They closed up shop well before Irma arrived.
The mighty Volunteer Ministers of the Church of Scientology swung into immediate video action in downtown Clearwater following Hurricane Irma.
One of our local Special Correspondents has been documenting their activities. Photos of the photo ops…
Venturing 100 yards down Ft Harrison to the nearest patch of foliage they could find, the yellow shirts and their videographer got stuck in to some serious disaster clean up. Remember, this is the largest single concentration of scientologists on this or any other planet in the universe, and this was apparently the best they could muster.
Seems that one of the RPFers they sent out didnt grab a yellow shirt…
Of course, the most important element of any VM activity is the videographer. Without video to use at the next event, there is no “VM activity.”
15 minutes later, video footage in the can, the VM’s vanished. 
No doubt they will be sending photos to the Clerk of the Court letting them know what wonderful work they did picking up branches in front of the unused entrance to the old Court House. After all, what’s the point of doing good works if no advantage is gained by it? LRH says good works must be “well-publicized” to have any value.
So, next they handed out these fliers to every house in a local neighborhood.
Dear OTC members,
I can’t believe the church actually charged victims money to eat breakfast and dinner at their shelter. OMG. When Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana, after it was over I went there to check on my rental houses. I got a free meal from the mobile boxed lunch thing that came through neighborhoods giving out lunches. I wasn’t going to take it since I didn’t live there, but the neighbor told me to go ahead and that they were great about helping. So I did. No one charged me a dime for it. C of $ wake up!
Because as we ALL know… no good deed goes unpublished.
My aunt, a long time Scientologist of 40+years, said that 5 MILLION dollars had been donated to the Irma cause. I want to know where that money went? And did they really donate that money?
Is the Scio wearing black instead of the yellow shirt in the RPF? RPF inmates have to wear black.
I think that the reason the Volunteer Ministers disappeared so quickly was they had accomplished everything they needed to accomplish in the physical world at that location so took their physical bodies home so they could go exterior and come back and finish up the job
Regarding the discussion of it being in the Bible about how it’s more blessed to give in anonymity, this is in the New Testament where Jesus is in the Temple with his disciples and they see a rich man come in and make a big show of giving lots of money to the church. While this is happening, Jesus points out a poor lady donating two small coins in secret and remarks how much more favor she garnered in God’s eyes–mainly because this is probably the only money she had.
I’m having trouble believing there could be such a thing as a Mormon Scientologist. It seems about as likely as a Nazi Buddhist.
In the case of someone that might somehow identify as a Mormon/Scientologist, I think it would interesting to take bets on what group would try harder to get them to renounce the other one – Mormons or Scientologists. And what carrots or sticks might be in play.
Also, the example of the two coins has just as much to do with generosity as humility, from the standpoint that the poor woman was giving a greater share of her wealth. I worked in fundraising for a faith-based charity and both points were often overlooked. Big donors frequently want recognition and unfortunately studies show that the poor are far more generous overall.
Wait a mo! I happen to be a Mormon and a Scientologist. I served as a staff member at CCNashville and no one ever questioned or criticized my beliefs. It was well known that I was LDS and we even had two LDS missionaries attend Sunday Service. Like I told Donna May below, I gained much from Scientology that has made me a better Mormon.
Okay…how do you manage to keep up payments on the Scientology courses which are not cheap, obey the law of tithing and avoid debt? DM once said that you cannot be a Scientologist and say a Mormon…you have to be one or the other. I know that me being disabled does not make me worthy to be a Scientologist, and I am so glad! My father in heaven knows my worth and so do I. If you can make it work then that is great. Let me know if you want to talk further. I can give you my email.
The courses and auditing I have received were free of charge as part of my staff membership. I am currently not on course and do not agree with the donation rates. I feel that I should let you know that not all Scientologists affiliate with the CofS. There is a movement called the Freezone or Independent Scientology made up of Scientologists who are disaffected by the CofS and they practice Scientology in their own way. The rates charged in this group are often far less than the CofS or sometimes non existent. This is the group I affiliate with and simply practice th rough books. So, no, I am not handing over gobs of cash to David Miscavige, whom I have met personally and of whom I am not a fan.
As for tithing, that’s between me and my bishop.
Oh Please
Thanks Mike and Leah and all those involved for exposing the fake news of scientology.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/weather/hurricanes/downtown-clearwater-businesses-get-extra-layer-of-storm-protection-from/2337124
I’d like to know what other church’s relief effort group they stole the ice from. Clearly, it was not trucked in special for their little give-away. Oh, I forgot the pictures of all the cult semi’s barreling down the highway toward disaster zone. Yah, right…*smirk*
What a joke.
I don’t care what the Scientologists are ever doing in Clearwater, I will never be back there. Going to Flag is one of the most memorable bad experiences I have on record of myself. 🙂
Did they furnish ice containers? Or ppl were stuck finding something to put ice in all the while they have their own water & electric? Silly…
And why ice of all things that people need? Food, clothing, ability to wash clothing, toiletries….those make sense. Just another example of how out of touch Scientology is.
Greetings all, new to this site but I wanted to share something regarding this post: I have a friend who lives in Clearwater, FL. The other day, after returning from GA after evacuating, her husband went out to walk the dog, only to find people on yellow shirts cleaning their front yard. She sent me and our friends a PM about this, and thought it was funny. I told her, if they give literature, ran away! Lo and behold, she said they did and invited them to some activity or the other.
About me: I am not a Scientologist or member of any cult, never has been (unless you consider having been raised Catholic as a cult). I have been reading this blog, Tony Ortega’s and others for months now and let me just say the things I’ve read and seen on TV, YouTube, etc. are unbelievable. My only connection to Scientology, if you can call it that, was that my mother, after divorcing my dad, read Dianetics in the 80s when it was at its peak and she didn’t understand it and that was it. Which was a good thing, otherwise I would had had to deal with a Scientologist mother. No, she went back to Catholicism.
If u can’t control your own mind unfortunately people such as scientologists will! Baffles me how weak minded these individuals are. This isn’t a religion and it’s a disgrace to be called one!
There are still as of today 14000 people still without power in Pinellas. Today I found some milk and bread at the store for the first time since last Thursday. And they had pretend ice, when they make enough money in a week to give every house in a Greenwood a generator.
They had a whole lot of cots at Ft. Harrison. I have no idea what the ratio of clams to non-clams was. They also had food – for sale. It was something like $10 for a breakfast buffet and $15 for the dinner buffet. It may have been really good hot food, I don’t know, but it’s just kind of strange that they charged money for it. At least the cots were free. I think.
They were all scientologists. It was a shelter for scientologists u believe.
They had to pay like $10 for breakfast? That’s outrageous…..was their ATM next to them?
Plus they probably had to make a sizeable donation to the IAS, for the “privilege” of that hot food.
You think it was strange that Scientology charged disaster victims $15.00 to eat at their buffet?
You must not know a lot about Scientology.
What? WTF – during the disaster I went through, the Red Cross came around and handed out food for free non-stop. Same with all the churches around here, oh please, $10 for breakfast? shove it.
Volunteer Minions for Dave The Reptilian.
Television is a spectator sport.
They filmed themselves replacing a sign at the Lucky Anchor. Am I the only one who believes there is now a hidden camera in a sign at the Lucky Anchor?
https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/19/clearwater-bar-owner-under-surveillance-has-a-surprise-for-scientology-hes-expanding/
Haha. That is exactly what I thought about the plywood nailed up on businesses. Hidden cameras/microphones. Love how these folks never do a good turn without patting themselves on the back in front of the world.
Good works have to be publicised to be of ANY value-That means if I feed a hungry person in need it’s of literally no value (to him or anyone else) unless I tell another member of the public that I did it, and then it’s of a tiny bit of value, ie, to me, because I appear to be a good person. Go LRH.
Polar opposite to Christian teachings. I was taught not to let good deeds be seen, because calling attention to it negated the deed and displeased God.
I’m not a bible thumper, but that just seems like good manners. I dont believe helping others is exclusive to one religion. Hindus and Buddhist teach giving as a social responsibility, expecting nothing in return. Judaism’ s Tzedekah, Islam’s 3rd Pillar teach charity.
Not photo bombing. Sheesh.
With apologies to Elizabeth Barrett Browning:
“How doth this cult disgust me? Let me count the ways”
More later. This is a work in progress.
Here’s one: The cult puts crosses on their buildings. To “position” themselves with Christianity. What a con job.
In the New Testament, Jesus, I think it was, but definitely SOMEBODY in there said that when you do good works you do them quietly, you don’t make a parade, a show, of what you’re doing for others.. I forget the exact quote but that is the concept: do nice things for people, help them, but don’t go out of your way to advertise that you’re doing so.
OMG, Gravity, my comment landed right under yours. I was so eager to post my comment that I haven’t read anyone’s posts yet and here you and I are saying the same thing about the cult and Christianity, crosses and all! I swear I’m just reading your comment now after posting what I did below!
Great minds….
Emphatically agree ! Advertising your good deeds makes it all about you and negates selflessness. The first time I heard McSavage speak, sounding like an auctioneer, I was disturbed by the lack of any spiritual expressions or values. Scientology is about as spiritual as a fast food meal is well balanced.
They also set up in the Greenwood apts area, which apparently didn’t have power.
http://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/1700-meals-donated-scientology-volunteer-ministers-florida
Even assuming that what some of WFLA shot was staged, it seems like they managed to do some of what people expect from church groups. I hope the staff enjoyed it, because it’ll be back to normal by Thursday.
By next thursday, no more special meals for the staff, I hope they all already enjoyed.
They collect more than 1 million dollars for this by far.
1700 hamburgers @ 3 or 4 bucks each.
6.800 max dollars expended and on reward free TV coverage, 1700 new people introduced to Scientology and 1700 TWTH on public hands.
Where are the 993.200 dollars left?
I supposed the donors ended paying 588 dollars for every hamburger.
Maybe that is know as the McSavage McCrappy meal deal.
Here’s another reason this was a ridiculous exercise. All that foliage was by the street because THATS WHERE ITS SUPPOSED TO GO SO THE CITY CAN PICK IT UP. It’d be like if I took my truck down my street on trash day and put everyone’s trash in my truck before the garbage truck came by and then I claimed to be cleaning up the community. Stupid!
As a kid in the 90’s, I participated in my Methodist Church’s efforts to help our local AIDS shelter/clinic. Our church did monthly food drives for them and my parents and I would pick up and drop off the donated food.
Our church took A LOT of heat for that around town, especially from more conservative Churches. Lots of people thought AIDS wasn’t a worthy cause because “they brought it upon themselves.” But our church didn’t bow to public pressure.
This is what pisses me off about Scientology and others around the world who do things for the good PR. I once read a quote that said something to the effect of True character is helping those you know cannot help you back, or that you expect nothing from in return.
We got negative attention for our volunteerism. It was not a PR stunt. It caused tension within our church but ultimately we stuck with it. That, to me, is what a real church does.
How fantastic, I applaud your church and all that participated in this kindness.
I read somewhere, that “True Charity is Anonymous”. If you have to advertise your good deeds, what does that say about you.
I love when certain people and groups decide that other individuals and groups don’t deserve a helping because they “brought it all on themselves”. I love it because one day, these very same people and groups need help, and when they do, when THEY are in dire need, all of a sudden they have their intense, “We Are The World” epiphanies, their Kumbaya moments when they feel so akin to the rest of humanity.
These “Christians”, some of them, are some of the least Christian people walking the earth. And now, after so many years of pointing fingers at other individuals and groups, pointing fingers at the immorality, lack of personal character, lack of personal discipline, lack of family values, lack of a work ethic, laziness, licentiousness of certain people and groups, at all these reasons why certain people and groups were undeserving of help from their fellow man – after all these years, well, guess what, now these the finger-pointers themselves are in trouble, big trouble – committing suicide, drug addicted, on welfare as a way of life, and criminal. And now the finger pointers want and need help. And they’ll get it. No one is going to point a finger in front of them and say,”No help for you. You brought this on yourself”. No one is going to offer their own “Just say no” advice to the new heroin addicts. No, they’re going to get what they need until they can lift themselves up. Because that’s the kind of country we live in, thank God. We help each other and we help other countries who depend upon us. And we’ll do this in spite of the “Christians” who set themselves up as the arbiters of who should and should not get help.
It’s difficult to speak broadly about Christianity because it is extremely diverse…even among the same denominations. Methodist churches tend to focus on social justice but not all of them.
I am one of the few people I know who had an amazing religious experience growing up as a kid. My church (referring to my specific church, not the Methodist church as a whole) pulled no punches when it came to inclusiveness. Our minister constantly said as Christians, we are never to judge but always to help. It was still a church run by people and all people are fallible, but I am very grateful I grew up in that environment.
My wife grew up Catholic and had a pretty typical experience…some things were cool but a lot was pretty boring. We all know about the sins committed by the Catholic Church throughout history (did anyone see The Keepers? That is one of the most evil things I’ve ever heard). But I’ve also known Catholic Priests who were amazing and brilliant. One of my favorite professors was a Catholic priest and I asked him “Do you believe in everything the Catholic Church believes in?” And he said “Hell no! If I did, I’d go insane!”
I don’t judge Scientologists for their beliefs but I don’t accept the argument that “Christianity has done bad things so why are you picking on us?” (Which I’ve heard a couple Scientologists say). That’s diverting the argument. We have plenty of time as a society to focus on all institutional abuses and demand they stop.
This is for everyone there’s so many followers I’m commiting to sending a letter a week to the FBI AND IRS asking them why they became such wimps and bow down to DM let’s overflow them like Scientology overflowed them with this shit!!!! I’m just wanting to stir them up more,
Scn is a pretend religion.
Back in 2016 when the financial scam that is $cientology produced a TV advert on their so-called Volunteer Ministers here’s what the UK’s Advertising Standards Authority had to say about their claims:
We considered that viewers were likely to interpret the claim “giving aid” which was accompanied by images of a Church volunteer who had a stethoscope around her neck and was cradling a baby, and two volunteers carrying someone on a stretcher, to mean the Church provided direct aid, in forms such as medical assistance, rescuing victims and providing food, water and shelter and we would therefore expect the Church to provide evidence of their volunteer ministers giving such direct aid at disaster sites.
We considered that the information supplied by the Church demonstrated that volunteer ministers had worked in disaster zones around the world in some capacity between the years 1989 to 2014. In particular, they had provided a list of disaster zones their volunteer ministers had visited and a spreadsheet showing the number of individuals who had been helped each year during that period. We understood from the Church that the type of aid provided by volunteer ministers at disaster sites was varied, and that there was an initial emphasis on providing medical assistance. However, we noted that the evidence we had been supplied with to demonstrate the aid given to people at disaster sites was anecdotal.
We also had concerns about how the data, in terms of number of individuals given aid, had been calculated. We noted that Volunteer Ministers in Charge were under an obligation to collect from their volunteers that information but we had not been provided with evidence to show how the volunteers tracked that information and how it was recorded. In particular, it was unclear as to how volunteers monitored the number of individuals they had given aid to when they were working under pressure in challenging and fast-paced situations. It was also unclear as to what counted as ‘giving aid’ when the numbers were being calculated and we noted that the sample report referred to the number of people ‘helped’. As noted above, we considered viewers were likely to interpret ‘giving aid’ to mean the Church provided direct aid, in forms such as medical assistance, rescuing victims and providing food, water and shelter. We noted that the sample report referred to actions such as clearing debris from roads and buildings which, although of considerable help to the local community, might not constitute ‘giving aid’. It was also unclear whether the Church had included the total number of people in a community in cases where general community work had been carried out, and, if that was the case, we had concerns about whether that was an accurate method of calculating the number of people given aid. Furthermore, we had concerns that there appeared to be no checks in place to ensure that individuals who were given aid were not counted more than once towards the overall figure.
Because we had not been provided with suitable evidence to show how the specific figure of 24 million had been calculated and that it was accurate, we concluded that the claim had not been substantiated and was likely to mislead viewers.
On that point, the ad breached BCAP Code rules 3.1 (Misleading advertising) and 3.9 (Substantiation).
Action
The ad must not appear again in its current form. We told the Church of Scientology International to ensure they held adequate evidence for any claims that viewers were likely to regard as objective and capable of substantiation.
https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/church-of-scientology-international-a15-309089.html
Thats the way to go
The church will never provide specifics because theres no any one!!!!!
They say they safe a city of 1.000.000 people with TWTH and the crime stop, the drug supply reduced by 50% and so on, just BS, remember when they claim on Venezuela, all the public workers will receive TWTH by presidential order, and now they are the most corrupt country in america, they do not understand every single precept?
Its time to encourage the IRS to ask for real data, you can not have a complex like flag that cost 300 millions to deliver also highly priced bridge steps to 1000 people a year, its insane thats more than a quarter million per scion.
Its a bussiness cult not a charity church
I feel for these young members, filmed by a CoS blockhead camera operator, just picking up debris and waiting for ice. They had to know they weren’t making an impact. I have family all over Florida…Tampa, south Florida, The Keys, central Florida and Jacksonville. My family told me the faiths they saw rising to the occasion were Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Mormon, Muslim and Jewish. They offered hot meals, gave out water, groceries, batteries, flashlights, etc. Many had counselors on hand (not to indoctrinate,) but to help residents come to grips with the destruction. Scientology is so boastful about disaster relief, but it’s mostly a sham.
Wait a minute! I’ll bet that the Scientologists were offering counseling to victims in their unique Scientology way:
They were probably selling VM booklets for five dollars each.
I’m still waiting to hear any specifics about my brother in law VM who went to Texas, now returned. The family really doesn’t know much at all about what he actually did or where he went. He didn’t say much except he “enjoyed it,” and helped people remove wet and damaged dry wall from their homes.
I kept asking a simple question, “how many VMs were in his party and what part of Texas were they deployed (ie how bad was the devastation where he was sent and who was co-ordinating the relief)?” No one knows and it’s still unconfirmed if the Cof$ paid for his flight or living expenses. It’s just odd that no information has been forthcoming as it’s a pretty serious situation my extended family, like all other Americans I guess, are concerned and would like to know too, especially from someone who actually went there. One thing that is becoming more and more apparent though is the open contempt for the Cof$ developing from those that were never in. It is becoming more and more openly discussed.
Makes me feel ill seeing the above ‘mock up’ for photo shoot purposes.
Scientology is the most dishonest organisation I’ve ever had anything to do with, they profit from human misery. They offer hope where is there is none, just lies to get money and the forth coming betrayal in wake of such dishonesty.
In one picture that was posted to social media, it was clearly identified that the VMs were working in the yard of a fellow scientologist. Another picture showing a VM taking wet debris out of a house that had a waterline less than a foot off the ground, was quite possibly of scientologist’s home, because planted by the front door there was a big flag with the VM version of the Scientology cross (made to less obviously look like the occult cross, that it actually comes from) on it – who would allow such a flag to be posted by their home except a scientologist, plus who would take flags into a disaster zone like a conquering army?
I suspect that VMs weren’t allowed into the hardest-hit areas because they were not with a properly organized and trained disaster relief group. All the outside photos show them in lightly damaged areas.
Their “help” was very cheap: it was all slave labor and the cherch did not even buy tools for them, like chain saws or maybe a chipper that could be rented or purchased in 10 minutes. There were just a few rakes shared by the VMs, This is what I saw driving around Clearwater after the hurricane.
ABC just reported that Rooms To Go donated $2 million in hurricane relief efforts. They are a private, for profit company and spent more money on the clean-up that the “The Largest Private Relief Force on Earth”
See report here:
http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local/rooms-to-go-commits-m-over-rooms-of-furniture-to/article_448ebeaa-9aea-11e7-bcee-97667af9a357.html
It’s time for the IRS to wake up to the fact that this is not a charitable organization. Quite the contrary. Rich people like Tom Cruise donate money to get a GIANT tax deductions. Dave Miscavige then keeps the money for himself to torture and spy on X members. There’s no charity here. Wake Up IRS!!!
In a german pressrelease they claim over 2400 came to help … they removed also a fallen tree
Being an ex – Scn, living in Clearwater the past 20 years here is my take on it. The Cof S / Flag, actually went out of their way and installed plywood on many store fronts in downtown Clearwater . Even though there was no plywood to be had anywhere in Pinellas county at that time. Mayor Cretekos ,who is not a fan, had to commend the CofS ,for this gesture. On Friday ,day 5 of no electricity for myself. No ice anywhere in Clearwater. What a relief to see the 3 yellow tents with ice. I grabbed a big bag and happily went home. Here is what I see ,the CofS has never done anything worthwhile in the past to help people localy. Why now ? I’ll tell you why. They are scared shitless, because of the Mike and Leah show. I’m sorry, I meant since Aftermath won the Emmy,they know they are going down,and the plywood and ice was their
” Hail Mary ” pass. In my opinion.
I agree, DM is running scared because if Aftermath. I also think they were trying to do damage control after their Hurricane Harvey flustercuck.
I’ve been keeping an eye on the VM photographs that have appeared in various places, and it appears to me that a lot of the pictures show teenagers, I’m guessing from Scientology schools – they and the RPF would be two groups that Scientology can put to use without reducing “production” stats and cash flow.
It also demonstrates Scientology’s cynical use of the “religion angle” and their derisive attitude towards mainstream religion, that they would casually put kids in t-shirts essentially labeling them “ministers” when it suits them.
Scientology – the very precise science of Smoke and Mirrors
It is nothing but a facade to get people’s money!
That’s the bottom line in a nutshell.
About 2 days after the storm hit here in Clearwater I saw 2 volunteer ministers in their yellow shirts outside my building (which still had no electricity). I asked them what they were here for and they said they got a call to check on one of the residents in my building, naming him specifically. Turns out my neighbor has a relative in another state who is a scientologist and was worried about him and called the Clearwater VMs to do a check to see if he was OK. The person in my building is not a scientologist and wants nothing to do with the cult. So when they knocked on his door asking him if he was ok, he saw the word scientology on their shirts and wouldn’t even let them inside. He told them emphatically he was fine and didn’t need or want anything from them. So within minutes they were driving away. That is how much their help is valued by many of the residents of Clearwater.
Priceless!
All the money that “church” has and all they could do was hand out free ice?! Oh ya, and let’s not forget about the debris pickup at the courthouse. Pathetic!!
I bet that along with that free ice, they were given information about what a wonderful “church” they are. Trying to recruit members when they are in a very vulnerable state no doubt. I hope and pray that the wonderful work you and Leah are doing will finally put an end to the evil that goes on behind those doors.
Thank you for fighting for those who are imprisoned with no way out.
Kristi
Slave Miscabbage, you are the douchiest douche who’s ever douched.
Good one! Mike … what’s the deal with the CW RPF? Are they usually kept out of sight somewhere?
I live in palm Harbor right next to Clearwater. Three blocks away from the sci main buildings are some very depressed areas. Lots of fallen trees and debris. I know for a fact that the VMs didn’t travel off of Ft. Harrison to help these poor people clean up anything. They cleaned up the courthouse grounds. Big deal! The City of Clearwater can take care of that. Why couldn’t they help the poor and elderly in their own neighborhood to clean up. These people had no tools and some are too frail to do it themselves. As I’ve said for the 35 years I’ve lived here, the scientologists have not impressed me and they certainly did nothing for their image in this disaster!! PS the hospital down the street could have used a hundred more volunteers than they had and gee, I didn’t see one SCN donating their time there either. What a farce that group is.
Hope this will be covered later in Leah aftermath show!
ROFLMAO thank you for the laugh. Cleared my lungs coughing! LOL
“THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS”. Our Miami neighborhood streets are lined with huge mounds of hurricane debris. If the destruction is small enough to fit into two large plastic bags, then the is NO catastrophe to respond to. My weekly yard service results in more than two bags of debris. Nothing more than a photo op, move along.
What a bunch of parasitic ghouls.
Ha! A picture says a thousand words…
How appropriate!
Giving out nothing but ICE while they “rake it in.”
The Ice Cold Heart of the cult in action.
Applause to your correspondents on the scene. Great job! Excellent post.
How about clueless, Mike.
The amount of self-congratulations going on in Scientology, almost makes the Democratic Party look objective by comparison.
This one is hilarious! I was waiting to see what they’d do with the hurricane right in their front yard and sure enough, completey tone deaf as usual! I have friends from Louisiana who drove to both Houston and Florida and brought more needed goods than that!
I really believe that these 2nd gen kids growing up in Scn are part of the problem. No real life experience, no education, no idea how the real world works. It’s always ready, fire, aim…..
“Ready, Fire, Aim…”. LOL! You nailed it!
Ready, fire, aim? You’ve been on the sauce again Dude? Why bother aiming?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, aka the Mormons, rolled out semi trucks full of food, water blankets and other essentials to Texas where I live, ( yes, I live in the Houston area and Harvey did a number on us) so that members here were taken care of.Mormon Helping Hands were out in force to help anyone in need of help no matter who they were. Members and non members were helped and are still being helped. Our bishop cancelled all services in our building and we have been at the stake center in Kingwood having just our worship or sacrament meeting. Our prophet, Pres. Thomas S. Monson and other church leaders were in constant phone communication with our local leaders here making sure all of the members were accounted for and that all needs were met.
The Houston Texas Temple was flooded leaving at least eight inches of mud in the baptistery that has to be cleaned out so the temple is closed for repairs.
So for the CoS to say that they came out in droves is a joke! Most churches do service because it is the right thing to do. It makes them feel good and blessings come to those who give and receive the service. If there is a photo op, it’s because the media is there as the trucks are either leaving SLC or arriving at their destination. Any organization that helps out their fellow man just for the photo ops is not doing it for the right reasons. Shame on the CoS for taking advantage of Irma to make themselves look good, While cleaning up the courthouse grounds was a good thing, I’m certain that there were other opportunities for your VMs to render service. Just none that would have made an op ed piece. If you are helping to makes yourselves look good, then you are making yourselves look foolish. And, you missed the point of rendering service.
And what is ” free ice” going to do if A) no ice is there to be given out and B) no one there to receive it and last of all C) that is all you have to offer? LRH was nothing more than a man with messed up values and no real concept of what it means to give of ones self in the service of their fellow man. The more I learn about this so called church, the more ill I become. I am so thankful that I have a firm testimony of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I am a Mormon, and as I stated before, I live in the Kingwood area where my home was not flooded out, but we lost power for a time. Everything is back on and I am thankful to our ward family for the prayers and constant contact making sure I was okay. I am home bound for the most part because I am disabled and in a wheelchair. I’m not saying this for pity, it is so to let people know that things are slowly becoming normal as possible.
Dear Sister May:
I am LDS as well as a Scientologist. I have participated in activities with Mormon Helping Hands as well as with the VMs and I must say that our church does a lot more that is good than does the Church Of Scientology. That is because we have the Restored Gospel which teaches us to love our neighbors as ourselves. You noted that President Monson was in contact with local priesthood leaders to make sure that victims got the help they needed.
Contrast this with Scientology where the idea is that helping the poor is what is called ‘out-exchange’, meaning that the giving is uneven because the poor don’t give anything in return. And, yes, often these VM activities are nothing more than photo-ops to get Scientologists to donate more money to the International Association Of Scientologists, or the IAS.
As a Mormon, I must bear my testimony that I have found much in Scientology that has helped me to be a better Mormon. On the other hand, I have found much in it that I disagree with, especially in many of its practices.
Having served as a staff member in a Scientology church, I feel that I can bear witness to these things. If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask.
Oh dear, I think after you Google for info on the cult of Scientology, you need to Google for info on the cult of the LDS. Seriously.
I invite you to visit http://www.mormon.org and learn more about the church and its beliefs before you just us so.
And I suggest you look up information on Joseph Smith. He and LRH had many things in common…conman, charlatan, sex pervert, and roots in the demonic. Do a little research. Get out of your bubble.
Quit being such a bigot.
To Alcoboy: I am glad to make your acquaintance but I have to ask how do you hold a current temple recommend being LDS and a Scientologist?
I believe you’re referring to the temple recommend interview question about being involved with other groups whose teachings are not in accord with the teachings of the church.
This is often a most misunderstood question. It does not forbid you to be, for example, a Freemason or a member of a college fraternity. Interpreting this question like many members of the church do would mean we couldn’t attend a college and hold a temple recommend as many colleges teach things which go against church teachings.
This temple recommend question wants to know if you are engaging in anti-Mormon activity or hold anti-Mormon views.
There are groups that Mormons cannot belong to on pain of excommunication. Some of these are the Mafia, the
Communist Party and I believe, the Sierra Club. Members of my ward know that I am a Scientologist and I have never been counseled to remove myself from it.
Thanks for the report on Housten. The concept of charity and the Good Samaritan are foreign to scientologists. It’s all done to forward the cause.
I know LDS has taken a number of knocks about doctrine over the years, but when it comes to disaster relief and helping those in need, LDS is there…always.
Glad you’re life is getting back to more normal and that you’re safe and sound. It’s also good to hear that your church is supporting and helping you and many others. The LDS church has always been excellent at serving the community!
Besides, it’s good for those who may lurk here that may still be in the CO$ to read stories of what other churches do to TRULY care for their members and serve the community!
We’re supposed to help eachother, especially the disabled, elderly, poor, single parents, at-risk youth, etc… and that’s completely contrary to what CO$ does, not even their own members who find themselves in any of those categories after decades of service – and that’s horrible & wrong! What you’ve experienced through your own church is an example they all need to see!
Well Said Donna. Your thinking is in the Right place. Bless You
If Clearwater were populated by Mormons instead of Scios it would be an immense improvement. Come to think of it, just about any denomination would be significant progress.
This is an example of how Scientology works.
Nice work capturing the truth about ‘help’ as defined by our favorite cult.
Yo Dave,
It is not help if it cannot help You promote Your lies. Be sure to show the footage in Saint Shill at Your IAS Event ……………. good buddy!
This makes me want to vomit. My relatives in Orlando still do not have electricity…..it’s been a week. It wouldn’t be very difficult to postulate where help is needed….however…we cannot stray to far away from the Mothership…might be exposed to real people….to much entheta….think of how many people coulda been sheltered at FLAG…..
According to their Facebook page….they open the Ft Harrison ballroom…(I think) as a “shelter”. AFTER effing Irma hit….geez….Thanks!!!!
Cleaning up Clearwater….bullshit. Maybe their own buildings or vacant ones.
I thought the 2 BIG BEINGS had power over MEST…didn’t seem to work with Irma…whatever….one makes shitty movies….breaks his foot…and the other is the leader of a CULT that’s circling the drain.. cut the crap….we ALL know you are full of shit.
Sorry for the rant. Had a tough week.
Thank You for all You do Mike and Leah….And to all who are speaking out!!!!!
Keep Going!!!!
Electricity’s still out elsewhere?
But…. But…. Aren’t they just applying the Condition of “Power Change?”
It won’t work because they’re still in the condition of Enemy.
It’s all one big farce, from David at the top to photo-op volunteers. It’s time to take this to the next level to trigger government action to rescind Scientology’s IRS status. You have a huge audience with A&E that can be marshalled to put grassroots pressure on members of Congress — even our inept Congress — to act.
Happy to help any way I can.
Well said Dokester: I 2nd your motion to take it to the next level. The real world has seen enough disgusting atrocities of this self serving Cult. The Gov’t agencies need to be bombarded til they take appropriate Action! Including Solid Law suits that can draw some serious attention to this tragic display of Tax exemption abuse, & abuse of human rights!
Despicable. This is what happens when you volunteer to help only because you want something in return. In essence, you are a taker.
So typical. So sick.
Dave,
Life is rough as a slumlord, wanna Scotch on the rocks?
Are you serious!!!! My son and his wife worked all day cutting down broken branches and tree’s that fell all around there house,psshh I don’t blame the kids they’re so brainwashed just putting on yellow shirts doing what their told, I feel sad for a child to grow up like that ,
My youngest is so smart beautiful happy ,if she ever heads towards Clearwater I tell her to avoid Scientologist like the plague!
Clearwater should come with a warning sign! It’s actually sad I Love it there!
Good for your kids! And YES, Clearwater needs to come with a WARNING: Your life will dissolve into a megamillionaires’ sociopathical delusions. Take and expect nothing in return.
I wonder how many of those 15 yellow shirts in the photo are actually EPFers or RPFers. There is no “volunteer” about it if you’re in the SO’s EPF or RPF.
I shouldn’t be shocked or surprised at anything this group does anymore but yet again the perfidy just takes my breath away. They show up just long enough to get video footage then pack back up and leave. It would be interesting to see the truth of their “help” in other areas as well. Even better, maybe the local News could mention the fact that Scientology is using the suffering and hardship of others as a photo opportunity to further their own agendas. As usual this is disgusting. Again and again, thank you Mike and Leah for shining a spotlight on the truth.
Nah, not yellow shirts and tents. Look more like goldenrod to me.
I’m melting! I’m melting!
What Fun to be a VM & be on video shot by the cult & show up in areas with water & power to give free ice & pick up a few branches in front of the courthouse. Big Whoop VMs. It seems y’all are low on bodies and Intention. Get Up To Present Time and Make It Go Right. The VM without that yellow Tee KR coming right up. Sad & Pathetic! ?Mike.
Dave will send Blackshirt to the RPS’s RPF and Videographer will be ordered to redo the footage.