
And Davy’s the king of lies
Upon his throne
Aquamarine says
MJM, are we officially in the Golden Age of Parodies now? 🙂
MJM says
It’s a musical revue of DM’s future incarceration called the Golden Offloading of Dave, or GOD.
Aquamarine says
🙂
Aquamarine says
Hey MJM, I want to submit one for the musical revue!
Small and tan and mean and ugly
The guy from Hemet Cali goes walking
And when he passes
The Sea Org lasses go “Ugh”.
When he walks just like a Nazi
With RTC his personal Stasi
So when he passes
Each one he plasses goes “Ugh”.
Oh, how they watch him so sadly.
How can they tell him they hate him?
Yes, they would leave Int Base gladly
So each day as they run ’round a tree
They plot and they plan to get free.
Small and tan and mean and ugly
The guy from Hemet Cali goes walking
And when he passes they smile
And plan to get free
They want to be free
They need to be free
Old Surfer Dude says
Outstanding post! I was singing along with you!
MJM says
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Aquamarine says
Me too. MJM is the James Patterson of Parodies. A tremendous body of work 🙂
Mick Roberts says
Only 500 individually numbered copies of this unique edition will be made available, which makes it seem “special”, in that if you don’t get yours fast, you will miss out.
However, I’d be willing to bet that IF they can find (coerce?) 500 people into buying this special edition, and IF they believe they could sell/force a few more to buy them, and IF more people are begging for their own “uniquely numbered special edition” (and all of that put together sure is one mighty big “IF”), they would be more than willing to print out as many of these “unique and rare” copies as they can sell.
For the next “unique” edition, just add a little more green tint to the covers of the next batch of 500 and call them “unique”.
Alcoboy says
Mick, every Ideal Org does this. They have Bridge Publications print 500 ‘special editions’ of Dianetics for their org and then peddle them off for about $500 to $1000 apiece. And, yes, suckers do buy them.
Old Surfer Dude says
Those are the heavy duty Kool-Ade drinkers.
Robert Almblad says
They couldn’t find 500 buyers at any price…. the days of “easy money” are over. For instance I have seen my good friend’s photo of his “humanitarian” donation used over and over the past 6 months. New faces are getting harder to find, so they use the old ones over and over…..
T-Marie says
Yep.
Badafuco says
Yeah but this one has a beautiful turquoise satin ribbon to hold your place!
*eyeroll*
MJM says
Get on the road to serfdom
Help us fleece all mankind
The money you must borrow
You know damn well is mine
Alcoboy says
I wanna hear John Travolta sing THIS version!
MJM says
Do it as part of a fundraiser and call it Saturday Night Fleecer.
Old Surfer Dude says
Saturday Night Fleecer! Outstanding!
Aquamarine says
Can you do one of “We Stand Tall” or have you already done that, MJM?
Old Surfer Dude says
We Stand Tall! We have our cretes, isn’t it great!
Alcoboy says
Wait, who’s that?
Travolta: (enters the room) GET ON THE ROAD TO FREEDOM!
HELP US FREE ALL MANKIND! YOUR PAIN AND………
Me: AHHHHHH, SHUDDUPP, JOHN!
Travolta: You…..you……you invalidated me! How dare you! I am on a level just below Tom Cruise! I’m writing a KR on you!
Me: Go ahead. Write a hundred for all I care! Here’s a pad of paper and a pen.
Well, go ahead! Start writing!
Dr. Strabismus of Utrecht says
Gosh! They know the difference between “embossed” and “debossed”! Now THAT’S going to clear the planet 47X faster…
2muchmonkeybidness says
I got dianetics for $1.25. It ended up in recycling. I don’t like the idea of destroying books, but this one has devastated too many lives; it had to be tossed.
They have a big MU with “humanitarian”. Hint: It does NOT mean giving money to a life-destroying cult!
Deanoftruth says
“There must be something in books, something we can’t imagine, to make a woman stay in a burning house; there must be something there. You don’t stay for nothing.”
― Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
MJM says
Interesting definition I came across:
high-toned (adjective) Pretentiously elegant
Old Surfer Dude says
Pretentiously elegant? That’s just so, what’s the word, pretentious.
Nan B. says
So, you have the Farlex Free Dictionary App, too.
Isn’t it fun?
Peter Norton says
Miscavige has broken so many of Hubbard’s rules, he’s become a Degraded Being unto himself. I was in for 16 years and can’t any longer recognize anything that’s being done. Ooops! “Always attack, never defend” is the only tech left actually being practiced. It has all become oh so dreary. The really big whales should long ago have become embarrassedl. But “in for a penny, in for a pound” seems to be their rallying call.
xenu's son says
With the new ideal org it will be renamed lake Ebola.Not that that will hurt the org visitor count.
xenu's son says
Scientology searches seem to be hitting lowest ever on Google in Orlando county.Last week most days 0 or thereabouts.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US-FL-534&q=scientology
Old Surfer Dude says
I swam in Lake Ebola once. It caused me to grow a 6th finger. Not sure what to do with it.
I Yawnalot says
I don’t believe you’re trying hard enough, there’s always something useful to do with an extra finger.
Old Surfer Dude says
You’re right! A 6th finger can come in very handy. Hmmmmm….
Aquamarine says
You and Ann Boleyn, OSD. Supposedly she had a 6th finger.
Old Surfer Dude says
Holy shit! Is it spreading??
Kronomex says
If the digit grew on your head you would be able to scratch any itches without having to move your hands. That has to be a bonus. Just thought; you could give someone the finger while keeping your hands in your pockets.
Deanoftruth says
“My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!”
Peter Norton says
OSD, sometimes you really leave yourself wide open for a retort!!! LOL
Old Surfer Dude says
I retorted once. The smell was terrible.
BKmole says
Oh,oh! Love the special editions. Just like the limited addition prints that ASI sold for Battlefield Earth and Mission Earth that when Scientology took over the world would be worth 1/2 million dollars.
Where are those prints now? Hanging in the bathroom or in the trash.
Amazing that the sheeple can’t see it as they are being fleeced.
Mary Kahn says
I have a friend still in who had over 100K worth of those confiscated by the IRS because he was in arrears. The IRS tried to auction them off and had XERO, I mean, ZERO takers and ended up giving them back to the sciemtologist.
Old Surfer Dude says
I hope this person wakes up soon.
BKmole says
Mary, great story. The cult money schemes seem endless now that I’m out.
Newcomer says
Those Frazzeta prints were a real steal at 2k a pop …………. or whatever they went for. When the cherch came for my wife and told her to lose the bastard or you will never see your kids ………….. I said she could have the prints ………… and every other scrap of paper or plastic that had any connection to the cult. By that time we had pallets of books (I think they were called the basics) sent by Paul Miller from Flog in some sort of clandestine deal he cooked up, plus leather bound editions of everything imaginable ……….. along with pounds and pounds of cherch stuff, not to mention e-frickin meters …. up the yang!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had hit and blown through the wall of disbelief …………. ” all of this valuable stuff is yours …….!” A veritable treasure trove of useless Daveshit.
I traded it in to get my life back. Now that was a deal!
jim says
Newcomer,
FREEDOM…..IS…..PRICELESS
Komodo Dragon says
And so is being able to speak your mind! As well as throwing out all Scamology materials.
Old Surfer Dude says
I had a lot of cult books that I threw out. There is nothing, absolutely nothing good about Scientology. It’s all bad. It has no redeeming value. It’s evil. Evil to the core.
BKmole says
Newcomer, glad to see you are free from sciebots and the Seaborg staff.
MJM says
Like my Yiddish uncle used to say: “Es iz vert a zets in drerd” — It’s worthless; it’s useless; it’s pissing in the wind.
hgc10 says
Gey kocken offen yom
Meryl Weiner says
Hopefully, Davey has a hat to do that in:-D
MJM says
Since he’s already full of shit, he’ll need a lot more than a hat.
Meryl says
True dat?
Old Surfer Dude says
I pissed into the wind once. It came back at me.
Newcomer says
And to think Dave has been in a hurricane for years!
Clue numero uno …….. piss isn’t the only thing that comes back!
SILVIA says
Wow, a turquoise satin ribbon? Oh my God, that is quite something…. and for sure this will close the sale!
Wynski says
Ooo! A leather-bound Diuretics book.
Now you can find out why a seven-year-old girl who shudders because Hubbard kisses her passionately is not computing; she is reacting to an engram since at seven she should see nothing wrong in a kiss, not even a passionate one.
I Yawnalot says
My goodness, what did that cow do to pull that in!
BOLO-Be On Look Out says
Books, books, and more books…and the still “in” scientology people get so offended when they are used for door stops and other more useful purposes.
Newcomer says
The damn stuff won’t even make a decent compost pile! When the cherch folds all other living creatures can breath a sigh for the over the top resource consumption will take a noticable dip.
Kasey Briggs says
Take up paper mache or book crafting.