WTF does this mean?
A random chandelier has some significance?
Oh I Get It
It’s time to put a stronghold on the MidWest (with one, still not ideal org, let alone St. Hill size, for 10 states)…
Bubbles Branches Out
She has made the transition from selling rugs to the “seminar” commissions business.
They Got One
A single recruit into the Sea Org in Canada is worth sending out a promotional flier about. Wow.
The ChanMan is busy
Delivering his “body talk”?? And his history lesson (clams on the seashore, Piltdown man?)
It’s amazing he can make money doing this…
More bs
Instead of wallowing in this foolishness, spend some time reading Russell Miller’s excellently researched biography of Hubbard.
Get Inspired
This place was supposed to have opened a decade ago…
But it’s time to get inspired all over again. They still want your money.
I am a scientologist…
And it is embarrassing as hell these days…
Be a tiger…
By giving us your money.
Somehow this is appropriate. Those tigers were killed by the guys with the regges gladiators you know.
Sad scene
This one team has been trying in vain to get this done for a decade. You know they bought this building back in the early 2000’s?
And why does this place look so much like the county jail?
24 spots available…
That’s a new one. The “mystery sandwich” no longer works, so now they are trying the “scarcity button”…
Can you imagine them turning anyone away? They will be lucky to have 5 attendees.
It’s monumental, must-see
Miscavige has been milking the SuMP for two years. Now he is going to milk it again. Tell everyone how amazing it is that the thing that was promised in exchange for your donations two years ago is now going to happen after two more years of raking in the cash.
THIS door…
I suppose someone knows where this door is?
Orlando is happening!
Woohoo. It’s on the line-up for another Miscavige ribbon yanking video extravaganza. The 10 scientologists in Orlando should be thrilled. They were let off the hook on fundraising. And Flag is doing their CF. Some Sea Org people will be sent there to man the org for the opening. A what do you know, an “ideal org”.
Another one “on the schedule”
There HAS to be stuff to show at the events.
Hey guys….
Why bother? You don’t need to fundraise any more. It will just be paid for.
Find out how to be ready…
The expansion is coming. It’s always “coming”. Never actually here.
Just because…
Talk about crazy.
This is of course the most on-purpose road trip ever! In history. For eternity.
Ideal just got real?
How? From Britain’s Got Talent? Sports?
Huh?
Something big…
…is always ABOUT to happen.
Always a great reason to join staff.
It’s getting real here too…
So real.
These people are sitting in an empty 80,000 sq ft building with an empty parking lot. And they are vying to be the fastest expanding org on earth.
You don’t have to do what your bank says…
Say what? That is NOT what Dianetics says.
Stupidest Whales Ever?
You know it’s already funded right?
Word from the Moneywinds
It’s now “your humanitarian Ship” Gag.
You had better go along, Sharron is “expecting” you to attend.
How this woman is still running the most consistently failed org in the history of scientology is amazing.
Kemist says
Wow, they recruited a SO victim in my city.
Is the “Estates Manager” the dude or dudette who responsible for defaulting on utilities payments ?
Here electricity is sold by a state-owned company, and they can’t, by law, cut you off in the winter.
I wonder how much of a bill the Quebec City Idle Morgue has stacked up with Hydro Quebec.
whatareyourcrimes says
Hey, how did the Thursday stats look, scientologists?
Only you know the truth.
Hnnng says
You … YOU GUYS CAN CHANGE TIME?
Alcoboy says
Why does the KC org building look like the city jail?
The sign on the facade says it used to be a bank.
Both ideas explain the bars on the windows.
Kronomex says
“License to Build”? The utter childish crap they churn out never ceases to amaze me.
Chan – that should read “A Wallet-Opening Presentation.”
Perth – No comment!
Roaring 20’ies – “20’ies”…uh…er…
As for the rest of the fliers, the usual giant SSIIGGHH…
NN Grad says
The SO members are really out of cause or in a sticky introverted valence to just follow orders?
They are requesting a public to drive a truck full of folders and that include its own pocket money for the Uhaul rent, some gas, refreshments and lunch.
Or maybe they does not have an aprooved 100 bucks CSW to be handled by themselves
What a DEV-T but funny because this oportunities are kind of unique
But I dreamed on someone that will show up there with the 100 bucks and place that preetty ammount of folders in Tony Ortega´s office followed by a 2 or 3 SO members leaving the cult that day
I will donate the 100 needed for this vital mission
Very cheap for a really great job
John P. Capitalist says
I found the Birthday Game between LA, Tampa and Denmark to be pretty interesting. The org with the largest concentration of SCientologists in the world should be able to mop the floor with Tampa and Denmark. The population of the Tampa metro area is around 4 million versus 27 million in LA. Denmark has 5.7 million people, slightly more than half of the population of Los Angeles County, and not even 1/4 of the LA metro area. The fact that Valley is apparently only slightly beating these two guys makes LA sound like hapless nitwits. It shouldn’t be a close game. It should be more like USC playing Sacred Heart Catholic Prep in football.
whatareyourcrimes says
The L.A. population has been exposed to A&E’s Aftermath, while the population of Denmark may not even be aware of it.
As for Tampa, who knows.
Ms. B. Haven says
The thing that stands out for me this week is the dissemination poster. I can say from personal experience that dissemination has ALWAYS been avoided by the majority of scientologists, even back in the day when it was ‘fun to be a scientologist’. I remember that one of the checksheet items for the HQS course included doing some sort of actual dissemination, not just dissemination drills. In theory, this would have brought in at least one person for everyone graduating from the HQS course. That didn’t happen back then and it sure as hell ain’t happenin’ now. As John P. is fond of saying, the scientology brand is about as toxic as ebola coated kiddy porn. Good luck with Dissemination Boot Camp. I’d bet dollars to dog shit that they will be damn lucky to fill only 2 of the ONLY 24 slots available. Maybe the field should be sec checked to see why they aren’t getting with the program and filling the new idle orgs.
Richard says
I remember doing that course in the mid 1970s in LA but I couldn’t remember the name of it. HQS=Hubbard Qualified Scientologist. An item on the checksheet was bringing at least one person to an introductory lecture.
ASHO (American Saint Hill Organization) was located in the low income Alvarado section of LA. ASHO would send out a mini bus to recruit people which wasn’t that difficult since people were more trusting and curious back then. The “ruin” drill was in use, ask a person what’s ruining their life and tell them scn could handle it.
I guess I had recruited someone since I recall attending an intro lecture with about a dozen people. The lecturer was talking about “mental pictures”. He asked the people in the room to close our eyes and imagine a building, either a real building or an imaginary one, and when he said so open our eyes and put the “picture” of the building somewhere in the room. He correctly identified 4 or 5 buildings, their general features and where the pictures had been placed.
Richard says
I don’t recommend scn as a path to follow but I don’t deny that some people have special abilities, however you want to label or classify it.
Richard says
Hey – This was The Dawning of the Age of Aquarius. I was in LA for training and never participated in the mini bus detail. I guess they went to a better part of town and chatted with people lounging in a park or something. A lot of people would be interested enough and willing to take a one hour round trip to see what it was all about.
For the checksheet I guess it didn’t matter if you used the ruin drill or batted your eyelashes at someone as long as you got a body in the shop – haha
Richard says
I wasn’t much for proselytizing but one time I decided to chat with a Hare Krisna dude who was marching around on a street in LA to see if scn made any sense to him. He was somewhat famiar with scn and we had a pleasant chat but neither one of us was convivinced we should change direction.
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
I glitched and read that as Ebola-coated Kandy Korn (NObody likes Kandy Korn! giving it out to the kids at Halloween is likely to earn you a TPing. I once knew someone who professed to like the stuff…. And she had other nasty habits.)
KiwiGal says
Yes, they buggered up the Bond reference and the 20’ies did indeed make my eye twitch.
I want to know about the “British” invitation – there is no phone number, no email, no RSVP and no venue… It could literally be anywhere?
I bet JAW would know – I should tweet him and find out. If SuMP are filming, surely they need HIGHEST EVERS in attendance? 😀
Dave F. says
Everybody . . . Please PRAY that THIS happens SOON . . . The “DRUMS ARE BEATING” ! ! !
Trump Looking to Revoke Religious Tax Exemptions, Say Inside Sources
https://constitution.com/trump-looking-revoke-religious-tax-exemptions-say-inside-sources
Go, Trump, GO ! ! !
Dave F.
Mike Rinder says
This is old news. And dubious when it was first reported and not a peep since.
whatareyourcrimes says
Gee, if the Donald Trump revoked tax exemption for religions, he may actually go down in history as one of the best presidents ever.
Do it Mr. Trump. The world looks to you for leadership!
Aquamarine says
Be assured that “The world” is NOT looking to THIS President for “leadership” Bluster and bluff and self-puffery do not a leader make. Count us all lucky if his “my button is bigger than yours” game of nuclear chicken with Rocket Man doesn’t start World War III.
Richard says
I’m not a member of the Resist movement but he does shoot some footbullets. Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters heading the House of Representatives is not my ideal scene. Not trying to start a political debate – just a comment on a blog – lol
Aquamarine says
No worries, Richard. I come from a very long line of Republicans. Growing up I was surrounded. I know them, like them, understand them and I even vote for them sometimes 🙂 My father was a Goldwater Republican. Appearances to the contrary, my antipathy to the man who is our current president is not political. And I’m not a member of the Resist either. Whatever that is. I don’t believe in that kind of nonsense. I believe in our civilized system. Somebody was voted in. Don’t like him or her? Vote him out! Civilized behavior is very effective.
Aquamarine says
PS: Reagan famously said, “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party; it left me”. That’s the way I feel about the new GOP. Its almost unrecognizable. I can’t relate!
Wynski says
Aqua, BOTH parties are unrecognizable. If JFK were to run on his platforms today, Democrats would call for his assassination.
Stick with Libertarian type people. that is the closest to the philosophy that this country was founded upon.
Aquamarine says
Yes, Wynski, you’re right on the money. Politics today is the War of the Wingnuts with those of us who believe in personal responsibility while yet willing to pay some taxes so that people who need a helping hand can get it and at the same time NOT willing to have the planet’s air, soil and water further unnecessarily polluted – having no place at the table. I hear you on Libertarianism, but at this point I consider the current administration as one would a toxic waste spill; it can’t be cleaned up, it can only be contained. Accordingly, for the next few years I’ll be voting for every Democrat that running for office breathes, no matter how much they’re going to tax me, no matter how ridiculously they push for government to pay for EVERYTHING, I’ll be voting for them for one purpose only, to CONTAIN the current occupant of the Oval Office, to limit the damage he can do with his big fat mouth and his little fat fingers..
Richard says
Years ago I purchased a pricey book referred to as a “Manuscript” called *The Neo-Tech Discovery*. Somewhat similar to Hubbardology, the author, Frank R Wallace spoke about civilizations thousands or many thousands of years advanced over earth civilization. In order to survive that long they had to get past the “Nuclear Threshhold” the point where a civilization discovers nuclear fusion and blows itself up – or not!
Eventually booksales dried up and Wallace came up with “Zons”, beings Millions of years advanced over humans and who are now monkeying around with earth civilization – something like that – I didn’t follow it that far.
I think some Neo-Tech followers are still around calling it Nouveau Tech, yet another New Age cult/philosophy.
Richard says
Here’s a reference if anyone is curious. Neo-Tech was presented as Objectivism but obviously it wasn’t. It was still an interesting study to me.
http://rebirthofreason.com/Articles/Setzer/From_Objectivism_to_Neo-Tech_and_Back.shtml
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
I don’t worry about “rocket man” and WWIII. That regime’s grasp of ACTUAL science and technology is on par with Scientology’s.
Wynski says
Trump has no such power whatareyourcrimes. He’s a PotUS. You are perhaps thinking of Congress?
Aquamarine says
One Midwest Ideal Org. Ten states. Seriously.
Well, I’m sorry, but I can’t be serious because this is an example of cult delusion beyond anything heretofore expected. Highest ever!
Its like that John Wayne movie (or somebody’s joke) where he’s a western frontiersman or something riding on the range easy and slow like, and all of a sudden some dude rides up to him, pointing frantically at the hills, informing him that Indians are hiding there and about to attack. Wayne doesn’t answer, just turns and gazes into the hills. Then he turns back to the guy and says, “There are 8000 Indians out there. And 2 of us. I reckon that’ll be enough.”
Cousin says
Lmao. “His name is Ideal. Ideal Org.”
I will never get over the juxtaposition of Scientology being so evil and so corny both at the same time.
Aquamarine says
“Ideal. Ideal Org.”….LMAO too!
whatareyourcrimes says
I agree Cousin. Scientology is like the Keystone Kops, or Three Stooges, but with black capes and twirling moustaches.
hgc10 says
I think I’ve stumbled into a legitimate superlative for the Church of Scientology: America’s foremost proponent of fundraising costume parties.
Gail Shourds says
I know! They must have a closet just full of costumes to go to these things! How many normal people have Superhero, Tango, Roaring 20s, Pirates, western wear and goodness knows what else!! Geez
Aquamarine says
I almost wish I’d get invited to one of their costume fundraising things. I still have a Sally Bowles costume somewhere. Everything’s still in the box including the spiky little black wig, inch long eyelashes and false purple fingernails. A friend of mine and I won a prize together as Master of Ceremonies and Sally back in the day. He looked amazing; a ringer for Joel Grey in the film. I know he’d still be up for it. He’d do it if I asked him. God that would be funny, crashing a cult party in these get-ups, and we could sing, “Money Makes The World Go “Round”…what better song for a Church of Scientology fundraiser – LOL!
georgemwhite says
Looking at real estate on-line in downtown Clearwater for the Religious Freedom Center. Too many Scientology buildings to deal with. I think that the initial location should be on Ft. Harrison near the Scientology information center. Will tour by auto this weekend to see if other buildings are up for lease or sale.
whatareyourcrimes says
You do realize that now an army of scientologist security and sea org members will be manning every intersection in downtown Clearwater this weekend, on the look out for a ceramic demented looking ventriloquist dummy driving around.
Richard says
Laughter! George is a shape shifter and will don his orange Buddhist robe and carry an alms bowl for the visit.
Joe Pendleton says
Really should be , The name is Org … IDEAL Org … The way they did it messes up the whole reference … Just sayin’
Aquamarine says
OMG, you’re RIGHT! “The name is Org…IDEAL Org…”
Still laughing, thank you, gentlemen! Lots of stress this week finally lifting.
Nicole says
The Roaring 20’ies?? Really?
Old Surfer Dude says
I roared in the 20s in my last lifetime. But nobody would listen to me.
Nicole says
?
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks for listening to me, Nicole.
Katy Lied says
That made me laugh too. They’ve never seen a poster or sign or anything talking about the “Roaring 20s?” Even if they had never seen a sign, the reference manuals make it very clear:
4.38 Plural of numbers
To form the plurals of numbers, whether expressed as figures or as words, add s or es alone, without an apostrophe.
Eg: fours and sixes 1950s 10s or 20s
Or wait, this is from The Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association, 6th edition, p. 114.
TitleWaves says
How does the cult keep getting away with using actors in their promos that are not culties? I don’t think Johnny Depp would ever approve this thumbs up photo appearing to endorse the biggest fraud “religion” of modern times. The “Approves do I” stamp is outrageous.
As usual, their ads lack imagination. To say they’re nauseating, corny and offensive is being far too kind.
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Old Surfer Dude says
Happens to me all the time…
Peter Norton says
I’ve been looking forward to meeting you, OSD, but with what is on your breath, I think I’ll pass!!! LOL
Old Surfer Dude says
Oh, c’mon now, Peter! What’s a little vomit between friends? I mean, barf happens!
Aquamarine says
You’re right, I don’t think Johnny Dep would be too keen on being used for this cult poster. Funny, how they never dare use TOM this way! Uh uh! But that’s ok, because DM loves TC. If someday the cult folds and they need to part, DM, you can sing this to Tom: (sorry George and Ira G!)
There are many many crazy things
That will keep me loving you
And with your permission
May I list a few:
The way you wear your Hat
The way you’re so OT
The memory of all that
No, no, they can’t take that away from me.
The way we posed on bikes
The way we danced until 3
The way we both hate Kikes
No no they can’t take that away from me.
We may never ever meet again on that bumpy Bridge To Love
Still I’ll always always keep the memory of
The way you shared your strife
On first reading OT 3
The way you dumped your wife
No no they can’t take that away from me
No, they can’t take that away from me.
Peter Norton says
George and Ira might even be smiling. Nicely done. The odd thing for me is that I was singing that song about four days ago. I love the old timeless music.
Aquamarine says
Peter,
You like Gershwin? I’ve got one that Cruise could sing to Miscavige:
A Fine bromance
With no kisses
A fine bromance
DM, this is.
We should be like a couple of hot tomatoes
But you’re as cold as yesterday’s mashed potatoes.
A Fine bromance
You won’t nestle
A fine bromance
You won’t wrestle
Since you got Lou we never go out to dance
I never stand a chance
This is a fine bromance..
whatareyourcrimes says
Scientology still uses papyrus font?
Oh yeah, I forgot they are thirty years behind the times.
Old Surfer Dude says
Only 30 years?
Alcoboy says
Only thirty? Who are you kidding?
whatareyourcrimes says
36 million people in Canada, and there has to be that one idiot who embarrasses everyone else…Justin Bieber.
And now they can add a second idiot to that list, Louis Charles-Guay
And that gross sea org slogan…
Many are called.
Few are stupid enough to hang their hats on the hated name of scientology.
Zardu Bafflemaff says
You mean the slogan the Sea Org uses that’s a straight ripoff from the Bible. Seems nothing is original from them.
Alcoboy says
As long as Louis Charles-Guay doesn’t piss in a mop bucket, he should be okay.
whatareyourcrimes says
Ha Ha Ha!! ; )
Oh I am sure somewhere there is an LRH pearl of wisdom where he advocates using piss to clean things, as it is an excellent source of ammonia.
I think that is how the Sea Org staff washes their hair, as they certainly can not afford shampoo.
Balletlady says
The “random blue chandelier” in the first photograph is a “take off” of the Fountainebleau Hotel…the luxury oceanfront hotel in Miami Beach, FL. THIS poster mentions the “Fontaine Hotel” in Kansas City…a FAR CRY from the ocean front luxury hotel in Florida……
A bit deceiving for those who’ve heard the name Fountainebleau & THINK this is the same place ……the joke will be on them when they try to find the ocean!!
I Yawnalot says
The Chan Man is back!!!! Yipeee…
Yes indeed, good question. How does he make money with his show and dance act? I would love to know what his income is from his travels. If there’s any magic in Scientology, he’s sure must have worked it out. I’m sure he’d fit in the same cell with Miscavige when the time comes. Then they can reg each other for the soap.
Old Surfer Dude says
Just don’t drop it…
whatareyourcrimes says
The Chan man probably won’t face any time.
Others in the upper heirarchy, I’m not so certain. I hope they are compiling hard evidence to flip against Miscavige to save themselves when the time comes.
I love it… WHEN THE TIME COMES. I am seeing that comment more and more.
Golden Era Parachute says
Don’t do what your bank says?!
Yea. Why do you need auditing when you just ignore your bank and case. Just don’t compute your case into any equation. Simple. The years of auditing are simply not required. Dianetics and Scientology, not required. #CASELESS
Not hidden anymore. You heard it from the man himself, those are the two ‘most-super’ stablest stable data because ‘ignore the bank’ and #caseless
Wynski says
Golden Era, the entire joke of the lower bridge is that the “bank” doesn’t exist. Nothing to ignore.
zemooo says
Canadian Clam has a brand new shirt, fresh out of the bag. The neck and sleeves don’t fit very well. I wonder what country he is from? Besides, everyone knows that at this time of year, Canadians wear plaid wool shirts. Or hockey jerseys.
Poor Mikey Chan, never at home, always on the move. Did he ‘forget’ to pay off his loan shark? He is running from something. I bet his biggest contribution to the Chirch is his airline miles.
Why does the ‘ideal’ Africa look like Downton Abby?
So much ‘training’ and ‘hatting’ for ‘Dissemination’. I guess since the body routers can’t bring them in, the public has to do that. Soon, the entire Clampire will have to ‘disseminate’ or as the Jehovah’s Witnesses call it, ‘Witness’, all across this great planet of ours. I really want to see how that goes over in Riyadh.
The last time I had a ‘burning desire’ I went the free clinic.
How deluded is deluded enough? And I don’t mean you have run out of ‘ludes.
Alcoboy says
Good question: why does the Africa Ideal Org look like Downton Abbey?
More like, Downton Abbey during a drought.
Mother Hubbard says
The South African Downton Abbey is really an old Johannesburg building known as the Castle. It’s had various reincarnations over the years but Scientology bought it& has kept it well and truly closed and empty. They’ve pulled up the drawbridge & filled up the moat with kool aid
bixntram says
I love it: “many are called…the sane go running.” Good one, Wynski.
Old Surfer Dude says
Many are called, and regret to their dying day.
Cat W. says
“Many are called, and regret to their dying day.”
That’s so sad. I wasn’t a Scientologist, but I do know that feeling. My condolences on your loss (of those years of your life).
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks, Cat. I appreciate it.
Wynski says
Sadly true OSD
BKmole says
Dissemination Bootcamp?
Step 1 – contact. As soon as the word Scientology is used I guarantee people will start running.
So step 2 should be – sprint after the person and handle.
PeaceMaker says
Isn’t the Midwest littered with languishing “ideal org” projects, old buildings bought a decade or more ago by struggling orgs unable to complete the necessary fundraising for renovations – not just KC but St. Louis, Chicago, and Battle Creek? They do have the “ideal” org in Minneapolis-St. Paul. There are signs that Detroit may finally get done, but I suspect that has been picked for a bailout with outside funds, because the city is a NOI stronghold. Cincinnati doesn’t really count because while Ohio is often considered a Midwestern state (though demographers sometimes argue that only the Western part of the state really is), the org is actually in Kentucky, which isn’t; and it’s also a reminder that Scientology has only a small and failing mission left in the Cleveland metropolitan area, and an org in Columbus with a nearly decade-old “ideal” org campaign that still hasn’t even gotten as far as buying a building.
Then, of course, there are all the states in the middle of the country where Scientology has no presence at all, or nothing more than token missions kept on life support by dedicated and desperate franchisees (who sometimes run other businesses out of the supposed location, or even resort to locating the mission in their home). The failure of Scientology in the heartland, is really notable.
“Dissemination” is another monumental, ongoing failure – it’s clearly not happening, or at least not working, in spite of all the hype and any supposed training. Though apparently members are being told, and are believing, that SuMP is somehow going to be the next great thing that will change all that, and make what has consistently not worked, work finally….
Richard says
Looking at scn now as an old timer who exited scn in 1982, it seems there might be a lack of a middle class in scn these days. Maybe it’s sea org who consider themselves already OT by virtue of being in the sea org and an upper class which has expendable income.
In my day I did most of my auditing by co auditing which saved money. I don’t recall the exact figures but before the monthly price increases resumed around 1982 the whole OT package could be bought for around four or five thousand dollars which might be forty or fifty thousand dollars today.
Peter Norton says
You forgot the repetitive sec checking with part and parcel of the struggle to cross the bridge. That can easily take the cost to the half million mark.
I, too, exited about that time. It had been a fun run with some truly great friends…most of whom also left. It was a fascinating Exodus with so many of the most interesting and talented simply walking out the door. No apologies, no explanations.
Ah, fresh air!!!
Richard says
Peter Norton – When I split I was still “happy as a clam” with subject itself. I thought the price increases were just greedy and I wasn’t willing to pay the price. I joined the Great Exodus of blown scn-ists in LA around around 1982 and joined a “Blown Scientologist Support Group” (many sprung up)
We discussed other practices and listened to a lot of channelling tapes.
RMycroft says
CLO Canada has a Toronto number rather than for Guelph, where their new rental place is.
I think they’ve lost the CLO staff somewhere in the Canadian “wilderness” with all the moves they’ve done. Louis-Charles’ first task will be to find them. They’re probably huddled in a building at the forgotten AOSH Canada location, surviving off of handouts from hikers on the Bruce Trail.
Gravitysucks says
Re: KC? Lots of buildings in the nucleus of City look like a prison. Bars on windows, even at the hair weave salons.
Old Surfer Dude says
I wonder if I could get hair weave?
Gravitysucks says
Do you have hair? If you do, im guessin theyd hook ya up.
Old Surfer Dude says
I’ve still got a full head of hair. Mind you, it’s greying rapidly.
Debbie Rushing says
I do not see how Kansas City mo. Would be that receptive!
Wynski says
Many are called … the sane go running, in the other direction!
The Sea Borg
Old Surfer Dude says
Wyn, the Sea Borg sounds like a sea monster, that could take the ship down.
Wynski says
Oh crap OSD. There is a sci-fi author named Jack Chaulker (spelling?) Anyway he wrote 4 book series Called the Lord of the Diamond and in one there was a sea creature named a Bork that would attack ships.
Old Surfer Dude says
I’ve been trying to tell you that!
Alcoboy says
It could and it will.
I Yawnalot says
Oh! That’s Puff’s cousin on his father’s side. Always did have a wicked sense of humour that dragon.