Programming Note: Amy and Mike Easter special is coming tonight on my YouTube channel at 7:30pm EDT. We will be talking about whether scientology is compatible with Christianity. Seems appropriate to cover this topic on the eve of Good Friday.
Top Headliners for this…
Bet there will be more regges there than artists.
Bay Area Cowboys?
Cowboys? Bay Area?
Like Midnight Cowboy maybe?
Missions are not supposed to make Clears…
Hubbard went absolutely borneo when he heard this was happening back in the early 80’s. That is what ORGS are for. It was one of the things that prompted the Mission Holders massacre…
Seriously Bro?
They are promoting the leadership and guidance of his “teacher” Louis Farrakhan in a promo piece for scientology staff?
Wow…
And another one….
And another…
And another…
Chicago org is going to be the first Nation of Islam ideal mosque?
Engineer?
Not sure why this is included?
But here is one engineer on earth that is being completely wasted.
Out of left field…
Haven’t seen anything like this at Flag for years. Everything is Super Power, Running Pgm, L’s, OT VII, Flag Only Rundowns. You know, the revenue generators.
Out of mothballs…
We used to see her routinely when the Valley “ideal org” fundraising was in full swing. Then NOTHING. Now she is at CC at graduation? Wonder if she is doing amends or lower conditions?
Now, if they were really on the ball…
This would be on YouTube an d everyone could ask questions.
Can you imagine?
Truth, justice and the “ideal way”
Just laughable.
He became his “true self”
But he isn’t Clear after completing Dianetics.
Oh yeah, scientology loves Easter
When the R6 implant hung on the cross
More Easter bs…
Mark says
There’s a sort of whack synchroncity in members of one racist space opera cult joining another racist space opera cult(yes, NOI has space opera, too). Hubbard and Farrakhan are twin turds from different…intergalactic sphincters…
And scientology co-opting christian holidays…Well, hell, anything goes when it comes to making a buck for the most ethical group on the planet with the ONLY tech that can save the universe, right?
grisianfarce says
Do NOI observe Ramadan? Are PCs still auditable if they haven’t eaten all day?
Yawn says
Never let standard tech get in way of making money. Q 0.0
Koos Nolst Trenité says
L. Ron Hubbard carefully HIDES how Perception, Awareness, and Memory work.
All the wonderful promises and statements of L. Ron Hubbard
about perception, awareness, and memory increase, and the wonders of the E-Meter,
do leave out – by his design, deliberately, for his nefarious purposes – the understanding of how Perception, Awareness, and Memory actually function,
the PURPOSE of Hubbard being in this:
to use the DENIAL of that basic understanding,
for the indeed very effective domination, control and enslavement, of those who were pulled in
– pulled in by their own, genuine desire to increase their own and others’ ACTUAL Perception, Awareness, and Memory, and agreeing to use electronic measurements to monitor such increases.
If or when you have found out, that Hubbard’s intention is to control, dominate, distort, and LIMIT your and anyone’s True Perception, Awareness, and Memory, then this may be readily seen.
Ask any Scientologist (defining themselves as ‘accepting “Truth about Life” from Hubbard, and believing he is not lying about his goals,” ask any Scientologist)
how Perception, Awareness, and Memory actually function: They can’t!
Let alone, how the E-Meter functions.
At best, you get some vague and circular logic, “to blunt understanding, and to cut off curiosity” – a.k.a. ‘Scientology Word Clearing.’
Wishing you a TRUE increase of your Perception, Awareness, and Memory – also of the soul and utterly despicable nature of L. Ron Hubbard.
To assist you, I recommend listening to the 1st Piano Concerto of Bach (BWV 1052).
Koos Nolst Trenité
LoosingMyReligion says
Anyone who has been in scn for a long time knows very well that it is all and always just the usual empty chatter.
People with fake smiles as if everything is really great, tired promises that keep being repeated, impressive OT successes (but they can’t repeat it a second time), gross lies about how much scn is expanding and unbelivable tons of demands for lrh tech they are getting every day from all over the world.
In the end by dint of saying all these bullshit (and they know they do) they really believe it. Actually, intimately “they’re postulating” it!
This tells how deep the delusion and indoctrination they are in can be.
LoosingMyReligion says
Chicago org, an unobtainable DM, NOI? At this point they should also get a sudden visit from Sergeant Hank Voight and his team to figure out what the hell they’re really trying to do. Take the ED and tell him “Come, now let’s go for a ride.” Jason Beghe would play this part perfectly.
PeaceMaker says
I saw something about NOI members in Chicago making a concerted effort to have a whole cadre of them on staff, maybe even specifically a dozen or more. Several seem to be very dedicated to Scientology.
GL says
“Popular band 3 Feet Behind”. Really? I can find absolutely no mention of them even using $camatology as part of the search criteria.
And just think that Belleair Bob C. was only 20 when he started on his loonngg bank account emptying journey towards the day, 50 odd years later, when he could have a photo taken of himself (and a smarmy kid) wearing his silver electroplated tin wrist band. Here’s to another 50 years of many more emptied bank accounts and credit cards as he works his way to OT1.
The Moose says
“3 Feet Behind”, a reference to exteriorization?
Catherine says
https://insolitorecords.bandcamp.com/album/three-feet-behind-glass-instant-classic
Obviously you didn’t Google quite enough.
GL says
Nope, it ain’t them. The Slugfuckers (can you really see $camology allowing a group with a name like that?) were a fairly short lived Aussie group back in the late 70’s into the 80’s..
So it still means that the $camaolotofmoneyology 3 Feet Behind is a creature that can only survive within the shrinking bubble.
Aquamarine says
Along with cutesy pictures of little kids eating with food smeared all over their faces, and photos of people with their tongues hanging out, there is another type of photo that for some reason I find annoying, and that would be photos wherein someone is pointing at someone else or each other.
Allow me acknowledge that, on the 1 to 100 list of life’s importances, along with one more thing I’ve just thought which is the ridiculous gowns Trish Duggan wears to Int Events, what I’ve itemized above individually and together rate a minus 50 at best, so please accept my sincere thanks for humoring me by reading this.
Yawn says
Folded arms and hands in pockets can be very much a sign of disrespect or arrogance in many scenarios too.
Aquamarine says
Yes, and folded arms is the cult’s go-to stance for staff and SO recruitment photos. Folded arms and the “fierce, dedicated glare”. Such bullshit.
Chris Shugart says
They’re talking about Hawaiian cowboys, Mike. (Though it helps to be Hawaiian, at least in part to know this.) They have their own culture, and music to go along with it. And I’m proud to consider myself among them.
“Hawaiian Cowboy” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxgmVWxV24M
Hang loose, bradda.
Dotey OT says
NOI as staff members. My experience being in an org with NOI staff was that they do not stay on staff until the end of their contract. For whatever reason, they do not stick around. Maybe others have a different experience.
Angry Gay Pope says
Could someone help me w/my protesting and give me a list of ALL the things that COB is doing that LRH said were VERBOTEN?
I’ll start:
Closing missions
Making clears at missions
Spending on the bldg not the service
No St. hill special brief …
I can mention these to Scis when I see them
Fred G. Haseney says
AGP,
Combining two orgs–ASHO Day and ASHO Foundation–into one org.
That may be the case for L.A. Org.
Alcoboy says
Here’s one for you:
Locating orgs in areas with minimal foot traffic.
CC Nashville is a prime example.
Aquamarine says
@AGP,
Moonripping. Recruiting Class V org staff to leave their current org despite unfinished contracts to go on staff at another org.
Fundraising instead of selling Scientology auditing.
Not training auditors.
Telling new public who’ve just walked in and asked a question to “Get the fuck out and don’t come back”. That should be covered
Aquamarine says
…by LRH policy somewhere 🙂
Alcoboy says
I don’t recall LRH using the word ‘fuck’ in any of his PLs or Bulletins but telling someone to get the fuck out after asking an innocent question about your favorite midget and mine shows a lack of training in Handling Tech. You only disconnect (get the fuck out) after the individual will not be handled.
Aquamarine says
Well of course I was just trying to be funny, but yes exactly right, telling someone to get the fuck out is a disconnect because all else has failed. And even then the expletive would not be necessary or in the least appropriate for a church worker. “Leave NOW!” In the right tone would do it.
OR – or…here is my absolute favorite “leave” line and its not original, it comes from Audrey Hepburn’s character’s line in the film Roman Holiday. She’s a princess, and although in love with Gregory Peck’s character she returns to the palace after escaping for a day because her duty as a royal compels it; her sense of duty to her country and her parents the king and queen is very strong. So she’s back and people are questioning her and lecturing her and she is in the throes of love pain at having to leave Gregory Peck and dealing with that and totally exasperated at being lectured unnecessarily and says to them “You have my permission to withdraw!” And the way she says it, in a beautifully modulated tone with no raising of the voice but boy does she mean business, and they shrink away from her and scurry out the door 🙂 Perfect!
Alcoboy says
Roman Holiday.
Maybe Scientology should use that as a training film to demonstrate how to disconnect effectively.
Dotey OT says
The objection or problem that I saw back in 2003 as a scn’ist was a violation of the outpoint (hubbards jargon) “Having to have before you can do.” That one must have ideal org building first, before servicing. That seemed to be the most salient violation. I was fully drinking the kool-aid at that time. You may have already stated it as “spending on the bldg…”
PeaceMaker says
AGP, I assume you’re looking for things that would have the most impact on members and staff. Merging orgs, most obviously the Celebrity Centres (sic) that have vanished, may be the most obvious. Letting the mission network collapse seems like another one that clearly shows Scientology is being allowed to shrink, though I’m not sure there is a specific prohibition against those privately owned franchises closing – but most scientologists probably have no idea how bad it’s gotten, so you’d have to make a quick case that there are say only about half a dozen missions left in the US that have the sort of prominent premises many once did.
And I don’t know how you’d frame the heavy spending on buildings, to members who still are getting some services, in a way that a quick sound bit or “elevator speech” would cause them to stop and think. That all the local orgs including the new “ideal” ones are mostly empty, is probably something they would have trouble really confronting; I would assume that even the LA upper level orgs don’t have many customers, so something like asking how the number of people in the orgs now compares to 10 or 20 years ago might give them pause.
I doubt remaining members care if the Clearwater mission in the shadow of Flag is being allowed to make clears, in possible violation of some Hubbard edict after an arcane old dispute. Likewise the status of the onerously long SHSBC may be too much of a sort of technical issue for most to care about these days. Generally I think they may not necessarily be impacted by the same sort of things that now concern those who left decades ago, so getting ideas from those like Dotey OT who left more recently may be key.
Aquamarine says
Its always interesting to read your detailed facts, careful evaluations and opinions, Peacemaker. No kidding, thank you; I always learn something.
Yawn says
Blanket pink sheet type order of auditors world wide on can squeezes, because he got a perceived bad can squeeze at Flag. Put every sup in every org in danger.
Abolished the HGC part of the drug rdn and got sup’s to do it in the academy, so as to make it co-audited = what a miserable thing to do to supervisors! If they weren’t run off the feet anyway. (At least today there aren’t any students, easy to sup hey?)
Regularly rewrote and altered, took off or added items on checksheets.
Also, Miscavige is not a nice person.
LoosingMyReligion says
– Golden age of tech and admin 1, 2 and so on.
– Erasing the int exec structure becoming the one man show
– Taking off from the beggining of all courses KSW 1 and 2 (!)
–
Linear13 says
One thing I have always thought would be a good talking point or a billboard is what Debbie Cook covered in her email. She gives LRH references for each point.
* https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-years-email-from-debbie-cook/
Speaking or showing these points calmly I think would begin to chip away at the cult armor for some people. Or perhaps making a flyer with these LRH HCO PL’s and handing them out or just conveniently leaving them close to the Org. I would leave out anything in ref to Debbie Cook in the flyer and just put all of these HCO PL’s and what is said by LRH and what is being done today.
Angry Gay Pope says
Thanks so much for all the great suggestions!
otherles says
No Easter Egg hunts. Had to do bureaucracy today.
Cousins Are JWs says
I thought that part of the agreement with the IRS for the COS to gain tax exempt status as a religion was that members could not be members of other churches? Last time I checked the celebration of Easter is the most import observation in the Christian calendar. As a practicing Christian I truly resent that the COS co-opts my holiday, what frauds.
Mike Rinder says
You are right. Will cover that in our YouTube episode this evening…
Jens TINGLEFF says
Interesting! I wonder if the NOI counts as a “church” in that context?
Stefan says
OT8 Nancy doesn´t look like she´s cause over her eyeglasses.
Angry Gay Pope says
Worse, her BF committed suicide after he gave all his $ to the Superpower Bldg. Project. He jumped off a bridge and could not fly!
https://www.tmz.com/2010/09/21/nancy-cartwright-bart-simpson-sued-fiance-church-of-scientology-insurance-company/
This left her hundreds of thousands in debts as she was involved in his constr. co finances the Church stole.
And she is still in!
Alcoboy says
Isn’t she still getting rich being the voice of Bart Simpson?
Nancy, if you’re reading this, eat my shorts.
Angry Gay Pope says
She gets $400,000 per episode. And there are hundreds of episodes.
Alcoboy says
So in other words she ain’t hurting for dough.
Aquamarine says
Wasn’t her late boyfriend named Brackett, and wasn’t he related to DM pet and Ot8 Karin Beatty, who in turn is the wife of trust fund baby and long term still in Richard Beatty?
Angry Gay Pope says
Yes see the link in my earlier post.
DOC Boucher says
When is the Chicago “Ideal” Org opening up??
safetyguy says
I don’t even have to watch. scientology and Christianity are not compatible.
Mary Kahn says
What a load.
Have to say, though, that I continue to be astonished about the marriage between Nation of Islam and David Miscavige, I mean … and The Church of Scientology. It’s mind boggling. Of course, if and when the S… hits the fan regarding the NOI, then David Miscavige will find and torture the “Who.”
Looking forward to the meeting on YouTube tonight with you and Amy.