10 weeks with Arte Maren…
People PAY for this?
Amount raised – $0
Wait until you find out…
Actually you have to pay more to get that ability because you really cannot confront life until you are done with OT III.
And then OT V.
And then OT VII.
And on and on…
That’s a real stretch…
Many of these people OD’d — First guy on their list, Don Simpson was in scientology for a while. Didn’t save him.
Buried in the reactive mind
Until you discover you just “mocked it up”
Clive Rabies is back
The implication is that they have cracked 9,000 after 30+ years.
Probably not. They just got embarrassed by saying they had only gotten 7600 or 7900….
Our local TV campaign…
I have not seen ANYTHING on TV here?
Who writes a “success story” about “spiritual counseling”
This sounds totally fake.
They’re still at it
Pimping “ideal” states and provinces because they get enough money eventually to purchase a building.
Never mind that even when they get their building, absolutely nothing changes.
Kiddie Corner
Sad
Another ideal org fail
They have 14 people who read a chapter of Hubbard book in a week.
And think this is worth announcing.
Rise Above the Storm
You can take responsibility for everything all at once right now….
This guy is batshit crazy.
Come for the “big lunch” afterwards
The laughter stops when the Regges show up
Actually, they’re there the whole time. So it probably won’t be much fun.
The need for speed?
They have been working on trying to get this done since 2003!!!
What’s a couple more decades matter?
But it does raise an interesting question. If this truly is the only way to Clear the Planet, which is the only way to save mankind, why isn’t Tom Cruise just buying buildings for all the orgs? Couldn’t cost him half the money he already has.
Canada is #1 in the whole world?
So what does this say about the continents that have ten or more “ideal” orgs, and Canada cannot even get the Toronto building that they have OWNED since the 1970’s renovated to be called “ideal”?
Maybe these “ideal” orgs don’t mean anything at all?
Gary Howes?
Of course HE has achieved all HIS goals so he is going to tell you how to do it now.
Any excuse for an “Open House”
Just trying to get some bodies for the regges to prey on.
Why else would the Foundation for a Drug Free World have a scientology org open house?
Kiddie Corner II
And Drug Free World
The “Flag Alliance”
They’re still trying to get money for Puerto Rico?
What else does their “alliance” consist of?
Old Jeff Pomerantz
Out of mothballs to rehash the same old pitch. But they’re “we are all one” is not for ideal orgs, it’s for IAS.
Believe in Battle Creek…
The big question is WHY?
These guys have had a building for 20 years and not been able to renovate it!
One thing for sure. The Midwest may well rock, but not to any scientology tunes.
A Reverse Raffle
Because a regular raffle isn’t off policy enough.
Kimo says
Last time one of those stupid Top Guns posters was shown, I pointed out that they used an F-15 Eagle (Air Force) instead of a Tomcat. This time, someone has made the Eagle not an Eagle, but it still ain’t a Tomcat…
Jere Lull says
Gary Howes’ goal is to Reg YOU right there and then so he can pay for his next status.
Peridot says
Tribute to “Fallen Artists” promo would benefit from a fact checker. Stevie Nicks is very much alive, yet she is included in a list of artists who have “fallen” — passed away. ???
Cre8tivewmn says
Fallen into the hands of psychiatrists.
Jere Lull says
Don’t confuse them with the facts, Peridot. scientology requires “alternate facts” to seem to work.
GL says
“And then OT V. And then OT VII. And on and on…” until you are 70, broke and being chased by debt collectors and riddled with all sorts of medical conditions. Then it’s, “Here’s $50.00. There’s the door. Now GET OUT!”
“Our local TV campaign…
I have not seen ANYTHING on TV here?”
Why would you expect to see anything on the idiot box, they haven’t finished removing the wallets and purses from the sheepbots yet. It will take months and months…
Comedy Night
My first thought was wondering when they started injecting dicks with collagen and then I realised that it was “Dick Colligan” not…
Kiddie Corner II
Every time I see this vileness I just want to vomit!
Aquamarine says
“Register NOW for our epic epilogue to the RIGHTNESS MAKING SENSE OF IT ALL RISE ABOVE THE STORM Trilogy…Sign up NOW”.
If I had the time with nothing better to do I would sign up just to make some sense of what this means…
“…Rise Above the Storm TRILOGY?”
Who WRITES this shit?
Loosing my Religion says
Aqua. The one who wrote that crap is one of my favorites – the undaunted and always positive Michael Lewis!
He is the one in the center of the drawing (but live he is different).
The Trilogy is a series of three topics that it has been proposing for some time in its web seminars, crowded with some bushes carried around by the wind.
I am fascinated by his marketing idea – a mixture of natural incapacity and one who thinks others are mere idiots.
Aquamarine says
Wow. Michael Lewis. THAT Michael Lewis, wrote this. What a fruitcake! Now I know why his kid committed suicide. Totally understandable, and I’m not being sarcastic.
Loosing my Religion says
Aqua this is the guy.
https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Screenshot-518.png
Aquamarine says
Thanks, Loosing.
His face…looking at it makes me sad. He looks…what’s the word…exhausted. Utterly exhausted and played out. Here is this guy who so plainly wants to help; he’s begging people to help him so that he can help them. Its sad. Sorry, I’m not making much sense. I don’t understand my own gut reactions sometimes.
Loosing my Religion says
Aqua. You gave been clear. What you said makes sense to me.
Cindy says
They don’t know if son of Michael Lewis, Johnny Lewis, fell off that roof accidentally or if he jumped as in suicide. He killed the landlord’s cat with his bare hands and feet (kicking it) and then strangled the landlord with his bare hands. He didn’t have drugs or alcohol in his system per the coroner’s report. Michael said he think his bizarre behavior for weeks leading up to this event was because of a head and possible brain injury from a motorcycle accident. He wanted Johnny to get an MRI or Cat Scan and tests for brain damage, but Johnny refused to get it done.
Aquamarine says
However he died, good riddance to the monster.
Cindy says
Aqua, Here is where I may sound bad, but i have to admit that I liked Johnny Lewis immensely. I knew him before all this bad stuff and saw him growing up. He was such an upstat. He did the pro metering course and Class IV auditor course at a very young age and was the youngest one in there on metering drills and was apparently really good at it. He was in commercials and movies and had appearances on famous sit comms and his future as an actor looked bright. He dated Katey Perry, who is a big deal in the acting world too. He was nice and funny and smart etc.
I am inclined to go along with his father’s assessment that when he had that severe head injury from the motorcycle accident, that is when his behavior did a 180 degree change and he got in fights, all sorts of stuff, was sensitive to light and just wanted to more or less hide in the dark in depression. This came on suddenly after the head injury. But he was stubborn and refused any medical tests to find out. I feel so bad for him. Per his mom, he was disaffected from the church and probably was UTR for the last several years of his life. That’s good news at least.
Aquamarine says
Cindy,
You don’t sound bad. You sound like someone who knew Johnny Lewis before he turned into a monster.
Now, THAT sounds bad 🙂 REALLY bad.
And yet I’m serious.
Obviously he started out normal, happy, healthy, smart, etc.
Obviously SOMEthing happened.
If not drugs, then a bash on the head, brain damage, whatever. Something triggered him sufficiently for him to totally lose his all of his humanity.
You knew him when he was normal. That IS your reality and its completely valid. His former normality has just as much validity as his subsequent monstrosity.
Have you ever seen an attack dog on the other side of a chain link fence? Snarling and salivating to get its teeth into your neck or to bite your foot off if you come one step closer?
Well, that ravening beast ready to tear you to pieces was assuredly once an adorable puppy in love and in trust with the entire world.
Maybe I knew that puppy back in the day, and now I’m now looking at it, not with fear and loathing, but with sadness at the vicious creature it is now.
I said I’m looking at it without fear but that’s only because there’s a chain link fence protecting me from this ravening creature.
I’m safe, so I can just be sad and remember that it was once was the most loving, lovable, tail-wagging little pup…until…whatever. Until things happened to it. People did things to it. And now its something that the world is better off without.
Ok, people aren’t dogs but you get my point.
Jere Lull says
“Who writes this shit?” Dwarfenführer® or the Amazing Shermanator, fastest thesaurus in the West.
Aquamarine says
Well, it was Michael Lewis and I thought it wasn’t possible that someone’s writing could make my head spin faster than Dwarfenfurer’s sing-song tones speaking Shermanator’s endless sentences used to do.
Cindy Temps says
Aqua, on your above comment and analogy of the mad dog who was once a loving and trusting puppy, that is a good analogy that explains so much of people and dogs. I like your writing, your thinking and your writing. It is for the most part eloquent.
Aquamarine says
Thank you, Cindy.
Bruce Ploetz says
Something is completely whack here. How is it possible that all these guys are giving courses on subjects that are part of the standard Scientology training line-up? Even a multi-week course on “Why Finding”, which has to be the old Data Series from the 70s. What happened to the actual course?
If there were really staff members in the “Religious Technology Center”, tasked with making sure that all Scientology activities were properly licensed and operated, these rogue operations would be shut down with prejudice.
How do they dare offer these courses, where idiots like the Chan Man blather on endlessly about scraps taken out of context from obscure Hubbard lectures? Hasn’t it been decades since all these lectures were made available to the public in toto? Wasn’t everybody supposed to listen to them all already? Are they suggesting that the golden wisdom of Hubbard needs to be interpreted by some shyster to be intelligible or useful? Heresy!
I actually know the answers. Dave Miscavige, Chairman of the Board of the Religious Technology Center, only cares about license issues if they somehow reduce his income. The Chan Man and these other amateurs are simply gateways to get people to sign up for expensive trips to the Flag Land Base and the Freewinds. Dave will get his cut from the courses they do, accommodations and so on. These well-heeled whales will also be ravaged by donations raptors for straight donations that benefit Dave in all kinds of ways, from donations to the IAS to real estate all over the world. Not that much of that goes directly into his pocket, he is too smart to do that. The money just goes to huge offshore funds that he can direct to any purpose he wants.
It’s all about the money, honey, you’re out of luck without the bucks.
So sad to see Jeff Pomerantz after all these years, still shilling for the shills but not going anywhere. The Voice of Scientology. Gone are the days when he could brag about pulling in a million dollars or so doing cold calls after the big IAS event. Should have stayed in General Hospital. At least then he had One Life to Live. (Ancient soap operas that grade B actor Pomerantz played in. In one plot he died in a hospital bed).
Mark says
Why Finding with Maren= Die Grinding
10 weeks of Picking Undigested Corn Out Of Fetid Turds
As Scienbollocky dies and twists in the gusts of Flubbard’s Target Two Ass Gas,Everything in the Cult World Of Gleeful Postulates ROCKS! EXPANDS TO GREATER HEIGHTS! ELIMINATES PSYCHIATRY! PUTS ASSET-RAPING ORDER IN! UNDERWRITES LAWYERS AND P.I.’s! OPENS POTEMKIN PALACES OF PURE, SILENT THETA(who needs bodies, eh?)!
Clueless, Cuckolded, and Conned, we are the Church Of Lyingtology!
Be part of the Bowel Movement…and Spend!
To The Outhouse of Ignominy, and Beyond!
Aquamarine says
10 WEEKS WITH ARTE MAREN…
People PAY for this?
I’m on the floor!
Todd Cray says
“The key is not, ‘What is the Solution?’ The key is, ‘What is the Problem?'” I absolutely agree. However, this uncredited dictum pre-dates Maren as well as elron by several millennia.
“Maybe the problem is ‘thinking’ …instead of looking” Again, I agree. It’s a big problem to “think” that you are a lot wiser and a lot more homo novis than the rest of us homo sap creatures. “Look” at the evidence of how this has worked out for others! And “look” at the plentiful evidence available about the cult that elron built before you “think”, irrationally and full of wishful “thinking”, that partaking will somehow turn out more fortuitously for you!
Glenn says
Arte Maren. That dude was the most useless and unproductive staffer in the Flag GO PR Bureau back in the 70s!!. And today he’s giving lectures and training classes on finding the whys behind problems? And they’ll last for 10 weeks???
Run people! Run!
Aquamarine says
I did the Data Series. Liked that course a lot and did well on it. “Why Finding?” I learned how. Per LRH I know how to find “WHYs” and I also know, per LRH how to do “multiple sit evals” (multiple situation evaluations).
But I don’t believe that Arte Maren does.
The first, the very first thing I realized, once I knew how to find WHYs and do MSE’s was that the Ideal Org Program was utterly wrong, utterly based on a wrong why, and as such utterly doomed to fail, and indeed, was already failing, visibly, before all of our very eyes.
With clarity I saw that the Ideal Org program was “fixing” something that was not at all the problem and and to engage in it would not only be a total waste of time, effort and money which would not help or expand Scientology but would actively harm Scientology and its staff and publics.
And I shared that. Earnestly. Quite earnestly and naively. I wrote up a lot about this, quoting LRH references from the Data Series and other places. And…long, long story short, here I am – LOL!
But here’s my point: Arte Maren, if he actually understands how to do WHY Finding, HAS TO KNOW that the Ideal Org Program is wholly wrong and harmful and downright suppressive to Scientology and Scientologists. So if he knows this data and does and says nothing about it, he’s a suppressive, a sociopath – choose your term.
On the other hand, if he DOESN’T fully understand WHY Finding, then he’s just stupid and should not be holding seminars on it.
Loosing my Religion says
Aqua. Right. Ideal org’s is just one of the wrong why’s. One of the most sensational and destructive was the one that started the ‘golden age of tech’ in ’96. “The blind leading the blind”.
And this would be a why ?! According to hubbard it is not
conclusive. It still leaves the door wide open to the question “And why did this happen?”.
All miscavige’s wrong whys. Now its time to find the Who. HIM!!
Aquamarine says
Oh, He is definitely The Who, with apologies to Roger Daltry & Co.
Real says
Aqua, the Ideal Org program was not done to solve the WHY of orgs not expanding. It was done to solve the problem of too much unused money in the accounts of a Church nonprofit org in the USA while increasing total assets at the same time.
So, it was correctly analyzed and a good program to solve that situation. It was even given a good shore story so the flock would participate in their own fleecing. Quite brilliant.
Mike Rinder says
Second reason was to provide a reason for no OT IX and X. First it had to be all orgs SH size. But none were making it and rumblings of dissent that management was failing. So the Why became ideal orgs and the onus was put onto the public to make it happen so they couldn’t point fingers elsewhere. Genius move.
Real says
Ah! I was around the hear about the St. Hill size target for IX & X but was gone by the time the Ideal Org pgm was swapped for that. Agreed Mike, genius move.
p.s. When the all orgs St Hill size prerequisite for IX & X was announced I then knew it was over as I had enough staff experience to know it was impossible to do with any Org
Aquamarine says
Mike,
“Genius move”. I’ll say!
Back then, though I had NO clue about these situations!
No clue what the actual situations were that the Ideal Org Program had been formulated to handle. All I knew was that it was doomed to severe failure for the purpose of expanding Scientology. And I kept trying to make them SEE that. And they couldn’t. Or wouldn’t.
Its why I left (which took nearly 2 years).
I realized there was something very, seriously wrong. I didn’t know what it was but I knew it was something, and it was serious. And I also knew I couldn’t trust the staff anymore. There was something wrong with THEM – not me – something wrong with THEM for going along with the Ideal Org Program, for believing it had a snowball’s chance in hell of expanding Scientology! They kept saying there was something wrong with ME. But, no. All I was doing was showing them LRH references! There was nothing wrong with me. THEY were the “squirrels”. They couldn’t convince me otherwise but early on I stopped arguing and just made my plans to leave, to go UTR, to quietly withdraw.
Aquamarine says
“It was correctly analyzed and a good program to solve THAT situation” (emphasis mine.)
Exactly, Real! I saw that! I even wrote up that the Ideal Org Program might be handling some OTHER situation (at the time I had no clue what it was or could be, but I wanted to be tactful and include this possibility in my write up.)
Needless to say my write up(s) were not well received.
I had MU’s…needed False Data Stripping…I was being critical so I had overts, withholds…was I reading the internet? As regards this last, no, not at the time! All my write ups and protests (feisty as I frequently am now, back then done with great tact and much ARC if you can believe that) – all that supported my arguments against the Ideal Org Program came from the Data Series – straight, pure LRH, right there in front of them!
I was amazed, I was astounded, that highly trained in LRH tech and admin tech and ethics tech staff could not see what I clearly saw.
They had trained ME for heaven’s sake! Staff members for decades! And I couldn’t make them see it!
It blew my mind. It still does, as from this rant one cas surmise 🙂
Cindy says
Astute comment, Aqua. So what did the church do or say when you wrote up the eval you did on the Ideal org project? The only time I KR’ed a few Flag staff for out tech, and quoted the LRH references they violated, it got me two MAA’s at my doorstep to “handle” me on my KR, as in how dare you quetion and we’ll do a Comm Ev (Kangaroo Court) on you.
Aquamarine says
Hah! Well, it wasn’t an eval strictly speaking. There were emails in which I laid out my reasons for being against the Ideal Org project. THEY kept wanting me to go in and TALK – I kept insisting that ALL such comm be in writing.
Long story short, what did they do, what was their response to quoting LRH about how the Ideal Org Program was doomed to fail?
To paraphrase Ms. Browning: “How am I wrong? Let me count the ways:
* MUs
* Overts
* Witholds
* All of the above
Not one of them would respond on point. They danced around the references or else flat out refused to answer me at all.
Cindy says
Typical They can’t talk directly on the LRH references they violated because now it is not KSW and not what LRH wrote or said. It is all about what diminutive Davey says and HIS “Command Intention.” How they go along with this is beyond me.
Jere Lull says
They can’t talk about the LRH policies they violated because Davey cancelled or revised them all.
Cindy says
Jere, wow, the evil goes deep.
PeaceMaker says
Jere, LRH was always cancelling or revising his own policies (and “tech”), so I’d say DM is just following in his footsteps.
I know that Hubbard dictated that his was successor supposed to keep a cult past its prime going, without resorting to the tricks of constantantly going back on his own pronouncements, and introducing new “tech”, that “source” himself had always used to keep it going even in its heyday. But what did you expect DM to do, really?
Milton Paca says
Hey Mike I got something for you and Leah to see:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Sheridan
It refers to your most recent podcast guest Julian Wain and what he talked about. It is about the Federal correctional institition which is a part of the delphian school. I would like to know if you guys could explain for all the listeners what that is about if you have the time to do so maybe in a seperate podcast episode, because it wasn’t mentioned in the last episode.
I am looking forward to your reply.
Mike Rinder says
the Federal Correction Institute has nothing to do with Delphi. I have no idea why you would think they are connected just because there are near the same town?
Alcatraz is in San Francisco but has nothing to do with the org there…
Milton Paca says
Ok I am sorry, because when I researched something about the delphian school I came across the correction institute. Now that you pointed it out I read that the correction institute is in the same area. Therefore I thought that they are connected. My bad
Gus Cox says
Wayyy back when (the 1980s) the Feds were looking to buy the Delphian campus in Sheridan for their prison. It even made the local paper (the Sheridan Sun). Obviously that did not happen and they found a site elsewhere in town. That’s really the only connection between the two.
Jere Lull says
Is Clive the Delta variant of Rabies?
Aquamarine says
Cute, Jere 🙂
Real says
Canada #1?? Canada used to be smaller than just LA Class IV Org back in the day. That must mean that Scamology is actually dead and what we now see is the corpse starting to fall down unmoving.
Zee Moo says
I wonder if Stevie Nicks knows that her name is being used to trash psychiatry?
Cue the O’Jays Money and then Backstabers. In the $cieno world it is all about the Benjamins. The ‘raffle’ will raise 30k and 2k will be the prize. How much ‘commission’ will sucked out too? All that fundraising is about commission money and Miscaviges Scotch fund.
A 10 year old on the Survival Run Down??? That is truly disgusting.
ISNOINews says
O/T. Pretrial Conference / Trial Setting in criminal case against Scientology Youth for Human Rights Award Winner Nation of Islam Brother Rizza Islam (aka Ronnie Steven Islam) continued to 12/17/21.
https://exscn2.net/threads/pretrial-conference-trial-setting-in-criminal-case-against-scientology-youth-for-human-rights-award-winner-rizza-islam-continued-to-12-17-21.4146/
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Dotey OT says
Mike, I know this weekly funnies has to be a bit of a pest to put together, but it is so worth it. So much posted here, it all seems sort of “status quo” for the usual goings on. But alas, I’m always so saddened by the young smiling face that’s been activated into service for the Scam.
My favorite though is Mr./Ms. Twilight Grohn bringing up the bottom of the study list. I love the name, the old hippie in me emerges yet again.
bixntram says
What happens if you achieve the state of Clear and cognate that you don’t want to write a success story? They wouldn’t yank the diploma back? Would they?
Aquamarine says
Simple. Won’t write a Success Story? You ain’t Clear, pal!
You won’t be allowed to (what they call in Scientology) attest.
The very fact of your refusal to write a Success Story is a sufficient “indicator” to having not experienced the EP (End Phenomena) of the auditing, meaning you are fer sher NOT Clear.
FYI, the above applies to ANY auditing action or course of study in Scientology.
You’ve heard of , “No tickee no washee”?
Well, in the cult, no Success Story, no Attesttee”. (Sorry, no stereotypal racial slur to Asians intended, I swear.)
bixntram says
““No tickee no washee”?” It probably means you don’t get the damn diploma until you parrot the expected.
Aquamarine says
Pretty much. You have to demonstrate on the meter and with other indicators – facial expression, voice tone, other body language AND last but not least your total enthusiasm for writing a Success Story – that you have achieved the EP of the course, or auditing action or whatever or else you’re not counted as having completed it.
otherles says
A fool and their money is easy to separate.
ISNOINews says
Church of Scientology National Affairs Office joins letter urging officials to locate the 2,763 Yezidi women and children who have been victims of forced or involuntary disappearances and have been missing for seven years.
Free Yazidi: Letter to Officials – Missing Yezidi Women & Children
https://www.freeyezidi.org/blog/letter-to-officials-missing-yezidi-women-children/
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Jere Lull says
Hey! What about the Eastern Europeans and Russians trafficked to the US, their passports confiscated while they work 120-hours weekly for pennies per hour?
Doug Sprinkle says
I’m curious about the clear cognition that they make up the reactive mind. When they have this realization does it mean the events they recalled during auditing such as the mother trying to abort them or the spaceship fight they were involved in 30 million years ago never happened in the first place?
Real says
Doug, with or without the “cognition” it never happened in the first place… So I guess the answer is, yes.
Doug Sprinkle says
Yes I’m aware it never really happened. But I was just curious what their mindset is, if they are now convinced themselves that it no longer happened. If to them the realization that I mock of the bank means all those so-called memories never happened.
Real says
OH! No, they all think it happened and that they mocked up the bank trillions of years ago (and it recorded the events) and that Hubard freed them from their own illusion.
Now if you really want to F with one of them find one that has had a recent surgery where they were put under. Ask them to recount exactly what happened while unconscious as Hubbard says they should because they no longer have a reactive mind and all memories should be filed in the analytical mind (conscious mind).
Doug Sprinkle says
You have to admit that’s a rather brilliant scam he came up with.
Real says
Oh yes Doug. Hubbard was a pretty smart guy. Smart enough to fool a lot of people out of a lot of money and labor.
Jere Lull says
No, it never happened; it was all mocked up.
Aquamarine says
Well, thanks, jere. That saves me a lot of money talking about things that never happened 🙂
Geoff Levin says
Mike, great array of exciting events and promotions this week. The one that got me is the 10 year old on the SRD. That is a brainwashing course beyond brainwashing courses. That’s criminal. Child abuse.
Loosing my Religion says
Hey! Look who’s here – Michael Lewis!
What happens in the world of Mankind when two people quarrel?
He should ask this question to David.
Among those he has beaten himself or made others do it for him, or all those abused, there is no better person to ask.
But pay attention to how you ask him or else he will beat you too and your chatter about how to resolve all mankind quarrels will be of little use.
Jere Lull says
LmR, We CAN’T ask Davey-Boy about what happens in the “world of Men”. He Lives in his own bubble within the bubble of scientology, has no contact with any real world.
Loosing my Religion says
Jere. Oops…Right!
Hidden somewhere and nowhere to be found. After all, according to him and those around him, he is the most important person in the world (but now I’m not kidding, they really think so).
Mark Kamran says
Cults are product of obsession and the followers are the victim.
No need to define the role of supreme leader(s).
Reality has no relationship with obsession they are inversely proportional.
One goes up.the other goes down.
It’s just a matter of time when the obsession loses its momentum.
The time when followers realizes themselves as survivors of Stockholm syndrome.
Cindy says
I won’t make any evaluations or judgements here. BUT back when I was in Scn I bought the idea from the PTS/ SP course that the people around an SP are failing, sick, not doing well in life and that this is one way to spot an SP in the midst and in the mist. Well by Scn’s own references and courses, look at Michael Lewis, he of the bad rug on his head: His wife, an OT, and his son, are both dead before the normal ages when people die of natural causes.
Loosing my Religion says
Cindy. Sure, I understand what you mean. I was not aware of his family background.
Hubbard has been able – always accusing others – of diverting attention from the fact that the cult HAS a purely fascist and totalitarian nature. So it is safe to conclude that it is naturally suppressive.
As you well know, the results can be seen among family tragedies, various kinds of abuse, physical and psychological violence, deaths, economic failures and loads of lies and betrayals.
Michael Lewis is one of the many fanatics in there (scn produces tons of them) who think they must necessarily ‘help’ or save the poor idiots out there – practically bewildered – and bring them the good news that there is a solution.
It’s funny, but he doesn’t know to be contributing to suppressive acts. The jokes that life can reserve.
Cindy says
Yes you’re right that Michael is contributing to the suppressive acts by supporting this fascist, David Miscavage. And if you go looking for “the suppressive person on my lines”, the one place the kool ade drinkers are not willing to look is at David Miscavage. Their attitude is, ‘ours is not to question why, ours is just to do or die.’ Or also, “he must have a good reason that he is doing this. It’s just unknown to us at this time.”
Loosing my Religion says
Quite right Cindy.
In fact this shows how much in scn one really think with his head.
Reading your comment, the three monkeys came to mind as a comparison – one does not look, one does not listen and the other is silent.
Cindy Temps says
Exactly. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
Sparkay says
Mike, Speaking of Portland, any news on Ryan Prescott ?
Mike Rinder says
Not heard a peep from him in a while
Loosing my Religion says
Sparkay. He stopped tweeting for quite some time.
In his last video he is sitting in a room and he looks like someone who has crossed a threshold from which there is no return.
Stefan says
Birgitta “Gustaffsson” at the Malmoe “Ideal” Org…
That surname is NEVER spelled with 2 f´s!!
It´s like spellling Rinder as Rinnder I guess.
Once 40 yrs ago at the Stockholm Org there was a Birgitta Gustavsson (or Gustafsson)
We tried to have a business together–it ended up with a weird ARC-X between us.
I guess I pulled this in:-)
Jere Lull says
Stefan:
Look at it this way: Birgitta missed a good deal. Which of you is is in the better position all these years later? I don’t know about you, but I’m retired and doing only what I want, WHEN I want; like watching what’s left of scientology slowly dry up and blow away like the Fall colors.
NO MORE STAT PUSHES each Thursday! woke up at 11 AM today, just because I felt like it then.