Twin Cities is #1
Seriously? 37 weeks at number 1 speaks volumes as to the state of scientology.
This place is deader than a doornail… and they are the best.
Few Apply, All Are Chosen
And why do you always leave out the bit about terrible pay in the middle?
Why no mention of Scientology?
It’s being held at Joburg Org.
According to Google maps that is the corner of Langermann Dr and Grays St. They can’t even get the address right?
They spelled it right one this one…
Celebrate 10 years of Hopelessness
Nobody has heard a peep from this place.
They are NOT “bringing about a new civilization” — nobody even knows they’re there.
Lance Miller Speaks
I guess that’s what this is?
No phone number?
Seems the org hasn’t had their phones connected?
Here’s a 17 year old
Ready to pull your withholds
These vendors do know this is scientology?
They will when they show up I guess…
Lance Miller again
He is a man of many talents.
Celebrate the resurrection of Christ
With the people who believe he is an implant
Just weird
The Artful Dodger
The old GO crims never die, they just start giving advice
Scientology India
Not one org in the most populous democracy on earth.
How do they plan to clear the planet exactly?
Huh?
I wonder what she tells people who don’t look like her?
Why not the Shrine?
Can’t get enough people in Los Angeles for Ron’s Birthday?
Math is not their strong suit
And they are nowhere close to achieving this. But they’ll push it to the last day, and then stuff what they didnt finish into a storage shed and cheer as the “bio-degradable” balloons are launched…
The Flag clubbed seals
Going to see more and more Flag public names popping up as the push is on because they are running out of ribbon yankings for Dear Leader.
Are they From Puerto Rico?
WISE and Church don’t mix
But always desperate to get anyone to show up, they are bringing the businesses in an onto the back of the org.
Hubbard would be horrified. The reason he created WISE was specifically and ONLY to “get scientology businesses off the backs of orgs.”
Narconon EU in Japan?
Why?
Where is ANZO?
Maybe Study Tech first?
At the spiritual mecca…
Come in for a marketing seminar.Makes perfect sense.
Mighty Melbourne?
But still not even St Hill size…
Scientology/NOI
Still an opportunity for some inspiring video footage.
SuMP is going to be there! We had better have some people in attendance.
How come Detroit “ideal” org doesn’t have booksellers?
Thanks for the plug for the blog…
Nothing superior about this quote…
Still trying to get to St. Hill size.
You do know that this is what Hubbard called the “Make/Break” point right? Below it you struggle and don’t survive.
And every ideal org on earth is by definition struggling and not making it.
You have to Clear it to maintain it’s natural beauty?
You people are cray-cray.
Yep, they have to Clear it because it’s “America’s coolest city”
And that is going to be hard because scientology is America’s uncoolest cult.
Live from Flag and Sydney…
This is going to be one of those out of body experiences?
OMG — Highest Ever Ever!
9.
One OT III.
No OT V’s.
Asia will be fully OT in no time at this rate.
To laugh or to cry? Money is more than the truth. Why tell scientologists to smile because they are in $cientology.
I just remembered that more than 15 years ago at an event, DM with his Mussolini-like talk stating that the clearing of the planet was something that would only require this lifetime. Whoever applauds him and his crap is really in a bubble without a minimum objective reality of what is out there. Even with 1 mil staff it won’t happen.
The only thing one will really see in this lifetime is surely the disappearance of the sect.
Ray Dolby Ballroom capacity
seated
2000
standing
3400
Shrine Auditorium capacity
6300
The Dolby Ballroom can also be configured to smaller sizes, so it’s hard to even know for certain. They’ve been using it for a couple of years now for events other than New Years’.
Are They From Puerto Rico? No, but it looks like they got regged out of a lot of money there. Paul & Rene Chalupsky were on staff at Stevens Creek Org in the 80’s and 90’s, and then they moved to Florida. Paul was the FBO at Stevens Creek Org, but now works as VP Operations at American Power and Gas (Tim Cummins is the CEO), so has money to spend on things like Idle Morgues.
Thanks Jethro. Recognized Paul’s face in the photo but couldn’t remember where he was from . You filled in the blank nicely.
“…to maintain it’s natural beauty…”
I guess being OT doesn’t make one more “able” to use apostrophes correctly?
Wait, wait, wait… The cult is throwing some sort of super gala concert in Sydney for an “Ideal ANZO”, AND THEY COULDN’T BOOK KATE CEBRANO???
A hardcore scientologist, born into a hardcore scientology family, and one of the most recognisable names in Australian music over the last three decades?!?
FLUNK!!!!!!!!!!
Sydney concert: I wonder if Alison Ainsworth is the daughter of Dave and Dot Ainsworth, from Adelaide org? It seems most likely. If so, that’s a pity, because it means the parents are most likely still in.
Dave was a nice guy and everybody loved Dot. I saw them a few times, though they weren’t in Sydney for ethics handlings, like most outer-org personnel. They were originally from Melbourne, and I believe they went back there at some point.
There’s already been a Saint-Hill-sized org in Australia: AOSH ANZO, when it was in the Inner-West suburb of Glebe. I was there. They had perhaps 20 international and CLO ANZO missions pushing them to the goal. If the mission personnel were included, they had a Saint-Hill-sized staff. The missions all had to leave because the job was done, and the stats crashed. Of course it was all a stat-push with no sustainability.
Within about two weeks, the CO was overwhelmed and on the RPF. No-one pushed through the cognitive dissonance to realise that things didn’t make sense.
Ron says that the consideration one needs time to do something is an aberration (or something of this sort). But it is a nonsense and also an invitation to stat push.
I do renovations of old and historical buildings. There are times to respect. If I don’t wait that the cement is fully dry I can’t put any parquet. Or if I don’t keep at least 5 days all plumbing under watch before to cover it I will have serious problems. The laws of this universe applies also to sector 9.
Just about at 2 PM, my phone rang. Thinking it might be some poor staff member trying to squeak out an upstat, I didn’t even look at the caller ID. Now, THAT’s retired!
Depending on a person’s situation, and because of technology, it is possible to have a phone blocker with a Call list blocker, and a Allow list blocker. The Allow list blocker will only let numbers through that you program into it, like friends, family, and doctors. Anyone else that calls from any other number, won’t go through, even if it is a spoofed number. My tech is better than Scientology………
“Few Apply, All Are Chosen”
No truer words have been written. scientology has, AFAICT, ALWAYS serviced their staff last, and never paid them butkus, either.
Thursdays are SO much fun, particularly compared to thursday @2 stat pushes amounting to no real product —ever. IF scientology COULD have delivered any of the promised products, I’d probably still be “in”, still, if my health had been up to it. I doubt this poor body could have held up under the strains of forever chasing illusory goals and imaginary superpowers. I still dream of those superpowers occasionally, even recognising them as fantasies within the dreams/nightmares.
Brought to us Live from Hypocrisy Central, here are scientology’s endorsements for the Clearwater Council:
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/320928-scientologists-recommend-frank-hibbard-for-clearwater-mayor
Unsurprisingly, Bunker did not make the cult’s cut. Bummer!
Strangely, they claim that First Amendment considerations were paramount for their picks for–of all things–a city council.
With typical hypocrisy, they claim to champion free speech. Of course this means, as long as it’s not abused to tell the truth about the “church.” With this tortured logic, they endorse Santana for seat 2 as “they believed Santana had the better chops to “aggressively defend constitutional liberties.'”
Curiously, Santana’s concern for “free speech” made him the only candidate whose campaign felt compelled to shout down one (and only one) competing candidate during that candidate’s debate opening speech. The candidate at the receiving end of this exercise of “aggressively defend[ing] constitutional liberties”was none other than one Mark Bunker. The language used during the verbal attack was familiar to all scientology watchers, “hater” and “bigot.”
https://www.tampabay.com/news/clearwater/2020/02/20/once-unspoken-scientology-at-forefront-of-clearwater-city-councils-seat-2-race/
“The HGC needs staff auditors…Tough preclears. Impossible hours…etc.,…”
I recall back in the day there was “Awful pay” in this LRH written promo.
But its missing here.
An unintentional oversight I’m sure. This could not have been edited out on purpose.
Sure. An unintentional oversight. “Just awful” I would say.
🙂
Hahahahaha. I think I was the last ED NN ANZO and I resigned in 2006(?) due to broke promises But you gotta give the Italian NN guys credit as they’ve been pretty much all that’s kept NN alive outside of the US for at least 20 years. Just to rub it in a bit more, the “Ideal NarCONon” at Yarramalong (the one that was bragged internationally by the kult then got stopped by the local residents and the Council) is still a vacant property worth (per the professional estimates I read) around $500,000. Davey got it for $3.8 million years ago. You gotta laugh at this most incompetent bunch of bunglers – except that they’re also a bunch of vicious thugs self-righteously trying to take over the planet.
Good one Scooter.Yarramalong doesn’t deserve to be tarnished by this filthy cult. By the way, is it just myself and the Oxford Dictionary having spelling problems. In the ad. about the ‘annual East Hollywood Spring Festival’, they highlight the selling of ‘jewelry’. Please look it up.
In American English it is spelled ‘Jewelry’ and in varieties of English outside of North America it is spelled ‘Jewellery’. I used to buy/sell jewelry on eBay and had no idea it was spelled differently in other English speaking countries until I misspelled it one day and found wonderful deals where other listers had misspelled it completely (jewerly or jewlry) or had used the non-US way of spelling.
Here is a quick little article I found explaining the difference and where it came from. https://grammarist.com/spelling/jewelry-jewellery/
“To maintain it’s natural beauty” should be “To maintain its natural beauty.” Apparently no editors are on staff in Austin.
I haven’t done Key to Life!
“They” haven’t done Key to Life! Bloody autocorrect!
And here are scientology’s endorsements for the Clearwater Council:
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/320928-scientologists-recommend-frank-hibbard-for-clearwater-mayor
Unsurprisingly, Bunker did not make the cult’s cut. Bummer!
Strangely, they claim that First Amendment considerations were paramount for their picks for a city council. With typical hypocrisy, they claim to champion free speech, as long as it’s not abused to tell the truth about the “church.”
Interesting that Scientology is now populated with undistinguished has beens and a few rich narcissists.
Very sad children all, lead by the pied piper Miscavige over the cliff of infinity.
I am baffled and I am tired of the ITSA in my reactive mind. Can someone enlighten me please? Why on Xenu’s Smoldering Volcano do Scientologists go into “Marketing” careers? I will list the number of people I personally know who have opened up and are running or are working for Marketing Companies who are “died in the wool” Kool aid drinking, brainwashed, can’t think for themselves, most have not run a popcorn stand and they are all robot, clueless Scientologists willfully ignoring the elephant on the planet – (they have been duped).
Here is a list of the top scammy marketers that are Scientologists and own or work for Marketing Scams utilizing L Ron Hubbard SCAMOLOGY. These guys are followed by a bunch of Scientologists wanna be’s.
Vick Tipnes
Grant Cardone
Patrick Cloudin
Joy Gendusa, owner of Post Card Mania. Joy Gendusa and her flying monkey minions
she hires are mostly Scientologists. In my experience, the company has been ripping off small businesses that filter in through the various hidden WISE front groups ( peddling for Scientologists so they can be manipulated out of all of their money and savings and put into deep debt).
Post Card Maniacs have been out there peddling their snake oil over priced marketing services to dentists, chiropractors and veterinarians who are lured into WISE management Groups and it has been going on for many years.
The only reason that rip off, fraudulent company is still in business is because Scientology puts business owners in a state of confusion and many mistakes are made. The biggest mistake is working with Postcard Mania – or more appropriately named Post Card MANIACS….simply because they take advantage of that confused level of unawareness and rip people off.
Twin Cities org is as dead is fried chicken. The nearest org, Chicago, is over 400 miles away and I would guess that there are still less than 50 Scientologists in the region. They made a big deal a year or two ago out of making ONE clear if that tells you anything. The org is totally dead, the only people you see mulling about around it are sadly the homeless. They are in the middle of downtown, in a good location next to 2 major highways, in a historic building, next to a historic theater and down the street from more. Positioned between all mass transit links in St. Paul. Steps from the state capital. Abundant foot traffic on weekdays.
And. Still. Empty.
MarcAnon, if there are 50 scientologists in the Twin Cities metro area, I’d bet they’re all “on staff”. And it would seem from some stories that they would have been transferred (trafficked) from other places to falsely pump up the number of staff there.
I was considering an estimate of how many public there are in the whole region. There are no orgs between Chicago, St. Louis, Kansas City, and Winnipeg – about 8 hours drive in any direction. Yet the number of public Scientologists who ever turn up at the org is probably less than 50. This is in a metro area of about 4 million people.
All these events to captivate the locals and give them the idea that they share the same reality. And what arguments!
Excuse me but it won’t be easier to survey and at least understand what community people really want? Instead of listening to the ‘creative’ bullshit that goes through those theta-filled heads. Don’t worry so much friends they won’t. They are too ‘know best’ and stats devoted.
Why is the Amsterdam Holland org advertising in English? Do the Dutch know something English speakers don’t know?
How do I identify people around me? I look at them and allow my subconscious to classify them into my way of classifying.
Selling Dianetics at a street fair in Austin TX? Good luck with that.
How much money did a 360x ‘Humanitarian’ donate? Tom Cummins is an asshole no matter what he does. Why is he doing the Regfest walkabout? Is he so poor that the 10% he earns, he needs?
Thursday Funnies are fun. The CO$ internal propaganda is funny and sad.
English is the lingua franca there. All the Dutch speak it, and since the Dutch are a disappearing breed in Amsterdam, English works to reach all the people from the rest of the world.
Besides, I’m sure the staff were all imported from other countries and don’t speak Dutch 🙂
Is it really that bad these days?
I was given a tour of the Amsterdam org in 2008. The scilon talking to me was certainly Dutch
https://whyweprotest.net/threads/visit-to-the-amsterdam-org.18564/
I was being a little facetious there, but even the Dutch people I meet in Amsterdam prefer to speak English.
LOL
That’s what we’re known for. Sometimes makes it hard for people who moved to the Netherlands to learn Dutch.
Zee, In my wanderings, I’ve found that most Europeans know English surprisingly well, especially the areas of native Germanic speakers. When my first wife and I went to Switzerland, pretty much each day, some Germans also on holiday would rescue us from my terminal inability in German (Or HER French).
Recently, as I was exploring some rabbit hole I’d tumbled into, I discovered that some linguists take exception with some aspects of the idea that there are “native English speakers”or a “standard” English, but that the ‘lish dialects:, Spanglish, and other blended languages around the world, are as valid as the US & UK variants. I saw some truth in the idea, as strongly as many obviously “foreign” terms have invaded “standard” English over the centuries; French and German ‘borrowed words’ in particular.
**** English is the new “lingua Franca”, the language of business worldwide. It’s a bit of a shame, as it allows ignorant people like me to travel freely; I TOOK a couple of years of German under protest in high school, and have zero facility as a result. My attempts are amusing to German speakers when they’re being charitable.
Zee Moo observed:”
“The CO$ internal propaganda is funny and sad.”
That’s a major part of the reason “Thursday Funnies” are so fun. Schadenfreude, I’d guess. You have to laugh or you’d cry.
I don’t know Tom Cummins. Never met him. Don’t know anyone who knows him or has met him. So with that in mind, take what I’m about to say for what its worth.
I look at his face, just his face, with that smile, and this is my eval: he is just SO so so so full of himself.
“I am Tom Cummins. I am rich. You, probably, are not. I am handsome and tall. You are, I am quite sure, not as handsome, or as tall. But don’t feel bad about that because practically no one is as tall, handsome and fit as I am, and those are just my physical attributes. You see, I am a Scientologist. Very likely you are not. Which means I know more than you do, about everything. Even if you are a Scientologist I’m very likely a better Scientologist than you are. But don’t worry, I still have affinity for you despite what is most probably the huge disparity in the size of our beingnesses. I am a Big Being, you see. You are, in all likelihood, not. A Big Being, that is. But, again, I still have affinity for you. Did I mention that I’m rich? Yes, well, a LOT of my money goes to Scientology. Thank you, thank you. Yes, I know how much you admire that. I admire it too, actually. Well, you know, this IS what Big Beings DO. This is what we do. Flowing BIG, playing BIG…”Spirit of Play” as LRH said it. This is what distinguishes the Big Beings from the…but hey, don’t worry, you’ll get there someday. Thank you for your admiration. I REALLY admire you, too, by the way. Yes! For the way you admire me! Shows your smart.”
PS: I don’t think he’s handsome. But he sure as hell thinks he is.
How many years left until that JOKE of a VM photo is retired? Two, young, surfer-ish dudes carting exactly what on a stretcher? Oh, the military-ish plane in the background . . .? The dark shades look great on them, yep. Did Kristin give them a pair each? She is typically sporting similar eyewear. OSA, this is so old it’s a PR flap.
“…and we wanted to make sure you were the first to know!”
If I keep hearing this, ‘first to know’, I’m going to go fucking ballistic!!!
Laughing!
Thank you for letting us be the first to know you are going to go fucking ballistic in a few minutes time.
Yeah, classic click-bait / hook to get people reading, which is completely losing its power through over use here.
OSD,
Are you sure you have the fucking RANK to go fucking ballistic?
I’m just fucking checking.
And I’m just laughing my ass off!
OSD stated:
“If I keep hearing this, ‘first to know’, I’m going to go fucking ballistic!!!”
Chill dude. Go splash in the waves or something. Watch the pretty girls on the beach.
Perhaps I should more properly have stated: “Oggle the girls on the beach. I can never get enough of that, myself.
Yo Dave,
” we wanted to make sure you were the first to know” about this Corona Virus thingy that seems to be causing illness in the populations around the globe.
Now given the fact that all of us Ess Frickin Pees out here will no doubt fall ill sooner or later if not because we don’t have the tech but because we are who we are …….. I wanted to suggest you get ahead of the curve on this good buddy.
Since You have the tech and You have the Idle Morgues to deliver it, why not git yer new Pee Tee Ess – Ess Frickin Pee Course dusted off and in use to help free mankind and in the process You would become the greatest saviour the planet has seen since cut bait was discovered for fishing.
So … good buddy……. Here is how ya do it. Ya take the largest private volunteer group on the planet and fire them off to Taiwan Idle Morgue to set up a Corona Virus Volunteer Ministers “we’re here to help” center. There, they get busy giving nerve assists followed by Pee Tee Ess interviews to determine the who that is causing all this illness and then you deliver yer wonnerful new GAG III Pee Tee Ess- Ess Pee Course which effectively produces a being who can fully handle suppression and thus eliminate the illness.
Then you get Tom (who is on hiatus from filming Mission Impossible because of the Corona Virus) to call Don Trump and tell him about Yer tech which will then be implemented far and wide and You become the new world savior. And Tom can lead the Volunteer Ministers into the Corona Battle which seems like a mission impossible of it’s own and everyone wins.
Seems like a no-brainer Dave and we know that you are good at those! Think of the Pee Are!
The true mission impossible will be to invert the downtrend the cult took since Mike and Leah started their crusade. Hey Tom end of the saga!
Damn @newcomer now I need to go Pee! 😉
@ Newcomer,
This is President Trump. Yes, I read this blog. LIKE your ideas on how to handle the Coronavirus Hoax. LIKE that you’re not a doctor. Nobody trusts them anyway. Don’t know what you do for a living. Don’t care. Tom & Dave want you on board with me. Seriously considering you for Coronavirus Czar. Please send resume to White House. Include pertinent data only: name, address, phone number, largest fish you ever caught, everything you like about me. KAG!
Just go surfing OSD, it’s more fun.
Ciaran Ryan so renowned he has 33 twitter followers. Muck Rack says he is a freelance journalist and has published 639 articles. A large majority of this “investigative journalist’s” articles are posted on https://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-company-pages/about-moneyweb/
This is the reason scientologists are not allowed on the internet. Even the promo released about their members is so blatantly false that a peek at real credentials would leave them wondering what else they were lied to about.
Chicago Org bought their building eons ago. They have had a decade (or more?) to get their central files in order and up to date, but now wait until they need 8300 man hours of work done and a month to do it, and now they want to dump this mess on their public. Bunch of dodos.
More. Chicago has one of the properties they bought bought during the real estate bubble, claimed a few years later they were going to renovate, and ended up in trouble with the city over the building being left derelict – and that they still haven’t moved in to 13 years later.
A few others like Kansas City they finally got done recently; Philadelphia, Battle Creek and New Haven are similar examples still sitting with no progress. There are more complex cases involving giving up on the old building purchased to renovate and planning to do something different, in Albuquerque, St. Louis and Boston. And that may not be all the ongoing travails – behind the glitz and glamour of the occasional “opening” is a mess of poor planning, dysfunction, failed promises and projections, and wasted money.
Figuring they are a typical small and failing org with about 25 to 30 diehards left, that 8,300 hours amounts to about 330 hours per person given maybe 25 are actually available to do the work (they’re apparently hoping for 20, which would be 415 hours each or over 10 40-hour weeks per person). That’s obviously not happening in a month, and maybe not until closer to summer. This could also be the sort of thing that’s delaying Austin’s opening, though I think it was reported that in the case of Orlando they never did get CF finished in time and just went ahead anyway (after one or two delays, presumably due to yet other glitches).
Its too bad they just don’t get a scanner, scan all this paper, label it the way they like and then shred it. Now, I know that LRH didn’t provide for this option in his admin policies but for crying out loud:
1) Iff Day and Foundation orgs can be collapsed (High Crime), and
2) If CL V org staff can be moonripped to stat push some other org (High Crime)
3) If even public from one org can be coerced or even ordered to switch orgs as part of a Stat Push (has to be some kind of Crime), then
why can’t it be OK to reduce mountain ranges of paper via technology?
And, last, but not least, other than to vent, why am I even asking this question?
Truthfully, though, I AM curious as to how/why/when its JUST FINE for the cult to violate SOME tech when expedient to do so while at the same time HOLDING ON to other tech that is so obviously outmoded, unnecessary, unwieldy and cumbersome – ?
SadStateofAffair: I got stuck in SCN in the late 80’s and even then the central file was a mess. Every single year there have been evolutions worldwide to ‘bring the CF’ into the present ie updated. It is more than 30 years from my experience that I continue to hear it and it continues to be a fairy tale. An unfinished that makes history.
Dodoslogists
I was in Chicago in 2004. My daughter lived close to the place where the new idle morgue is going to be. Prior to that it was a thriving library that they would walk to every day. What a loss.
I have photos of homeless sleeping in the doorways of the building back in 2004. It’s been longer than 16 years since they bought the building. I saw it vacant with my own eyes in 2004.
I wonder if Twin Cities is being propped up a by Sea Org mission sent to address their longstanding dire condition. But aren’t the SO supposed to move on and “stat push” one of the orgs recently made “ideal”?
Those 8300 man-hours of CF work at Chicago equates to about 4-1/2 man-years full time (based on a normal 40-hour week with breaks and vacation), which gives us an idea of how they are understaffed and running various sorts of deficits. As other examples of that, they depend on not paying staff, which really just shifts the cost on to employees and their families, or on the welfare system and society at large if they rely on public assistance; plus from reports, in many cases orgs have relied on donations from local whales just to pay bills to keep the lights on and doors open. By any proper accounting the orgs are deeply in the red in many respects, completely insolvent and “not a going concern” according to formal standards.
No sea org there that I am aware of. Just elderly staff.
Matthew, then any ideas how they could be first in the birthday game? Taking into account typical Scientology weasel-wording and lying by omission, they may just be first in the Midwest, which is the part of the country where they are particularly weak, but that still includes the newly “ideal” Kansas City and Columbus orgs that would typically get getting extra help so that they could appear to do well.
Rename to Thursday Hallucinations.
What about Fridays? They still have Hallucinations, don’t they?
They have other people’s hallucinations on Friday…
You have a good sense of humor. That on Easter made me laugh out loud.
Insanity is Scientology. They say they can teach Love when Hubbard left the emotion out on purpose. They talk about Easter and a risen Jesus when it is an implant for them. Scientology needs a massive clean up.
Yes, Hubbard vilified Love. One of the biggest red flags about Scientology.
Yup! Easter’s just an implant, part of R6 to be audited out. And HOW is scientology compatible with Christianity?
And LOVE?? Seems Hubbard never did feel that emotion, considering what he put his “loved ones” through in each case…
No wonder he never expounded on, complicated, and confused that subject, AFAICT. Closest he got IIRC, was something like sex and marriage being evil constructs of the psychs back on the relatively recent track. It’s the issue that caused married couples to banish sex from their lives, a darn shame, if you ask me. If nothing else, it’s a playful exercise that can help promote a restful sleep. Poor Tubby: evidently too paranoid to get emotionally entangled
Speaking of LOVE, they get Lance Miller, the big Toastmasters guy is now doing love seminars over and over for the Foothills Mission in CA. I want to know if Lance is married and if it is happily? What are his credentials to talk about love?
Or maybe he had another reason for “dissing” sex – perhaps an altogether different, and highly subjective reason…?
Hubbard and Crowley both hated Christianity. Crowley could not get sex from the Victorian Christian girls so he developed Thelema partially to get dates. It got even worse when he made the women totally give their bodies to him. I find it ironic that Hubbard tried to align with Buddhism when it is so close to Christianity. Like Sermon on the Mount is probably from Buddhist texts. It merely shows how stupid Hubbard really was.
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.
Christianity’s Golden Rule for ages but…dunno, there’s something wrong…its just not workable somehow…
” Do others in, as they do you in.”
THERE ‘ya go, JC!
Fixed it for ‘ya!
Much love,
Dave
Question. Are these flyers only circulated to cult members? Are they only intended to bring in money from those already in or do any of these go out to the general public to try to lure them into checking out what it’s all about? Are these events open to the public?
Peggy L,
Yes, the very most-fun flyers are for internal distribution to other clapping clams, as they’d make NO sense to anyone else; and they aren’t even very effective promotions there, judging by the obvious poor stats resulting.