Well, if you’re so good at this…
How about generating ANY expansion in ANY org ANYWHERE?
Kevin Wilson was touted as the person who was taking over Valley Org. That place is deader than a doornail. Why not go there and prove you can accomplish anything? No commissions?
Bring a blanket…
A picnic basket, friends, family and MOST IMPORTANT — your credit cards and check books. All of them.
The Raiders of the Empty Bank Balance will be part of the double feature.
Remember, nothing is free in scientology.
Secret location…
This is a hero?
Well, not really…
They’re not Done Sir with anything…
1200 people a week
They havent had 1200 people through their doors in a DECADE.
They could “think big” and go for a place that would hold 10 people and they would struggle to accomplish that for the next decade.
Wonder where they got this idea from…
David Miscavige had a soccer pitch built at Gold when he was trying to lure David Beckham in…
Huh?
Is this guy trying to be a DJ?
Tell me it ain’t so. About as UNcool as you could be…
This should read: “You can make a total fool of yourself”
Guarantee a prosperous, happy future…
The BEST thing you could do to ensure that comes true is steer clear of this.
How LRH used PR tech to establish himself into any new community he entered…
Really?
Like Rhodesia? England? France? Greece? Italy? Morocco? Spain? Portugal? Bermuda? Curacao? the US?
Never known anyone who was UNWELCOME in so many places.
Debug any postulate
How about the one every scientologist has to Clear the Planet. It’s going BACKWARDS.
Ron’s gobbledygook
Panic has set in?
I WOULD want to miss this…
But then again, that’s just me.
PS: Why Harry Potter?
Get your discount status
How much is left to go? Who knows.
OMG Two Clears!
Only 10 million left to go…
No idea what this is
But it seemed weird, so I threw it in the mix…
The “Return” of ChanMan
Wonder where he is returning from?
I guess he has really “returned”!
Wait — I thought they were already ideal?
Go karts? Racing for the future…
IAS CCHR fundraiser in his home?
Things are really sounding desperate…
But I guess he gets the commissions.
marildi: “It’s quite a stretch to apply all that to one’s own experience and the observations of changes in oneself that followed. …Added to that is the fact that the changes pcs make are sometimes observable to others around them as well.”
Simply acknowledging a change, whether in self or another, is arguably peripheral. It’s the interpretation and significance you attach to it that’s of most importance, imho (eg. do you automatically leap to Hubbard’s theory…or could there be something else going on?)
In HubSpeak™ it starts with the first postulate: not-know. What process you use to know/interpret things is up to you and will depend on what data you select and your ultimate goal. Per infinity valued logic, I am simply looking for a higher truth value, a more robust proposition. I am not looking for absolute certainty. Those days are long gone. Nor do I want to “just believe” (as JC told the doubting Thomas).
“(but for some reason you aren’t keeping the thread together by posting under the last comment so we can easily refer to it)”
It is annoying and i’m so sorry. Most funky! It’s not intentional. It may have something to do with the version of Chrome I use on my tablet. I’ll have a fiddle.
“Besides, the idea of “Don’t believe your own experiences” is kind of scary as a general rule – sort of like gaslighting.”
It’s only scary if your goal is certainty. I’m simply suggesting a healthy skepticism. Balance. Knowing what we know of the mind (and its susceptibilities) I think it’s a vital process in our personal evolution towards “truth”.
“I do realize that many people have so much faith (yes, faith) in science and its own dogma that IT is effectively their religion! Science sometimes serves as a good example of “taking someone else’s faith…on faith,” as you put it.”
Maybe. Although I would argue that the purpose of science is to question and to falsify, not to seek absolute truth. I would also argue that the scientific method is demonstrably superior to anything else we currently have in our epistemological toolbox, where reasoned discourse is able to flourish and where people can work together in advancing the pursuit of discovery. So whilst cosy in my little haven of doubt, I will nevertheless assign a higher truth value to scientific knowledge than to my own self. I know my limits. And as with any scientific study, I must always consider my own probability of error, check for cognitive biases and allow for the placebo effect… ?
I don’t particularly disagree with anything you’ve said in the above, as you’ve taken into account various relevant points of view. Nor does any of it conflict with what I wrote that was the essence of the discussion – which was that pcs (or some of them) make changes for the better as per their own observation and experience. Whether or not the changes have been scientifically proven – or need to be – is entirely irrelevant to most of those pcs. I agree with you that scientific proof is valuable, but it would only be “absolutely” and “dogmatically” necessary in the view of someone whose (essentially religious) convictions, with respect to science, require it.
Thanks for the exchange. I thought it was pretty good, considering what a hot topic this usually is. 🙂
marildi: “I agree with you that scientific proof is valuable, but it would only be “absolutely” and “dogmatically” necessary in the view of someone whose (essentially religious) convictions, with respect to science, require it.”
Which is fine. Practitioners of magick attach all sorts of weird and wonderful interpretations to their results. But if objective claims are made for their processes I would still be having the same argument. As soon as you stray from mythos into logos, the rules of the game have changed and the burden of proof applies.
I would add, however, that we live in a world where psychologists can now induce “religious experience” through suggestion and manipulation, and with relative ease. Where a large number of pharmaceutical drugs and medical procedures are no more effective than a simple placebo. Where a nocebo can induce actual physical illness. With this in mind, I would argue the desire to assign other-worldly causes to therapeutic/magickal results is becoming increasingly quaint and out-moded. Hence my recommendation. Because we are so susceptible to self delusion, I believe it is incredibly important to search for answers beyond mere intuition and dogma. If that sounds like a blanket denial of the supernatural, it is not meant to. And obviously intuition has value. I just wish people would be a little more sceptical in their thinking.
“And obviously intuition has value. I just wish people would be a little more sceptical in their thinking.”
And I just wish people would utilize their natural intuitive ability. 🙂
I’d say we lean in different directions, but I think we basically agree. Other than that, I’ll let you have the last word.
Cheers amd cheerio.
Haha, sure. Toodlepip! ??
😀
When I saw the “voicercize” one, I couldn’t stop thinking about karaoke — or student vocalists showing all what they could do — which is about the same. Sounds excruciating.
“Or on religious experience, as you yourself mentioned. Faith isn’t the same as personal experience, including religious experience – unless you assume such experiences are nothing but faith. Faith implies acceptance of some other source of knowingness or truth than one’s own, direct experience.”
I guess it depends on how well you believe the mind can be trusted. I use the word “faith” to mean “belief”, or “belief based on conviction rather than proof.” Our perceptions are formed and filtered through many layers of interpretation, susceptible to all kinds of cognitive biases, prior agreements and human conditioning. Some say we are the product of our experiences but imho that’s kinda reductive – we are the product of our interpretations, our beliefs, the meanings we ourselves attach, whether consciously or unconsciously. (One could argue this is actually the basic premise of Hubbard’s therapy).
This also highlights the value of logic (and of the scientific method). It is a tool to support, verify and enhance the “truth value” of interpretation. If I accept the value of a proposition, with no effective means of evaluating it, I am taking a leap of faith. I am essentially taking someone else’s faith…on faith. There’s a certain frivolity in that but it doesn’t necessarily prevent intelligent debate. So long as we’re all on the same page.
“I guess it depends on how well you believe the mind can be trusted….If I accept the value of a proposition, with no effective means of evaluating it, I am taking a leap of faith. I am essentially taking someone else’s faith…on faith.”
It’s quite a stretch to apply all that to one’s own experience and the observations of changes in oneself that followed I guess it depends on how well you believe the mind can be trusted. I use the word “faith” to mean “belief”, or “belief based on conviction rather than proof.”the experience, which is what I wrote in my previous comment (but for some reason you aren’t keeping the thread together by posting under the last comment so we can easily refer to it). Added to that is the fact that the changes pcs make are sometimes observable to others around them as well.
Besides, the idea of “Don’t believe your own experiences” is kind of scary as a general rule – sort of like gaslighting.
I do realize that many people have so much faith (yes, faith) in science and its own dogma that effectively is their religion! Science sometimes serves as a good example of “taking someone else’s faith…on faith,” as you put it.
Something funky happened on the second paragraph of my last post. It should have read:
“I guess it depends on how well you believe the mind can be trusted….If I accept the value of a proposition, with no effective means of evaluating it, I am taking a leap of faith. I am essentially taking someone else’s faith…on faith.”
It’s quite a stretch to apply all that to one’s own experience and the observations of changes in oneself that followed, which is what I wrote in my previous comment (but for some reason you aren’t keeping the thread together by posting under the last comment so we can easily refer to it). Added to that is the fact that the changes pcs make are sometimes observable to others around them as well.
Besides, the idea of “Don’t believe your own experiences” is kind of scary as a general rule – sort of like gaslighting.
I do realize that many people have so much faith (yes, faith) in science and its own dogma that IT is effectively their religion! Science sometimes serves as a good example of “taking someone else’s faith…on faith,” as you put it.
Very interesting re: the Columbus ‘ideal org’. Pulling public records from the Franklin County Auditor website, nothing of a construction/improvement nature is going on at either 30 N High or 1266 Dublin . Last permit pulled for the Dublin location, which still appears to be unoccupied, was last November for storm drains.
Also worthy of observation is how Scientology is going after expansion in both Columbus and Cincinnati, when there is virtually no scientology activity in Ohio north of I-70 until you get to Detroit.
Yep, 20x 0 is still 0.
Thanks for that bit of data digging. It looks to me like the Columbus org is getting geared up for an “opening” probably next year, after Detroit this fall and probably Kansas City then or in the spring. Chicago also appears to be among the next in line.
Scientology’s MO is to do “MEST” things like permitting and work last minute, so I’m not totally surprised that we’re seeing promo about Columbus, and no sign of construction beginning yet, if an opening is as relatively far off as sometime next year. But it also seems that sometimes Scientology’s fundraising falls short and their priorities for subsidies from outside funds shift – one of the reasons they don’t commit to long-range construction schedules – and so an org that seems like it’s getting focus, may end up languishing.
Speaking of glitches, Austin is one I’m wondering about, because this spring they moved out of their old building that they’re renovating – one of the few cases where that has been done, along with San Diego, and the infamously moribund project in Toronto – but reportedly have done nothing more than a bit of work on the parking lot. I figure that either that renovated facility is also planned to open next year and work will have to start soon, or it’s one of the cases like Toronto where they got in too deep with “postulate” thinking and put the cart before the horse, and there’s no way to know how long it will drag out.
PM- Thanks for the feedback. I will be traveling to the west coast in about a month and spending a few days in Santa Barbara. I’ll have a chance to ‘recon’ the SB location, as we must pass it on the way to get McConnell’s Ice Cream.
KTBug, it would definitely be very interesting to hear about such a recon. I don’t have much of an impression of the state of SB these days, but I think it was always one of the smaller and more marginal orgs, propped up by a few wealthy members, and now is one of the small and failing orgs that are among the last finally getting set up for “ideal” facilities, requiring lots of outside help. I believe they are still in their classic old downtown building, awaiting – perhaps not too happily – a move to an “ideal” facility to be made by renovating an awfully ugly older building bought in an office park far to the South closer to Ventura.
There was a piece about SB a while back, and starting about halfway down in the comments a number of people with personal experience of the org and its history chip in, including Terra:
https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-santa-barbara-org/
It sounds like their ideal org campaign has been one of the drawn out and gruesome ones, with the first tranche of money raised lost in the the Reed Slatkin fraud. More recently renderings of an attractive modern deco-style office building were used in promo pieces, but they apparently could not raise funds to complete that purchase, and now have bought what is possibly the ugliest Scientology building to date, presumably because it was the cheapest option.
“I believe the opposites that were audited and run out were the ones that had read on the meter – which meant they were charged and thus able to cause reactivity, i.e. cause the person to be at effect of them.”
Show me. What credible evidence do you have that suggests a meter read = “charge” = a thing “able to cause reactivity”? Or is this just dogma?
“This so-called “conquering” by Hubbard, in and of itself, doesn’t translate to “thirst for dominance.” That’s a leap of logic apparently due to preconceived notions and not scientific either.”
Your talk of logic and science in the same breath as auditing trillion-year old implants amuses me greatly.
Nonetheless, it is my belief that Hubbard lacked a meaningful understanding of the Tao, and eastern philosophy as a whole. If we dig a little deeper, we find that these forces are connected, that they cannot exist without the other. You cannot know strength without knowing weakness. Inhale, exhale. Night, day. Limited self, ideal self. Eastern practices acknowledge this duality and the need for balance and self acceptance. All is one.
Hubbard rejected this concept, emphasising singularity, individuation and conquest. Ideal self. Certainty over doubt. Pride over humility. Grandeur over modesty. Indifference over sympathy. Action over inaction. Order over chaos. Cause over effect. He blamed his hangups on ancient slavers and, eventually, invisible beings, distinct from self, that needed to be extracted like parasites. Yes, this is dominance. All part of the quest for “knowing and willing cause over life, thought, matter, energy, space and time.”
mwesten: “Your talk of logic and science in the same breath as auditing trillion-year old implants amuses me greatly.”
Perhaps unlike yourself, I am not one who believes that only the scientific method is valid and that only science can discover or evolve truth. In addition, just as Hubbard is accused of not being scientific, the same can be said of those who deny the workability of auditing – and do so without any scientific study or evidence to back them up either.
In any case, according to my own experience on different flows, I believe much of auditing does work, albeit not 100% of the time. I would say there have been many who could attest to having resolved in auditing some issue they once had which never returned.
That said, I would agree with you that Hubbard’s path was intended to bring about dominance – but not just for himself; rather, for the individual in general. I do agree it turned out to be a wrong path – overall – as it resulted in building up the ego.
Nevertheless, I’ve seen that a number of modern spiritual teachers who teach nonduality have come to see that a person’s “shadows” – which is one way of describing what could also be called “charged areas” – can be, and often are, a significant barrier on their spiritual path. These teachers are in favor of using various methods to get such barriers out of the way. Psychotherapy and spirituality are being practiced together more and more, and Hubbard may have been the first to do so. His methods still seem to me to be more effective and efficient than any others I know of.
“Perhaps unlike yourself, I am not one who believes that only the scientific method is valid and that only science can discover or evolve truth.”
I have no problem with faith or religious experience…but rarely do scientologists ever admit this is to be the basis of their arguments. Reasoned discourse typically relies on robust propositions that can be supported and verified. Without evidence, we must rely on faith. And I’m happy to discuss matters of faith. I find it fascinating.
“In addition, just as Hubbard is accused of not being scientific, the same can be said of those who deny the workability of auditing – and do so without any scientific study or evidence to back them up either.”
Yes. It’s a point of logic. The burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim. Absence of evidence does not necessarily mean evidence of absence. Yet without anything else to go on one must revert back to faith.
“In any case, according to my own experience on different flows, I believe much of auditing does work, albeit not 100% of the time. I would say there have been many who could attest to having resolved in auditing some issue they once had which never returned.”
Define your terms. What do you mean by “work”? Simply claiming scientology/auditing “works” suggests it does everything Hubbard ever claimed. Ever. That it may “provide therapeutic benefit” is imho a more credible position. If that is indeed what you’re implying then we are in agreement.
“That said, I would agree with you that Hubbard’s path was intended to bring about dominance – but not just for himself; rather, for the individual in general. I do agree it turned out to be a wrong path – overall – as it resulted in building up the ego.”
Agreed. I would add that there are also elements that have the potential to induce symptoms associated with the schizophrenic spectrum, particularly body thetan exorcism. I found Geir’s view on this to be particularly insightful as it reframes those levels as a form of self-reconstructive therapy rather than something that may encourage psychosis. If nothing else, this perspective may prove useful in helping messed-up OTs coming out of the Co$ (see https://bit.ly/2kkVrAQ for a somewhat related but imho interesting article by therapist Ron Unger about treating ‘schizophrenia’ as dissociation).
“Nevertheless, I’ve seen that a number of modern spiritual teachers who teach nonduality have come to see that a person’s “shadows” – which is one way of describing what could also be called “charged areas” – can be, and often are, a significant barrier on their spiritual path.”
It’s all about balance, imho. If your focus is only ever on the shadows you’ll never see the sun shining down upon you.
“These teachers are in favor of using various methods to get such barriers out of the way. Psychotherapy and spirituality are being practiced together more and more, and Hubbard may have been the first to do so.”
Hmm…I’d argue Carl Jung and William James are the more likely pioneers but hey ho. ?
“I have no problem with faith or religious experience…Without evidence, we must rely on faith.”
Or on religious experience, as you yourself mentioned. Faith isn’t the same as personal experience, including religious experience – unless you assume such experiences are nothing but faith. Faith implies acceptance of some other source of knowingness or truth than one’s own, direct experience.
“Define your terms. What do you mean by ‘work’? Simply claiming scientology/auditing ‘works’ suggests it does everything Hubbard ever claimed. Ever. That it may ‘provide therapeutic benefit’ is imho a more credible position. If that is indeed what you’re implying then we are in agreement.”
We are. And I did express the idea of many pc’s “having resolved in auditing some issue they once had which never returned.”
“Hmm…I’d argue Carl Jung and William James are the more likely pioneers [than Hubbard] but hey ho. ”
Point taken. I think the two of them are primarily known in the field of psychology, however, as opposed to the spiritual. But I’ve never gotten around to learning very much about them, and I should. 🙂
Thanks for posting all the flyers with the phone numbers displayed to call. Because I have SO many questions and find the need to call all of these Scientology folks to help me with the answers I need.
My inquiries usually require that I have to call back again and again and again to have lengthy conversations with multiple people over several days but I’m making progress! Sometimes they’re not so helpful though and even hang up the phone on me. ? That’s not nice!
All of the online information I’ve found out about Scientology at helpful sites like Xenu.net has also been very beneficial when I call.
The sad Boston org didn’t make the funnies, but they were in the news this week, with a new proposed deal to redevelop the Alexandra Hotel property they have been saddled with – meaning that the proposal announced a year ago did indeed fall through, as I had suspected. More on the history of that and the long-running real estate saga here:
https://www.bisnow.com/boston/news/hotel/the-alexandra-hotel-once-again-has-a-redevelopment-proposal-91562
We’ll have to see if Scientology fares any better with this proposal, which I assume is contingent on the developer getting getting necessary financing and approval before it can close, as the last one was. From the comments to the article, there will be historic preservation opposition to this new plan because it involves completely gutting the interior.
Scientology apparently needs the money out of this first of two buildings they bought to be “ideal” org facilities, to renovate the dated office park property that they have since purchased, while in the meantime they have been stuck for years in inconveniently located “temporary” quarters. They’ve apparently so mis-managed this property deal, including having had to demolish an adjacent smaller building that was deteriorating severely, that they’re having trouble even getting their money back out of it, though Boston’s real estate market is thriving. It’s one of the worst cases of botched planning, along with essentially losing significant amounts of the money extracted from members that typically in many cases involved unreasonable sacrifice if not financial ruin.
I drive past the so called boston ORG/office building in Brighton Massachusetts everyday on my to work. The street is a short cut when having to avoid the mass pike. The org is surrounded by colleges and universities harvard , boston university, Mit any many more. Its a straight up vertical plain old office building located on a not so busy street. I can picture Scientology tring to get their hands on some college kids only to be rejected. CoS had a small building in Quincy mass that They were renting and people wanted NOTHING to do with them. The cos looked like a fool in Quincy and Everyone I spoke to thought they were a cult. Then the Cos bought the Alexandria hotel that is ready to tip over. All boston needs is one more good blizzard and there she blows. The hotel has zero parking and is on a street loaded with crime and heroin addicts. Nexfix is filming as we speak in that area called methadone mile. But across the street is a middle to upper class with a large and strong lbtgq community. Scientology looks foolish in boston, they infiltrated our schools in the 80s/90s and have zero chances of tring again. I can picture our boy mayor marty walsh avoiding any of their lame ribbon cutting. Bostonians are very strong in giving back to the community and I fear scientogy will only use that to their advantage.
Seriously DM tried to lure David Beckham into Scientology? ? I don’t think he and Victoria lived in the US very long …maybe a few yrs. Playing in LA. Bad idea Dave..
“How PR tech can safe-point any new area you want to disseminate into.” That is so wrong on a number of levels it makes you cringe.
He’s not a DJ Mike. Those are Synthesizers. He wants to be Chick Corea.
Whoa! Two clears and they’re falling all over themselves? I wonder what would happen if they had 3 Clears? The cheering alone would be defining. Let’s not even think about 4.
Yep, Scientology is quite the trip hey?
On a magic carpet ride…
Done, Sir!…
Oh, Ohio… more like Done Goofed!
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I always love the bullshit ramblings of LRH on these pieces. He had his gullible audience held in a rapturous trance as he free associated his muddled thoughts. He really must have felt superior as he spewed out his crap, amazed that these fools actually were buying into it all. No wonder he could never wipe that smug look off his jowled face.
Anything Tubby said was taken to be a Truth of the Universe, even (or particularly) when it made little sense. In this case, when we played the game for HIS pleasure, we’d already lost pretty much everything, and it kept getting worse. IMO, I didn’t start truly living until I broke out of the game that pleasured him and played for ME & MINE. Thus, he must have been thinking himself mostly dead when he farted that drek as he NEVER did anything except for his own pleasure.
Oh man, Jere, thank god you had a mind to think for yourself. Glad you are out!
I’ve come to the conclusion there are two distinctive personalities that become involved with cults: narcissists and humanitarians. The narcissists will continue to be seduced with status and will stay, no matter what; they have never been, or ever will be, concerned with any-thing/body but themselves. The humanitarians will leave when they wake up and realize the Lie; it’s been happening for decades. Tick, tock . . . . just a matter of time.
Marne,
There is at least one more group: The Anosognasian believers, for whom there is no hope.
Isn’t that an Amazon tribe?
Aren’t they affiliated with ‘jungle calls anonymous’?
Jim, outSTANDing word! I’m a word freak and not often stumped, but I had to look up “anosognasian”: (a symptom of severe mental illness experienced by some that impairs a person’s ability to understand and perceive his or her illness.)
Look THAT one up, Scilons!!
Had to look it up Jim and it’s a keeper.
Marne within your categories, narcissists and humanitarians, to me there are some who may fit into both, the big donors and the celebs. If, at some point in time, any of them have an epiphany that they are being used, and actually face the facts of what this cult has been offering them, magic beans (they are the cash cows here) do you think the entire empire will crumble?
Don’t forget the sociopath, any organization that provides chances for positions of power over others, and chances to manipulate, will definitely attract them.
The entire structure of scientology is custom built for the rising of sociopaths along the pyramid of pain. Just look at this criminal organization from a bird’s eye view. Shit flows down the pyramid, brothers and sisters. Scientology is covered in it.
Desperation seems to in every Idle Morgue. I wonder what they do for fun?
Fun is outlawed in the Cult. One smile an you’re a goner.
So if we get people in to laugh that’s a good thing!
Let alone masturbating. Scientology, the religion that simply makes anything you do not endorsed by Hubbard’s and/or command intention – a crime.
It’s a tough universe, that of a Scientologist, trying to salvage this sector from itself. Every action not benefiting Scioland’s coffers is a criminal act against life itself per the Cof$. Peculiar mindset hey? Religious drones all buzzing around the definitions of the words from a dead guy – now, there’s cause over life for you.
Will admit one thing though, Scientology sure teaches you how to be really busy doing absolutely nothing and always hungry and tired while doing it.
I guaran-fucking-tee you, the little COB David Miscavige masturbates.
Guaran-fucking-teed.
Try denying that, little ecclesiastical leader.
I agree, WAYC. LRH says the criminal does what he accuses others of. DM has added masturbation questions on all the 6 month sec checks for those on OT VII and it is also an eligibility question to get onto OT V. I flat out refused to run it and told them it is not an overt. I said that it is not against my mores or moral values to masturbate, therefore it will not read as an overt and I refuse to run it as an overt. They didn’t know what to do with me at that point. No one had stood up to them before on this. So they sent me to ethics and I stood down the young little MAA guy too. Yea me!
Yes indeed – Yea to you! Would have loved to see the expression on that MAA.
These poor young boys that get appointed to be an MAA only because they are too young to have lived much of a life and thus haven’t gotten into trouble or have overts, and so thus are “HCO Qual’d” so that they can be an MAA. But here are young boys in late teens early 20’s who have big time libido and sex drive at that age, and can’t masturbate, cant’ even kiss a girl unless they are engaged (SO rules), and so I think they want to end the conversation as soon as possible so as to not get turned on which would likely happen given their enforced celibacy. I feel bad for them.
To: WhatAreYourCrimes
From: David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: Whether or not I masturbate.
I wouldn’t be too concerned about my peccadiloes! It’s you ‘fellas’ out there that should be worried about your own! And for the record, no, I do not masturbate! I am so
in-ethics on the 2D it isn’t funny! My ethics level as well as my level of confront are beyond what any of you mere mortals can comprehend!
Oh, and if anyone has the audacity to bring up Shelley, it will be a one way trip to the RPF, which doesn’t exist at the present, for that unfortunate individual!
You have been warned!
ML
Dave.
Why is that? I would think seeing those ” in” being happy and enjoying life would be good PR. Of course after you’re totally broke your happiness would probably be fake. They always look happy in the ads. ☺
A Sense of Humor is a Comm Evable event in the church of scientology. It’s Out KSW.
Mary , yes, and a sense of humor is called, “joking and degrading.”
Do they have a public performance license to show “Raiders of the Lost Ark” in a public setting? I see that it is still listed in Paramount Pictures database.
https://www.paramount.com/theatrical-library/tags/122/actionadventure
It would be a shame if someone like me accidentally reported this to the FBI. Oops, I did.
Free viewing, but donations are encouraged. Not illegal, be sure, the pressure to donate will be immense.
Actually a public showing of a copyrighted movie is illegal whether or not you charge.
https://www.wlu.edu/general-counsel/answer-center/copyright-and-intellectual-property/copyright-guidelines-for-showing-movies-and-other-audiovisual-works
For some reason it blows me away the naked, un-disguised paying for “status”. It’s like trying to buy “class”. And I have often wondered what the record is for “rocketing up the bridge”.
Mike,
Off topic question please. On August 4 the Ft. Harrison was to have a Purple Heart Day banquet. Do you know if anybody showed up? Just curious.
Cinema under the stars at the CC – drug free, marijuana free and alcohol free but not cigarette free? Ha! Cigarettes are the thing that annoy and compromise everyone around the smoker – but I forgot that LRH said that they are not harmful.
Fatso: Smoking doesn’t cause cance. Not smoking enough causes cancer. And down down the rabbit hole we go…
Marijuana free!!! Blasphemy!
You got it right there. Of all the drugs, cigarette smoking does the most amount of harm with the least amount of effect. Geezers, if you’re going to fuck yourself up health-wise you may as well at least get a buzz out of it. Cigarettes & tobacco make ya stink as well. Hubbard wasn’t so much addicted (which he was) to nicotine but to about being right in all things. His attitude & treatment of his own crew was just as devastating, let alone those further down the trough, you know, people – the public!
Yawn I was a smoker for the first twenty years of my young adulthood. Started a 15. Then I quit for good. Whatever else he was addicted to, Hubbard was addicted to nicotine. NOBODY smokes regularly for any other reason. You put up with the unpleasant factors because you crave the nicotine. I used to get a kick out of the OTs who smoked and explained how it didn’t hurt them because they were OT8 or whatever. I knew they were FOS so I’d have a little fun. Whenever I heard an OT or a Clear say how smoking caused him or her no ill effects, I’d say, “Good! It doesn’t hurt you! That’s great! So, how does it help you?”
I smoked too, back in the day. It seemed to be an almost mandatory requirement for the military. Such a boring activity sometimes.
However, I have seen it mentioned a few times now that the effect one experiences from smoking tobacco is one of ‘satisfaction’. Not satisfied “about something” but simply ‘satisfaction’ itself. Seems a pretty good summary of the mental side of the habit imo.
The seriously unpleasant aspect of imbibing in tobacco is what it does to the lining of your veins and arteries. At the cardiac section of medicine, the first question they ask you is almost always along the lines of do you or did you smoke?
Hubbard was a product of his times as well as being delusional. So much for his insight into life, and a stroke got him too. See what smoking can do for you?
Interesting, Yawn. Have to say though that as regards cigarette smoking it was ubiquitous back in the day. No one thought anything of it except a few “health nuts”. We were all lighting up, everywhere, constantly. Except on the city buses. Back then we had a joke; you’re freezing/sweating/tired and you want the bus to come? Light up a cigarette 🙂 Today, at least where I live, its not common anymore. A bar or restaurant can be packed with people but you’ll only see 2 or 3 outside at any given time. Possibly in the poor rural areas of America will you find a higher ratio of smokers but in those areas you’ll also find a higher incidence of alcohol consumption and drug abuse as well.
Well, scientologists are bloody idiots, there is no question about that, is there?
FOS – Now there’s an acronym I don’t need explained to me (maybe because I use the related ‘POS’ myself a lot.
🙂 bix.
Aqua, how did they explain spending money on cigarettes that could have been better used for planetary clearing? 😉
Ha! Good question! Just guessing: Probably smoking was the “other fish to fry” way to spend money that the OTs DIDN’T get made wrong about, for the simple reason that all the Registrars smoked!
When I was in it appeared that a lot of Sea Ogres were cigarette smokers. On their (optimiistically) $50 per week, how can the rank and file of them afford to smoke?
SOMEBODY please puhleez I’m begging now answer this question about how SO can afford to smoke because I CANNOT understand how this is possible on a $50 per week salary given their exorbitant cost – last time I was in the DISCOUNT pharmacy a pack cost $1250 – I haven’t smoked in decades but I was curious so I asked and was shocked at the answer. Especially Sea Orgres but Jesus how does ANYONE afford to smoke nowadays? .
Aqua, a lot of folks “rolled their own”. Cheaper that way. And no pesky filters to ruin the experience.
At the Gold Base there are Event Crew (the sound, stage and lighting guys that fly to the events). Someone in the Lighting crew had a very active smuggling business, buying cheap cigarettes in duty-free or on Caribbean islands and selling them at Gold.
Thank you very much for this insight, Bruce!
It at least answers how Gold Base people sustain their expensive nicotine habits. Rolling their own, buying black market tobacco smuggled in from the Caribbean…right. And, of course, all for the greatest good. Yes! All in alignment with the Sea Org purpose of putting ethics in on the planet.
Man oh man, it never stops. It just never stops!!!!!
At Flag, the smokers rule the world. They crowd around the front door of the Flag AO when it rains. If you’re trying to walk out the front doors, you have to hold your breath and wade through the huddle of public smokers. When you go back in, the smoke wafts in so that the entire lobby area stinks like smoke. It floats up so that in the mezzanine waiting area above the lobby, (waiting area for the MAA) it all stinks like smoke.
The course rooms smelled like smoke because windows were open (for fresh air?) and they let in the the smoke from the smokers in the pool area, the canteen area, and other areas down below.
There was some small IAS office or something below one of the course rooms, they’d be out on their patio smoking up a storm, and it came into the course room.
HGC waiting areas on the various floors have balconies, each with 2 round tables and some chairs. It was impossible to sit out there at all, the smokers go out to sit and smoke up constantly.
The SO staff can be seen “taking a walk” to have their smoke break.
Don’t bother writing it up or pointing it out… most of the SO guys smoke, including the Host, and they don’t give a shit.
The SO staff can be seen “taking a walk” to have their smoke break.
I saw people walking around vaping indoors.
I think smokes in Florida were cheaper than some other places. I don’t know how they afford it.
RVW, thanks very to you also for this info even though you didn’t know the answer to my question.
Everything you’ve just shared makes me give fervent thanks “in a new unit of time” that for one reason or another – whether was lack of money or lack of time – I never made it to Flag.
Aside from the corruption of the tech, the 3-swing FN nightmare, aside from the indefatigable reg’ging for the IAS, aside from what has been shared about even auditors being reg’ges at Flag, you’ve given me one MORE reason to thank my lucky stars and the angel over my shoulder that conspired to keep me from ever arriving at this dreadful place!
You’re welcome. … and…yup! You were lucky (and smart) to avoid Flag.
Flag has ever been touted as THE place to do auditing and training, and even when I was in I found this to be BS. LA area was much better, and even my own class V org was better in some ways.
Flag training was quickied and the auditing was below AOLA. Out of about 10 auditors, I had “wins” with 3 of them. The others were awful. And..that’s when I was a true believer and could wins off a soft breeze and a dust mote.
Lucky, Rip, not smart. Either I didn’t have the money, or I had the money but couldn’t leave work. Back in the day I thought it was very UNLucky. I wanted to go, believed I should, considered it a huge outpoint on my part that I was never able to ” make it go right” to arrive at Flag! That I never made it there was sheer luck, zero brains.
That’s what amazed me about being on staff! All the Sea Org folks walking around with a cancer stick dangling from their lips. Thanks to this blog I now know why!
When I was in my teens, 20’s, 30s, it seemed like most people smoked. It was just the thing to do. No more. Hardly anyone i know smokes anymore. Nowadays it is so NOT the thing to do.
Ok, this officially ends my Make Wrong Rant about Sea Ogre Smokers in particular and cigarette smokers in general.
None of these are about going up the bridge. It’s all fundraising or seminars to make money. It used to be that promo was for telling people to do Scientology.
Oh well.
Maybe Scientology doesn’t work or isn’t worth doing.
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Both.
It’s only worth doing in perfect surroundings, evidently.
I was perfectly surrounded once. But, they tied me up and left. It took me 3,days to get unsurrounded. My BTs couldn’t stop laughing.
Ear plugs might help.
The BTs are inside me so that wouldn’t work.
No, for them silly.
Scientology was a fringe movement based on 19th Century Occult ideas. It will never expand into the general population. Sad to say that their only hope is to come clean and admit that Hubbard was Luciferian. They could then possibly expand into the fringe market now held by the Satanists. Lucifer was not such a dumb leader as Miscavige. Miscavige even screwed up the image of Lucifer as the “light bearer”. Sad final days for Scientology.
His early occultic development was the foundation for Dianetics and Scientology which now that you mention it, does look a lot like Luciferianism… interesting observation. I did notice that he also selected things that “worked” for him like hypnotism and carried it into his organizations. The future of Scientology is like a really, really bad movie…. it will always be there but no one goes…
Yes, the more I study the Occult, especially the neo Platonists, the more I am convinced that Hubbard read some of these thinkers but hardly mentioned them. Plotinus was certainly a model for Hubbard but Plotinus was mild. I read Iamblichus recently whose works survived from about the 3rd century AD. He clearly speaks of exteriorization and his circular writing style is a lot like Hubbard. I think Rudolf Steiner who is more modern also wrote a lot like Hubbard just going in circles. What interests me now about the Occult is that in Western Literature you get this idea of flying spirits and lesser spirits. Iamblichus was clearly talking about OT’s and BT’s when he designed his cosmology. It is clear to me now that Hubbard was especially ignorant about the mind having been confused by his early occult studies. I think back to all of the auditing I received and see that it only gave me a temporary high based on these hypnotic occult principles. I remember a lawyer that I audited who said to me after several sessions. “I like that you are asking me questions because it make me feel special. But I do not feel changes in my basic mind.” Hubbard seemed to put his occult framework into my head and then seemed to give me commands to work with it to try to solve problems. It never really worked. All I ever did was pay for each new level expecting something big and it never happened.
Yes, Scientology never happens, no matter how hard you try to make it happen. In fact the harder you try the worse off you get. Kind of like a carpenter who lost his saw.
Crowley believed an exploration of past lives was only ever meant to aid the understanding of one’s basic purpose (or will, tao, path, etc.). A simple means to an end. “Love is the law, love under will.” That Hubbard ground his way to quadrillion year extremes, corrupting all love that ever came his way, suggests perhaps a profound personal struggle to understand his. Despite his Luciferian claims in the OT8.0 material. From his Affirmations, all the way up to his admission of failure just weeks before his death, I don’t think he ever truly succeeded.
I despise Tubby, but he did create an organization worth billions that survived his death. Unfortunately.
Yep, that is the abusive truth of it hey?
Yes, Kyle, it was a wealthy, expanding organization. It is contracting today but it used to collect a lot more money, like $2 million a week at flag with 10 new IAS whales flushed out and plucked, but as we know, those days are gone and they will not return because Scientology is dying from ITS OWN WEIGHT. A weight that Tubby put into it with lies upon lies upon lies upon lies.
Is wealth the ultimate measure of success? I’m not convinced Hubbard even believed that. His primary aim was power (rooted in a feeling of weakness and emotional insecurity – ref affirmations). He invested so much into it that he saw little else. If perception is filtered by our beliefs then it could be said that we only really see what we aim for. If your goal is darkness and dominion then you will only focus on the dark and dominating tools to facilitate that goal.
Hubbard himself said that you get what you put your attention on. He just didn’t understand the consequences.
Crowley’s “Will” was really no different to Lao Tzu’s “Tao”. The pursuit of meaning. The road between yin and yang. A way to bring yourself into balance with your true nature. But where taoists see opposing forces as complementary, as unifying, Hubbard saw them as something to be conquered, as ancient booby traps that need to be audited out. Such was his thirst for dominance.
In spite of his wealth and his myriad of followers, his quest for power took him down a dark, corrupted path that ultimately led to his psychological and spiritual undoing.
“But where taoists see opposing forces as complementary, as unifying, Hubbard saw them as something to be conquered, as ancient booby traps that need to be audited out. Such was his thirst for dominance.”
I believe the opposites that were audited and run out were the ones that had read on the meter – which meant they were charged and thus able to cause reactivity, i.e.cause the person to be at effect of them. This so-called “conquering” by Hubbard, in and of itself, doesn’t translate to “thirst for dominance.” That a leap of logic apparently due to preconceived notions and not scientific either.
The problem with Hubbard was how bad a student he was. He hardly could handle pedestrian H.S. subjects, failed most of his university courses, and then promulgated his shredded misunderstanding as he glanced at others’ research into the mind, the Human condition, and the occult. And if we — who had no problem with the subjects he couldn’t begin to master— should call his blatherings “unreadable”, WE were the ones at fault for not instantly recognizing his brilliance and crystal clarity, but had to re-read the materials as often as was necessary to come up with SOME translation that might make sense in some alternate universe
Just for discussion, not everyone would be seeking changes in their mind when they engage in a philosophy, practice, therapy or a religion. People have different expectations. I know, scientology is a cult but that realization comes from hindsight after you’re out.
I would argue that to learn anything is to “change your mind”. It is both purpose and result.
I agree. The way the lawyer worded it, he didn’t feel any changes in his “basic mind”, it sounds like he was expecting an epiphany. In scn I think that was called a “hidden standard”. For example, “If my knee gets better then I know it works.” Small point.
George, I doubt that Hubbard actually read much himsefl. I had long wondered how he got his ideas, which seemed both selected from a depth of material, and yet sometimes surprisingly shallow in their understanding, and came to the conclusion that he hung out with a lot of people who were well-read, and was adept at casually adapting ideas. This was pretty well confirmed when I ran across a quote from his “never had” second wife, who said he didn’t have much of a bent for reading and relied on others, including her for his understanding of Korzybski – Science and Sanity is one in particular that he didn’t seem to have a full grasp of even though he used ideas from it, and that I couldn’t imagine him having the patience with others’ ideas his way through. I also found an interview with Ava Berner talking about the early 1960s at Saint Hill, in which she said Hubbard got all his ideas from others; interestingly, she also said that the idea for “study tech” came just from her then-husband Charles suggesting that students were confused struggling because Hubbard was using re-definitions of words and neologisms that they were unfamiliar with, and that he needed to educate them on the meanings of words as he was using them.
I previously had the idea that Luciferianism was the same as Satanism. Wikipedia has a summary. The Introductory sentences are:
“Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition, influenced by Gnosticism, usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a liberator, a guardian or guiding spirit, or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.”
Hubbard as Lucifer is definitely a different twist to the subject.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
That’s exactly how Hubbard portrayed Lucifer in the “infamous” OT 8 bulletin, along with the idea that Lucifer was the anti-Christ who was in opposition to the false God Jehovah – the God who forbade knowledge and enlightenment. But all that gets misrepresented by people who want to read into it their own meanings, or forward propaganda.
marildi, off topic, but I’d be interested in your take on the following:
In Genesis, first it says that man was created out of God’s image and likeness. Almost immediately following that, it says that God created man out of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. Two highly contradictory “facts”.
I’ve never read the aforementioned OT8 bulletin about Lucifer, nor do I know anything about Gnosticism but I’ve been meaning to read up on a period that interests me a lot – the early Christian period between the death of Jesus and the Council of Nicea (spelling?)
But until then, as far as you know, would (or does) Gnosticism disavow the 2nd explanation of the creation of Adam, i.e from dust, etc? And then there’s the forbidding of Adam and Eve from eating from “The Tree of Knowledge” which I always thought was stupid and absolutely guaranteed to make them curious enough to just HAVE TO disobey, you know? 🙂
“In Genesis, first it says that man was created out of God’s image and likeness. Almost immediately following that, it says that God created man out of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. Two highly contradictory ‘facts’.
I don’t see the two facts as contradictory, but I don’t want to just give you my opinion. If I were word clearing you, I might have you apply the piece of study tech where you consider “How IS it that way?” and “How ISN’T it that way?” – back and forth between the two until something jars loose. This usually works like a charm!
Actually, the way you worded it, using the phrase “created out of” in both statements, might be the key. That phrase contains the idiom “out of” – which can be used in very different ways. Collins dictionary has quite a few definitions, with examples, to choose from. Here’s the link: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/out-of ;
“I’ve never read the aforementioned OT 8 bulletin about Lucifer, nor do I know anything about Gnosticism but I’ve been meaning to read up on a period that interests me a lot – the early Christian period between the death of Jesus and the Council of Nicea (spelling?)”
A while back I read Elaine Pagels’ book *The Gnostic Gospels.* Very interesting reading, and I’m pretty sure it would answer your interesting questions.
Marildi, thank you for your thoughtful and detailed reply to my questions. Interesting how you consider the two creation theories in Genesis as being non contradictory. Very interesting. My quotes were paraphrased as I believe the actual text just says “from”. But then, the Old Testament was first written in ancient Hebrew. In any event I will follow your suggestions including the Pagel’s book. Heathen that I am, I’ve still always been interested in religion as a study if not a practice. Thanks again 🙂
You’re welcome, Aqua. And I knew you had paraphrased those two ideas from Genesis. The word “from” expresses the ideas well – but I think it has different meanings in each. The way you had worded the two seemed to me to communicate the meaning that man was “created in the image of God out of dust” – or, said the other way around, man was “created out of dust in the image of God.” Maybe the word to clear is “image”?
I’m with you on religion being an interesting subject. One of my all-time favorite books is *The World’s Great Religions,* by a religious-studies scholar named Huston Smith. Actually, I read the original edition of his book, which was titled *The Religions of Man*, but I think the content of the two editions is the same except that the new edition includes a section at the end on indigenous religions. I’m sure you can find one or both of these editions at your local library, if you want to. Another really great book is one that Richard (who posts here) recommended, titled *Buddhism: A Way of Life and Thought*, which I got pretty cheap on amazon.com
Happy reading! 🙂
I’ve looked up Gnosticism three or four times and the definition never seems to stick. I guess if I want to get a grip on it I need to investigate further and read a couple of specific beliefs.
Anyhow, gnosis comes from the Greek “knowledge” and the verb form meaning “to know” and is a King’s English word.
gnosis – knowledge of spiritual thing, esp. a secret and superior knowledge limited to an elite few, such as the Gnostics claimed to have.
People claiming to have secret and superior knowledge are likely to piss off other people. Damn elitists, haha. My gnosis is better than yours.
I’ll settle for my gnosis is good enough. You can have your gnosis and I’ll have mine. (word games – lol)
Thanks, Richard. As I understand, the Gnostics proliferated in the early Christian period before Nicea. And there were other Christian sects as well before Constantine had the leaders converge to decide, once and for all, what “Christianity” REALLY was going to be. I find it fascinating that a group of human beings got together to compare notes, to cherry pick thru the various spiritual beliefs and pick what the majority of them thought would be best for the rest of the world to believe and practice! Hilarious, actually. This is just another reason why I’ve long considered organized religion a complete waste of time – for me. But of course, whatever floats your boat and to each his own, etc.
That wiki article also mentions,
[“Lucifer” was a publication edited by the influential occultist Helena Blavatsky.]
That gang sure did a whole lot of “thinking” back then.
Don’t like to think too much – it makes me think too much – it keeps my mind on my mind (haha)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6461VfxdBSw
That Lron quote about playing but not playing was playing with my mind. Which was just what it was supposed to do. Was Lron playing with a full deck? I think his deck had a lot of extra jokers.
That quote was a long winding road to nowhere! Ridiculous really
Do what I do when one of his quotes shows up. Furrow your brow, read the first couple or three words, and notice it already doesn’t make sense. Furrow some more, sigh a little, and trudge on. Fall asleep. Wake up. Give up, and see what the others say it means.
You know I’m not really stupid. I taught college, but sheesh, his drivel is worse than anything my freshmen ever thought up. And bear in mind, I often had to teach them to write a sentence.
I taught a slower paced 2 & 3rd grade class…not deemed “special ed” but kids who needed to work at a slower pace.
I assigned the students to write a one page story of what they had done over their summer vacation, to get an idea of where their writing skills were. One 8 year old approached me and asked how to spell “I”..
Being perplexed….I asked him: “Do you mean the eye that you see out of”…..
He replied: “No, like I am going to the playground”……………Oh boy…………it was a very difficult year…
They’d get more people at the Columbus org if they turned it into an IMAX theater with first run movies. They’d make more money too.
Good ones this week Mike. But to be fair it does only say “free admission” to Raiders of the Lost Ark. Nothing is said about how much it will cost to get out. ” But we all know”. But who is dumb enough to pay $100.00 for 5 hours of go-kart racing? Especially knowing there will be a line after each turn. I do love to read the desperation in these each Thursday. Thanks Mike.
Well, acording to Tubbard, I better stop practicing guitar. I do it solely for my own pleasure, no one else seems to enjoy it.
Blasphemy! You WILL play that guitar! Don’t make me come over to your home, Kyle.
There ya go, Kyle. Problem solved. Not enjoying it anymore, are you? :3
Blast! That creates pleasure? Means I’ll have to stop…er…um…rats, now I’ll have to shave my hands. Again.
You made me chuckle. Scientology doesn’t really mind if you play the guitar, they just take the strings of it and accuse you of frying other fish if you touch it. Much akin to what they do with the pleasure that comes from members having friends & family. Scientology sure insists on a clean slate for all its members.
“How LRH used PR Tech to Establish Himself into Any Community he Entered”.
Guess he forgot to apply this when he moved Flag from the Neptune Inn in Daytona into Clearwater all under the cloak of United Churches of Florida. The he paraded around town portraying himself as some sort of professional photographer. PR tech forbids lying as it can be discovered and ruin one’s public image and standing. But that is exactly what happened about 6 months later when the truth came out and he blew leaving his wife and kids behind. Maybe LRH should have been sent to cramming to find what MUs he had on the topic of PR.
AND, Hubbard’s monumental success in Rhodesia!
FP?
If the tech always works….
You can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but never all of the people all of the time.
Hubbard’s ‘tech’ is a prime example of this.
Psychiatric abuse?You mean scientology abuse.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=psychiatric%20abuse,scientology%20abuse
They are generating a “riduculous” amount of “expansion” – it’s ridiculous, because it makes a laughing stock out of them to call their obvious contraction in membership and faltering efforts like Narconon and ScnTv, the opposite of what they really are. It would be interesting to have some statistics from the 1960s to compare, but I bet that Scientology has actuallly shrunk back to a size no bigger than what it was more than 50 years ago. Google Books ngram viewer shows that use of the term Scientology is currently at about the same frequency it was in about 1967-8, which I think fits pretty exactly with other trends; it also shows frequency coinciding with the peak of baby boomers coming of age in the early 1970s, after which there was the sharp “baby bust” dropoff that lead to the first wave of contraction in Scientology, and the conflict between the orgs and missions over a declining pool of “raw meat” prospects:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=scientology&year_start=1950&year_end=2018&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cscientology%3B%2Cc0
All the promo focused on Columbus confirms that it must be one of the next orgs targeted to go “ideal.” The “Done, Sir” club sounds like another case of Scientology’s cart-before-the-horse “postulate” thinking – or perhaps they’re trying to find a way with the smallest and weakest orgs that remain and have yet to get their “ideal” facilities, to avoid the embarrassing problems they encountered in Orlando with things not being ready on time.
Like I always say, they’re the Sad Sack of cultdom.
I dunno, Mike.
I think Harry Potter in that one promo piece is quite appropriate.
After all, didn’t LRH once say that Scientology was like magic?
He meant “manure”. He sometimes had problems selecting the correct words.
Wow.Then somebody messed up when they remade the book
“Scientology-The Fundamentals of Thought” because that’s how it’s worded in there.
Yes, that amount of expansion is truly “ridiculous.”
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I love how you are supposed to rsvp for an event that you aren’t told the location of.
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“We’re building an ideal org, whatever it takes…and however futile it is!”
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Whenever I see “inflatables” in one of these fliers, I picture a Davey blow-up doll, positioned to receive some “dissemination.”
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The DJ dude is practicing his skills so he can blast music outside FLAG to drown out the entheta of all those damn protestors.
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“Seating is limited…to the amount of chairs that can fit around Tony’s dining room table. Call now!”
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Playing WHAT for my own pleasure???
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“You get that?” No, Ron. I most certainly did NOT “get that.”
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“Keep Calm While Watching Scientology.tv’s Stats Drop Like a Boulder in a Pond.”
Scientology TV Worldwide stats as calm as a Ideal Mortuary.No Tom Cruise boost with his successful movie.
Managed to hit a perfect 0 in Google Trends Worldwide on August 6.
Unlimited contraction.Done sir!
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%201-m&q=scientology%20tv
I think that guy’s stage name is “DJ Mortician.”
Can he make people disappear?
I bet space jazz would clear the room.
In a New York minute.
If they want a LRH quote they should just quote him on the problem with China.
More like:
“Raiding Is A Lost Art: come learn from the pros, all the tools and techniques you need to extract wealth from absolutely anyone, anywhere, at anytime!”
Maybe that oughta be “Looting” instead of “Raiding”!
This stuff makes me feel exhausted. Still doing the same money, money money events with all the pressure even after all these years? Dam!
Me, Too! I always say that, almost every week. The weeks I don’t say anything, I’m still asleep from the last go round.
1. Michael Chan is back leering at the camera again. To bad he can’t arrange for perfect photos, what with all his powers and all.
2. The idle org scam is developing a pattern. After you go ideal, you have to raise money for the region. After the region is ideal you have to raise money for the continent. If that goes ideal, I’m sure the world must be. When they’re done, the original ideal orgs will be so worn out and outdated they’ll have to start over. What a long con!
Pay $100 to enter a go-cart race so as to help Scientology buy real estate. WTF? Why would anyone do that when they could pay only $10 and go to the Voicercise Concert. If all that excitement makes it hard for you to sleep you can always watch “The Loop” on Scientology TV, go round and round and round…….
To be fair, the voiercise concert sounds painful. Nothing like an evening listening to people who can’t sing mutilate music you love.
Another event where they would make more money to allow people to leave.
The voicercise concert is a gradient to listening to Miscavige dribble BS for 3 hours. Every Scientologist should be made to attend.
The snarky comments were even snarkier…and funnier than usual this week. Love it.
2021:Imagine a future world cleared of scientology.
No criminal regging,no insanity exorcising hundreds of thousand space cooties,no scientology caused family wars.
Done sir!
That is the dream…