She not only found “truth”…
She got a job.
Oh dear. Wait until she gets her “pay”…
Why is St Hill pitching itself in Spanish?
They are supposed to service the UK. AOSHEU is supposed to service Europe.
Of course, the problem is there aren’t enough Clears being made in the UK (if any) so they have to look elsewhere.
The real state of scientology.
A virtual “briefing”
The difference between this and a reg call?
Absolutely nothing.
Come join us in quarantine!
What could be more fun that flying to LA to spend two weeks locked in a scientology hotel.
Flying to Aruba to spend two weeks in a wog motel?
Based on the works of “bestselling author” L. Ron Hubbard
Why is New Era holding a WISE webinar?
Our last live event before we open…
What does that mean?
Whatever — you do not want to miss the “unique” message from the Tech Sec Fdn.
What no food?
You can bet the turnout will not match the ones when they offer food.
The FP must be slim….
And why is this on two nights?
Bet he has no clue
Just who he is going to bat for.
Or that he is going to end up in some scientology promotional items.
Save the date
16 October — wonder what’s going to happen on 16 October?
They’re not doing an event. A reg call maybe?
Their stats must be out the bottom.
It’s time for a pose
Another weird poster.
An even weirder poster
7am in California
Bet they don’t get many people dialing in at that time to find out how to control their flows…
You would think someone who can control his flows this well would figure out how to do the webinar TWICE or re-air it.
Would love to sit down and have a chat…
Unfortunately, not a single scientologist anywhere, no matter how many times they have done this course, is willing to confront and shatter me.
So do I…
But I didn’t have to pay anything to achieve this exalted state of “knowing what I want” — and as for the certainty I will achieve it, I can say with absolute certainty that I am certain about it. Whether it actually happens is another thing. But it’s easy to say.
I wonder if they realize how lame their “successes” are?
Wow, that’s some weak sauce
They had 7 people total complete an extension course.
And as we know, the org is not even open, so EVERYONE they’ve got is studying on extension courses…
It’s still “launching”
Remember those photos from months ago of the trainees leaving various orgs?
They should be done with their training and back to their orgs by now? Yet, this is still on the launch pad.
The problem is they cannot find any staff to send.
That quote at the end is a doozy. Not ever happened anywhere.
How OT is this? LOL
LRH got him the last drop of petrol. Praise be. Hallelujah. What a guy.
This is like those guys who thank God for getting a strike out or beating the other team in their shuffleboard game.
I got the last roll of toilet paper in the store when there were shortages last year. I know Ron didn’t make that happen for me because I’m an SP. Should I thank Xenu?
Milton Paca says
Hey Mike, I heard something very shocking about L Ron Hubbard. He once confessed to his wife that he murdered their child. Is that true? If so then I would like to know how current Scientologist justify this if they know about it.
I have a included a link to a page that I came across during my research about Scientology. I hope you can access the page by clicking on it.
https://www.elitedaily.com/news/world/facts-about-scientology/987201
Mike Rinder says
Never heard this and don’t know which child this would be… Quintin? He committed suicide.
Milton Paca says
He has more than one child as I just read, maybe it’s one of them. The problem is that Scientologists could write it off as an allegation and an attempt to destroy the image of Scientology as long as there is no actual proof of that. Maybe you guys could look into that case. I also wonder if the police has investigated this case if LRH really killed his child. There should be files or any other documents about it.
Mike Rinder says
There’s no case of him killing one of his children. It’s a silly rumor.
Queen B says
I believe it’s a reference to Alexis , the daughter he kidnapped. He tortured his wife by claiming he killed the child and dismembered her.
Xenos says
Read the link you sent again, it said that he called his wife and told her he killed his child but then called her back to admit he lied and hadnt killed her. In this instance his biggest sin wasnt murder but lying.
Joe Pendleton says
I’d like to publicly thank Ron for the OT win I had the other morning. Had to get to the toilet upon awakening very early, hadn’t even had my coffee yet, and sitting on the throne, I looked over suspiciously at my last very diminished roll of toilet paper . Without being graphic, I’ll just say that I was pretty sure I would need more than what was on that roll. BUT … miracle of miracles …the very last piece of toilet paper did the job!!!!I
Thank you LRH, mankind’s best friend!!!!
Jere Lull says
Is the “Golden Crest” as close to being a Motel 6 as the pictures show? Not that I’d complain too much — other than paying 5-star prices for 2-star accomodations. I’m sure that it’s more comfortable than being trapped on a stinky rust bucket of a boat, less able to escape the dreaded Registrars.
Milton Paca says
Listener question: I am not sure if this was already asked but where does Scientology have their technology from? I am referring to this E-meter and all these other devices.
Jens TINGLEFF says
no IAS event? What a turn-up for the books…
We always had good fun protesting the IAS event. Others even more than I, with the balloon delivery or the early morning suppressive stroll in front of Defendant David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige’s bedroom window.
GL says
If Emmett is so great an “International Speaker” and a supposed Professor of Professor of Physics, Applied Math, and Astronomy from The University of Arizona (which has so far proved rather difficult to verify) then:
a) What happened to the supposed $200 million business and why can’t I find anything about it?
b) His https://emmettosborn.com/ “International Business Speaker” is still under construction since last year.
c) If he is so great, terrific, incredible, etc, why is he…oh, wait, he’s a $camalotofmoneyologist and can’t survive outside the bubble.
I also went to a French zoo and…gasp…and saw xenu. In fact there was four of them.
Milton Paca says
Hey Mike can you give Leah my regards from Germany? I already asked this but I didn’t get an answer. I also want to congratulate her on her two Emmys. I am also a big fan of her and a passionate watcher of the King of Queens.
Mike Rinder says
Sorry I get many, many people asking me to relay things to Leah and I just cannot do so. I’m not her agent, manager or head of her fan club. I hope you understand. If I say yes to you I will be inundated.
Xenos says
Hi.Milton, you can contact Leah yourself and put things in your own words via the following platforms.. Leah uses Facebook, Instagram and also Twitter.
Milton Paca says
Thank you
Chris Shugart says
As I watch the never ending parade of off-the-wall promo, it’s occurred to me that Issue Authority may no longer exist. Or maybe it’s been watered down to permit orgs to release any goofy gimmick that strikes their fancy. Or it’s possible that Issue Authority has just become a rubber-stamp formailty. Any way I look at it, I find it curious that all this weak promo seems to have escaped the iron-fisted purview of Fearless Leader.
Jere Lull says
“Issue Authority” happens if and when the tiny tyrant wakes up and can peel his eyes apart. Flipping a coin is about as disciplined as any process he controls is.
Imaberrated says
Sydney: NSW comes out of lockdown on 11 Oct. That’s what they’re referring to.
Todd Cray says
How is it an “OT win” to grab the last gas? Now what happens to the next oatee who will get there a little later and strike out? Didn’t he just sabotage that oatee’s “win?” Is that other oatee now going to have to attest to the “tech’s” failure?
Now if this guy had multiplied the gas by his oatee powers so that there’s enough for everyone, THAT would have been impressive. Or if he had foregone the last fill-up and stood aside for someone who needed it more than he did, I would take note.
But a story of “I got mine and never mind everyone else…” Not so much!
Aquamarine says
Interesting. When in I knew 2 OEC graduates. One of them was also a Class IV or V auditor, long terms staff member, a KTL & LOC Graduate along with a zillion other courses. I knew him for 20 years and he was an excellent student and quite intelligent. I’m sure he is or would be if permitted, able to apply the OEC data fully to his post.
He is still on staff. Going on 30 years now.
In order to support his for working close to 60 hours a week for which he receives no living wage, he’s always had to have “wog” jobs. Many, many many of them.
I’m wondering: with all this marvelous tech under his belt. why he’s never been able to stick with any of these wog jobs or at least find one that would support him.
I’m wondering why he goes from job to job.
I’m wondering why he frequently has to borrow from and be supported by his (wog) parents despite being well advanced into middle age.
Here he is, an OEC Graduate, his org’s stats in the virtual toilet and he does nothing.
Here he is, an OEC graduate, and – a far, far cry indeed from being able to “completely reverse any downtrending company or country” – he’s always broke.
I’m wondering.
Aquamarine says
Sorry for typos. Answering the phones in the office and typing comments here at the same time.
Bruce Ploetz says
Aqua, part of the scam in the days of the floating Sea Org was that you would go there, do the Flag Executive Briefing Course, go back and “boom” your org.
At the little Stevens Creek Mission in 1974 or so (which had over 100 students on course and was probably bigger than the biggest advanced org of today) we had one of these FEBCs come back. Not sure if it was Kingsley Wimbush or someone else. At graduations they would show the graphs and make it clear that the FEBC was booming the mission!
If they didn’t do this it would make Hubbard a liar so of course they did. For a while. Thus the stupid quote in the flier.
Just part of the mythology of Hubbard. He did this over and over from the beginning. Set up a small group or some training service where the public could get direct training from Hubbard himself! Amazing results! Elizabeth New Jersey, Phoenix, the Old Saint Hill, the Apollo, the Flag Land Base. In every location the hype was as thick as thieves. Until Hubbard overpromised and underdelivered to the point where the village peasants were approaching with pitchforks and lawsuits. Then Hubbard would escape with the cash and start it all over again somewhere else.
I am sure that there were some who could get some wonky training from Hubbard, make their own way in the world afterwards in spite of it and succeed. Hubbard, and now Miscavige, would take credit for it. It’s just a trick to reel in the rubes.
Aquamarine says
I hear you on everything. Makes sense. Back in the day, Hubbard had to be validated as regards the efficacy of the tech. Nowadays, Dwarf’s focus is on fundraising and statuses. He doesn’t care about the tech. Captain Miscavige’s orders are Command Intention and his squirrel policies channel his orders which have very little to do with training auditors in volume or actually auditing people in volume. Ergo, my highly trained erstwhile friend’s training doesn’t count for much any more because his abilities don’t contribute much to Command Intention’s laser like focus and fundraising and status’s. Sad.
Peggy L says
I always enjoy your posts Aquamarine and learn a lot from all the ex scientologists about what makes those still there tick. But I seem to always come back to I wonder why in the world do they stay.
Maybe it’s like a bad marriage, but they stay because it’s familiar, plus trying to leave and divorce would be like the worst divorce ever.
Loosing my Religion says
Peggy. Unfortunately most of them are so imbued with the ‘certainties’ of hubbard and indoctrinated about having certain principles of behavior that it is really difficult (believe me) to think for themselves.
Indeed, having a ‘negative thought’ towards scn or an exec even for something they have observed makes them believe that they have hidden sins that lead them to think badly so they stop doing it or looking.
In the end, almost everyone thinks they are really in the right place – regardless of unpleasant situations, they have learned so much that in the end what happens to them is always their fault.
Peggy L says
Thank you Loosing my Religion. I have to remind myself that I certainly have not always made good decisions (that’s an understatement!).
Loosing my Religion says
Peggy. Right. Nobody can say they haven’t. What is to be understood – in my opinion – is that it is part of the experience that Life has through us. What matters is to be aware of it but you cannot become aware of it without having had the experience.
In other words, if one had already had that kind of experience in the past, one would certainly not have done certain things. In the end, what matters is to focus on the present, not the past.
In scn, on the other hand, ‘faults’ are used as a form of control.
Peggy L says
You made some excellent points Loosing my Religion.
Thank you.
Loosing my Religion says
Grazie Peggy.
Aquamarine says
Thanks, Peggy. Yes, I believe you nailed it.
“Maybe it’s like bad marriage, but they stay because its familiar, plus trying to leave and divorce would be like the worst divorce ever.”
Pretty much sums it up.
“Divorcing” themselves from Scientology effectively makes their lives and ALL their decisions and ALL their goals and purposes “wrong”.
Its a simple decision to leave, but far from easy.
Many ex-Scns HAD the guts to face the truth about themselves and their lives, and leave the cult.
The ones still in, though – the true believers, the still Ins FOR REAL. not the UTRs, well, they just can’t handle the truth, that’s all.
Its too painful. They prefer to keep getting fleeced and exploited, while they point to their certificates and awards and tin trophies, kidding themselves that they’re changing the world, that they’re helping mankind, that they’re doing ANYTHING for ANYONE, least of all themselves. Its very sad. A terrible waste.
Someone, some wise person or philosopher, said that life can only be lived by the courageous, and that cowards spend their lives slowly (or not so slowly) killing themselves. That’s a huge paraphrase but that is the concept.
Peggy L says
Great analogy Aquamarine.
Not to make fun of the ones who are too afraid to take a truthful look at what they are really being conned into believing and supporting but:
Hey Charlie Brown, when are you going to realize that Lucy’s never going to let you kick that football.
PeaceMaker says
Peggy, you’re right that it’s much like an abusive relationship dynamic. Many of the same psychological factors and mechanisms are at work, and especially these days it seems to follow the stereotype that it is mostly women who are suffering, as staffers in Scientology.
Peggy L says
I agree PeaceMaker, and maybe that’s what grabs the attention of no one who was ever in scientology. Many people, women and men, who have at one time found themselves is a situation that mirrors something that is going on in the cult. They can identify with it and the effect it has on a person’s life.
PeaceMaker says
And in spite of all that vaunted ‘tech’ the orgs are failing and shrinking. They’re smaller than many of the missions were 40 years ago; and the missions of course are mostly gone, with the remainder mostly sad shells barely hanging on.
You have to wonder why staff and members, though sadly that’s explainable through human weaknesses like the sunk costs bias or fallacy (“throwing good money after bad,” “doubling down on stupid,” etc.); the demise of a 1950s vintage “space opera” cult (Scientology is not the only one) itself is pretty predictable, like the faltering of Christian Science (which was shrinking by the 1950s, in the face of medical advances like antibiotics and vaccines undermining its faith healiing appeal).
Cindy says
In the pictures of the LA Org and Hotel to stay at, it looks like Scn bought up the Kaiser building and turned it into a hotel. But if no one or not many are coming to LA Org and AOLA (I won’t even mention ASHO), then how do they even pay the light bill at that new hotel across from the orgs where Kaiser used to be? Or does DM take this loss just to pretend that he has any public flying in to do services at AOLA, especially when Flag competes for that same public and usually Flag wins out?
Mike Rinder says
That’s the Fountain building across from AOLA and the building on the corner behind CC. Kaiser is still a hospital. Neither of these buildings are even a fraction of the size of Kaiser.
SassMasterSupreme says
All hail Xenu. He saw what a pain these ppl were and tried to get rid of them. Only to end up making them our problem. *sarcasm*
Scx is always screaming about religious bigotry. But they’re the biggest bigots. Trying to convert everyone in the world to their way of thinking and believing instead of just leaving ppl alone and letting them make their own decisions. And attacking anyone and everyone that doesn’t believe the way they do. Once again the lack of self awareness is baffling.
Jere Lull says
AND … If one should, for some reason, decide that scientology is not for them, the GO, err, oSA, … err … , whatever its name is now, will make their lives living hells.
otherles says
Praise Xenu!
Exbritscino says
Regarding the last “OT” win……..
I simply drove back to my house from Somerset last Sunday and pulled in to my local Tesco filling station.
No queues, filled up and home in 10 minutes…….
The moral of this story is that non OT is a greater power.
grisianfarce says
“OT” should be at cause of matter, energy, space, and time. I saw into the future and switched to an alternative energy vehicle – a bicycle!
Glenn says
How is that woman in Africa who just finished the PTS/SP course now able to confront and handle suppression when Policy states she must disconnect from SPs? Oh, maybe she meant to say “non-confront”?
Loosing my Religion says
Glenn. Precisely. If they encounter an SP they just have to run away.
I think their conception of ‘shatter suppression’ comes at most to think of handling something like someone often rude at work or a friend or relative who says they’ve read bad things about scn, or the greengrocer 1.1 who always gives them fruit a bit poor.
Jere Lull says
I do believe they shatter when confronted by an SP who seems like a pretty good guy.
Loosing my Religion says
Jere I think they won’t. Scn has become broadly and publicly a toxic subject everywhere.
People get infos in one sec from the web. How can they ‘shatter’ all these evidences?
Rather their TRs would be shattering.
They have already learned to simply shut up.
Loosing my Religion says
It is not clear to me if this IAS event will be held or not. It would have been an opportunity to listen to DM after a while and hear how much unprecedented expansion has been made (how many hectoliters of decon7 have been vaporized, how many hand washing guides distributed to the wogs, number of volunteer ministers kicked to do something and then be portrayed in a photo, etc).
But if they don’t, it’s not because of the covid restrictions. No. It’s because they have nothing to say. Nothing. Otherwise rest assured they would have found the way of doing it!
Jere Lull says
Believe me, this IAS event will be just as un-memorable as any in the past. You won’t miss it though your bank accounts may thank you.
Loosing my Religion says
Jere. I was been sarcastic.
Loosing my Religion says
And sure, thank you Lrh, from Target 2 watching over us and petrol! Poor dreamer.
Madeleine from Colombus, wait until 4 weeks of non-existence have passed as a new staff, then you tell me how wonderful it still is the day your stats will be down.
I keep noticing how many Europeans go to AO Africa. Today they look Hungarians. Who knows if they send tours (maybe it’s just phone regging?) with the approval of AO EU and UK, which then remain to slaughter each other for the few clears left on the loose.
Jere Lull says
LmR, any AO will gladly rip off any other’s customers, cash, and crew. It’s an org-eat-org world in that tiny little bubble.
Loosing my Religion says
Right. No new members means the start of the golden age of cannibalism.