Here is some more wisdom from “Ron”.
He wrote a whole treatise about being “PTS to the Middle Class”. These “middle-class values” are “MEST oriented” and cause people to NOT want to give money to scientology but rather to buy a house or a car or go to college. These are not worthwhile pursuits of course because they detract from one’s dedication to scientology.
That middle class is defined by him in draconian terms: they love a “cop America” and to “keep the down-and-outer out and down.” They are all around evil (though scientology relies on them in large part for its survival). It makes you wonder what “Class” Hubbard thinks IS acceptable?
Lower class? No, he called these people “welfare state recipients” and “downstats” that were a drag on society. And they have no money to give to scientology so they are effectively worthless.
Upper class? Definitely not. These in Hubbard terms are the “arrogant rich” who abuse and suppress the poor. But scientology IS happy to take their money by the fistful.
No class seems to be immune from Hubbard’s derisive view — there is a “class” that can be made the scapegoat for everything. But he had no problem taking their money…
I think the only “class” Hubbard seemed to approve of is the “fawning follower class” — those who look to HIM for the answers.
Aquamarine says
When I was in, for a number of years there was a reg at my org who was fond of saying, “Money is trash to a thetan.” Of course, paraphrased, LRH says this, somewhere, and this Reg was fond of quoting that particular LRH datum. It worked on me for a while, shaming me into doing, giving SOMEthing. One day he pulled that line during a reg cycle and this time I didn’t argue and without thinking responded, “Yes, money is trash – except when the org wants it.” Silence 🙂 I never heard that line from him again 🙂
Annie Oakley says
I hated this phrase. I remember my mother using it. It made you feel guilty for wanting anything normal and nice. A car that didn’t break down, a house of your own, nicer clothes. It was frowned upon to spend money on anything other than the bridge. Then I remember hearing someone quote another phrase to justify having nice things: “People judge us by our MEST.” I don’t even know where it came from, but it was the excuse for having nicer stuff as a PR thing. Of course most of the time we couldn’t afford nice things anyway…
Roger Larsson says
The ashes of Hubbard spread into the sea make the clams fat. If Hubbards ash had been spread into the rain forest he had contributed to something good. The trees in rain forests hunger for the minerals the ashes of scientologists owe.
chuckbeattyx75to03 says
Hubbard’s ideas and prejudices regarding class ought be listed out in sequence.
Most appalling and distasteful to me, was Hubbard’s ASI despatch traffic, since he pushed ASI staff to be posh and “look like a million bucks” in dress and attitude, and make loads of money by exchanging LRH’s “properties” to the world, and get loads of money, the quota per Hubbard’s ASI orders, are that each ASI staff member is to make 1 million dollars a year, for ASI, selling LRH’s properties or through their ASI staff duties bring in that amount total, per staffer.
Look a million bucks, and make or bring into ASI a million bucks, the yearly ASI staff member LRH quota.
To me, since ASI at the end of Hubbard’s life was the really the final incarnation of the old “LRH Personal Office” unit, in effect, with LRH Accounts switched into ASI, with all the other caretaking of LRH’s business stuff, all shuffled into ASI, the writings for ASI while not public, ought to be, they’d be such a contrast and show Hubbard’s money orientation and goals, at the end of his life most and kind of be the final word, on his money goals.
Chuck Beatty
I proofread all the ASI Hubbard despatches in a project in 1994ish. When I was ASI Staff, which was from 1992 til 1995.
ASI and LRH’s traffic just showed his own “off purposeness” being so money and wealth oriented. Not very good of a “religion” founder who ought more been oriented toward the spiritual stuff (which per the Lawrence Wright must read “Going Clear….” final pages, Hubbard admitted to Creston Ranch staffer Sarge Steven Pfauth, that Hubbard had failed, and was still having problems getting rid of some BTs, “body-thetans”.
Formost says
You’re’ not done with BT/Cls at the end of of OT VII, merely done with “Look & find”.
Shereefe says
If Hubbard and Miscavige are sociopaths and narcisstic, makes you wonder how many more Scientologists suffer with the same mental conditions. Taking people’s money when the people are already destitute wouldn’t bother them at all. How people, that joined later in life, could not see this is mind blowing. One’s born into it, is another story. Social classes doesn’t seem to matter. Just get the money!!! The bigger question is where the money is going. Miscavige can’t take it with him. Scientology is fading away. Where will it go?
HELOSA says
To hell where it came from
pluvo says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc_e9M8M-RU – PHILIP ZIMBARDO: The Lucifer Effect Understanding How Good People Turn Evil
There are also shorter versions of it where Philip Zimbardo talks about the subject.
Wynski says
Shereefe, the $ stay with the corporations and those are run by whoever he appoints as corporate officers. Same as every other corporation. Just because it is currently a “religion” doesn’t change that…
PeaceMaker says
And yet Scientology itself is very much a phenomenon of the middle class or bourgeoisie – a “first world” thing, in current parlance. I suspect that early on he was jealous of psychoanalysts making good money off of “worried well” clients, prosperous people with minor troubles and dissatisfactions, and thought he ought to be able to do the same.
Hubbard himself seemed to aspire desperately to be bourgeoisie or a notch above, with his bogus “Doctor” title, his stolen valor medals and elevated rank in his personal fake navy, his affectations at Saint Hill, and so on – even being a serious amateur photographer, was a popular middle-class pretension of the era. But it wouldn’t be the first or last time he accused others, of what he himself was doing.
Ultimately he seemed to want to find ways to get his followers to reject any connection or loyalty, except to him and his ideology.
Aquamarine says
Superb comment, Peacemaker. I really your posts!
Aquamarine says
(Groan) “Really LIKE your posts.”
ISNOINews says
O/T. Foundational Black Americans Conference confirms as a speaker Scientology Youth for Human Rights Award Winner Nation of Islam Brother Rizza Islam, who says:
— the Anti-Defamation League and the “so-called Jews” are liars, the number one anti-Semites, and the number one group of terrorists; and
— about the “so-called Jews,” “Adolf Hitler did know the truth. Adolf Hitler definitely did know the truth.”
Two tweet thread (so far).
https://twitter.com/ISNOINews/status/1196508149420875783
https://twitter.com/ISNOINews/status/1196762024849682434
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otherles says
Antisemitism is the political equivalent of a canary in the coal mine. I can’t this often enough.
ValR says
I was in scientology but have been out so long that even reading this post makes me scratch my head. I know the definition of PTS and I know what middle class is. I also remember the whole “PTS to Middle Class” while I was in. However, any person who is allowed to really think this through can’t help but go WTF?
Once again, a slap in the face, reminding me that one ting Hubbard wrote contradicted the next thing out of his mouth.
If you are still in flying under the radar and reading this, please consider this how can you thrive on all dynamics as you are supposed to in scientology yet be PTS to the Middle Class without messing with your third, fourth and sixth dynamics?
Imaberrated says
My parents used this to explain why we were poor Scientologists. It was dirty to be middle-class.
Formost says
I was PTS to the “Thursday 2:00 PM” Class.
I handled by permanent disconnection.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
” Trusting Fool Class”. I like that; Mike. I had no money to give them so I paid in sweat and literally gallons of blood. I do not regret my involvement in the Sea Org, as in an O/W write-up I put that I was previously proud to be an officer in the waffen SS. I was never quite able enough to tell them that I wanted to leave the SO. I was always looking fo another way out; a way in which I would not have to violate my billion year contract, but I would still be alive. I found that way by getting HIV from a blood transfusion, the first one I ever had. I can honestly say that I do not regret anything I did in the SO. Well, I do feel bad about one thing, and you all should know that when I was running the lifeboats on 20-25 occasions I transported Here Dwarfenfuehrer David Miscaviage from the ship to shore.
I should have drove that fucking lifeboat right under a moving ship and killed that fucking cockaroach along with his staff. I had nothing against any of them then, but I should have.
Royal Jandreau says
Good thing you didn’t run them under a ship as that would have killed you as well. As dead men tell no tales, you wouldn’t have been able to tell this one. You did the right thing by not doing it I believe. Your buddy Royal
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Thank you Royal, I appreciate that.
RoseMarie says
He’s so self aggrandizing he would never admit any “class” of people is worthy. Only he is worthy. If he deems you as worthy rest assured it is a short lived status. Evidence? History of all the Class twelves and the senior execs. 😏
Peggy L says
You make such a good point RoseMarie. If someone didn’t adore LRH and give them their life and all the money they could give him, every last cent they could get by hook or by crook, then they were a big 0 as far as he was concerned. My gosh what an egomaniac he was.
Cindy Temps says
I don’t know, but living in a Bluebird little trailer seems pretty middle class to me. Pot calling kettle black.
Ms. B. Haven says
At that point in his life, Hubbard was firmly ensconced in the criminal class. He was on the lam hiding from the IRS and had been convicted of crimes in France in absentia. He also avoided some serious legal trouble with Operation Snow White by throwing his wife under the bus. What a man. The vast majority of middle class American men have far more integrity than the ol’ grifter hiding in the Bluebird in Creston. Seems like Miscavige is following closely in his footsteps but hasn’t resorted to RV life yet.
George M. White says
Great Summary
Wynski says
Cindy he was living in that RV on a HUGE estate while his mansion was finished being built a few feet away.
Here is a pic of his “middle class” digs https://www.villagevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/crestonranch1.jpg
You can see the mansion surrounded by trees in the middle of the pic to the left of the two circles…
Ammo Alamo says
Hubbs was an equal opportunity opportunist. He would take money from those who had it, take money from those who didn’t have it but could raise credit to get it, and take money in the form of labor from those with neither money nor credit. There was no end to his machinations for personal wealth, even long after he had more money than he could possibly spend in his own lifetime (and he was not providing for his descendants, that’s for sure).
Miscavige had only one teacher from eighth grade until he took over, and it was Hubbard. Later he hired some smart lawyers, and between them they decided on the Donation for Status scam when it was obvious the money from the Bridge scam was affected by the loss of membership.
Miscavige is another misanthropist who is not providing for a family or a future for anyone other than himself. Just think of any regular corporation with three billion in assets – there are plenty of people who are working for less than their worth, but there are a few near the top who are making very good incomes. Plenty in Scientology are working for less than their worth, but there are no higher-ups raking in a good income, benefits, and retirement package.
It’s Hubbard’s legacy at work.
George M. White says
I ignored Hubbard’s analysis of society because he was always wrong. The Middle Class peaked around 1968 when it was most prosperous. One would be hard pressed these days to find anything like the affluence they enjoyed back then. The Middle Class is eroded. As usual Hubbard missed the major trends. Hubbard claimed that the Viet Nam War would lead to the end of America and that nuclear war would happen in a few years. Hubbard missed the great shift in attitudes after the Viet Nam War when business schools started turning out dedicated capitalists. Thank God for the internet which Hubbard also missed. The secrets of Scientology would have been maintained without it.
WhatWall says
I remember PTS-to-the-Middle-Class being pushed very hard to get money from us for Bridge and donos to IAS. Keeping to a budget and living within your means was very much frowned upon, even though Scientology’s own finance policy won’t allow its organizations to go into debt.
Hubbard made sure that the money flowed in one direction — TO HIM!
SILVIA says
I concur, LRH, Miscavige and any other sociopath narcissist loves the class that gives them money. They love the people that flatters them and admires them immensely. The class of people that approves everything they do.
In turn LRH, Miscavige feel powerful, they have lots of money and manipulate the class of people that behaves as described above.
In a nutshell rich slaves are their favorite class of people.
Wynski says
Ultimately it was the well intentioned but Trusting Fool Class that Hubtard relied upon…
Old Surfer Dude says
…that’s because Hubbard was never satisfied. At all.
Aquamarine says
LOL!
Here’s what I observed when I was in the cult with regard to “class”.
Rich, Uber-Rich, Middle Class, Working Class, Welfare – whatever your socioeconomic group, if you were giving CO$ money, you were fine. The greatest! Terrific!
If, and/or when you were NOT giving Co$ any money, you SUCKED.