This is a recent promo piece put out by the IAS.
It would lead one to believe that it is the IAS that “reached” 117 million people with the WTH over the last 12 months. That the hundreds of millions of dollars they receive annually is what finances the “4th Dynamic campaigns.”
Remember all the promotion you see from the IAS about how their job is to carry out the “4th Dynamic” campaigns to salvage earth? And how THEY are the ones who are doing this to “guarantee the future of scientology”?
This one appeared in the Thursday Funnies edition a couple of weeks ago.
Well, if the above is true, then how can this latest promotional item be true?
Here, the WTH Fdn is trying to recruit staff by promoting how you can make money selling WTH booklets — they pay a 10% commission.
Why if the IAS is supporting the distribution of WTH does anyone need to be making money by selling the booklets?
Someone is lying here — these two things cannot BOTH be true.
And the answer is — it’s the IAS.
They give a bit of money to a few things — WTH distribution, CCHR, “Youth For Human Rights,” Narconon and others and then CLAIM EVERYTHING THEY DO as being “a result of your support of the IAS.” And when I say they give a bit of money, I seriously mean a BIT. A tiny, tiny percentage of what they collect. Less than 1%. But they keep telling the fools that hand over millions to them that it is THEIR money that is “making a difference.” Meanwhile, these “4th Dynamic Campaigns” are ALWAYS scraping, scratching, begging and borrowing to get funds for their activities.
The ONLY thing the IAS spends money on is REAL ESTATE and lavish fundraising events.
It is a sham and a scam.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
Hey, was Tom Cruise at the Oscars? I didn’t see him. Maybe his licorice golden medal of freedom bicycle chain valor trinket around his neck weighed him down to get his ass over to the Oscar ceremonies.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
“You’d almost think a certified SP was running the show.” Mike Rinder, this sentence encapsulates it all. If you ever make a movie of your experience with $cientology, this should be the title “You’d almost think a certified SP was running the show.” That line is just PERFECT! Damn-it I wish I had come up with it! Bless you my brother!
Ann B Watson says
It has taken me years to rinse the Ron Aid out of my mind and body. I realized when I first started blogging here, there was alot more in my own Sea Org journey I had obscured and had not truly wanted to examine. In other words I still has shards of glass with You are a traitor to the Sea Org running through my blood. What happened in the less than four years for me to come to a place where I know I see the cult finally for what it does and is? Well the IAS for one. A more sorry excuse for money grubbing I have not yet seen, unless one counts the bejeweled OT Levels. No, Ron created Scientology from bits and pieces cobbled together and woven into his own fantasy world ” religion ” dm continues with even more frantic efforts to keep the enormous Scam floating. But the worst to me about the cult are the out and out Lies. Ripping apart families, sometimes forever, trying to destroy those who have ever dared question the brutality and coldness and cruelty of the use of Ron’s Tech and Policies. The use of Attack on one and all they hold dear relentlessly trying to up their ante of pain and command control. And the terrible cover up of all those brave souls who passed while in Scientology or after leaving it.Either by disease, suicide or murder as in Lisa McPherson’s tragic case and many others. Makes me cry and feel very sad for those coping with a loss like the death of a child or sibling or husband or wife, friend or lover, while giving their all to Ron/dm and the ” Dream” of eternity on Target Infinite with Old Ron and the gang. I cannot think of a worse hell. When I depart by the grace and love of what I call God, may I fly high and so far above any path that leads anywhere near a cult such as this. It is time for the cult to begin the implosion which will speed up as bodies in stop coming in and the last lot of whales and those still sleepwalking to the OTs and back down the bridge again, are tended obsolete and Scientology is just a tiny blip on the face of the Universe. Not even there. Love you Mike and you Rascals all…..Thank you for letting me do a little ranting.. ?
WhatAreYourCrimes says
Rinse, repeat. Rinse. repeat. You are a precious person. I love and respect you, but please realize LRH is an anti-christ who has deceived you, Research it!
I Yawnalot says
Your ‘rant’ well understood Ann. Thank you for your thoughts, peace to you and yours.
gato rojo says
Wow….IAS Administrations sure is doing a great job, huh?
I Yawnalot says
I mentioned something y’day about how a light is now being shone into the darker recesses of a successful criminal scam. That comment had me appreciate all the people that stood up in the earlier days and took a hit for the truth about what Scientology truly is as they were ostracized by both their enemy, friends and at times their family. But as an organised group endeavor, Scientology is a scam and a major criminal enterprise. Maybe it didn’t start out that way but that’s beside the point, reading the above makes me cringe with the repetitiveness of the simple childlike lying the IAS engages in. But the thing is – from their perspective it works, and has done so for a long time. The fact the Cof$ is shrinking, ducking for cover legally and has backed off totally from legally aggressive litigation against those that now speak against it speaks volumes about the ones profiting from it all, they don’t give a shit really. They feel safe legally and will continue to do what they are doing until they are stopped, either legally, through media pressure, or simply by no more members or maybe some surprise comes along we didn’t see coming & rids us of this pestilence. Presently the Scientology signature has the legal blessing from the US Constitution and the IRS. There’s enough shame involved with all of this to cause the downfall of the Cof$ if enough pressure is brought to bear with the truth.
A cure for the Scientology enterprise presents quite the puzzle.
Jens TINGLEFF says
A puzzle indeed.
I hope more ex-victims will overcome the PTSD and the programmed-in “blame the victim” mentality inflicted by the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology and make reports (of criminal fraud, of undue influence destroying lives) to the police.
While some prosecutions end up poorly (as the recent Belgian one), others end up successfully (as the French one), so I hope there’s more success to be had. Civil law suits require huge reserves, but the Co$ is breaking criminal law, and there must be a prosecutor somewhere out there who can do better than the ones in Riverside…
Sky says
I think this article, mike should be printed on paper and dropped from an airplane across the US. Hell. The world.
Oodles of them. So they can land EVERYWHERE!
OTVIIIisGrrr8! says
We in the IASA most strenuously object to the defamatory characterization of our activities as a sham. Why to read the entheta presented here makes it sound like we in the IASA are ruthless con men, hustlers, or grifters working a scam. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are an elite Sea Org unit whose recent stats, as we are promoting, include reducing the amount of garbage slovenly Italians leave in a movie theater where TWTH PSA’s are shown.
“Less garbage” is a crucial stat for it shows that planetary clearing is real and it is happening. After all, it stands to reason that less garbage inevitably leads to less crime and less crime leads to increased sanity and increased sanity leads to a world wherein there is peace and Scientology Orgs say what is legal.
As for we in the IAS spending 1% of what we take in, well it is a matter of exchange. We can only donate to activities where there is bean exchange. To give wogs, SP’s, DB’s, 1.1’s and all the rest of the homo sap trash on the streets and in the gutters free TWTH booklets, food, or some sort of “charity” is out exchange as they give us nothing in return. However, when the IAS purchases a building, the building has its exchange fully in and gives us appreciation, status, and increase our real estate portfolio and net worth. This is why salvaging real estate is always better than salvaging wogs. Seriously, unless a wog has $360,000 and is in need of change on Scientology’s terms we have no need for these weird aberrated wogs and their bizarre computations such as Democracy and freedom of speech. Such nonsensical Psych think is just a smokescreen to attack Scientology.
And one more thing: Those robots and walking circuits at Pac Base send body routers out to work Vermont and Sunset from morning til evening all day everyday and what happens? We’ll tell you what happens: Wogs throw away the free tickets they are given to see the Orientation film. These free tickets litter the streets of Hollywood and offer glaring proof that Pac Base is a failed Base. For this reason, we in the IASA strongly believe that COB should shut down PAC Base and deed the entire property to the IASA for our use in staging the “Final Push” to planetary clearing.
threefeetback says
Grrr8!,
Dave’s low budget tenant improvement on the Valley Mortuary is looking like his typical CLUSTERFUCK. He has the new exterior signage up while they are still painting the outside of the building. This is a sure sign that he has an uncontrollable hankering to yank a ribbon before March 13th.
If Dave fails to yank before the 13th, will we see his head on a pike on the corner of Burbank Blvd and Lankershim Blvd? And if so, will the IASA step up to the plate to cough up the cash to finish the job? We all know that Dave has already hidden the 10+ million up his butt.
Gravitysucks says
Safe deposit box? Lol. Maybe a more secure vault.
chuckbeatty77 says
Wow! YOu came up with a great new Scientology strategic slogan!
Rather than Clearing the Planet.
Cleaning the Planet!
RPF all staff, close all orgs, for the final push, and engage all followers in the new Way to Happiness basic precept and
Clean the Planet!
bob90805 says
The Way to Happiness is basally worthless because it is not actually practised by COB and staff.
jgg2012 says
COB never does auditing either.
Old Surfer Dude says
Maybe they should go back to, The Way to Slappiness.
Joe Pendleton says
Not true. COB brushes his teeth fifteen times a day … right after he washes his hands.
peggy2176il says
Clearing the planet?????????? if they really looked around, things are worse, not better. They fail, an fail miserably.
Somebody tell CO$ that his WTH hasn’t even helped ants, the hardest workers of all and they get fed well and run effectively. Perhaps he can use their playbook.
Seriously, someone needs to start taking people out of each and every Org and start deprogramming them.
I guess eventually people will die off or run out of money, then what?
Old Surfer Dude says
Then they merge with the Moonies…
xenu's son says
Bashing scienology is like beeating up an85 yo.
rogerHornaday says
Indeed, a very VERY naughty 85 year-old!
Old Surfer Dude says
Very naughty? Then bitch slap the old timer.
Eleanor Milward says
I don’t believe they are “bashing” Scientology, but rather trying more to expose them. Which in fact is actually a service to the public. Beware before you sign on.
Espiando says
An eighty-five-year-old homophobe who condemns me to an eternity of suffering because of who I sleep with, and who lied about his service during WWII? I’d say he deserves a couple of punches in the face. And, yes, I would enjoy doing so and have no compunctions about it.
Old Surfer Dude says
But, Espi, you’d have to go to Target 2! I mean, it would great to punch out fatso, but, you’d have to go across the universe.
Gimpy says
I hope they don’t make it to 85., what is it 67 now? Stats are at an all time low but they are still hanging in there. I just think of it as a ludicrous cult these days, they’d be a joke if they weren’t still dangerous.
rogerHornaday says
The real sham and scam is the notion that all this business about creating “a world without crime and insanity…” etc. has ever been anything but a sales gimmick and a prop. There has never been a plan to clear the planet. There has never been a step-by-step outline or anything indicating a purposeful intention to achieve it. It’s just high-sounding altruistic blather to give the “tech” a veneer of great importance upon which to pin an exorbitant price tag.
People love thinking they’re part of a movement to ‘clear the planet” but that notion is sheer selfish egotism and vanity. It is NOT rooted in a desire to help, as some like to believe when they offer excuses for the duped, claiming they have ‘good intentions’. Baloney.
Charity begins at home, as the old adage states and it’s true. If scientologists were REALLY motivated by altruism they wouldn’t disconnect from their friends and family. They wouldn’t be loath to help those who need assistance and compassion, those who are made of flesh and blood standing directly in front of them.
Dave Fagen says
I agree with paragraphs 1 & 3 of Roger’s comment.
But paragraph 2: “People love thinking they’re part of a movement to ‘clear the planet” but that notion is sheer selfish egotism and vanity. It is NOT rooted in a desire to help, as some like to believe when they offer excuses for the duped, claiming they have ‘good intentions’. Baloney.”
WRONG.
Most of us wanted to be in a movement to “clear the planet” with a sincere desire to help. Myself and many others I know, and knew, personally. For you to imply that the only way that someone would ever want to be part of a movement to make the world a better place would be because of sheer selfish egotism and vanity is way way off. Do you really think that the only reason a person could possibly spend so many years of his life dedicated to this “movement” was so that he could brag about how much better of a person he was than the “lowlife” that had regular jobs and raised families?
I’m sure for some people, the motivation was egotism and vanity, but your comment implies that that is the only motivation. For most of us, it was a sincere desire to help that was severely exploited, and the exploitation was backed up by our over-zealousness, our illogic, our gullibility and our refusal to think outside of the box.
IsleOfWhy says
Speaking only for myself as a former public, I agree with rogerHornaday.
I was initially drawn to Scientology because I wanted to improve conditions in MY life and better MY communication and interpersonal skills. I stayed far longer than I should because I was worried about MY own eternity. Never anyone else’s.
During my two decades in the cult, I might have spared a brief, sad thought for the underprivileged, homeless, victims of natural disasters, abused children, etc., but certainly not enough to act. I actively did NOT care about drug users, people who were ill in body or mind, and if I’m being honest, all wogs. They pulled in their own misfortune, so keep them away lest they cause harm to ME. (Besides, any disposable income that might otherwise have gone to charitable causes was already spoken for.)
Although I certainly THOUGHT in terms of helping clear the planet, there was nothing altruistic in any of my ACTIONS. On the other hand, I intentionally and remorselessly inflicted emotional damage on others through disconnection.
rogerHornaday says
I completely understand your objection to my seemingly cynical comment about peoples’ motivation to ‘help the world’ being vain and egotistical rather than laudable.
The reason I became a registered nurse was because I wanted to have the capacity to help injured people. That’s normal. Becoming an auditor to help individuals is one thing but trying to save the WORLD is the classic way to stir mischief. As J. Krishnamurti said, “So many people want world peace but they’re at war with each other about how to achieve it.”
That includes scientologists from the beginning. They always gave lip service to helping the world but looked down on the people of the world for not being scientologists! And another thing: people working to save the world are really working to advance their importance. “I am the important one because I am saving the world!” I don’t think our desire to do good can ever be exploited, only our desire to be important.
That goes a long way in explaining the typically insufferable attitude of the average scientologist towards the surrounding world.
marildi says
“And another thing: people working to save the world are really working to advance their importance.”
I don’t know about Krishnamurti, but there are certainly other spiritual teachers and many others who want to “save the world.” For example:
“The Bodhisattva vow is the vow taken by Mahayana Buddhists to attain complete enlightenment for the sake of all sentient beings.”
…all sentient beings.
rogerHornaday says
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions” or: “scientologists just wanted to help.”
PeaceMaker says
marildi, I don’t think you can really compare the Buddhists pursuing a humble and compassionate spiritual path hoping that will have benefits for all mankind, and Scientologists who think that they are “homo novis” and who intend to impose “the only workable new civilization and technology” on the planet Hubbard was a utilitarian who believed that the ends justified the means, including to “delete” individuals not susceptible to his methods, and who despised sympathy as one of the worst of emotions; that puts Scientology completely at odds with virtually all of the world’s other religious and spiritual traditions – and there are reams of quotes clearly exposing that ugly side.
For any sort of comparison, you’d have to look to the small minority of religions, and often extremist the sects of major religions, to find those who both believe that they have the one true path to save the world, and clearly seek worldwide totalitarian control to implement it universally. The medieval Catholic church of the crusades and the inquisition, and ISIS, are the most obvious examples. And there are a lot religious groups with general beliefs about saving the planet that compare in their idealism and single-minded self-certainty, though I can’t think of any that have Scientology’s explicit doctrines about taking over the planet through whatever ruthless tactics necessary.
Now of course there are exceptions for individual Scientologists, and all the apologism about how Scientology is different outside the CofS. But the extent to which Scientologists tolerate or even participate in abuses like disconnection and the RPF within the CofS, and that those outside still make excuses for them, exposes some ugly truths.
marildi says
PM, I wasn’t comparing Buddhists and Scientologists in any other way than to say there have indeed been people who were involved in scientology with the idea that they were going to help not only themselves but the whole world – just like some (but not all) Buddhists. And the basic philosophy of Scientology completely aligns with that purpose, irrespective of what came later.
Actually, I’m sure many of the people who post on this blog had that purpose, as well as some like you and Roger who apparently didn’t. This isn’t a criticism of anybody, in any case.
PeaceMaker says
marildi, I’m still not clear exactly what you’re getting at, but perhaps I misunderstood. Regardless, Buddhism seems like the least apt comparison for Scientology, even though Hubbard actually co-opted a lot from them.
The actual basic philosophy of Scientology is Hubbard’s well-documented “Men are your slaves” egoistic utilitarianism, to help oneself regardless of the cost to others. That’s dressed up in a sham of humanitarian idealism, and indeed many Scientologists were attracted by that veneer and even thought that was what it was really all about. But as this part of the discussion has covered, many were also lured by the appeal to ego, and even to personal power, that were among the clear underlying forces. And we can observe the mantle of Hubbard’s selfish and thoughtless utilitarianism that Scientologists ended up taking on, in all the petty examples of callousness and even cruelty documented here (including in Regraded Being) and elsewhere, all the times they stood mute to injustice or the suffering of others for fear of sacrificing their own “case gain” or even their imagined “eternity.”
And I’m not sure what you’re getting at about some like Roger and I.
I had the same good intentions that others speak to, but was bothered by the obvious contradictions from the start, though I can understand how others didn’t see through them until later.
rogerHornaday says
marildi, the Bodhisattva ideal is a metaphor for showing unconditional compassion. It is not an actual aim to impose a doctrine or system on the world for its salvation.
There is NOTHING laudable about wanting to save mankind. There IS something laudable about going out of your way to assist a person in the flesh (as opposed to the collective in your mind). Sorry, no cigar for DAY DREAMING about saving the world! 🙂
Therefore you have actually demonstrated by use of that metaphor how scientology, while professing the objective of saving mankind, yet demonstrating contempt for mankind, (wogs) does NOT share the aims of Buddhism.
PeaceMaker says
Roger, thanks for an eloquent explanation of that.
Pondering the subject, it occurs to me, Buddhists are willing to be spiritually and even materially generous without any expectation in return – as are those of many other traditions. But Hubbard’s doctrine of “exchange” means that Scientologists are not supposed to do anything without expecting something in return, or at least expecting to gain some advantage. Once again, that puts them diametrically opposed to most of the rest of the world’s spiritual and religious traditions.
Dave Fagen says
“That includes scientologists from the beginning. They always gave lip service to helping the world but looked down on the people of the world for not being scientologists! And another thing: people working to save the world are really working to advance their importance. “I am the important one because I am saving the world!” I don’t think our desire to do good can ever be exploited, only our desire to be important.”
True in many cases, but believe it or not, not all of us were like that, and I was just objecting to the general implication you made that the desire to clear the planet, was by definition, equal to “selfish egotism and vanity”; and then continued by saying, “That includes scientologists from the beginning. They always gave lip service to helping the world but looked down on the people of the world for not being scientologists! And another thing: people working to save the world are really working to advance their importance. “I am the important one because I am saving the world!” I don’t think our desire to do good can ever be exploited, only our desire to be important.”
You make it sound as if it’s impossible to sincerely desire to make the planet a better place and the only reason anyone would ever want to do that is to make themselves more important than others. Again, I will say that it is a common thing among Scientologists, but to generalize like you are doing, it’s just not accurate. Some of us sincerely wanted to make the planet a better place (the fact that we a wrong turn in doing that is beside the point) and we did not think that we were better or more important than others.
May be hard for you to believe that but your general statement is just not the full truth.
rogerHornaday says
Dave, how can I, a scientologist who is confessedly “aberrated”, presume to save mankind from aberrations? The question isn’t whether that presumption is ignorant because obviously it is. The question is whether that ignorance has selfishness and vanity beneath it. Arrogance. I say it does.
I say that arrogance is an intrinsic human tendency as is anger, jealousy, etc. Otherwise I would have inquired more deeply into this “scientology” rather than believing in it willy nilly. Had I inquired more deeply it would have become obvious it doesn’t have the means to transform individual humans let alone the species.
In short, the intrinsic arrogance of my human nature, or rather the TENDENCY toward it, is the very ‘aberration’ that made me presume to think I could help rid the collective whole of ‘aberrations’.
For the record, I don’t subscribe to the notion that our often problematic human tendencies are “aberrations”. They are merely symptoms. At any rate, it isn’t my aim to demonize but to refute claims that virtuous motives led us into the snake pit.
Dave Fagen says
“Dave, how can I, a scientologist who is confessedly “aberrated”, presume to save mankind from aberrations?”
The only possibility you give as an answer to this is vanity, selfishness, etc.
How about the misconception: “I may be aberrated, but I have been provided a tech that can overcome that and make it possible for me to help others no matter how aberrated I am, and by working together, we can all make each other less aberrated”? You don’t think that anyone had that idea, an idea not dominated by selfish egotism and vanity?
OK, so you’re saying that anyone, no matter who it was, in 100% of the cases, without exception, who wanted to be a part of a group that wanted to “clear the planet” were selfish and vain, and none of them had a sincere desire to help.
I think that’s what you’re saying because you are not acknowledging even the possibility that there could even be exceptions.
You are right at least in that there are Scientologists, current and former, who wanted to be part of a group that wanted to “clear the planet” who were motivated by selfishness and vanity. No doubt about that. Maybe most of them, I don’t know. But not all of them.
I think you got an idea that has a lot of truth in it, and because this is something you have observed to be the case, you now refuse to even look at the possibility that there were some who were not like that. Maybe you have never personally noticed or observed a Scientologist who sincerely wanted to help and was not motivated by selfishness, vanity and status-seeking, so you don’t want to observe or acknowledge the idea that there could ever be any other reason for someone wanting to be part of this “movement”.
rogerHornaday says
I am quick to believe what appeals to me. But when I’m informed of something I don’t want to believe I check the intelligence of authoritative sources and acquaint myself with circulating criticisms. That is to say, I DO MY HOMEWORK.
My haste to believe what I want to believe is not based on any virtue. It’s based on pandering to my preferences. I call that ‘self-indulgence’ and it sets me up to be a mark. But whatever name you give it, it is a human weakness 100% of the time. That is my opinion.
Again, I’m not blaming anybody. We all play the fool many times in this life and the reason for that is we ARE fools many times in this life.
marildi says
Dave Fagen: “For most of us, it was a sincere desire to help that was severely exploited, and the exploitation was backed up by our over-zealousness, our illogic, our gullibility and our refusal to think outside of the box.”
Well said, Dave. And as for what we learned regarding “our over-zealousness, our illogic, our gullibility and our refusal to think outside of the box,” those lessons were invaluable.
I Yawnalot says
I think the main lesson to come out of Scientology is a group thing. Hubbard showed us exactly how NOT to go about it. What we applied to it was what the technology promised we would get out of it – we had it all the time. We only ever needed the motivation. Hubbard targeted the motivation of people and exploited it. That’s all Miscavige has ever done.
The scam of it all reflects around the point that the highest echelon/attainment/knowledge of Scientology technology is the definition of Self-Determinism, in other words Q1 sits at the top of the triangle. The technology goes no higher than that. The group aspect and targeted marketing of cause over life is pure speculation. (the old Cleared cannibal trick) Yet, Scientology’s own system of application could only ever point toward the attainment of Q1, no where else, any other goal stated by Scientology is a lie. But Q1 was booby trapped in the Scientology system because no-one was ever permitted to obtain it. Are the Dynamics yours to be cause over? The church won’t allow that. It’s a false path because Hubbard showed us he sure couldn’t be cause over them. The more I reflect on the tech and my in-depth study and application of it, it was the kool-aid I was drinking that was the main thing doing both me and the group in. If anything take solace in the fact Scientology eventually got you to be self determined about it. What you do with it outside the confines of the Cof$ is entirely up to you. If anyone tells you otherwise, it’s just another trap warming itself up.
Living outside the box is valuable indeed. Seeing the lies about what the box is composed of is valuable too.
Still love me, drugs, sex and rock and roll!
PeaceMaker says
Dave, I think you are right to challenge any categorization that seems too broad. Clearly Scientology attracted a lot of people who truly wanted to help others and to help make a better planet for humanity, and the CofS even exploited those impulses. On the other hand, I find a comment that someone made a while back to have a disturbing amount of truth to it, that many who leave Scientology don’t find new humanitarian pursuits but retreat into themselves, calling into question how altruistic they really were all along.
The thing that occurs to me, would be to say that Scientology appealed to many who wanted to BE the people to save the planet – the “homo novis” who would know the truth and be more capable to deliver mankind. That may not have been everyone’s motivation, but there is that undeniable appeal to a really glorified role.
Hubbard exalted the ego and considered that it should be unleashed rather than subdued, in contrast to most religious and spiritual traditions (but in keeping with the selfish utilitarianism of Crowley’s OTO). So it’s not surprising that there is a lot of ego appeal, and appeal to egoists, in Scientology.
Dave Fagen says
There could be other reasons why someone who originally had a sincere desire to help as a new Scientologist, now does not find new humanitarian pursuits but retreats into himself, besides just that his original motivation for becoming a Scientologist was status-seeking egotism and vanity.
Of course that could be one of the reasons, and it may even be the most common reason.
An example of another reason for that could be that he now feels “disillusioned” because of the betrayal he has experienced in Scientology and doesn’t feel that help is possible. There may be others.
The things you are Roger are saying have a lot of truth in them, and are very astute observations. (You’re not saying that egotism and vanity were the only motivations, but Roger is). For all I know, egotism and vanity may be the most common motivation, I don’t know.
All I’m saying is that egotism and vanity are not the only possible motivation for wanting to be part of a group whose goal it was to “clear the planet”. Some of us were sincere and passionate about helping others and improving conditions and were not doing it to prove to ourselves and to the world how superior we were to other humans.
rogerHornaday says
P.S. I really must make time to write the tale of a terribly sincere do-gooder who was denied entry into heaven then subsequently kicked out of hell!
Gravitysucks says
A world without criminality.
Infiltrate law enforcement agencies, bribe governing officials. Overload the judicial system, cry foul, scream * hater hater*, *discrimination*, until legal lines are blurred. The tax exempt status, and being a CHERCH blankets many atrocities within.
Money talks, bs walks. If govts can be persuaded with co$ $, laws will change. Murder wont be murder, stalking won’t be stalking. Slander wont be slander, human trafficking will just become a religious field trip. Criminalityblurrr.
A world without insanity. Hmm. If the Cos anti-Psych movement had been successful, psych diagnoses, would be no more. People coming into the cult might not recognise that his “tech” was borrowed from psychiatrists, and tweaked so he could trademark that emeter.
If Hubbard, then Mcsavage could program church followers, to think the same way, then no need for anyone outside the organisation to study the mind. No insanity. Hubbard took his info from the early to mid1900s, wrote it into his mfg religion, end story. No insanity. You do what they say, and you’ll think what they tell you. Some followers believe they have “studied the mind”, from what is in Hubbard’s simplistic teachings.
BKmole says
Mike, having seen all the WTH videos, they are well done and probably do have some value in reminding people about acting more ethically. So I’m sure those testimonials are real. Here’s the catch; The cost to make those PSAs was minimal, all in house except for a few actors and director Taron Lexton. Then they charge members so they can give away a few DVDs and as a result they are saving the world. Not to mention Scientologists don’t practice what they preach in those PSAs. This is all absolute hypocrisy as scamotology digs itself deeper in a hole they can’t get out of.
Valerie says
There used to be just the teeniest of a pretense that scientology was not all about money. The IRS has looked the other direction for so long, they have dropped all pretense.
To anyone under the radar reading this: where does any money go? Who is the beneficiary?
Only David Miscavige gets any of the money. No one gets training or auditing anymore, except a small token here and there as an excuse to,shake you down for more money.
David Miscavige and his ever increasing lollipop head will soon not be able to go out in public because his head is now approximately a third of his body size. His alcoholism and/or anorexia have turned him into a caricature of himself.
Compare 2013 in Portland
http://tonyortega.org/2013/05/12/scientology-sunday-funnies-portland-is-now-cleared-on-to-the-rest-of-earth/
To 2016 IAS Awards
http://tonyortega.org/2017/02/24/whale-watching-2017-edition-whos-keeping-scientology-from-sinking/#more-37946
To see how much his head/body ratio has distorted.
Coming up with more ways to take everyone’s money must not be a healthy profession.
Cindy says
Valerie, Wow! I was just thinking the same thing. I saw his pics on yesterday’s post and thought, wow, that head looks like it has been photoshopped on top of his body. Now seeing the two links you provide, it is true that his head is growing and his body is not and now it is disproportional. Do you think it is the alcoholism?
L Yash says
His EGO is the reason his head has swelled, it’s as simple as that.
Old Surfer Dude says
I’ll buy that. Makes sense.
Cindy says
laughing out loud. Touche.
I Yawnalot says
Body to head size ratio, an ‘accurate’ observation!
visitor says
2 possibilities to consider (there may be other explanations; the below is speculation/opinions):
People who use human growth hormone – sometimes their heads get bigger. There were claims (I don’t know if true) that supposedly this happened to Barry Bonds. Could Miscavige be using growth hormone to try to increase his diminutive size? After all, the ant-Scn community makes fun of DM’s short stature.
As one ages, the spine shrinks and the trunk gets smaller. Usually that happens very late in life, but DM is reportedly a heavy smoker and drinker, and those may accelerate the shrinkage?
Just guesses. Others can speculate if they wish.
I Yawnalot says
Is he really a heavy smoker?
Espiando says
I prefer to spread happiness in my way. And my way doesn’t include any of L. Fraud’s 21 principles. I do occasionally make an exception for “Brush your teeth”, but that’s it. So the Way To Slappiness can drop dead and pulp itself.
Valerie says
LRH didn’t exactly follow the brush your teeth one.
Old Surfer Dude says
His lower teeth were rotting out of his mouth. Previously, he had a stroke and a heart attack. A second stroke killed him.
So much for him leaving his body on his terms. He died just like everyone else dies.
azhlynne says
Pretty ironic then, that one of the tenets of The Way to Happiness would be about truth.
However, one must know what “Truth” is. Based upon The Way of Happiness’ convoluted explanation truth is “an inevitable (unavoidable) fact no matter how arrived at.” If YOU believe it then it is YOUR truth.
With this information, both groups are apparently telling the truth. IAS speaks from the data given them, therefore what they know is their truth. TWTH is also telling the truth based upon their data.
It’s all good. Everyone is telling their truth.
Jens TINGLEFF says
For me, the problem is that “the truth” for the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology is that anyone making accurate observations about it must be silenced. And that tax payers sponsor this hatred.
Michael Winters says
Total sham and scam. The IAS taught me one thing: To demand transparency and financials from such groups (any Scientology front group). For years and years and years I’ve seen the IAS promoting various campaigns, and I always thought, “but not in my city” … it wasn’t until the bold faced lie of “in your city” followed by never seeing it in my city that I began to suspect that it was BS.
And the Int events always showing some photo op of some kid in some African country or someplace I’d never be able to physically verify, well now I know such were simply photo ops. Probably traded bottles of water for the photos. But not in my city.
I had always found it strange, my city, that houses some of the largest software companies on earth. A city with major influence around the world. But Scientology is left as the butt of the joke to the locals. You’d think if it were not a scam, they’d target cities with people connected to industries that can affect millions and billions. Instead, they opt for photo ops in far away places. Yes, total sham and scam.
visitor says
For truth in advertising, Scientology should advertise itself as:
The Way to Bankruptcy
The Way to Divorce and a Disconnected Family
The Way to Misery
Idle Morgue says
That is awesome Visitor …so true too!
The Way to shattered lives – compliments of L Ron Hubbard – “Ron the Nut”
Old Surfer Dude says
The way to total and complete utter ruin.
Ms. B. Haven says
Actually, I think airing scientology promo material while people are waiting for movies to start is a brilliant idea. The IAS could shake down local scientologists to pay for the ad and they wouldn’t have to dip into their reserves to cover the cost. They would have a captive audience of movie goers who would be forced to sit through the WTH promo. If the captive audience chose not to watch, they would probably head for the snack counter (thereby increasing theater revenue) or take advantage of the time to use the facilities before the movie started. Those unfortunates who stayed to watch would have the opportunity to go home and google “the way to happiness” or “cchr” or “scientology”. At that point, it’s game over for the cult’s dissemination efforts. Their ‘outflow’ would certainly not translate to ‘inflow’, it would educate the unwashed masses as to the true nature of the scam of scientology.
By the way, scientology movie celebrities should be regged to fund these campaigns when ever there is a movie showing that they appear in. That way, the IAS could ‘double dip’ when it comes to their regging efforts. They would get money from the celeb and the local public scientologists. When a movie goer went home and googled “kirstie alley + scientology” they may come up with a gem like this:
https://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2016/12/20/kirstie-alleys-scientology-ot-charm-school-now-in-session/
Similar results could be had for Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Juliette Lewis, Jenna Elfman, etc.
Mike Wynski says
Again? I think it would be MUCH easier to just list all the times when the IAS wasn’t lying.
I will make that list now.
Done.
PeaceMaker says
I’m trying to figure out the “acceptable truth” type of justification that usually seems to underlie these numbers, so that they can rationalize to themselves that they’re not telling outright lies. Are they running enough television and print ads in different countries to count that many viewer impressions? Or are they now even counting the supposed “eyeballs” of internet ads?
Perhaps they’re figuring that now that they have their “SuMP” media studio, they can start claiming this sort of broad marketing – not that its anything new even for them, or a capability really tied to their underutilized new facility. But that concept is at least two decades out of date, since after the internet crash, everyone realized that there was nothing intrinsically valuable about impressions or eyeballs, and that what mattered was whether audiences were engaged enough (or even paying attention at all) that it produced actual marketing results and sales.
If they’re going to start counting eyeballs as well as inches of fiber optic cable, we’re in for a whole new era of outrageous statistics. But meanwhile their actual public reputation is plummeting, and the orgs are emptying out.
LDW says
“James Orsen “Jim” Bakker (pronounced “Baker”; born January 2, 1940) is an American televangelist, a former Assemblies of God minister and a former host (with his then-wife Tammy Faye Bakker) of The PTL Club, an evangelical Christian television program.
A sex scandal led to his resignation from the ministry. Subsequent revelations of accounting fraud brought about his imprisonment and divorce.” (from Wikipedia)
At some point, some hot-shot IRS agent or some crafty lawyer is going to zero in on a path to make his own fame and/or fortune by bringing Captain David Miscavige to justice. Hopefully it won’t be posthumously.
Old Surfer Dude says
I can go either way…
I Yawnalot says
Either way, it’s PARTY time!
alcoboyy says
I have a feeling that if you did apply and got accepted, you will probably start out cleaning toilets or scrubbing the floor rather than collecting those nice commissions they keep prattling about.
Old Surfer Dude says
Maybe licking the bathroom floor to get it clean.
alcoboyy says
Shhhhhhhhhhhh! Don’t give them any ideas!
TOOT to OT says
It is puzzling how the US government allows this to continue.
The IAS has grown out of control.
On the otherhand, I’m less and less bothered by adults being idiots and giving their money to a “charity” that isn’t actually doing what they say. There are plenty of ways to confirm who you are donating to.
Not long ago the fat paychecks of (non-profit) CEO’s was floating around the internet. It inspired half of the people I know (that read it) to change WHO they supported instantly.
No one likes to be tricked!
chuckbeatty77 says
The orders regarding how to put Way to Happiness into the public, was to get donations by groups that were sold on the Way to Happiness ideas spreading, and the donor groups would have their group name listed as sponsers on the back of each booklet.
It’s in the LRH advices for how to distribute the Way to Happiness booklets, and have the distribution constantly be this fundraising method, of getting donor sponsers to foot the printing bill.
The rules Hubbard created for distribution of Way to Happiness booklets, the rules, Hubbard’s rules, his orders, are the stumbling fundamental problem those in management are stuck with.
What I believe today, is that lawyers, who are thoughtful and outside world wise, who hear of Hubbard’s detailed limiting orders, scratch their heads, just like all normal smarter outsiders scratch their heads at Hubbard’s slavishly abided by rules that the Sea Org management staffers literally cripple the Scientology movement with following.
Hubbard’s rules, and Way to Happiness distribution advice/orders from Hubbard, were so constraining, and to be “on Source” and “standard” in following LRH’s advice, the movment managers over Way to Happiness foundation are limited to not outthinking this.
Again, the most two key loophole advices, that Miscavige, and all WDC and Exec Strata, AND ED Int ought to constantly be re-educated (crammed) on is the ED Int advice about the Hiring Staff requirements point where LRH almost jokingly comments to ED Int that ED Int doesn’t know that it’s his authority to deal with hiring arbitraries.
Hubbard did give, some final leeway to ED Int, and ED Int has never understood what this really means, and how the movement OUGHT to make public LRH’s order to ED int.
The movement is so immature, so incapable of outthinking and using LRH’s “arbitrary” rule that Hubbard gave the movement top managers, since top managers were to spot and undo “arbitraries”, and the Hiring “advice” from LRH to ED Int, is a prime perfect example of the authority that none of them dares.
To reform Scientology, and do Hubbard’s loophole solutions, like the ED Int Hiring advice, takes smarter top execs, who have the gumption to strip off the major arbitraries of the movement, and “disconnection” is the biggest most horrid arbitrary condemnatory Hubbard rule they are most blatantly misapplying, and which they could do some of their own Way to Happiness, if top Scientology did some wholesale reveral across the boards of all “disconnections” and “SP declares” and do a big amnesty, wholesale, no requirements out of those declared “SP”.
And do this without hoopla bullshit hype, but in simple humble fashion.
nomnom says
But there’s no ED Int…..
Old Surfer Dude says
Why? Did he dump Scientology and become a Moonie?
Lawrence says
It is such a lie. L. Ron Hubbard says in the Dianetics book in writing (going back 67 years in time) that an individual is as sane as he or she can tell differences between things. Very true here, because is it possible that the Way to Happiness was effectively communicated to 117 million people (117,000,000) and nobody noticed not even the news reports? This kind of fiction is an example of the unequalled propaganda the Church of Scientology “Board of Directors” approves as communication to the church’s “many thousands” of members on a regular basis. It is enough to keep people away that might look into what the church has to offer and cause any member of the church catching up on news on the internet to wake up and leave. 🙂
chuckbeatty77 says
Way to Happiness got swamped by and suffer guilt by association to Hubbard’s bad ideas/rules.
I always liked Brian Weinberg, he used to be one of the Way to Happiness Foundation leaders for long time, he and Rena’s whole history deserve a book.
Hennessy says
Brian Weinberg is a very nice person. He once showed up on my doorstep with two other guys dressed in white military shirts and regalia on a cold Sunday evening. He promised me that he wouldn’t leave without a check and he wanted tens of thousands of dollars written on that check too. This was not the way that Brian typically communicated. I told him that he’d better grab some pillows and a blankets because it was going to be a long, cold night for him and his buds. I knew that if the three of them came into my home, it would be impossible to get them to leave and I had kids going to school and work in the morning.
It ended up being a few hours of me standing at the front door saying no, until I finally gave him a check for $100. The other guy who stayed with Brian stalked off when he saw the amount on the check but Brian begged me to make it $400 “for a library” and then promised that he would leave. I gave him the check and they left. Brian had an executive position at TWTH, and was reduced to going door to door for libraries, Basics and what-not. He also seemed to be subservient to the guys who accompanied him, and I got the feeling that they didn’t trust him to go out by himself, like he was under watch or something. This was about nine years ago. I bet that he and Rena have quite a story to tell.
T.J. says
Where is Brian these days… where is Rena Weinberg?
pinklegs says
The IAS is really gross when you read this stuff.
Message for Lois Reisdorf or Clearly Pissed off, do either of you have any further info on Brian and Rena Weinberg? If you do, I would love to know anything about what happened to them.
Thanks.
Mike Rinder says
Rena was in the Hole in 2007 when I left. I suspect she is still at Gold.
pinklegs says
Thank you. Maybe someone will have fresh info. Hopefully.