*drama portraying the futility of human struggle in a senseless world
Scientology truly plays out like the Theater of the Absurd.
This is the latest “news” from St. Louis.
Good news, St Louis IS going “ideal.” How do we know? Well, because they are an “unrelenting juggernaut” of course. 15 years on and they are are a juggernaut that has accomplished absolutely nothing. But as always, it’s coming in the future…
The only things they have to report are that there are 55 OTHER empty “ideal orgs” that total 5.8 million square feet of nothing.
But hold on, those 55 other ideal orgs are making one clear every 90 minutes. Work that out and those ideal orgs (and the 80 or so “other” orgs) are producing on average, a Clear every 550 days.
And let’s not forget, there are 15,000 people born and 6,300 who die every hour. A net gain of 8,300.
So, in the time each Clear is made, there are 12,500 new non-Clears on planet earth.
Now that is something to get excited about.
Not a single Clear has been made in recent memory in the juggernaut St. Louis. And the same person who completed Level 1 also completed Level 4. Which tells u this is likely a list of EVERY completion in the last 6 months (maybe a lot more).
But one guy increased his gross income by 2.6X. So that is encouraging on the fundraising front. You can get the regges were all over that.
This is yet another reflection of the true state of scientology orgs.
Small. Failing. Miserable.
But hey, they are “going ideal” — what could be better?
To the question:“Hey, I’m already clear, have been since last lifetime so where do I start on the bridge?”
The answer, of course is at the very bottom, so they can extract the maximum amout from him THIS lifetime.
speaking of Ideal and St Hill size, is St Hill even St hill sized any more?
” So, in the time each Clear is made, there are 12,500 new non-Clears on planet earth.”
Yea Mike but Clive said that all of those new bodies would be operated by cleared thetans pouring off all of those Oh Teas who were auditing on solo nots since His great revelation of GAG I.
The cleared Bee Tees would race off and find the next available body and jump in. Then when they were old enough (say at age 6 or 7!) they would recognize the truth and join the See Ogre or walk into the new Idle Morgue and join staff. And that is how $cientology would win the game of clearing the planet.
So let’s see here …………..imagine a young person (lets just call em a body) …. so this body walks into say Pasedena Org and says “Hey, I’m already clear, have been since last lifetime so where do I start on the bridge?” (I can only imagine the back line discussions from C/Ses and staff!)
Yo Dave,
Whadayagonnado for the new body good buddy? Why not have em hang around and work for nothing until you can get yer Oh Tea Niner fired up. Oh, I forgot, that is what you are doing. What about verifying their clear status? Do you have a GAG II process for that? How many have you found Dave, geesch, with all of the millions and gazillions of fresh clear Bee Tees that Clive has been banging out since the turn of the century surely you have found ONE.
Yo Ron,
You had better get your scrawny ass back here in a hurry. This place is going to shit!
“…(lets just call em a body)…” I think you mean bank account instead of body.
Havingness? Is that a real word?
…..off to look it up!
Havingness: the concept of being able to reach for money through intermediaries and channel it to your personal bank account. Example: COB’s got a lot of havingness.
No, Havingness is a made-up word from Tubby, when he couldn’t be bothered to find a perfectly good English word for a concept he’d just come across.
The vet receiving the award for his IAS donations has an ordinary vet practice and also claims to be an active participant in his local Protestant church. Does he know that, according to LRH, Jesus is an implant?
I googled “Scientology in Mo”, wondering if there was one in Springfield. Springfield is the big, country/western belt buckle of the Bible Belt, home of 2 AG colleges, and 1 Protestant. Home of the Gospel Publishing House, and the auditorium that could house a crowd when they have their special faith healer guests.
The answer is no. But I did find an old blog from a St Louis lady, giving all the reasons she and her family left COS. The reasons were the same as everywhere else, working for nothing, being constantly pressured for more $$.
There is one in Kansas City…in a “bad” area on super busy street off Main St.
St. Louis is one of the interesting cases of smaller orgs that a decade or more ago managed to buy a historic building to renovate as an “ideal” org, that they apparently now have no ability to complete. They bought theirs in 2007 at the height of the real estate and financial bubble, which seems to have been a typical point when members felt well-off and could be regged into cashing out retirements and mortgaging properties. In some of the places like St. Louis, property values were low – because the cities are not exactly thriving – and so the buildings were comparatively inexpensive, perhaps making it possible to pull off the purchase by relying on a few large donations; but the cost of renovations is still high, and apparently well beyond their current fundraising capability.
I tried to find information about the Missouri org, and there is almost nothing available – probably because they are so small. Their Facebook presence is minimal and outdated, and there don’t seem to be any pictures showing more than 20-25 members, which seems to about match the number of individual names in the completions lists. I found that one ex-member noted that there were never more than 8 people at Sunday services.
Either more of these orgs are going to do what a few like Boston have done and give up on their historic properties in favor of buying outlying modern office buildings that are cheaper to renovate, or Miscavige is going to have to prioritize putting money into some of the locations in the least promising areas to avoid having deteriorating buildings turn into real PR and legal problems.
Needless to say, if anyone has any detailed information about the St. Louis org, it would be very interesting to see.
Here is a link I found in City of St Louis – the Ideal Morgue Address & Property Search
New Search
The address 2345 Lafayette found 2 record(s).
parcelId Address Owner Name
21390002200 2343 – 2345 LAFAYETTE AV CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF MISSOURI
21390002200 2345 LAFAYETTE AV CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF MISSOURI
Address & Property Search
New Search
The address 2345 Lafayette found 2 record(s).
parcelId Address Owner Name
21390002200 2343 – 2345 LAFAYETTE AV CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF MISSOURI
21390002200 2345 LAFAYETTE AV CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF MISSOURI
{{{{{{{{{{SALE INFORMATION}}}}}}}}}
03/15/2007 $1,600,000.00
06/16/2006 $800,000.00
FOR ONE PROPERTY – The cult is paying about $50,000 real estate taxes x 10 years = $500,000 on WASTED parishoner’s funds…letting a building sit vacant whilst they fleece the sheep dry….
Tax Year Special Business District Tax Lateral Sewer Fee Commercial Surtax Total Original Tax Amount Paid Balance Date Posted
2016 $0.00 $0.00 $8,815.00 $53,867.18 $53,867.18 $0.00 12/21/2016
2015 $0.00 $0.00 $8,815.00 $49,610.18 $49,610.18 $0.00 12/21/2015
2014 $0.00 $0.00 $8,593.60 $48,339.00 $48,339.00 $0.00 12/11/2014
They have another property next door that they pay taxes on too!
Wow –
Building Permits Records
Data provided by Building Permits Section
8 records Owner Name Permit Type Application Date Completion Date Issued Date New Use Estimated Costs Description
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF MISSOURI Building 12/13/2016 12/13/2016 CHURCH $200,000.00 EXT. ALT. (REPLACE FRONT STEPS) PER PLANS
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF MISSOURI Electrical 03/01/2012 07/18/2012 03/01/2012 $500.00
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF MISSOURI Electrical 08/24/2010 07/28/2011 08/24/2010 AV $30,000.00 Church of Scietology
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF MISSOURI Building 08/02/2010 09/02/2011 08/02/2010 CHURCH $910,000.00 INTERIOR & EXTERIOR ALTERATIONS (PER PLANS)
Idle Morgue, thanks for looking all that up.
Scientology paid about double what someone had bought the building for just the year before, and also a similar markup on a parking lot next door as well, at the peak of the real estate bubble. I don’t know why they thought they had to buy just then, when they didn’t even have the funds for the renovation, but of course if they’d waited another year or two they could have bought the properties for much less.
They are racking up all these expenses on an unused property when, presumably, they can’t pay the staff decently, if at all – or, typically, even buy toilet paper. Some of these “idle” org projects have apparently further weakened the orgs, both because of dissension over the original fundraising for the purchase, and then due to the expensive burden of the unused property and the endless fundraising for renovations.
If you post your email here – I will connect you to a person who is UTR that knows a lot more – they told me where to find this information. They don’t post on the net but they will communicate via Email. They are very concerned because they have family in…very delicate sitch.
I don’t believe that any other scam, anywhere, at any time in history, has ever equaled the scope of the scam that Miscavige has been pulling for the past 30 years on his sheeple. Because it entails far, far more than just swindling people out of money.
Yes, it’s bad, but there are far worse. The FLDS for example. Being told what to think, say, do and believe is appealing to some people. Especially if it carries with it a guarantee of being a part of a group that sees itself superior to the rest of humanity. Ironically, those very same people see the rest of us as being blind, lost, controlled by chaotic worldly forces, and see themselves as the ones who are free beings that have chosen to follow a special and elite path. DM has pulled some really awful tricks to get people’s money, time, loyalty and even children into the SO. But, that pales in comparison to getting woman to offer up their 11 and 12 year old daughters to a pseudo prophet pedophile. I’m not defending him or what he does, just getting a bit of perspective.
So far as we know.. but doesn’t Elron and McSavage’s Cherch have the rep of handling such issues “internally”? Im gonna guess that many cases within COS have gone unreported.
Exemplaryangel said:”But, that pales in comparison to getting woman to offer up their 11 and 12 year old daughters to a pseudo prophet pedophile.”
Hey! Are you accusing the demented midget of pedophilia, or even statutory rape?? That’s completely new to me. I’ve not seen anything to indicate that, unless “his assistant, Lou, is under-aged.
No evidence… but Jan Eastgate got out of a serious court case with some pretty damning allegations made concerning her covering up matters similar to what you are talking about. I knew Jan… and she’s full of crap – trust me on that. In her heyday in ANZO her shit didn’t stink and she was “the stable datum” in the OSA office where her CCHR operations ran from. She advised on and stuck her nose in lots of low life matters behind closed doors.
He takes away everyone’s dignity.
Very true, Aqua. Great way of phrasing the thought many know to be true. The subversion. Very visible examples are the removal of the SHSBC and the OEC volumes. Not to mention all the changes to the Bridge since 1976. Goodness knows what sessions are like. A lot of food for careful thought in what you said.
E.g. It sometimes would appear easier to be evil, than to be good, easier to pander to the reactive mind than to try to tell the truth. But the rewards for goodness and truth are much greater than anything elsewhere, and there you get into the religious themes which seem to be common to all great religions, that spiritual values are far above the material. I think the point there is not to disdain the material and reject it, but to accomplish it through good products.
And I’ve g-o-t to pound the table in admin scales! They can be used to debug activities, and to spot illogical activities. The more one integrates one’s actual functioning admin scales, the more things make sense and the more direction one gains. The illogical ones drop off and the buggy ones get debugged. Cause and effect becomes more clear, easier to see and work with. E.g. Why buy a bigger place when the one you have already has a room basically unused? Why is a big enough desk always cluttered? Funny ones too, like: why does my parrot swear?
So they need a 20 million dollar building to house the 5 or 6 students in their academy and the 5 or 6 preclears in their HGC?
Honestly, I really feel sorry for them.
Hickory Dickory Dock
Is seems Davy broke the clock
The clock fell down and broke Davy’s crown
Now he’s just like us.
Hickory, dickory, dock,
Dave done lost his flock
The clock struck one,
His time will come
Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock
What does “havingness” mean? Thank you
Most of Hubbard’s ramblings are concerned with defining it. It’s simply what YOU can HAVE – it’s the noun version of having something/anything that appeals to you. Individually it’s possible to define your unique self with what you consider “havingness.” Enforced havingness generally, but not always involves itself with the darkside of life. You don’t let a 3 year old “have” razor blades.
Of course organizationally Scientology reversed it all and demands your havingness is THEIRS!
Don’t think too hard about it.
The “spiritual” definition according to yourdictionary.com is “The self-affirming belief that one has certain positive qualities.” I wasn’t aware that this was a real, non-Scientology word myself.
According to xenu.net, in Scientologese……..Havingness, a feeling of ownership or possession; something quite unfamiliar to SO (Sea Org) members. “Pete had such Havingness after he bought his Tech Dictionary.” See beingness.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/dictionary/
Apparently it’s yet another word that has been stolen/redefined/fabricated by LRH.
You mean like Democrats stole the word democracy, and Republicans stole the word republic? By you, every word is stolen from either Latin or Greek or Arabic or some other language. Just like I’ve just stolen every single word I’ve written – and so did you.
Good point – contesting ownership, hence legitimacy or originality is one of the better justifications to fall back on when you have an opposing agenda without having to look too closely.
NIckname, you are right, and you know why I know? Because your comment just has that ring of “truthiness” to it.
(Sarcasm alert on or off, depending on what turns your crank).
If you have to ask, you don’t have any…
Is that why some kids & people for that matter, spit the dummy?
“…spit the dummy?” That’s a new one for me. What does that mean?
BAWWWWWWWWW!!!!!! To not get their way or what they want. Out goes the dummy, pacifier – spat on the ground and here come the screams. You know… like if Miscavige doesn’t have his eggs turned over real easy just as he likes them = he goes berserk or someone gave his BFF a bad shrimp or something like that. Tantrum is a synonym.
When his dad’s book came out, Dave shit the dummy.
Spit out a pacifier.
“he spit the dummy out the pram” = “spit the pacifier out of the baby carriage” = an adult throwing a hissy fit
“Havingness”, is when you, for instance, make a baby be quiet for a few moments by giving it a pacifier to suck on. It refers to a sense of satisfaction from having something.
A beer does the same thing for me, but a six pack – now we’re on the way to some real havingness! A case and I’m anyone’s havingness!
“Havingness” is better than “wantingness”, therefore as the old saying goes: “A beer in the hand is worth wanting two Busch.” (sorryness)
(acceptingness)
Cob-lessness.
Penniless…….as in what happens to members of CO$
I’ve got 3 cases Stella, I Yawn. Your place or mine? I’ve got munchies too. Now that’s havingness! Big time havingness…
OK I’ve got some whisky & other stuff, plus I’ll put $100 in the kitty and let’s hit the supermarket, crisps and/or sweet stuff, let’s get it all. Beach party would be good, I can sure have one of those. Bring your guitar and… just like the old days but apostates only. Don’t want no stinking teetotalers ripping the havingness off.
At one time it was something like, the concept of being able to reach, “Look around the room and tell me something you could have”. This was meant to re-ground a person in present time and to expand their space. Havingness and ownership are not the same thing. It has also been used to indicate a state of completion or satisfactions, “that icecream cone really boosted my havingness”. In theory, auditing removes a part of the reactive mind, running a havingess process replaces the void left with something safe and non-abberative.
This is not a statement of belief, but a recollection of what i learned back in the day
Yeah, like mock up an orange etc and shove it into the body – havingness processes run way back in the technology.
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The play focuses on a young red headed boy who was born 27 years after the famous Messiah L. Ron Hubbard shed his last body, and has made it known to the world that he has, indeed, RETURNED!!!
How will current COB and his faithful eight deal with the news? Do they embrace the youngster and welcome him home? Do they follow his new teachings and revelations? Do they disbelieve the claims, but try to use the boy for their own purposes? Do they believe the claims and make secret plans to have him destroyed utterly?
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if there is anything to reincarnation, overt-motivator or karma, LRH will probably return a a poor, gay black woman.
He should be so lucky!
LRH’s name, and David Miscavige’s name, are recorded in history. I would not change my place with either of them, for history will judge both of them mercilessly. We should pity LRH and DM.
I wouldn’t want to change my place with Tom Cruise either. Yuck.
New OT VII for a new Scientology:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlGXDy5xFlw
Dr. Mobley turns out to actually be a veterinarian. Though Scientology managed to attract a few real scientists and health professionals early on, it is much too unscientific, and based on notions about mental health that are increasingly dated or even proven false, to attract medical doctors or other highly trained professionals in human health and life sciences.
As for production of clears, I think that I did some calculations a while back about how many of Scientology’s clears were likely dying off every year – with their aging demographic, they’re quite possibly losing more than they’re making, at this point. That points to one of the embarrassing underlying problems with Scientology’s claims and promises not working out, that Hubbard’s prediction about members reincarnating and returning to the orgs, is not proving true. They attempted to produce some proof of that around 1980 with supposed “past life clears,” and that went very badly. By now, they should be able to staff the ideal orgs with highly-trained previous-life Scientologists – but that’s not working out for them.
The mathematics of Scientology is astounding! They range from a static composed of ‘zipitti a do dah’ with nothing to show & tell from any location at anytime except a ‘wish,’ to the real definition of ZERO which they show you just how effective it is on your bank account. They work very hard at decreasing your family’s numbers to a more manageable binary system – zero and one.
And it’s all live folks, at an org near you, Somewhere at sometime, someone once said – “let the punishment fit the crime.” Add Scientology’s crime to that equation and I have no idea what would be appropriate for Miscavige, maybe there’s room for two in Xenu’s mountain trap while we figure it out.
To paraphrase Thelma and Louise re Fearless Leader: “Looks like you got a real fucked-up idea of help.”
Yep – that’s a pretty good Scientology analogy of his low-ness’s mental aspirations.
What…are we talkin’ the dwarf here?
This actually reminds me of when I was in college in the ’70s. I had a theater class where I was studying to be a director. I was directing Edward Albee’s “The Sandbox” I did not understand Theater of the Absurd. People were laughing at my play and it hurt my feelings, I thought it was a serious play (ok wow, I was really young, give me a break). Reading the play now, I get it.
Scientologists are being told day to day that their “agonized future” is dependent on their choices. Truly absurd and truly sad. They cannot understand why people are laughing when their entire life is a day-to-day theater of the absurd.
As a former actor, I feel your pain, Valerie. You were probably too young to think about this, but, I would have slapped the shit out of those who laughed at you!
One of them was my teacher, and I did give him a dirty look. He talked to me about it afterwards and explained theater of the absurd. He was a very kind man.
Without decades of life experience, some things for young minds are hard to understand. The human brain isn’t even fully developed until around age 25. In one college class there as talk of the state of “being”……
most students ages 18+ simply thought HUH????…..WTF????
You know, weird as it may seen bit I see that same stunned look of incredulous bewilderment when a trout takes an artificial fly. It hasn’t a clue why it’s trouble, yet there is no avoiding the situation. It’s no fun being fooled is putting it mildly, no matter where you are in life’s scheme of things.
On an honest note, I’ve sort of EP’d flyfishing – when I do it I practice catch and release almost exclusively except the wife does demand the occasional pan sized fried fish for dinner with fresh garden salad with fluffy mash or fries. But even with that I enjoy the scenery and observing life going about its business of living more than intervening by inflicting my version of entertainment on some poor creatures struggle to live. Age does strange things to one’s appreciations I suppose.
Same sort of thing with Scientology, it fools you! It didn’t have to be that way, which I suppose is exactly what trout think of too before their lights go out.
Valerie, your comment is so perfect. Those “in” do not realize how absurd it is until they get out, or wisen up, or both.
I read the title as “Moving from Milestone to Millstone” which seems accurate.
But, the Milestones never, ever stop. Once you’re done with one Milestone, 100 more are waiting for you.
There’s always one to stub your toe on hey?
Always…never ending.
Once you call yourself a scientologist, and their hooks are into you, you have to accept that you have an immense boat anchor attached to your body (much like a body-thetan, heh).
As soon as you abandon scientology, it’s like an immense weight is taken off your shoulders. And freedom tastes wonderful.
Just read the promo piece … do they still do word clearing in St. Louis?
Word clearing is now a crime…
Why is it a crime now?
If your name is on this list multiple time (Elizabeth ‘Liz’ Bashore…..nice try Co$) all I can say is:
You got jacked.
There are so many ways you could be helping this world, if that is your intent. Giving your money, your time, and possibly more to this destructive organization isn’t helping anyone except David Miscavige. Get out of a Scientology course room, keep your money in your pocket and step out into the world and look around. You are needed far more elsewhere. There are organizations around the world that could use your help every single day.
Hope everyone around here is having a great week. ❤️
Hey NOLAGirl! Long time no see! Great post!
Wow! I recognize about 90% of those last names and about 50% of the people themselves. Many are redoing basic Div 6 courses after being in for 40 years. Or more.
Maybe its a misunderstood. A “thetan” is supposed to be a static, NOT an Org.
When I was in an acquaintance told me, “I saw your name on the list of OT completions for OT V in the recent church magazine.” I said, yes I did that, but I comped 8 months ago. So apparently they save up names for 6 months to a year and then keep printing them as completions as though it happened yesterday. Also you’ll see the same name several times for many things such as “Level 0” comp and “Level IV” comp even though this may have taken the person 6 to 8 months to do. It’s called padding the list.
Cindy that means that list is probably “padded” from over a period of years. LOL
Mike, don’t they have to do the, Purif, Student Hat & the SRD, over & over again until say,”I know this now.” Which, if I have this right, means they only have to go through all 3 courses 10 more times?
It all goes back to that handy jim dandy datum of Ron’s: Number of times over the material equals certainty and results.
I’m certain of my results, as I walked out of the org in ’82.
You didn’t run?
ROTFLMAO! Whew, great post, MM! Now that’s some funny shit!
OSD, you just described Hell better than did Dante…
LOL! Thanks! I really needed to laugh today! I can always count on you to supply it…
This Theater of the Absurd’s main production is Much Ado About Nothing.
“No Exit”, “Rhinoceros” and “Waiting for Godot” are some of the classics in the “Theatre of the Absurd” genre. Eugene Ionesco.
Shakespeare was far too human to tolerate the extremes of Scientology. Pathos, high drama, humanity stretched to the breaking point, you find these in Shakespeare but not the day to day inanity, the enthronement of the trivial, the kafka-esque absurdity of the quest for the iDeal Org.
Maybe “The Myth of Sysiphus”, Albert Camus. Dramatic reading. Beetles “Helter Skelter” in the background.
I know, but the title seems apropros.
Is apropos someone who turned pro twice?
You need to get on a Blown Student Routing Form to clear your misunderstood. Please confirm that you’re coming into the Org before Thursday at 2 pm so we can count you as a stat this week. We’re going Saint Hill size!!!
I’m standing outside PAC base & they won’t let me in. Something about talking about OT 3…
Sounds like Cluster’s Last Stand.
Plus, it may be just what lil davey needs to keep it “straight up and vertical,” but the rest of us are tired to death of seeing his enthralled minions “writhe at his feet in a frenzy of self-abasement”…that shit gets old quick!
“Straight up and vertical.”
Taken from their Redundant Department of Redundancy
What else would they say, Straight down & horizonal. Oh wait…that’s exactly what they’re doing! Keep up the great work…
Scientology, the Viagra of religious nonsense.
The Condom of Churches whereby members are surrounded by a non-transparent membrane to protect them from being influenced by the voices of reason trying to break through the walls of resistance and intolerance.
I Yawn & MM, you better not ever leave this blog. You guys are way funny!