I tweeted about this on Saturday, addressed to the Commander of the N. Hollywood Division of the LAPD for sucking up to scientology.
He is not the first. The convicted criminal former LA County Sheriff Lee Baca was a big scientology supporter — appearing at numerous scientology events and even riding on the scientology float in the Hollywood Christmas parade.
Cory Palka and others from Hollywood PD have been buddies with Celebrity Centre over the years, the Hollywood PD even had a kiosk installed in their Police Station to promote scientology front groups.
What these law enforcement officials don’t seem to understand is how scientology actually views them.
Here is just ONE article from Hubbard. It is the final chapter of the Hubbard Introduction to Scientology Ethics book which is a staple that ALL scientologists are expected to own and understand. It is NOT some obscure writing — there are plenty of those too.
But these officials could walk into the bookstore of any scientology organization they agree to visit and find this book and read this chapter.
I have highlighted some of the key passages in it.
In the same book are the “High Crimes” of scientology. Those things that can get you declared a “Suppressive Person”.
Scientology claims there is no preclusion on reporting to law enforcement. That is a simple lie. Reporting scientology or scientology to authorities IS an “effort to suppress” scientologists from “practicing or receiving standards scientology.”
Would any law enforcement official who read this drivel want to support the organization that espoused this philosophy? Are they acting deliberately blind because of the generous donations to their causes scientology provides? Or are they in fact what Hubbard says they are?
I prefer the idea they are ignorant. This is an effort to help provide them with some helpful knowledge.
Mrs. B. says
Unrelated, but I wanted someone to see it. Why is Maria Bartiromo from Fox Business interviewing Joy Villa as some kind of Hollywood insider? Please feel free to ask this question in their comments! Thanks.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/joy-villa-blacklist-jussie-smollett-entertainment-industry
Aquamarine says
Mrs. B.
Just guessing, but possibly long term Fox Noise anchor and commentator Greta Van Susteren pulled some strings. She and her lawyer husband are not only long standing Scientologists but major cult whales. This cult affiliation is kept on the downlow so as not to jeopardize her job at Fox and not compromise old Greta or more likely embarrass her and make her a laughing stock by having her cult connection be generally known.
tesseract says
Apparently in Austria, where I live, it is illegal for police officers to earn side money with security jobs etc the way the Clearwater police and other departments do. And such things are not allowed here for very good reasons. Way to go, ‘Merica…
Chee Chalker says
I think its only an issue with organizations that abuse the public trust.
Many schools in Chicago employ off duty police officers. I’d rather have someone with real world security experience instead of the goons (non police) ‘security’ staff (Sea Org) used by Scientology
Wynski says
tesseract, the USA was built on the philosophy of human rights. NOT gov’t power. It is a violation of human rights to prohibit people from doing with their free time what they will. Including making more money. Way to go Austria for trampling on human rights. AGAIN 😉
nomnom says
Great post!
If money wasn’t involved, the police couldn’t care less about Scientology.
Brian says
God! I haven’t read that in decades. I am amazed that I let this stuff into my mind.
Reading this stuff now is mind blowing. He was so insane, this man. Any authority, ANY AUTHORITY, was perceived as goblins and demons.
Hubbard demonized any other human being that has influence of power.
That dangerous insecure stuck brain loop of Hubbard’s also translated into his disdain of morality.
Hubbard warred against self control. Our guru was a Malignant Narcissist. I think about that from time to time and ponder that fact that my mind was influence by this sicko for 11 years.
He completely destroyed our ability to have a normal relationship with society.
THE STUDY OF SCIENTOLOGY AND AGREEING TO ITS PRECEPTS, CAUSES A DISASSOCIATION FROM LIFE ITSELF.
Hubbard is soooo condescending to anyone with influence. Anyone who had a view about life, medical, dental, priest, scientists, yogis, FBI, CIA, MI5, Marcabs, Xenu, pryches,
This man was a bad influence. He 3rd partied life itself.
Richard says
“He completely destroyed our ability to have a normal relationship with society.”
This is a generality and an all inclusive statement. I never came close to that type of mindset.
Richard says
With all of the at least borderline criminality in the organization in the past and present it’s difficult to not categorize “all Scientologists” past and present but I still think it needs to be qualified.
I developed a sense of superiority to the extent that I believed I was on a “better path” than other people. That’s not uncommon in religion, practices and cults.
Rip Van Winkle says
I find the statement to be completely true and the easily predicted result from anyone truly becoming a scio.
But then, I’ve M9ed KSW a great many times.
There are thousands upon thousands of instances in books, issues, and lectures wherein hubbard denigrated and dismissed any other religion, philosophy, answers, professions, whole fields of study, and indeed, “the entire ‘MEST UNIVERSE'”.
All of scn is about Hubbard being right, having the only answers, and becoming SUPERIOR (home novis/clear/OT) to everyone else in the world.
Scios hold themselves apart and above everyone else “on the planet”, and they base their world view on bonkers lies.
I don’t consider this to be in keeping with a “normal relationship with society”.
I am having to strip away the bullshit before I can even contemplate a glimmer of being at square one, ready to figure out Normal.
….
Aside: the charge of “using a generality” is triggering. When a scio levels this charge, he is warning the person that they are either an SP or are employing SP communication techniques.
While I am not going to throw away a rational desire for specifics, just even reading your use of the slur (because make no mistake, it’s a dangerous slur and charge in scn) .. I find myself becoming anxious and defensive for having an agreement with the targeted sentence. Also PISSED OFF to have to defend myself against an SP charge – and an urge to just effing LEVEL the asshat who dares – he’s got no idea who he’s dealing with. (I could have goldenrod on you in ten minutes. Sometimes I typed the fuckers up myself)
A non-enturb ought to slow yer roll.
…….
signed:
Still Healing
(Long Way To Go)
Brian says
Thank you Rip for sharing that. Just the fact you are aware of this stuff and consciously dealing with it is a big deal. A friend of mine who was in for decades and now out has not looked as deep as you have. In fact he doesn’t think he has any left over unconscious traits.
His wife disagrees.
Rip Van Winkle says
“His wife disagrees.”
laden with backstory. 🙂
……..
Yep, I was in for almost 40 years, UTR for a couple.
hubbard stole the world from me. He took my angsty adolescent mind – co-opted it – hijacked my young mind and heart with bullshit he knew to be false.. and stole not just decades of my time, but the entire world.
He stole my existence.
He told me this was a hell, a prison planet that doesn’t even really exist. It’s just a parody and dramatization of a thousand times of this trite false reality.
This was a MEST universe and MEST was false and bad and a trap. Nothing mattered but KSW and the goal, everything else was false and a distraction.
…
hubbard stole sunrises and tulips from me.
I have no time for apologists. I’m still in the ice-water-shock-devastation-“what-NOW?” phase.
I doubt I could err on over-estimating how deep the mind conditioning is, or how long the road ahead is.
The goodness of people and the world is shocking.
I’m glad you’re here to help, Brian.
I have tulips. 🙂
Richard says
Rip – That’s insightful and humorous. I forgot about Hubbard trashing the Entire Mest Universe! You can’t go much bigger than that.
Brian says
Richard, I would change the word “completely”. That word, in my opinion, applies to when we where in.
So you never:
1) mistrusted psychiatry?
2) never mistrusted the IRS?
3) mistrusted the AMA?
4) never mistrusted other practices?
5) never disconnected from an SP that later you realized was wrong?
6) never did OT3, R6 and saw all of civilization as a dramatization of implants?
7) never saw the Catholic Church and priests as dramatization of R6?
8) never considered Hubbard the wisest man in history and others where low rent philosophers?
9) never got auditing for health instead of going to a doctor?
Maybe you were not affected by these. But in my view, you were not a true believing Scientologist.
My hats off to you for staying independent. As an x Scientologist I would have seen you as in violation of KSW, open minded and reasonable.
I would have been the idiot in that case. Well done for not being a Scientologist when you were one.
All the people I knew were cordoned off from society and judged it as a dwindling spiral.
My hats off to you.
Richard says
Thank you
Scott Campbell says
I’d be interested to hear what kind of feedback you get from any law enforcement officials.
PeaceMaker says
This also shows how fascist or totalitarian Hubbard was – he derided justice systems and other mechanics of democracy. Like the Marxist-Leninists who he loved to make the targets of his two minutes hates (ref. Orwell’s 1984), he apparently thought that an ideology-based police and court system under some type of supposedly benevolent dictatorship would somehow be better, and more perfect.
Mike, this is another great piece incisively exposing Hubbard and Scientology, and illuminating their tactics. I hope that at some point your or someone else will set up some sort of landing page to give journalists and others easy access to information to help them understand how the CofS actually works.
Shereefe says
Thank you Mike for notifying the PD of Scientology front groups. By you letting them know by Twitter, letter, etc, they ( the police) can no longer deny they weren’t aware of the ties to Scientology . Now they will have to decide what groups to associate with. PD will also know someone’s watching who they are associating with. It will make them think twice. That’s all you can do but it has started a trail.
It’s like the Disney movies at Scientology events. People on the blog were writing things like “what would Disney do if they knew this?” I say let Disney know. Small paper trails win huge cases sometimes. It proves when people knew things or were notified of things. They can no longer deny.
Thank you all for putting up with me. I’m very defensive of law enforcement for my own personal reasons. Some in law enforcement are the nicest, honest and truthful people I know ( yes, I’m aware we also have bad “apples” but most honest ones work to get rid of the bad ones) We don’t like them either. By the way I would work the Overtime , I would take the money ( I worked for it) and I would still be the first to arrest your ass if you break the law lol
Kat LaRue says
I have a huge issue with elected public officials and law enforcement officers following any agenda other than ‘protect and serve’. They have job descriptions which (I’m pretty sure) do not include the lines ‘only protect and serve people who are in agreement with the people who are giving us donations’. I get that LEOs cannot just go out and arrest someone based on a blog, or on hearsay, but they can damn sure investigate it. I have sent dozens of letters to both the LAPD and the DAs office in LA requesting that they look into some of the allegations that are ongoing, and especially the Danny Masterson case. I have never received a response. (I’m sure that these letters have been ‘lost’ or misplaced’)
The funny thing is that his cult appears on the brink of finally imploding, and the agencies that have been turning a blind eye to their activities, as well as the agencies who have publicly aligned themselves with the cult, are going to have to answer to the allegations when it happens. Common sense alone would say that they should be distancing themselves due to the appearance of impropriety, and yet they still participate in scientology events. The media will eviscerate them when the final ashes of the cult settle. or at least we can hope.
Kat
J. Swift says
Mike, this is incontrovertible evidence of Scientology’s fraudulent operating basis: Say one thing, do another. Claim to support law enforcement while covering up rapes by the likes of alleged serial rapist and Scientologist Danny Masterson.
Scientology forbids rape victims in its ranks from calling the police to file criminal charges against their rapists. This is done while glibly “safepointing” agencies such as the LAPD by throwing chump change at Scientology suck ups like Captain Corey Palka.
I Yawnalot says
Dissent a hundred years ago was a hanging offense.
Scientology policy is dissent, Hubbard not only says so but wrote it into the texts of his technology for others to follow. We have enough trouble with corruption in high places, but when a criminal cult infiltrates and buys their way into such things as the police… oh my, but that is what Scientology is and what it does. When evidence such Mike’s article above is ignored it’s a sad day for social intelligence.
Old Surfer Dude says
I was socially intelligent once. But, just once.
I Yawnalot says
Ask for your money back.
Gravitysucks says
??
Independent Scientology News says
O/T. My new video: Scientology Freedom Medal Winner Nation of Islam Minister Tony Muhammad: (1) refers to Caucasian people as “dumb crackers”; (2) says, “The original Black man ran Caucasians out of Saudi Arabia and Mecca for telling lies”; (3) says that while in the caves of Europe, Caucasian people lost intelligence, didn’t know how to bury their own dead, developed the practices of orgies, incest, and bestiality, and “the only thing that would befriend them was a dog”; and (4) says, “Caucasian people, when their children go play, when they come back home they check their heads for ticks and lice, because the only thing that would befriend them was a dog.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw4E1hI09hY
NOTE: I am not an Independent Scientologist and I am not associated with Independent Scientology. I didn’t even think of Independent Scientology when I chose this name for my Twitter ID and later here, YouTube, etc.
PTS-SP says
Wow. Unbelievable.
How does this outrageous racist commentary of Tony M. not get more widely publicized???
He is the real troglodyte, but so blinded by his self-infatuation and pride he doesn’t even know.
You hear that David Miscavige? Tony says you’re a dumb cracker with fleas, a troglodyte who comes from caves, has orgies and plays with dogs. DM you are a fool.
Aquamarine says
“You hear that David Miscavige? Tony says you’re a dumb cracker with fleas, a troglodyte who comes from caves, has orgies and plays with dogs. DM you are a fool.”
Sounds… about right to me.
Hey, even a despicable, raving lunatic like Tony M can it hit the mark occasionally 🙂
Patty says
???
Susie says
IS thank you for pointing that out. I’ve “seen” you all over the interwebs for ages and enjoyed your posts, comments and videos but I always wondered about the name lol
Richard says
I only listened to a little bit of his nonsense. He probably neglected to mention that the Nation of Islam is waiting for the “Mother Plane” to arrive and transport their intelligent selves off the planet.
Aquamarine says
@ Richard,
The “Mother Plane”, huh?
Thanks for the laugh.
Hadn’t heard that “datum” before as re the NOI.
Woo is no end of fun when I don’t take it seriously 🙂
Richard says
From the wikipedia article on the Nation of Islam:
The Mother Plane and Ezekiel’s Wheel
Main article: Ezekiel’s Wheel
Elijah Muhammad taught his followers about a Mother Plane or Wheel, a UFO that was seen and described in the visions of the prophet Ezekiel in the “Book of Ezekiel”, in the Hebrew Bible.
Now as I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the earth beside the living creatures, one for each of the four of them. As for the appearance of the wheels and their construction: their appearance was like the gleaming of beryl. And the four had the same likeness, their appearance and construction being as it were a wheel within a wheel. When they went, they went in any of their four directions without turning as they went. And their rims were tall and awesome, and the rims of all four were full of eyes all around.
— Ezekiel 1:15–18 (ESV)
Farrakhan, commenting on his teacher’s description said the following:
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad told us of a giant Mother Plane that is made like the universe, spheres within spheres. White people call them unidentified flying objects (UFOs). Ezekiel, in the Old Testament, saw a wheel that looked like a cloud by day but a pillar of fire by night. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that that wheel was built on the island of Nippon, which is now called Japan, by some of the Original scientists. It took $15 billion in gold at that time to build it. It is made of the toughest steel. America does not yet know the composition of the steel … ” etc.
Aquamarine says
Wow! Thanks, Richard.
This gives talking snakes and water-walkers a run for their money.
Someone should write a book about religious magic throughout the ages up to the present and call it, “The Book of Woo”
Mark says
This post reaffirms the reality that everything needed to debunk scientology, a garbage heap of useless jargon, bogus ” tech “, and half-baked ideas designed to deceive and degrade those who are conned into believing it, is contained in its voluminous writings. You don’t even have to bother with the insider shit like the administrative and technical(turds) volumes, just peruse Dianetics, Science of Survival, History of Man, The Art Book, and Intro to Scientology Ethics to find a veritable plethora of utterly stupid, false, contradictory assertions and pompous ” conclusions “.
Old Surfer Dude says
Outstanding post, Mark! I couldn’t have said it better.
Glenn says
I just had a LFBD from reading that Mark!!! Thanks so much.
Shereefe says
I’m commenting for the first time so bear with me. Law Enforcement probably are unaware of Scientology’s alleged criminal behavior. How many times does scientologists write ” why doesn’t law enforcement do something?” Here’s a scenario
I get in a uniform and go arrest DM. My commander asks “what are the charges?”
I reply “assault & battery, robbery, stalking, kidnapping, etc” . I then go to court and the judge asks to see the formal complaint. I don’t have one. I tell the judge and Scientology attorneys that I read it all on a blog. I did conduct a raid at “The Hole” but everybody stated they wanted to be there.” Judge slams down his gavel and states “Case Dismissed!!” I then get fired from my job.
Without formal charges, law enforcements hands are tied. I understand that with, statue of limitations on certain crimes, most people who write on this blog can no longer file formal complaints. But please stop insinuating law enforcement does nothing. They need something to work with. Where ex members know how Scientology works it would help law enforcement if you guys let law enforcement know what goes on. With no communication or complaints, law enforce could easily assume all is fine in Scientology.
Also, it would be my luck, it’s a boring shift, hear on the radio that they’re filming something in the park and two stars are on site. I drive over to check it out, never imaging that someone was counting how many cruisers show up. Damn!
Gravitysucks says
Hi Shereefe. In the Masterson rape cases, one of the victims stated she tried to get a copy of her report. She was told it was lost.
I believe there are good and bad cops. Given the past to present reputation of LA law enforcement, what would you recommend to restore the community’s faith in them?
Wynski says
No Shereefe, to be law enforcement in LA (management level) one would have to have been confined to a cave without media access to NOT be aware of the MANY allegations of felonious behavior of the CoS
Gravitysucks says
By “losing” the report, LAPD and LADA have colluded with Co$’ protecting a serial rapist. Oh yeah, alleged serial rapist. This collusion has also left DonkeyPunch’s victims unprotected, fair game for Scientology’s terrorism.
There is no excuse.
Susie says
Law enforcement officials are well aware of Scientologys criminal behavior. There is absolutely no denying that. The reasons they don’t prosecute are because those in the bubble will not and cannot testify against COS or a fellow member, some that are out whose testimony would be damaging are afraid to speak out (some have been paid off, some are afraid of what the church will say as retaliation, some simply want to put COS behind them, some are afraid they may be prosecuted for their actions while in, some are afraid etc). The local, state and federal governments are also hamstrung by the fact COS is a “church” and therefore some of the things they do are not considered criminal acts. And yes there are those in Law Enforcement who turn a blind eye because they have been paid off, fooled into believing COSs lies or are afraid of what running afoul of the church will do to their careers, livelyhood or life.
There are way too many reasons (and frankly excuses) why law enforcement doesn’t come down on the church but lack of awareness is NOT one.
Aquamarine says
Wow, Susie – great comment, and it makes total sense. I actually feel better after having read it. Some ongoing confusion I was experiencing concerning this issue has lifted. Thank you!
Zee Moo says
With the exception of Los Angeles, I think most of the ‘fellow travelers’ are ignorant of $cientology and its principals. I prefer to believe that most people are basically good. Just like Lron says in one of his pamphlets.
The LAPD should know better and they do, they just don’t care who they schmooze with. Some poor ‘public relations officer’ would rather have cake and coffee with the Clams than scouring the streets for real crimes.
However, stealing case info, like the rape allegations against Danny Masterson, bespeaks another Snow White campaign.
Cindy says
Great article, Mike. I hope some police and police chiefs read it so as to know what Scns really think of them. In one quote it sounded like they were describing David Miscavige: “…they are composed of down stats who couldn’t make it in life any other way.” Can you imagine DM on the outside without Scn and its money propping the shrimp up? What a fun sight that would be.
Glenn says
Thanks Mike.
I’d never read that chapter of the Ethics book. But I can see where he is coming from.
In my 22 years working in the government I fought ruthlessly against agencies who operated purely in their own interests and cast public interest aside completely. I blocked their efforts to expand their jurisdictions, raise fees and create new laws which would cost the citizens they were supposed to be serving many millions of dollars. I was ruthless in blocking it all and held my ground passionately. I knew the law well and never violated it so could never be attacked or silenced. I retired with my head held high and a heart filled with the knowledge that I truly had served the public I was supposed to.
Guess Blubbard didn’t know me.
Old Surfer Dude says
He knows you. He’s just scared of you.
Glenn says
And he should be.
Thanks for pointing that out OSD
LDW says
Insert Scientology International Management or OSA into any slot naming the police or FBI and you have a much more accurate assessment of the real scene.
“To OSA, their own charter is not only a subject for mirth, but the Creed of the CoS (which they are sworn to uphold) is just “garbage” which impedes their headlong terror zeal”
When was the last time you saw any Scientologist, let alone OSA or CoS management apply, “We of the church believe that all men have inalienable right to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others.”
Ms. B. Haven says
Well, these writings from the Founder clearly demonstrate his prescience. If I recall correctly he wrote this sacred text quite some time before he hatched Operation Snow White (for you never-ins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White ). He KNEW way beforehand that the FBI and other police/government organizations were just a bunch of gosh darn meanies and evil doers because they were able to squelch that little caper. I’m sure that LRH was absolutely devastated when they hauled his third (not his second) wife off to the Big House and he was not able to exercise his OT abilities to save her from such a degraded fate. The gathering forces of suppression must have been overwhelming…
Aquamarine says
🙂 Ms B.
Gravitysucks says
Gosh darn meanies. ?
Skyler says
How in the world can any police organizations be satisfied to engage in any kind of “hand-holding” with The Scam given they are viewed in such a negative way?
My guess would be there may be some underhanded cash being passed between these people “under the table” (so to speak).
Mike? What is involved for people in The Scam to transfer money from their bank accounts and turn it into cash to be used to pay bribes and so-called “donations”? Is it possible to trace those cash transactions?
Aquamarine says
Skyler, because the cult employs the police as security guards for their events and donates to the PBA and other police causes, such as those that help the widows and orphans of slain or disabled policemen, etc. These donations, along with the very good money they make policing events in their spare time, probably make the police kindly disposed to the cult. The cult probably love bombs them too. Police get used to disrespect and outright insults from the general public. A little well done charm, flattery and appreciation go a long way with the police and the cult people are VERY good at this.
Peter Blood says
Too many officers have SFBrains. And even by $cientology claims of being a religion any government entity like law enforcement needs to steer clear of any close association with religions, or cults.
Peggy L says
Sad that those LE officials have such fragile egos that being stroked by the cult is all it takes to betray what they had sworn to protect. Sad but maybe more than that very frightening that they have the power they have. Sad the honorable officers have to work with such corrupt cowards.
Wynski says
Unfortunately most Police Depts are little tyrannies and thus do associate with criminal activities like scamology as noted in the first red boxed text above.
Paul says
The answer is MONEY!!! The police and CO$ LOVE MONEY!!!
Keep paying the cops overtime to work events and you can tell them they are assholes to their face and they will still come and work the event. As long as they get that money the cops just don’t give a shit.
Aquamarine says
I don’t think that’s altogether fair to the police. In the course of simply doing their jobs police get cursed at and insulted all the time. Gone are the days when cops beat such people over the head with night sticks (thank God). They are trained to completely ignore verbal abuse and not engage. Being a cop is a very hard job – at least, where I live it is. They deal with the crazies of society every day. And they have to touch them, if there’s an arrest. Think about that. To be a good cop takes a great deal of ability to confront ugliness, dirt, vulgarity and danger. It takes a high ability to control oneself and stay focused without becoming distracted. At any moment they could find themselves in a situation where their instantaneous decision determines their own life or death or the life and death of someone else. This is not a job for everyone. This is not a job where you you turn off from cop-mode to civilian mode easily once your shift is over and you’re home. Its understandable that after 20 years they’re eligible to retire. Twenty years of street cop life is, IMHO, a full lifetime. Some of them are smarter and better than others at the job. Some of them are corrupt or get corrupted. Doctors and accountants can be dishonest and corrupt too. Hubbard painted all police with a broad brush as despicable and contemptible. That’s wrong, its not true and unfair.