Things are grim out there off the crossroads of the world — sitting alongside the dock in Curacao.
Not only are they bringing in “WISE guys,” they are offering massive discounts to try and get anyone to bother making a trip.
The last Freewinds price list that I could easily find was from 2011. The cheapest week of shared B deck cabin was $1500 and the “Convention Fee” was $1500. They didn’t have a single Basics or Congress Course on their price list, but there is NO service, no matter how small that was ever priced below $1000.
And yet again, ANOTHER seminar on how to “generate sufficient prosperity to rapidly move up the GAG II Bridge… and give anything left over to the IAS.”
Nobody could have contemplated back in the days when L.Ron Hubbard created WISE “to keep criminal scientology businessmen off the backs of orgs” (the stated purpose of WISE — everything else is a PR gloss put on that purpose) that there would be a “WISE guy” headlining a convention aboard the Flagship of the Sea Organization, with second billing, really an afterthought, given to “Top Trained Sea Org Veterans.” Why aren’t the elite of the elite and the most ethical people on earth conducting this convention?
All around, a very revealing peek into the world of the MV Freewinds.
Addition:
For anyone that doesn’t read Tony Ortega’s blog — here is a link to the Tampa Bay Time story about the church’s opposition to the Clearwater Aquarium and how they have hired professionals to investigate the Aquarium and its finances.
So very typical. Obviously there is NOTHING wrong with an Aquarium. It just doesn’t fit Miscavige’s plan. So, therefore it is an enemy. So therefore hire some people to dig up dirt and back them off.
What a guy. What a “church.” What a sick joke.
I had to do it: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=830461017012298&set=gm.748788148522885&type=1&theater
Mike, I’ve been lurking at you since you left in ’09. You are an inspiration and one of my personal heroes. Keep speaking out!
I respect the Sea Org staff on the Freewinds more than those on land. On the Freewinds, you hand over your passport and are then a prisoner, with the Freewinds ship as the prison and the Sea Org staff as prison wardens and torturers who torture every cent from you that you have and can borrow. Whereas the Sea Org staff on land are more devious and inventive in the way they flatter you and trick you out of money. I prefer the more brutal and direct nature of the Freewinds Sea Org staff to the slicker, slower, trickster thieves of the land-based Sea Org staff. They are all scumbags, of course. They will have worked out in two weeks that their job is to betray every Scientologist on the planet that they encounter. And they choose to continue down that path rather than leave and warn their fellow Scientologists. So they are all traitors, thieves and liars. But the Freewinds Sea Org staff are more honest and direct and I respect them more for that.
The low price is so once they have the people captive on the ship then they can pull off the ole bait and switch !! And, get more money from them for IAS.
I have absolutely no sympathy or empathy, etc for WHATEVER folks experience on the freewinds. None, zilch, bupkis, zero … capisce? Anyone in Scientology who goes to the ship NOT knowing that they will be regged to high heaven in a “secured” environment is SO brain dead and beyond hope that there is no reason to even include them in a discussion. Yes, of course SOMEONE might be convinced to go for the first time to attend a “cheap” week long seminar. Well, you need to learn sometime, right? (see beginning of Science of Survival on that). But the folks who are “in the game”? Well, you freaking get what you deserve … or maybe I should say you get what you know is coming. Tough shit. Doesn’t bother me if your passport is taken and you’re bled of every cent you have. In fact I think it’s the appropriate flow one for their participation and stupidity. I just checked a very old and dear friend on facebook who disconnected from me when I turned into an SP. He was a really great guy, roommate, co-auditor of mine, colleague, etc. I noticed that he moved from LA to Clearwater. He was on VII last I talked to him in LA three years ago. Well, after forty plus years in Scientology, he knows what’s coming moving into the belly of the beast. Same for those who go to the ship. Responsibility, my former friends, responsibility. The key to every case, right? (yes, Mr. H himself that)
City officials better put extra security on those dolphins. No joke. This is a “church” that infiltrated the U.S. government, framed Paulette Cooper as a terrorist, forced hundreds of young women to kill their unborn babies, etc, etc. This cult won’t think twice about killing a couple of dolphins if its in their interest.
Speaking of fish stories, if Duggan ever goes after Miscavige, he becomes a killer whale.
🙂
so true, that prospect is exhilarating!
Greta
Jaws meets Moby Dick. Film at 11.
Hell Mat, they won’t just kill em. They’ll likely harvest em and serve em up in the basement of the SP building to conserve on food costs! We’re dealing with true sociopaths here.
AS MM says, they are looking for other fish to fry!
Now if JERRY Mathers was appearing …
Scientology Reality TV:
Eddie Haskell: Hello, Mrs. Miscavige. Can David come out to play?
Dave’s Mom: Not until he completes his G.E.D. requirements.
Eddie: Gee whiz, Mrs. Miscavige, I can’t wait that long!!!
“Obviously there is NOTHING wrong with an Aquarium. It just doesn’t fit Miscavige’s plan”
Is that because he wants to hold on to all the whales?
“Yes. He intends to go on drowning himself in Scotch, learn to sidestep state and federal investigators in his John Lobb’s and have one whale of a time.” Office of Specious Affairs
Maybe a Sea Org that is humane to its residents is an embarrassment to him.
The level of abuse this organization is still perpetrating in its death throes is amazing. At this point, I’m starting to think Davey is just trying to get as much cash as possible and ruin as many souls as possible before L.Ron Hubbard’s ghost comes to gobble him up!
And also, whatever poor sots *are* left in Gold’s graphics org have clearly gone color-blind. Orange and blue? Together? Is this supposed to be a business, excuse me, religion, or a football team? Yikes…
None of the above. It’s a brothel with a COB instead of a Madam. There are no customers so they just screw each other over and over.
LOL!
Whoreibble.
“When you move off a point of power, pay all your obligations on the nail, empower all your friends completely and move off with your pockets full of artillery, potential blackmail on every erstwhile rival, unlimited funds in your private account and the addresses of experienced assassins and go live in Bulgravia and bribe the police.”
You can be sure that Davey is making these “ethical” arrangements as we speak, aided by plentiful IAS donations.
Only problem is Dave won’t be able to find Bulgravia on any map.
Methinks the breakwinds be one stinking ship.
And you would be thinkin correctly MM!
I can just imagine the “prosperity” seminar:
1. How to apply for several credit cards in parallel
2. How to scoure the obituaries to set up recently deceased as your loan co-guarantors
3. How to “acquire” your neighbors’ credit information and use their credit line
4. Obtaining false income statements to boost your credit
5. Signing up the mentally challenged, aged and dementia patients as co-signers
6. Getting priorities straight: Who needs the Bridge when real “gains” are made moving up your Status
7. How to get a fourth and fifth job in a lousy economy
8. Setting up your bank account for direct deposit to IAS
9. How to plead a credit crime down to a misdemeanor
10. How to conduct a comm cycle with former friends (PTS) you owe money to
11. Acquiring a third and fourth mortgage
12. Are you still spending money on food, gas and utilities?
13. Enturbulated by being broke? We have a course for that (with an easy payment plan)
BONUS: Credit repair: Getting people you owe money to declared to clear your debt
A Scientology “how to make money” seminar in a nutshell.
“You need to flow money in order to make money.
Start immediately flowing your $ up the bridge.
Flow money to the IAS. Flow, flow, flow, borrow, borrow, borrow.”
There you go, just saved you $1,870.
John P Capitalist has commented a number of times that a lot of COS business practices are based on the assumption that there is infinite demand for Scientology. I take this to mean, for the Freewinds, that there’s an assumption that you can keep on luring people aboard, giving them these horrible experiences on the ship, and never have to think about the consequences, because there’s an inexhaustible supply of people waiting to sign up.
The truth is, of course, that there’s a finite number of Scientologists who can afford the Freewinds experience, and once you’ve tapped out this limited market, it doesn’t magically replenish itself. The smart move — as in any other business — would have been to give the customers a rewarding experience, so as to (1) keep them coming back for more and (2) encourage positive word-of-mouth advertising, which is the very best and cheapest kind. Too late for that now.
People say the COS is destroying itself, and here’s another example.
Exactly!
I don’t get the aquarium objection. Is it that nothing else can be in Clearwater? Flag has to be the biggest thing? An aquarium would bring in too many wogs?
YEP!!!
I’m surprised they don’t try to object to the Salvador Dali museum in St. Pete – but maybe they feel they need something more surreal than their organizational “structure” around!
Word on the street is all about the new Piranha exhibit at the aquarium. Apparently it showcases Dave Foster and Paul Miller in their dress whites doing a reg-a -thon so the cherch want’s to quash it.
I’d pay to see those two in a real Piranha exhibit. Oh shit, just realized I’ve been there and done that excepting I was the bait!
Coop, they don’t want the aquarium because it’s other fish to fry.
LOL. And lots of em. Must be why they are heavy on rice and beans.
If you notice, the 3rd item is “how to handle 3rd party and counter intention to your business” As a business person I have not experienced this problem except this:
The cherch of Scientology has spent $ millions ruining the businesses and families of many, many former members and now they have a reputation that is soooo toxic that not even a hot-dog-stand owner would have anything to do with these Scientology businessmen.
My advice to handle 3rd party: Call yourself a Morman and move on…
My advice to handle 3rd party: Call yourself a Morman and move on…
🙂 🙂 🙂
Is nauseating how all evolves around ‘money’. Of course you, as a blind parishioner, get given a wrong why on all these seminars: “the reason you are not moving up the bridge is your lack of knowledge and expertise to create ‘the energy’ for it’.
Yes of course that is the usual covert invalidation and the evaluation of your WHY. But again, is all about seminars on money and, very likely, promoting the sociopathic leader’s intention for people to “make” money to “give it” to him.
They have reached the 47X expansion of degradation.
While Scientology in Clearwater seems opposed to the aquarium, they did support “high end retail.” Wouldn’t that bring in the “right sort” of people? People who shop at…what’s high end? Tiffany? Prada?
Well, all those people wasting money on overpriced junk instead of the Bridge, right down the street from Scientology premises…they should be taking courses instead.
Could you imagine the city catering to the Scientologists by baiting tourists with high end retail so the cult could pick ’em off with a Free Stress Test?
xb I don’t think they really want “high end retail” there. They just threw that out. What they absolutely don’t want is hundreds or maybe even thousands of people walking past their cult buildings while heading for the Aquarium. They will be looked at by the wogs, AND, some staff might take the opportunity to quickly slip into the crowd and disappear. OCCUPIED CLEARWATER. Fighting the war since 1975…
The cheap seminars are only cheese for the mouse trap.
The big money is what it takes to leave.
Spelled how much does it take to get your passport back!
Yea. I was so DUMB! I had a friend just leave without “approval.” When told with a smirk by the MAA that he had her passport, she got in his face and said, “I don’t care.” God! I love that!
She just took off with the MAA following her. Then when she was about to step off the ship, he threw her her passport. When I asked her what she was going to do if he hadn’t done that, she just said, “I didn’t know.” But she was gone.
@McCarran, having your passport stolen (which is what the MAA was threatening to do) is not nice, but it is not fatal either. Just go to the nearest police station and complain, they will know how to get you home. (I did have my passport stolen while in London, but I was about to return directly to Copenhagen anyway and the only inconvenience was having to report in London and get a temporary return-to-home travel paper at the London Danish embassy – no sweat.)
If you for some reason do not have your passport go to your embassy
and tell the truth.They can give you another passport, even one good for one trip home.
Even the most crazy stories will be accepted as long as it’s the gospel truth.
Not a big deal, they also can give a small loan,interest free.
Airlines go crazy if you have no travel documents.
Yo Dave, a little Bible class for you:
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
Galatians 6:7
Looks like Dave’s headed for some real fun times!
For those of you still feeling the Christmas spirit:
Davey the con man was a very bitter soul,
With a corncob pipe and a turned up nose
And two eyes made out of coal.
Davey the con man is no fairy tale, they say,
He made people blow but the children know
How he met his end one day.
There must have been some magic in
That nice old scotch they found.
For when they poured it on his head
He began to dance around.
O, Davey the con man
Was as jive as he could be,
And the children say he would never play
Just the same as you and me.
Standing ovation, Michael! Outstanding! I am humbled….
Thanks OSD. I channeled it from one of Santa’s elves.
my black felt fedora, sir, is doffed to you. “There must have been some magic in that nice old scotch” made me literally LOL… 😀
Glad I could put a smile on your face phoenyxrose.
As regards the Tampa Bay Times story and the Aquarium, I am gobsmacked.
I just don’t get why the church wouldn’t appreciate the foottraffic, the PR and the appearance of not being dead.
Not to mention the opportunity to body route over a million tourists into the local mission. Of course if they found some lowly wog with a substantial bank account (spelled qualify), you could take them straight in and have a preferential services line in the new SP bldg.
Sure, and if they find an illegal PC among those tourists from the Aquarium (after they’re body routed to Flag or the local Mission), why, then, they could just throw him/her back in!
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Jenny, may I suggest you send your head shot in to John Carpenter for the next Halloween sequel. I think you have a future in show biz babe.
McCarran, here’s an earlier post in which Mike examines the COS position here in glorious detail:
https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-belongs-to-us-wogs-not-welcome/
Thanks Richard. I’m still gobsmacked. (I just like saying that word. 🙂
That’s right McC,
The church’s reluctance to support an attraction, a viable source of income for the town shows that the bottom line is really a Real Estate game. No new people needed whatsoever!
Greta
Jim Mathers is a toady. His soul has been sold. The church uses people until they use them up and then they leave. In Jim Mathers case, my hunch is that he’ll go down with the ship.
They should call the Freewinds the ‘Titanic II’ – so much inflated bs weight that it eventually sinks quickly. You would think with all these mind blowing seminars to make you “wealthy using LRH tech” these past 20-25 years that we should have lots of the Bob Duggans of the world. So lets take the example of the Kool Aid individual who looks wealthy but in debt, so take my ex-friend Richie Acunto who I lived with in Beverly Hills for years; he was a gracious individual and a good guy but he was always juggling debt. He donated heavily plus more than $10M to the IAS Trophy Redemption Cause aka the Three Stooges Award; then his 30 year business went south and LOST EVERYTHING, I MEAN EVERYTHING and filed for bankruptcy. So lets see if you do have money and what happens shall we???. No difference, so prior to the Ideal morgue pgm; I knew personally a former pc at Flag who donated $965,000.00 in services within one year of being a newbie that was on account at Flag, this is separate than the $150K he spent at his local org. So the regges sold him triple SHCBC/OEC-FEBC Courses (plus all sets of tapes of the same courses); and entire bridges for his family. When he came up later an as illegal pc while getting auditing at Flag he was dropped him like a “hot potato” and told to go away per their policy, get training etc etc. When his legal bills hit over $1.5M and needed money (now borderline broke); to continue with his legal scene he sought a repayment of HIS monies on account as he was notified that he was an illegal pc right?; ooooops well when the Church saw the request so the KOT and the Chaplain changed tactics and then said your “NOT AN ILLEGAL PC” anymore but you still cant get services here at Flag but if you persist in asking for your repayment of monies back you will be declared an SP. Oh and I got issued a Non Enturbulation Order for showing him the illegal pc policy. What an hubris ‘mind fuc>’ organization these guys are!!!! They couldn’t care less about what happened to both of these guys!!!!
The individual is nothing; the church is everything.
The opposite is closer to the truth.
McCarran has the real truth nailed. All hail the greatest ecclesiastical leader in the history of Marcab.
Yo Dave,
Hows whats left of it hangin today good buddy?
Miscavige is everything. People not Miscavige are nothing – so they might as well give Miscavige everything. Then they will have nothing as well as be nothing.
Dave does crave you be his slave and hasten you into the grave. Imagine someone that depraved declaring those who misbehave.
Joe – I found out that the “Illegal PC Scam” has been going on forever.
Just talk to members and ex members – you will find that the majority have been “regged” for their Bridge and then deemed an illegal PC and asked to give their “donations for services” to the IAS etc.
The “church” also has everyone sign lawyered up legal contracts designating all money property of the Church. The staff will tell you you are securing your Spiritual Freedom – reality is – you are getting fleeced.
Someone should write a book on the Illegal PC Scam. The Church of Scientology has made millions and it is all carefully kept out of view. I wonder what the FBI and IRS would say if they looked into this neat little criminal act.
They will accept anyone for services. At some point – staff tell the guy/gal they have to go to an advanced Org and FLAG does this the best of any – so ideally – they go to FLAG but I have heard it happening at ASHO And AOLA.
They are asked to pay for the TIP first before they arrive. Of course – makes sense. Would not want the BANK to get in the way of your BANK account.
Next step – sign legal contracts designating your money for services property of the Church. This is the clever little trick so they can keep it forever.
Next step – See the MAA to find O/W’s from 76 million years. The MAA will not allow the PC to have their service unless they donate money – lots of it. (I know – according to LRH, MAA’s are not suppose to be Registrar’s – but that policy never existed at Flag. FLAG has policies you don’t read in the LRH books. I think we all know by now those books are for Religious Cloaking purposes only.
There is always a Guaranteed Fleecing at the Mecca of Technical Extortion – Flag Land Base.
And for maximum enturbulation – they are made to wait, and wait, and wait….and wait…then wait some more.
SOP – extend your trip, take more time off from work, spend more money, lie to your spouse and ARCX your boss and family – all intended to mess you up.
How about a book called – Shenanigans at Flag. I bet Debbie Cook has a few stories.
Google Hy Levy and listen to his You Tube videos about the Fruit Plate wars.
Maria Pia Gardini has a tragic story as to how Debbie Cook was involved where she fleeced her out of millions and was driving a BEEMER the next day. Also, Dave Foster, Registrar at Flag, slapped her because he wanted more money.
Are Harriet and Dave Foster still in?.
“Someone should write a book on the Illegal PC Scam”.
Bingo!
Happened to me at Flag also.
I should have walked then instead of drinking even drinking more Kool-aid.
Illegal PC Scam or a version thereof. I was a “cadillac PC” rocking along in life, business going gangbusters, rocketing up the grades when I gave Flag over $90K. Was told by Barbara Dews all would go smoothly at Flag. WRONG. I was subjected to the “you have the wrong viewpoint” scam and prevented from any services at Flag. Had to threaten legal to get it back. This has happened to LOTS of people. THIS is WHY Flag is a flat out criminal organization. Once they get your money, you are SCREWED. All you under the radar folks get busy and talk to one another, you’ll find this true. Then I suggest you get onboard with the rest of us and shut this con down and put something more ethical in it’s place. Because if you don’t speak up, more of your friends will get screwed over. It’s YOUR 3rd dynamic. Do something.
Top tip: sufficiently well informed threat of lawsuit ought to get the money back. Even in France, where the victims had only been subjected to “regular” regging (I think, check out details on Infinite Complacency, the Jonny Jacobsen blog), all the ex-victims got financial settlements before the lawsuit hit appeal. In spite of the lawyers for the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology pointing out that the word “church” was printed by the door (i.e. therefore the Co$ could not be prosecuted for organised criminal fraud – WRONG!!)
You got a non-enturbulation order because you showed someone a policy letter?!! Geezers…
What a dismal scene that paints on top of that poor guy getting shafted.
Of course they don’t! Que the movie “Jerry McGuire.” SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!
But, Joe, their day of reckoning is coming sooner rather than later.
If you didn’t see my post from the previous day, I went up Pasadena to check on the 47X that’s happening at every single Idle Morgue in the entire world. Well, I’m not sure what’s up with Pasadena. The front door was half open and NO STAFF. Not one. No SO body routers either. Just a little stand with TWTH booklets in different languages with a sign saying, “Take One.” I spent 90 minutes watching for any signs of life. There was none. Now maybe all the staff realized that this is a global scam and were getting shit faced! I don’t know. What I do is, I NEVER saw a staff member on the ground floor and there was no receptionist. Nobody going into the Idle Morgue and zero activity within the Morgue.
Anyone care to comment on why there was absolutely no staff present on the ground floor where all the flat screens are? Obviously there were there…somewhere. But, they never showed their faces.
Take it away posters!
Oh, they’re there in droves OSD, but you obviously can’t see them due to your overts. How about we get you started on your next service. Cash or charge?
Who needs staff when you have flat screens to talk at you. I think that was one of Daves whys; sheeple could not do a good job of informing public so the answer was to make the perfect video and have it dispense the kool aide. You could also sprinkle it with liberal portions of Dave’s shit in a video. He knows that staff would never refer to Him unless their were fears of reprisal so the videos probably have photos/references to Him but I’m guessing here ………..never seen one of those RCS talking screens.
That’s the long answer OSD!
Yes, Sir, Michael. I’m an overt making machine and I’m sorry. Now, being po’ white trailer trash wit page numbers on my toilet paper, I usually barter with goats and chickens. You are good with that medium of exchange?
Oh yeah Joe .. was 30 years in .. and they fund suddenly out that I would be an illegal PC because of a suicide attempt in my youth ,, never happened, but someone wrote a note about .. which was then more true than my own words .. I give your last words: They couldn’t care less about what happened ..
I got a stupid laugh when I said: If I had tried to kill myself, you would not see me now!!!!!!!!!
What you’ll learn: Mass hypnotism to sign up more contacts than you can shake a whole track stick at, using proven implanting techniques based on the fundamental LRH datum of the greatest good for the greatest number – (dynamics, lawsuits, donations, etc.).
What to do:
Contact your local Freefleecing Consultant and;
1) Pay now $1870.00
2) Fill out the consultant form so Jim Mathers can better assist you in getting the full wins and gains from the course. Please include net worth, assets list, current debts, annual income, credit cards with current balances and limits, any relatives (preferrably not declared) and their net worth, bank accounts and balances, anything else you think would help Jim to help you.
3) Arrive and get your blah blah blah and your ‘full Fleecewinds experience’. This starts with a visit to the wonderful IAS office of Teddy Braggen who will start you out on how you can help across all of the dynamics by first cleaning your slate by turning over any and all useless spare change found in the initial review of your consultant form. He will explain how Jim, through the magic of applying LRH Fraud Tech II, will be able to extend your credit limits beyond your wildest dreams.
4) Attend the rest of the experience and have your truth revealed: the only reason you have financial problems is because you have undisclosed crimes. You need to use some of that wonderful new credit expansion on yourself first because by getting yourself in the best shape possible you can now tame those barking dogs. Please extend your stay and the C/S recommends a four intensive package of sec checking to get you really winning in life.
5) Visit the MAA to get your approval to leave the fleecing. He/she/it also has your passport and after receiving your success story will help you to revise your life ( I mean plans) and help you with travel arrangements.
6) Return to your Local Ideal Morgue, get on the OT committee and arrange to have an event to tell others of your wins and gains.
7) File for bankruptcy and ask to sign your billion year contract and start your project prepare.
8) Make arrangements for your medical exam. Pay special attention to signs of chafing and superficial wounds around all orifices. Apply for medicaid as required to handle whatever is left (I mean found). Go to the bookstore and ask for the Special Cee Ogre Salve which has been specially formulated to work for those with similar orificial problems. Dave uses it daily.
I think I had better end off here!
I don’t think I’ve ever seen it laid out so accurately! I’m laughing and happy I don’t have to put up with that bullshit anymore!
I’ve been shopping for a new audio system recently, and it occurred to me that for the price of a new Warehouse SuperDuper Mk VIII meter and the requisite second one for backup, I can get one hell (or, dare I say, Whale) of a high-end stereo that I can enjoy some wonderful music with.
And because of all the money I’ve saved by NOT bending over for the IAS, SP Cornerstone, LRH Hall, Her Royal Governess and her stupid Valley Org, and of course all the Ideal Org Alliances, and, oh, yeah, training (almost forgot about that!), I don’t need my credit limits raised. In fact, I’ll write a check for it!
LOL! Coop, you can be lucky that this is digital, paper might have burst into flames….:)
Greta