It’s been a year since St Louis org sent out the last edition of their magazine (Clear View) that included recent course and auditing completions.
St. Louis “services” many surrounding states, including the eastern half of Missouri. Western Kentucky, Southern Illinois, Iowa, Arkansas. St. Louis itself has a population of nearly 3 million.
Here is what they have accomplished in the last year. Donna Williams by the way is a staff member at the org. And the girl at the bottom, Allie Lane, was raised in Scientology. She is the daughter of STL Org Executive Director Chad Lane. Needed to cleanse those drugs out of her body very badly apparently…
You will note, not a single Clear. Nobody even completed Grade Zero, let alone Life Repair.
Only 5 people completed a “Golden Age of Knowledge” course (which includes reading a single book).
A grand total of two Academy Levels and apparently neither one of them could complete more than a single level in a year.
This is the REAL state of scientology. It has, to all intents and purposes, ceased to exist in St. Louis. And they’re still trying to raise money for an “ideal org”…
That is how irrational and blind the people in the scientology bubble are. They should be putting every bit of effort into trying to resuscitate their dead org.
Just watch the docu and I stay 7 blocks from the veil place and it sickens me to my soul you all are heroes and if I can help I. St. Louis to shut it down I will. I will not accept this in my city and neighborhood
St. Louis Org Facebook says they have Sunday services at 10:00AM. I drove by today at 10:30 and there were 23 cars in the parking lot.
I asked a top level about Sunday services here. Her answer; “I don’t know what time they are. I’ve never been.”
Please leave the Delmar Loop area. Many St Louisans despise Scientology for choosing their current location. Not too many people in this sector of Wogdom tolerate cults, from the LDS to Scientology. Dave, please visit so we can give you the special Joseph Smith treatment.
This former white power satanic group needs to go NAO. If you really read LRH’s older materials he was decidedly racist and an enthusiast about eugenics (like Wile E Coyote and Margaret Sanger had an abortion). Hope LRH was reincarnated as one of Trump’s hemorrhoids…if so it’d make sense why so many in SCN kiss his posterior online.
Scientology hides behind the skirts of the Evangelicals, who in turn kiss Trump’s ass because – well, I haven’t figured that out yet, actually! But they sure do kiss it. Scientology kisses Trump’s ass to unite in solidarity with the Christian Right’s opinion leaders, who obligingly turn a blind eye to Scientology’s well documented abuses. Gotta love those family values 🙂
“Dave, please visit so we can give you the special Joseph Smith treatment”
As a devout Mormon, I can only paraphrase Weird Al Yankovic:
“I really don’t care. In fact, I wish you well.
‘Cause I’ll be laughin’ my head off when you’re burnin’ in hell!”
Peace.
I saw a reality show on TV last night about the Fundamentalist LDS (Mormons), headed by Warren Jeffs even though he is in jail. I saw some similarities with the cult of Scn. They separate families by this new thing of saying that if you are super good and devout, you will be in this sect within the sect, and those people who are deemed worthy are taken from their family and segregated with “the best of the best.” So moms lose their kids that way. The show followed one mom whose daughter was taken from her at age 10 cuz the mom was deemed “not worthy.” No specifics were given of what she did to make her be labeled. It was all just B.S. with no proof. The mom hadn’t seen her daughter for three years. So these two ex Mormons who escaped have a mission to help others escape the Mormon or FLDS cults. They tried to get this mom out and she anted to go get the 13 year old girl, so they did. So the mom and four kids was leaving and they were helping her. But the 13 year old had been so brainwashed against her mom, that she didn’t want to be with the mom who she thought was unworthy and she demanded to go back to the FLDS compound. The mom wanted to leave but in the end took them all back to the compound. The mom was then sent to “The Hole” at least their version of it for punishment. That is how Scn and this cult gets kids to leave the parents — they feed them lies about how bad their mom is. The men dominate and run the women and abuse them psychologically.
Cindy, Mormons and FLDS are not the same thing. My church, The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints, deplores and opposes the FLDS. We see Warren Jeffs for who and what he is and that is a disgusting pervert. There are organizations in Salt Lake City run by Mormons who help and assist men, women, and children who have escaped from this nightmare. Just pointing out that LDS and FLDS are two diametrically opposed things.
Thanks Ab for the clarification. I am ashamed I didn’t know this difference.
The LDS and FLDS were both founded on fraud. Joe Smith got caught with his pants down and had to come up with a story for his wife. The golden tablet was a story to be told. I don’t know if his wife was just that dumb or as twisted as Joseph? Brigham Young should have been hung at that time in history for his murders of the missourians.As for Scientology,its all about the Benjamin’s. LRH was one of the best cons of all time. He and Joe Smith are both burning in hell. I say these words as a child of Christ my one and only Lord and savior. No God before he!!!
Moving up “The Bridge??”
More like jumping off said bridge… ?
Wow….the memories come back in a weird rush sometimes. Not sure if it was in Marin County, Lucas Valley in grade school late 70’s/early 80’s or Mission Bay, San Diego in mid-late 80’s high school……applied scholastics is ringing bells and memories. This is just sad. Close it up Dave, call in the dogs and piss on the fire. It’s over. Very soon someone is gonna come knocking with handcuffs and lawyers that money can not buy. The entire planet will celebrate your demise. How to better be known in history……the self installed ruler of SCN, who was a sadist and tyrant or the man that thought he was doing the right thing but was very, very wrong and turned himself in. Or my personal hope….go Scarface style Davey boy….make that go right.
Mike you are my constant hero and reminder to help those that can not help themselves. Thank you for what you’ve done and still do.
Great post Mike Rinder. Thank you for all you do.
I used to go to the Scientology Morgue in St Louis…. many moons ago.
It was a Morgue back then.
It is a Morgue now and
it will always be a Morgue.
It is a place where people go to die. Either slowly or very quicly…..eventually – Scientology kills.
It kills physically, mentally and spiritually and the scars never go away.
Scientology disables the able.
Poor Chad Lane – he is a mess.
The other ED, Matt Hanses, is a mess too.
They have switched valences and have gone to the dark side…..a common occurance if you stay in too long and drink too much of the koolaid. They are heartless and have no empathy for anyone.
I still cry over my friend, Rachel Wilkinson, who hung herself in her garage after the Church kicked her out.
Rachel was an ex Int Base Sea Org Staff member that got pregnant (before the forced abortions) and was sent to St Louis to serve on staff.
Rachel hung herself after Matt Hanses made sure she was “personna non grata” over some alleged transgression she had with Chad Lane and could not confront it.
To add salt to their wounds, Rachel and her husband, Wil, lost their house to foreclosure after serving on staff for many years.
They have 2 daughters.
Never under estimate the power this cult has.
Scientology KILLS!
“Scientology disables the able.” ✨???
Heh – my mole connected to active St Louis staff tells me Donna Williams “went Clear” – she realized she was making the whole thing up. and SHE WAS!
poor Donna Williams…
Now they will tell her she is in the DANGER ZONE and must go Oat Tea
Well….at least she can get some lovin from the Regges now that she is working and has money
When she was on Staff – they treated her like shit.
I felt sorry for her.
Feeling sorry for someone is a high crime
in Scientology
Why am I under the assumption the ED’s name is Stephanie?
If they have any staff, they aren’t getting paid. How to they expect to pay the electric bill for some million dollars “ideal org”? Oh ya, “Build it and they will come!” Ya,, right…..
Matt – have you not been reading the comments? You “achieve your goals” in St Louis by selling sheets on street corners.
I also noticed a strange phenomena in another Org
To make it go right …. you can also sell rugs on street corners
Gypsies, Tramps and S Pee’s!
How DO they pay the electric bills?
Thanks, Mary. I’ve ALWAYS wondered how these empty orgs pay the electric bills!
By crush selling public and by not paying the staff. I can’t tell you how many times they had to give us half pay or no pay in order to pay the bills.
That was what I encountered when I first joined staff in Nashville right at the org grand opening. The ‘city office’ on 16th avenue was a rented house with maybe five academy students and three preclears. And they are going to move this dinky thing into that huge building on 8th Avenue? But the overall mood was, as you said, build it and they will come. What makes it so funny was that one of the speakers at the 2009 ribbon yanking was Jenna Elfman who concluded her speech with these words: “it’s also why this certainly will not be the last time I’ll be seeing y’all here in Nashville!”.She never set foot in the org after that! I’m not kidding you! We never saw her again after that! I did get to meet the Diminutive Dwarf and that was not a pleasant encounter.
Yes – She was interviewed by police detectives
You can read the entire transcripts online in the Lisa McPherson Trust website
So was Keri Lee and Craig Burton
They all worked with Lisa
Bennetta assisted in the cover up to relatives
So OT
My understanding is – David Miscavige did not want them found for depositions and court regardingvlawsuit from family
So everyone
Including
Craig Burton
Keri Lee
Bennetta Slaughter
Hid out at Applied Scholastics in Spanish Lake
For years
I did not like any of them
All assholes
Mike – thanks for this post.
We went to St Louis Org for a while and faded into the nothingness Scientology wants you to be when you know the truth.
Allie Lane is the daughter of Chad and Stephanie Lane. Chad is the ED of St Louis and Stephanie is on staff. Chad Lane’s step father sold drugs – he was a pharmacist. How on earth did Chad Lane stay so long – like 20 years.
I heard he was skilled at manipulating people into bankruptcy – highly trained in the tech of deceit and fraud.
I guess they will throw him under the bus eventually due to being connected to the psychs….hence illegal pc and PTS !
It is sad they are now going after the kids
Desperate times for the Church is Scientology in St Louis Missouri
Allie is a child. Look at the brainwashing in her success story.
Tabitha Andrews is also a kid – she is now being used because no one is coming into Scientology
Tabitha is the daughter of lead auditor Kerry Andrews and OT dad- Rick Andrews
The Andrews lived in their home for years and did not pay their mortgage
This was back during the banking mess
Eventually – the bank kicked them out
How’s that for the most ethical beings on the planet?
Sad to see them still drinking the koolaid and feeding their kids
I wonder what they’d think if they knew OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 all had to do with exorcising “body-thetans” whom Xenu left on earth since the Wall of Fire/4th Dynamic Engram?
Scientologists almost universally take a decades long runway of courses and auditing before they learn that someday, on OT levels 3 through 7, they will be snipe-hunting for Xenu’s “body-thetans” left on earth and in their bodies.
Such a long long con, to find out they are going to be doing a whole lot of Hubbard exorcism of Xenu’s “body-thetans” off themselves and others.
Snipe-hunting to come years from now, such a huge long delay them finding out how much snipe-hunting is to come.
Did someone say “snipe-hunting”?! No need to wait for OT to do that. I remember doing that in the Boy Scouts, along with looking to borrow tent stretchers and left-handed smoke shifters.
I don’t recall any long runway but I was out of scn by 1982. It’s a good thing that the “scripture” is now available for public inspection. In the 1970’s and 1980’s it was well hidden. Two or three hundred hours of auditing in the hope of attaining some degree of self awareness and a supposedly advanced state of being called Clear is not necessarily that huge of an investment, but following it up to go OT takes many years in the current environment. It’s no shortcut to Nirvana or being “at cause” or whatever someone expects.
I didn’t pursue the OT levels so I don’t know how long it took back then. The OT levels could be purchased as a package. After completing the package there were other super duper high priced services to buy. It was a different marketing strategy back then.
Cons unable to make it in the world must scare or buy their opponents off. A Pat Broeker with balls had made it on the net.
If life is existence people making peoples existence down exist.
The St. Louis org seems to be a case of one of the small and failing orgs that got way in over its head buying a large historic property to renovate years ago, and has been stuck in the debacle of owning a deteriorating unused property, that has been bleeding them of cash ever since.
Scientology PR pieces now show renderings of the existing building that the org occupies just being renovated – and it’s only about 18,000 square feet, not the approximately 50,000 that was supposed to be the latest and greatest for “ideal” orgs, with no obvious sign of a massive addition planned. Someone has reported that they are going to give up on the derelict building they had bought and sell it, though apparently it’s such a troubled project that there have been rumors of that going back to around 2014 – and I have yet to see any signs of it actually being put on the market.
There’s some history of the org and its “ideal” campaign troubles at the link below, though it misses the fact that the building suffered a lot of damage in its first few years of Scientology ownership and neglect, and at one point got a reported approximately $1 million in initial renovation work; and, as has been reported here, that apparently members have been ruined financially and lost their own homes, after having been “regged” into giving more to the the fundraising campaign than they could really afford:
https://whyweprotest.net/threads/new-critical-blog-for-the-church-of-scientology-of-st-louis-missouri-doubt-formula.118709/
The million dollars they used to start renovations in 2009 – 2010 was obtained from a “questionable and out ethics insurance claim” SCIENTOLOGY FILED AND OBTAINED.
They claimed someone stole gutters and caused the roof to leak
The roof leaked before they bought it
They muzzled that information and used that as a shill – so they could raise more money
And it worked
Chad Lane told us in 2009 – 2010 they only needed about $900,000 more to complete project
He also was quoted in the newspaper that the building would open soon – 2009 – 2010
Chad Lane was lead fundraiser and made commissions off of funds
Much like the Super Power Building SCAM
The amount of money needed to “start” Reno’s went up each year
It started at $1 million or so
Then it went up to $4,000,000
Then $6,000,000
Then $9,000,000
Then $12,000,000
We stopped keeping track
It obviously is nothing but a Scam to get everyone’s money
St Louis has an ARC broken field
It’s dead!
When Xenu’s “body-thetans” snipe hunting hits them for the foolishness that that Hubbard con is, they will even be more chagrined.
All their hard work for Xenu’s “body-thetaans” snipe-hunting. Years of it still ahead, hopefully they learn of the years of upcoming Xenu “body-thetans” snipe-hunting they have to do (OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are all to do with Xenu’s “body-thetan” snipe-hunting), and hopefully they find out the secrets soon and quit fast.
Thanks to you and everyone who has contributed history and status information about the St. Louis org. I’ve rarely seen such detail from so many people, particularly for a small org, and it’s really useful to understand what’s going on, and to get more of a full picture of one of these orgs, especially one that seems to really be crippled from a combination of everything that afflicts orgs these days. It’s also really interesting to hear that some of the remaining truly dedicated members are apparently just giving up on the local org and moving to Clearwater.
I would really appreciate a bit more help in nailing down specifics of how many members they have who are really active, what the size of the total “field” is that will show up for major events a few times a year is, and how many full-time staff members they have – or how they get by with part-timers, etc. I counted 31 different names on the lists – is that about the number of active members, particularly if those on upper levels have just moved to Clearwater? (12 of those are in the Introductory Services listings)
It appears that there was also talk of abandoning the historic building bought to be renovated as the “ideal” org at least as far back as 2014, but I see no sign of it being put on the market yet. Does anyone know more about what the status of the building is?
And current renderings show the existing org building, the old Masonic temple, being renovated to become an “ideal” facility. But from what I can tell the building is only about 18,000 square feet over 3 levels, and I see no indications they plan to add on to it, so are they really headed towards ending up with an “ideal” facility far smaller than any other opened so far?
I can give you information. I have data plus a fairly accurate list from an ex staffer in St Louis. They keep me up to date on the latest blows, deaths and recoveries.
ED Note: I would like to turn your lengthy comment here (that I have now edited down to the first line) into a follow up post because it is so detailed and informative and I am afraid it will be lost if published as just a comment on yesterday’s post.
However, I was unable to contact you using your email address. Please email me using the “Contact Me” button at the top of the home page.
Mike – I did get your email. Thanks. Repost it where ever you feel it will fit. I have a few more names.
Thank you.
Looking forward to these details. SP’s in the House, Whales in the Flag area? Kathy Conable was just beginning her job as resident chiropractor whale when I as there a million years ago. Always had a cold smile that made you pause. And Donna Williams – same Donna with th Dohring whales, NeoPet? Good to hear maybe 40 customers left. Surprised some moving to Clearwater – OT’s were moving Away from ground zero just to get a good nights rest w/o vultures regging at the door. St Louis birthed quite a few GO too, including Duke Snider. STL always been a damp moldy chilly morgue in constant turmoil and turnovers. Orig building use to be a home for unwed mothers during those dark days. Wonder what whale is paying the heating bills.
An ex Veteran who had ECT was going through a nasty divorce – Matt Hanses exploited his vulnerable state and got $1,000,000 out of Michael – his inheritance.
His parents did not want him associated with Scientology and wanted none of the money to go to it.
Mike donated the inheritance because he wanted them to have a “church” to go to when they come back.
They paraded him around after they got him to donate to the Ideal Org – he gave like $100,000. They totally used him.
Very tragic how they exploited this poor guy.
Cathy Conable – COLD and uncaring. Donna Williams – door mat for staff to use and wipe their feet on.
This is priceless!
“St Louis has always been a damp moldy chilly morgue in constant turmoil and turnovers.”
Can you list who was in the GO in St Louis?
I knew these people – not sure if I spelled their names correctly.
Mark Hanses?
Brad Bauman?
Marci Sargent?
Goldi Goldwasser?
Wil Wilkinson?
Ellen Maher Forney?
Steve Forney?
Alvah Levine?
Richard Brown?
Rex Bales?
Yeah, interesting to hear about some of the St. Louis diehards moving to Clearwater, when others are moving away from there to get out of the hothouse environment, and their numbers actually seem to be going down. I guess they don’t realize that they’re going from the frying pan into the fire. And as someone else pointed out, maybe they are heading for finally realizing that the SPs aren’t on the local org staff, but in the Fort Harrison executive suite.
They don’t even use the third floor now!
Wow! Truth Revealed!
Thank you Mike
St Louis has been circling the drain for many years
They bankrupted many people for their Ideal Org building that is still sitting vacant after 11 years of fund raising.
Isn’t that fraud?
They extorted a ton of money out of us for the library campaign – to put “the Basics” into all libraries
Then more money for the huge building purchased in 2007.
We faded away after seeing for ourselves there was no expansion anywhere and the libraries threw out the books
What a racket!
We were told “those libraries were controlled by THE PSYCHS.
Cringe!
There was a newspaper article in the St Louis Post Dispatch a few years after they purchased it
announcing they were renovating the Ideal Org and opening it soon
Now they are selling the building !
Scientology LIES!
Where are Benetta and David Slaughtered?
Bennetta Slaughter was shipped to St Louis along with Keri Lee and Craig Burton.
Read the entire Lisa McPherson Trust website and find the players involved in the cover up
Bennetta Slaughter was one of them
David Miscavige hid those people connected to Lisa McPherson so they could not be questioned by the police.
They all worked at Applied Scholastics. In Hiding
Bennetta Slaughter has blown Scientology and is hiding in Memphis – according to people that knew her.
She was a bitch!
She left Clearwater after thr McPherson case was over and I am sure she was interviewed by the investigators. Does not mean she was not s bitch. OSA tried to get her to spy on me some years later.
Bennetta Slaughter. Yes. Such a warm and fuzzy person. She was such “good friends” with david miscavige. Good riddance. But I have wondered if she and miscavige have some sort of tacit agreement to just shut up about each other. She managed to “drift away” like Tommy Davis.
Awesome post Mike
We are out and hiding UTR while we decompress from the betrayal of this evil cult
We are from St Louis and Donna Williams left staff and moved to Houston
The Org in St Louis used her as a slave for years – she worked like a dog cleaning houses and living in members basements and spare bedrooms.
Now they are love bombing her to “do services” in St Louis – giving her a lot of attention and care – because she is working a real job and getting paid.
We hope they don’t destroy her like they have to so many others
Suicides, death, cancer and financial ruin are the VFP of St Louis – Missouri Church of Scientology
We hope they close!
Keep doing what you do
It is helping
Blood is smeared over St Louis Church of Scientology
Criminal ED Chad Lane
This example pretty much covers Scientology as a whole. For a long time now this blog has tried to come to terms with what goes on inside the bubble imo. Trying to come to understandable terms with insanity is a contradiction in terms, but that’s what Scientology is & the phenomena it presents. It is also difficult for an ex-Scientologist to try to reconcile just how degraded Scientology continues to get. That makes it really tough when family/friends & loved ones are trapped in it. Nothing is tougher to live with than a loved one telling you, “I don’t want you to love me anymore, it doesn’t mean anything to me, I’m leaving you”, for that in essence is what disconnection is all about. That old human term, “absence makes the heart grow fonder,” only applies to relatively sane people, never the tech/policy of Scientology or the associated lifestyle it produces. Never have I experienced anything like the nuttiness of the organization of Scientology – it leaves the greatest of stains on human intelligence. The more you scrub at it the more unbelievable it gets.
Having your cake and eating it too, Hubbard’s legacy.
St Louis is really dead.
We heard from members that St Louis is now selling their Ideal Org property and staying in their current location !
How do you like that real estate Scientology scam?
Scientology got approximately $5 – $6 million out of the St Louis staff and members over 10 years of lying about the Ideal Org.
Many went broke and lost homes to foreclosure.
Many Staff members have left staff.
Public are pretty much gone
There are a handful of members who still drink the cult flavored kool aid …..and they have recently moved to Clearwater – the Mecca. Where they think the cult grass is greener.
I know one of them who moved to Clearwater
They think St Louis has SP’s inside of staff and that is why they are all leaving
Little do they know – LRH, David Miscavige and the entire Church
is their SP
I’d add Hubbard to the list of persons most responsible for across the boards, a whole lot of people worldwide wasting money and their time, in the Hubbard charade “religion” especially since the lower Scientologists never get to put two and two together, and never get wised up, nor the OT veterans, about how ludicrous Xenu’s “body-thetans” handling from Hubbard is essentially snipe-hunting that goes on for years, OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are essentially snipe-hunting, that takes years to realize it’s bogus.
The “new” OT 4-7 is what did it for me. I could suspend belief enough to get through OT 3, then onto the old OT 4-7. When NOTS came out and I found out it was just more BTs, I was done. Then NOTS became the new OT levels, I figured SCN was pretty much done too.
The only way I could “think with” there being so much exorcism of “body-thetans” is if they are really real, and are really hard to have reality on sufficient to find and exorcism them. I mean if people’s “cases” (reality on their mental whole track accumulated “own case” or the “case” leaking into oneself from one’s orbiting/embedded “body-thetans'” cases] either way, it was a lower level “case” principle of Hubbard’s that a person is only aware of such and such a level of their own “case” and they slowly have to become more and more aware of what is “wrong” with themselves. But that’s just a long con man angle on this whole thing.
Especially if none of the OT Scientologists are actually doing anything at all that is supernatural.
Scientology hopes a person regains their OT supernatural abilities, and no one ever does get anything other than hallucinatory subjective certainty they have themselves done something OT, it’s not that any OT Scientologists are demonstrating their OT abilities and being recognized for their supernaturalness.
So, no OTs and no supernatural abilities demonstrated, to me, is the biggest letdown, not necessarily the theory of it all.
No results, and that’s Hubbard’s fault, it’s his false claims that results in the OT department will occur, but no OT results occur, and neither did he demonstrate any supernatural OT results.
So, for that, it’s a scam.
Hi he cult grass is greener in Clearwater
They are the Mecca of technical extortion
“Hi he cult grass is greener in Clearwater”
NOT in my experience. When I first came home after getting used to the faded greens of Clearwater, I was AMAZED how green everything was around here at Easter-time. My guess is that the sun’s so strong in FL that the plants don’t need nearly as much chlorophyll to survive. EITHER THAT or the sun bleaches everything out.
More likely, the cult LEECHES all the color and goodness out of everything.
They should just give numbers. The repetition of names looks badly, not anything to celebrate.
Keep up the exposure Mike. Shouldn’t be long now before the great gullible public realizes scientology is a dead ‘religion’. Sooner, rather than later….
I just drove by their building today in U City, a Masonic Temple they purchased. It has seen better days. With no inside knowledge I predicted 100-200 members. I think it is closer to 100 than 200. I wonder if the municipality hasn’t fined them for needed repairs to the building. With a surrounding population of 3 million people how can these very few $ci members believe $ci is expanding?
Gordon – we were in. They used to have around 100 members a decade ago
They have about 40 active members around now
At best
Many have left and just recently a bunch moved to Clearwater
Karate, friend me on Facebook if you don’t mind.
I’m glad it’s dead. When I read the word “uptone,” I think it would have been the perfect name for a garage band back in the early Sixties — The Uptones.
The Uptones: With the false smiles
I’m picturing The Uptones with sharkskin suits and snapping their fingers to the do-wop (or should that be do-wog) beat.
Miss Q, the do-Wog beat is best. You have a fine taste in music!
How about the Flunkettes? Scientology girl do-op group.
“The Uptownes”. But if they get into Ethics trouble they get called the Downtones.
I’d like to get Ms. Allie Lane to “energize” me ! ( I’ve been in the dumps ever since hillary lost) Please, Call Me!
I think they’re more interested in Third Dynamic “energy flows” at the moment (uplines).
There seems to be a complete disconnect with the St. Louis org report today and with what Lisa gushed about in yesterdays blog on the Denmark org. My conclusion?
Lisa, of the 24 emoji’s, is star struck by what she has been told by the Denmark org. What she has been told….. by…the ….org. Innocent and gullible are words that I would use for her. Since the org lies, and lies about it’s stats, the only way the truth will come to Lisa is when she opens her eyes and sees the factual numbers of public coming and going through the doors.
Certainly would have helped if I’d just read the text instead of instantly reacting to the picture…
Well, to make dumb even dumber, this isn’t even Kentucky, this is St. Louis Missouri. For a sec I confused St Louis with Louisville which is in Kentucky and then further confused it with the Cincinnati Org which is in Florence, Kentucky…maybe I should just go back to bed…
Na, just turn up the heat and insist on being right about all your thoughts. Get some money donated and start up a cult. It worked for Scioland for awhile, got ’em heaps of money and real estate. We could call it ‘Aqualand Adventures’. I’ve got a free afternoon, I’ll come listen as long as there’s free food. If you can convince me (best of luck), I’m in!
You’re right, Yawn! Right about everything you said I was right about! And, yes, I’ll insist on being right. St. Louis IS Louisville. And so is Louisiana. They’re all named after the same ole French Frog King Louis the something or other, aren’t they? Jeesh!
Aqualand Adventures is already in the works, Yawn. Nice name but coincidentally I thought of it first. Thanks anyway, though. But look, I know I’m going to be persecuted and the SPs are going to try to shut me down, so I’ve decided to make the bathhouse a church. If you’re available I’d appreciate some help with the religious angle.
The religious angle? Geezers… that’s easy. It’s religious because you say it is! There’s a certain number of responsibilities with being head honcho of a cult and one of the top ones is always, “because I say so”. Hubbard did it KSW. Hitler did with the SS & Gestapo. MIscavige does it with a whole heap of stolen money and crooked lawyers. Bathhouse Justice is my suggestion… I know it sounds a lot like BJ… but you gotta be tough to sport a religious angle. I know you will flourish & prosper, the true & proper cult way, it’s the only way to go.
Wow. I feel totally empowered.. I am infused with the energy and power of the exalted beings with whom I’ve been rightfully place. And there’s a knowingness somehow, that I belong with these people and always have. I can’t thank you enough, Yawn. I’ve come home, at last.
Go sic ’em! Remember, cult leaders take no prisoners. They are either in or out & a little blood on the hands is character enhancing.
Stop!!! I’m spinning out of control!
If we in Scientology lose the eastern half of Missouri due to apathetic Scientologists, then we lose the planet. Seriously, though, this area of the US is so inbred and totally wog that we totally don’t care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nggqe-L9ZQ8
Hey, I’m pretty sure I saw cousin Rosco out Body Routing with FOOLproof just last week. This is a very inspirational video. You in RTC keep up the good work!!!
(There’s photographic evidence that FOOLproof actually exists at 2:30, but I highly recommend watching the whole music video)
Haha! It seems I have really got under Mrs Chief Lab Rat’s skin. There is no “scientific evidence or research” to back up your claim, which is quite usual for you anyway.
Ok Foolp, it’s time for Ms. B. to eat some crow here. I fully acknowledge my ignorance and have changed my ways. I also fully acknowledge and agree with you that my ridiculous harping about the scientific method and insistence upon standardized research procedures is indeed a wrongheaded approach to the mind and is a false path. I have re-read a tattered copy of ‘History of Man’ (What to Audit) and now agree that these incidents on all of our whole tracks are valid. Of course I have no research or evidence to verify that the images at around the 2:30 mark in the above referenced video are of yourself and Cousin Rosco out Body Routing. Since I have renounced sound scientific procedures, I don’t need any evidence other than my own Knowingness. Admittedly the photo of you is unflattering but I believe it is clear evidence that Plitdown Man existed on the whole track and the photo was probably a selfie you took whilst in the middle of running out this nasty incident. At least I hope that you have flattened this incident and it is not a current photo. If that is not the case, I recommend copious amounts of Word Clearing (all 9 methods please) and sufficient Review Auditing at the Mecca of Technical Perfection, Scientology’s Flag Land Base. The friendliest place on the planet. If that doesn’t work, perhaps it would be a good idea to invoke some OT abilities and transcend space and time and get in comm with Dr. Hubbard himself to provide a solution to unstick the hangup at the Plitdown Man incident. Best of luck.
ml,
Ms. B. Haven (Chief Lab Rat I/C, reformed)
Scientifically speaking, what I would like to know is where is the scientific evidence and research for your scientific evidence and research? And is there scientific evidence that your scientific evidence does not in fact exist? Can it be verifiably proven that it does or doesn’t exist?
And is there any scientific evidence that there is any other scientific evidence of any other science of the mind or spirit? Where is the evidence of this evidence if so?
Fool, I believe that you might have an MU here. I said that I was done harping about scientific method, research, etc.
As a result, I broke out my ol’ dusty British Mark V Hubbard Electropsychometer. I admit it doesn’t have a current Silver Cert, but I charged ‘er up anyway and put meself on the cans. After a bit of futzing, all my training came back to me and I felt pretty comfortable at the controls. I hesitantly cracked open History of Man (What to Audit), took a deep breath and had a go at it. To my utter surprise, I got some reads. Boy did I get some reads! Talk about getting some Tone Arm action!!! Well, that was enough for me. Forget the science and research and all that bullshit. I got reads and results so this stuff must be true. Their IS such a thing as Plitdown Man and all the other whole track incidents that Man has in common, I don’t care what Wikipedia says.
I’m not sure what you mean when you mention “…other scientific evidence of any other science of the mind or spirit”. What ‘other’ are you talking about? I don’t know of ANY science of the mind or spirit that has evidence of their existence. Not only is there no evidence produced by science, there is no evidence produced by religion or philosophy either. At least I haven’t seen any.
I have been looking into some methods that definitely produce some subjective results as far as providing an individual transcendent insight into their real nature and the nature of the universe that has applications for overcoming addiction, depression, PTSD, OCD, etc. When I delve a little deeper I may post something on this blog with Mike’s permission. Right now the ‘scientific’ studies show over a 50% success rate with alcoholics. That is far and away better than anything scientology (or any other placebo) can provide or any “other” therapy has been able to provide. Results are inconclusive at this point and more ‘research’ needs to be done and is being done. To the best of my knowledge, scientology doesn’t address these mental problems that some people suffer from. Lots actually. I know, I know, scientology is for the able to become more able. That’s all fine and good (if it were true) but what about scientology helping regular folks where “other” sciences can’t?
LOL!!!
Self C/Sing, Out -Tech and you wonder why you have so much trouble with Scientology?
I love this blog, I have never had so many laughs in all my life.
Just when I thought I had heard it all, about lunatics running OTIII on their back porch, along comes this post.
Love it, keep ’em coming Mike.
Self C/Sing and Out-Tech??? Fool/aka Ex-Cope Officer, you’ve got to be kidding me! I fully duplicated the Founder and Mary Sue ‘Under the Bus’ Hubbard and did exactly what was directed. Here’s the script:
https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/17/rare-tape-reveals-how-l-ron-hubbard-really-came-up-with-scientologys-space-cooties/
Now I have complete certainty that all of the incidents listed in History of Man (What to Audit) really exist and are verifiable facts. Modern science has got it all wrong and is a fool’s game. No offense.
When I get done running these incidents out per the directions in that lofty tome (and it certainly is, according to HCOB Tech Degrades) I am hoping to achieve a level of awe inspiring arrogance and sublime sense of humor that a real OT such as yourself possesses. At that point I will once again be a real scientologist. For now I will continue with my coffee shop explorations of the Whole Track so I can share my wins and never answer the simplest questions posed by raging, deluded, bitter defrocked apostates and SPs hang out on the fringes of the internet managed by unemployed bloggers. If I am persistent and work very hard, I will even be able to join you at OSA monitoring these nasty sites dedicated to Man’s enslavement.
See you soon!!!
Dang! Did ya’all see above?!?! Fool got OWNED Ms.B! Heck yeah Ms. B you go! The sooner all people know the truth the sooner we can all not worry our loved ones will be sucked in to this faithless, soul sucking scam of a dimented dwarf hell bent on his own ruination.
LOL ? hysterical Miss ? haven
Hey OTgrrrr!!! What is this band? Love this song. Off topic, I’m a musician in a band and this song is right up our alley…..can you tell me who it is? Thanks
I’ll intrude here and provide an answer. It’s Choctaw Bingo by James McMurty. Fun song. If you want a more serious take on the cultural background behind this song try Hillbilly Elegy by J. D. Vance. I just read it and it is eye-opening.
Is this where COB stays when he’s in Kentucky?
OK, that’s a joke, don’t get mad at me, Kentuckians, your state is very beautiful.
As long as you never, ever bend over. What’s that sound? Oh, I got it, Dueling Banjos.
OSD, I don’t think anyone could help bending over in this cabin. It doesn’t look high enough to stand up straight in.
And that’s one of the higher priced ones. It’s perfect for me since I’m poor, white, trailer trash. And proud of it!
OSD, let’s get something straight right now:
Human trash comes in ALL sizes, shapes, races, skin colors, IQs, nationalities, demographics and socio economic groups.
You may be white, you may have been born poor and/or have not much money to spare now, your family may have lived in a trailer or live in one now, but none of the above makes someone trash.
Trash is trash and that someone is trash shows up in the speech, actions or general behavior of a person and its usually extremely obvious. .
And I meant to add, iOSD, if this darned job of mine wouldn’t just stop interfering with my blog commenting :), I meant to add that a kind, caring person such as yoursel, a manf who loves people and wants to relieve their sufferings and at the same time lift their spirits up with humor could NEVER in a million years be ” trash”
Obviously, you have an MU. Report to Qual for Word Clearing 🙂
Typos…cringing…
Scientology meets the Dukes Of Hazzard.
Thank you for the photo of the Ideal Cabin; as empty as the Ideal orgs.
Hey, SILVIA!!! Don’t bag on my home! It’s all I got.
No offense dear Old Surfer Dude, your cabin is just fine…you see, it’s IDEAL!
LOL! Now that’s some funny shit!
If she was raised in scn. what drugs did she need to purify? Hair spray? Airplane pollution. Because I guarantee she never had any drugs stronger than an aspirin and probably not even aspirin. I remember them trying to get my kids on and it felt ridiculous. Poor child. She does look perky with a lively attitude though. Maybe that’s from the purify? LOL
I saw a picture once of a child (from St Louis) has accidently ingested a bunch a niacin from a family member doing the Purif. The fucking parent found it funny the child was in such discomfort and called ti good for the child….
It’s the dark ages for Scientology in the US. Maybe a name change would help, such as Stars-Wartology. Ride the success of others has always been their ‘prime directive’. Or perhaps Wonkatology, as they could coincide the name change with the release of the new movie remake. It’s Sunday, have to have a bit of fun. I bet there are a lot more ‘ologies’ to be had. Scientology never was a very authorative name, and it’s a bit odd as was religious technology or spiritual engineering.
I do like the idea of the combination of the mind and spirit wordplay. Like the infamous neurotology. You are making up new words, and it just shows you that word definitions don’t really mean anything. Words don’t have weight, they can just be made up. Definitions don’t really matter in a sense. All those misunderstoods are meaningless when you can just fandangle new ones. Like that?
What’s St. Louis Org doing garnering public from Western Kentucky? That belongs to CCNashville.
Oh, wait. I forgot. Orgs steal from each other. We used to do it all the time!
They should really rename “The Bridge To Total Freedom” as “The Hopscotch Board to Total Confusion.”
The Hopscotch Board to Total Confusion. Hey, that sounds like fun! Is it similar to Candyland?
If it isn’t already, I think I could make a drinking game out of it.
Oh, no bout a doubt that! And, boy, do I love drinking games!
There’s something that comes to mind over & and over again: Circling the Drain.
Left to right or right to left? It’s important you know, standard gravity!
We do it the proper way…
I am sad that it is so dead, and I am happy that others are not going to have their dreams crushed. That is where I entered into Scientology, in St. Louis at the organization close to Grand Avenue in the early 70’s. Alan Walters was there giving a talk. We had such great hopes and dreams. It is now a dream lost.
But, you did get your life back. See, you really do have Super Powers! Congrats!
They should head out to Ladue to the PGA Championship and pass out flyers.
Thanks Mike for posting this
The St Louis staff sell bed sheets on street corners
“Achieve Your.Goals”
in our areas, …….
staff drove taxi to make bucks
staff were window cleaners, carpet cleaners, chimney cleaners, sold rugs on the corner…
sold Amway or Melaleuca…
and before the GO cracked down, everyone who could was on “the gov-ment grant” (welfare)
yep.
powerful OTs….. each and every one!
(and single guys would do your QM duties for 15 bucks a night) (whadda deal!)
Many of the staff now are still on the welfare.
I notice rumors about staff on welfare, from time to time. It seems that its use may have crept back in, though kept very quiet.
Are you referring to St. Louis specifically?
OMG – my Mom passes out flyers at baseball games
I hate Scientology
I have many family in it in St Louis and they are ALL a mess
Divorces and financial ruin
Can’t stay at a job
Scientology is destroying my family
Please keep doing what you do Mike and Leah
You are helping us all
Your show empowers us
We get braver
The truth will set everyone free
Thank you Mike
“I have many family in it in St. Louis and they are ALL a mess”…”Divorces and financial ruin”…”Can’t stay at a job”…
I saw a lot of that when I was in, particularly with Class V staff. Unless they were supported by spouses or were still living comfortably at home with family and no rent or other expenses, many staff went from job to job and rental to rental, living in a really deplorable way. Most of them declared bankruptcy, which didn’t appear to bother them in the slightest. Nor did bouncing from job to job, rental to rental, nor being well over 25 and still sponging on Mommy and Daddy for food, clothing and shelter appear to bother any of those I knew in the slightest.
It sure bothered me, though, and was the main reason i always refused to join staff.
People like this, who live like this, going from job to job, not paying their bills, never staying anywhere very long, or never leaving Mom and Dad and supported by them well past young adulthood used to be called “shiftless”.
I think the current word for it is ‘millenial’ ?
dwarmed, I hear you, but in fairness, I work with millenials all the time in my business. Possibly some of them fall into this lazy and irresponsible category but not the ones I do business with! And I do a lot of business.
I knew long term staff, MARRIED WITH TEENAGE CHILDREN, who STILL .required their parents’ financial support to pay their bills. These are people in their 40s and 50s! Still not able to stand on their own feet. And they’re fine with that! It was all hunky dory with everyone concerned, so far as I could tell.
I would find this embarrassing but they weren’t in the least embarrassed – at least, not the staff that I knew..
Of course, I’m joking and it doesn’t apply to all or most millennials. But when people use the word millennial, they tend to imply the same description that used to be called shiftless.
What makes it so sad is that all around them is the continual admonition to “flourish and prosper ” as well as being told continually to “make it go right”. Why can’t these people make the connect between that and their current situation? What aren’t they seeing?
My theory, for whatever its worth, is that they don’t want to see because seeing would make them wrong for having joined staff. As in having wasted their youth and their healthy energetic middle years on…a big, trumped up, nothing. They’d have been better off as cashiers at Walmart, though if they’re high school dropouts they wouldn’t even qualify for those jobs.
Yes, I have to agree. I was better off when I left staff and took a job at Goodwill.
Goodwill is very cool place! And if you worked there as staff you had first dibs on all the quality stuff! But then you’re a guy so this advantage was most likely wasted on you 🙂