Kiddie Corner
Unleash your OT Abilities
If all it takes is a webinar, why bother paying for anything?
Those Canadians are the experts…
The Continental Org, Toronto, has been languishing for 20 years undone and they already had a building!
Listen to “Paul”
But why?
Someone started!
It used to be they celebrated someone finishing something….
OT 1 is some OT shit…
As long as you have no idea what it entails.
Otherwise you know it’s kind of like ARC Straightwire.
Really?
What Ideal Universe are they referring to?
Make a flow to Manchester
Deciphered: give us money
This guy sure looks like an expert. He’s OT V. So he knows everything….
Epic Proportions
Never heard that before. It’s sure to be monumental.
They’ve got a lot of orgs still to go after 20 years.
Just a sad waste of lives
Confront and shatter!
But not allowed near any SPs. They will cave her in in seconds.
The best success story they have?
Any excuse to try to get some bodies in the shop…
Litter the parking lot campaign
Yeah, but that’s not happening
Unite the White
Serving a continent with 1.2 billion people, with less than 5 million white, the non-whites are seriously underrepresented here
WriteReade says
Does Scn have a retirement plan for people who age out, meaning, unable to fulfill their duties because they have diminished physical capacity?
GL says
I think they “retire” them out the front with a few dollars and then shut the door.
WriteReade says
That’s scary, out on the streets with five bucks in your pocket and no backup resources. “Thanks for your lifetime of service. Don’t let the door hit you on your way out.”
Aquamarine says
Scientology’s retirement plan for Sea Org members too old and/or infirm to work is to offload them. No matter how long they served or how hard they worked or how useful they WERE, once they can for whatever reason no longer work, they are let go, even if they still WANT to be there, doing SOMEthing – perhaps not what they used to do, but something. The cult decides who is “still useful ” and who isn’t; ditto at what point in time the former becomes the latter. Those Sea Org members let go for health and/or age reasons may possibly be given $500 when sent away. (Of this last I’m not sure.) In Scientology’s Sea Org, getting rid of members who are no longer useful due to health reasons has a name; it is called “Fitness Boarding”.
WriteReade says
Thank you for the information.
Phillip says
Regarding the Dr Fallon/Birmingham presentation.
– 1st Bullet Point – What is the First Step you must take to create demand for you, your product or service?
Does no one sitting there listening think to themselves – “If he’s right, why isn’t the Org doing these things? Wouldn’t this help bring in people here? Something seems off.”
ExScnStaff says
That claim that we use 10% of our potential is, I would guess, based on the myth that we only use 10% of our brain. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth – it’s never been true anyway and is attributed all over the place to various people. Given it was found in the foreword to a Dale Carnegie book in the mid-30s, I’d place high odds it was just the sort of thing LRH would have read and then stated as his own observed fact.)
Of course, the funny part of the shift to “potential” is that with the idea of being a thetan rather than a body, how would anyone have any sort of means to measure what 100% potential was or even what percentage of potential a person was using? It’s one of those wacky Scn things of mix-and-matching physical stuff and “spiritual” stuff.
Separately, South Africa is a perfect representation of who can afford to pay for “the Bridge”, as well as LRHs deeply rooted racist beliefs that the black African is “the one impossible person to train in the entire world — he is probably impossible by any human standard.” How many black Class V auditors can we guess they have?
PeaceMaker says
Perhaps Black Africans readily recognize Hubbard’s fraud for the nonsense it is, coming from a different cultural background. Scientology is very intellectual and westernized, and in fact so specific to a particular mid-century Anglo-European popular environment that it only ever made much headway in certain urban areas, and now even contemporary westerners widely recognize it as a sham.
Scientology also hasn’t done well in India, where a long tradition of fraudulent “Godmen” gurus and their supposed powers and miracles has left the population deeply suspicious of such figures from what I understand, even though a not insignificant number of people still fall for them. Also, Hubbard’s “work” probably doesn’t seem like anything special in a culture where meditation and yoga (which to them is much more a mind-body practice) are deeply ingrained.
I don’t intend to implying anything here about cultures somehow being superior or inferior, more advanced or more primitive, just note that differing cultural and social conditions affect views of Scientology, and its uptake. Plus of course there’s the economic factor, which has also limited its appeal and participation to even more specific demographics.
Free Minds, Free Hearts says
Wait, I am not even a football fan, but I know that pre-game activities for the Super Bowl are eating and drinking, not an LRH lecture! Flunk. Chicago Org needs to start over.
Anonymous says
I first read “hatting seminar” as “hating seminar.”
Loosing my Religion says
I just learned that a new scn ad will be shown at the super bowl.
They are all excited in the bubble because it will reach, according to them, 100 million people at one shot. Wow, who knows what effect!
grisianfarce says
Same effect as last year and the year before that AND the year before that.
Kelley H says
I understand that it is a waste of time and money to try to sue Scientology as an individual, but why can’t a large group of ex scientologists band together and sue in a large suit for kidnapping, abuse, stalking, harassment, libel, etc?
Mike Rinder says
That is a class action or mass action lawsuit and there are very specific requirements that make either sort of case unlikely in these circumstances.
Zee Moo says
I still see a lot of preaching by internet, don’t these clowns know that the planetary bull bait is over? It is nearly impossible to get the big bucks over a Zoom call. I do hope that everyone keeps away, in droves.
SL1978 says
I drove by the Toronto org last month while visiting – decrepit. Surrounded by 3 condos all around it. It has been empty for years. Surely the mice/rats are multiplying in there. I recall the 5th floor being used for offices but one door specifically had berthings with sliding doors so it was not totally obvious it was a berthing. Ah memories.
grisianfarce says
After the outstanding success of “United For …”, the money grab wheeze has come to the UK. Chuck your cash into this big multi-purpose pot so you have even less visibility of what it will be spent on.
I Yawnalot says
Goodness me, Shane Brockdorff is still kicking around, and he’s a special speaker now!
Sad, but he’s the perfect example of the term “brainwashed.” Scientology is all he’s every known and apparently all he can ever do.
He’s seen it shrink to oblivion since the 80s, lost many, if not all his friends and holds the party line despite all the evidence something is seriously wrong with Scientology and the way it treats people.
I knew the guy once and he’s one of the better brown noses I’ve ever seen, but even a battered veteran cringes at the prospect of what sort of retirement plan Shane has in place when his body begins failing – such is the life and the future prospects of the dedicated Scientologist.
Scooter says
I flew to FSO with Shane from Sydney in 87. He’d come out of the RPF a few years earlier as a teenager. He’d been subjected to the Running Program then after his mum had left the Kult and joined “the squirrels”. He was a shattered guy who didn’t dare speak up in any way and just did what he was told – top auditor at AOSH ANZO for several years prior to us flying because he just did nothing but work for his masters. Nice guy but broken inside from his experiences in the RPF as a teenager.
Scooter says
Shane wouldn’t have been more than 15 at the time he was sent to California to be tortured like that. Imagine being told your mom had abandoned you to join the Devil’s army (she had been in the SO at the time with him) and you get ripped off from any support network, sent across the world to be made run around a pole for months because you’re just a teenager who’s lost his only family member. He’d could only brag about how many pairs of shoes he wore out at the time. Poor broken sod.
Mike Laws says
Scooter, I remember Shane well, we were kids together in FOLO ANZO. You are right, I remember him fondly as a really nice guy, but I think we were all goofy kids back then. teenagers playing the game of saving the world and all humanity when we were unlikely to have been able to free ourselves from a wet paper bag. Hope all is good with you and the family in the great land of OZ.
Mike Rinder says
Mike Laws in the house! What a pleasant surprise.
Mike Laws says
LOL, Mike, Even the finest hotels can have some rats and roaches! Haven’t been saying much lately, trying to navigate the craziness with our team members as well as all the rest of the crazy last 6 years.
Hope you and yours are doing as well, facebook seems to indicate so.
Scooter says
Hi Mike and long time no chat. All’s good here and hope it is for you and yours.
Yeah those were days when the combined Sydney org staff were over 200. Doubt there’s that many staff and SO combined now with CLO crew and AOSH ANZO. Shane was so reprogrammed from his RPF time I doubt he’d keep any sanity if he left the Kult now. Sad to see.
Mike Laws says
I hear you Scooter, and the reality that people of the age he must be right now with no social safety net, having paid nothing into the system, almost inevitable age related medical situations, have an even tougher road. Feeling more and more fortunate that I left that world young enough to have been able to catch up.
Maria McCartan says
Dear “Paul from Belfast” – I know what’s wrong with you too……….your in a cult mate!
I realise we don’t exactly have the best track record when it comes to respect for religious freedom over here but my god………scientology………really?
safetyguy says
I truly wonder what percentage of people that take the first personality thing or take on class actually get sucked into this for life? I can understand how if you are subjected to this as a child it can become ingrained into your mind and you believe it is what it says it is but and adult?
bixntram says
My brother started taking the personality test at (I believe) the Pasadena Org. The evil vibe of the place got to him, despite the hottie who was trying to pull him in, so he got up and left. Apparently my mom raised no fool (use of singular is not a typo).
Mark Kamran says
Cults have revolving door, looking for people with fear and guilty conscious.
Fear is precursor to guilty consciousness.
This is what led one to handover his or her control to other.
Cult exists as long as they control followers in pyramidal hierarchy.
Their appearance to ordinary people,ranging from self help to philanthropy to philosophical to advocacy groups .
But good thing is that, they have expiry date . They are the by product of that era ,like the Cold War period.
Once the ideology given birth to that era is gone , they are “no longer required” by THEM (the primary beneficiary) and start their journey towards extinction.
Average age of Cult is 50 years, if they do not go on isolation for metamorphical transformation , then they got extinct .
Briget says
Interesting, safteyguy. I’d like to see a breakdown of how many who were raised in Scientology are still there vs. how many who have left came in as adults. I’d be willing to bet that those who were indoctrinated as children are the most caught. Also more scared because – maybe what they’ve been told about life out here is true? If they leave, what will they do? How will they live?
Breaks my heart.
Glenn says
You nailed it Mike. Make a flow to Manchester is just gimme your money.
Dr Richard Fallon is actually just a doctor of Marketing. Oh wait? Of course this fits PERFECTLY into a cult event doesn’t it.
otherles says
I’m amazed that anyone believes the nonsense. The spaceship looks a lot like a Shadow ship from the series Babylon Five
ExScnStafff says
Well, that’s not on Scn. That’s how the Guardians of the Galaxy ship looks in silhouette. (I don’t disagree, other than the B5 ones had longer spindly ‘arms’.)
I am curious how Marvel would feel about Scn using their image in advertising. Somehow I suspect that wouldn’t go over well.