The Never Ending Story…
Now they are doing fundraising “bake sales” in a Mission? For what? An ideal mission building? To pay the staff?
Get App’d?
More accurate would be “Get BS’d”
Total knowledge. Total certainty.
Nothing over the top about this….
And it’s just ho-hum to scientologists who actually believe LRH had “total knowledge” and they can gain this too.
18th??
Sounds like they are cannibals or something and just consumed their 18th human.
Axiom 10
“The highest purpose in this universe is the creation of an effect”
Jim Bridgeforth? Hana-li? Brandi Harrison?
That’s not much “effect” being created.
Drew is back
Once again being promoted as a “Class VIII” (probably until someone reads this and then he will be pulled into ethics again and told there is no such thing as there is no GAT Class VI or Class VIII course — the old stuff doesn’t count).
There is many ways….
And it doesn’t get better from there. “When public reach, what do they do and what happens?” Seriously?
Gag me…
Ireland Idealyness
They are actually proud of the fact that they got someone to come from Canada to complete the SRD? Wow.
Wonder if there are ANY Irish people in this place? Why would they be so hyped about getting a single person from Canada?
Desperate much?
Trainee lodgings?
Wait, they have those 3 motels solely for outer org trainees. Oh yeah, Orlando cannot afford to pay for a room there for their trainees…
Some ideal org.
And just wait til Flag crew finds out the Flag OT Committee is working to steal business from them.
Help whenever and wherever needed…
Riiight.
The actual motto of the IAS is “Photo op whenever and wherever we can get one.”
“We’re all mad here”
Couldn’t have said it better myself…
They’re cracking it
Whatever “it” may be.
Made OF Manchester?
Bringing scientology to the North? I thought that was Sunderland?
What’s Jesus got to do with anything?
Well, nothing really. Just an excuse to get people so they can be regged.
Flag public
They manned Tampa. Now Orlando it seems.
Hey, come to think of it, if you want a Cleared Florida so bad, why didn’t you join Tampa staff? Or Miami? Or maybe you would be better off getting anything going in Jacksonville or Tallahassee or Naples? Orlando is already under control. They’ve got an ideal building. Those other places don’t even have a group.
What an Ideal Org CF looks like
In 30 years they have amassed about 1000 names — this is EVERYONE who has ever bought a book or service from Orlando org. Ever.
But don’t worry, now that they have a building in a backwater, this city is basically cleared.
Zero discrimination night at Flag
Wow, wonder what would happen if I showed up for their movie?
Extensive studies show…
No they don’t. Otherwise scientology would be touting them all over the place. I challenge anyone to find a link to a single real study anywhere on the massive scientology website.
But hey, what if I don’t have any money, can I still be part of this?
The answer to your question is simple: “What does LRH say?”
Use CSN to promote…
You don’t want to talk about it, tell them to watch TV instead. It’s much easier.
Just be careful when they are surfing channels they don’t tune in to A&E.
This guy again?
He has never advanced beyond heading up WISE in EUS? He’s an expert on “management tech”? He has never risen above lower middle management in scientology where the attrition rate of executives makes the Peter Principle the only stable datum.
University of New Mexico being suckered…
The funniest poster EVER
Unlikely to ever be toppled from the pinnacle of absurdity.
What an amazing reason this is to sell the importance of having an ideal org in Orlando.
The Onion would be proud of this.
With all these references about baking I guess that you could say that there ideas were ” Half Baked ” or has some one already used that line ? .
I would think after the first few years of ”exciting events” that are nothing more than excuses to hit them up for money, it would just get old. The endless revisions, endless begging and demanding donations, saving the planet, magic healing, you are the special chosen ones and we need you now, blah blah.. yet nothing actually changes. Same ol, same ol. Events become more bizarre, claims more outrageous, as they try to impress a public that has been tuning out the endless marketing and empty claims for years.
So they yell louder and louder, now to television, endlessly seeking attention like a narcissist searching for a mirror to admire his own reflection.
It’s stunning to think anyone is still naive or ignorant enough to donate or join or even stay in.
Re: “There is many ways….” Flyer
. . . . . .
Graphic Design is their burden.
If I can spend $10 for a seminar that will teach me “how to operate as an OT while going OT,” why would I spend $100,000 to actually go OT??
What’s up with these people and tacos?
Someone should bake a cake with a file in it and send it to Shelley Miscavige.
Someone should bake a chocolate cream pie, blow up a picture of David Miscavige, post it up in some org’s reception and then…very satisfying. Childish, I grant you. But satisfying.
Make sure the cake has a marzipan sculpture of Gold Base on fire with the caption ” The End Is Nigh “
Come on scientologists. Let’s hold a bake sale… Miscavige needs a new Omega watch!
Easter Bake Sales, Egg Hunts, etc. To me it is amusing and disturbing at the same time that Scientology feels no compunction in coopting Christian holidays, whether it’s Christmas or Easter. I believe it is done for two reasons, to appeal to non-Scientologists who in the least are culturally Christian. Shouts, “See we’re just like you.” And, because other than LRH’s birthday and the day LRH went cold as a carp, what other holidays with any religious connection could they acknowledge? This means anyone who is not a Scientologist could give a rat’s rump about the life, death, and continuing death of LRH. So Scientology coopts meaningful Christian holidays. It begs the question why no CoS bake sales for Passover, Dewali, or Eid. Because Scientology is all American white bread and mayonnaise.
To be fair – we Christians co-opted Christmas (yule) and Easter :/
Well you are slightly correct. Christians did no such thing. What the Christians coopted was the dates of seasonal pagan celebrations. But not appear similar to pagans. The coopting of seasonal celebrations might actually have been an action of government once the empire made Christianity a state religion. At any rate 5th Century Christians were not holding Saturnalia bake sales. Which was my point.
Going a bit further into it, the Romans altered the pagan celebrations of the four seasons, then made the pagan celebration illegal, in many cases leading to the deaths of many pagans. And the earliest of Roman leaders condemned the earliest Christians to death by the many thousands, their deaths often entertainment spectacles to keep the masses in line. All through history, “belief” systems have been used as control tools. The Jews were no different and the “Old” testament is filled with almost staggering slaughters, down to the youngest babies. Euthanasia to the max.
Interesting you should say that. Well my studies in college, a long time ago, was Byzantium and The Crusades. Though I’ve studied a little theology too. And I read incessantly. That said, why when someone, like myself points out, in my opinion, that the CoS appeals to popular belief/culture to show their mainstream, as I pointed out here, do we go off on tangents? Yes, I get it, some folks just don’t like religion, and at times I fall into that category. But from here on in I am just gonna stay on point. Sorry to be a scold, but thus far the comments are not on point.
“Yes, I get it, some folks just don’t like religion…” You got that right, A J.
And if as a tangiental point someone here sharest that Christianity, the philosophy,via various stratagems, was hammered into a religion acceptable to the pagans, a religion that for at least a thousand years HAD to be adhered to, upon threat of torture or death perhaps you might want to be a bit more tolerant of those who, when the subject of Christianity arises, do not stay strictly “on point”.
Talk about wandering off point:
For over a thousand years, Christianity was pretty much of an incredibly bloody, gruesome horror show altogether unrecognizable from the original “love thy neighbor as thyself” / “You are your brother’s keeper” philosophy as written in the New Testament.
The only reason its still around is because several hundred years ago the various Christian sects wised up and eliminated the punishments, disconnections, assortment of tortures and manners of death as the consequences of heresy and instead focused on helping, nurturing, understanding and loving people
THAT is why Christianity is still alive, and that’s the only reason it is.
And now I’m guilty of your crime, too. Sorry to wander “off topic”. Please resume your regularly scheduled Christian program. You were saying?
I never made reference to any personal faith. Well here’s what an ancient people might call you Aquamarine, a Shvantz. First class too.
Whatever 🙂
18th Humanitarian? I think it costs $100K to be dubbed “Humanitarian” doesn’t it? Sweet Xenu, that’s a lot of wasted money.
Two things that I need to say. First the movie one “Remember the Titans”,seating available but bring your chair? HUH. Second I was in a fully integrated high school with same football team in the 1960’s. Last the UNM should be careful. They get federal money and anything from religious organization’s needs to be avoided or all religions are open on campus. And omitting one may lose their federal grants programs.
If it’s anything like I’ve seen here at the University of Mormonia, they’re probably just setting up a small thing in the ‘free speech’ zone at the student union. Unless they’re giving out free pizza or T-shirts (neither of which are probably in the org budget), everyone will just pretend to be texting when they walk by.
Manchester UK (a beautiful City) could use many things BUT Scientology certainly isn’t one of them. How are they going to fill this massive building which has been left empty for over a decade, when their far smaller building in the centre of the city is always uninhabited?
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/church-scientology-building-old-trafford-12474501
Will, shortly before I left the cult, I asked this precise question to the EO of my little org: “Why are we fundraising for a huge new building when there’s hardly anyone in THIS building anymore? Our voices are echoing in the halls here!”
My answer? No answer. A blank look from her. 40 years on staff; highly admin and ethics trained. And I get a blank look in answer to this question.
I liked her. I respected and trusted her.
Today, I see she was just another one of the knowing, cult criminals who aid and abet the crimes of David Miscavige. And she has company in my former org in that there are people there who’ve been on staff for 20 – 30 years. They’re NOT innocent. They KNOW the truth and yet they still perpetrate this fraud.
They’re reaping their reward for being criminals. The ED answers the phones now, mostly. They don’t even have a daytime receptionist anymore. But, you know what? They’re diehards. They’ll go down with the ship.
In the meantime, none of them are allowed to speak with me! Because, I am highly dangerous! Quite dangerous! Their eternity could be threatened. No way can they speak to me!
Of course, they can speak ABOUT me and no doubt they do
There is some juicy stuff in my PC folder. Happened back in the day. Two affairs with married men – yes, that’s what’s in there! One when I was 18 and the other when I was 38.
So when they gather to sew and gossip – hopefully they’re doing SOMETHING useful because per their Facebook page they’re not making any Clears or auditors – when they converge to knit or do embroidery or make quilts or fund raise, I imagine they must feel kind of useless, not producing any actual org products
So I’m glad the old ladies have this spicy PC folder data to gossip and whisper about if/as necessary when they need to reassure themselves that they are just so right and I am oh, so wrong! For not going along with the fundraising!
Or just to give their existence a little Zing.
Happy to help! Have fun, ladies!
Aqua, those diehard fools are indeed aiding and abetting a criminal enterprise, but I still feel sad that they have wasted their lives.
I hear you, WAYC. I used to feel sad for them. I don’t anymore. We woke up and said, “Wait, this is wrong. I’m out of here”. They woke up, saw JUST what we saw, and said, “This is wrong, and I’m staying.” Sorry for them? Nope. They are knowing criminals. Doesn’t mean I won’t help them IF THEY BLOW.AND THE CULT IS STILL INTACT.. I will. But if the cult implodes FIRST and then they have no where else to go – would I trust them? The answer is no. They may have started out OK but they’re trained criminals now. For years they’ve been knowingly conning people. I don’t care why. Trust them? They’re crooks. I’d contribute to the Aftermath Foundation, though, to have them housed somewhere and rehabbed so that hopefully they become human again, with actual feelings and the ability to care about others, to care about anything that isn’t dollars and cents, or “Command Intention”.
I’m with you on the forgiveness train, and you are right, they have to blow first. I’d always be willing to help a desperate ex-scientologist to land on their feet.
Glad to hear you say that. A Sea Org member waking up? Deciding, “I’m our of here” and blowing? Come to Mama 🙂
I think the best description of where the cult is now would be; the Americanized version of the Startrek cyborgs. These people are really brain dead and taken over by Hubborg and Miscaborg.
Why would Scientologists celebrate Christian holidays/events? I thought they could not be another religion along with Scientology.
I agree Pam Scott. Why do the scientologists celebrate Christain holidays? What a load of crap this is. I guess they try to get more of their greedy hands on money because it seems that is all they worship. Nothing but a bunch of thieves.
That is true. But you only find that out waaayyyyyy later. These events are a great way to seem normal to the Wog World.
Just love the swan boat. I can really see Scientology expanding with that. I assume it is peddle powered?
Probably is peddle powered, only problem is if you try to use one they’ll just belittle you for wasting time when you could be Clearing the Planet!
“I believe the word you’re looking for is “pedal”, how one activates a bicycle. On the other hand, to “peddle” is to sell something and that seems to work for scio! LOL
A better word for all of scientology might be DRIVEL!!!
“Find out how to use the scientology network to promote to your friends, family, co-workers and acquaintances.” Jeez, and here I thought that “we aren’t here to preach to you or convert you.” I guess I missed something yet again.
“LOOK WHO’S COMING!”
…or else.
That’s a huge list and I am very familiar with someone on that list who’s an OT Committee Member who, without any solicitation from me, went off on how fed up she and the Chicago field was with the “Ideal Org Project” in Chicago. Told me of how the numbers (and the OT Committee members) at these events kept going down and down and down, that it was a horrible location as most of the people had to come in from the suburbs of Chicago and that people were tapped and fed up, including herself. I was quietly fed up myself and a few months later I was declared a suppressive person. So, of course, I never heard a peep from her again. She’s still a fine upstanding in “good standing” scientologist. Probably even doing everything she can to fulfill the OT Ambassador program she is given every year. SLAVE.
Some people are OK with being slaves. They may change “masters” and they’ll constantly bitch and moan about how they’re being taken advantage of, and how unfair it is to them, etc. , etc., and you’ll be expected to dutifully listen and sympathize and they’ll even entertain suggestions from you but the result is always that then they go right on being slaves because, it can only be assumed, that’s what they’re comfortable with, want, need, or whatever. With people like this, look, don’t listen. They never change.
And I’ll add that this has nothing to do with working hard per se. Some of the laziest people I know are slaves – they’d happily do nothing if they weren’t continually being driven by someone, someone over them all the time, ordering, demanding, nagging threatening, this is what “motivates” them.
Why is that man in the “We’re cracking it” flyer wearing his underpants on his head?
To keep out the BTs.
(Slaps forehead) but of course!
(Slaps to face) but of course!
I don’t know why I didn’t think of it before, but remember when they sent out those DVDs so scientologists could make their own websites and when you used them, it installed a net nanny on your computer? I wonder if you download the scientology TV app if it installs some sort of net nanny on your smartphone.
Great comment Valerie… and any app from scientology probably has a lot more than just a net nanny.
It would be cool to get a tech-head to rip open the innards of that app and let us all know what kind of insidious malware those snakes in scientology are planting on devices. Everything else they do is evil, so why wouldn’t they do that too?
Yes, I’ll learn to bake. One of those big, fluffy cream pies. A huge, fluffy lemon meringue. And I’ll know just what to do with it.
Don’t be wasting one of your fine pies on a culties face ………….. save it for the party! I love Lemon Meringue Pie!
Well we could make mud pies to throw at David’s picture, or at him! And yes, save the real pies, the Strawberry-Rhubarb pies for our party!
Well OK!. Per my pie checklist to date: Lemon Meringue for Newcomer, Strawberry Rhubarb for Cindy, Huntington Beach Mud for Miscavige…got it!
I see that the Chicago org has gotten their list of confirmed attendees for their “all hands” big annual event up to 139, from 133 last week. Typically that’s the org’s whole “field,” probably about half people who are UTR or who show up at major events for reasons of social contacts and nostalgia, and 50 or 60 who actually somewhat active in the org. This is in a metropolitan area of 9.5 million – which has another of the decaying historic buildings in its downtown, that the local org bought for Scientology about a decade ago but for which their relatively small and weak local group has been unable to complete the fundraising to turn it into an “ideal” org.
And in one of the saddest of strugging orgs, Orlando, if their approximately 70 shelves of CF files take up about the same amount of room as medical records (they use similar if not identical folders, and look to be stored on actual medical record shelves) it would be in the ballpark of 100 per shelf or around 7,000 records total, which makes sense to me for a small org – though it’s still a pretty pitiful accumulation of mostly minor contacts (personality tests taken at tables set up in public spaces, etc.) over 3 or 4 decades, something in the ballpark of 200 per year and almost certainly less in recent years.
Looking at some of these ads, it’s just occurred to me that Scientology stunts and retards your sense of humor. Their attempts at funny and clever come off as weird and creepy. And sometimes it’s something that’s non-sequitur coming from somewhere out in left field. You can only respond with “whaaa?” As an ad designer, I always tried to inject some humor in my work. Even as the Director of Promotion & Marketing for a So Cal Mission I sometimes was able to sneak one past the higher-ups.
http://www.fracturedjourney.shugartmedia.com/book-promo.html
Hi Chris.
Another book from an ex?? Brilliant. Really looking forward to getting a copy.
When is it’s predicted release date?
By now the co$ must have almost given up on preventing tell all books from being published. Maybe? To stem the flow must be similar to trying to bail out the Titanic with a bucket…………..
I hope you haven’t had problems in finding a publisher?
Thank you for writing the book and take care.
What an unfortunate turn of phrase! Mr Strub is an “expert in his knowledge…” Not in the subject, but in his knowledge.
The same flyer claims “magic tools”. Finally they admit it!
The #2 Orlando fact is a swan boat? Wow! What made #1?
“Expert in his knowledge” missed that one; thanks Cre8. My guess is that the poor slobs who HAVE drunk the Koolaid in recent years are far less educated and literate than was true in previous years.
Then again, let’s not be too harsh on Mr. Strub. For all I know he may have a masters degree in – ta-da! Science!
I just realized the “coincidence” of the Mad Hatter.. TR-1 and TR-2.. lol
Mike! Fab Funnies and snark. Each so jokable and degradable – where do I begin?
I used to drive past those 3 cute motels in Clearwater every morning and night. It wasn’t uncommon to see a pile of nasty looking thin mattresses in a heap in the parking lot, waiting for garbage pick up. Whenever rooms had their blinds open (not often), you could clearly see that the bunks were 3 high–made of rough 2×4’s. Maybe they aren’t excited to show Orlando newbies what their future living conditions may be like, before they are fully ensnared.
Hey Lyle, i want to help. My home is small, and my huge living room couch is reserved for some Aftermath Foundation referral blowing the cult so, no, I don’t have a bedroom for your trainees, but I know an attic they can hang upside down in.
God, scientology is so f***ing depressing.
WAYC, don’t be depressed. The truth can be lonely. But whether or not its a goal, no one gets to any kind of “higher state” or enjoys any kind of lasting happiness on earth without it. Love yourself, respect yourself, be true to yourself, and others will too. This is true for everyone. Sending you a hug now.
Gee you can get a “special Sunday service AND a parenting lecture!”…..thanks I’ll pass…since you don’t parent your kids that’s going to be a very short lecture. I prefer to see and live with my children every day.
Ok, so one day the public can be on course. The next day, they all put on VM shirts and head over to UNM? So what, the next day they help pass out some Way to Happiness booklets at a flea market?
I guess trying to sell Dianetics books on the street isn’t the preferred sales method anymore.
“Trying to” was the death knell of that activity! LOL
So let me get this straight … In the post GAT, phase 2 world of blindingly fast standard tech, this lady is fucked on SRD for three years in Canada !!!! … Bogged, she does not go to much closer ideal orgs in NYC, SF, etc, but all the way to IRELAND, where there are virtually no Scientologists at all to get debugged … SAY WHAT????????
Hey — there is an ideal org in Cambridge Ontario and another one in Montreal. Right there in Canada! And another one right across the border in Buffalo. Or if she is out west, right across the border in Seattle.
This proves my point from yesterday. The current role call is full of eccentrics. #Irrational
Mike, you’re falling into the Scientology PR of “postulating” things that don’t exist 🙂
Montreal is one of the many sad orgs in a dingy storefront where they’ve been forever, that bought a historic building about a decade ago, but has been unable to raise funds to renovate it, instead letting it sit and rot while racking up tax bills and civic complaints. Come to think of it, I don’t recall seeing anything about it in ages, so I wonder if it is one of the “ideal” project campaigns like St. Louis that they have now quietly abandoned.
Quebec does have an “ideal” org, however. I haven’t noticed anything about them in ages, either, so they may not be faring any better, except that they perhaps managed to get some local “whales” to complete their fundraising campaign before it had dragged on too long.
Excuse me — mixed up Montreal and Quebec.
I guess I need some more Metamucil….
🙂
Decisions, decisions. Learn to sing “Shuffle Off To Buffalo” or become Sleepless in Seattle.
““The highest purpose in this universe is the creation of an effect”
Well, DUH!! Beyond that I’m speechless. This profundity is right up there with “wherever you go, there you are.” C’mon, you cult clones; tell me you see the utter stupidity of that statement; restore my faith in hum intelligence.
True, Quentin Strub doesn’t need an introduction. What he needs is some Metamucil. He’s looking kinda backed up.
Yeah, sort of rhymes with, “if you think about it you’re too late.”
Scientology technology truly is, ‘of no fixed address!’ Perhaps that’s why they are insane on the subject of real estate.
Orlando employing the Billy Madison tekkers…
STOP LOOKING AT ME, SWAAAAAN.
I just wondering….does “Desilu” (Desi Arnaz & Lucille Ball movie company) know that “Lucy” (Lucille Ball) is baking desserts for “the organization”…..hmmm…..
Better read “The Frank Report”…..cults are becoming illegal in America!
Actress Allison Mack is finding out the hard way!
As always.. stunning.. I mean, I am stunned to see that this propaganda is still working..
Please explain, “working?”
Love the sarcastic commentary Mike. The Co$ could be the “poster child” of the Peter Principal, as you noted for that one poster ?
“Above the mechanics of space and time is consideration. Above consideration is YOU.”
What the hell does that mean?? I’ve wrestled with a bit of Sartre and Camus way back when. A hard slog, but at least it was logical and made sense. This is just hot air, and a great illustration of why I’ve never read “Dianetics.”
Bixntram, it means you are you. Pretty heavy, huh! I mean, think about it. Now you know who you are! I think that’s the EP. And if it’s not the EP, who fucking cares?!
Do you have a driver’s licence or social security card? There you are!
Scientology sells you a very, and I mean VERY expensive mental wallet or purse.
Yeah, pretty heavy, OSD. Or, as we used to say back in the day: “Far Fuckin’ Out.”
LOL! ROTFLMFAO! Now that’s some funny shit!
“Above the mechanics of space and time is consideration. Above consideration is YOU.”
They probably left out where LRH goes on to clarify, “And above you is ME.”
Tiny Tim once wrote a profound lyric – “one eye is brown, the other eye is brown. I am a fish, I swim around.”
I liked Tiny Tim, but he did have something in similarity with Scioland adherents behaviour in that they both want to, “tip toe through the tulips with meeeeeee….”
The difference is that Tiny Tim was paid to entertain…and did so. Scio insanity is supposed to result in money, too, but it can hardly be considered entertainment.
Bix…..it’s Hubbard’s attempt at stating a very ancient truth: consciousness is independent of matter.
Spirit is senior to the physical world.
We are the witness of our experiences.
We are spiritual beings living a human existence.
This is a truth that the eastern world knows. Western mystics understand this also.
Materialists will scoff at what I just stated.
Okay, I get it; perfectly understood. So why couldn’t Hubbard say what you just said?
Hubbard created his own language to make us think that his info was unique, different and more scientific.
NEVER BEFORE PERCEIVED BY ANY HUMAN BEING IN THE HISTORY OF FOREVER….. I, L RON HUBBARD AM SUPER DUPER SPECIAL AND BETTER THAN ANYONE.
He’s simply stating a common spiritual truth garbed in his magic wand of deception:
The soul, consciousness, is separable from matter. Mr. Smarty Pants just wanted to sound scientific.
I always get a kick out of these ridiculous quotes of LRH on the propaganda pieces. Scientologists seem to think anything burped out of LRH is equivalent to rainbows out of a unicorn’s rear end.
Somewhere in some scientology building I picture an exec throwing darts at a wall of LRH quotes, and then using the random quote on the next piece of promotional material. It is THAT absurd.
I actually laughed out load at your first paragraph. And continued smiling through the second.
The Mission in Montrose, CA closed a few years ago. It sits on one of the most heavily foot trafficked streets within 20 miles and is a VERY upscale area. I wonder who paid $ to reopen that VERY expensive place?
I smell a VERY nasty lower conditions assignment being worked on.
Question: If you’re a mission holder and you close up shop, do you then get “handled?” I’m curious.
I’ve never actually seen an accounting of how it works internally from someone with insider knowledge of Scientology’s franchising arm SMI, which I’d love to know about, but I can tell you from observing things very long-term, that mission holders must get “handled” if they even think about closing a mission – with the one exception being, typically, celebrities. Missions usually only close when the mission holder “blows” Scientology, moves away to retire, or dies – and since most of the remaining missions date back to Scientology’s heyday, and “boomer” generation mission holders, the missions seem to be going off a demographic cliff at moment as that group ages out. Mission holders are apparently pressed to keep a physical location open at all costs, but as a last resort that ends up being the mission holder’s business or home.
The internal logic is that Scientology is “booming” (no matter how much of an unrealistic fantasy that actually is), therefore if a mission isn’t booming it’s because the mission holder is doing something wrong, is guilty of being “reasonable” or is even covertly “suppressive,” so of course that requires a “handling.” It’s Orwellian 1984-style logic being applied.
From what I observed while in, Mission Holders who wanted or needed out were pressured by the cult to sell to some “upstat” Scientologist who would take over and actively run the mission. A twin I had on one of my courses was being furiously courted by the local mission holder to buy his/her mission. My twin had the money and out of politeness or fear of being written up allowed the pressuring to continue for many months but was not interested and insofar as I know, did not succumb to the sales pitch which to my knowledge consisted of threats of a New Dark Age heavily salted with Big Beingness compliments. So, wherever you are, VWD on THAT, Twin!
Thanks, PM. I wondered about that.
Back in late ’81, I smelled a rat and quietly closed my mission. The Mission Office didn’t notice for 10 weeks, then told me I could not close my mission. I asked, “How can I not do something I’ve already done?” That was the last I heard on the subject. Shortly thereafter, the mission system was systematically raided and all monies were stolen. So much for scio ethics.
Wow, what a combination of incompetence and greed! You didn’t smell A rat, you smelled a whole bunch.
Peter, thanks for sharing that account.
From what I can tell, nowadays, a mission holder wouldn’t dare close due to fear of heavy “ethics” consequences – unless, of course, they rate celebrity treatment.
Some of the missions had gone “squirrel” and were doing things like keeping two sets of books (partly to try to cope with Hubbard’s unreasonable demands for money), though that certainly didn’t justify the way that they were all treated – but it occurs to me, if nothing else, Scientology is really sort of about “one size fits all” approaches to things.
Also, in the late 70s, did you experience the dropoff in business that many missions did, which was probably actually attributable to the decline of the baby boom demographic, even if Scientology didn’t understand that reality?
When I was at the Honolulu mission and routing out, they wanted to handle me, but, I wouldn’t let them touch me. Can you imagine all those hands and not knowing who has cooties and who doesn’t? Uck!
OSD, from what you’ve shared in former posts, you let plenty of them “handle” you and you returned those motions…just saying 🙂
OMG! ROTFLMAO! You know me so well…
No idea Bix.
No matter what you do or not do – you “get handled” in Scientology! It’s the inevitable end product of everything that goes on in that organisation, or you get throw out or leave. They define “handle” as an income source.
Think Danny Masterson doing His liability formula.
Yo Julian,
How much is enough?
One correction, Wynski. Montrose Mission is still up and running (as it were). It was the Sunland Mission on Foothill Blvd that closed up and then joined forces with the Montrose Mission on Honolulu Blvd. Before Sunland Msn closed, they couldn’t pay their light bill from the get go an a couple of OT’s in the area paid it for them. But after some time of this, the OT’s had to stop doing that, and when they couldn’t afford to keep the doors open, they closed. H & R Block is now using the space that used to be the Sunland Msn.
Well, Cindy 4 years ago I went to the Montrose Mission (I used to live 2 blocks away) during the day and it had closed signs in the windows and it was dark inside. This is the Mission on Honolulu. I have never seen the Sunland Mission on Foothill Blvd.