A new pitch
“Pledging” for Ideal Orgs and the IAS “works”. People think they are escaping the pressure by agreeing to “pledge” money they don’t have — they dont realize the pressure they will be under to “make good” on their pledge, even being routed to ethics for not “keeping their word.”
So, why not use it for services too?
Stars of the North?
Winning the Birthday Game.
If this morgue is winning the Birthday Game it is a sad indictment of all the other morgues, from Orlando and Miami to New York and Harlem.
Wow — TC is the best….
Another new fundraising pitch
Not seen this one before…
Just need 115 donations this week…
Seriously? You have 28?
We “are” completing it….
What does it take?
Not “expansion as a being” by having your photo taken with a commendation.
Giving Money.
That is all.
All the way from Turkey
Why? How about the ideal org in Tel Aviv? Or anywhere in Europe?
All in one?
How can there possibly be time for all the graduates from AO, ASHO and LA Org in one graduation?
More evidence of their decayed state — they don’t even warrant their own graduations any more.
A 100% pure scientology environment…
More regges than you have ever seen in your life. They are literally everywhere.
That IS the hallmark of a pure scientology environment
They have a booth
And there is nobody in Div 6 to man it!
This is an “ideal” org?
Go after the kids…
Foreigners and kids are apparently their only hope.
The Irish are steering clear of this ideal org like it was a shrine to Oliver Cromwell.
The “spirit of BC”
Lost in the wilderness perhaps?
They havent been heard from for decades…
Potluck and Dissemination
What fun
Making your life go right
Yeah, well, if you guys know so much about this, how come you are stuck to a dock 90% of the time because you cannot afford fuel to sail anywhere?
Maybe you should hold this seminar on board for the crew?
Another one…
Pretoria, Joburg North and Joburg can only muster enough graduates between them for ONE graduation?
Kiddie Corner
Mumbo-jumbo
Nonsense presented as astonishing wisdom…
Beware the PR BS
This has nothing to do with the “community” and everything to do with “safepointing” scientology.
If you really had this answer…
There would be dozens of world famous scientology artists, with new ones popping up all the time. Hell, OT John Travolta makes bomb after bomb. OT Kirstie Alley hasn’t had a role in decades…
The answer to everything…
Now, if this were true, why didn’t Ron just say “let the planet be Clear” — after all, he was the biggest being ever
What’s stopping you?
This thing we are going to tell you is there, and you are going to pay us a LOT of money to get rid off, until you come to the realization it is simply something you “created”
How’s that for a scam?
Nothing is wrong with you?
How about your reactive mind? See above…
The ChanMan World Tour
Sydney one week. Copenhagen next.
Only 50 seats available!
And only $80.
And only nobody interested.
This target doesn’t stand a chance…
The delusion is spectacular.
Not a single NEW org. Still trying to wrap up the ones they had 15 years ago.
Now how OT is that?
Seriously?
Dude, you need real help.
World Peace Festival
Is what exactly?
An opportunity for regges to get their hands on someone?
Hobnob around
Don’t forget to bring your checkbook as you will be potlucking and hobnobbing with people who have only one thing on their mind: Getting your money
Really?
I wondered if this was a troll.
I am afraid it is actually serious.
So I looked up the Nashville Celebrity Center address because it wasn’t there when I was and it’s just up from my old neighborhood. Noticed two things:
1) The banner for STV says, “Curious? We thought so. So.” Am I missing something, or did they turn grammar check off in Word?
2) You can go around the corner on Chestnut and see the huge parking lot empty except for the lone yellow van of delusion. Makes me proud of my home-away-from-home.
“The more a person apparently has, the symptom is, the less he can have.” — L. Ron Hubbard, Games Theory lectures.
COB apparently has a lot of property. I wonder what that is a symptom of?
If I’m getting a mani/pedi, eating strawberries and drinking champagne, it had better be real champagne and not some champagne flavored non-alcoholic fizzy water. If you want to substitute, hand me a glass of sauvignon blanc.
RK, you took the words right outta my mouth. And that ad was the only one I felt inspired to comment on! Except I’d do a pinot grigio. The rest are even more…stupider.
Want to know why auditing stops disease really? I found out about the use of electrocution in smaller doses such as emitted by the E-metter that can fry bacteria, viruses and parasites in the human body without hurting it. Apparently our tolerance level is higher than all those to the electric current. They sell a plate you plug in and stand on in back of health magazines that cost a lot less than an E-meter. If you aren’t hooked up to the the E-meter and often “The Tech” will do nothing to help you…another misrepresentation and fraud on the COS’s part!!!
Hey Mike the Pumkin Festival is in my neck of the woods… Do you think I should sign up to disseminate our troublemaking? Theyd probably take the bait because I signed the billion year contract lol. What are they going to do in the middle of a festival full of families….beat me up like Davey does?? Lol
Possibly.
I’m a 60 year old woman with a cane! Lol Id love to see that shore flap!! It could be worth it for the bad press in The Detroit News. I could let the tv news know ahead of time to be there so they can get it on camera. Lmao
” a monument to Oliver Cromwell.” Good one Mike! May I say I think you might have missed your calling as a stand up comedian. Some of these really are Thursday funnies. Lol
But what would the Irish have against Oliver Cromwell? Oh, that’s right. He tried to exterminate them.
Wow Doug Sadwick is listed twice in the donators to the Chicago morgue. He is an old Guardians Office Flag B1staff. Guess he’s maybe making these donations as part of an amends project. What a sorry piece of shit
Sometimes I stop and focus on the faces of the people in these posters.
After staring at their faces for a few moments, I feel a tremendous wave of sorrow. I’m certainly not in any kind of position to belittle anybody else. That’s for sure. By comparison, my life is surely no bed of roses.
But … at least I’m free and I’m not under the heartbreaking, life destroying kind of pressur where some horrible demon is calling on me several times each day – demanding and threatening and making bullshit promises … bottom line? They want money, money, money and more, more, more.
I’ve never been able to decide what the worst part of that is. I suppose it’s the commission they get if they can succeed into threatening or terrifying or demanding their victims to “cough up” just a few more dollars they do not have – just so they can get their filthy hands on a few more sheckels.
Surely if there is any God in heaven, I would love to be present when these filthy crumbs try to defend themselves for their own crimes. I would like to see their faces. I would like to hear them beg to excuse themselves for what we all know is inexcusable.
The worst part of this all? There have been times in my life when I have done similar things — by way of abusing defenseless people just to get a few dollars. That is truly the worst – knowing that I have done all these same kinds of things and knowing I have enjoyed it.
I can’t escape the fact there will not be any hiding place for me when it comes time for me to give my accounting.
No hiding place at all. Not for me and not for them. For sure.
That quote from LRH is ridiculous nonsense.
The guy just loved hearing his own voice, slurping on his words.
Are you Still-In scientologists honestly buying into this crap, or are you all secret UTRs?
I know it’s been ages since I’ve been involved in Scientology, but I can’t believe the emphasis on fund raising and the lack of focus on training! Such a hoax! And the thousands of dollars “stolen” from people in the name of helping them.
When I looked at the promo piece foe Chicago Ideal Org my first thought was:
WHAT? NO EDDINGTONS?
No Steve Eddington?
No Carolyn Eddington?
No Dan Eddington?
No Lane Eddington? Um,er, excuse me, no Lane DiBlasi ( I forgot she’s now married).
My guess is that they all went down south to Nashville but Chicago is their hometown!
The one large yellow invite to eliminate the Reactive Mind was on my local FB feed. People reacted right away. Saying that’s Scn- why are you hiding the info? Very skeptical of the lowly wogs. It’s like they can identify BS when they see it.
“What is a better solution on the whole problem of light than to be able to say, ‘Let there be light’ and there’s light.” —LRH
LRH cobbled together stolen beliefs and writings from other religions to create his fake religion-for-profit scam.
He wasn’t averse to stealing from the Bible. “And God said, ‘Let there be light,’ and there was light”, Genesis 1:3. And he stole the Sea Org motto “For many are called, but few are chosen’ from Matthew 22:14.
This fake religion has profited by billions of dollars, but has yielded no public benefit for 70 years. Only two men have held the reins—and the dollars—tightly in their grip. One died completely alone. The other is walking the same path.
I’ve just noticed something peculiar about that Chan guy. His slightly crooked grin emits a subtle sinister vibe. He looks clever yet malevolent, like some James Bond super villain. I can hear him saying, “Welcome to my seminar, Mr Bond. Enjoy it while you can, as I’m afraid you’re not long for this world.”
Thanks, Aquamarine!
“OT Kirstie Alley hasn’t had a role in decades…”
Hey, hey now. She was on Celebrity Big Brother last year. That’s, uh, something. I guess.
It’s the part she was born to play! LOL
Kirstie Ally is yesterday’s news! She’s a nobody. She says that Scientology has ‘millions of members’. Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha
Kirstie is smoking the “20 million members” crack, in fact. That number is apparently circulating as scuttlebut – even though there’s not supposed to be that sort of rumor-mongering in Scientology – and we get a whiff of it from time to time.
Ally is a prime, sad example that actors don’t actually do well in Scientology, and usually see their careers tank and fade into oblivion. No one would even know who she is if not from Cheers decades ago, and the commercials promoting a weight loss program that she herself was unsuccessful at following – an embarrassing failure.
What a shame. Even her OTVIII powers can’t get this vulgar, dumb, no-talent “actress” an actual acting job.
I’ve never seen it spelled Irland before. Is that the German way of spelling?
It’s a new way of saying Ireland. I’m pretty sure the person was drunk at the time.
I wonder if “pledges” are used as a newly invented “stat” for which they can claim “highest ever” – since it never existed before, and so starts at zero. Ruses like that probably explain how they manage to claim “highest evers,” and here they’re trying to get people to commit money they don’t even have, reminiscent of the old “postulate (postdated) check” debacle.
As for Tampa, and their OTC, photos posted by a local commenter over at Tony Ortega’s show that their St. Petersburg Life Improvement Center has been closed and abandoned for months if not longer – perhaps they need to “come up to present time” and deal with their real world failures, not sit around and listen to something supposedly “new” taken from Hubbard lectures of more than half a century ago.
Chicago’s count of 28 people who have donated recently and a total of 115 who have in the past, probably gives a fair idea of their number of active diehard members versus the total “field” of people who retain some ties to the org – most likely including UTRs who will show up occasionally and even give token amounts just to keep the peace.
The World Peace Festival sounds like the sort of front group effort the Moonies used to put on. The Columbian “rabbi,” and I think another of Scientology’s erstwhile supposed ecumenical shill, have actually turned out to have ties to the Moonies as well, so who knows who they’re in bed with now.
Mission of the Foothills always seems to be running more of a community – senior citizen? – activity center than a Scientology location, and apparently others are hopping on that bandwagon. The Clearwater mani/pedi spa event is being coordinated by someone who appears to be from Bellair, so it may be an effort of the mission there to work the non-Scientology angle.
Well, it’s certainly a new and different angle–promoting Scn while pretending that it’s not Scn. If it works I’ll be amazed.
You’re going to have to wait a very long time. Like the porch of infinity.
You’re going to have to wait a very long time.
“Bypass habits and normal routines”, Chris! They’ll try anything at this point!
That address for the Foothills Mission thing is a parishoners little rental where he lives. It is not a big venue or a public venue at all. Just a small little rental place.
Cyndi, the Foothills mission location with an address on Honolulu, appears to actually be down an alley and a level below the street, in a commercial building. They’re the ones that have been throwing all the non-Scientology events and, infamously, trying to fundraise, including online, to make their dated and shabby space “ideal”:
https://www.mikerindersblog.org/foothill-msn-fail/
Is that actually being used as a live-work space? Or are you thinking of something else?
Also, the location of another event, in Sunland is, I believe, a house where a couple may also rent out to other scientologists, including possibly the infamous Brian Anderson from Lisa McPherson Trust days in Clearwater, if I remember correctly what I found in public records. They seem to be frequently having events as an attempt to keep going the vestiges of the defunct Sunland/Tujunga mission that once had storefront space, and which has since shown signs of bouncing around between several residences in the area.
I know that some of the dwindling number of missions that Scientology still lists on their website, are actually in buildings in which the mission holder lives, if not just a room in their house, such as the one in Maine, or else just back rooms or adjacent spaces that are part of members’ businesses like dental offices. Having a mission in its own commercial space must require ongoing subsidies from the mission holder nowadays, except for just a handful of the busiest California missions and the one outside Clearwater.
You’re right about the Foothills Msn. It is in Montrose in a walk down location facing out to the parking lot. They cover the windows with big posters because some local Ex Scns frequently took pics through the windows to show what little public they were servicing. So now problem solved with posters so no one can see in. But that means no sunlight can also get in.
In Sunland there is a house near a church, possibly owned by the church where Richard Stewart lives. A lot of the little events are held at his house. He is a painter by trade and drinking the Kool Aid. But they are not calling themselves the Sunland Mission. That died a long time ago.
Cyndi, that event at an office in Sunland is put on by Nancy Daley and Neil Briggs – are those familiar names? They seem to be old staff auditors. Their website hides the Scientology connection under “counseling” until you really drill into it, so I’m guessing they are trying to lure “raw meat” public and maybe running a field auditor practice as well – ironically they’re on the same street as the defunct mission, less than half a mile from its last storefront location.
I assume the Stewarts own that house where they host events – more or less; it’s become a rather valuable property according to real estate records, but I bet it’s been bled of any equity for money to give Scientology. LA county records apparently don’t show ownership, but Scientology itself doesn’t own residences except for Miscavige’s.
But apparently no one wants to be on the hook for just re-opening the mission in a commercial space of its own, which these days probably means having to subsidize its losses. I wonder if both the “counselors” and the Stewarts are hoping that somehow something like ScnTV will result in enough renewed interest in Scientology for missions to be viable again, but that is so dubious that even the remaining diehard faithful are no longer willing to bet money on such a “postulate.”
Thanks for contributing what I assume is local knowledge. It helps to give a better picture of what exactly is going on at the local level in Scientology.
p.s. Over at The Bunker I caught talk that the Bankes, who had taken over the South Coast and Ocala missions from another mission holder after previous turnovers (the Travoltas had originally opened Ocala), and who were apparently planning to open another in Tijuana, have split. He was the mission holder, but she was one of the dentists who had managed to aggressively grow a practice into multiple locations, apparently under his management, a job he probably no longer has. That could throw franchise ownership into turmoil again – the missions increasingly seem to be treated like hot potatoes, and to require “whale” sponsorship.
The Twin Cities org is as dead as fried chicken. All those lists of qualifications are things that no one is doing. Bookselling? Auditing? Accounting? LOL… the handful of bored staff that are hanging around there should have more than enough capacity for what’s going on. It should say things like “finding latest roof leak”, “listening to light bulb buzz”, or “dusting unsold books”. Would be surprised if there are even 30 active public.
“Winning the LRH Birthday Game” is probably just delusional “postulate” talk from an org that is actually currently trailing. Plus, the game is always apparently rigged in favor of one of the orgs that has just gone “ideal,” so in the world of Scientology they would end up losing even if they did somehow manage to be the actual top performer.
“Mumbo-jumbo
Nonsense presented as astonishing wisdom…”
LRH’s real message is you should sell all your stuff and give the money to me. You will then be a much happier person.
This reminds me of what a friend told me “The more you possess, the more you are possessed”.
DM’s head must spin around like the propeller on his hat – he should go for an exorcism. I’ve read that the cult does have the ability to perform one. Just saying.
Love the What You Don’t Know Can Hurt You. Amen.
Michael Chan just looks like an evil little – something or other. Sort of like a “Come into my parlor”.
Put A Bow On It? More like stick a fork in it.
The “spirit of BC”
Um, have to say that bear looks like it’s thinking “What are you looking at?
Just can’t stomach any of their horrible lures with beautiful children tossed out at bait. They have no shame.
Profound gibberish with a heaping side of blather. LRH’s pathologically grandiose narcissism made him believe his endless flowing river of nonsense prose was somehow sagacious and meaningful. Hubbard was a deeply deluded blowhard.
Pedrito, do you think LRH waffled between his make believe world and the real world?
Use of the children makes me shocked, angry and afraid for their safety. I was a Scientology kid.
I was never in $ci, but the abuse of children makes me the most angry and sad.
The delusion in all of these ads is astounding.
How can Micky Chan travel all over the world via his 10% commission? How much is he kicking in to travel?
Alex Boots?? Sir, your very name is made for walking. Good luck with Columbus, you are going to need it, just to fill up the area for pics with the COB.
Aging a curable disease?? Well walk into the Mountain View CO$ and find out. Psst, the answer is no, no matter what Pete Hoffman says.
Maybe that 10% commission is bigger than might be obvious, particularly if he is getting a cut of some large donations from “whales.” I suspect that all the FSM commissions, including those that minor celebrities apparently get, are sort of the dirty secret that keeps Scientology going, kind of like an MLM pyramid scheme.
And as in an MLM, the FSMs apparently get ongoing commissions for any subsequent services their “selectees” sign up for, so someone who had a network of “selectees” would want to go around and keep them energized and signing up for more services, in order to keep the cash flowing. It may be more like a traveling salesman periodically making the rounds of his accounts.
No one would expect a “church” to actually be a commissioned sales scheme, so I think think that aspect of Scientology operations largely flies under the radar, and rarely gets exposed since the FSMs are the most loyal or at least most financially invested, and so least likely to blow.
Wow you’re probably right about the Mountain View COS looking like an episode of The Golden Girls..Lol Back in the early 80’s when it was still Stevens Creek Mission I met Joy who ran the show and her husband Fred and they were definitely as old if not a few years older than me and I’m going to be 61 at the end of this year! Not that that’s so old but it’s definitely aging. The last propaganda I got from the org a few years ago said Joy was still in charge.
Pledging? PLEDGING???
Oh crap. Here they go again. In 1970 there was a burst of stats. AOLA hired auditors on contract, “Complete Your Case” auditing packages were offered, amnesty all around, and the wonderful ‘Postulate Checks’ had produced boom times.
Then a year later everyone was wearing black bands and black spots on their foreheads, and eating beans and rice. Those ‘Postulate Checks’ that were to be fulfilled at some point in the future had been credited as gross income at the time of their writing. FALSE STAT. There was NO cash in the till, just a promosory note. And………….. when those notes were not fulfilled when due the stats crashed doubly; The previously false income was subtracted from current income plus the postulate checks that were due, and not paid, was subtracted.
Let’s see if they insist on repeating this crap.
After reading the LRH quotes, it’s amazing how he could use so many words to say so little.
You must remember, he was once paid a penny per word for his so-called ‘science fiction’ stories. It had become a habit by the time he started making so much more for his ‘scientology-fiction’ stories.
Good point.
I pointed once. I almost got a broken finger.
Scribe,
It’s called obfuscatingness. Or was it flim-flamingness? Or mumbleness?
Off to the tech dictionary. Oh! Wait. Even that is under revisionness.
Misunderstoodness, verywelldoneness, errorness.
Hubbardian prose is like a degenerative senile plaque, amyloid beta buildups inhibiting your ability to accurately comprehend erm cognite anything.
Hubbardness is toxic.
I’ll take one of each. I particularly like the mumbleness.
How fast can you get them to me?
It could also be attributed to “confusion technique” or some other hypnosis-related strategy, such as to lull people enough to get them to accept command authority.
Where’s Mockingbird?!
Aging is a curable disease, the cure is very unpleasant.
If the cure for aging was in any way tolerable. COB would be all over it.
Scientology is a curable disease. All you have to do is leave it and never go back.
Truer words were never spoken. It’s just so bizarre that cult members are still thinking that Scientology will cure anything.
As I always say, Scientology is completely useless. It’s ALL MAKE BELIEVE!!! Nothing in Scientology ‘works’. It’s a global scam.
The cult has it backwards. Aging isn’t the cause of disease; disease is the cause of aging.
So
Yo! All you 7s and 8s in good standing with the cult lurking here:
That’s IT!
Stop the counter-creating of your physical health! already!
Stop creating disease in yourself!
Its out-ethics!
Keep creating health, and you’ll be healthy!
See?
Simple!
Just saved you a seminar fee and some precious time.
You’re welcome.
Much love,
Aqua